@@stuartmorgan3654 He also plays the role of Richard Feynmann in Oppenheimer, and he does it extremely well. I wish they made a comedy series about young Feynmann starring him.
@@trajan74 Yeah but they are completely different (for the better, in my opinion.) The Boys comic version of Hughie was designed to look and be Simon Pegg, Hughie's Dad in the show as homage. Live-action Hughie as well as the live-action show is way better than the comic. Again, in my opinion.
I couldn't agree more...it's so simple yet so perfect in this scene. In all this time consequences / multiverse / etc. where we have to flesh all that out....how about you just don't look. Brilliant.
@@Synthonym No, he taught her empathy. It's a shame that Picard was made before LD: we could have gotten a small cameo with older Boims and Mariner in one of the ships on S2 or S3.
Well, we know that he's actually more than competent since duplicate Boimler rose up the ranks pretty quickly in the Titan. His career seems to be going really well.
Boimler's jury rigging is classic Lower Decks. If you watch, you'll see that their fixes are always messier than those of their counterparts. Geordi, Scotty, Uhura, always have little do dads that go buzz, but the LD guys always have isolinear chips all over the floor and no concept of cord management.
@@stormtempterf8058honestly I don’t trust anyone who prioritizes cable management while bodging. You wait until you find a solution to make things look tidy
Imagine a crossover where Pike and a couple others are sent into the future and end up on the Cerritos. He sees Boimler and Mariner and says “Oh God not you two, again.”😂
And soon will realize the crew of the Cerritos are also crazy, like imagine learning that Cerritos's captain is so vindictive that she unleashed a triplicating alien plague on a Starfleet party😆
@@terrylong8894 IIRC a number of the voice actors for LD would be a difficult fit to get close to their animated character's appearances. Having the full SNW bunch (and the Enterprise itself) show up animated in a Lower Decks episode might be more practical.
I think that was a bit of the point of humanity in the ST universe. Most other species, especially the other federation Founder species, are very careful, studious and take their time with things. We live fast and burn bright, we have no time for absolute caution and constant refrains of it can't be done. We don't just reach for the stars, we leap and bound for them, to do less would invite entropy and death to claim us without having left a mark or a shout in the dark to ring through the ages. Just a bit imo, mind you
She literally immediately realized how dumb that remark sounded the second she said it. You could just see the wheels turning as soon as she finished the sentence.
The easy option to let the future traveller help without them gaining future tech knowledge.... They get a result they couldn't have, without him, but they were already in that state, and this was a way to get back there. Though they COULD reverse engineer what he did to the console...
@@FFKonoko The way I look at it, at this point, they've already done some things they weren't supposed to do. They were never supposed to encounter the Orion ship there. So knowing anything about the future isn't going to really make much of a difference since this probably has already caused the course of events to alter from what it would have been.
@@FFKonoko To be fair, there's a very easy way to make sure that doesn't happen. Just have Boilmer undo whatever changes he made so there's nothing to reverse engineer. They only needed it for that 1 time, so there's no reason to keep these changes considering the risks to the timeline. Outside Ortega, they all have personal reasons to keep the timeline intact as much as can, so I can see them making sure Boimler left as little future knowledge as possible with them in any way, shape or form.
I always loved the detail that usually, when Starfleet is performing an engineering task it's done like surgery - neat, orderly, carefully planned and with everything either in it's place as much as possible or returned there ASAP. When a character from Lower Decks is doing it they either jam things together in two seconds or it cuts back to a mess of wires that could make christmas tree lights cry in frustration.
3:57 off screen Mariner: The uniforms! Boimler: Mariner, please! Mariner: Ugh.. ranks on the sleeves, I don't know about that... (Mariner always have her sleeves rolled up)
@@carlzerris6566 If you can't see their sleeves while they're at parade rest, that means you're in front of them, facing them. Which means you PUT them at parade rest. Which means you already damn well know what their ranks are, and that yours is unquestionably superior. Which is all that matters.
1:06 "... and I know diplomacy is one of your many, many strengths. That and patience, forgiveness, benevolence ... and really great hair." 😄 I just love that Boimler being a Star Trek nerd knows how to push the buttons with Captain Pike - and the last part must be the reaction to the countless memes of Pike's hair 😂 and he seems to fall for this kind of flattery to start diplomacy with the Orions. 😉
@@SBaby Naah, that happened few episodes prior this one, so maybe and aftereffect 🤣 I mean full human Spock threatened to break George Kirk in half, so...
Hundreds of years. Wrap your head around this. Hundreds of years of Federation law and Practical and Temporal Prime Directive stuff, and all they have to do is not look. It astonishes me that more Captains have not figured this out.
I will say that the TOS-era uniform remakes are looking better this season. Probably because that black undershirt now has a higher collar so it actually shows more underneath the division tunic, creating a closer resemblance to the actual uniforms from TOS. They just looked like V-necks with almost nothing underneath in Season 1.
TOS uniforms looked literally just the shirt with a black collar. They also had patches instead of badges. Maybe we don’t worry if they’re super accurate.
Definitely agree, though the season 1 uniforms, having such a small amount of the collar showing, really felt like an earlier iteration of TOS uniforms, evoking rather than 1 to 1, giving the impression of uniforms evolving rather than directly changing. Would be great to see uniform changes built into the stories too! But I get where you're coming from.
@@TheAwesome45 My theory is that all the time travel shenanigans from Enterprise to the current time has retconned a lot of stuff it explains the inconsistencies
Literally the laziest solution to like 70% of time travel paradoxes... Oh! So THAT'S why future people had statues of Boilmer for being lazy! His adopted laziness (from a certain bunkmate) let them figure out one of time travel's biggest problems from a simple, "uh, just don't?".
@tanepukenga1421 Nah it's incredibly smart. What matters most about polluting the past timeline is if that knowledge is some kind of contagion and disrupts the natural process of that technological know-how developing. If he's the one to modify the ship, none of them sees how he does it, and then he takes it apart, none of them will have the future knowledge of how it's done. It's a sensible common sense response that solves a time travel problem people often overthink no different from how he deleted the data he put into that PADD so it wasn't in the past.
I know it had to be Mariner because she pretty much LDs mascot... but can you imagine the chaos if Tendi had been shot through instead? Would have loved to get more Orion screen time and POV
Jack Quaid is legit a gift to whatever production he's cast in, but Ortega is lo-key sneakin' in and becoming my favourite character. "Future-boi" hahahahahahahahahahahagheheheheheheheeeee
If they ever do a reverse crossover I hope they include Ortegas as one of the crew that goes to the Cerritos. Out of all of the characters on SNW she's the one who would absolutely fit in with the Lower Deckers.
I have not even watched the episode yet, but was willing to risk the spoilers. They've been able to stay so true to each of the characters from _both_ series, making it just about perfect. 🙂👍
The straight man is always the hard part of any comedy team. Buster Keaton was known as "the great stoneface" because he was his own straight man. The movie Airplane was built around hiring famous dramatic actors to stay completely serious in the most ridiculous situations. Pike is carrying this episode in a bucket. Boimler and Mariner get to shine because they're standing on him.
Well Boimler tries to be risk-averse by nature. Mariner just goes through risks like they're exes... or ship duties. Or instructions her mom tells her to follow but never does.
I have often thought that some of her attitude comes from her past. SHe said she served on DS9 at the same time as Worf. That means that she was there through the Dominion conflict. With all the battles, she probably developed an "accomplish the mission by any means" attitude as well as PTSD. Which is why she is a peacetime trainwreck.
Temporal investigations: So what you're saying is that you used future knowledge and techniques to track down the Orions? Pike: yes, but we didn't obtain future knowledge since we looked the other way. Temporal investigations: ... I'm sorry, i know you meant metaphorically but the tone of your voice made it seem Pike: we just gathered the bridge crew and turned around until Boimler finished his modifications. Temporal investigations: ... WHAT THE FU
@@Jayjay-qe6um I'm pretty sure Temporal Investigations doesn't do any actual time travel themselves though, so Pike and the Enterprise are off the hook here.
Loved this episode. It's probably the only episode that depicts what it would be like if a fan of Star Trek was transported into the Star Trek universe. Great fun.
I was thinking that Temporal Investigations would've had a field day with Boimler and Mariner, but considering that they never did anything regarding Voyager's repeated use of the mobile emitter that they got from 29th century tech, nor about the fact that Voyager got home 30+ years earlier than they should've because of interference from an older Janeway, I realized that the worst they'll get is probably a slap on the wrist.
The episode they show up in in SNW seems to imply that the temporal cold war is less a fight between polities and more a war between _timelines_ - and since boimler and mariner's actions ultimately preserved and even seemingly caused the timeline the future feddies want, the DTI of their time would probably indeed be told "yeah, slap on the wrist, tell 'em not to share about it, etc"
@@danieljames1868 You know, that idea that its a war of different timelines, with all the players fighting for the existence of their entire universes, that's kinda metal and they should show more.
I know a theory is that the temporal investigations unit is also connected to or a part of section 31 so actually is fine with interference in the timeline that benefits the federation as long as it can be done subtly enough not to cause to many butterflies or alert other powers to said interference
The epiphany of "...can we?" The paradoxes they are trying to avoid have two causes: changed actions and knowledge of future. If you eliminate one, you have to worry only about the other. And that came out way more Spock than intended.
I want a live action Lower Decks show so badly. Jack Quaid is such a fantastic actor, and I've never seen an animated character translate to live action so well.
Tbh, all Mariner would do then is say 'live long and prosper' whilst doing her signiature sarcastic double-vulcan salute to both Captain Freeman and Temporal Investigations as she walked out of the room like a badass
Then once he is finished with his career in Starfleet he went back to his farm life and took up a career in journalism and revealed that he's a supe with all of Homelander's powers. Man his life gets exciting.
Me and my friend call Captain Pike "the cool dad". Like the single dad that all other parents love, has the best bbqs, and always seems to know what to say. We love that he is "cool dad", but not "perfect dad". He seems more believable because of it
Pike: "Ideas? (BOIMLER RAISES HAND) Not you!" Boimler: "Fair...(TO SPOCK) Can you tell the captain the Orions want to trade? They see it as a sign of respect." Spock: (EYEBROW RAISE) Pike: "You know I can hear you? I'm standing right here..." Boimler: "Sorry, I thought the distance of the room would uh..." Man, the accoustics on the bridge must be amazing. Wonder if anyone's ever tried karaoke there.
"Just don't look" and the subsequent scene of the crew standing with their backs to him is so typical for cartoons, they did very well here integrating that continuity.
Being a huge fan of Lower Decks (and SNW), this was a highly anticipated episode and it was fantastic. Really well done and part of a set of incredibly different SNW episodes, each with a very different tone.
Boimler and Mariner head back at the end of the episode; the episode after it is a realistic exploration of two characters' ptsd, and after that is musical.
I was going through some stuff when this episode came out. By the end I felt genuinely happy for the first time in many months, and was content to sit in a state of bliss for as long as possible. The fact this turned out to be about eight seconds, after my dog scared the crap out of me by barking his head of at nothing right next to me, hasn't stopped this episode from becoming my go to watch when things start getting hard again. :D
Wrong , the best star trek show is : LOWER DECKS strange new worlds is boring and ... more like : better then nothing IT TOOK THE LOWER DECKS CREW TO MAKE A GOOD EPISODE IN Star trek strange new worlds . The episodes before and afther the crossover are BORING . WHAT MADE STRANGE NEW WORLDS BLOWUP? IS THE BEST STAR TREK SERIES OF THE MOMENT RUBBING SOME STAR DUST ON STRANGE NEW WORLDS AS IT WAS TO BORING AND THE VIEW COUNT SAYS A LOT . STAR TREK LOWER DECKS IS THE KING OF THE MOMENT
@@kosminuskosminus6668 You didn't think the Gorn episode was one of the last legit scary episodes of ST in the last 15 years? Well you do type in mostly caps...
This could possibly be the best Star Trek episode ever. 1. Those old scientists 2. The Trouble with Tribbles. Hoping for the ultimate movie featuring Lower Decks, SNW, Enterprise, Picard, The Orville and Galaxy Quest. Directed by Frakes as well.
Trouble with Tribbles is good, but I prefer the original Time-Travel-and-Meet-The-Legends Episode: DS9's Trials and Tribble-ations, where the DS9 crew sneaks around during the events of The Trouble with Tribbles.
@@MarshalStomm Ah yes, the great "what is the best ST episode. The best written story concept was "City on the Edge of Forever," easily followed up by DS9 "Far Beond the Stars." Brooks was at his best. But Tribbles showcased EVERY TOS era actor contributing nearly equally. Most shows feature heavily one or more but rarely all. Still fun to discuss.
Interesting, just notice that the insignia is a actual badge not like in TOS where it was printed onto the uniform and this show is suppose to be during that era or slightly before that era.
I wana see Boimz and Mariner being on Voyager that'll be fun...meeting Seven of Nine while shes still figuring out Humanity and Humor. Mariner leaves her with a Joke she couldnt figure out. Then dacedes later meets Captain Seven of Nine of Enterprise G. This time Mariner gets pranked by the captain and she now knows the punchline of the Joke.😅
One thing I didn't quite get about this episode is that there wasn't any interference from temporal agents. You'd think a temporal incursion into the history of the U.S.S Enterprise would be a really huge deal. I mean they investigated Sisko, and his entire crew did substantially less damage to the timelime than just Boimler alone, let alone Mariner.
Cause that was the whole deal, remember the convo at the start on the ceritos? That whole temporal incident was SUPPOSED to happen. It always went that way. Think about it, if Boimler wasn't there, Pike would've fired before hailing, before finding out it's an Orien science vessel and would've killed Tendi's great-great grandma. Which means Tendi wouldn't have been there to pull Boimler out of the fire in previous LD episodes. Even if he didn't do that 'make fun of myself to stop mutated-spider-Tendi' thing then his personality would've been different when he time travelled and things would've gone wrong. Plus he wouldn't have gotten the character development we like. Essentially, they aren't investigating because it was a scripted event.
@@tanepukenga1421 In the DS9 episode I mentioned, its established that temporal agents hate predestination paradoxes. I think they probably would have investigated the matter with more urgency because of that.
Jack did so incredibly well playing a cartoon character in live action...
Well he also plays a live action version of comic book character on The Boys.
@@trajan74 Now that's what you call range.
@@stuartmorgan3654 He also plays the role of Richard Feynmann in Oppenheimer, and he does it extremely well. I wish they made a comedy series about young Feynmann starring him.
@@trajan74 Yeah but they are completely different (for the better, in my opinion.) The Boys comic version of Hughie was designed to look and be Simon Pegg, Hughie's Dad in the show as homage. Live-action Hughie as well as the live-action show is way better than the comic. Again, in my opinion.
He is the main reason im starting to watch lower decks. Funny AF.
Im waiting season 4 of The Boys too.
"Just don't look"
A genius time traveler tactic
I'm not gonna lie, it's actually surprisingly brilliant. I kinda love it lmao.
It's like the inverse of of usual Star Trek where they over explain stuff. I love it.
I couldn't agree more...it's so simple yet so perfect in this scene. In all this time consequences / multiverse / etc. where we have to flesh all that out....how about you just don't look. Brilliant.
Helped with Daniels. He installed tech on the NX-01 when no one was looking.
@@SomeKindaSpy Simple, yet effective. If they don't watch to see how he did it, they can't repliace it and do it themselves.
Pike: “Any ideas?”
[Boimler raises hand]
Pike: “Not you.”
Boimler: “Fair.”
Lmao, that was perfect.
Boimler turns to Spock and relays information..
Pike: "You know I can hear you, I'm standing right here..."
Spock: Chris, no need to shout. Need i remind you I am Vulcan. To me, your harsh tone is that of a screaming Klingon wench.
@@gonzo26nix Boimler: "Sorry! I thought the span of the room would-uhh…"
It is nice, on occasion, when we get reminders that, under the clutz, and erm... enthusiasm... Boimler is actually a very competant officer
He is. He's a competent officer whose inexperience and nervousness make him underperform. But when he's prepared, he outsmarts an Evil supercomputer.
He did rescue all those borg babies and taught the Queen the power of love
@@Synthonym No, he taught her empathy.
It's a shame that Picard was made before LD: we could have gotten a small cameo with older Boims and Mariner in one of the ships on S2 or S3.
Well, we know that he's actually more than competent since duplicate Boimler rose up the ranks pretty quickly in the Titan. His career seems to be going really well.
Don’t forget he was the only person not overwhelmed in the time management episode
Boimler's jury rigging is classic Lower Decks. If you watch, you'll see that their fixes are always messier than those of their counterparts. Geordi, Scotty, Uhura, always have little do dads that go buzz, but the LD guys always have isolinear chips all over the floor and no concept of cord management.
An IT's worst nightmare would be a starship with bad cord management XD
@@stormtempterf8058 Did anybody even try to turn the TIme Travel Portal off and then power it back on again!??
@digitalcurrents nothing better then putting the ball up and watching someone else getting a slam dunk. Bravo 👏
I freaking loved that tangled scene. It's like watching a cartoon in real life
@@stormtempterf8058honestly I don’t trust anyone who prioritizes cable management while bodging. You wait until you find a solution to make things look tidy
Imagine a crossover where Pike and a couple others are sent into the future and end up on the Cerritos. He sees Boimler and Mariner and says “Oh God not you two, again.”😂
And soon will realize the crew of the Cerritos are also crazy, like imagine learning that Cerritos's captain is so vindictive that she unleashed a triplicating alien plague on a Starfleet party😆
If we get a live action Lower Decks episode? ABSOLUTELY.
"We've got to stop meeting like this.."
@@terrylong8894 IIRC a number of the voice actors for LD would be a difficult fit to get close to their animated character's appearances. Having the full SNW bunch (and the Enterprise itself) show up animated in a Lower Decks episode might be more practical.
@@someonestolebigboi-imbigboi 🤣
“Are we sure this is wise?”
“No, but I’m going with it.”
Humans in the Star Trek universe summed up in a single exchange
We really still don't know what the hell were doing in the future.... that feels true.
I think that was a bit of the point of humanity in the ST universe. Most other species, especially the other federation Founder species, are very careful, studious and take their time with things. We live fast and burn bright, we have no time for absolute caution and constant refrains of it can't be done. We don't just reach for the stars, we leap and bound for them, to do less would invite entropy and death to claim us without having left a mark or a shout in the dark to ring through the ages.
Just a bit imo, mind you
Yeah that's us
I’m pretty sure that sums up human behaviour in every universe, including the real one.
Nu Trek. TNG was nothing like this. TOS was aggressively nothing like this.
I'm loving the quote "That's ridiculous you can't just not look...can we?" and then they just do it.
She literally immediately realized how dumb that remark sounded the second she said it. You could just see the wheels turning as soon as she finished the sentence.
The easy option to let the future traveller help without them gaining future tech knowledge....
They get a result they couldn't have, without him, but they were already in that state, and this was a way to get back there.
Though they COULD reverse engineer what he did to the console...
@@FFKonoko The way I look at it, at this point, they've already done some things they weren't supposed to do. They were never supposed to encounter the Orion ship there. So knowing anything about the future isn't going to really make much of a difference since this probably has already caused the course of events to alter from what it would have been.
I don't. how is this garbage "Star Trek"?
@@FFKonoko To be fair, there's a very easy way to make sure that doesn't happen. Just have Boilmer undo whatever changes he made so there's nothing to reverse engineer. They only needed it for that 1 time, so there's no reason to keep these changes considering the risks to the timeline.
Outside Ortega, they all have personal reasons to keep the timeline intact as much as can, so I can see them making sure Boimler left as little future knowledge as possible with them in any way, shape or form.
Anson Mount showing why this is his series. His delivery, timing and acting make this work in a way I don’t think anyone else could.
He’s honestly hilarious!
Don't forget his really great hair.
He's got charisma to spare
@@iainanderson6775And he's willing to step back and be absent for other characters to evolve
Oboy!!!. Becket. Crazy ride 😂😂😂😂😂
Seeing Boimler dangling from the cables was so "Lower Decks", I could just picture the animated version in my head seamlessly
My favorite bit was in another part where Boiler screamed and ran away
@@gonzo26nix The Power Walk
I always loved the detail that usually, when Starfleet is performing an engineering task it's done like surgery - neat, orderly, carefully planned and with everything either in it's place as much as possible or returned there ASAP. When a character from Lower Decks is doing it they either jam things together in two seconds or it cuts back to a mess of wires that could make christmas tree lights cry in frustration.
@@aecides3203"the Energizer's bypassed like a Christmas tree, so dinne give me to many jolts!"
3:57 off screen
Mariner: The uniforms!
Boimler: Mariner, please!
Mariner: Ugh.. ranks on the sleeves, I don't know about that... (Mariner always have her sleeves rolled up)
To be fair im sort of with her on thw ranks on the sleeves but for different reasons. How do you tell rank if they are standing at Parade rest?
@@carlzerris6566 If you can't see their sleeves while they're at parade rest, that means you're in front of them, facing them. Which means you PUT them at parade rest. Which means you already damn well know what their ranks are, and that yours is unquestionably superior. Which is all that matters.
@@carlzerris6566I agree as well, put the rank on the collar where it belongs, how am I supposed to see the rank if I can see their arms?
2:06 I love how Pike delivered the line “Not You”
He was SO done.
You can practically hear the facepalm
@@westrim 110% done. XD
No pause he knew Boimler was going to answer
He sounds like a high school teacher who is frustrated with their student
1:06 "... and I know diplomacy is one of your many, many strengths. That and patience, forgiveness, benevolence ... and really great hair." 😄 I just love that Boimler being a Star Trek nerd knows how to push the buttons with Captain Pike - and the last part must be the reaction to the countless memes of Pike's hair 😂 and he seems to fall for this kind of flattery to start diplomacy with the Orions. 😉
I think it's more about the captain s fate.
The guy with a purple pompadour talking about someone else's hair is also a classic
I just love the fact that Spock turns around and looks at Pike when Boimler mentions Pike's Hair.
I absolutely love Spocks face after Mariner comes through. Truly a Vulcan struggling to contain his emotions.
The moment Spock almost turned human.
It's only logical in the face of such stupidity
@@SBaby Naah, that happened few episodes prior this one, so maybe and aftereffect 🤣 I mean full human Spock threatened to break George Kirk in half, so...
@@HanithSVK I said that as a joke. Spock laughed right in the first episode.
I love the subtle "span of the room" jab at how huge nuTrek bridges are.
Also about how in animation, the convention is often that speaking in a low voice means no one out of frame can hear you.
It's also a jab at how in shows people talk/whisper RIGHT BESIDE someone, and they don't hear.
Tbh, I think enterprise-d's bridge is bigger than this. But comparing SNW's bridge to TOS' bridge is a large upscaling of size.
Anson showing that subtle caving to flattery! I love that sly look he gives about his hair before a glance from Spock!
Lol... got him with really great hair...
“Don’t be ridiculous; we can’t just not look. Can we?” 😂
It’s actually a brilliantly simplistic solution.
Hundreds of years. Wrap your head around this. Hundreds of years of Federation law and Practical and Temporal Prime Directive stuff, and all they have to do is not look. It astonishes me that more Captains have not figured this out.
I will say that the TOS-era uniform remakes are looking better this season. Probably because that black undershirt now has a higher collar so it actually shows more underneath the division tunic, creating a closer resemblance to the actual uniforms from TOS. They just looked like V-necks with almost nothing underneath in Season 1.
TOS uniforms looked literally just the shirt with a black collar. They also had patches instead of badges. Maybe we don’t worry if they’re super accurate.
Definitely agree, though the season 1 uniforms, having such a small amount of the collar showing, really felt like an earlier iteration of TOS uniforms, evoking rather than 1 to 1, giving the impression of uniforms evolving rather than directly changing. Would be great to see uniform changes built into the stories too! But I get where you're coming from.
@@TheAwesome45 What is the point of this comment?
OP likes the costumes and was positive on the whole. No need to be patronizing.
I still absolutely adored the coloured jackets they wore on Discovery. The shape and fit of them was so cool.
@@TheAwesome45 My theory is that all the time travel shenanigans from Enterprise to the current time has retconned a lot of stuff it explains the inconsistencies
This single smartest and most reasonable suggestion from a time traveler ever.
Literally the laziest solution to like 70% of time travel paradoxes... Oh! So THAT'S why future people had statues of Boilmer for being lazy!
His adopted laziness (from a certain bunkmate) let them figure out one of time travel's biggest problems from a simple, "uh, just don't?".
@tanepukenga1421 Nah it's incredibly smart. What matters most about polluting the past timeline is if that knowledge is some kind of contagion and disrupts the natural process of that technological know-how developing. If he's the one to modify the ship, none of them sees how he does it, and then he takes it apart, none of them will have the future knowledge of how it's done. It's a sensible common sense response that solves a time travel problem people often overthink no different from how he deleted the data he put into that PADD so it wasn't in the past.
Wow Boimler really cares about Tendi ❤
Nobody wants Tendi to be deleted
Rutherford would never be the same again...
Everyone cares about Tendi. Also, the main cast are all best friends.
Tendi is one of the best Star Trek characters. Period.
@@jaredangell5017 She's my favorite character too
Spock's reaction to really great hair was too good. He was like " did he just say that?"
It's almost like Spock just never noticed before and was fascinated by Pike's hair.
“Really great hair” 😂
His hair really is great.
I know it had to be Mariner because she pretty much LDs mascot... but can you imagine the chaos if Tendi had been shot through instead? Would have loved to get more Orion screen time and POV
Well, if it had been Tendi there probably wouldn't have been so much drama.
@@podemosurss8316except for two mistresses of the winter constellations in the same place😂
@@TheOmega1989oh no then Pike would have to do a Back to the future joke.
3:56 The background chatter between Mariner and Boimler cracks me up 😂
Jack Quaid is legit a gift to whatever production he's cast in, but Ortega is lo-key sneakin' in and becoming my favourite character. "Future-boi" hahahahahahahahahahahagheheheheheheheeeee
If they ever do a reverse crossover I hope they include Ortegas as one of the crew that goes to the Cerritos. Out of all of the characters on SNW she's the one who would absolutely fit in with the Lower Deckers.
OMG perfect----also Carol Kane's nutty chief engineer character whose name i forget--Pelia?? Pella>> anyway, her.@@zathras
@@glennlaroche1524 I'm hoping Pelia shows up in LD, she's almost definitely still alive in their time. "Oh, the future kids, hello again..."
"Future Boy" was Doc Brown's derogatory nickname for Marty McFly.
She is pretty awesome.
I have not even watched the episode yet, but was willing to risk the spoilers. They've been able to stay so true to each of the characters from _both_ series, making it just about perfect. 🙂👍
I don''t' wathc SNW, but the fact they got Jack Quiad and Tawny Newsome to portray live action Boimler and Mariner is awesome.
Damn why not? It's made with such love for the franchise, you can tell
I wonder if they could switch to producing future episodes of STLD as live action .💡
@@TheNoiseySpectatorgood luck finding eight foot tall actors for Shaq and ransom
"Ideas, not you" EPIC! Oh i do hope for more of this crossovers, this is simply brilliant.
They'll need to find another time portal
The come here and stand is just straight out of highschool
@@ragzzytv I’ve seen memes that Captain Pike has dad vibes. He absolutely deals with Boimler like his own teenage kid. 🤣
"You KNOW I can hear you, I'm standing right here." 😅😂😂
apparently pike gets weak at the knees when someone compliments his hair.
Considering last season Pikes hair changed every episode lol
He is just happy someone is paying attention 🤣🤣🤣
I mean ..it is great hair
Anson Mount has GREAT comedy chops!!
The straight man is always the hard part of any comedy team.
Buster Keaton was known as "the great stoneface" because he was his own straight man. The movie Airplane was built around hiring famous dramatic actors to stay completely serious in the most ridiculous situations.
Pike is carrying this episode in a bucket. Boimler and Mariner get to shine because they're standing on him.
Now that I think about it, I don’t think there’s a worse or character to throw into the past and expect them to not change then Beckett mariner
Beckett is such an amazing train wreck!
Well Boimler tries to be risk-averse by nature. Mariner just goes through risks like they're exes... or ship duties. Or instructions her mom tells her to follow but never does.
@@jaredangell5017 I usually go with wrecking ball, because trainwrecks are usually accidents unlike mariners shenanigans
@@benwasserman8223 even when she does she somehow always finds the one way that pisses her mother.
I have often thought that some of her attitude comes from her past. SHe said she served on DS9 at the same time as Worf. That means that she was there through the Dominion conflict. With all the battles, she probably developed an "accomplish the mission by any means" attitude as well as PTSD. Which is why she is a peacetime trainwreck.
Temporal investigations: So what you're saying is that you used future knowledge and techniques to track down the Orions?
Pike: yes, but we didn't obtain future knowledge since we looked the other way.
Temporal investigations: ... I'm sorry, i know you meant metaphorically but the tone of your voice made it seem
Pike: we just gathered the bridge crew and turned around until Boimler finished his modifications.
Temporal investigations: ... WHAT THE FU
Pike: (Shrugs)
Temporal Investigations: (Under breath) "It's always a Goddamn Enterprise in the middle of this dreck..."
Technically they established earlier in the season that Temporal Investigations doesn't exist at this point.
@@koshi6505But they do exist in the 24th century.
@@Jayjay-qe6um I'm pretty sure Temporal Investigations doesn't do any actual time travel themselves though, so Pike and the Enterprise are off the hook here.
Starfleet Medical are preparing a report on heightened efforts to quit drinking among Temporal Investigations officers as we speak...
Loved this episode. It's probably the only episode that depicts what it would be like if a fan of Star Trek was transported into the Star Trek universe. Great fun.
'Not you.'
'Fair.'
Pike's voice when he says "and you're doing it anyway" reminds me of my own days in the military every time
Spock’s reaction 😂😂
This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them!
I understood that reference.
Tawney kicked this episode right up to 11.
Disgruntled Dad Captain™ Pike has quickly become my favourite trek captain of all time
he still has the old thingy. loooooooooooool
I was thinking that Temporal Investigations would've had a field day with Boimler and Mariner, but considering that they never did anything regarding Voyager's repeated use of the mobile emitter that they got from 29th century tech, nor about the fact that Voyager got home 30+ years earlier than they should've because of interference from an older Janeway, I realized that the worst they'll get is probably a slap on the wrist.
they’re overworked.
Probably kirk’s fault
The episode they show up in in SNW seems to imply that the temporal cold war is less a fight between polities and more a war between _timelines_ - and since boimler and mariner's actions ultimately preserved and even seemingly caused the timeline the future feddies want, the DTI of their time would probably indeed be told "yeah, slap on the wrist, tell 'em not to share about it, etc"
@@danieljames1868 You know, that idea that its a war of different timelines, with all the players fighting for the existence of their entire universes, that's kinda metal and they should show more.
I know a theory is that the temporal investigations unit is also connected to or a part of section 31 so actually is fine with interference in the timeline that benefits the federation as long as it can be done subtly enough not to cause to many butterflies or alert other powers to said interference
Voyager needed to come home decades earlier so that 7of9 could become Captain of the Enterprise-G ;)
The epiphany of "...can we?" The paradoxes they are trying to avoid have two causes: changed actions and knowledge of future. If you eliminate one, you have to worry only about the other.
And that came out way more Spock than intended.
This is my favorite crossover episode in all Trek. The previous was the Tribble DS9/TOS. But this episode was incredible!
That's what people seem to forget about Trek, sometimes it's suppose to be silly.
I just giggle imagining a singular, gigantic sigh in unison of all of temporal investigations at THIS report.
that's just... wow. And Boimler/Mariner look exactly like their animated counterparts. That's fucking wild.
Bonus: Those are their voice actors in Lower Decks. They didn't find new actors for this episode.
"Ideas!?"
*Boimler raises hand*
"NOT YOU"
I want a live action Lower Decks show so badly.
Jack Quaid is such a fantastic actor, and I've never seen an animated character translate to live action so well.
I love how something so goofy ended up being pretty wholesome at the end.
Mariner: “Uhh Ranks on the sleeves, I don’t know about that…” Me: oh, it’s because she rolls up her sleeves I get it now 😂
Boimler and Mariner are definitely getting a visit from Temporal Investigation and a lecture from Captain Freeman when they get back.
Tbh, all Mariner would do then is say 'live long and prosper' whilst doing her signiature sarcastic double-vulcan salute to both Captain Freeman and Temporal Investigations as she walked out of the room like a badass
@@necromancify Also, it was an accident. And they probably helped some of the Enterprise crew with their personal issues (specially Una and Uhura).
Hughie went from killing supes to space! What a career!
With a stop off in Woodsburrow
And he fights evil as Superman!
Then once he is finished with his career in Starfleet he went back to his farm life and took up a career in journalism and revealed that he's a supe with all of Homelander's powers.
Man his life gets exciting.
Anyone else just fucking love that burst when they come out of warp? That’s the kind of ASMR I crave 😊
Me and my friend call Captain Pike "the cool dad". Like the single dad that all other parents love, has the best bbqs, and always seems to know what to say. We love that he is "cool dad", but not "perfect dad". He seems more believable because of it
oh man i didn't realize they actually brought boimler and mariner into a live action star trek! that's amazing.
I just noticed that the Orion captain is Greg Bryk (aka Joseph Seed from Farcry)
Pike's hair is the mane character.
The joke at 2:14 about the size of the bridge had me chuckling.
I love how his hair is tinted blue like the cartoon. That's attention to detail.
Definitely one of the top episodes of the entire franchise!
This Series is being outstanding!!! I hope more seasons to come!
Such Great casting. 😂
Ortega; you looked!
She was trying to get all the future knowledge she could! And went with any suggestion she got, like say a holiday/party on pike's birthday?
This entire series is just so spot on. It is an amalgamation of all the things that has made trek great over the last 60 years.
Pike: "Ideas? (BOIMLER RAISES HAND) Not you!"
Boimler: "Fair...(TO SPOCK) Can you tell the captain the Orions want to trade? They see it as a sign of respect."
Spock: (EYEBROW RAISE)
Pike: "You know I can hear you? I'm standing right here..."
Boimler: "Sorry, I thought the distance of the room would uh..."
Man, the accoustics on the bridge must be amazing. Wonder if anyone's ever tried karaoke there.
Singing on the Enterprise? That would be ridiculous, it would never happen.
@@thegrimmretails3777haha
See that ending?! That flipping IS THE FUN PART!
I loved this episode..
I wasn't sure how they were going to pull it off, but it was perfect.
Spock laughing and smiling was the funniest thing i had seen in a long long time. That episode was magical.
"Just don't look" and the subsequent scene of the crew standing with their backs to him is so typical for cartoons, they did very well here integrating that continuity.
this was my favorite crossover ever.
This makes me SO happy on so many levels
Being a huge fan of Lower Decks (and SNW), this was a highly anticipated episode and it was fantastic. Really well done and part of a set of incredibly different SNW episodes, each with a very different tone.
This is so gooood😂 I genuinely feel bad for “fans” missing out on this stuff because David Duke told them it’s “woke” and therefore unwatchable 😢
Who?
@Giuseppegranata7067 a conservative ultra-nationalist opposed to racial and gender equality.
@@Simmons8519 Ok, except racists and misogenists Who Is going to listen to this guy?
@@Simmons8519I repeat the question; who?
WOW that is a wild sentence. And like, David Duke shouldn’t have liked trek back in the day for… a number of reasons.
Mariner is an entire mood.
That would be my luck, too.
"I'm here to save you!"
"Yeah, that....was.....our last trip, right there....."
never seen strange new worlds but I LOVE Lower Decks! Please tell me this goes on for at least another episode, Tawney Newsome is amazing
Boimler and Mariner head back at the end of the episode; the episode after it is a realistic exploration of two characters' ptsd, and after that is musical.
I was going through some stuff when this episode came out. By the end I felt genuinely happy for the first time in many months, and was content to sit in a state of bliss for as long as possible. The fact this turned out to be about eight seconds, after my dog scared the crap out of me by barking his head of at nothing right next to me, hasn't stopped this episode from becoming my go to watch when things start getting hard again. :D
I've rewatched this several times already
Such a great performances from cast in this episode . Star Trek strange new worlds is the best show to watch rigth now in my opinion 🖖🖖🖖 .
Wrong , the best star trek show is : LOWER DECKS
strange new worlds is boring and ... more like : better then nothing
IT TOOK THE LOWER DECKS CREW TO MAKE A GOOD EPISODE IN Star trek strange new worlds .
The episodes before and afther the crossover are BORING . WHAT MADE STRANGE NEW WORLDS BLOWUP? IS THE BEST STAR TREK SERIES OF THE MOMENT RUBBING SOME STAR DUST ON STRANGE NEW WORLDS AS IT WAS TO BORING AND THE VIEW COUNT SAYS A LOT .
STAR TREK LOWER DECKS IS THE KING OF THE MOMENT
@@kosminuskosminus6668 You didn't think the Gorn episode was one of the last legit scary episodes of ST in the last 15 years? Well you do type in mostly caps...
This could possibly be the best Star Trek episode ever. 1. Those old scientists 2. The Trouble with Tribbles. Hoping for the ultimate movie featuring Lower Decks, SNW, Enterprise, Picard, The Orville and Galaxy Quest. Directed by Frakes as well.
Trouble with Tribbles is good, but I prefer the original Time-Travel-and-Meet-The-Legends Episode: DS9's Trials and Tribble-ations, where the DS9 crew sneaks around during the events of The Trouble with Tribbles.
@@MarshalStomm Ah yes, the great "what is the best ST episode. The best written story concept was "City on the Edge of Forever," easily followed up by DS9 "Far Beond the Stars." Brooks was at his best. But Tribbles showcased EVERY TOS era actor contributing nearly equally. Most shows feature heavily one or more but rarely all. Still fun to discuss.
As a fan of lower decks this was a very well done episode probably up there for one of my favorite star trek episodes.
this one gave me hope and joy. some of the best I've seen, so fukked up meta hybrid, stuff.. thank you writers
At this point I think I’ve seen the whole episode via Clips
When you get the chance, I highly recommend watching the entire episode. It's a treat.
@@juscallmeehx I actually have no idea what I am waiting for. 👍🏼
Interesting, just notice that the insignia is a actual badge not like in TOS where it was printed onto the uniform and this show is suppose to be during that era or slightly before that era.
Such a fun episode! Loved it.
Also can I just point out how amazing it is that this works so well with characters from the two series'?
Boimler fucking rules
That episode was FANTASTIC! Love it big time! and it cements even more the canones of Lower decks. BRILLIANT
The best episode ever of st snw all thanks to Jonathan Frakes directing this episode and the lower deck crew actor coming there!
As someone who has seen every series, this is one of my favorite episodes
The episode was the best thing that happened all summer.
Best ever episode.
So superbly tongue in cheek.
Exquisite dialogue.
A real pleasure to watch !
At the end when she says, "he has the old Thingy". Fantastic.
I don’t have words for how much I like this episode. And the ending be where Khan and Kirk go back in time.
I wonder if Tendi’s ancestor was as peppy as her?
Personally, I think Tendi's peppy attitude is her act of rebellion against her family
@weldonwin Good point!
Hughie's in Star Trek now? Nice.
Whoever came up with ‘just don’t look’ deserves an Oscar! Hilarious!
Loved this!!
I wana see Boimz and Mariner being on Voyager that'll be fun...meeting Seven of Nine while shes still figuring out Humanity and Humor. Mariner leaves her with a Joke she couldnt figure out.
Then dacedes later meets Captain Seven of Nine of Enterprise G. This time Mariner gets pranked by the captain and she now knows the punchline of the Joke.😅
One thing I didn't quite get about this episode is that there wasn't any interference from temporal agents. You'd think a temporal incursion into the history of the U.S.S Enterprise would be a really huge deal. I mean they investigated Sisko, and his entire crew did substantially less damage to the timelime than just Boimler alone, let alone Mariner.
We'll probably see them on episode one of Lower Decks in September.
Cause that was the whole deal, remember the convo at the start on the ceritos? That whole temporal incident was SUPPOSED to happen. It always went that way. Think about it, if Boimler wasn't there, Pike would've fired before hailing, before finding out it's an Orien science vessel and would've killed Tendi's great-great grandma. Which means Tendi wouldn't have been there to pull Boimler out of the fire in previous LD episodes. Even if he didn't do that 'make fun of myself to stop mutated-spider-Tendi' thing then his personality would've been different when he time travelled and things would've gone wrong. Plus he wouldn't have gotten the character development we like.
Essentially, they aren't investigating because it was a scripted event.
@@tanepukenga1421 In the DS9 episode I mentioned, its established that temporal agents hate predestination paradoxes. I think they probably would have investigated the matter with more urgency because of that.
@@euterpe55 Unfortunately not onscreen, but they did have a quick "that thing we're not supposed to talk about".
Pike: ideas?
Boimler raises his hand
Pike: not *you*
Boimler: fair.
At [0:30] I'm flashing back to Matt Smith's _Doctor Who_ working under the console while sitting in a sling seat. 😁