If i had a nickel for every time a sapphic lady in starfleet went back in time and was surprised by how hot spock was when he was younger, id have two nickels. Which isnt a lot, but its weird that it happened twice
@@daniels7907 The events are probably labelled exactly like the episode titles. They did once refer to a Ferengi acting stereotypically Fergengi-ish as a "Last Outpost throwback". Not mention specifically referring to two people getting merged through a transporter error as being "Tuvixed".
@@timfortune9 - There's probably an officer somewhere in Starfleet whose job is to name and categorize these incidents - which to us are episode titles. Although I did find it very interesting that Captain Freeman had to request Janeway's logs from the curator. That implies that Starfleet hasn't distributed them to every starship computer. Probably to hide some of the things she did.
@@daniels7907 Of the weird departments Starfleet has, my favorite is that they have an Internal Affairs division dedicated solely to time travelling incidents.
@@timfortune9 - Who are *soooooo* totally not good at their jobs given the generally fast-and-loose attitude that Starfleet captains tend to have about time travel. They take the Temporal Prime Directive about as seriously as the ban on Romulan Ale.
It's the tiny little forced swagger as she walks to the table... that's physical acting in keeping with the character, but too subtle to be part of the animated show.
It's a successful running gag. The series exceeded my expectations. I wouldn't mind if they went back in time. This time with the Cerritos they end up in the past and help them against a scientist who is using time jumps.😏
@@daniels7907 That may well be, but in the pilot "The Cage" he also smiled. I suspect that he had not yet decided on the vulcan way of life at that time. And that's why it came across as a bit more emotional. It wasn't until the Kirk era that he decided to do so.✌
@@JJNotAbrams-gl1io with all the tent encampments in many major US and Canadian cities these days, sanctuary districts aren't that hard to imagine followed by riots right away.....
I mean they’re larping essentially, but at their real job in their universe. They get to live every fan’s dream, and I think that’s why this show does so well. It’s wish fulfillment but with the caveat that it’s a clear love letter to everything that fans could love about Star Trek, even to make fun of. The fact that it’s fully unashamed about it is what sells it
So was the scene in Pike's quarters where Boimler says 'Riker' while jumping on a saddle. It's said that Jonathan Frake's wife was on set and howled with laughter at the ad-lib mention of her husband's character name.
I was waiting for a reference to Spock having excellent hearing. Wouldn't be the first time he overheard a compliment from a nearby private conversation.
@@skippythealien9627, he’s wasted on this show. It’s a series of disjointed episodes, nothing connecting them, no logic, no sense. The producers are going out of their way to show the audience a lot of flash…musical, time travel, court martial…and the only connected episodes are the cliffhangers so the series doesn’t get cancelled. Discovery showed us what Pike can do, gave him a terrible destiny, and then shows precious little connected to it. The characters have tragic backstories and nothing else in common. Yes, Mariner can’t ruin the show, but only because it was already ruined before she got there. Forget believability, forget relatable. SNW managed to keep the worst elements of the original series and replace the cast w/inferior substitutes.
@@r.c.auclair2042 - The standalone stories are a deliberate choice, because some viewers criticized that contemporary serialized Trek such as Discovery could not capture the "vibe" of classic Trek's "adventure of the week" format. As for if you find the results believable or relatable, that's a separate matter and far more subjective. I think that earlier series weren't better in that regard, but felt different because the writing style was less self-aware so it came across as more cozy and sincere. While fanservice can break immersion for many.
I can't WAIT to watch this (haven't seen any of SNW yet) but while Boimler and Mariner are brilliant actors, it's funny to see the maturity gap between characters from the 1960s and the 2020s.
@@AngelusNielson terns out theres a drink called orian hericans at the end of the show it shows pike and his crew as cartoon cariters and them freaking out about it so that means lower decks takes place in the eues of mariner how is drinking orian alcahol to make everthing cartoon like i gess
Q happened. He took a little jaunt into a nearby universe and bullied a bunch of small, pastel-colored talking horses for a few millenia. Then came back and decided he liked the simpler color scheme of that universe. I'm assuming the continuum got fed up with his antics again after that, and he was forced to snap the universe back to normal some time before Picard season one. That's why he was so low on power. Snapping the entirety of a universe into a new chromatic spectrum, twice, has to be draining even for a nigh omnipotent being.
In lower decks she always seems really angry, almost as if she hates the people around her. But in this episode she seemed so fun and happy and was obviously just joking around. I think it's just the style of animation in lower decks which doesn't quite get her actual emotions across properly. But Tawny Newsome does SO well in live action.
Dropping hints about the Bell Riots... Does that count as future knowledge because of the DS9 crew, or is it okay because technically it happened in the past?
I think technically because it hasn’t happened yet for the Pike’s Star Trek crew, it would be considered future knowledge, but it’s so oddly specific that it cancels out because all you got is a name. It’s kinda similar to how in OG Star Trek when we hear Khan’s and his backstory the eugenics wars gets brought up and in the 90s the Bosnian war happened. It’s that kind of energy.
Plus, even if someone on the _Enterprise_ opened up a book and saw Bell’s photo, the most that could happen is some history geek with a thing for the 20th century (paging Ensign Marla McGivers…!) might remark how much Bell looks like the actor who once had a TV series named “Hawk”… 😊
I think the funny bit about this is the fact there all use to hearing about the calm and collecteive wise spock. But never once thought there was a time he wanted be more human, and went through a roller coaster of dealing with his past truamas an the fact he half human, and half vulcan.
I feel like the Lower Decks crew has always been a D&D style trek game in progress, but in this episode, I swear I could almost hear Brennan Lee Mulligan narrating.
....I can't tell which is more cringe, the line or your comment. you nu-trek fans are infantile and embarrassing, to match the level of writing on these shows
00:19 reference to DS9 S03E11 & S03E12 "Past Tense" Parts I & II - Sisko, Bashir, and Dax are thrown back in time by a spatial anomaly to San Francisco in the year 2024 - a dystopian city threatening to collapse under an extreme homelessness crisis. Boimler mentions the Bell Riots at 00:24, which were depicted in the aforementioned episodes.
It's amusing to me how polarizing Lower Decks is amongst fans, and I get it. It's equal parts parody and serious (?) show. I guess the most negative reactions come from the feeling that it is disrespecting the previous shows and that it is taking the viewer out of the ST world by being too meta.
Don't get me wrong I love that they are getting to meet their idol but this is a Spock at the beginning of his career. not the Federation Ambassador who got the Federation and the Klingons to sign the Khitomer Accords. or the one who tried to reunified the Vulcans and the Romulans. It would be like going back in time meeting George Washington before he became general and later President.
Hey Mariner, neither your parents nor the vast majority of your contacts have been born yet. You might want to dial it back a bit because you've got nobody to call.
....This writing is TERRIBLE, on the level of bad YA novels. sounds like it was written by and for teenagers who have never seen even five minutes of actual star trek. utter trash.
I think what I love about Lower Decks, is that we're not seeing a flagship with the best and brightest Starfleet has. The California class is where a lot of the screwups end up. This is ideal for a comedy, but it's also nice as a fan to see what other parts of the fleet look like.
the singing episode was garbage for infantilized adults, much like the rest of this trash. It all sounds like "dialogue" written for and by teenagers out of a bad YA novel.
Spock smiling reminds me on the one Scene in Big Bang theory Leonard: [to a "smiling" Sheldon] We're here to see Koothrappali, not kill Batman. Like Marina: Holy Fu(Peep)! We are here to find a way to get back to the Future,Not kill Kane Spock!!!😂
Dialogue is awesome.. but the set design of the meeting room is so offensive.. it might bring back Gene Rodenberry from the dead... it is outdated even for 1999 Ikea..
My only “dislike” about this episode is that Boimler and Mariner are like 130 years more advanced (which Boims does show later briefly) and the SNW crew acts like they picked up a couple of 20th century dumbasses. Like, I hero worship plenty of 100ish year old people too but I know a lot more about my field than anyone did in 1923, but it’s never really shown how compared to these two trained Starfleet personally from the future, they’re all like, full on dinosaurs.
I would say it's because they are still ensigns. Like all ensigns past and present, they are going to blunder around no matter what century they're from. Also, Boimler did know how to track the Orions, so there was some future knowledge there. However, without future technology all they had was theoretical.
@@cf-4233 Yeah I suppose so. And Boims and Mariner are a lot more bumbly in appearance than other Ensigns, despite their actual competency levels being arguably exceptionally high for Ensigns/LtJGs. Still, a huge tech gap of 130ish years - especially when you consider the exponential advances growth in technological advancement, let alone by that period. Which is also sidenote why I do think we'll be out among the stars by the 23rd century - we're advancing so quickly people don't even realise it.
It's like if you took a lazy intern from your office and put them on a World War 2 allied battleship, and just assumed their advanced knowledge would somehow equip them well.
@@theevilascotcompany9255 I dunno, they’re still graduates of Starfleet Academy, Ensigns on the officers command track. It’d be more like putting a low ranking officer from todays Navy onto a ship from WW2 era at best, and that’s assuming the way “technology” as we know it has changed drastically in the last 100 years with the invention of digital computing would be so drastically dissimilar etc
This is the first clip I've seen of this show....are all the characters as annoying as these two? This honestly makes me not want to watch the show at all.
...man, new star trek really sucks LMAO why are all the characters written like annoying teenagers? If I wanted to listen to this kind of garbage bad-YA-novel dialogue I'd rewatch buffy the vampire slayer. Utter trash.
Pitch Meeting : Ok imagine If Star Trek was stupid and terrible written and has a massive budget but looked worse then the 90s shows. Also girl bosses.... girl bosses everywhere!
Amazing how just a few years before Spock is on TOS, he is totally clueless, needs to be told everything by every person on the Enterprise, has no control of his emotions and is basically a wreck of a Vulcan.......Almost as weak as Pike, who also has to get schooled by every crew member in order to make a decision.....But Pike sure can cook.....
He is deliberately experiencing with his emotions as part of dealing with the aftermath of being forced to use them on purpose in the episode where Hemmer dies.
"Spock Is smiling now?"
"Just go with it, its terrifying"
Had me in stitches.
Spock must have attended the Sheldon Cooper school of weirdo smiles.
If i had a nickel for every time a sapphic lady in starfleet went back in time and was surprised by how hot spock was when he was younger, id have two nickels. Which isnt a lot, but its weird that it happened twice
Excellent. I hadn't made that connection.
“Amazing! I drive them to lesbianism, he brings them back!”
Who's the other one? Is it Dax?
@@lieutenantkettch, yes. Jadzia.
They seem to have truly made her bi and not just "Oh. We're going to say she's bi, but she's just going to really be with just women."
"Do they notice that their references are weirdly specific?"
LoL
By their time most of this is established Starfleet history, eagerly devoured by young Academy cadets and debated the way that fans do canon.
@@daniels7907 The events are probably labelled exactly like the episode titles.
They did once refer to a Ferengi acting stereotypically Fergengi-ish as a "Last Outpost throwback".
Not mention specifically referring to two people getting merged through a transporter error as being "Tuvixed".
@@timfortune9 - There's probably an officer somewhere in Starfleet whose job is to name and categorize these incidents - which to us are episode titles. Although I did find it very interesting that Captain Freeman had to request Janeway's logs from the curator. That implies that Starfleet hasn't distributed them to every starship computer. Probably to hide some of the things she did.
@@daniels7907 Of the weird departments Starfleet has, my favorite is that they have an Internal Affairs division dedicated solely to time travelling incidents.
@@timfortune9 - Who are *soooooo* totally not good at their jobs given the generally fast-and-loose attitude that Starfleet captains tend to have about time travel. They take the Temporal Prime Directive about as seriously as the ban on Romulan Ale.
That little squeaking sound when Mariner pulls back her hands across the table kills me everytime. There are so many lovely details in this!
It's the tiny little forced swagger as she walks to the table... that's physical acting in keeping with the character, but too subtle to be part of the animated show.
The collision between the comedy aspect vs the dramatic is awesome. The fact they kept the two of them as they'd actually be is great writing.
yessssss
I love that everytime spock smiled they made it seem like a horror film in their reaction 🤣
I think that is how every Original show Star Trek fan feels every time they saw Spock smile.
It's a successful running gag. The series exceeded my expectations. I wouldn't mind if they went back in time. This time with the Cerritos they end up in the past and help them against a scientist who is using time jumps.😏
@@msmaria5039didn’t watch the ending to “Amok Time” did you?
It would be even more disturbing to other Vulcans. They might think he's actually a Romulan.
@@daniels7907 That may well be, but in the pilot "The Cage" he also smiled. I suspect that he had not yet decided on the vulcan way of life at that time. And that's why it came across as a bit more emotional. It wasn't until the Kirk era that he decided to do so.✌
I just love how done Pike is with Boimler and Mariner. You can practically hear “godspeed to whoever their commanding officer is”
“Oh don’t worry, my Captain is also my mother… dad is and admiral.”
Pike: “oh god. She’s a military brat.”
Unfortunately, drowning Mariner is a sack wasn't an option.
I could totally picture them saying all this
“Spock’s smiling now, I don’t like it.” 😂😂😂
it is terrifying.😄
Yeah, I hate it
I love how they casually brought up the Bell riots from DS9
I know…,kinda weirdly specific :P
Nice reminder that Mariner served on DS9 and Gabriel Bell's picture is of Ben Sisko. Writer's did their homework.
Bell Riots scheduled for 2024
@@JJNotAbrams-gl1io with all the tent encampments in many major US and Canadian cities these days, sanctuary districts aren't that hard to imagine followed by riots right away.....
You sound like a Gimme@@JJNotAbrams-gl1io
I love how the lower deck crew is basically just the newest generation of fandom larping. No shaming; I'm a nerd/geek/dork/dweeb too!
I mean they’re larping essentially, but at their real job in their universe. They get to live every fan’s dream, and I think that’s why this show does so well. It’s wish fulfillment but with the caveat that it’s a clear love letter to everything that fans could love about Star Trek, even to make fun of. The fact that it’s fully unashamed about it is what sells it
The hot spock line was actually an ad lib! Ends up being one of the most iconic lines in the episode haha
He has the effect on people. I thought it was just Dax being perpetually horny.
Tawny Newsome is a genius
@@brucechmiel7964As in Terry Farrell? Met her many moons ago. We talked for half an hour about education for her child. She was really nice.
@@KristineMaitland Yep. I love Terry. And Trials and Tribblelations is the greatest hour of Star Trek out to screen.
So was the scene in Pike's quarters where Boimler says 'Riker' while jumping on a saddle. It's said that Jonathan Frake's wife was on set and howled with laughter at the ad-lib mention of her husband's character name.
I was waiting for a reference to Spock having excellent hearing.
Wouldn't be the first time he overheard a compliment from a nearby private conversation.
I like how the camera leaves his expression on hearing this to our imagination.
HAHAHA i literally just saw that episode yesterday
Sadly...that's the one where Sam dies :(
Spocks smile is completely terrifying.
Yep. That's what makes the joke in the episode work.
Its on par with Sheldon Cooper's smiling.
@@CaspCic So true.
"how much more damage can she do?" Is not a thing you even consider thinking about Mariner!
True. But in all fairness, only Boimler knew Mariner, and he wasn't the one saying that.
Mariner is the @GrayStillPlays of the Star Trek universe 😂
the way Pike delivers that line always fucking kills me. like he's just beyond fed up with this weird ass situation lol
@@skippythealien9627, he’s wasted on this show. It’s a series of disjointed episodes, nothing connecting them, no logic, no sense. The producers are going out of their way to show the audience a lot of flash…musical, time travel, court martial…and the only connected episodes are the cliffhangers so the series doesn’t get cancelled. Discovery showed us what Pike can do, gave him a terrible destiny, and then shows precious little connected to it. The characters have tragic backstories and nothing else in common.
Yes, Mariner can’t ruin the show, but only because it was already ruined before she got there. Forget believability, forget relatable. SNW managed to keep the worst elements of the original series and replace the cast w/inferior substitutes.
@@r.c.auclair2042 - The standalone stories are a deliberate choice, because some viewers criticized that contemporary serialized Trek such as Discovery could not capture the "vibe" of classic Trek's "adventure of the week" format. As for if you find the results believable or relatable, that's a separate matter and far more subjective. I think that earlier series weren't better in that regard, but felt different because the writing style was less self-aware so it came across as more cozy and sincere. While fanservice can break immersion for many.
This episode was pure joy.
Most of them are....except when they make me tear up. I love this trek
@@doxielain2231Yeah, pure joy, pure sadness, and pure terror 😂
Pure cringe
@@eskanda3434 If that was cringe
I LOVE CRINGE
it was also genuinely heartwarming and such a tribute to the spirit of Trek
Boimler is more terrified of Spock's smile than the prospect of loosing a hand
"I really want to say no"
LMFAO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love pike's professional "FUCK IT!" have fun lol
If she thinks he's hot she should've seen him with that beard
😂😂😂
for real
Jadzia Dax 🤝 Mariner
WLW going feral over Young Hot Spock
true fr fr
Mariner's openly pansexual, and I daresay there's enough spoken evidence to say Jadzia is too, so it all tracks.
It's a real shame they never met. IIRC Mariner served on DS9 after Dax was transferred to Ezri. They'd have been the ultimate chaos duo
@@Synthonym Hey, it's an animated show, and cutaway flashbacks are a thing on Lower Decks, so...
This continues to be my favorite episode for both shows. Everyone brought their a-game and made a fun episode with perfect balance.
Agreed! Mine as well.
seeing the faces behind the voices makes me wish Lower Decks was live action
Not every VO looks similar to their LD characters.
You'd be surprised how many do@@sodadrinker89
@@sodadrinker89 They all do, excepting what would be required from hair and makeup. Lots of makeup for the non-human characters, sure.
I like the idea of an animated episode where Tendi & Rutherford end up on The Enterprise E!
1:36 - the sheer annoyance on Pike’s face is hilarious
*Spock's smiling now!*
Mariner talking about how hot Spock is is too funny to me
Boimler after every single line from mariner: STFU!!!!! We are in the presence of legends damnit!!!
I’ll admit Spock smiling is as terrifying as seeing a t-800 smile.
Ok but Mariner has a point here 😛
Young Spock is 😻😻😻
theyre all hot
Leonard Nimoy was hot, Zachary Quinto is hot, but that Spock is handsome.. Jess Bush is hot 😍
I can't WAIT to watch this (haven't seen any of SNW yet) but while Boimler and Mariner are brilliant actors, it's funny to see the maturity gap between characters from the 1960s and the 2020s.
Hot Spock and two smoking barrels.
I understood that reference.
My question is "What happened in the future to turn everyone into a cartoon?"
Orion alcohol
@@ThaFriendsZone Well played.
@@AngelusNielson terns out theres a drink called orian hericans at the end of the show it shows pike and his crew as cartoon cariters and them freaking out about it so that means lower decks takes place in the eues of mariner how is drinking orian alcahol to make everthing cartoon like i gess
Q happened.
He took a little jaunt into a nearby universe and bullied a bunch of small, pastel-colored talking horses for a few millenia. Then came back and decided he liked the simpler color scheme of that universe. I'm assuming the continuum got fed up with his antics again after that, and he was forced to snap the universe back to normal some time before Picard season one. That's why he was so low on power. Snapping the entirety of a universe into a new chromatic spectrum, twice, has to be draining even for a nigh omnipotent being.
@@atigerclaw I like your fan theory. I hope it's true.
Ok, I'm just gonna say it, live-action Mariner is CUTE!💗
In lower decks she always seems really angry, almost as if she hates the people around her. But in this episode she seemed so fun and happy and was obviously just joking around. I think it's just the style of animation in lower decks which doesn't quite get her actual emotions across properly. But Tawny Newsome does SO well in live action.
@@gabrieldarcy9067 Um.... how much of Lower Decks have you watched? Mariner's a fun character ALL THE TIME!!
i just looked her up - i cant believe SHE IS 41!!!
Dropping hints about the Bell Riots... Does that count as future knowledge because of the DS9 crew, or is it okay because technically it happened in the past?
I think technically because it hasn’t happened yet for the Pike’s Star Trek crew, it would be considered future knowledge, but it’s so oddly specific that it cancels out because all you got is a name. It’s kinda similar to how in OG Star Trek when we hear Khan’s and his backstory the eugenics wars gets brought up and in the 90s the Bosnian war happened. It’s that kind of energy.
Plus, even if someone on the _Enterprise_ opened up a book and saw Bell’s photo, the most that could happen is some history geek with a thing for the 20th century (paging Ensign Marla McGivers…!) might remark how much Bell looks like the actor who once had a TV series named “Hawk”… 😊
They would just hear it as an oddly random reference to a historical event since they don't know about any time travel.
Mariner is...
Possibly the least disciplined Ensign in all of starfleet.
I think the funny bit about this is the fact there all use to hearing about the calm and collecteive wise spock. But never once thought there was a time he wanted be more human, and went through a roller coaster of dealing with his past truamas an the fact he half human, and half vulcan.
I feel like the Lower Decks crew has always been a D&D style trek game in progress, but in this episode, I swear I could almost hear Brennan Lee Mulligan narrating.
Mariner is a hoot and a blast to watch!
Alright, let's just address the targ in the room... smiling, happy spock is FREAKY AS HELL!!!
Fabulous Episode!
Best episode ever!
Throughout the episode, Pike looks like he's about to say, "Don't make me turn around this station wagon !!"
WHY IS SPOCK SMILING?!
vulcans never believed time travel could exist but now he sees 2 real time travelers so hes kinda going through a crisis
he is trying to explore his human half
That's what I was wondering (as Pepsi shot from my nose...)
The LD uniforms look great in "real life"
part of me would've loved to see Tendi and Rutherford come through the portal as well
"How much more damage could she do at this point?"
NEVER give Mariner a challenge like that.
I'm not a fan of Lower Decks, but I had to admit this was a terrific episode. They nailed those characters.
squeeeeek
Did I witness Spock trying to make a joke? xD horrifying
"I will end your life."
tell me there isnt an edited "fucking" taken out between will and end?
....I can't tell which is more cringe, the line or your comment. you nu-trek fans are infantile and embarrassing, to match the level of writing on these shows
00:19 reference to DS9 S03E11 & S03E12 "Past Tense" Parts I & II - Sisko, Bashir, and Dax are thrown back in time by a spatial anomaly to San Francisco in the year 2024 - a dystopian city threatening to collapse under an extreme homelessness crisis. Boimler mentions the Bell Riots at 00:24, which were depicted in the aforementioned episodes.
Indeed!? Who is he, Teal'c!?
Pike is awesome!
Weirdly specific reference 😂
What episode is this?
It's amusing to me how polarizing Lower Decks is amongst fans, and I get it. It's equal parts parody and serious (?) show. I guess the most negative reactions come from the feeling that it is disrespecting the previous shows and that it is taking the viewer out of the ST world by being too meta.
Hot Spock? sounds like a drink in the mess hall
Don't get me wrong I love that they are getting to meet their idol but this is a Spock at the beginning of his career. not the Federation Ambassador who got the Federation and the Klingons to sign the Khitomer Accords. or the one who tried to reunified the Vulcans and the Romulans. It would be like going back in time meeting George Washington before he became general and later President.
1:21 was Mariner checkin Spock out?!
Mariner's not wrong with how Hot Ethan Peck is as Spock!
He really is though
hahahah that smile
Hey Mariner, neither your parents nor the vast majority of your contacts have been born yet. You might want to dial it back a bit because you've got nobody to call.
Cry about it.
Now I really want to see the rest of Beta Shift...
Oh, the power of good writing...
the power of not getting the energy of Star Trek right? this is shocking
....This writing is TERRIBLE, on the level of bad YA novels. sounds like it was written by and for teenagers who have never seen even five minutes of actual star trek. utter trash.
Mariner's hot too.... >.< Hotness goes both ways lol!
Are those Lower Decks?
By far, the best ready room breafing, ever! Profesh...ionally speaking
How is Lower decks which happens after TNG now a strange new worlds and young spock?
wibbly, wobbly, timey, whimey.
Just gonna gloss over the fact one is an animated universe?
@@Mellowcanuck33they address that at the end and it's hilarious.
@@themocaw my arms don't normally do this
@@Mellowcanuck33 acording to CBS there all in the same univers
I think what I love about Lower Decks, is that we're not seeing a flagship with the best and brightest Starfleet has. The California class is where a lot of the screwups end up. This is ideal for a comedy, but it's also nice as a fan to see what other parts of the fleet look like.
Woaaahhhhhhbbhb
Pike is such a pushover. Picard/Sisko/Janeway would've never put up with such behaviour.
Makes sense given he's got the biggest dad energy of any of the captains
watch prodigy season 2 and get back to me on that last comment lol.
2023 Star Trek humans sad humans might never evolve other than technology
they crushed these episodes - SNW is killing it - i was blown away at how good the singing episode was
the singing episode was garbage for infantilized adults, much like the rest of this trash. It all sounds like "dialogue" written for and by teenagers out of a bad YA novel.
Spock smiling reminds me on the one Scene in Big Bang theory
Leonard: [to a "smiling" Sheldon] We're here to see Koothrappali, not kill Batman.
Like
Marina: Holy Fu(Peep)! We are here to find a way to get back to the Future,Not kill Kane Spock!!!😂
Mariner is cute
Spok?Who cares about Spok?Check out young Uhura.
Dialogue is awesome.. but the set design of the meeting room is so offensive.. it might bring back Gene Rodenberry from the dead... it is outdated even for 1999 Ikea..
The unintended message. The past took things much more seriously.
İ think Leonard(aka original Spock) and Zachary is just hotter i think.
My only “dislike” about this episode is that Boimler and Mariner are like 130 years more advanced (which Boims does show later briefly) and the SNW crew acts like they picked up a couple of 20th century dumbasses.
Like, I hero worship plenty of 100ish year old people too but I know a lot more about my field than anyone did in 1923, but it’s never really shown how compared to these two trained Starfleet personally from the future, they’re all like, full on dinosaurs.
I would say it's because they are still ensigns. Like all ensigns past and present, they are going to blunder around no matter what century they're from.
Also, Boimler did know how to track the Orions, so there was some future knowledge there. However, without future technology all they had was theoretical.
@@cf-4233 Yeah I suppose so. And Boims and Mariner are a lot more bumbly in appearance than other Ensigns, despite their actual competency levels being arguably exceptionally high for Ensigns/LtJGs.
Still, a huge tech gap of 130ish years - especially when you consider the exponential advances growth in technological advancement, let alone by that period. Which is also sidenote why I do think we'll be out among the stars by the 23rd century - we're advancing so quickly people don't even realise it.
It's like if you took a lazy intern from your office and put them on a World War 2 allied battleship, and just assumed their advanced knowledge would somehow equip them well.
@@theevilascotcompany9255 I dunno, they’re still graduates of Starfleet Academy, Ensigns on the officers command track.
It’d be more like putting a low ranking officer from todays Navy onto a ship from WW2 era at best, and that’s assuming the way “technology” as we know it has changed drastically in the last 100 years with the invention of digital computing would be so drastically dissimilar etc
Zoomers meet Gen X
I was thinking Zoomers meet Silent Generation.
Did anyone else chuckle when Spock smiled? 😆 It seems like a natural reaction.
👇
just use mana
The dialogue is part of why I can't get into the new trek series.
Man they Californified the show. Californification is ruining TV shows.
I wish they got Andrew Garfield did this part.
Ever told someone to stop talking, I stopped watching after this lol it's just too much cringe...it's just me, but whatever how I just felt
This is the first clip I've seen of this show....are all the characters as annoying as these two? This honestly makes me not want to watch the show at all.
PPP
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Why are so many characters obnoxious and cartoonish now? :/
Why do they talk like it's the year 2015?
...man, new star trek really sucks LMAO why are all the characters written like annoying teenagers? If I wanted to listen to this kind of garbage bad-YA-novel dialogue I'd rewatch buffy the vampire slayer. Utter trash.
urgh.
This is awful
She looked more black in animation.
Pigskin's don't look fully human.
Blacker, not more black.
@@Theomite in real life she’s mixed.
@@jonathanroberts-bj7yl My comment was grammatical, not racial.
Pitch Meeting : Ok imagine If Star Trek was stupid and terrible written and has a massive budget but looked worse then the 90s shows.
Also girl bosses.... girl bosses everywhere!
Animated or live action, mariner is toxic in any time
That's why we love her.
Bruh
Toxic, no. Chaotic, for sure.
oomfg... this shit is so goofy i hate it
Everytime Mariner opens her mouth makes me want to materialize some duck tape
Amazing how just a few years before Spock is on TOS, he is totally clueless, needs to be told everything by every person on the Enterprise, has no control of his emotions and is basically a wreck of a Vulcan.......Almost as weak as Pike, who also has to get schooled by every crew member in order to make a decision.....But Pike sure can cook.....
He is deliberately experiencing with his emotions as part of dealing with the aftermath of being forced to use them on purpose in the episode where Hemmer dies.
yeah it's almost like people change and develop, shocking I know
Let him cook
@@zilentis1835 that and how Pike have the absurd take of....hearing other people's ideas before making a conscious order.
Pike is a fantastic leader. Everyone on the crew looks up to him. You just don't know what real leadership looks like.
Is it possible for Mariner to shut her hole?
lmao