2008-2014 Ford F-150 & Expedition 5.4L 3v: Updated Spark Plug Replacement
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- Come along as we show you how to replace spark plugs on your late model 5.4l 3v engine.
These are the Parts and Tools needed to complete this job:
Latest Spark Plugs-
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Dielectric Grease-
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Nickel Anti-Seize-
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9/16" Spark Plug Socket-
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Long Reach Air Wand-
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Spark Plug:
Torque Spec- 106 inch lbs
Gap Spec- .041"
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These are the Parts and Tools needed to complete this job:
Latest Spark Plugs-
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Dielectric Grease-
amzn.to/2ramOTQ
Nickel Anti-Seize-
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9/16" Spark Plug Socket-
amzn.to/2qdcOEt
Long Reach Air Wand-
amzn.to/2rtXvMe Spark Plug:
Torque Spec- 106 inch lbs
Gap Spec- .041"
FordTechMakuloco are the brown coils and black coils the same?
dmoney8766 can't be since there for two different plugs.
Brian- just a question about using anti seize on the threads- assuming someone bought one new and almost immediately pulled the plugs and coated the threads with antI seize as sort of a early preventive maintenance would that be something worth doing rather than wait say 3 or more years and having so much trouble getting them out safely and intact?
dmoney8766 I believe the black were used until mid-2008, ford switched to brown end of 2008 and above when they changed spark plug design. This is what I’ve read.
FordTechMakuloco can anyone please answer this question. I have a 2009 Lincoln townxar that needs new spark plugs. Does this year have the redesigned spark plugs? Or does the 09 towncar spark plugs break
Your channel is so valuable to all of us 5.4 owners. Thank you for all of your videos.
Thanks so much for making your terrific video. I've been dreading replacing spark plugs in my '08 F150 for 25K miles! Then I come across your vid and learn the broken spark plug issues that plagued the 2004-2008, 3 valve engines were fixed in later year 2008 5.4's. I watched a dozen vids getting ready to tackle broken plug problems, even bought the Lisle tool before tackling mine, but you were the only one who recognized that brown coil boots meant you had the new designed heads and regular "normal" spark plugs. Imagine my relief when I pulled that first coil and it had brown plug boots!!!! Two hours later, after a trip to O'Reilly to trade for some new model, much cheaper plugs, the job is done and my blood pressure has returned to normal. Hat's off to you for taking the time to make and post your vid!!! THANKYOU!!!
Loll..I have a trip coming up and I was feeling the same. Glad to have found out we're in the safe year. Mine is long over due but now I'm feeling better about it
Same here. I bought a used, low mileage 2012 Lincoln Navigator L, which is the identical cousin to the Ford Expedition. Everything under the body and the engine bay is identical. Based on so many CZcams videos about the horrors of the plugs on the 5.4 Ltr. V8, I was dreading the day when plugs need to be changed. I've always changed my own plugs for the past five and a half decades and hated the proposition that I'd have to have the dealer do it. I will pull the coils this week to confirm that I have those wonderful brown boots and then I'll be able to rest easy until I swap the plugs next month. Thanks.
One thing I love about this channel is that almost all your videos also apply to 4.6 3v Mustangs, bless this channel
a good little trick to getting those plugs started, if your socket doesn't have an insert, is use a length of fuel line. stick over the plug, lower it in the hole, twist it a few turns, and pull it out. works like a charm!
Holy crap your video saved the day,thanks from a later mid 2008 5.4L owner that was freaking out!
I’ve been putting off changing the plugs on my wife’s 2013 expedition until I watched your video I thought they had had those shit plugs. I went and changed them just now! Thank you!
The 2013 expedition doesn't use that plug they went back to the small 12mm plug that are in the old 2v and 4v motors.
Thank you for this video. Saved me about $400! That is a good day any day. Very informative and love the step by step details. Perfect for anyone who is unsure about tackling this little project! THANk YOU!
I'm so glad I found this video. I have a '14 Expedition and I'm being quoted $300 to change the plugs because of the engine size. Nice to know it was updated in 08, to bad all the local mechanics have no idea.
I did the inside wrist tug instinctively to tighten down the plug because 106 inch/lbs seemed way to light. Stoked to see Brian does the same thing.
Thanks for posting! I have a 2011 Expedition with 124,000 original plugs. Was dreading replacing the plugs, until now.
Great video instructions. Job went well and learned more about my truck in the process. Very surprised on how easily the new plugs installed by hand until the dead stop. I uninstalled and reinstalled twice to make sure this was accurate. Once hitting dead stop, applied 106 inch pounds. 2012 Ford Expedition | 104k miles. Thank you again!
Been doing this for over 35 years, and I still fret when the old 3v comes in! Lol
16:44 Yes!
But I use PBlaster instead of WD40
I have found that it works best to spray let set 5 minutes - loosen a little - spray a little - retighten a little - Loosen a little more ---- repeat until it turns freely
Lifesaver, I have a 2008 Expedition Limited .. pulled that boot , had fingers crossed, and BAM! Mine is the "new" brown style. Both me & my mechanic were like Thank God!!! Lol
you have the best advice and knowledge for my for expedition. thanks
These videos are a gold mine.
2010 Ford Explorer Sport Trac with a 4.6 V8 and 133 K miles. I was getting a rumble in what I thought was the transmission at around 40 mph when it called for just a bit of power. When it shifted down a gear it was fine, going down the highway, it was fine. But when cruising around town at 30 -45 mph on a feather throttle, I would get this " miss" or "rumble"
I was looking around on CZcams and found this video, along with a few others. I thought I would pull the plugs and give it a try. The last time I had changed ANY spark plugs was in my 68 Mustang 40 years ago!
Using this video, step by step, using nothing more than new Motorcraft plugs, a 9/16" socket, a 7mm socket, assorted 3/8 and 1/4" ratchets and extensions, along with an air compressor and air wand...I did this job in my driveway in about 90 minutes. I had never been exposed to coil-over plugs or even fuel injector engines, but this video made the Trac run like new again! Thank you so much for this video! The only thing I did a bit differently was using a deep well 9/16 socket and put a layer of electrical tape on the open end of the socket. I left about a 1/2" of tape extend out from the socket and then folded it in and it held the spark plug in place with just that little bit of tape taking up the slack of the end of the socket. Thanks again!
Thank you soo much!!
I just did mine today.. Following all your advices and similar tools..
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Got my sparkplugs today from ebay.. And they worked perfectly..
I paid 40 bucks for them.. And thank God i had access to all these tools.. Took me 3 Hrs 😎☺..
Tip.. For the socket i couldn't fing a magnetic 1. I. Just put an electric black tape around the ring and it did an amazing job ☺.. May the lord bless you my friend.. Thank you!!
Yes !!! Thank u Sir! I’ve been meaning to change these plugs for about a year right now just checked I got the brown ones
Just did this on my 2010 F150. I followed your instructions to the letter and everything went smoothly. Thank you.
Gilberto Padilla how’s your 2010 so far?
@@moparcharger8642 Pretty good, reliable. I have 160k on it now. Ive always heard the phaser knocking, but it's not bad. Ive been using 5w-30 or 10w-30 since 90k thanks to these videos.
Brian is a rarity in today's World of parts changers. He actually learns and understands what is occurring, why, and how to fix it. When I started back in 1974 as a GM Tech we were taught how each part/system worked, how to diagnose, and how to repair. It has need a few decades since techs were taught this, so he is rare indeed.
Many of these modern systems have no serviceable or replaceable parts. The parts are designed to be made by robots or automated equipment. If it fails, the only action possible is to replace the bad part/unit. The dealership would require hundreds of thousands of dollars in advanced equipment to attempt repairs.
@@johnferguson7235 The other issue is the amount of time involved in doing detailed diagnostics. A guy doing warranty work doesn’t want to spend all day trying to diagnose a condition when he’s getting paid for a fraction of that time.
Awesome video you don't skip any detail!! thank you so much I'm getting ready to do this. Big help!!!!!!!!
Awesome tutorial on how to get it done right. Thank you!
Thanks a bunch !! I was told my 2010 f150 still had the "STUPID" plugs, relieved to know it doesn't !! yeaaaaa!!
I cleaned the coil plug boot and used anti seize compound on outside of boot! They come out so easy now after the bolt is removed!
Goob job! :) Keep it up!
I changed out spark plugs in my 5.4 3 valve NO problem at all. Used wd-40 and backed out all plugs 2 turns. Replaced with Motor craft plugs useing a 90* 3/8 rachet and 14mm 12 pt. socket. No missing and better fuel mileage.
I'm sure glad you made this video I just got done doing my VCT system and declined to change the spark plugs because I thought they would give me trouble now that I know they're the new design guess what I'm doing this weekend
Oh yeah, thanks for all the great videos, I learn lots.
Wow just saw the list of what I need. You rock can't thank you enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, this instructional vid was the best one I found for my application, and he explained it perfectly. I have an 09 F150 w/4.6L 3valve. So I was also concerned whether or not my truck would have the problem spark plugs or not. They were the 1 piece plug with the brown boots, so that was a relief. I had to buy a 9/16" spark plug socket though, and ended up buying one through my local NAPA. It is a 6 point with the rubber insert, which I thought would be fine.. 1st 3 plugs on the right side came out and went back in without any drama. Rear plug , drivers side came out OK, SEEMED to go in OK, but the boot would not sit properly when I put it back it. Tried another boot from another cylinder..still..not proper. Hmm..Finally, looked in the spark plug socket,and the rubber insert came out of the socket and was still on the plug..in the rear right plug hole which I can't even see down. Fun.. I tried to put the socket back on, it wouldn't go because when pushed down, the insert would spread onto the spark plug hex. I tried needle nose hose end pliers, just a bit too short. Tried every pick I had, until I finally managed to pull the insert off the plug and out. The problem was the insert held the plug too tightly. So I reamed the insert out on the drill press at high speed, until it was sized to just hold the spark plug lightly enough to hold it as the plug was being lowered into the engine, but not hard enough to give any problems removing it. Once I did that, the rest of the job was A-OK. Just take this into consideration before doing this job.
Redlinesixtynine usually you wanna put some dielectric grease or even some oil on the plug *before* you put it in those spark plug sockets with the rubber sleeve. Especially when they are brand new and haven’t been used much.
gorilla glue the insert in the socket. it happened to me too
Good video, thanks for the cleaning tips.
Good video bud! Hopefully the 5.0 is next!
Thanks for this great video. I changed the plugs in my 2011 Expedition with 130,000 miles. Didn't run into any problems,, they all came out without any drama. It's hard to say if the plugs were done before I owned this thing, but they haven't been changed in the last 70.000ish miles, so it was time as they were pretty worn out.
Thanks for the detailed information. Very good video. Top notch.
Just to follow up on my earlier comment. Changed the plugs on the 2011 Expedition. 1.5 hours, start to finish. Only hitch was finding a 14mm spark plug socket. Thank you for posting this! Saved me $400 + 1 day lost time for the vehicle.
+Signal Man Thank for the update! I have links to the spark plug socket that fits in the description too.
Thanks man great video, very helpful. I am glad I have the updated plugs. 2010 I just got it.
Still have your 2010? I’m thinking about buying one. Needs manifold gaskets replaced.
@@Mtomscha yes it's been doing good, 60k no problems. It's the 5.4 v8
@@dirtberger4533 awesome thanks for the feedback!
Love your videos, great information 👍
great info to know thanks for sharing buddy
Your the Best Ford tech
Another excellent explanation. Thanks
You are the man! Thanks for posting
Thanks. Great video. I do like your technique of cleaning and recleaning with compressed air. I was surprised at how much came out after you pulled out the plug. Shows that that step is very necessary. I notice you don't mention checking the plug gap. We were taught to be very paranoid about that and not to trust the manufacturer too much.
These new plugs are gapless or "pre-gapped" as it stands there is no way to gap it anyway
@@oregunningames8226 Is that true of the SP509? I've seen people say these plugs shouldn't be messed with because the platinum is brittle.
Thank you so much for doing this video! Single moms need help!
Lots of great Info on this and a few other users sites. One thing I JUST learned, if buying a motor that may have this issue, ask to check ALL PLUGS or at least pull the coil packs on all cylinders and check to make sure it actually has a full plug before starting. I'm the unhappy owner of a 5.4 Liter, that had 6 of 8 stock coils replaced with Accel coils, WELL, come to find out, 6 of 8 plugs WERE BROKEN OFF ALREADY!! Some slick mechanic figured out that, a higher voltage coil would just jump any gap and still spark what was left of each plug, I'm amazed the pieces didn't blow out over time, but now I'm the process of removing the electrodes & tips and starting over with new coils and Champion plugs, as I'll never even think of suffering thru this crappy Autolite plug design ever again. Also, ANY manufacturer that thinks plugs shouldn't be changed at 30K miles is just asking for bad maintenance and poor performance and fuel economy, as even double platinum plugs will burn .010 more of a gap in that amount of time.
Great video, thank you for the info.
Thanks this Really helped me out.
Best tutorial on the internet
Have a '03 F-150 5.4 2v factory calls for 5w-20. I've been using Amsoil 0w-30 since day one, many engine builders recommend this. Also change coolant every spring. 60/40 distilled water w GO-5 Zerex. Stock air filter but rip out stock reducer in fender. Replace with 3 in. PVC. Called Gott intake mod. for F-150
I did the gotts mod and put a MagnaFlow in place of factory muffler added a gryphon programmer and the truck performs so much better and gets 3mpg better.
13:50 that 3rd air cleaning wow. Great thorough work. Ty
good instructions . thanks
Watched your video . At one point i was a firm believer that the plug tips could never fall into the cylinder until i experienced it first hand . I have since seen this multiple times and have yet to remove a cylinder head to get them out !!!
thanks you made this job easy
Would you ever do a video when you replace the spark plugs on a 2017 Ford F250 with the 6.2 liter with the 16 spark plugs?
Thanks for the video it help I was a little scared to do them because of the pre 2010 f150 and keep up the great ford videos I enjoy watching them
I was lucky! Bought all the parts (plugs, coils, plug remover tool etc), but I saw the date of motor on my 2008 f150 and returned to Amazon all the parts for the correct ones and saved $$$!Thanks for the videos!
Great video! I have never seen anyone blow out the inside of the cylinder. Is that common practice?
That feel when installing the spark plug to me is always the crush gasket. You're really feeling for the eighth of a turn to crush that gasket on to the Head.
This style plug has a taper that seats in the head. But yes on the ones with crush washers.
who, and why dislike this video with so much good content,
you know of no for mechanics like this, cara wouldn't run, period.
Is pb blast good to use when doing a tune-up ?
Thanks so much for the video. I bought a used 2004 f150 and it has newer model of spark plugs on it so im guessing engine was replaced with a late 2008 model. It has the black coil boots on it. Do I replace the coil boots alone to brown or replace a set of new brown boot coils?
for a oil do you recommend for 2003 Expedition 5.4
Does 5.4 trition mid-year refresh, include new thrust washer bearing?
Blows my mind. Over 100 years into building vehicles and suddenly ford forgets how to make a damned spark plug.
This is unbelievable really!
Ford doesn’t make parts
@@brianveltri3107 Ford designed the engine and specified that plug to be installed. Disgraceful!
Gm was doing this long before ford started. Take the gm 5.7s as a example 😅
Anything that would make you want to replace the boots (other than tearing them upon removal)?
If have the old style plugs with box like tip, can you use the new style plugs
Is it possible to put these “newer design” plugs and coils in the older say 2007 heads, without changing/upgrading anything else?
Wasn't there an update to the three part spark plug to a one piece?
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taking a product and making it unusable or worse!
I have a 2006 f150 with the 5.4 L with about 180 thousand miles and I am about to change the spark plugs on it. I am not sure if they have ever been changed before but I was wondering if there is a new design of spark plug for that year and model that is less prone to breakage
Hi makuloco. Have you ever seen the plugs on the newer design come loose and give a tick/knock sound? I have brown boots on my 08’ and the tick sounds like it’s coming from underneath and not the valve train. Hope it’s not a roller follower and hoping just a loose plug. Stethoscope wasn’t able to pinpoint but sure sounds like the guys with vids that had loose plugs.
Edit changed the plugs, which were very bad but the tick is still there.
I have 163,000 miles on 2010 F-150. Do I need to change my spark plug ignition coils even though not having any issues? About to change plugs again
Is this pretty much the same process on changing the spark plugs on a 2009 Lincoln Navigator?
im doing mine in my 2010 4.6 3v tomorrow hopefully it will fix my crazy shudder in overdrive with slight throttle going uphill!!
Knox Crider did this fix it? I have the same problem. Also i also have a 2010 4.6, is it the same as the 5.4 in the vid? Basically did they come out just as easy
@@The_table_242 yep problem solved, I made a video on my channel doing it and showing why it was acting the way it was, check it out!! And yes they came out perfectly fine just like a normal plug should.
@@knoxcrider9835 10 years go when I had same problem it was plugged Cat. I get code after 1 year or so.
So if I have the brown boots I'll be fine? 2010 f150 5.4. Also I just did my exhaust manifold. Your video on that was a lot of help thank you for that! That was not an easy job Haha.
I have a 2008 F150, with the updated plugs, brown coil boots. What is the recommended mileage for spark plug replacement?
Is performing a coolant flush the same as on the other Ford, where you stuck the water hose into the de gas bottle? then to refill, do you refill through the radiator? Thanks for the videos.
what one fits the 4.6 2006 same issue?
Quick question: I have the 2008 Ford Expedition with the black boots. Can I replace the spark plugs with the new champion spark plug design. I didn't know about the new spark plug the last time I replaced my spark plugs. Going to replace plugs again. Thanks. Great video BTW.
@FordTechMakuloco my old man is looking into buying one of these trucks made before these upgrades (pre-2008) which do you think is more reliable? The 4.6 or 5.4?
I know you put it on the parts list below, but might want to add a flag on the video about using Nickel Anti-seize instead of Aluminum or Copper, which a lot of DIYers have most of the time. Just bought a 2010 F-150 5.4 3V with 112K and I really appreciate all the videos you've posted, they're a real help as I'm preparing to do all the 100K stuff (sparks, dif/TC oil/Power steering flush etc.). Thank you for these!
I only mentioned it because I was going to use Aluminum and a mechanic friend caught and corrected me before I started.
Still own this truck? Any updates? I’m looking to buy a 2010 f250 with the 5.4
Could I put these cylinder heads on my 2005 3v?
Hey thanks for your videos!! I have the new updated plugs but I still broke one. I have the lisle tool # 65600 . Will this tool remove the new updated plugs to? I only seen it used on the old style plugs
FordTechMakuloco i have a 2000 Ford F150 5.4l 7700 pack and wondering what are good mods for more power! Thanks.
My new plugs are pre-gapped to .035-.036, does this sound about right? They are the Motorcraft Platinum HJFS 24FP
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So, my F150 is a 2007 with a ford remanufactured 5.4L 3V engine with a date of mfg of "09/03/15." What do you think the chances of having brown boots under there are?
In any case, I guess, I'd better go ensure I've got some anti-seize action happening.
how much antiseize do you put on the plugs? I'm getting ready to order everything to do this as well as the front dif and the transfer case
I have an 04 ford f1-50 and i want to know if the year model can work on the the new boot design and the sparkplug so that i cant deal with the older style plug
Hi Makuloco, I just purchased a 2009 f350 v10 with 70,000. I'm thinking of doing the sparkplugs now, any pointers or recommendations? Thanks.
So what plugs do my 2009 f250 3v take? Cause I just bought 8 sp515
Will the updated 5.4 engine from late 2008 to 13-14 fit an older truck such as an 04 to 08 f150 or Mark LT? Will the pcm work with those newer engines even if they where swapped into a truck a few years older?
I have a 08 4.6l f150 ! Can you do some vids?? I can't find any
What part number spark plugs should i be looking for, 2007 expedition limited? Ive seen sp515, sp509,sp546, and sp432. Will you help me out with this? Thanks alot.
so I have a 2009 expedition king ranch 5.4 will that have the better plugs you mentioned? for replacement. bought it used a few years back should I just go ahead and replace the coils too??
Can you remove the new style if one broke just below the nut?
what is the mileage to replace the plugs its not in my owners manual and what do you think of the new C3 plugs and accel coils ?
Good vid...tks
late 2008, post September build engines got the new design (non-douchebag) spark plug, the engine in my 08 F150 was built 2 weeks before, and has the brown boots, with the douchebag spark plugs.
most of my friends refuse to touch them, I love doing them, they're easy, induction cleaning kit, mix a little marvel mystery oil in with it, and put an impact gun to them while they're still hot, they come out no problems, no breakage. Let the heads cool down after, put the nickel never seize on them, torque to 25ft-lbs as per spec, have a nice day.