Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩
No they wanted the character but die to an issue with rights they made Tom Paris. What do you think Tom was in prison for? They were going to use Nick but couldnt
He'd already re-imagined his past. That's why he claimed that he graduated at the top of his class at the Academy, when in fact he had been expelled before graduation. From a diplomatic perspective, that works in the Federation's favor because Starfleet can truthfully tell the other powers that Locarno never actually made it to the rank of Starfleet officer and as a disgraced former cadet his actions were entirely his own and his collaborators.
It's rich of him to get others killed and then to work his hardest to cover up his own ineptitudes and to cast blame on the deceased and tarnish their memories in order for his own ego to be unbruised. Then to blame the higher-ups for failure to inspire? THAT IS RICH.
Freeman was thrilled because she was worried about how she was going to bail Mariner out of this one. But then Mariner called out Locarno on live broadcast, ensuring that Starfleet will just assume that she was playing cooperative captive until Locarno made the mistake of letting her speak.
@@DoctorWhoKage - It was obvious from the sheer hubris of his quadrant-wide broadcast that Locarno's ego was out of control and that he assumed that anybody he spoke to became his subordinate. Mariner punking him like that during said broadcast effectively ruined his recruitment drive because why would the lower decks people he was trying to recruit risk everything to sign up with a guy who couldn't even handle just one Starfleet officer?
The Tom Paris comparison was hilarious. Also I like that they broke the trope of a character either standing by as the villain makes his grand speech while most people misunderstand them and their loyalties or subtly somehow showing the people they trust where they are. Mariner just straight up says it as quickly and effectively as she can in front of everybody on both sides.
Yeah I thought she was going to be silently miming in the background something to keep trying to play the guy until reinforcements got there, but damn, just warns everyone, grabs the device and runs? Colour me surprised
I like Ransom's unvarnished take on Locarno. Ransom has over-the-top boldness, but in the end, he is protective of everyone under him and would fight to the potential death to save them. He'd never put anyone under his command unnecessarily in harms way or cover up doing so later. The disgust in his voice is palpable.
Plus, Freeman was probably worried about what Starfleet would want to do to Mariner. Then Mariner totally ruined Locarno's grand live broadcast and made him look like a fool in front of the entire quadrant. Thus showing that she was a loyal Starfleet officer only pretending to cooperate until he gave her an opening to embarrass him.
I’m proud of Beckett’s boldness in this moment. She had seen the cost of Locarno’s egotism when Joshua Albert died for the pursuit of “glory”. She was not about to let history repeat itself. No doubt Sito would have done the same as her were she alive today.
Honestly I feel like their gearing up to bring her back. Even tho she's only been mentioned twice now the whole show is also named after the episode she "died" in. Even since it began I've had a hunch their would be an episode where it's discovered she's alive and they end up rescuing her from a secret cardassian prison camp like what Kira did in the beginning of season 2
Ensign Sito was the Bajoran lieutenant who had been part of Locarno's training squad, who eventually got transferred to the Enterprise, and impersonated a Bajoran slave to help that Cardassian spy be smuggled back home? Well she shouldn't be too hard to revive. What if the Borg found her body in space and assimilated it. Then later Starfleet came across a couple of drones during a hostile encounter, and captured them, took them away, and later liberated them from the collective? .... This idea is not copyrighted if anyone would like to use it. ☺️
@@joshuahill6994 I get the feeling that they might bring Sito Jaxa back as an antagonist, hurt that the Enterprise and Starfleet essentially abandoned her, which will be a major trial for Mariner.
@beard3451 I don't think so, she likely knew that the enterprise would consider her dead. And given the reason why she went on the mission to begin with, starfleet would be risking war just by basking about her, and they would loose their cardassian inside man. And given how the cardassian ls treat prisoner's shed likely be too traumatized to to be an antagonist. So her guest appearance would likely be mariner helping her work through her trauma like how her friends helped mariner through hers
If I remember correctly, the DS9 crew has said they considered bringing her back but ultimately decided not to in part because they felt it would undermine the gravity of her death.
Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩
Or Badgey, he also had that super cliffhanger ending scene last season. But then that one episode removed all of them as possibilities, leaving the question of who else it could have been.
@@TheNoiseySpectator I haven't seen the full episode myself so I don't know the whole story, but Agimus was stuck in prison nearly the whole time anyway. Locarno I guess was using that strange ship to ambush and kidnap random other ships, then convince their lower deckers to mutiny against their captains and join him in his new Nova Fleet or whatever. He somehow made it look like he was destrorying them, but in actuality he wanted to take them for himself to be the starting point of a whole armada. No idea how he found a magic ship that had the ability subdue and then teleport multiple bigger ships from nearly every major power in the quadrant though.
Heck, when the Texas class first was introduced and they said that there were three prototypes, I was wondering if last season's finale was going to show Peanut Hamper, AGIUMS, and Badgey somehow meeting up and taking them over.
@@eleonorabilokin983 The Federation and Cardassians have been redrawing their borders, which led to some Federation colonies ending up in Cardassian space and some Cardassian colonies in Federation space. The Federation citizens did not want to give up their homes and started a terrorist organization called the Maquis. It has been a recurring plot in Next Generation and Deep Space 9. The Voyager and a Maquis ship got stranded in the Delta Quadrant. The Maquis ship got destroyed in the first episode and so its crew got integrated in the Voyager's crew. The ones with the same rank emblem as the Vulcan in this clip are the Maquis crew members. The Maquis eventually got completely wiped out during the run of Deep Space 9.
@@eleonorabilokin983 Long story short after a bloody war against the Cardasians there was a peace treaty that created new borders with both sides losing some planets in a new demilitarized zone. the people on those planets from both sides were told to evacuate but they didn't want to abandon their homes and others fought to hold on to those planets, they saw friends and family die in battle and refused to give the planets up. it didn`t take long before the people who remained started fighting the people from the other side who remained. the ex-federation fighters became a "terrorist/freedom fighter" organization called Maqui.
I haven’t properly seen this, but I think season 1 Mariner would have pumped the breaks after seeing the space nuke. She’s reckless, but not a mindless killer
0:27 "He looks like Tom Paris" Fun fact: The actor Robert Duncan McNeill played both Tom Paris and Nick Locarno. The LD producers and writers are flexing their trekkie street cred
Well, better yet, this means everyone in the quadrent will have heard of her now. She has probably gotten what Nick craved to an unhealthy degree, recognition and fame.
It was the right call. If she had agreed with him, the Cerritos would believe she defected, the Andorian/Tamarian/Archaeologist etc. Lower Deckers might have been tempted to join Nova Fleet, and their Captains might have been tempted to introduce harsher conditions to prevent their crew to mutiny.
Same. Like just miming how the guy was crazy in the background and then acting like she was on his side to trick him when he faced her. But then he called on her and she tells them to not join! Ha! Great loved it
"This guy SUUUCKS! He's an idiot and his plan is stupid! He's gonna get you all killed because he only cares about himself!" Karate kicks, steals bomb, escapes bridge. Yay, Mariner!
@@eugeniamonerratpinzonbalam3451 on paper it should be Nick because he has much bigger dogs to fend off (by comparison, McGillis only needs to face Rustal and his troops, Nick basically challenged the three remaining powers of the quadrant) but he has a much more reliable and tangent if albeit single use trump card (the genesis device) AND a more reliable back up plan (the trynar shield) while McGillis put all of his eggs in the basket that was Bael (expecting the old men at the Seven Stars and even Rustal to bow down because he pulled the sword out of the stone)and his back up plans failed to deliver (his man on mars switched sides and Tekkadan while still formidable was cut off from resources and fell to attrition).
@@targetseeker ***SPOILERS*** Wait… who was the guy who switched sides? As I recall, the only real wrench in his plan (and it was arguably THE WORST possible wrench to throw into it) was Gaelio surviving. Once Vidar showed himself, it all quickly spiraled out of control. If his plan to kill Gaelio at the end of Season 1 had worked, the other Seven Stars (aside from Rustal and Iok of course) would have likely fallen in line. Don’t get me started on IBO haha - I had no problem with how it ended per se, but how we GOT there still aggravates me to this day…
@@MegaphoneFranke he was expecting the guy he assigned to be the head of the Mars branch of Gjallarhorn to repay the favor and provide the planet's manpower (not enough to counter Arianhod's numbers advantage but better than having none) and security to his side but like the Seven Stars, he played neutral (he allowed Mcgillis and Tekkadan to go down to the planet but will not aid Mcgillis any further. If he was anti-Mcgillis he would've had them shot down and never reach Mars).
It is sad that he ended up like this. I mean he freaken united all these species on his own, and recruited Lower Deckers. Pretty impressive, i mean building your own organization isn't easy.
He lied through his teeth to recruit those others. But he showed his true colors when he started demanding that his fleet of "equals" obey his orders. He may have called himself an "independent captain", but he was really acting like a fleet admiral.
It’s the classic problem of anything that promises that everyone is an equal. Someone has to be the leader and by the very definition that makes them more powerful than everyone else and therefore unequal.
I loved this season. Since Locarno couldn't be used in Voyager they created Paris with a similar story so they have a redemption arc character. Looking back, it was a lucky break, because now we have Paris, the redemption arc and Locarno, the villain arc.
@@MarkPeckham the producers balked at the cost of royalties they would have had to pay the writer of the original episode he appeared in for every episode of Voyager.
@@yellowprime8491 "Oh we have to pay someone for their work...rrghhh..we can't just steal it? No? Ok, do the same thing, give it a different name, and well just say we're being original." At least LD did something with it to make each character unique and interesting, if still reflections of each other.
The version I heard was that Lorcano's depiction in TNG was just too irredeemable. They rather invented a new character with a similar-ish backstory than try to redeem the guy everybody (rightfully) despised.
@@SKy_the_Thunder Really would love to believe that rendition. Maybe I'm too cynical, but seeing how greedy these corporations can get, which drove the SAG--AFTRA strikes to begin with, it makes it too possible.
After last season's interview and knowing Mariner got booted off the ship, Locardo had every reason to think she would go along with his plan. Except maybe that she was still in a SF uniform. But even then, his prodding on her friend's death, might have been enough.
Locarno was always a moron who only cared about himself exactly as Beckett screamed out to the entire Alpha quadrant. It’s amazing he wasn’t jailed when he tried to tried to cover up his actions, the only reason he wasn’t was because of his youth at the time. Can you imagine this moron in the Dominion War?
Love this. Glad that they put the “Tom Paris and Nick LeCarno are the same” fan theory to bed with Rutherford and Boimler. Also, I love the small detail that when Mariner gets closer to the camera, she goes out of focus since the focus plane is on Nick in the mid ground. I’m guessing cameras on bridges don’t have auto focus.
It's not a fan theory it's a production truth the name was changed in voyager due to rights issues over Locarno which is whi the same actors was cast and the Paris character has the same back story its not a theory its bts information that's been confirmed by those who worked on voyager.... Don't speak unless ya know
@@prestigemultimediagroup6436 I've heard the 'rights' issue refuted dozens of times now. Do you have a source to back up the claim it was a rights issue?
@@JaredThirsk I didn't say rights issue I said they didn't want to pay to use the character... and let's see sources well its been reported on several tines with quotes from McNeal Bragga and other creative on the voyager production its been said by them on several podcasts... thats why Tom Paris is a carbon copy of Locarno McNeal thought he was auditioning to reprise the character and in the original script the characters name was locarno... but what do I know
You know if you really think about it. Sito death is also can be blamed on Locarno. If they do not attempt the stunt, they graduate. She ends up on another ship than the Enterprise and is not sent on the mission. Remember Picard requested her so that she would get a fair chance so if she never got in trouble, chances are she doesn't go to the Enterprise.
If I remember right, Beckett was told Sito died during a battle in the Dominion War so...I'm confused. Which is it? Locarno's arrogance or the Dominion War?
@@DoctorWhoKage I never heard of that but I mean star trek can barely keep track of its continuity and is constantly retconing things like that time meniner was helping quark get the hollow image of kira for that weird alien who is also just burnt and wayon the same way locarno and Tom Paris exist.at the same time.
@@DoctorWhoKage Sito died in an undercover operation during the dominion war, see the episode "lower decks" on TNG. But the reason why Sito was on that undercover operation was because she was requested to by Picard. The reason why Picard asked for her is because he remembered her as wesley's friend in the academy. Locarno was the head of wesley's friend group, and motivated the group into doing a banned stunt, resulting in the death of a friend. He then proceeds to try to cover up said death as an accident, and not because of the banned stunt, and encouraged the friend group to do the same. Eventually, all of the friend group had to repeat a year, while locarno got kicked out. This event was a tarnish on Sito, and if she hadn't gotten involved in that cover-up, Picard wouldn't have requested her and she would have probably been on a different ship after graduating. So Locarno was a domino in getting Sito killed.
@@DoctorWhoKageno. She says Sito was murdered by cardassians, which is exactly what happened. Sito's escape pod was blown to bits by a cardassian ship during the federation-cardassian border skirmishes. She mentions the dominion war as another thing that happened after sito's death.
OMG! One of the funniest scenes of this season! I love Lower Decks. It's some of the best Trek out there. Love the callbacks to old episodes, and trek movies too. Tons of easter eggs that you might not always see at first, but they give the show a phenomenal replay value. Like this episodes joke about Locarno and Tom Paris being the same person. 🤣🤣 I swear I didn't get that joke until I thought about it a week later, when I remembered that Robert Duncan McNeill did play Locarno in his pre-Star Trek Voyager days. That made the gag even funnier! I swear I love this show.
But wait. Didn't he also take responsibility for what happened which helped his three other team members? Though then again, he did cause all of his own problems and then lied about it.
At least Mariner stopped him before he could turn some random system Orange. "Even after being kicked out of Starfleet, you fight against the only order that will accept you for what you are." _"You, solely, are responsible for this."_
Interesting fact...the 4 people that Starfleet was looking for all got booted out or quit under bad circumstances. By the time of this episode Crusher had left Starfleet and gone underground, Thomas Riker had joined the Maquis, and Seven got rejected and joined the rangers.
@@TheNoiseySpectator - Mariner has a nose for egotistical officers and while Locarno was telling his followers that they were all equals, he was really seeing himself as their admiral. She knew that and wanted to warn people who might believe his lies.
Rutherford: “He looks like Tom Paris.” Boimler: “I don’t see it..” Rutherford: "They have like the same face. They look identical." Boimler: : No, I just don't see it." Beards - Natures masks.
The Marquis were not based on outer space. They had space crafts and fought in outer space, but they were based on planet colonies. This new society would have a space fleet for its home.
Me: Expecting a Picard or Sisko monologue on the value of Starfleet Mariner: THIS GUY SUCKS! *Kicks chunk of metal into Locarno, steals WMD, legs it* Me, struggling to breathe while laughing: The last 25 years of Trek have been setup for this punchline
Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩
@@WarGrowlmon18 I believe there was some concern about royalties possibly having to be paid to the writer(s) of the The First Duty every time Nick would have appeared.
You think "Metal Gear" is the first one to think of this? I read a Star Trek book, can't remember the name at the moment, where a collection of unrelated spaceships from around the "Alpha Quadrant" had put together their own spacefairing civilization based on the same principles. Locarno was wrong about his "Dettrions" being the first. Voyager encountered such an assembly in the Delta quadrant. Beyond Star Trek there were the Ousters in the "Hyperion" stories, and there are even plenty of examples in _real life._. Not sure, but I think the core of the Caribbean islands was formed by runaway slaves and refugees indigenous to the islands. I think Captain Cook (yes, Captain Cook was a real pirate) finally retired to a private estate on his own island, somewhere. And if you go to _Alaska today_ the residents will tell you there are even these days people coming to live in the backwoods who want to get away from the suffocating crush of "modern society". So, what is so outrageous about Locarno and his compatriots starting their own thing, if nobody is using that solar system, anyway?
WROOOOONG. You do realize the story was first written, then animated and LAST voiced? With other words, not a brilliant performance ... just doing her job. There are plenty of voice performances that are brilliant, this is 100% not one of them. Edit: Insulting now with words you do not understand? Get out of your cave and get a life.
@@eddiepasa4173 Not really. Everyone with a consistent voice and some brains can do this. There are some examples in movie/tv history that are brilliant performances, this is not one of them. Mansplaining? lol. You have no idea what it means. Ridicolus bad and obvious attempt at trying to shut down the discussion by claiming the other person is a [bad] person (replace brackets with the woke insult of your choice, like racists, sexist, etc.). Get a life.
Once again this proves that humans can still succumb to a new type of greed, the need to be recognized. Both Nick and Less Bunimego wanted to be famous, and they both let it destroy themselves. In the future there is still currency, it just changed.
Admiral Buenamigo said it the best himself during the season 3 Finale: once you make Admiral in starfleet, its so competitive that you basically hit a wall and have to resort to extreme (and often times unethical) methods to get any sort of significant recognition. it was the same thing with Admiral Pressman in TNG (willing to break the Treaty of Algeron just so Starfleet could have stealth technology equal to that of the Romulans), Admiral Leyton in DS9 (tried to initiate a Military Coup against the Federation president due to his belief that the Changelings posed a much greater threat to the Federation and Earth) and Admiral Dougherty in the TNG Insurrection movie (tried to forcefully and covertly relocate the Ba'ku from their homeworld to collect particles from the planet's rings which would destroy the planet's biosphere and render it uninhabitable for life)
starfleet academy doesn't suffer that much casualties while picard was heavily involved. Honestly this was a shitshow that would've been a blip on the academy if nick would've been forward instead of being a spineless coward
Supposedly such things rarely happen in Star Fleet (mostly due to Roddenberry's old screenplay rules), so unless it gets classified, then it would get talked about.
I had vocalized "Holy shit!" as soon as they explained who he was. I remember the TNG Episode regarding that. And the comments about tom paris was just icing on the cake.
Have to Totally agree with the Doctor on this one. Locarion was about the biggest A hole cadet in Star Trek history. And Everything Mariner said about him was totally true also. He got a Cadet killed, covered it up, even blamed him for the accident. Wanted Crusher to call Picard a Liar, even resign from the academy himself to keep from doing the right thing all so Locarno could graduate a legend for doing am illegal maneuver at the Graduation ceremony. What an A hole!
I like the fact they use the gag of Paris and Locarno looking similar. When knowing Robert Duncan McNeill first appearing in the TNG, then to be part of Voyager. Absolutely loved it with Marnier just ruins Locarno big tyrant speech. 😂
"They're part of the first, independent, unaligned fleet in the Alpha Quadrant!" "Uh the Maquis would like a word..." OMG, I snorted my drink out of my nose just now... 🤣😂🤣😂💀
Maybe I'm stretching here but I feel like this is also meant as a tongue-in-cheek reference to MGS: Peace Walker with the whole "Non-government military with a superweapon" thing.
The idea of bringing Locarno back as a dark counterpart for our Lower Deckers is so perfectly fitting that I'm kind of surprised it took this show four whole seasons to do it.
1:55 OK, seems like she's going to play along, earn these guys trust, maybe drop a hint she's still on the Federation's side, wait for the best moment to sabotage their plans 2:03 Nope, ain't got the patience for that, we're rumbling NOW
I feel this was a huge missed opportunity to make a redemption arc for locarno. I thought the last episode would be him telling mariner that sito is actually alive, that the cardassian report detailing her death had been a counterintelligence maneuver and that they kept her for questioning and then transferred her to the breen during the dominion war for forced labor, and that he was collecting ships to mount an attack on the facility because everyone he talked to in starfleet had told him to suck a lemon. he does this because he feels responsible that his screw up with the maneuver allowed picard to guilt-trip sito into going on what was clearly a suicide mission.
Both the writers and the actor who played him agree Locarno was irredeemable after he set up the stunt, pressured his “friends” into keeping quiet, and tried to throw the victim under the bus. In fact, making him a villain was how they persuaded the actor to come back to voice him.
till his appearance in lower decks i always had the head canon that nick locarno and tom paris were the same guy. he just used an assumed name to join starfleet so he didn't ride on his dad's reputation.. you know.. like mariner did
It just makes me think that Locarno was always this cracked, it was just him proving he was awesome to everyone. At least this time the only person killed was him.
"He looks like Tom Paris"
They freaking acknowledged it! XD
Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩
No they wanted the character but die to an issue with rights they made Tom Paris. What do you think Tom was in prison for? They were going to use Nick but couldnt
I don't see it.
@@VanVelding they have like the same face.
The joke absolutely had to be made that's the beauty of Lower Decks.
"If you fear following the orders of incompetent commanders who failed in the seats of power..."
Coming from Locarno? That's rich.
Sooo true! He failed in a position of command yet blames others!
Yep, drives home how detached from reality he's become due to his ego.
He'd already re-imagined his past. That's why he claimed that he graduated at the top of his class at the Academy, when in fact he had been expelled before graduation. From a diplomatic perspective, that works in the Federation's favor because Starfleet can truthfully tell the other powers that Locarno never actually made it to the rank of Starfleet officer and as a disgraced former cadet his actions were entirely his own and his collaborators.
Egotism is a hell of a drug.
It's rich of him to get others killed and then to work his hardest to cover up his own ineptitudes and to cast blame on the deceased and tarnish their memories in order for his own ego to be unbruised. Then to blame the higher-ups for failure to inspire? THAT IS RICH.
At least, that transmission allowed Mariner to finally prove her redemption in front of the entire Alpha Quadrant.
That and it demonstrates that Nick underestimated how Mariner feels about him and his big ego.😄
Freeman was thrilled because she was worried about how she was going to bail Mariner out of this one. But then Mariner called out Locarno on live broadcast, ensuring that Starfleet will just assume that she was playing cooperative captive until Locarno made the mistake of letting her speak.
@daniels7907 and she honestly was, as far as I could tell, at least. I mean this *did* all start after she was kidnapped by Locarno.
@@DoctorWhoKage - It was obvious from the sheer hubris of his quadrant-wide broadcast that Locarno's ego was out of control and that he assumed that anybody he spoke to became his subordinate. Mariner punking him like that during said broadcast effectively ruined his recruitment drive because why would the lower decks people he was trying to recruit risk everything to sign up with a guy who couldn't even handle just one Starfleet officer?
@@daniels7907 true.
The Tom Paris comparison was hilarious.
Also I like that they broke the trope of a character either standing by as the villain makes his grand speech while most people misunderstand them and their loyalties or subtly somehow showing the people they trust where they are. Mariner just straight up says it as quickly and effectively as she can in front of everybody on both sides.
It's funny because the reference is Robert Duncan McNeil played both characters XD I do love when Lower Decks makes these references.
@@blackdemonknight Exactly
Yeah I thought she was going to be silently miming in the background something to keep trying to play the guy until reinforcements got there, but damn, just warns everyone, grabs the device and runs? Colour me surprised
It's the best part that Rutherford is the only one who seems to see it. They even just met Tom Paris earlier in the show lol.
Rutherford: He not only looks like Tom Paris, he sounds like Tom Paris.
Boimler: I was beaten up by Tom Paris, this guy is nothing like Tom Paris.
*Beaten up, but later invited to a drink in order to apologise.
@@podemosurss8316 ...and get his plate signed of course!
I like Ransom's unvarnished take on Locarno. Ransom has over-the-top boldness, but in the end, he is protective of everyone under him and would fight to the potential death to save them. He'd never put anyone under his command unnecessarily in harms way or cover up doing so later. The disgust in his voice is palpable.
Here’s hoping that Ransom gets a promotion and his own command after this.
@@freedomstar3930 I could see him taking Boims with him
He even stabbed Mariner in the foot to make sure she wasn't going to go senselessly to die fighting Vindor.
Only glimpse it in this clip, but that look of pride from her mother just screams, "That's my girl!".
Plus, Freeman was probably worried about what Starfleet would want to do to Mariner. Then Mariner totally ruined Locarno's grand live broadcast and made him look like a fool in front of the entire quadrant. Thus showing that she was a loyal Starfleet officer only pretending to cooperate until he gave her an opening to embarrass him.
I think she said, "Attagirl."
I’m proud of Beckett’s boldness in this moment.
She had seen the cost of Locarno’s egotism when Joshua Albert died for the pursuit of “glory”.
She was not about to let history repeat itself.
No doubt Sito would have done the same as her were she alive today.
Honestly I feel like their gearing up to bring her back. Even tho she's only been mentioned twice now the whole show is also named after the episode she "died" in. Even since it began I've had a hunch their would be an episode where it's discovered she's alive and they end up rescuing her from a secret cardassian prison camp like what Kira did in the beginning of season 2
Ensign Sito was the Bajoran lieutenant who had been part of Locarno's training squad, who eventually got transferred to the Enterprise, and impersonated a Bajoran slave to help that Cardassian spy be smuggled back home?
Well she shouldn't be too hard to revive.
What if the Borg found her body in space and assimilated it.
Then later Starfleet came across a couple of drones during a hostile encounter, and captured them, took them away, and later liberated them from the collective?
.... This idea is not copyrighted if anyone would like to use it. ☺️
@@joshuahill6994 I get the feeling that they might bring Sito Jaxa back as an antagonist, hurt that the Enterprise and Starfleet essentially abandoned her, which will be a major trial for Mariner.
@beard3451 I don't think so, she likely knew that the enterprise would consider her dead. And given the reason why she went on the mission to begin with, starfleet would be risking war just by basking about her, and they would loose their cardassian inside man. And given how the cardassian ls treat prisoner's shed likely be too traumatized to to be an antagonist. So her guest appearance would likely be mariner helping her work through her trauma like how her friends helped mariner through hers
If I remember correctly, the DS9 crew has said they considered bringing her back but ultimately decided not to in part because they felt it would undermine the gravity of her death.
0:26
Rutherford: “He looks like Tom Paris.”
Boimler: “I don’t see it..”
Us: “That can’t be, he looks nothing like a salamander!”
Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩
could have been a clone of a salamander
@@WarGrowlmon18stop spamming
I think Boimler would know! He has the official Tom Paris collector's plate! He has everyone from Voy.
@@jdunn813He even got assaulted by Tom Paris that one time!
One thing I noticed. Nova fleet is a dark mirror to Star Trek Online's Delta Flight which was created by Tom Paris. Nice detail.
Wasn't the original flight group who attempted the Kolvoord Starburst at Starfleet was called Nova Squadron?
@@vailpcs4040 yes but Nova fleet in particular was a reference to Delta Flight.
I dont think anyone expected Locarno to turn up. I think a lot of people thought Peanut Hamper and AGIMUS would be the big bad of the season
Or Badgey, he also had that super cliffhanger ending scene last season. But then that one episode removed all of them as possibilities, leaving the question of who else it could have been.
Wait, I thought that was AGIMUS who was going around destroying everyone at the beginning of the season.
Are you telling me it was actually Locarno?
@@TheNoiseySpectator I haven't seen the full episode myself so I don't know the whole story, but Agimus was stuck in prison nearly the whole time anyway. Locarno I guess was using that strange ship to ambush and kidnap random other ships, then convince their lower deckers to mutiny against their captains and join him in his new Nova Fleet or whatever. He somehow made it look like he was destrorying them, but in actuality he wanted to take them for himself to be the starting point of a whole armada.
No idea how he found a magic ship that had the ability subdue and then teleport multiple bigger ships from nearly every major power in the quadrant though.
I was expecting Boimlers transporter clone honestly
Heck, when the Texas class first was introduced and they said that there were three prototypes, I was wondering if last season's finale was going to show Peanut Hamper, AGIUMS, and Badgey somehow meeting up and taking them over.
The Maquis would like a word! - Ha Ha
If most of them were not dead.
The only ones left are : the handful that Sisko unwillingly rescue and the ones that join Voyager's crew. So oround 50
I would like an explanation please. I got into star trek only because of lower decks and don't really understand some of the humour.
@@eleonorabilokin983it's a rebel faction from star trek: deep space 9
@@eleonorabilokin983 The Federation and Cardassians have been redrawing their borders, which led to some Federation colonies ending up in Cardassian space and some Cardassian colonies in Federation space. The Federation citizens did not want to give up their homes and started a terrorist organization called the Maquis. It has been a recurring plot in Next Generation and Deep Space 9.
The Voyager and a Maquis ship got stranded in the Delta Quadrant. The Maquis ship got destroyed in the first episode and so its crew got integrated in the Voyager's crew. The ones with the same rank emblem as the Vulcan in this clip are the Maquis crew members.
The Maquis eventually got completely wiped out during the run of Deep Space 9.
@@eleonorabilokin983 Long story short after a bloody war against the Cardasians there was a peace treaty that created new borders with both sides losing some planets in a new demilitarized zone. the people on those planets from both sides were told to evacuate but they didn't want to abandon their homes and others fought to hold on to those planets, they saw friends and family die in battle and refused to give the planets up. it didn`t take long before the people who remained started fighting the people from the other side who remained. the ex-federation fighters became a "terrorist/freedom fighter" organization called Maqui.
"Confident but like in a creepy way." Ha ha, I love it.
1:24 As always, T'Ana has a way with words. 😆
She perfectly sums it up. ;-)
Season 1 Mariner, I could believe would be tempted.
Season 4 Mariner? This was obviously coming, and I grinned to my ears when it did.
I haven’t properly seen this, but I think season 1 Mariner would have pumped the breaks after seeing the space nuke. She’s reckless, but not a mindless killer
@@redrasegarden That's most definitely true. Whatever problems she had in season 1, she was still a very good person.
@@MatthewJamesKalasky thnx
@@redrasegarden You're welcome.
@@MatthewJamesKalasky 😊
0:27 "He looks like Tom Paris"
Fun fact: The actor Robert Duncan McNeill played both Tom Paris and Nick Locarno.
The LD producers and writers are flexing their trekkie street cred
And it makes the show all the better.
Loved Brad's Sassiness in this scene!
I am convinced all characters played by Tim Russ are a time travelling Tuvok.
Weren't they actually the same character in the early planning stages for Voyager?
I hoped someone would think they looked the same. Bless Rutherford.
@@benstevens44 Yes but rights issues.
I thought she would have tried a double agent approach and try to take the GD that way, but this was great.
Nah, Mariner was just waiting to play the chaos card.
@@IronDino It's a good card.
Well, better yet, this means everyone in the quadrent will have heard of her now. She has probably gotten what Nick craved to an unhealthy degree, recognition and fame.
It was the right call.
If she had agreed with him, the Cerritos would believe she defected, the Andorian/Tamarian/Archaeologist etc. Lower Deckers might have been tempted to join Nova Fleet, and their Captains might have been tempted to introduce harsher conditions to prevent their crew to mutiny.
Same. Like just miming how the guy was crazy in the background and then acting like she was on his side to trick him when he faced her. But then he called on her and she tells them to not join! Ha! Great loved it
"This guy SUUUCKS! He's an idiot and his plan is stupid! He's gonna get you all killed because he only cares about himself!"
Karate kicks, steals bomb, escapes bridge.
Yay, Mariner!
It was problem that was solved by kicking
And the Captain couldn't have been more proud of her daughter.
@@joshreichardt2485as all problems are 😂
I absolutely love everything about that. Especially the look she gives the screen and how the picture of her gets so unfocused when she moves in.
@@redrasegarden*most
There are rare types of problems that can’t be kicked ;)
Mariner stealing Locarno's thunder in his moment of triumph is more hilarious when you're familiar with episode 43 of Iron Blooded Orphans.
I wonder who had a worst plan, Locarno or McGillis, who I hate with a passion (insert image of me with my fist shaking angrily to the sky)
@@eugeniamonerratpinzonbalam3451 on paper it should be Nick because he has much bigger dogs to fend off (by comparison, McGillis only needs to face Rustal and his troops, Nick basically challenged the three remaining powers of the quadrant) but he has a much more reliable and tangent if albeit single use trump card (the genesis device) AND a more reliable back up plan (the trynar shield) while McGillis put all of his eggs in the basket that was Bael (expecting the old men at the Seven Stars and even Rustal to bow down because he pulled the sword out of the stone)and his back up plans failed to deliver (his man on mars switched sides and Tekkadan while still formidable was cut off from resources and fell to attrition).
@@targetseeker
***SPOILERS***
Wait… who was the guy who switched sides? As I recall, the only real wrench in his plan (and it was arguably THE WORST possible wrench to throw into it) was Gaelio surviving. Once Vidar showed himself, it all quickly spiraled out of control. If his plan to kill Gaelio at the end of Season 1 had worked, the other Seven Stars (aside from Rustal and Iok of course) would have likely fallen in line.
Don’t get me started on IBO haha - I had no problem with how it ended per se, but how we GOT there still aggravates me to this day…
@@MegaphoneFranke he was expecting the guy he assigned to be the head of the Mars branch of Gjallarhorn to repay the favor and provide the planet's manpower (not enough to counter Arianhod's numbers advantage but better than having none) and security to his side but like the Seven Stars, he played neutral (he allowed Mcgillis and Tekkadan to go down to the planet but will not aid Mcgillis any further. If he was anti-Mcgillis he would've had them shot down and never reach Mars).
@@targetseeker that’s right. I forgot about that part. I’m personally of the mind that IBO started falling apart after they dealt with Jasley.
It is sad that he ended up like this. I mean he freaken united all these species on his own, and recruited Lower Deckers. Pretty impressive, i mean building your own organization isn't easy.
flimsy unity the broke down almost immediately when challenged.
problem is his ego the size of a star system clouded his judgement and lack of consequences of his actions.
He lied through his teeth to recruit those others. But he showed his true colors when he started demanding that his fleet of "equals" obey his orders. He may have called himself an "independent captain", but he was really acting like a fleet admiral.
Given how good he was at talking people into doing dumb things, I'm surprised he didn't go into politics.
It’s the classic problem of anything that promises that everyone is an equal. Someone has to be the leader and by the very definition that makes them more powerful than everyone else and therefore unequal.
I love Boimler and Rutherford’s commentary. Kinda needed a couple of robot friends
The Federation is in a slightly more distant future.
Her mother was so proud at that moment.
Rutherford: He looks like Tom Paris.
Boimler: I don't see it!
Best line!
What's funny about this is that even though he looks like Tom Paris, his voice actor is clearly the same guy who voiced Robin in 2003's Teen Titans.
I loved this season. Since Locarno couldn't be used in Voyager they created Paris with a similar story so they have a redemption arc character. Looking back, it was a lucky break, because now we have Paris, the redemption arc and Locarno, the villain arc.
Why couldn’t they have used Locarno on Voyager?
@@MarkPeckham the producers balked at the cost of royalties they would have had to pay the writer of the original episode he appeared in for every episode of Voyager.
@@yellowprime8491 "Oh we have to pay someone for their work...rrghhh..we can't just steal it? No? Ok, do the same thing, give it a different name, and well just say we're being original."
At least LD did something with it to make each character unique and interesting, if still reflections of each other.
The version I heard was that Lorcano's depiction in TNG was just too irredeemable. They rather invented a new character with a similar-ish backstory than try to redeem the guy everybody (rightfully) despised.
@@SKy_the_Thunder Really would love to believe that rendition. Maybe I'm too cynical, but seeing how greedy these corporations can get, which drove the SAG--AFTRA strikes to begin with, it makes it too possible.
After last season's interview and knowing Mariner got booted off the ship, Locardo had every reason to think she would go along with his plan.
Except maybe that she was still in a SF uniform.
But even then, his prodding on her friend's death, might have been enough.
Not only still in uniform but promoted to boot. That shoulda be a warning sign to him.
@@AdmRose Maybe blind by pride perhaps.
Locarno was always a moron who only cared about himself exactly as Beckett screamed out to the entire Alpha quadrant. It’s amazing he wasn’t jailed when he tried to tried to cover up his actions, the only reason he wasn’t was because of his youth at the time. Can you imagine this moron in the Dominion War?
@@flakzuludeusex2365 That seems to be Locarno in a nutshell.
No. She wouldn't go through with something like that.
"What up, Bynars?" Always makes me laugh...
I love how she casually mentioned dating a Bynar in, like, season 2, and in this arc she clearly understands their language.
I’m glad they pointed out the Tom Paris connection 😅😅😅
I don't see the connection ;)
Love this. Glad that they put the “Tom Paris and Nick LeCarno are the same” fan theory to bed with Rutherford and Boimler. Also, I love the small detail that when Mariner gets closer to the camera, she goes out of focus since the focus plane is on Nick in the mid ground. I’m guessing cameras on bridges don’t have auto focus.
It might subtly highlight Locarno’s own egotism that he would make the camera keep focus only on him no matter what.
And an extra treat is that Nova fleet is a dark reflection of Tom Paris' Delta Flight from Star Trek Online.
It's not a fan theory it's a production truth the name was changed in voyager due to rights issues over Locarno which is whi the same actors was cast and the Paris character has the same back story its not a theory its bts information that's been confirmed by those who worked on voyager....
Don't speak unless ya know
@@prestigemultimediagroup6436 I've heard the 'rights' issue refuted dozens of times now. Do you have a source to back up the claim it was a rights issue?
@@JaredThirsk I didn't say rights issue I said they didn't want to pay to use the character... and let's see sources well its been reported on several tines with quotes from McNeal Bragga and other creative on the voyager production its been said by them on several podcasts... thats why Tom Paris is a carbon copy of Locarno McNeal thought he was auditioning to reprise the character and in the original script the characters name was locarno... but what do I know
You know if you really think about it. Sito death is also can be blamed on Locarno. If they do not attempt the stunt, they graduate. She ends up on another ship than the Enterprise and is not sent on the mission. Remember Picard requested her so that she would get a fair chance so if she never got in trouble, chances are she doesn't go to the Enterprise.
maybe she would have. there is no way to know for sure.
If I remember right, Beckett was told Sito died during a battle in the Dominion War so...I'm confused. Which is it? Locarno's arrogance or the Dominion War?
@@DoctorWhoKage I never heard of that but I mean star trek can barely keep track of its continuity and is constantly retconing things like that time meniner was helping quark get the hollow image of kira for that weird alien who is also just burnt and wayon the same way locarno and Tom Paris exist.at the same time.
@@DoctorWhoKage Sito died in an undercover operation during the dominion war, see the episode "lower decks" on TNG. But the reason why Sito was on that undercover operation was because she was requested to by Picard. The reason why Picard asked for her is because he remembered her as wesley's friend in the academy. Locarno was the head of wesley's friend group, and motivated the group into doing a banned stunt, resulting in the death of a friend. He then proceeds to try to cover up said death as an accident, and not because of the banned stunt, and encouraged the friend group to do the same. Eventually, all of the friend group had to repeat a year, while locarno got kicked out. This event was a tarnish on Sito, and if she hadn't gotten involved in that cover-up, Picard wouldn't have requested her and she would have probably been on a different ship after graduating. So Locarno was a domino in getting Sito killed.
@@DoctorWhoKageno. She says Sito was murdered by cardassians, which is exactly what happened. Sito's escape pod was blown to bits by a cardassian ship during the federation-cardassian border skirmishes. She mentions the dominion war as another thing that happened after sito's death.
I'm sure Robert Duncan MacNeill loved the chance to revisit Locarno.
And as he mentioned that Locarno was nice on the outside but a jerkass on the inside.
OMG! One of the funniest scenes of this season! I love Lower Decks. It's some of the best Trek out there. Love the callbacks to old episodes, and trek movies too. Tons of easter eggs that you might not always see at first, but they give the show a phenomenal replay value. Like this episodes joke about Locarno and Tom Paris being the same person. 🤣🤣 I swear I didn't get that joke until I thought about it a week later, when I remembered that Robert Duncan McNeill did play Locarno in his pre-Star Trek Voyager days. That made the gag even funnier! I swear I love this show.
1:05 is the best part of all of this. Rutherfords frustration that others don't see it. Lol
Locarno is behind the whole thing all because he's wants revenge against Starfleet for kicking him for his reckless behaviour.
Being responsible for the death of a fellow student and then lying about it, is a reckless behaviour?!
But wait. Didn't he also take responsibility for what happened which helped his three other team members? Though then again, he did cause all of his own problems and then lied about it.
@@eleonorabilokin983 Oh yeah Locarno sucks.
He feels like a Lower Decks version of that asshat villain in Beyond
The Human Ego is it's own worst enemy.
At least Mariner stopped him before he could turn some random system Orange.
"Even after being kicked out of Starfleet, you fight against the only order that will accept you for what you are."
_"You, solely, are responsible for this."_
Star trek Orange war
Atleast he had that shield and didn’t detonate 7 genesis devices on the systems edge
@@electrohalo8798 7 genesis devices, huh?
THAT'S CUTE.
@@electrohalo8798
I'd be more concerned about him activating all the red matter along the neutral zone.
@@mattstorm360would you rather it be 7 nuclear warheads as the Belkans intended?
1:48
i love the THIS GUY SUCKS meme template this episode ended up creating. 🤣
Interesting fact...the 4 people that Starfleet was looking for all got booted out or quit under bad circumstances. By the time of this episode Crusher had left Starfleet and gone underground, Thomas Riker had joined the Maquis, and Seven got rejected and joined the rangers.
Wait, I thought that STLD took place after the Dominion War, how does Thomas Riker joined the Maquis fit in this timeline?
@@chantawatchantarapanya8479He had joined before the Dominion War. I think he was captured? I don't remember well.
Beckett is the face of this guy's downfall. The one that would not drink the coolaid. I'm proud of our girl sniff sniff
Ah, so you are not discouraged that she is spoiling this new home for the rest of them? 😒
@@TheNoiseySpectator - Mariner has a nose for egotistical officers and while Locarno was telling his followers that they were all equals, he was really seeing himself as their admiral. She knew that and wanted to warn people who might believe his lies.
@@TheNoiseySpectator It was gonna collapse one way or another. Locarno's planning skills... aren't exactly great.
@@Brasswatchmanhis ego is his downfall again
@@TheNoiseySpectator It was doomed from the start. Locarno was an egotistical, narcissistic, sociopathic jackass.
Ha ha "He looks like Tom Paris"
"I just don't see it."
You asked her to speak truth to power. Be careful what you wish for.
Mariner really steals the show in front of a wide audience. Beckett does not even realize she is an excellent marketer with her antics. 😂
“Uh the maquis would like a word”
Gold
I laughed when rutherford mentioned "looks like Tom Paris"....
Marriner truth bombs are the best part of this series!
The fact that her truth bombs just humiliate the most punchable jerk in Star Fleet history is just icing on top.
Only thing missing from this clip is Freeman's "Attagirl", that pride in her daughter doing what she does best: _the right thing._
He looks like Jack's evil brother or cousin.
2:02 Mariner's face during this part killed me.
Bold of Locarno to criticise incompetent commanders getting you killed. Does he not remember what got him kicked out of Starfleet?
He also claim he graduated top of the class, when he was expelled before completing his study. All in all... he definitely doesn't.
He's rewritten it in his mind. In his mind, he graduated at the top of his class and was scapegoated by Starfleet for Josh Albert's death.
Rutherford: “He looks like Tom Paris.”
Boimler: “I don’t see it..”
Rutherford: "They have like the same face. They look identical."
Boimler: : No, I just don't see it."
Beards - Natures masks.
Glasses are a goes number 2
2:03 is SO memeable
htis guy SUCksSSSSS
Man Mariner really came a long way since the first season. Still reckless sometimes, but she put it to good use.
"The Maquis would like a word..."
0:46 This made me laugh. It's like, really dude? You think you're the first to try this? XD
The Marquis were not based on outer space. They had space crafts and fought in outer space, but they were based on planet colonies.
This new society would have a space fleet for its home.
Of course they were going to do a Tom Paris joke 😅
She just kicked him and ran his shit lololol
Me: Expecting a Picard or Sisko monologue on the value of Starfleet
Mariner: THIS GUY SUCKS! *Kicks chunk of metal into Locarno, steals WMD, legs it*
Me, struggling to breathe while laughing: The last 25 years of Trek have been setup for this punchline
In other words, you expect Jean-Luc to reprise his speech about the "1st Duty ".
"he looks like Tom Paris" THATS WHAT I SAID! I thought I was the only one!
‘He looks like Tom Paris’ 😂
🤣
Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩
@@WarGrowlmon18 I believe there was some concern about royalties possibly having to be paid to the writer(s) of the The First Duty every time Nick would have appeared.
@@LuciousDeMorteThen the writer would've gotten A LOT of money!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nick's head clearly ain't operating at full impulse.
his turbolift doesn't go quite all the way to Deck 1
@@PetersaberHD His dilithium chamber is short a few crystals.
He's not firing on all thrusters.
He made the mistake of putting all of his photons in one torpedo bay.
This is literally the plot of the original Metal Gear, with Nova Fleet as Outer Heaven, Nick as Big Boss.
You think "Metal Gear" is the first one to think of this?
I read a Star Trek book, can't remember the name at the moment, where a collection of unrelated spaceships from around the "Alpha Quadrant" had put together their own spacefairing civilization based on the same principles.
Locarno was wrong about his "Dettrions" being the first.
Voyager encountered such an assembly in the Delta quadrant.
Beyond Star Trek there were the Ousters in the "Hyperion" stories, and there are even plenty of examples in _real life._.
Not sure, but I think the core of the Caribbean islands was formed by runaway slaves and refugees indigenous to the islands.
I think Captain Cook (yes, Captain Cook was a real pirate) finally retired to a private estate on his own island, somewhere.
And if you go to _Alaska today_ the residents will tell you there are even these days people coming to live in the backwoods who want to get away from the suffocating crush of "modern society".
So, what is so outrageous about Locarno and his compatriots starting their own thing, if nobody is using that solar system, anyway?
Oh shit, I see it 😂🤣
"THIS GUY SUUUUUCKS!" Absolutely brilliant performance from Tawny Newsome. Damn, this show is awesome.
Yes lmao
I recently rewatched the series and I keep quoting that every now and then lol
WROOOOONG. You do realize the story was first written, then animated and LAST voiced? With other words, not a brilliant performance ... just doing her job. There are plenty of voice performances that are brilliant, this is 100% not one of them.
Edit: Insulting now with words you do not understand? Get out of your cave and get a life.
@@Blue_Monkey There's a lot of nuance that goes into a voice performance, and that's what I was commenting on here. But go off, king. Mansplain away.
@@eddiepasa4173 Not really. Everyone with a consistent voice and some brains can do this. There are some examples in movie/tv history that are brilliant performances, this is not one of them.
Mansplaining? lol. You have no idea what it means. Ridicolus bad and obvious attempt at trying to shut down the discussion by claiming the other person is a [bad] person (replace brackets with the woke insult of your choice, like racists, sexist, etc.). Get a life.
"Attagirl"
I love how Rutherford and Boimler are talking about that Nick Locarno looks like Tom Paris
I feel that after Captain Freeman exclaims, "The man has lost his mind!" Dr. T'Ana should have said, "Yeah, he's an asshole," again.
Love how Mariner pointing at Locarno is already becoming semi-memeable.
Once again this proves that humans can still succumb to a new type of greed, the need to be recognized. Both Nick and Less Bunimego wanted to be famous, and they both let it destroy themselves. In the future there is still currency, it just changed.
Admiral Buenamigo said it the best himself during the season 3 Finale: once you make Admiral in starfleet, its so competitive that you basically hit a wall and have to resort to extreme (and often times unethical) methods to get any sort of significant recognition. it was the same thing with Admiral Pressman in TNG (willing to break the Treaty of Algeron just so Starfleet could have stealth technology equal to that of the Romulans), Admiral Leyton in DS9 (tried to initiate a Military Coup against the Federation president due to his belief that the Changelings posed a much greater threat to the Federation and Earth) and Admiral Dougherty in the TNG Insurrection movie (tried to forcefully and covertly relocate the Ba'ku from their homeworld to collect particles from the planet's rings which would destroy the planet's biosphere and render it uninhabitable for life)
The desires for attention and glory aren't new. We've had those as a part of the human condition for looooong time.
I am suprised how every superior officer knows who he is. Like, did they all hear about this incident or used to work with him?
It’s was a very infamous event in star fleet history.
If it involves Picard in any way directly or not, you know people will talk about it.
starfleet academy doesn't suffer that much casualties while picard was heavily involved. Honestly this was a shitshow that would've been a blip on the academy if nick would've been forward instead of being a spineless coward
They got a mission to find/protect him a few hours/days prior. They were briefed an who he was and thus knew him.
Supposedly such things rarely happen in Star Fleet (mostly due to Roddenberry's old screenplay rules), so unless it gets classified, then it would get talked about.
0:59 every lower decks has that guy in a towel somehwere
I had vocalized "Holy shit!" as soon as they explained who he was.
I remember the TNG Episode regarding that. And the comments about tom paris was just icing on the cake.
Have to Totally agree with the Doctor on this one. Locarion was about the biggest A hole cadet in Star Trek history. And Everything Mariner said about him was totally true also. He got a Cadet killed, covered it up, even blamed him for the accident. Wanted Crusher to call Picard a Liar, even resign from the academy himself to keep from doing the right thing all so Locarno could graduate a legend for doing am illegal maneuver at the Graduation ceremony. What an A hole!
I like the fact they use the gag of Paris and Locarno looking similar. When knowing Robert Duncan McNeill first appearing in the TNG, then to be part of Voyager.
Absolutely loved it with Marnier just ruins Locarno big tyrant speech. 😂
when he started naming out cannon names of startrek races.
i had to remind myself that this wasn't a parody of star trek.
"They're part of the first, independent, unaligned fleet in the Alpha Quadrant!"
"Uh the Maquis would like a word..."
OMG, I snorted my drink out of my nose just now... 🤣😂🤣😂💀
They mention Tom Paris which is the second Star Trek character that Robert Duncan McNeill played.
I like the detail on how Mariner is out of focus when she gets too close to the camera.
Of course Boimler couldn't see the similarities.
Tom Paris tackled him the last time he saw him. Very different perspective.
Locarnos mistake was thinking Mariners admiration for Sito extended to him as well
I wanna see more T'Lynn and T'ana interactions. "Reductive, yet accurate, doctor." "Bleep yeah it is. And don't you go BLEEP BLEEP BLEEPING BLEEP."
Gods, I love this scene....
Mariner has come a long way from the inebriated ensign who sliced into her crewmate's thigh with a contraband, rusty bat'leth. I'm proud of her.
He looks like Tom Paris
I don’t see it
They have like the same face, their identical!
(Squinting) No I just don’t see it!
LOL! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one is going to let Mariner be unrestrained again after that performance
Maybe I'm stretching here but I feel like this is also meant as a tongue-in-cheek reference to MGS: Peace Walker with the whole "Non-government military with a superweapon" thing.
The idea of bringing Locarno back as a dark counterpart for our Lower Deckers is so perfectly fitting that I'm kind of surprised it took this show four whole seasons to do it.
"That's my girl."
Freeman, no. You of all people do not get to say that after everything you did last season and have yet to even apologize for.
One of those problems that CAN be solved with a roundhouse kick...😂
GO MARINER!
This episode is a lot like the movie: "Star Trek II: The wrath of Khan" only I would call this, "Star Trek: lower decks: the Wrath of Locarno".
That's the point.
T'Ana cuts to the chase..."This guy's an a-hole!"
This is one of the greatest scenes in all of Trek. Brilliant.
Same voice actor played as Lorcano then successfully played as Captain Tom Paris that was Lt. JUNIOR grade at the time on voyager
1:55 OK, seems like she's going to play along, earn these guys trust, maybe drop a hint she's still on the Federation's side, wait for the best moment to sabotage their plans
2:03 Nope, ain't got the patience for that, we're rumbling NOW
Is it just me or does the animation look way smoother at times
There's lot more squash and stretch going on. I wonder if the outsourced to a different studio
@@HellecticMojoIt's the same company (Titmouse).
Yeah for Mariner for calling him out in his BULLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT😂😂😂
I love the argument about Tom Paris.
This guy suuuuucccckks! That made me laugh so much.
I feel this was a huge missed opportunity to make a redemption arc for locarno. I thought the last episode would be him telling mariner that sito is actually alive, that the cardassian report detailing her death had been a counterintelligence maneuver and that they kept her for questioning and then transferred her to the breen during the dominion war for forced labor, and that he was collecting ships to mount an attack on the facility because everyone he talked to in starfleet had told him to suck a lemon. he does this because he feels responsible that his screw up with the maneuver allowed picard to guilt-trip sito into going on what was clearly a suicide mission.
Both the writers and the actor who played him agree Locarno was irredeemable after he set up the stunt, pressured his “friends” into keeping quiet, and tried to throw the victim under the bus. In fact, making him a villain was how they persuaded the actor to come back to voice him.
till his appearance in lower decks i always had the head canon that nick locarno and tom paris were the same guy. he just used an assumed name to join starfleet so he didn't ride on his dad's reputation.. you know.. like mariner did
It just makes me think that Locarno was always this cracked, it was just him proving he was awesome to everyone. At least this time the only person killed was him.
haha how mariner went closer to the camera.
I may be late on this, but I just noticed the Nova Fleet emblem looks the burst pattern that caused him to be expelled in the first place.
I wonder what Tom Paris thought of this transmission