Old vs New: Can a NEW 4-Cylinder Camaro Beat an OLD V8 Corvette in a Drag Race?

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 25. 05. 2023
  • Register today at SalvageReseller.com and start bidding on salvage auto auctions without needing a dealer license. Register for free and use code TFLC20 to save 20%. Go find your salvage car gem now! www.salvagereseller.com/TFLcar
    ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Is a newer Chevy Camaro quicker than an old-school Corvette in a drag race? Tommy and Roman find out!
    ( / tflcar ) Visit our Patreon page to support the TFL team!
    Watch more videos from TFL Studios:
    The Fast Lane Truck ( / tfltruck )
    The Fast Lane Car ( / tflcar )
    TFLoffroad ( / tfloffroad )
    TFLbike (czcams.com/channels/lbike.html )
    TFLnow ( / tflnow )
    TFLclassics ( / tflclassics )
    TFLtalk ( / tfltalk )
    TFL Podcasts:
    TFL Talkin' Cars Podcast ( redcircle.com/shows/tfltalk-c... )
    TFL Talkin' Trucks Podcast ( redcircle.com/shows/tfl-talki... )
    #car #dragrace #chevrolet
  • Auta a dopravní prostředky

Komentáře • 869

  • @TFLcar
    @TFLcar  Před rokem +16

    Register today at SalvageReseller.com and start bidding on salvage auto auctions without needing a dealer license. Register for free and use code TFLC20 to save 20%. Go find your salvage car gem now! www.salvagereseller.com/TFLcar

    • @richardsenkBeachwalker
      @richardsenkBeachwalker Před rokem

      You can actually manually shift a C5 corvette's automatic transmission to make it faster.
      It also helps if the C5 auto has the performance differential. Goes from 2.73 to 3.24 gears

    • @qalba3016
      @qalba3016 Před rokem

      May ask if this is your father and if he used to do a TV like 20 years ago,??
      I’m from Middle East Jordan 🇯🇴, I went to university in USA Texas and I believe I’ve seen him on car show on television, he looks so familiar but I wanted to confirm
      You guys have a great channel we support your channel from Middle East
      Cheers 🥂

    • @brianguse4514
      @brianguse4514 Před 9 měsíci

      Thought this was apose to be a muscle Cara v6 or 4 cylinder isnt the reason they say muscle cars means v8s lol

  • @MongoMotors352
    @MongoMotors352 Před rokem +1180

    A microwave may cook faster than a charcoal grill, but no one wants a microwaved burger.

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  Před rokem +68

      True that but try buying a Chevy Bolt🤔

    • @HerrPoopschitz
      @HerrPoopschitz Před rokem +74

      Nothing like regurgitating a lame comment from the internet.

    • @amazingjason455
      @amazingjason455 Před rokem +26

      @@TFLcar If the same subsidies were available on affordable gas cars, demand might be high too.

    • @justinborysenko3885
      @justinborysenko3885 Před rokem

      @@amazingjason455 Oil production from federal lands and waters provides approximately 24% of total U.S. oil production.

    • @J.B.7.4
      @J.B.7.4 Před rokem +23

      Highly agree. Cars may be getting faster, but they seem to be removing the human/machine synergy that there should be, at least for car guys/gals.

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 Před rokem +246

    The Camaro was exactly as expected. The 8 speed using the turbo's low end torque to get off the line quick, but the Vette's power reels it back in up top even with the ancient 4L60E slushbox of sadness.

    • @deadlybladesmith3093
      @deadlybladesmith3093 Před rokem +40

      Slushbox of sadness 😂. Idk why that was so funny to me

    • @productionswhatever9
      @productionswhatever9 Před rokem

      😂

    • @grindersandgears3445
      @grindersandgears3445 Před rokem +12

      @@deadlybladesmith3093 Old 4 speeds are pretty awful in stock form...I'd say it's an accurate description, lol. When you go that far back, the manuals are usually quicker.

    • @deadlybladesmith3093
      @deadlybladesmith3093 Před rokem +1

      @Grinders and Gears Yeah, I have a 96 LT1 Vette and the transmission is the main thing holding it back from being faster.

    • @HomiesOfMars
      @HomiesOfMars Před rokem +3

      Yea makes me wish they had a manual for the C5 in this race

  • @mannyzx1
    @mannyzx1 Před rokem +180

    I might be a Ford fan, but oh man, I was rooting for the mighty LS1 like a Chevy boy! Love the C5.

    • @samadagoat7769
      @samadagoat7769 Před rokem

      We ford fans and Chevy fans are just competitive brothers .. it’s dodge who we don’t like they the opps they make america look bad selling out to fiat so they aren’t even family anymore

    • @gtasanandreascluckinbell
      @gtasanandreascluckinbell Před rokem +3

      That leaves me wondering, am i a psycho if i like most trucks?

    • @mannyzx1
      @mannyzx1 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@gtasanandreascluckinbell no.

    • @gtasanandreascluckinbell
      @gtasanandreascluckinbell Před 11 měsíci

      @@mannyzx1 good

    • @andrewmarshall1142
      @andrewmarshall1142 Před 9 měsíci +3

      i own a tahoe, a mustang, and a camaro. looking to get an f150 now, if it’s american it’s fine by me 🇺🇸

  • @CrossWindsPat
    @CrossWindsPat Před rokem +53

    C5 is on of the most underrated platforms. Its an absolute unit for a track day monster. Sway bars, bushing, coil overs, pads/fluid, new tires and a nice shifter kit and boom the car is a genuine weapon.

    • @irishuwould5185
      @irishuwould5185 Před rokem +14

      Headers, cam and tune and you’re in the 500 hp range and with the lightweight that’s an absolute monster

    • @FiendishlyDelightedSefto
      @FiendishlyDelightedSefto Před rokem

      @@irishuwould5185 only need 430hp

    • @destruxandexploze2552
      @destruxandexploze2552 Před rokem +3

      C4 is an underrated platform.

    • @ColdVsIce
      @ColdVsIce Před rokem +8

      @@destruxandexploze2552c5 is better

    • @defyyourlogic487
      @defyyourlogic487 Před 9 měsíci

      @@irishuwould5185exactly you’ll be running with fbo 5.0s for 30k otd not sure why you don’t see more of these in the scene.

  • @sierravortec2494
    @sierravortec2494 Před rokem +151

    The Camaro is impressive but my god, that V8 sound and the way it just pulls and pulls at the end will never ever get old.

  • @HerrPoopschitz
    @HerrPoopschitz Před rokem +170

    I really enjoy these old vs new drag races.

  • @rnt45t1
    @rnt45t1 Před rokem +17

    Imagine the Hertz rental guy watching this video thinking "I knew they were going to race this Camaro"

  • @lplt
    @lplt Před rokem +21

    its wild that a "base car" has 275 hp these days

  • @chrisodell6107
    @chrisodell6107 Před rokem +21

    The problem here is using boosted cars at this elevation, the Camaro would have compensated to a degree so while the corvette lost 15%~ the camaro might have lost no more than 5% which makes these races way closer than it should be lmao

  • @truthserum5310
    @truthserum5310 Před rokem +31

    I own 2 C5 Corvettes. A 2002 Vert Auto, and an 04 Z06 (All Z06's are manual) Something is definitely not right with that 4L60E C5. It may partly be the altitude, but my stock 02 C5 Auto runs way faster than 15's in the 1/4 mile.

    • @thehyperspacevault
      @thehyperspacevault Před rokem +14

      The dad launched the C5 horribly . It sounded like he didn't floor until he was way off the line. It should have beat the Camaro easily like it did in the roll race.

    • @leonbachman5345
      @leonbachman5345 Před rokem

      I didn't see the front end lift like my C5 auto or not it shifts at 6 thousand RPM maybe because it only has 51000 miles and nitrous but I have not used it yet that's the way I bought it but long tube headers do help

    • @escaladeEXTon28s
      @escaladeEXTon28s Před 9 měsíci

      14's is hardly way faster

    • @djmlax89
      @djmlax89 Před 9 měsíci +3

      He was asleep on the line for sure. A bone stock C5 should be in the mid 13s, low 14s at the worst.

    • @truthserum5310
      @truthserum5310 Před 9 měsíci

      @@djmlax89 Not at 5,000 feet above sea level. Less dense air at that altitude.

  • @sir.confident
    @sir.confident Před rokem +93

    This was actually a good race. For a 4 cylinder, the new Camaro didn't do half bad. Sure it lost, but that doesn't make it slow. Personally, I would've compared it to a base '69 Camaro RS.

    • @mistersecret88
      @mistersecret88 Před rokem +4

      It's a heavier rag top too

    • @sir.confident
      @sir.confident Před rokem +1

      @Mister Secret Oh, yeah true! That's the only reason it was heavier. If it were a hard top, it would've at least tied with the C5.

    • @BabyGirl-kh5hm
      @BabyGirl-kh5hm Před rokem +2

      There is no 4-cylinder Camaro ever built

    • @BabyGirl-kh5hm
      @BabyGirl-kh5hm Před rokem

      Lmfao 4 celender Camaro

    • @mistersecret88
      @mistersecret88 Před rokem +2

      @BabyGirl-kh5hm my friend had a 550hp 4 cylinder csmaro. Beats a lot of V8s

  • @douglastong3208
    @douglastong3208 Před rokem +9

    Impressive performance for the bolt, but the question is: after a few drag runs, how much range was left on the Bolt? Hopefully, enough to get home.
    I would still want the Corvette no matter what. Let's hear that Bolt rev it's engine at the line again? After a little tuning, I'm sure I'd enjoy driving the old V-8 Corvette much more than a current I-4 Camaro.

  • @theguy4615
    @theguy4615 Před rokem +19

    Fun race! I've owned both of these cars. Both performance bargains for the price.

  • @puppysayshi7848
    @puppysayshi7848 Před rokem +31

    15.4 in a ls1? The vette needs a driver mod.

    • @alexandergreene1728
      @alexandergreene1728 Před rokem +15

      They are a mile above sea level but yes I agree. These autos run 13 seconds or LESS at sea level.

    • @Gchang54
      @Gchang54 Před rokem +6

      It's a auto...

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  Před rokem +19

      It’s a 4 speed automatic with 2.75 gears. There is literally no way to drive it faster. You couldn’t slip the tires up here at elevation if you launched on butter 🤦‍♂️

    • @HerrPoopschitz
      @HerrPoopschitz Před rokem +5

      Thinks an auto will magically go faster w/ a different driver. 🤣

    • @mcmuffin423
      @mcmuffin423 Před rokem +4

      Them 2.75 are slugs.

  • @nsxmatt
    @nsxmatt Před rokem +18

    For $800 more than the 4 banger the V6 is a much better option. Mine ran 13.8 bone stock.

    • @ashes2ashes863
      @ashes2ashes863 Před rokem +1

      The 3.6 gets shit on all the the time but ive had great luck with them.

    • @yeahsure8323
      @yeahsure8323 Před rokem +1

      And my Scat shits on all of you 😂

    • @grindersandgears3445
      @grindersandgears3445 Před rokem +1

      That depends very highly on whether or not you plan to keep it stock, boosted engines are a lot easier to get more power out of. You can take a 3 decade old 4g63 stock turbo car putting out 200 and take it up to 350 for like a grand or 2, 16g, tune and fuel and it's there. Someone asked me about a turbo 4 Mustang or a 6, and I told her to go with the 6 if she didn't care about modding or going fast, simpler and cheaper to run, but a dead end if you want to go faster.

    • @TheFK8Life
      @TheFK8Life Před rokem +3

      It wouldn't run 13s where they are - probably 15s there 😂

    • @nsxmatt
      @nsxmatt Před rokem +3

      @@grindersandgears3445 I'm aware of how turbo engines work. You are not aware that the chevy 2.0 engine is a very unreliable engine tuned once you push the power.

  • @yodaevil
    @yodaevil Před rokem +1

    It’s been about the experience for me. I had a 92 camaro 5.0 that couldn’t get out of its own way, but loved that car! Sounded so good and was fun to throw around. Then had a 3.6 challenger that was so much more fun to drive than my current 5.7 awd charger. The auto stick was way more engaging due to its lower power. The charger I try doing the same things and going way to fast getting out of second. But the rumble of the hemi is so nice. I’d love having that vette for the sound and old school driving, yet would so drive a convertible 4cyl camaro. I can’t weigh in on evs yet as I haven’t driven one.

  • @extremedrivr
    @extremedrivr Před rokem +1

    Sorry but your Dad's right on this one. The C5 is the best performance per dollar car so far.
    And don't underestimate that 4 speed. What hurts the C5 is the Rear Gear Ratio.
    Bump it up to a minimum of 3.45 and then you got something to really write home about.
    The Camaro Z28 and SS of the same year had a 3.45 Rear Gear standard.

  • @thebigokie6.4_392
    @thebigokie6.4_392 Před rokem +1

    When we held up signs saying stop making V6 Camaros we didn't mean make a turbo 4 Camaro! 😐 People don't buy Camaros for reliability and gas mileage. People buy Camaros because they look good their fast and loud.

  • @LevelUpSimRacing
    @LevelUpSimRacing Před rokem +7

    I'm taking the old LS1 vette for sure

  • @stang-rv4pb
    @stang-rv4pb Před rokem +38

    The slowest available Corvette of the time, being a 4 speed auto, with 2.73 gears, and convertible. The NA V8 is also much more effected being 1 mile above sea level, compared to the turbocharged Camaro. The Camaro being an 8 speed auto is also the fastest transmission option for that model year. I think the Vette did pretty good considering.

    • @resistorstudios
      @resistorstudios Před rokem +3

      Yea try doing it in Texas with a 6 speed hardtop vette ....

    • @Emilthehun
      @Emilthehun Před rokem

      The corvette was not a convertible. But the camaro was.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan Před rokem

      2.73 gear? how does anyone manage to do a burnout with that

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl Před rokem +1

      @pontiacGXPfan EASY! You could burn the tires off the car if you wanted. (I had a 98 C5 Targa with 2.73 gears in 1999 when I was stationed in Hawaii). Optional gears were 3.23 if I remember correctly.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan Před rokem

      @@dundonrl the 6-speed Vettes all had the 3.42 axle even with the shorter first second and third gears

  • @jlsgarage872
    @jlsgarage872 Před rokem +5

    Chevy should have put the 2.7 from trucks into the camaro, that would be an insane little ripper

  • @theconfused_fisherman
    @theconfused_fisherman Před rokem +4

    I love those C5 Corvettes in Forza but I immediately swap out the transmission to the racing one just bc that 4 speed is attrocious. I do the same for all the 80's to early 2000's GM cars

    • @bradleylovej
      @bradleylovej Před rokem +1

      Irl all you have to do is put a stall in them. A stock LS1/4l60e with a 3600 rpm stall will be a little faster than the 6-speeds. It flips the script!

  • @taylorsloop4750
    @taylorsloop4750 Před 3 měsíci

    I own a 4cylinder Camaro and it’s a different experience. It pulls beautifully and as a daily it gives you a sports car fast experience that doesn’t destroy your bank account. I’ve seen plenty of comments from people who went from a 4cylinder Camaro to the SS and they actually miss there 4cylinder every now and then when they think about it because of the unique way it accelerates/pulls. It’s its own thing all together. Not meant to be compared to a v8.

  • @twilightmedia8575
    @twilightmedia8575 Před rokem +5

    next time bring the mustang ecoboost, i have heared a lot about ithem i wana see their perfomance. people say they can destroy most perfomance vehcles on the road

  • @chadmiller2224
    @chadmiller2224 Před 9 měsíci +2

    People make fun of the 4 & 6 cylinder Camaro's and Mustangs of today, but thing is they would smoke most cars we thought were fast when I was in high school. Go drive a v6 stang or maro from the 90's and then drive a modern one and you will see why they are impressive to people my age. They would even out perform most of the old muscle cars. But not look or sound as good...

  • @justuscapes
    @justuscapes Před rokem +7

    15.4 in a C5? Sandbagging for content smh

    • @notdreadyet33
      @notdreadyet33 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yes. That's a mid 13 second car at 105mph.

    • @MrJoshDippel
      @MrJoshDippel Před 8 měsíci

      Exactly. Stop playin’.

    • @robertbaker3296
      @robertbaker3296 Před 8 měsíci

      You guys must be deaf. Its at 1 mile above sea level.

  • @joshgessinger4509
    @joshgessinger4509 Před rokem +5

    Still would love to see the 3.6 camaro go against some older cars.
    Idk why GM doesn’t put the new truck 4 cylinder in camaro maybe they sell more.
    Great stuff
    Thank you

    • @joshgessinger4509
      @joshgessinger4509 Před rokem

      @Azu Za’s
      For sure
      Tune it make more boost there getting around 450-500 hp and torque out of that little 2.7.
      Be a great camaro id buy one for sure.
      My wife daily drives our 2018 3.6 RS its a fun car but more torque would make much more fun. To bad were probably never going to see it though. The V8 just doesn’t make sense for a daily driver for us to much to buy and fuel mileage isn’t good enough for us.

  • @taylorsloop4750
    @taylorsloop4750 Před 3 měsíci

    The wholesome father son relationship here is really something. Imagine getting paid to drive amazing cars with your dad.

  • @bryaninnc5511
    @bryaninnc5511 Před rokem +6

    Well, that should help 4-cylinder Camaro sales 😂

  • @e-henne
    @e-henne Před rokem +3

    Love comparisons like this!

  • @VetBodGaming
    @VetBodGaming Před rokem

    I had the bolt EUV as a loaner car and I was quite impressed. It's definitely noticeable that it's throttled from stop but as a daily driver it does everything you want.

  • @NotOnYourLife
    @NotOnYourLife Před rokem +24

    The C5 has the biggest advantage here that doesn't get talked about enough, no car payment compared to the other two. The biggest financial mistake is a new car, it depreciates as soon as you sign the papers.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 Před rokem +1

      Meh so you buy slow depreciators. For example I recently purchased a 2023 XSE V6 Camry. Will it depreciate? Yes! But will I still get 66%of my money back in 4-5 years with average miles driven. Probably.

    • @NotOnYourLife
      @NotOnYourLife Před rokem +8

      @@sammyjammy6647 Perhaps, but a smarter move is to buy the 4-5 year old Camry outright, with no payment and lower insurance and taxes. This is part of the reason I retired at 48 and am financially stronger 12 years after retirement. To each his own but a new car is always a financial mistake.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 Před rokem +6

      @@NotOnYourLife there’s another saying, when you buy used you’re buying someone else’s problem. I like new unless it’s a cheap used Camaro or Mustang that I can knock around. I only owe 9k on the Camry. 3.99% for 48months. I traded in a 2021 RAV4 hybrid that I had for a little over 18 months. I paid 35k for the RAV4 and they gave me 35k when I traded it in. I’m 53. I know what I’m doing sometimes. Just be sensible. I’m not buying $ 100,000 cars. Anyways our time here is short. Enjoy

    • @williamdavis4809
      @williamdavis4809 Před rokem +6

      All this may be true...but few things in life make you feel the same as driving away in a brand new vehicle

    • @handyscenario178
      @handyscenario178 Před rokem +1

      ​@sammyjammy6647 you are but if you have a good head om your shoulders about cars then those problems seem insignificant since they are so small in the first place. Bought a Mercedes with 300k miles and fixed up a couple of things. Runs smooth and cheap insurance. Helping me save money for more expensive newer cars🤷‍♂️

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 Před rokem

    👍 great video. Roman, I like ur metric about performance per $ .Andre, do ya'all factor price in the Off Road Index ? That may change things up a bit.

  • @ezekielmorgan1042
    @ezekielmorgan1042 Před rokem +25

    Hey those 4 banger Camaros are fun to drive when they're a manual. My mom has a 2019 and it's been a blast! Reliable, good fuel economy, zippy, and it still looks cool

    • @ragingbull94mtx
      @ragingbull94mtx Před rokem +6

      Randy Pobst approved. All Camaros are fun (I have a 2020 LT1 6-speed), it's a shame they're discontinuing them.

    • @bigbluezo6
      @bigbluezo6 Před rokem +2

      Agree

    • @deejayimm
      @deejayimm Před rokem

      @@ragingbull94mtx It's the gov that is killing them off.
      They are forcing EV's through threat of financial penalty.

    • @TittieSprinkles
      @TittieSprinkles Před rokem

      The new camaros are ugly asf look Asian eyed 😂

    • @alexcurtis8132
      @alexcurtis8132 Před rokem

      My chick just bought a 2013 Cadi ATS 2.0T with the same engine as the turbo 4 Camaro, and I massively underestimated it on the test drive😂 thing is actually pretty fast lol and you don't have to deal with the stigma of driving a 4cyl muscle car🤷‍♂️😂

  • @kevinferrin5695
    @kevinferrin5695 Před rokem +1

    What a fun father and son activity!

  • @angeloponzo7971
    @angeloponzo7971 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Which exhaust do you have on the c5? I also have one and thinking of upgrading exhaust system

  • @khakiswag
    @khakiswag Před rokem +12

    No need to turn off the A/C even in that old Vette, at full throttle the PCM will disengage the compressor.

    • @skip741x3
      @skip741x3 Před rokem

      same with my old probe gt... it could be that way with almost all cars since.

    • @bradleylovej
      @bradleylovej Před rokem

      I did not know that!

  • @stephenzerfas5307
    @stephenzerfas5307 Před rokem

    I had a Bolt and it was lot of fun, especially around town as it zips quickly and quietly with no drama. Maneuver into any place you want and it is a bargain. I had an 02 Z-28 6M with T-Tops. That was a lot of fun too. The trick with the Camaro was that it was obvious to onlookers like the police if you were being aggressive, around town it was big and not much fun and the manual is not a lot of fun in stop and go traffic. I think there is not a clear cut winner, they are different cars for people looking for different things. The Bolt is a bargain, a lot of fun and fun you can easily enjoy year round anywhere but unlike the other 2 it is not a lot of fun to look at. The Corvette sounds great, looks great but missing the newer technology. The 4cyl Camaro is not fast by Camaro standards but it is convertible which is fun even going slow, looks great and does not break the bank for modern reliability and warranty.

  • @williamdrijver4141
    @williamdrijver4141 Před rokem +2

    Convertible is a lot heavier than the standard coupe Camaro.

    • @ragingbull94mtx
      @ragingbull94mtx Před rokem

      Yes, it's a 275 pound weight difference coupe-to-convertible for the Camaro.

  • @Apoplectic_Spock
    @Apoplectic_Spock Před rokem +1

    Looking forward to Andre's Colorado/Canyon drag video! Still awaiting delivery of my Trail Boss...

  • @g0rt664
    @g0rt664 Před rokem

    That looked like a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing ❤

  • @jordancooper2717
    @jordancooper2717 Před rokem +1

    Old man was asleep for half the pass on the first one

  • @williamabaker12
    @williamabaker12 Před rokem

    Also, I love that Andre made a cameo at the end. He makes TFL for me!

  • @xSiC84
    @xSiC84 Před rokem +1

    My stock 2002 c5 auto runs a 13.6 quartermile at 102 mph in 2nd gear. So for this to run a mid 15 is concerning.

  • @JGSnipes
    @JGSnipes Před rokem +1

    Throw a few mods at the vette and it will keep up with the modern ss trims.

  • @ak3617
    @ak3617 Před 9 měsíci

    I never realized light to light that the C5 would get smoked like that from a newer 4 banger Camaro. Technology is cool

  • @khakiswag
    @khakiswag Před rokem +6

    Corvettes of that era have what GM called Competition Driving Mode. I think you had to press the traction control button two times or press and hold it. Something like that.

    • @Fade2BlackSS
      @Fade2BlackSS Před rokem +4

      I can confirm. I just tried this a few days ago with my 2010 SS. It's basically launch control to help prevent spinning at launch.
      Just double tap the traction off button until you see a messaging saying, "competition mode." An orange light will pop up on the dash too.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Před rokem

      @@Fade2BlackSS I don't think the C5s had that, and I'm pretty sure Roman had TC off and was brake torquing the Vette off the line. A 4L60E is not a performance transmission haha.

    • @Fade2BlackSS
      @Fade2BlackSS Před rokem

      ​@@mrvwbug4423 Ah, I see. I'm not too familiar with Corvettes. I didn't realize the C5 was so much older than the 5th gen Camaros.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Před rokem +2

      @@Fade2BlackSS Yup, C5 is 1997-2005

    • @theeducatedredneck4144
      @theeducatedredneck4144 Před rokem

      ​@@mrvwbug4423'97 to '04, the C6 debuted in '05 and went through '13.

  • @thecarparty639
    @thecarparty639 Před rokem +1

    I’m genuinely nauseous at the fact that the race was that close. The I4 Camaro is a trashcan that shouldn’t exist and the C5 is a legend.
    It’s impressive that a Trashcan did that well, but I’d rather eat my own toenails than buy an I4 Camaro. Doesn’t even make 300HP. 💀

  • @chriscole4717
    @chriscole4717 Před rokem +1

    So, if you guys ever get a chance, test the 6th generation V6 Camaro. It is quite a bit faster than the four cylinder, and very different feeling. 335 horsepower, 3300 lbs; 13.6 quarter mile stock. You would assume the direct competition for the V6 Camaro is the EcoBoost, but it is quite a bit faster than the EcoBoost mustangs. It's actually about 0.3 seconds faster than an RT challenger. How do I know this? Well...I've got one lol. I was in mexico with my 09 mustang gt and ended up getting pulled by an lgx Camaro. Bought one with the zf eight-speed automatic and I've been consistently surprised.

  • @artlife6210
    @artlife6210 Před 9 měsíci +1

    the 4 banger Mustang is a lot like the Camaro here, off the line they skedaddle but are reeled in easy within the quarter mile.
    Most street races are over in 1/8 or less so the 4 banger may embarass a few newer v8s especially the 60 foot mark

  • @imkwuzn
    @imkwuzn Před rokem +1

    Love my C5. I promise it will smoke that Camaro off the line at sea level.

  • @JustinDaniels
    @JustinDaniels Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wait, so my 2017 V6 Accord Coupe is faster in the quarter mile than an entry level Camaro? Interesting.
    Oh, wait, they're at altitude...

  • @michaelwhite8493
    @michaelwhite8493 Před rokem +1

    At this point, I'll get behind any power plant that still burns fuel. No matter the number of cylinders.

  • @tinmanslickgreasy999
    @tinmanslickgreasy999 Před 9 měsíci

    Tommy looking back at the volt like what heck!!! Its still right there....? haha

  • @johnh1932
    @johnh1932 Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting comparo of different tech. Amazing how many people dont understand this type of comparison.

  • @ianrs6310
    @ianrs6310 Před rokem +3

    Amazed at the consistent ability to get the worst 1/4 mile times ever recorded for these cars.

    • @richeywcassel
      @richeywcassel Před rokem

      Altitude in CO

    • @bradleylovej
      @bradleylovej Před rokem

      Right? I've neeeever heard of a C5 corvette running 15.40s in the quarter mile. I'm also from Texas, so we don't have altitude, but I still don't believe that would make a 2 SECOND DIFFERENCE in most Corvette's 1/4 time.

    • @mikee2923
      @mikee2923 Před 9 měsíci

      What is with the altitude crap? Are they carbureted? Anything with electronic fuel injection will compensate for the difference automatically if equipped with a mass airflow sensor.

    • @cooldaddyslick6869
      @cooldaddyslick6869 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@mikee2923 You do realize there's less oxygen the higher you go right???

    • @mikee2923
      @mikee2923 Před 9 měsíci

      @@cooldaddyslick6869 Yes I do. But is the oxygen content of the atmosphere that low to cause a car to lose enough power to add 2-3 seconds to its quarter mile time? My point is that unlike a carburated engine that would have to be adjusted or possibly rejetted any modern automobile engine with a mass airflow sensor should be able to compensate for the difference in oxygen content in the air. While I do understand that the performance would suffer slightly since it won’t be able to deliver quite as much fuel due to the lower oxygen content, but is the oxygen content that much lower that it would cause a car that is known to run a mid 13 second quarter mile to run mid to high 15 seconds? I could understand maybe a half second or so but not much more than that. I have been to a drag strip 1 time and got better times out of a bone stock TPI equipped 89 Formula 350. But that wasn’t a high altitude area and averaged a flat 15 second time on my runs by just flooring the gas on the green and bypassing the burnout box. Would it have ran in the 17 second range there? Either they are the world’s worst drag racers or there’s something wrong with the Corvette.

  • @carsonschultz9071
    @carsonschultz9071 Před 10 měsíci

    Nice video,the corvette got some power in it hey ,still want to try out a drag with camaro fitted with a VictorRacing active , i think its going to surprise me

  • @heighsta4269
    @heighsta4269 Před 4 měsíci

    What exhaust system are you running on the c5?

  • @JarmelSingsKaraoke
    @JarmelSingsKaraoke Před rokem

    THANKS TEAM TFL 👏👏👏....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FRIDAY EVERYBODY ✌️

  • @davideagle3002
    @davideagle3002 Před rokem +1

    The convertible camaro is also about 250-300 lbs heavier than the hard top version. Not that it really matters:)

    • @kellyoubrejr544
      @kellyoubrejr544 Před rokem +1

      Eh I wouldn’t say it doesn’t matter, actually matters more than what you would think.

  • @bradwilliams4921
    @bradwilliams4921 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @8307c4
    @8307c4 Před rokem +8

    First rule of ridiculous: A 4-banger Camaro.
    Yes, I realize they've been selling 4, 6 and 8 cylinder Camaros for many years, but I also believe they should only come in 8 cylinder versions.

    • @chriscole4717
      @chriscole4717 Před rokem +2

      That's not really good for business nor is it desirable. Majority of Camaros bought are base model 4 cylinders and v6s; but the 6th gen v6 is 335 hp, 13.5 to 13.7 stock. From experience, the new v6 is worth it merely for the enjoyment in being faster than the RT challenger and charger.

    • @chriscole4717
      @chriscole4717 Před rokem +1

      And also, the first Camaro ever had a 6 cylinder in it. That's what it was.

    • @christopherdutro168
      @christopherdutro168 Před 11 měsíci

      I agree 100percent! However I would also guess that you are at least 50 years old (I am 61) our age group has dieing ideas such as NO 4door hot rods! , 6 cylinder cars should be seen & NOT heard! , Black rims? Are you serious! We are no longer in the majority we are on our way out my friend.

  • @deekay2
    @deekay2 Před rokem +1

    The guy in the red Corvette was embarrassingly snoozing off the line.

  • @AlldatJazz-rw9wy
    @AlldatJazz-rw9wy Před 8 měsíci

    I'm glad dad took it, being from that era, the Vette was always the car we wanted. Never underestimate the power of the Vette.

  • @c8vegas
    @c8vegas Před rokem +1

    This is a perfect example as to why nobody buys a Camaro and that they are discontinued. It’s an absolute embarrassment what Chevy did to that car.

  • @frankpavan7865
    @frankpavan7865 Před 11 měsíci +1

    That was awesome. I guess numbers don't tell the whole story. I feel that the corvette has a higher fun to drive factor.

  • @GT-43
    @GT-43 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Bravo on the well placed commercial.

  • @JonBecker81
    @JonBecker81 Před rokem

    That first race is the battle of the Hertz specials.

  • @288gto7
    @288gto7 Před rokem

    I just realized you have this main channel with way more subs. Up until now i only knew the tfl classics channel 😅

  • @user-kw2pr7qj3r
    @user-kw2pr7qj3r Před rokem

    Old classic Camaro is FAR BETTER THAN then the other 2 cars plus very great sound

  • @uku000
    @uku000 Před rokem +1

    Damnnn 6:13 those exhaust movement are really cool!

  • @brandonstewart7145
    @brandonstewart7145 Před rokem

    Thanks for the fun video gang😊

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley Před rokem +2

    Are we forgetting about the snail under the hood of the camaro? Makes all the differences, especially at altitude. Well, that launch looked a little soft in the vette as well.

    • @jasonjones8804
      @jasonjones8804 Před rokem +2

      I agree seemed like dad was sleeping

    • @LordHolley
      @LordHolley Před rokem +1

      @Jason Jones Yeah, I understand trying to add a little suspense to the video, but you gotta fake it a little better, lol.

    • @BearJew72
      @BearJew72 Před rokem

      This wasn't a real drag race either.

  • @josels1292
    @josels1292 Před rokem +2

    Good Race, I also have both of these cars but my Camaro is not a 4 cylinder, I have a SS 1le and a 03 C5 corvette. Hands down the Camaro will
    Take the old c5 from a dig. But the corvette might be neck to neck from 100 to 140 I would say.

  • @williamabaker12
    @williamabaker12 Před rokem +3

    The 30mph roll race is the absolute perfect spot to roll race if you have a 4l60 trans, like the Corvette. Puts you in the middle of the powerband in 1st gear. I know because it's the same archaic trans in my 2012 Silverado with the 4.8l, which btw, paired with the 3.23 rear diff they put in this thing, seems like a bad joke from GM. Lol.
    Either way, as old and lacking as they are compared to new, 30 speed transmissions 😂, you couldn't have picked a better roll race for it. Try it again at 50 or 55, the Vette wouldn't have taken it so handily.

  • @Azrael_4.6
    @Azrael_4.6 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I hate watching these because they never use the paddle shifters, we all know if you use those your faster 😂😂

  • @markderoller7645
    @markderoller7645 Před rokem +3

    I love the C5.

  • @tangledline
    @tangledline Před rokem +1

    Good stuff!!! It's the 80s and 90s again! Id prefer the Iron Duke over any 4 banger today. Seems todays 4 bangers are Harbor Freightish (

  • @gotmylk
    @gotmylk Před rokem +1

    "I really want a Chevy Bolt" and "I love your Chevy Bolt" said no one.

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  Před rokem

      If that’s true why are they sold out🤔

    • @gotmylk
      @gotmylk Před rokem

      @@TFLcar because manufacturing of cars is at an all time low. First it started with the chip shortage. Now its due to manufacturers slowing production to keep profits up on the limited inventory. And as long as the state of CA exists and gas prices are sky high cars like the hideous Bolt, Leaf and Prius will have consumers.

  • @gerardomedina333
    @gerardomedina333 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for posting this Mr.
    Without a doubt. An old LS1 of course!!!!

  • @logo8976
    @logo8976 Před rokem +2

    I had a Chevy Camaro turbo and was definitely a great car besides the transmission always being rough and banging and jerking.. I think because it was the 8 speed that had a lawsuit.
    I also love the father and son duo 😊

    • @danielsherrill7085
      @danielsherrill7085 Před rokem +1

      My 2016 had the torque converter shudder problem. GM put the wrong fluid in them from the factory, and their "fix" was to triple flush the system and put the correct transmission fluid in it, provided the customer had stopped driving the car and didn't do permanent damage to the transmission. They charged me $650 at the dealer to do this, even though it was GM's mistake, but it did fix mine and it gave no more problems

    • @johnasbury9915
      @johnasbury9915 Před 8 měsíci

      We had that 8 spd in our ‘15 Z06, what a horrible transmission… absolutely awful in normal driving. If you hammered it, no problem, but if you hammered it often, you’ll be in jail.

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 Před rokem +2

    That Corvette would do much better with a 6 speed manual...

  • @Me-eb3wv
    @Me-eb3wv Před 11 měsíci +1

    I do believe that these are meant for 2 totally different target demographic. The v4/v6 Camaro is best suited for tuners that were previously into JDM and euro v6 sports cars such, while the v8 is best suited for old school muscle car guys.
    I’m a young guy so no surprise I belong to the v4/v6 tuner sport car demographic. To each their own.

    • @trevorshark16
      @trevorshark16 Před 9 měsíci

      Small correction: it has an inline 4 engine. V4 is only used on motorcycles

    • @Me-eb3wv
      @Me-eb3wv Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@trevorshark16 true man

    • @PURENT
      @PURENT Před 9 měsíci

      @@Me-eb3wv I don't think so. The inline 4 and v6 model muscle cars have always been for those people who want to drive a cool car, but aren't car enthusiasts. You see people all the time who will say that anything other than a v8 in a muscle car is sacrilegious and others who will deride anything that is an automatic, but most people are just completely oblivious to all of that and they're just happy having something a little more unique to drive to work in than an SUV or something.

  • @garysmith4538
    @garysmith4538 Před rokem

    Another great video

  • @slomarielt
    @slomarielt Před 7 měsíci

    you have to hold traction mode off for 10 seconds btw to fully turn of traction (i4) rather than just tapping it

  • @greyfoxzero
    @greyfoxzero Před 7 měsíci

    The engineering on those 4 cylinders is way better than people are talking about. It's out of place in a Camaro but it would have been great for a lighter car more like what we see with Subaru or Honda.

  • @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697

    I'd have the Camaro, I like the look of them. It's nice to have some performance but I don't care what is the fastest, that's not why I buy a car. Someone always has a faster car, I like cars that get me to work, put a smile on face and preferably be something I enjoy looking at on the driveway.

    • @gman3563
      @gman3563 Před rokem +1

      It's always more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow

    • @neilis2405
      @neilis2405 Před rokem

      Well and honestly to me in driving I value acceleration much more than top-end speed. For that the Camaro seemed to do better in this test.

    • @itsjamilagain
      @itsjamilagain Před rokem

      ​@@neilis2405 A manual C5 post 2001 will blow the doors off a 4cyl Camaro, not even close.

    • @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697
      @dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697 Před rokem

      @@itsjamilagain That maybe but my original point was, how much power do you actually need. Just enough to put a smile on my face is enough for me, I don't care if other cars are faster than mine but of course I'd take the manual C5, it's a manual, there is no competition for that amount of fun but I wouldn't be buying it because it's faster.
      I think the point I was making is I'm not in a race, I'm driving to work, visiting friends and family or going for a drive in the countryside and I'm in the UK, tight winding roads here. Miata/MX5's are driving heaven here.

  • @spcneary
    @spcneary Před rokem +2

    I wish manufacturers wouldn’t limit torque so much, my wife’s ionic 5 is the same way. It feels kinda slow off the line and around 20-30 it gets full power even in sport mode. My volt is the opposite, if I brake torque it will blow the tires off and it falls off hard at about 50mph.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Před rokem

      Pretty sure the torque limits in some EVs is to protect the drivetrain from the instant torque. They don't want a bunch of warranty claims from people blowing up differentials and driveshafts from launching their EVs.

  • @JayPee0521
    @JayPee0521 Před 8 měsíci

    Never thought I’d be impressed with a 4 Cylinder Camaro. And I was right

  • @mattcrad8605
    @mattcrad8605 Před rokem +1

    Theses guys really go out of their way to make V8 cars look bad. Every single time.

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  Před rokem +1

      Yes Matt, you saw through our cunning plan to only test cars at one mile above sea level. We actually live in Florida and drive to Colorado just to drag race to make the V8 look bad. If there was only a way to force more air into the engine to make up for the higher altitudes. 🤔

    • @Lucille69caddy
      @Lucille69caddy Před rokem

      That’s the liberal way.

  • @mathewjones7663
    @mathewjones7663 Před rokem +1

    I pity every 4-cylinder camero owner even more that i did before.

  • @gunningopher
    @gunningopher Před rokem +2

    EV haters are also 4cyl haters so no minds were changed today, LOL.

  • @martinblanco7899
    @martinblanco7899 Před rokem

    I wonder if he turn off the traction control on the c5? .
    I have a 1998 c5 and from a dig mine takes off faster then the one in the video.

  • @Reyd_01
    @Reyd_01 Před rokem

    Oooo heavy drop top too, Im excited, this is what youtube needs...

  • @canadaeast8358
    @canadaeast8358 Před rokem +1

    Can’t beat that v8 sound

  • @JoeSparro
    @JoeSparro Před 6 měsíci

    "He took off immediately " - every guy with a turbo

  • @capstone-sr4ok
    @capstone-sr4ok Před rokem +1

    Stock Camaro 🔥🔥
    That little future buddie 🔥🔥

  • @rzjk301
    @rzjk301 Před rokem +1

    Cool! I loved it when my 1995 Mustang Gt with a 347 beat the snot out of a 2013 Camaro V8. Long live old muscle

    • @chriscole4717
      @chriscole4717 Před rokem

      Lol I'm a 6th gen Camaro owner; you Ford stroker guys are nuts I believe you lol I never trust a "just a 347 nothin special" guy

  • @Emilthehun
    @Emilthehun Před rokem +3

    The convertible is the heaviest camaro you can buy. And it was still impressive , but I'd like to think my c5 does better 😂. (Probably not)
    Now can you guys get a v6 camaro (not convertible) , and do the same?