Ford F Series 5.4 3 Valve: Broken Spark Plug Removal
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2015
- I bring you along in this video as I replace the plugs and coils in this 2005 Ford F-150 3 valve engine. I bust off a couple in the head and I'll show you how I get them out.
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Broken Spark Plug Remover for Ford Triton 3-Valve Engines
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Watching your channel is better than any car related program on TV. Better content, actual trouble shooting and tips and no commercials. Simply the best auto repair channel I have found so far.
+wyattoneable Cool! Glad you like it !
this guy is a natural
I love your attitude, If I can do it so can you! God bless you and I always have that out look at my job with others ;)
Keep up the great work and I felt as if I was right there with you :)
I agree with you
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Hello Eric O. This video really brought back some memories for me. I was working as the shop foreman at a Chevrolet dealership in Centerville Ohio when we had a customer with a 2008 Chevy Monte Carlo SS come in with what he felt was a misfire concern. Very much like the concern your customer had in this video. No trouble codes set, ran perfectly and all date looked normal. We would test drive the vehicle and could not duplicate the customers concern. The vehicle had the LS4 5.3 V8 engine with the 4 speed automatic transmission. The customer brought the vehicle into us several times over the next two months with the same concern. I finally ask the customer to leave the vehicle with me and authorize me to drive it that weekend. He agreed to let me do that. That Saturday morning I installed a GM Tech II into the vehicle and programed it for data loop record. I started driving , my wife was riding with me, and drove from the Dayton area to Lexington KY then on to Louisville KY then north to Indiana and then to Cincinnati. We were on the 275 bypass when I told my wife we had driven over 300 mile without and sign of a problem. About 3 miles later it happened. It felt just like more than one cylinder was misfiring. This happened for only a few seconds and I saved the data loop record. No more problem all the way back to the Dayton area. No engine light came on during the event. I got back to the shop and downloaded the data stream recording. No codes set and data looked normal. Then I noticed the brake switch suddenly showed on / off on /off several times. We were doing about 65 mph when the event happened. Problem solved - faulty brake switch causing torque converter to rapidly lock and unlock at highway speed. Replaced brake switch and no more problems. Customer happy and a lot of our technicians also. Weird tough one.
Champion came out with a one-piece version that supposedly eliminates this problem altogether.
Part number 7989.
Hey Eric O. I love watching your videos even though I don't wrench professionally any more. The method I used to use was a boroscope to inspect the cylinder and a shopvac reduced to rubber hose via duct tape to sneak in through the spark plug hole and suck up the debris. Smaller stuff sucks right through but for larger chunks that get stuck to the end of the tubing you gotta pull the hose out with vacuum still applied and then grab it off the end. Then I use the boroscope again to verify the cylinder is free of debris. I found it works best to rotate the crank by hand to get the piston to the bottom of its travel. Every now and then for chunks that I can't quite reach with the vacume tubing shopvac combo I'll blow air into the cylinder to move the chunks around a bit and try again. But I've always been successful in removing all debris this way. Ps not great on your shop vac choking it down that much so turn it off when your checking with the boroscope or blowing air in the hole. Thanks for the great videos. God bless.
This is exactly the thought I had. Glad to see this comment near the top.
Probably would have at least been worth a look with the borescope before popping the plug back in
I was thinking the same thing..if you can get a large removal tool in the hole..a small hose should fit to suck out debris..seems fairly simple logic and i'm no mechanic..just like learning to do new things..really enjoy the videos to the point i think i could do a lot of the things myself if i was patient and had the right tools.
We all thought the same thing. We can't expect Eric to be the master of everything. This is where we chime in. 😊
The gents who took the time to build that extraction tool are hero's. They really gave something to society.
Lisle makes some pretty good tools.
Would be pretty much game over without the thing. Brilliant tool
And the Ford engineers who designed the engine / plugs are demons from hell.
Maybe there just needs to be a spark plug company that makes them with maximum available wall thickness for extra strength.
If they cost twice as much would you buy some?
After watching these videos ( not to mention breaking plugs ) I think I would.
Heros!
This guy definitely knows what he is doing !!!! Very systematic in his diagnosis - not a scatter brain approach. He is careful and thinks ahead. Never bored watching him work and explain the task. He has my thumbs up every time !!!!
He's one of a kind...A good dude
Yep if there ever is a such thing he's got it!
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I think the engineers involved with developing the 3-vavle spark plug /engine design should be taken to the Hague and charged with crimes against humanity.
You mean camp Auschwitz
the 5.4 3v engine is a giant dumpster fire. gives the rest of the modular engines a bad rep
Lynch mob is more appropriate.
Shit, I did a cam phase on my dads 2006 f150 5.4 3v. Then my brother buys a 2005 f150 with the 4.6, ran great for the first 6 months and started sounding like a little tractor and having hard time starting and really rough idle, god dang cam phaser is out in it, I never had an issue with these plugs in either truck, but them Triton 3v engines are such garbage... The Triton 2v engines are not too bad but they like to blow plugs out at least the 5.4s and some of the v10's, and the 5.4 2v are gutless for an 8 cylinder....
Along with the clowns who botched the transmissions on so many Fiestas.
When I was working on jets we used to duct tape a smaller hose onto a vacuum and use that to get small foreign objects out of tight places. If you want to ensure you got it out, you can either use an empty vacuum and check the catch basket after, or you can tape pantyhose over the inlet hole of the smaller tube and it should stick to the hose via the suction if you are able to get to it.
The 5.4 Triton Engine: The official engine of the $1000 tune up.
Shade Tree Giants haha aint that the truth
$1000 tune up? I need to do the timing real bad on my 5.3 Triton as the phasers went out. Quoted $2400 :-( it's like $900 just in parts. #feelsbadman
that's about what a friend of mine spent recently on his Ford.
Another better idea from Ford.
@@KilroggWOW 5.3? what happened to the other liter? Did it rust and fall off?
I used SHop Vac, made my own "adapter" on it, taped small clear plastic hose , just big enough to go in sparkplug hole, and vacuumed that piece of porclain out!! Worked =)
Will a straw do???🤣🤣
That’s what I did too.
@@leonechevarria359 Try it,...but Suck Hard !!!!
How were you sure you got it, did you put a screen in it to catch what got sucked up?
Used a camera with phone app to look in cylinder.
Without a doubt, the best Mechanic channel on CZcams. Your videos are greatly appreciated, and the amount of detail in diagnostics to tips and tricks is astonishing. I could only hope one day to shake your hand. Thank you sir!!
It's so weird that this pops up a day after discussing this same issue with a 3v owner. Spot on demonstration.
I worked selling Ford parts for 35 yrs. I dealt with many moron and hack mechanics....parts replacers. What a pleasure to see a real Mechanic like yourself. Great .Thanks
then it means that you started in the distributor cap era . Then you know that if a brand needs to replace all coil at the same time as the spark plugs that it makes the the brand a total junk .To me if you do a tune up and need to replace the coils then you are not doing a tune up you are replacing the entire ignition system in fact . Not something to be proud of for a mecanical product if you ask me . thats the equivalent of replacing all injectors on a diezel engin when you change the fuel filters
Seems to me that motorcraft parts dont hold there weight. Id like to know where are motorcraft parts made . I like gm products there ac/delco like if u get the pro seem to get 200 to 300k use out of them . I think motorcraft cars dont as reliable. Tell me what you think .. Constructive critism but Im a mechanic ..Seeing a motorcraft plug break inside engine having issues with cars before they reach 100k from ford and trucks fail before 150k seekms there more a maitenance king when it comes to carparing maitenance cost to own breakdown the ford seems to be more prone to problems then other makes like toyota jeep honda and gm.
Bro. Best comment ever.
@@PackardBelltoll it's all cheap crap today. In my late age, I went back to toyota. Just bought a well maintained 1987 camry, 4 speed automatic, with 220,000 miles. Runs like a dream-boring as hell with no alarms or problems.
Yeah because the guy literally just ordering/selling the parts knows shit
"I don't know what you do if you snap the end of it off." Take the radiator cap off and put a new truck underneath.
Stall the engine over some rail road tracks, let the insurance deal with it
best advice ever !
Just make sure you change the radiator cap soon after.
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Only losers get mad when someone else is funny . You sir are a shit bag .
@Big Bill O'Reilly Nah, only a libtard would conspire to commit insurance fraud.
Imagine the Ford designer, a real Man of Genius, who put fresh eyes onto an old, simple, and bulletproof design; who took it upon himself to redesign that object in such a colossaly flawed manner... that other people would need to design new tools, and produce new CZcams videos... to undo the effects and the damage his redesign brought to the automotive landscape.
That guy is a true legend.
How is it that you don't have "never-seize" all over you and that truck?
Amazing.
I could never imagine that watching an hour of changing plugs in a ford could be interesting. I was wrong, but I really need to rethink my life :)
Great video.
(didn't watch all of it)
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You sir are TECHNICIAN/MECHANIC!!! As a fifty year veteran in the business it does my mind good that there are still a few ACCOMPLISHED Techs out there! And you are a great narrator and videographer!
A pleasure to watch you! I am now a subscriber!!!
Hate those plugs on them I will try Eric’s way next time i need to do one
Just wanted to let you know love your videos man teach me a lot as a home mechanic and working on others stuff. Your persona is just down to earth almost like an uncle! Hope the Shop is booming! Don’t stop your vids God bless -Dan
Great video! I used to be a Ford guy. I am very proud to say my last F150 went 275K before I sold it. Great truck. I can't afford new, so I buy vehicles about 5 years old or newer. The spark plug thing started happening around the time I was looking to replace the Ford. Bought a Dodge. Lasted about 5 years, rusted really bad. Bought an older Silverado. Brake lines and front hubs went bad- replaced with stainless and Moog. Still running great. Glad there's a good tool to fix the 5.4 though.
To remove the porcelain pieces, i used a spring grabber with a cotton ball covered in a thin coat of petroleum jelly. Swabbed around inside of cylinder to pick it all up.
Then flushed the inside of cylinder with starting fluid to break down any jelly still in cylinder. Works great.
First and foremost i want to say that you did a great job! I own an auto repair shop and we have done these several times through the years and you did everything the way we would have. Just a couple quick notes though...try starting with the rear ones first with the engine warmed up as the heat will help expand the threads on the aluminum heads helping the threads break loose from the plugs. The rear ones are always the easiest to break due to retaining more heat over time from being furthest from the fan and the cooler air that normally hits the engine. We also remove them by hand instead of with air tools being that air tools aren't as forgiving lol. I don't know how many we've seen over time where all but the rear ones have been changed. A lot of shops wont change those 2 for fear of this happening and i assure you they don't tell the customer. It's BS but that's the reality of it. But yea...Great Job and keep plugging away...no pun intended lol.
That is why asking to see your old parts is never a bad idea. If they are missing 2 plugs you know there is a problem
@@taylorjtaylorj Maybe they show you 6 and 2 from last job make 8
@@maxwell6504 No...i do. Linda is my wife and the you tube is just in her name is all. But does it really matter anyway?
The tsb from Ford says to use an impact for the obvious reason the jarring of the impact helps break the plugs lose. Also the night before, Get the engine up to temp. Pull the coils fill the plug tubes with the special carb cleaner Ford recommends let that eat away at the carbon after you run a half can of sea foam through it. They will come right out
It is relatively easy to remove the battery, and the ECM, so I do so. I always put nickel anti seize on the threads, and do this hot. Seems to help. I did a complete timing job at 157k and replaced everything on the front of the engine, including the oil pump with a high volume melling. The best tip I can give on these plugs is to cut three longitudinal groves in the LH Lisle withdrawal tap, and crank that insulator down to allow the tool to grab. Still, the guy that designed these plugs should be shot. It's not like it would have been difficult to predict what would happen with this design.
Great Videos! After extracting the plug portion, I use my borescope to see if there's any debris down in the cylinder, if there is, to get it out I use a piece of fuel hose taped to my shop vacuum and push it down into the spark plug hole and move it around. Then recheck with the borescope and 99% of the time the shop vac sucks it up. Hope this helps someone!
Thats the way how I did it in the past, works every time!
This is the best video on the experience of changing out these hellacious spark plugs - thanks for the full-detail share.
I bought a full set of coils and plugs as well as the broken-plug tool.
Seven of the eight plugs/coils were just fine to replace, nothing crazy.
I did run a bunch of Sea Foam through the fuel tank through about 750 miles of driving before I attempted the job.
The motivation was that my #8 cylinder was misfiring on my 2008 Expedition per FORScan, which has worked great for me.
Truth be known I was driving with rough running engine on hills for at least 10 months - had a lot going on in that timespan that kept me putting off the job.
Also, over time I got to understand what the problem was caused by and so here I am. 2 garages confirmed it was a severely screwed #8 cylinder.
Well, #8 on my engine is deep on the driver side, but not too bad to access.
I tell you, I bought that 3-tray mobile tool kit from Tractor Supply and it was well worth the money - 3 tiers of 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 inch SAE and Metric - just thought I'd mention.
I bought the full 8 coils and spark plugs as my Expedition has 170k miles on it and I want it to get to 225k before I do something about another vehicle.
Well, don't you know that the #4 cylinder gave me all the problems, the hardes one to get to.
On the 2008 Expedition the computer wasn't in the way, and just disconnecting one of the major connectors gave me as much access as I was going to get to the old #4.
I pushed and pulled a few other cable bundles out of the way to get back there, deep on the passenger side.
I just couldn't get the leverage with any of my 3/8 or 1/2 inch socket extensions, lying across the engine to get the best angle.
I gave it all I had under the circumstances and the plug would not budge.
So, feeling like I really want all plugs changed, I am happy to have a garage do that one plug, and I even have the plug and the broken plug removal tool if the garage needs it.
There were a lot of cheap knock offs on ebay for the tool but I spent $119 special order from AutoZone - assuming that has a higher probability of being well constructed with good materials.
My regular garage has gotten fat and happy over the last couple of years and wanted $600 to replace just the one faulty plug and coil.
I spent almost that much to do 7 of the 8 plugs/coils myeself, and am going to try to find somebody to take on #4 cylinder and keep it under $100.
My gut feel is that #4 will break off. I'll give an update - if #4 doesn't break I can return the tool - I checked that out in advance with AutoZone.
What has always work for me is: After the extraction I have made a device to connect a piece of plastic tube to my Henry vacuum cleaner with turbo button and put that tube down through the spark plug hole and it pulled all the crap out of there and problem solved. it always worked for me.
"First things first, im going to blast out that rear hole"
After that comment, I couldn't help but have naughty thoughts myself!
😂
Eric , you remind me of Aaron Tippin , my fav country artist, not only in looks, but you both seem like honest to goodness Americans who care about and love your family and others , and someone who does things right . always ,and someone we can look up to and emulate. Thanks for helping me be a better person .
You have to get a camera probe down in there to see if there’s anything broken off in the cylinder. Air-blast whatever you can out of there. Another method is to place in a 1/2” plastic vacuum tube-connected to a Shop-Vac (make an adapter) and vacuum out whatever particles might be down in there. The anti-seize is the savior, though... 🤷🏽♀️
I've been watching your channel for around two weeks now. in my opinion it's by far the best automotive repair/information channel on CZcams that I'VE seen. thanks for what you do for us......... I subscribed today.................
I remember this is the 1st SMA video I saw. Then I got hooked to SMA great channel bud.
Great video as you clearly describe what you're thinking here. One suggestion when leaving the extracted plug out when you start hopefully getting the porcelain chips out... Maybe get a small shop vac and jamb the hose in the spark plug hole before you start the engine? The push and the sucking might work pretty well. Just a thought.
A very thorough description of the process, with emphasis on the critical parts (cleaning for one); discussion of alternatives and technique.
We use a shop-vac reduced with a copper tube that fits through the spark plug hole. It either sucks it into the shop-vac or it holds it to the copper tube. Works awesome
Great videos, better then any how-to videos on tv or the internet. Awesome job.
That's a great idea. I learn as much from some comments as I do watching these how to videos
Thanx for the tip!!! will try that!
Putting a pair of panty hoes or some kind of fine neting as a filter also tells you if you grabbed any out and if so how much
This was going to be my reply. I searched the comments first before replying just in case. I was going to say to use a thin plastic tube, but copper might be better to go all the way around the edge of the piston. Bad Ford...Bad
If you slow it down and look closely you can see the piece of porcelain shoot out just before it fires when he starts cranking, seems to work well enough.
I'm an ASE mechanic, and I really love and enjoy watching and learning from your experience and expertise !
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Ricky Dockins are you a mechanic? Serious question
Man, I have to say, you made the removal of the broken plug look easy. Thank you or this video. A pleasure to watch a mechanic a who knows how to fix stuff. from the Geezer Gearhead.
You have reminded me why I don’t try this stuff anymore I have seen some of your diagnostic stuff and they also remind me why I bring my car to a quality shop!!! It’s not like the old days when you used your ear 👂 to make adjustments now you need a computer just using them sometimes aggregates me can’t imagine your patience level to deal with the new stuff you have to deal with these days keep up the good work!!!
Of all the on line videos on automotive repair this is the best one ever. Easily explained and smart. Thank you.
I don't even turn wrenches but somehow came across his videos. I can appreciate someone who takes pride in his work and and is very skilled in his trade. Thumbs up and a new subscriber!
Thank’s for showing, I’ve done a few fords with the same results, I noticed you were lucky not to have to tap the head,for new threads,now that feels awful when you know all the aluminum that the tap is cutting may still get past the grease on the tap,but I would do what you did after taping by running the engine to make sure all the peaces were blown out,all & all it’s never an easy job, l one time had one come in with the plug leaking Exast from the far right plug & asked if we could send it out to the dealer,so my boss sent it,so to heli coil the head in the truck for just that one spark plug the bill came out to $500.00 so needless to say we had to do any other trucks that came in with the same problem because of the cost.thank God I retired I’m free!!!!!
VERY NICE ERIC ! Your smooth as silk brother , even in the heat of battle with these 3 V plugs….
Your patience has inspired me and I really respect your work ethic.
Please continue to do what you do, as you are one of the best CZcams has seen in its history.
Your videos are consistent, and extremely easy to follow.
Thank you for sharing your experience and patience with us all.
Thanks brother your a jewel 💎, a cut above, ✅. The best in my eyes.
Take care, and I will continue to soak up your experience and use it for my own sanity !
Be safe and keep em coming my friend!
My method for taking out spark plugs is I pay a mechanic like you to do it, and I don’t buy Fords.
I dropped an o-ring from fuel injector down in a cylinder once. I took a small hose and duck taped up to the end of my shop vac hose and stuck it in there and it came out stuck to the end of the hose. I imagine you could get porcelain out like that. You could verify you got it all with a usb snake camera.
This was my exact thought.
Good note Frug,,, I use the small hose and medium shop vac idea for a bunch of issues removing unwanted material in small places(:
Fuckin a-plus much more succsess rate doing it with vacuum.was my thought also,imagine designers knew the problem.but also knew they had shops in there pockets too make some kickbacks on repairs.just like cancer fixing.they make more money on death than meds to cure illness.just my thought.!°°
Yes, or a slim stick with a wad of duct tape on the end to pick up crumbs
I was thinking Hubba bubba, a straw, and a mullet
WOW! What a thorough vid. I was glued from beginning to end. Nothing was untouched. Spark plugs 4 and 8 was especially informative in removing them broken or unbroken. GOOD WORK*****
That was a 5 ***** for me Thanks again!
I'm very glad I watched this broken spark plug video. You have a great voice easy to understand what you are saying. This is the first time for me to watch your show and you are doing a great job explaining how to extract broken plug! Now I can get to work on the 6 plugs that I broke on my 2006 F150 4×4 thank you very much!
Eric O we can always use a fresh perspective on an old problem. Love the work you do. Great video 📹
"They don't put never-seize on them at the factory - I'll tell you that. I think they put loc-tite on them." - Eric O.
They use flex seal at the factory yet ha
Once I had astuck rear spark plugs in 360 fe.used kroil,about aweek still stuck,heated head around plug with propane torch used hand impact driver,2# sledge in desperate measure, and tightened! In right hand direction more kroil,more time then more heat,plug then came out using long breaker bar,gradual increasing pull.ithink sharp impacts by air impact with that usual slack may tend to break things easier than hand impacts with tight socket but I don't know also, a fe. Head is a lot easier than that long reach plug head you were working on I'm thinking.good work mister,ienjoy your videos,thanks.
I watched this abortion (just because I've heard of said abortion...AKA 5.4L)
funny how Ford when they have a "hit" it's out of the park (4.9L, 5.0L 7.5L, 7.3L,) and the new Godzilla gasser seems like it's gonna be a revolutionary engine..when they have a "miss" (3.8L , 2.9L , 5.4L it's beyond a cluster)
I used to sell Fords in one of my retirement jobs. If I bought a new pickup, it would be a Chevy! My new ZL 1 Camero kicks Mustangs ass! Although the new GT 500 should be a rocket. I beat Hell Cats mainly because the Hell Cat is heavier. I DO like them all though;
it so they do not blow out so quick / they are famous for blowing out/ I heard torck them down 10 inch lbs more to help ??? on the first gen . they changed them on the 2nd gen
Always enjoy watching a skilled tradesmen doing his craft. Thanks
What was the past for 74 years I've worked on a few cars. I do the same thing you do. Except for one exception. I have used the cone shaped attachment on my vacuum cleaner cut it back and put a rubber hose on just suck any particles out.. hopefully this is helpful to you. You can take it with a grain of salt. As work for me in the past. Enjoy watching your channel especially when you call crap crap..
you stated that " there are probably a whole bunch of videos of this on you tube ,,and you probably should have researched it"
Eric we dont care if there are 120000 videos of a given repair ..we want to see YOUR videos
Amen
deepsquat600 Appreciate that thank you
Pomona Bill I
what he is trying to imply is that this is a common problem with Ford Products
@@guytremblay1647 let's address your unnecessary comment. - No, actually what he clearly said was that he didn't care to repeat content.
I changed the plugs on my neighbours 04 f150 with 200 thou Klms, I ran 2 cans of Seafoam though the vacuum line in the combustion chamber. I choke it out and let it sit then drive it. I do that four times with half a can each then hit with impact. Bullshitkorner has a video on it. i didn't break one which i was shocked at cause i have the worst luck.
negativejeff Ok great tip thanks
Hate those broken spark plugs. One of the best videos on getting one out that I've seen. Nice channel.
I know I’m late to this video but another great video Eric. I’m watching this again because I had a customer of mine just buy one of these and I suspect I’ll be doing exactly this to it.
The new procedure involves coating the tip not the threads with high temp nickel anti seize. Regular antisieze just burns off.
Wow, you've now steered me away from the 3 valve engine ford trucks. I don't even want to deal with that....
Love your videos, keep them coming! 👍
Not the most powerful things on Earth, and definitely not "modern", but you *can't* kill a Windsor. 30,000 mile oil change interval? 50 miles with a missing core plug (and no coolant)? Plugged up EGR and a siezed smog pump?
Shrugs and keeps on trucking. Now, the AOD behind it, on the other hand . . ..
Like they say more moving parts to break
I just saw a video where the guy said it helps to dump a can of seafoam into a 1/4 tank of gas and run it down, he said it helps loosen or break up the carbon that binds the plugs to the aluminum head. He also suggested using a hand ratchet and turn slowly. Will be watching more videos on these as I just bought an '05. Seems to be ok but has a slight engine shudder and this video may be helpful in case I decide to take a shot at DIY. Keep up the good and "helpful" videos.
I had an 04 and I had already heard of the long reach plugs. I changed my plugs every 80k kilometers just because. I also noticed the first time that because of the design of the coil boot a ton of road debris gets past and collects around the hex of the plug. A long pick and a blow nozzle or vacuum to clean the tube out. I now have a 14 w a 3.5 ecoboost and I do the same thing. Except ford designed the coil to cover the entire spark plug tube so they stay much cleaner. Great job Eric O!
Excellent technical ability and showmanship. Great technical knowledge and it seems like you enjoy what you do.
The FordTechMakuloco guy uses the OTC tool. Ford says to soak the plug with carb cleaner first. Then try and remove it.
He doesn't work for Ford anymore. He works for himself now. He is doing a fixing Fords across American this summer for those that can't afford the dealer flat rate charge.
Great Stuff.
I use the OTC tool. And have an extractor too. I sold my Ford but my friends havent learned yet. I have LOTS of experience on these plugs. I only put antiseize on the shroud and lower threads very lightly. If you goop it on it will run on the porcelain and cause misfires. I also put dielectric grease on the top of the plug before installation to help keep moisture out of the boot.
This is just a guess, but perhaps removing the back plug on each bank 1st while the engine is still hottest would help. If I lived in New Youk, you would be my go to. You're one of the best wrenches I have ever seen Eric!
Big thanks for the in depth process on this, you make the broken ones look easy. I have an 08 with the 5.4 3 valve 85000 miles, sure am gonna pray it goes easy when I attempt to do them. My truck runs smooth and idle, just does that bucking under load around 45-50 ish. Might have to look into the injector first as I keep hearing about those.
I'm curious since it's been a year since your comment. Did you end up doing the plugs?
@@dr_beetus Did mine this last summer. Tried all the tricks with warming up the engine, putting some lubricant down near the plug and don't think any of that worked for me as 6 came out broken. The lisle tool was a life saver, I got all the broken ones out with that. You can try the loaner tool from Autozone if you don't have the Lisle tool on hand but the Lisle tool is built a lot better. I recommend packing your patience and take your time, this is not your average spark plug swap. I used the updated motorcraft plugs, they are not cheap from local auto parts. If you by them online somewhere be careful as there are a lot of counterfeit ones out there.
"They've engineered this tool quite well." Maybe Ford should try that....
I watched your video like I was watching an episode of Star Trek, and it was fun and educational. Thanks! Good job!
Just always good to come along ! A Big thank You !
High pressure vac with threaded reducer into the plug hole removes the cylinder debris. Simple and cheap solution. Great video.
I did the plugs in my 5.4 3v expedition with 108k miles. I sucked a whole can of Seafoam in through the brake booster vacuum line. Let it sit for 15 minutes. Took it out and ran it like I stole it to blow all the carbon out. Then removed all 8 plugs while the motor was hot. ALL 8 CAME OUT! WOOOHOO!!!
buy a GMC next time . The only thing you'll need is a ratchet and a socket and you wont even need to change the coils either
@@guytremblay1647 the worst part of owning a gmc is telling ur parents ur gay
@@mdss4310 thanks for showing me that i've been lying to myself and all those hotties that i screwed my entires life for all those years .Good thing i had my chevys all this time to have fun with them and bring them home with a permament smile . Had a few Fords a couple of years and now i see why i never got laid during that time period .Now that i know that i'm gay i will go back to Fords
@@guytremblay1647 GM... GMC... are you serious? GM is pure crap today. Wake up already.
@@drdysl3xia795 hard to wake up more than i am now since the company i work has a fleet of 25 pickup truck and four 4500 all GMC Sierra and Sylverado from 2014 to 2019 and we never had any problem with any of them so far beside normal waer and tear from where we put them thru and trust me we put them thru a lot of shit in the forest cause thats where we work and you wouldn't believe what kind of terrain we put them thru all the time . . Sure if you buy a 1500 you maight have some problems a bit more but all ours start at 2500 in size
I know this is an old video, but I wish I would have found your channel along time ago! Broke 5 of 8 in my 2004 5.4 3v, 170,000
Sell that sucker, FAST! :)
Those 2004 ford trucks are known to be lemons. Google it.
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If u still have it, u need to use champion plugs. When u change out. They've made them from the start and they're the traditional 1piece design made for this engine. You will never have to worry about this again. I'd still use some nickel anti-seize though. Seems like his method worked out reasonably well with only the two back ones breaking, but there are alternate methods as well. Some people soak with PB blaster overnight then they they loosen threads a quarter turn and spray some more and let soak before you start. It was only for a couple of years it's between 2006 and 2008, after that they redesigned.
i just found your channel today 8 years after you posted this..THANKYOU! torque stalled that ol girl till the temp gauge climbed to 3/4 all 8 come out no never seize on any of them.
I have a F-150 2006.
I broke 4 spark plugs and remove the broken pieces with the same tool. Then I install different spark plugs and so far I changed 3 times with out problems.
Great video yours.
First off, great video. To get the broken porcelain out, try blowing it out of the cylinder with a burst of compressed air. That seems to work well. If that doesn't work, start the truck like you did.
I always learn new things from your program, thank you for providing entertainment and know how.
The best mechanical practices I've ever seen!
I'm about to do this for the first time on a 2007. I have the tools and nickel neversieze ordered from Amazon. I was very hesitant until I saw this video. You explain the process very well. Thank you
How did it go?
I really enjoy your vids. I had an 07 Expedition and broke 7 out of 8 plugs. I still have the Lisle 65600 broken plug remover kit. Took me an hour to extract each one. If I were to do it again, I would fill the plug wells with PB Blaster and loosen-tighten back, loosen a little more, tighten/loosen over and over until they work loose to minimize chance of breakage. Ford changed the spark plug (Motorcraft SP515/546) design to prevent this breakage plus using plenty of anti seize on the threads and extension. Like you, I just ran it open hole to let debris fly out, and it ran fine afterward. Good to check/replace these plugs every 50k mi. to prevent seizure and also prevent the low grade misfires as the electrodes wear. Vehicle was totaled around 180k, but ran good up until then.
He only broke one removing the plugs with a smoking hot engine
2. He broke 2.
Love this, I had this worry until a month ago when I had them done and was told I was the proud owner of a two valve, odd for a 2004!
Nice job man. you handle the anxiety pretty well. I would be nervous as a cat.
Panther Piss soak while I let it run to get hot, Same way I take out O2 sensors, then I jury rigged a vacuum nozzle set-up with a piece of metal tubing and a PVC Cap then vacuumed, cranked and vacuumed at same time ,then blew it out while cranking with the long nozzle like you have, while cranking ,running. it is still a nightmare of a job but I have always been successful.Been a Tool Maker for over 50 yrs and that's my method also using the same Lyle tool extractor set up. Great Vid Eric keep up the good work
Fantastic! My hat's off to you, sir! Well done, mostly on keeping your composure and temper...had it been me, I don't think I would have made it past the first one snapping :) Two cars I hate to work on, Fords and Mini Coopers...just shoot me. Thanks again for filming this and sharing with us, have a great week!
TheTexasCoder Some day I'll loose my mind on camera for you haha
When i break a spark plug and loose porselin, i take my air brake blead vacume and stick it down into the cylinder and move it around a bunch until i hear it start strughlein... its worked 15 times
good idea
WTF?
Strughlein?
Robert Britton I literally just caught the meaning of your comment, I’m dying man! This is the funniest thing all day!!!
John Hasty 😂🤣
I could feel the suspense while tapping the broken plug. Almost as good as an old Friday the 13th movie.
I replaced my plugs in '05 F250 at 115K miles back in 2015. Read all kinds of stuff on internet about how to prep before removing. I used sea foam to clean out combustion chamber then removed with engine cold and hand tools. I tried the break it loose then squirt penetrating oil and then work the plugs back and forth. I also bought the removal kit in case any broke. 1st one came right out so I thought I wasted money on the removal kit. but after that first one I broke the 7 remaining plugs and used the kit to get broken ones out. Also used shop vac with rubber hose reducer to suck out the broken pieces. All the plugs had the electrode worn all the way down to the porcelin, I'm surprised it was running OK. When I decide to remove the plugs in my mustang I will try this guy's method.
Built Ford tough. Tough to work on!
I hate Ford
@@bilbobaggins4710 You ever have the GM 3.4L V6? what a piece of shit that was!
@@bilbobaggins4710 they always have issues of that kind
LMAO
feed many shops kids. thanks to their dads working. thank you FORD motor co.
I use compressed air with a long bit of brake line. I's my favorite tool, much like your air gun, except longer. It will eventually shoot it up and out. Time for safety glasses.
I have seen that done on other videos .
Wyr
God bless
I used a compact Ryobi vacuum from Home Depot, made a makeshift extension tip that fit into the spark plug tube, and vacuumed out grime and sand etc that was in the spark plug hole (before removing the spark plugs) a lot of little crumbs came out, a lot more than expected! It may work if you can manage to tape up an extension that’ll go down to the top of the piston!
You gave me so much false confidence today!😂😂😂😂 I ran the lisle tool today and got snubbed, had to go by the oem tool, so, hopefully tomorrow I’m able to actually finish the job. I’m on the last chance with this plug too. Hopes and prayers on this one.😂😂😂
I agree with your positive remarks about Wells. They have put a lot of energy into education and thought, with an open channel of communication with mechanics everywhere. That means a lot.
Got to love the Fords. One year, the plugs blow out, the next year u can't get them out with dynamite. Then the injectors hydraulic the engine or ruin the worlds most expensive cats THAT r so much fun to change with their slip connections. R flanges to expensive ?The fun of laying over the top of the engine with your elbows being poked with the sharpest objects in the universe. And Eric breezes thru it like its nothing!!!! And changes coils TWICE. And is finished in time for his peanut butter and jelly lunch!!
Bill Rimmer Yes sir you can not skip the PB and J !
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they do this on purpose. ford does not like DIY people. own a ford?, there's your problem ladies!
i want an OLD dodge V8.....a t350 chevy trans....on a ford frame.....and id have the best of all worlds
LMAO!!!! Great reply!!!
Awesome video. Makuloco recommends blowing out the cylinders with compressed air, with one of those curved long-nosed air blow guns that you attach to a compressor... I did that on my 5.4L and it blew out debris from inside the cylinder / spark plug socket quite well, although mine is not the dreaded 2-piece design (later model).
My local garage won't do my spark plugs, they changed one that blew out while driving. Guess I'll take a gander at it. Thanks for the insight. Helpful hints
The suspense was KILLING me! I tried this on my 06 Expedition once. I got the first two and then I "chickened out."
+K&S Locksmith Service Ahhh man !
When I worked at Ford, my friend was a senior master tech that told me to use an impact,he would always get those things out without breaking using an impact wrench so that's how I've done it for years and have only had 2 break on me.
What like an impact driver with a 3/8 bit?
I have an F-150 05, it got 278,000+ and still going strong!! But I've had to change a couple transmissions!!but it had one break off of course it's in the back, and I did not have the tool at the time, had to have the dealer take it out!! the new spark plugs are made all in one piece instead of two separate pieces like the old motorcraft spark plug, put that tool works remarkably well😊, but I ended up buying the tool cuz my brother had saying your truck and 6 out of 8 broke and the tool works excellent!!
I have used a few tools to remove these. The best one I have used is the lisle one. Just a tip! Only push the porcelain is as far as you have too, I usually go couple thread from bottom out on the pusher and this will greatly reduce the broken porcelain. Also, Use the one piece spark plugs and antiseize the tube not really needed on the threaded part.
I was always afraid to try them hot , but may try it now . When they drive in i try to mist water , or seafoam, or something to maybe break up any carbon around plug , Prob does nothing , but makes me think i am . I then let completely cool . I go and snap each one loose , less than 1/8 of a turn , just got to be careful , i think anything over 33 foot pounds can snap them off . I spray a bit of Carburetor Cleaner, in each hole and walk far far away . Come back in a hour or so and try removing . A lot of them come right out , but if still hard to turn , i let soak longer , and longer And go work on something else . The carb cleaner eats the build up around the plug where a penetrating oil does not . May do nothing but i also never seize the crap out of those . I had run ford trucks since the early eighty's , a lot were older ones but good ones. Then that spark plug design was what made me buy a different brand of truck after all those years.
And the first time or two the removal tool is i bit on the scary side . And not sure if helps , but i start them with out a plug too , as that missing porcelain seems scary . My thoughts are if one does get all 8 out in one piece , they need to drop everything they are doing and go play the lottery , because it is your lucky day .
wtbm123 All good advice Terry. I agree on the last comment. I have not done all 8 or 10 successfully yet however the day I do I know that is the day to play :)
@@SouthMainAuto please say this is not so.
I have changed plugs in 04 -08 3v at least 30 of them only broke 1 plug but I don't get them hot, soak them, nor the impact them. Guess I am one lucky SOB .
We did get one from another shop that had broke one and tried to remove somehow when we got it tried the removal tool but it would not bite pulled head and it had been shoved down and bent over. Only way it would have ever came out was pulling head.
I always go after the difficult ones first !
This guy one of the smartest guys when it comes to electrical
Gotten good at this plugs and coils in about hour and half ask me how lots of practice on the same truck 5.4 are a nightmare finally went to Ford plugs and coils this time going on 6 months without a problem thank god
I hate doing these plugs on that engine. They suck! LOL I saw a ford dealer pull those plugs out with a 3/8'' impact gun after taking the truck on a 20 min. ride on the highway. They said it is easier and faster to do the plugs that way then the other way. Great video
That was a great video!!! Very through and professional as always. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us. And thank God I don't own any Ford Triton Engines. Lol
And for the record, I watched the entire video, it was very entertaining, I couldn't stop watching.
Try using a vacumn cleaner to suck out any broken plug pieces.
Here in Central Florida we have two of those 5.4 F150s at work with more than 300K miles. When you can keep them away from the road salt, they last pretty well. The only real problems we’ve had with them is sometimes a couple of the coil packs sometimes start acting up intermittently after a very bad storm (high wind & heavy rain). However that’s not an expensive fix.
The video was fantastic and well explained. I just broke off a few and watched the video, bought the tool and all worked out. Thanks a lot!