You must be a Millennial then only a smooth brain would think that is a line worthy of praise. Then again when a whole generation has turned out to be trash maybe that should their tag line
Pretty sure the ship's narrative irony sensors burned out when she said that. You can't really burn down your own career on a whim and then complain about what you've done with your life.
I like the subtlety on the Orion captain's face. He hears that his people won't always be pirates. He likely long accepted that he will never be seen as anything but an Orion pirate and was given the greatest gift he could have received in being told Orions will eventually escape that stigma.
@@hfar_in_the_sky the Canadian actor did a great job with the character. Been a fan of his since ReGenesis 2004, thats if you like ultra mellow Canadian drama.
@@CommanderZoom Not just credit...but official ACKNOWLEDGEMENT that there is more to the Orions than denigrating stereotypes. To be taken SERIOUSLY as scientists...
"They put that on the poster?" delivery killed me. Everything Number One has been through in trying to prove herself in Starfleet, the affirmation she must've felt in that moment. Beautifully acted by Romijn
And yet even during their time, genetically modified people are still persecuted. Julian Bashir was almost kicked out of Starfleet because of it. Unless the law changed between DS9 and Lower Decks, she's sadly just being used as a token.
It was a double whamy for Boimler as he got a wink and a smile from Number 1 right before that. I also loved the expression on Mariner's face when Spock said that.
I don’t even have streaming and only saw ep1 season1 on CZcams. I am going through all the clips. Never even watched Lower Decks. But I know good when I see it.
@rafaeloda Same here - wasn't overly keen on it, and only watched the first 2 episodes. Now having seen this one, I think that I will have to give it another go... 😊
He felt a bit creepy saying it, which is in-character for him. But it makes it better knowing that the two actors are married in real life so they can jest at each other in-universe.
It is his delivery. Just like if you look at Anson in the background of the episode that aired last week(July 13), Anson with his reactions are hysterical
He's like the put-upon dad whose teenage kids keep bringing more and more friends over for a sleep over. And while for the most part the friends are polite, its still chaotic for his tastes (Boys all brought their laptops for late night gaming and are all cursing for getting killed, girls are screaming and playing Taylor Swift karaoke) and he's looking forward to getting back to his evening routine of calm-ish stuff. "Awww, guys! It was fun!" "Yeah, I wish it would never end." "Oooo, we still have a day off tom-." "Just, NO...!"
@@JunkPhuJP THIS, this is it exactly. This is Pikes defining trait as a Captain. Kirk was the Charming Rogue, Sisko the Warrior, Picard the Stoic Philosopher, and Pike the Dad Who Just Wants a Quiet Beer and I am here for it 🤣🤣🤣
Ransom calling Una to hottest first officer is so great! Love how they worked in a way for Jerry O Connells character to call his real life wife hot in universe.
My personal favorite scene is when they mention that D'Vanna is their friend and an Orion officer/ scientist and is also known as "Mistress of the Winter Constellation " and the orion captain is freaking out. The final kicker is when Boimler asks " her name is Tendi" and the captain is just flabbergasted.
@@bishop51807 Given this information, it seems quite possible that Tendi's family only very recently got into piracy. Given the name, they might have been explorers of the stars at first and maybe that's why Tendi is extremely sensitive about it since it might be just her father and her that were but now, that's all anyone knows her family for.
@@benwasserman8223 Not only that, but the title is so bad-ass that it's mere mention causes Orions to stop, listen, and pay attention. And it's inter-generational.
@@bishop51807 Beta canon indicates that Orion civilization is actually super old, like has risen to be a great power and crashed into fallen failed states several times. So you could have a bunch of bloodlines of Orion dynasties that no longer have anything to rule over, but still remember being royalty. To say nothing about intimidating titles from the Orion Syndicate. Just more eloquent and flowery than just being called Scarface.
0:59 that wink Una gave Boimler in the end was so heartwarming. 🥰😍 and how he reacted to that thinking: "OMG I just got a wink from Starfleet's postergirl." 🤩
Twice has the Vulcan salute choked me up...the first was when Sarek struggled to say it to Picard for the last time in Unification, and now this one. When the Lower Decks theme started and Boimler was left speechless...oh man, the feels
Spock's "Live long and Prosper" to Kirk during the his death scene in "The Wrath of Khan". I've seen it countless times over the last 40 years, but it breaks me every time.
@@daynechastant Helped that they brought Jonathan Frakes to helm the episode. Since he was in Lower Decks, he knows how to roll in that side of the franchise.
Everything in this scene screamed happiness. Una learning how cherished she is in the future, Boilmer getting vulcan salute from Spock, Mariner being totally stocked for her friend knowing how much it means to him even the Orion learning his people will start to move beyond what they are known for. Just allround such a feel good scene
Ransom: Boimler receiving the Vulcan salute from Spock. Shax: He. must be living the dream. T'Ana: Wish Tendi could've receive the salute. T'Lyn: Receiving a Vulcan Salute from Spock is honorable. Durga: Yes, indeed. But I can't help off seeing Spock smiling and laughing.
My great grandma is legendary in my family. I inherited her name and the ceramic rooster she gifted to her daughter and then to her daughter’s daughter and etc. I’d be proud to meet her, just like Boimler with his heroes.
Imagine the mess if it had been Tendi and Rutherford that had stepped through. An Orion ensign and a cyborg thats a walking temporal anachronism with his tech and his programmed abilities....
@@spiralx6249 Its a running gag in Lower decks that theres a cosmic koala bear that the universe rests upon Characters who die, or have been really close to death mention it + that one guy who ascended to a higher plane of existence screamed out in terror about it
The REAL Temporal Prime Directive: "Starfleet Officers who time travel back to the Enterprise in the 23rd Century must resist any and all urges to bang Spock and/or Uhura." Guess who failed which. ;)
I’m honestly surprised neither one was given a Vulcan nerve pinch… (But then … likely if Boimler got it, would’ve had him gush about it after he came to).
at the beginning of the clip, Spock delivering the sphere to Mr Boimler, that is so great even if it happens in the background, every little detail of this episode is so satisfying :D
0:20 - 0:45 Would've been nice to hear the "First Contact" theme from here until around the moment Boimler mentions "Ad Astra per Aspera," since the theme is the unofficial Starfleet anthem which also best reflects "to the stars through difficulties" motto 🖖🖖
Iunno, if you listen where Boimler starts saying "Ad Astra," it plays a slowed down version of *the* Star trek leitmotif. The one that's kicks off the TOS/TNG/SNW theme, ends the new series' star trek logos, and were the opening notes of Prodigy episode 1. not to say that the FC theme is bad or anything, but I think this is a good way to musically affirm that Una is starfleet through and through.
I wonder if they planed this crossover all along, since they selected actors that actually could also play their characters. Usually it's not uncommon for voice actors to be older or not even the same gender, since some are extremely good at creating different voices. Also they speak usually different in animated series. Tawny Newsome is certainly at least a decade older than Mariner is supposed to be, but it still was totally fine. I also liked, that they adjusted their voices a little to let them sound more like a "real" person.
The trend nowadays is for voice actors to roughly match the ethnicity and likeness of the character they are playing (if they're human). It's the new PC environment created by accusations of "cultural appropriation" whitewashing and all that. So it's not that surprising that they happened to be perfect for the transition. The height difference is weird though; Ransom and Shaxs would be huge because they tower over Boimler and Mariner.
From what I've heard they intentionally designed the characters to look similar to their VAs in the chance that one day they'd be used in a live-action episode. Though not necessarily SNW.
@@Fletchman1313 To be fair, Ransom (O'Connel) is actually taller than Boimler(Quaid) irl... not by much, but the cartoon could be explained away as exaggerating their heights. No idea on Shax, though I'm guessing he's not that tall XD
@@3Rayfire XD I mean, I wouldn't even care about the heights as long as they're the rough equivalent of what their characters look like. I was not prepared for how on the nose Mariner and Boimler were XD
I love the understated but authentic and grown up: "It was good to meet you Captain" from Mariner as they're about to go back. I don't know if that's script or Tawny ad-libbing but it is just another one of those small but significant touches.....
Strange new worlds is the best Star Trek show rigth now alongside Picard season 3 . I hope in the future the franchise continues with this kinds of stories 🖖🖖🖖 .
@@Cowcow211 Picard Season 3 should really be its own separate series, like a mini-series. While the season was excellent, I would agree that Picard was "trash", as you described it (and I think you're going easy on them.) There was no saving the first two seasons, there was nothing that could redeem the series as a whole.
@@Cowcow211 Have to agree, the whole thing was full of plot holes and temporal paradoxes. As for resurrecting the Enterprise D, that filled me with disgust at it's stupidity. How did Geordie KNOW to rework it so a handful of people could run that massive ship??? And to be blunt, the ST:TNG cast are way too old to be believable. As Kirk said in ST2, Gallivanting around the cosmos is a game for the young. And he was absolutely right, Patrick Stewart looked like he was ready to keel over any second. The whole series was trash and an obvious effort to milk a dead cow. Only Jeri Ryan looked like she was in her prime.
@@spilchsaysstuff1427 And at least PIC S2 had some interesting ideas even if it failed to craft a good story with them. S3 just made me wish I was watching all of the better episodes and movies that it lifted all its ideas from instead.
@@Varekai0723 Might be possible, since the artists made the animated characters resemble the actors voicing them. But Jerry O'Connel will need a hair dye at the very least, Eugene Cordero might be a bit too buff to compared to Rutherford so they''ll need a costume that hides that, and Gillian Vigman will need a lot of prosthetics.
I always thought Boimler’s hair color was an art style choice to make him stand out more. But it’s still purple in live action. Does he have alien dna in him? He doesn’t strike me as someone who dyes his hair.
He does dye his hair. There's a line in the bit where they're going through his personal logs to see if they can use them to exonerate carol in her trial over the Pakled bombing where he mentions it.
@@theyux1 Hey computer, replicate me some purple hair gel that lasts a month and takes a minute to apply Yeah when you can assemble shit molecule by molecule it'd be dead easy to come up with dream formulas that do incredible things
1:20 Okay, to be _totally_ fair to Boimler, I think most folks in Starfleet would be stumbling over their words at that moment. It's Spock, for the Great Bird's sake!
That is very true. Though they could get the guy that voiced Ambassador Spock for Star Trek: Resurgence, if they did. He was so spot on, I thought it was an AI generated voiceover from sound sampling.
From the Johnson County website: "Ad astra per aspera is a Latin phrase meaning "through hardships to the stars." It's on our state flag and, perhaps, a feeling deeply ingrained in each of us who call Kansas home"
I really don't enjoy the "regular" episodes. So many inconsistencies and plot holes and tech that doesn't make sense for the time period--but when they drop all the pretense and just go over the top on not being serious at all: it is amazing. The episode where they all sing is also one of my favorites and i've watched this one a couple times.
Spock told Boims "Live long, and prosper." and next thing Boimeboy got promotion, and started leading his own teams. Guy just needed that little confidence boost.
Meanwhile, in the 29th century, aboard the Timeship Relativity: "Dammit Enterprise, yes the original, has done it *again* with the temporal violations! Do you even *know* how many temporal incursions they caused this time?!?!"
I think that lower decks also modernizes the show's design aesthetics while making the transition seamless. If you look at the UI and everything, it definitely has a lot more contemporary design considerations, especially their tablets. I think there are definitely ways to gracefully ease contemporary tastes into the outdated designs. The biggest critique I have with the new trek design aesthetics is that in 20-30 years or whatever the same level of ageing will be felt by viewers as TNG and TOS seem to us today. TNG radically departed from the TOS aesthetic, but it was also set in the future from the TOS, and ENT made an effort to make the design seem really old. I really think that the design in the TNG era really nailed the timeless look that can be adapted endlessly. I'm a graphic designer, and basically from 1960 to today we have been directly influenced by "high modernism" defined by designers like Massimo Vignelli. Every contemporary designer either directly uses those ideas, or reject them purposely. What makes it so long lasting and ubiquitous is that the framework is so neutral that you can pretty much apply different aesthetic vaneers and still have a robust and useable design. The same I think, can be said for the TNG design considerations. The use of the thin horizontal and thick vertical design elements is pretty much the only defining characteristic of the UI. Colors, as we've seen, can be swapped out and changed while maintaining the style. The very little use of icons also comes in handy, because typography is basically timeless. Futura for example was designed in like the 1920s and yet it looks modern and futuristic to this day. Books are still typeset in Baskerville even tho it was designed in the 1700s. So just words and the thick/thin design motifs allows for a huge flexibility with graphics. You can start incorporating more dynamic imagery like photos and more dynamic vector illustrations that weren't in former shows, but have it look in place. As far as bridge design goes, it looks to be a classic reproduction of TNG era bridge design, which tbh isnt the most modern looking bridge designs, but I think it took some good liberties in deviating from the Enterprise-D 70s bank/waiting room aesthetic. I think the new live actions, especially set around or before the time of TOS could be willing to have more buttons and paired down screens with graphics and I think it would look 20 times better. Idk about carpets, but wood paneling would probably look great too
Lower Decks is amazing. It's a total love letter to the franchise - the amount of deep-cut references is absurd. And Strange New Worlds is absurdly good. It hits it out of the park every single week.
And one embarrassing confession... Until this ep... I never put it together (though I know I could have googled it)... Jack Quaid is the son of two famous actors...
"You meet your heroes, and then you think 'what have I done with my life, I am trash, right?'" Is my favorite line of Mariners in this episode.
You must be a Millennial then only a smooth brain would think that is a line worthy of praise. Then again when a whole generation has turned out to be trash maybe that should their tag line
huge "i just wanted a picture! you can't disappoint a picture!" vibes btw
@@PanConQueso001 Troy meeting LeVar Burton in Community was brilliant. 😂
Mariner: I want to meet Zefram Cochrane, when he's totally drunk. Then I will feel better.
Pretty sure the ship's narrative irony sensors burned out when she said that. You can't really burn down your own career on a whim and then complain about what you've done with your life.
I like the subtlety on the Orion captain's face. He hears that his people won't always be pirates. He likely long accepted that he will never be seen as anything but an Orion pirate and was given the greatest gift he could have received in being told Orions will eventually escape that stigma.
But only if the ladies let their pheromones point the way...
It will be interesting to see if they make future appearances.
i was expecting the orion captain to jump through himself
It’s a shame Tendi didn’t make a live action appearance.
@@QuantaSolace doing a quick Google, all 4 of them could easily play their live action selves.
“It’s all I’ve ever wanted.” Just that being said with a twinge of sadness in his voice, makes that ending just that much more emotional.
Right? Like that one line makes me want to know SO much more about this Orion captain
@@hfar_in_the_sky the Canadian actor did a great job with the character. Been a fan of his since ReGenesis 2004, thats if you like ultra mellow Canadian drama.
It's very Star Trek, that there's a peaceful diplomatic solution, and VERY LD, that it's about someone getting academic credit.
@@CommanderZoom Not just credit...but official ACKNOWLEDGEMENT that there is more to the Orions than denigrating stereotypes. To be taken SERIOUSLY as scientists...
@@al28854 My God, it's a canadian actor! I genuinely thought it looked like Rupert Friend!
"They put that on the poster?" delivery killed me. Everything Number One has been through in trying to prove herself in Starfleet, the affirmation she must've felt in that moment. Beautifully acted by Romijn
Ad astra per aspera, -> "through hardships to the stars."
@@thisisme2476I thought that the English translation was “to the stars with hope.”
@@ilttpvvm Guessing there are more than one translations.
I looked it up in my old (30 years) school book
And yet even during their time, genetically modified people are still persecuted. Julian Bashir was almost kicked out of Starfleet because of it. Unless the law changed between DS9 and Lower Decks, she's sadly just being used as a token.
Spock telling Boimler to “live long and prosper” was probably the biggest badge of honor for Boimler.
He would then be promoted to lieutenant junior grade and die on Corazonia.
He got better, though.
Boimler earned it….
It was a double whamy for Boimler as he got a wink and a smile from Number 1 right before that. I also loved the expression on Mariner's face when Spock said that.
"I... you... I... also... live...and..."
🖖😮
I also love how Pike gives Spock a look of knowing, that's he's putting it on to make him feel good lol
Love Una's reaction when she finds out 'They put that on the poster.'
That makes me tear up every time.
That references S2E2 episode, titled, “Ad Astra per Aspera”
@@terryt.1643yep.
@@w9gb "Through Struggle, The Stars"?🤨🤔
Coincidentally it's also the title of a pretty kick-ass hard sci-fi novel by John Lumpkin.
To the stars, through hardship.
This episode had no business being as epic as it was. Like seriously good.
a lot of movie ideas end up becoming tv episodes. and i agree. in fact, i wonder if it was the best one yet.
A friend disliked lower decks, now he is binging on it. 🖖
@@rafaeloda I didn't think much of it at first, but gave it another try and finished it in a matter of days.
I don’t even have streaming and only saw ep1 season1 on CZcams. I am going through all the clips. Never even watched Lower Decks. But I know good when I see it.
@rafaeloda Same here - wasn't overly keen on it, and only watched the first 2 episodes. Now having seen this one, I think that I will have to give it another go... 😊
Am I the only one who wants to see more of "real life" Boimler and Mariner?
Yeah, they nailed their real-life characters perfectly.
Yeah, for sure!
Incredibly well realized performances.
And the others too! Most of them look close enough to their characters...
Only if they or who we are seeing with stop getting drunk on orion booze 24/7
4:11
That moment you realise Ransom complimented his real life wife. 👌
Reminds me of that time his wife was watching over a bunch of librarians...
Oh my God. I had no idea!
He felt a bit creepy saying it, which is in-character for him.
But it makes it better knowing that the two actors are married in real life so they can jest at each other in-universe.
@@safebox36 definitely.
Gotta add, Ransom is Sheldon Coopers Brother
For some reason Pike yelling “Just NO!” cracks me up.
It is his delivery. Just like if you look at Anson in the background of the episode that aired last week(July 13), Anson with his reactions are hysterical
He's like the put-upon dad whose teenage kids keep bringing more and more friends over for a sleep over. And while for the most part the friends are polite, its still chaotic for his tastes (Boys all brought their laptops for late night gaming and are all cursing for getting killed, girls are screaming and playing Taylor Swift karaoke) and he's looking forward to getting back to his evening routine of calm-ish stuff.
"Awww, guys! It was fun!"
"Yeah, I wish it would never end."
"Oooo, we still have a day off tom-."
"Just, NO...!"
He was so over it and them at that point.
@@JunkPhuJP THIS, this is it exactly. This is Pikes defining trait as a Captain. Kirk was the Charming Rogue, Sisko the Warrior, Picard the Stoic Philosopher, and Pike the Dad Who Just Wants a Quiet Beer and I am here for it 🤣🤣🤣
Ransom calling Una to hottest first officer is so great! Love how they worked in a way for Jerry O Connells character to call his real life wife hot in universe.
well, it is something Ransom would say
My personal favorite scene is when they mention that D'Vanna is their friend and an Orion officer/ scientist and is also known as "Mistress of the Winter Constellation " and the orion captain is freaking out. The final kicker is when Boimler asks " her name is Tendi" and the captain is just flabbergasted.
I guess the title is just passed down in Tendi's family.
@@benwasserman8223 yeah I didn't know Pirates treated their bloodlines like kings and queens.
@@bishop51807 Given this information, it seems quite possible that Tendi's family only very recently got into piracy. Given the name, they might have been explorers of the stars at first and maybe that's why Tendi is extremely sensitive about it since it might be just her father and her that were but now, that's all anyone knows her family for.
@@benwasserman8223 Not only that, but the title is so bad-ass that it's mere mention causes Orions to stop, listen, and pay attention. And it's inter-generational.
@@bishop51807 Beta canon indicates that Orion civilization is actually super old, like has risen to be a great power and crashed into fallen failed states several times. So you could have a bunch of bloodlines of Orion dynasties that no longer have anything to rule over, but still remember being royalty. To say nothing about intimidating titles from the Orion Syndicate. Just more eloquent and flowery than just being called Scarface.
Well, that was a strangely, but expectedly, heart warming ending
This episode and frankly the experience blew me away.
I like the slight smile Pike shows when Spock salutes Boimler . He knows how special it is to receive that level of respect from Spock.
0:59 that wink Una gave Boimler in the end was so heartwarming. 🥰😍 and how he reacted to that thinking: "OMG I just got a wink from Starfleet's postergirl." 🤩
And then he gets a "Live Long and Prosper" from Spock that leaves him speechless for a double whammy.
I agree, she is so cute
La'an's deadpan "It's true, it's their fault" kills me every time. She is so over it.
And Pike's nodding in agreement with her statement is the capper.
Twice has the Vulcan salute choked me up...the first was when Sarek struggled to say it to Picard for the last time in Unification, and now this one. When the Lower Decks theme started and Boimler was left speechless...oh man, the feels
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Spock's "Live long and Prosper" to Kirk during the his death scene in "The Wrath of Khan". I've seen it countless times over the last 40 years, but it breaks me every time.
Not to get all technical. But as Boimler salutes spock he is beamed down. As he gets re-constituted on the surface, his hand and arm are down.
I never would have guessed that we would get a Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds cross over episode.
Or that it would be done so well. This is a landmark episode with everything working. Even Pike's crew drinking together was great.
@@daynechastant Helped that they brought Jonathan Frakes to helm the episode. Since he was in Lower Decks, he knows how to roll in that side of the franchise.
Strangely, EVERYTHING about that episode is GOLDEN. I have thourouly enjoyed it.
That crossover was a success from my POV.
Argh! Getting a wink from Number One and a Vulcan salute from Spock is so bloody cool! Boimler must've been nerding out in his head at that point.
Everything in this scene screamed happiness. Una learning how cherished she is in the future, Boilmer getting vulcan salute from Spock, Mariner being totally stocked for her friend knowing how much it means to him even the Orion learning his people will start to move beyond what they are known for. Just allround such a feel good scene
0:27 that look she gives when she says "they put that on the poster?" Shivers....
I watched this episode twice, and now I’ve watched a few clips from it, and it just gets better every time I watch it.
If Spock did the thing🖖 to me, I’d probably cry happy tears
“She does also goes by ‘the Mistress of the Winter Constellations’”
That twinge of fear at the title in his face.
1:11 Mariner: Dude! Dude! He said the thing!
Ransom: Boimler receiving the Vulcan salute from Spock.
Shax: He. must be living the dream.
T'Ana: Wish Tendi could've receive the salute.
T'Lyn: Receiving a Vulcan Salute from Spock is honorable.
Durga: Yes, indeed. But I can't help off seeing Spock smiling and laughing.
My great grandma is legendary in my family. I inherited her name and the ceramic rooster she gifted to her daughter and then to her daughter’s daughter and etc. I’d be proud to meet her, just like Boimler with his heroes.
My favorite detail may be how happy Mariner was for Boimler on the "Live long and prosper," knowing what it'd mean to him.
Ikr. Those 2 have their spats but they are closer than siblings.
If there ever is a video game with SNW cast in it they better give Pike near max diplomacy skills
Personally i think its a crime that there is so few Star Trek RPG games
Actually there is a Lower Decks game on Android...
@@Fydron Mophidious has a tabletop Star Trek RPG and one of the sourcebooks for the game is a Lower Decks centric book.
Imagine the mess if it had been Tendi and Rutherford that had stepped through. An Orion ensign and a cyborg thats a walking temporal anachronism with his tech and his programmed abilities....
It’s a nice idea but Boimler’s freakish fanboying (and Mariner’s sheer carelessness) just seems a lot more chaotic
Una's wink makes it work!
I was amused by the silhouette of what I call the "Cosmic Koala Bear" that was pictured during the opening credits.
Yes. What was THAT about?
Lower decks canonized the universe being on the back of a giant koala
@@spiralx6249The Koala is God.
@@spiralx6249 Its a running gag in Lower decks that theres a cosmic koala bear that the universe rests upon
Characters who die, or have been really close to death mention it
+ that one guy who ascended to a higher plane of existence screamed out in terror about it
@@svendbf2468 WHY IS HE SMILING?!?!?! WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!?!?!
Now imagine live action Boimler saying: “YOUR SHIPS SMELL LIKE AAAAAAAASS!”
YOU KEEP TRAPPING PEOPLE INSIDE OF GAMES! STOP TRAPPING PEOPLE INSIDE GAMES!
Amazing show , crazy crossover and this really closes the circle.
This episode was just ALL of the feels 😊
I love the line from Khan's progeny... "It's their fault"
I adore how aggressively serious to the point of being hilarious La'an is.
@@3Rayfire Very accurate assessment
Spock: "Live long and prosper, Mr Boimler!!"
Boimler: "May you also live long and prosp....NANU NANU!!" 🖖🖖
The REAL Temporal Prime Directive: "Starfleet Officers who time travel back to the Enterprise in the 23rd Century must resist any and all urges to bang Spock and/or Uhura." Guess who failed which. ;)
@@katherineberger6329 😄😃🖖
@@katherineberger6329Both?
Imagine if Mariner does the sarcastic vulcan salute in front of Spock.
I’m honestly surprised neither one was given a Vulcan nerve pinch…
(But then … likely if Boimler got it, would’ve had him gush about it after he came to).
Love that final wink.❤
at the beginning of the clip, Spock delivering the sphere to Mr Boimler, that is so great even if it happens in the background, every little detail of this episode is so satisfying :D
"he doesn't listen," and Pike's agonized "NO!!" 😂
0:20 - 0:45 Would've been nice to hear the "First Contact" theme from here until around the moment Boimler mentions "Ad Astra per Aspera," since the theme is the unofficial Starfleet anthem which also best reflects "to the stars through difficulties" motto 🖖🖖
Iunno, if you listen where Boimler starts saying "Ad Astra," it plays a slowed down version of *the* Star trek leitmotif. The one that's kicks off the TOS/TNG/SNW theme, ends the new series' star trek logos, and were the opening notes of Prodigy episode 1.
not to say that the FC theme is bad or anything, but I think this is a good way to musically affirm that Una is starfleet through and through.
I would go with the Generations theme actually, since to me it's the official theme of Star Trek across well...y'know.
I wonder if they planed this crossover all along, since they selected actors that actually could also play their characters. Usually it's not uncommon for voice actors to be older or not even the same gender, since some are extremely good at creating different voices. Also they speak usually different in animated series.
Tawny Newsome is certainly at least a decade older than Mariner is supposed to be, but it still was totally fine. I also liked, that they adjusted their voices a little to let them sound more like a "real" person.
The trend nowadays is for voice actors to roughly match the ethnicity and likeness of the character they are playing (if they're human). It's the new PC environment created by accusations of "cultural appropriation" whitewashing and all that. So it's not that surprising that they happened to be perfect for the transition. The height difference is weird though; Ransom and Shaxs would be huge because they tower over Boimler and Mariner.
From what I've heard they intentionally designed the characters to look similar to their VAs in the chance that one day they'd be used in a live-action episode. Though not necessarily SNW.
@@Fletchman1313 To be fair, Ransom (O'Connel) is actually taller than Boimler(Quaid) irl... not by much, but the cartoon could be explained away as exaggerating their heights. No idea on Shax, though I'm guessing he's not that tall XD
@@arishiakoneko It wouldn't matter as long as he's that wide. Fred Tatasciore is 6'1".
@@3Rayfire XD I mean, I wouldn't even care about the heights as long as they're the rough equivalent of what their characters look like. I was not prepared for how on the nose Mariner and Boimler were XD
I know Trials and Tribble-ations set a cheesy high bar for unorthodox Trek crossovers. But this episode more than surpassed the bar.
Either way, it's Gouda
They did have the advantage, of concurrent productions. Trials is a miracle for Forest Gumping an entire episode with archival footage.
I love the understated but authentic and grown up: "It was good to meet you Captain" from Mariner as they're about to go back. I don't know if that's script or Tawny ad-libbing but it is just another one of those small but significant touches.....
Strange new worlds is the best Star Trek show rigth now alongside Picard season 3 . I hope in the future the franchise continues with this kinds of stories 🖖🖖🖖 .
Picard was trash and Season 3 was them putting a life reserver on a dead show because they had nothing to lose.
@@Cowcow211 Picard Season 3 should really be its own separate series, like a mini-series. While the season was excellent, I would agree that Picard was "trash", as you described it (and I think you're going easy on them.) There was no saving the first two seasons, there was nothing that could redeem the series as a whole.
@@Cowcow211 Have to agree, the whole thing was full of plot holes and temporal paradoxes. As for resurrecting the Enterprise D, that filled me with disgust at it's stupidity. How did Geordie KNOW to rework it so a handful of people could run that massive ship???
And to be blunt, the ST:TNG cast are way too old to be believable. As Kirk said in ST2, Gallivanting around the cosmos is a game for the young.
And he was absolutely right, Patrick Stewart looked like he was ready to keel over any second.
The whole series was trash and an obvious effort to milk a dead cow. Only Jeri Ryan looked like she was in her prime.
@@johnfisher9692Those Old Scientists was a loving tribute to Star Trek. Picard Season 3 was nostalgia porn and made me feel dirty. And cheated.
@@spilchsaysstuff1427 And at least PIC S2 had some interesting ideas even if it failed to craft a good story with them. S3 just made me wish I was watching all of the better episodes and movies that it lifted all its ideas from instead.
Thru hardship, to the stars. 🙂
This episode was SOOO good.
We now need a full live action episode of Lower Decks
You know it will happen. You could see everyone in this episode was having a blast.
That would be very expensive to build all those sets though. Plus you would have to hire an entire crew for a live action show.
I concur.
@@Varekai0723just fancy up the SNW sets
@@Varekai0723 Might be possible, since the artists made the animated characters resemble the actors voicing them. But Jerry O'Connel will need a hair dye at the very least, Eugene Cordero might be a bit too buff to compared to Rutherford so they''ll need a costume that hides that, and Gillian Vigman will need a lot of prosthetics.
I was almost expecting Boimler to be a descendant of Una’s. I think that would have explained his awkwardness around her better.
It's like having a bunch of kids let loose on a starship and they are meant to be in command 😂😂
I always thought Boimler’s hair color was an art style choice to make him stand out more. But it’s still purple in live action. Does he have alien dna in him? He doesn’t strike me as someone who dyes his hair.
He does dye his hair. There's a line in the bit where they're going through his personal logs to see if they can use them to exonerate carol in her trial over the Pakled bombing where he mentions it.
@@psychicsaphieling must have missed it
@@psychicsaphieling Boimler doesn't look like the kind o guy to constantly dye his hair.
It's probably less of a hassle in his time. It's probably as easy as wearing a hat.
@@theyux1 Hey computer, replicate me some purple hair gel that lasts a month and takes a minute to apply
Yeah when you can assemble shit molecule by molecule it'd be dead easy to come up with dream formulas that do incredible things
1:20 Okay, to be _totally_ fair to Boimler, I think most folks in Starfleet would be stumbling over their words at that moment. It's Spock, for the Great Bird's sake!
These are my most favorite episodes in Strange New World.
WHAT AN INSANELY GOOD EPISODE HOLY HELL I'M IN TEARS THE ORION CAPTAIN AHHHH
Feels like I waited forever for this episode. It was more than I wanted out of it. So good :-)
I literally always get the chill when the guy is like "how do you know that name"
Bradward mumbling…”You also live…” I split my side laughing so hard!
This Pike is like a combo of Kirk and Picard. The actor does a great job.
Older Spock has still not gone through the Romulan Black Hole so he could still meet him in Boim's present time - in animated form, voiced by Peck.
That is very true. Though they could get the guy that voiced Ambassador Spock for Star Trek: Resurgence, if they did. He was so spot on, I thought it was an AI generated voiceover from sound sampling.
From the future, this entire episode is so good! Simply amazing period.
From the Johnson County website: "Ad astra per aspera is a Latin phrase meaning "through hardships to the stars." It's on our state flag and, perhaps, a feeling deeply ingrained in each of us who call Kansas home"
I really don't enjoy the "regular" episodes. So many inconsistencies and plot holes and tech that doesn't make sense for the time period--but when they drop all the pretense and just go over the top on not being serious at all: it is amazing. The episode where they all sing is also one of my favorites and i've watched this one a couple times.
As a big Tendi fan I’d love to see her actress.
Love how they just randomly start giving LD style dialogue in the middle of the scene as if the SNW crew aren't there
Those winks are going around. Love it!
This was such a great idea and storyline. Love this episode!
Spock told Boims "Live long, and prosper." and next thing Boimeboy got promotion, and started leading his own teams. Guy just needed that little confidence boost.
Meanwhile, in the 29th century, aboard the Timeship Relativity: "Dammit Enterprise, yes the original, has done it *again* with the temporal violations! Do you even *know* how many temporal incursions they caused this time?!?!"
Loved this episode SO MUCH.
I just love the episode.
Pure Science Fiction Gold !
those two are just like us,fanbois!
It is beginning to bug me how the animated series is a more authentic recreation of their era's look than the big budget tv shows
Probably because you can draw sets once and save the money for the GOOD writers.
I think that lower decks also modernizes the show's design aesthetics while making the transition seamless. If you look at the UI and everything, it definitely has a lot more contemporary design considerations, especially their tablets.
I think there are definitely ways to gracefully ease contemporary tastes into the outdated designs. The biggest critique I have with the new trek design aesthetics is that in 20-30 years or whatever the same level of ageing will be felt by viewers as TNG and TOS seem to us today. TNG radically departed from the TOS aesthetic, but it was also set in the future from the TOS, and ENT made an effort to make the design seem really old.
I really think that the design in the TNG era really nailed the timeless look that can be adapted endlessly.
I'm a graphic designer, and basically from 1960 to today we have been directly influenced by "high modernism" defined by designers like Massimo Vignelli. Every contemporary designer either directly uses those ideas, or reject them purposely. What makes it so long lasting and ubiquitous is that the framework is so neutral that you can pretty much apply different aesthetic vaneers and still have a robust and useable design.
The same I think, can be said for the TNG design considerations. The use of the thin horizontal and thick vertical design elements is pretty much the only defining characteristic of the UI. Colors, as we've seen, can be swapped out and changed while maintaining the style. The very little use of icons also comes in handy, because typography is basically timeless. Futura for example was designed in like the 1920s and yet it looks modern and futuristic to this day. Books are still typeset in Baskerville even tho it was designed in the 1700s. So just words and the thick/thin design motifs allows for a huge flexibility with graphics. You can start incorporating more dynamic imagery like photos and more dynamic vector illustrations that weren't in former shows, but have it look in place.
As far as bridge design goes, it looks to be a classic reproduction of TNG era bridge design, which tbh isnt the most modern looking bridge designs, but I think it took some good liberties in deviating from the Enterprise-D 70s bank/waiting room aesthetic.
I think the new live actions, especially set around or before the time of TOS could be willing to have more buttons and paired down screens with graphics and I think it would look 20 times better. Idk about carpets, but wood paneling would probably look great too
1:08
Spock: Live long and prosper, Mr Boimler
Boimler: I'll... You also live and...
I: OMG OMG OMG
This series is how you remake a time honored classic correctly.
best episode ever in a long time
This is so awesome.
Jayne Cobb: I'll be in my bunk
having never watched either series, I can say this was very entertaining.
Lower Decks is amazing. It's a total love letter to the franchise - the amount of deep-cut references is absurd.
And Strange New Worlds is absurdly good. It hits it out of the park every single week.
Wow, I really gave up on modern Star Trek. But this crossover made me smile. I guess I have to give it a try again.
All it takes is a showrunner and writing team who clearly care about what makes Star Trek the beloved series it's meant to be.
Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds are really good shows.
@@randygrundstrom6832 No. They are okay.
Wow... 😮 I didn't know! Thank you. Can't wait to see the whole thing. 😍
On twitter I saw people many people who remarked how much they liked Lower Decks and Prodigy. 😊
I basically screamed through the entire episode because otherwise I wouldn't have survived how awesome I found it❤ it was an absolute gift
2:08 - These two are from the future
And they're cartoons
The quiet “hi” gets me
Someday captain boimler We need to make it happen
It’s nice to see the live action version of Star Trek Lower Decks
Those two need to return in another episode. This isn’t a request.
Not going to happen.
Pike saying "just... Nooooo" 3:14 😂😂😂😂
the Orion Captain was great
This tell us that "sometimes" changing a little the past is how history supose to go.
This was such a great scene
Jesus christ this looks amazing....
Hearing the Lower Decks theme is cool
Gotta love the Lower Deckers
And one embarrassing confession... Until this ep... I never put it together (though I know I could have googled it)... Jack Quaid is the son of two famous actors...
The Orian Captain and his crew must be in other shows. One of the best shows yet
Freaking happy tears for this scene
Star Trek SNW and lower deck are the prooves that Star Trek TV show can be done well
I love SNW. I hope they start producing new episodes ASAP.