I Was the Fastest Girl in America, Until I Joined Nike | NYT Opinion
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- Mary Cain’s male coaches were convinced she had to get “thinner, and thinner, and thinner.” Then her body started breaking down.
At 17, Mary Cain was already a record-breaking phenom: the fastest girl in a generation, and the youngest American runner to turn professional. In 2013, she was signed by the best track team in the world, Nike’s Oregon Project, run by its star coach Alberto Salazar.
Then everything collapsed. Her fall was just as spectacular as her rise, and she shares that story for the first time in the Video Op-Ed above.
Instead of becoming a symbol of girls’ unlimited potential in sports, Cain became yet another standout young athlete who got beaten down by a win-at-all-costs culture. Girls like Cain become damaged goods and fade away. We rarely hear what happened to them. We move on.
The problem is so widespread it affected the only other female athlete featured in the last Nike video ad Cain appeared in, the figure skater Gracie Gold. When the ad came out in 2014, like Cain, Gold was a prodigy considered talented enough to win a gold medal at the next Olympics. And, like Cain, Gold got caught in a system where she was compelled to become thinner and thinner. She developed disordered eating to the point of imagining her own death.
“America loves a good child prodigy story, and business is ready and waiting to exploit that story, especially when it comes to girls,” said Lauren Fleshman, who ran for Nike until 2012. “When you have these kinds of good girls, girls who are good at following directions to the point of excelling, you’ll find a system that’s happy to take them. And it’s rife with abuse.”
We don’t typically hear from the casualties of these systems - the girls who tried to make their way in this system until their bodies broke down and they left the sport. It’s easy to focus on bright new stars, while forgetting about those who disappeared. We fetishize these athletes, but we don’t protect them. If they fail to pull off what we expect them to, we abandon them.
But Mary Cain’s story isn’t over. By speaking out, she’s making sure of that.
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Not having a nutritionist that specializes in women’s health seems ludicrous for an organization of that size.
It seems like we should have figured out by now the ideal muscle density and volume given height and gender and the optimal nutrition and exercise regimen to arrive there. And one that maintains proper hormonal balance.
You don't need to be a nutritionist or a rocket scientist to know at 114lb she ain't losing 50lb. Look she just made a stupid mistake which cost her thousands and thousands of dollars and most importantly her health. Everything she did, she did to herself. Plus, there is no guarantee that she would have been any better than she was in high school. Her body peaked in high school and she had mistakenly thought she would continue to get faster year after year. Everyone has a year they peak and she peaked in high school. Her health problems were a direct result of her trying to maintain the crazy ideals she had set up for herself.
Brenton Edwards I’m glad you’re not serious
they don't want performance. they just want young "influencers" to sign up to their programs so that they can use you to say " look, this girl/guy that you admire is with us, so our gear must be the best".
@@jessieh.8443 Well according to your logic, Why would we have fashion different fashion for men and women? Men and women are all the same. Men can wear everything women wear right?
makes their slogan "just do it" sound more vicious
This comment needs more credit
So true omg
True omg
Ikr I didn’t realize what they rlly were trying to say when they came out with their slogan
Oh god...
I remember running cross country in high school and our couch telling us we needed to be sure to eat enough, and if we were missing our periods we should see our doctors to make sure everything was okay. The fact that my high school coach knew better than a Nike couch is insane
❤
*coach
@@vermont741 that coach was about as useful as a couch 😒 imagine essentially encouraging your athlete to malnourish themselves
Nepotism.
Top level coaches are not always the best. Remind you that Michael Jordan's strength conditioning coach was actually a fresh graduate newbie and nobody on the Bulls Team would give this guy a chance besides a rookie michael lol.
Your coach cared about the student/athletes' health and wellbeing , these Nike idiots just care about results and winning regardless of the negative effects on the athlete. It happens a lot in pro sports.
Father of two daughters here - thanks you from the bottom of my heart for standing up for yourself and speaking up about this. You're making the world a better place for everybody with this work.
Same here, I echo this ❤
She also lied about Nike not having nutritionists and sport shrinks. Research it
@@westyboi1845just because they have them doesn’t mean she had access to them. Not every Nike team is built the same.
She's destroying them with this video. I'm glad this is on the internet
How would you say nike is being destroyed ?
@@1023Endurance Well it's pretty unanimous that this video is extremely bad publicity for Nike after the faux-pas they made. It being publicized like this is making them more vulnerable to the eyes of future athletes and the public.
I hope this is to Nike what blackfish was to sea world.
Nicolas Brunet big difference in tarnishing an image for a bit vs “destroy” is all I’m saying.
Yeah sure, I guess tarnishing is more appropriate
Sounds more like a cult and less like a team.
7sevo7 ....I dunno, Jim Jones had a great track team. Just saying.🤷🏿♀️
You mean selling out isnt as great as it sounds? Her parents are demons for not protecting her early
Geoffrey Kidder ... I’m hoping you’re 12. You definitely have no children, because a parent would never call another parent a demon for making choices for their children. You’re a little off, get back on your medication.
Oregon loves their cults
props to her for coming out💪
That’s why Simone Biles left Nike because she wasn’t treated right.
same with Allyson Felix
yeah, after she made her hundreds of thousands....
@@wrathofgrothendieck You can’t compare the two athletes. Simone won gold medals before her deal the other one didn’t.
@@foreverbrit97 Yes, exactly!
Allyson Felix and Simone Biles joined athleta for that reason.
Being an Endocrinologist I completely endorse her message . For female athletes weight loss may be important but extreme weight loss is physically and mentally unhealthy and sometimes has irreversible consequences.
Don’t drop your BMI to less than 20 . Upto 25 is good enough and you can still win races if that weight is lean mass.
I'm naturally 15, how would I gain? I used to be 8 as a child..
@@forgor4410 how old are you now?
I'm naturally 14.7ish what do I do?
I lost my period for two years at a BMI of 23. BMI is not the only metric to judge hormonal health. Now competing in a different sport at BMI of 27 and feel fantastic. We need to ditch BMI when it comes to sport, and we need to acknowledge that women can and should build lean mass.
What is you are east asian? My BMI is about 21 now and cannot healthily go below 20. BMI 20 is the lowest sustainable BMI I can have while have a normal diet.
Nike literally sucked the talent out of her
She never lost her talent. It was a matter of Nike absolutely crushing what was left of her potential
SOSA THE BOSS ...we are all always looking for talent here at Rockport Velcro’s sports division.
@@theresnoway440 A rotten family can do the same thing.
exactly, look up Alysia Montaño. She has a similar Nike story, but she was PREGNANT
ChangedName _ ...does pregnancy make you a better or worse runner? You know Nike pays these people lots and lots of money to run, right? They are a product that Nike is selling just like football players. And like football players when you’re done competing, Nike no longer pays you, you understand that, right?
The dislikes are from Alberto’s friends
He has a lot of friends
Brainjock you are really- slow learning. It’s obvious that you don’t exactly understand the video.
Brainjock man you are basically the opposite of a feminist. She was verbally abused and harassed. It’s obvious you need to understand the ENTIRE video. I wouldn’t be surprised if you hadn’t watched it at all.
Brainjock well those African Americans may not have been putting through that. And she had nowhere to go. It wasn’t just yelling. She was basically forced and abused so badly by them and she had nobody to talk to. Everywhere was dead ends and the world seems hopeless. She isn’t any kind of fragile. She went through suicidal thoughts and here you are calling her a “brittle spirit”...
Brainjock Did you lose all your brain cells? Can I tell you to lose a bunch of weight, run well, and yell at you when you don’t do what I want? No one even mentioned race, so why would you bring that up? Think about it before you say it. Stop assuming things.
This has been happening to women in women sports forever. I’ve several women friends from gymnastics, swimming and running backgrounds and most were subjected to the “ideal weight” scrutiny. Even as a man, when I competitively ran, 110 miles per week, coaches would say that I needed to be thinner. I was 126 lbs.@ 5’8”. It wasn’t till injury and gaining weight, 145-150 lbs., that I ran my best times. Even at the marathon distance. Mary Cain is a champion in so many ways, and I hope she continues to run for herself
Who tf thinks 5'8" 126 is too fat?? That's so messed up
Yeah no man should be 126 at 5'8
I had a classmate in college on the XC team who was notorious for complaining about the girls' weights and eating habits. I.e. if he found out if someone ate the wrong thing, they'd have to do something extra at practice. This coach was also really dismissive of their athletes doing other school activities and would talk badly about them behind their backs. Not a good situation.
What coach exactly said that? And what program?
@@Erin-rg3dwwell yeah, you cant be having cheat meals when you are a top athlete
Nike has always had a bad history of treating women poorly. I'm glad her parents supported her and made her fly home. It saved her life.
I hate the fact that whenever a brand gets big, it gets corrupted with greed and brutality.
That's how it goes
Brands, billionaires/celebrities, politicians, you name it
Everything is like that, if we want to make a change then we need to speak out against it and tell the government, presidency, etc.
Billy Casper yeah but what are you gonna do about it. That’s exacts,y why they do it
nora not gonna work their seperate entities
she’s 5’8” and he wanted her to weigh 114lbs!!! that’s INSANE for her body type!
I had a coach that wanted me at 115 and I'm 5'8 as well and naturally with endomorph body types the weight is like 125 to 135 lbs I've tried to lose weight I've tried everything and it nothing worked you can’t really lose weight if your training and feeding yourself right I feel bad because I eventually had a coach tell me that it was natural to weight it took a while but coaches really can mess with a young athletes head and my past coaches didn't verbally tell me that I weighted too much but they favored the slimmer girl and always made it apparent that, that was they wanted
I weigh 114 exactly, but I’m 15 so yeah that’s unrealistic and unhealthy
@BenBrinley, i’m sorry what i said was totally inconsiderate, it can be natural to be that weight if that’s how you are built (i weigh less than 90lbs and i’m 5’2” so i’m personally pretty scrawny naturally) it can be healthy and natural, just for her it obviously wasn’t healthy or realistic and that’s true for most people, i’m sorry if what i said was offensive💛
@Ariana Butler, i’m so sorry you had to go through that, i went through a similar situation but with height, it sucks, i’m sorry that happened, i hope you’re doing well🧡🧡
Landry D
Nahhh don’t worry about it, I didn’t find this offensive at all but yeah I was saying it was unhealthy for *her* like you just said. But definitely depends on how you are built
Ran with Mary Cain at a running camp years ago before she even signed with Nike. One of the sweetest and humblest human iv ever met.
As a female sprinter/hurdler that has dealt with disordered eating/an eating disorder and no period for months at a time, I understand the effects.. It's not fun. I have delt with shin splints for over a year because of this. It infuriates me that people think that being smaller will automatically make you faster because that's not entirely true. Now yes, being smaller will make you lighter but it doesn't always make you faster. Take me for example, I am bigger than I have ever been but last season I was running my fastest times.
HEALTHY bodies will perform at their peak. Not starved, hungry bodies.
Weight matters. But only to a point. Being underweight to a point that's unhealthy won't get anyone anywhere, and it certainly won't help them be s better athlete.
And mental health problems won't help anyone be a better athlete. The best athletes are the ones that are healthy in body and mind. And that kind of health has nothing to do with weight.
They only seem to push that narrative on women and girls. Boys and men are not pressured to be small and starve themselves.
@@bottomofastairwell exactly like why do they need to be such a low bodyweight they make these athletes get under 100 pounds i don't get it how is being 95 pounds and almost passing out all the time gonna make you faster
She wanted to be the GOAT of the sport and chose Salazar because he produced many Olympians. Finding a coach is like a marriage. It doesn't always work out. She could easily moved over to train with Shalane Flanagan's group at Nike if she felt abused by Alberto. Alberto's athletes were lean. Galen, Centrovitz Goucher,, Mo Farah, Sifan Hassan, Mark Decker, Jordan Hasay. It seems like prime reason both Mary Cain and Kara Goucher decided to speak out against Alberto was to distance themselves from the disgraced Coach. They needed a way out so that they would never be accused of taking PEDs.
But did you blame your coach and sue him for $20 million dollars or did you take personal responsibility.
Thought this was an undercover Nike ad but boy was I wrong
Donovan Daniels me too, I thought she went from best female to best person.
Yeah like "I was the fastest girl in america, until I joined nike. Now I'm the fastest in the world"
LOL
No kidding. She’s dragging Nike through dirt and glass. You love to see it
Coach: lose weight
Girl: I can't, I'm dying
Coach: Just Do It™
Max Hoflock omg haha what lol
Max Hoflock 😔🤣😔 not funny bro
Famous The Prince stop being sensitive bro this is funny.
@Dawson Walker INTJ yeah you're right, its hilarious
Dawson Walker INTJ ok? Yet many people find WW2 and WW1 jokes funny and yet they were a lot worse and no one cares except very very sensitive people. So chill. Plus if you’re asking me, she shoulda gotten help earlier than she did.
What happened to Mary is borderline criminal. Thank goodness there are coaches out there (like Laurie Henes at NC State) who reject the methods of so-called "coaches" like Salazar. Thanks to Mary for sharing this. Hopefully, it will prevent it from happening to someone else.
unfair advantage
It is one sided accusations. How many Olympic Medals and World Championships did Laurie Henes produce? Comparing NCAA coach to Alberto is Apples and Oranges cause Mary was a professional athlete. She can choose her own coach unless there is something in the Nike Contract that mandated her to remain with Alberto.
I'm not comparing them. I'm just saying one of them is very supportive and nurturing and the other one body-shamed (at least) one of his athletes into an eating disorder. That sort of thing needs to go the way of the dinosaurs. I don't care how many Olympic medals he has produced - you do that to one of your athletes, you shouldn't be in the business.
@@haroldsmith7044 I don't think you know the full history of Alberto and his athletes. Mary was successful with her smear campaign against Alberto AFTER he ended up being banned for PEDs. Her MeToo was her way to disassociate and free herself from Alberto. And she admits that she spoke with Kara Goucher before coming forward. Jordan Hasay, Siffan Hassan, Shannon Rowbury, Mary Slaney who ran under Alberto didn't collaborate her story or come to her defense. Why is that?
Okay, if you are comfortable defending a coach like him, a total stranger like me will not be able to convince you otherwise.@@igloozoo3771
This young woman is strong in her resilience and brave enough to denounce Nike: she's a hero. Don't look for another word.
Mary is a forever victim. She was young enough to find another coach and make a comeback but she never tried. Look up Allie Ostrander another prodigy who succomb to eating disorders. Allie is transparent with her struggles and have continued to train and attempt comebacks. Allie is someone I look up to not Mary.
Athlete: I'm having suicidal thoughts..
Nike: Just do it
Oh dear...
I know its bad but that managed to get a chuckle out of me... oh god we are horrible people
@Murat Kahraman yes, yes we are; but a little dark humour never hurt no one. Plus theres nothing wrong, with laughing in the face of death once in awhile. 😵🤫
Epic line haha
That's cruel, i love it 🤣
she went to my school and is basically a legend , her newspaper clippings still hang on the bulletin board. to hear that something like this happened to her is extremely sad.
@ADEBISI ADEBISI WTF is that supposed to mean?
ibur the dude deleted the comment, but what did he say?
Its.god.himself I would also like to know
Fireball XL5 wait what did he say
What up Bronxville kid
Very brave of you to share this. Ending this chapter and starting anew with the right support and knowing your worth is so important. I’m sorry anyone ever made you feel like you weren’t anything more than a number on a scale.
Hi Mary! So glad you found the strength and courage to speak out. This is such an important message for us to hear. I 100% support you. We need to make things safe for women and girls.
Nike: “You need to get even skinnier!”
Girl: “I don’t think that’s such a good...”
Nike: “Just do it!”
Tiger H. Lore im the 666 like btw
You sucsessfully made this horrible event funny
Tiger H. Lore Despite this being a serious issue... You made me laugh 😂
why thats not funny thats sick
@@velvetvelvet You're sick in the head you can't take a joke
Nike has billions of dollars but doesn't have nutritionists or personal trainers wow
Nike is a marketing company, it doesnt even own its shoe making manufacturing plant in Asia.
When your spokesman is a QB that choked in every playoff appearance and dropped for a third string start up that's what you get.
M Huh and kneels for our flag
@@mhuh Do you mean the same quarterback that took his team to Super Bowl 47 where he threw for over three hundred yards, something thirty other teams failed to do?
Shane Ball first amendment 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you Mary for being so brave to speak up! I'm so sorry this happened to you and thank God you told your parents and they got you on the first flight out of there. Your story will help other athletes. Keep pushing! ❤
Nike is just what every corporate business in the world is, money over people.
Oscar Castellanos yeah but so what’s a little harm in getting thinner
123 that she could get too thin? are u dumb
Oscar Castellanos I thought they were better than this :/
Lela Mae ok now that I look at her she’s pretty skinny but chill
@@user-cx9bt5jf2i Running for miles on a weight scale that isn't healthy for your age and height can seriously damage your body permanently, especially if you have to keep pushing your limits
Imagine the stupid look on the person’s face that tells the “fastest girl in America” to lose weight.
kford07 Imagine the stupid look on the person’s face when I tell them she had to lose weight to compete against world class competition.
Is there any other look?
The methodology is losing weight will make you faster. It’s probably a bigger blow that you managed to F up a person’s career, also it’s program. Maybe less of the feminist side of things (although female athletes probably understand the female body better) but the fact it’s this guy and a bunch of his friends proves that he doesn’t particularly have a good coaching system
Method is used all the time. You serious or fat?
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Just because a method is used doesn’t make it good. Cramming, for example m
Thank you for being so brave! Keep speaking out. Your story will help save many other people.
I’m sorry you had to go through this. Hopefully you will come back even stronger. Shame on those around you that didn’t stand up for you, and thank you to any individuals along your journey that did help you in anyway.
We must all remember that all it takes for evil people to triumph over others. Is for good people to standby and do nothing. For good people to turn a blind eye to what’s happening and do nothing to help or stop it. Be brave good people and help each other. Do what your heart tells you is the right thing and take action.
The world will be a better place because of you.
This video is so important. Thank you for making it.
I thought this was gonna be about nike shoes making her run slower
Sameeee
You're not alone.
Lmfao same I feel so stupid
AHAHA SAME
Same!
The fact that NIKE could have a team of non-professionals managing a whole programme is baffling.
No bad thing Nike does surprise me one bit... They build a Brand by doing things this way
Actually it's not at all surprising if you live in Oregon.
Lynda it’s working tho
Lynda cause there the best
Lynda shut up
The guy is named Salazar, why am I not surprised he's evil?
😂
He indeed has a name of an old evil wizard
Malfoy's descendant
Like the portugal dictator in the '60
Like Salazar from Resident Evil 4. Good times.
I am so sorry this happened to you, Mary. You and many others deserve so much better.
Having all-male staff in a female-only track is already a red flag...
the problem is that they treated her like a man, they wanted her to have a "men diet" and with the same amount of fat that men need, woman need more fat in their bodies to be healthy
From my experience, I think the problem is more that she might have had no contact to other female athletes! Male coaches in team sports never seemed to have been/had a problem, naturally, come up with ideas akin, "Let's forget about your period", he'd get mobbed out before he'd knew what happened.
@@silkegehtyoutubegarnichtsa892
Females at 10% bodyfat look skeletal
Males look like top, healthy athletes
its business as usual, hardly a red flag except to foaming at the mouth men haters
Silke Gehtyoutubegarnichtsan we have the same name 😄
She missed her period for 3 YEARS and still kept running that’s crazy like if I miss my period for 3 days I get worried 😧 like what the heck
Aissatou Ba omg really? 3 years?
Aissatou Ba exactly. She knew it was wrong and unhealthy.
kbkesq when you’re young and all these adults in your enviroment are telling you to do things bc it will make you better, its hard to just say no and to stop
Right! I'm more confused about the things she said than I am with the company. What the company did isn't shocking its just sick
@Morning Sun Sparkles Dew on fresh grass You don't know what you're talking about. Men's bodies will fail them too if they mistreat them. Male athletes get injured all the time from over-exhaustion, muscle/tendon tears, etc. The problem wasn't that she was running too much. It was that she wasn't eating enough. Those coaches weren't qualified and gave her bad advice. Women who have never played a sport in their lives start to miss periods when they don't eat enough. Do some research on women who struggle with anorexia.
I wondered what happened with this girl. I’m proud of her for speaking up. Hope she can get back to a happy life. Look forward to seeing her back and maybe be a couch for women’s track.
I'm sorry for you have been through. I'm impressed by your courage and strength. Thank you for speaking up.
Crazy how the fastest girl in America was ruined by just poor coaching
Not bad coaching. Negligence
It said opinion
@@Susanirusta that's like saying, "not bad parenting, just negligence". Like what are you even arguing?
Susan Iru negligence IS bad coachin
It was her parents that didnt teach her to stand up for herself
This is straight up abuse, and should be illegal.
Abuse is
It is illegal no-one said it wasn’t
It was all concentual. So no it’s not illegal.
Daltira learn how to spell consensual and then we can talk about consent. The only reason she consented was because she thought it would make her better because everyone was telling her to just listen to Alberto and so the thought of that was drilled into her head.
Nah that's capitalism, companies like nike have been getting away it since forever.
Surprised to see this video (again) in my recommended videos. Still gives me chills about how Nike goes about their business. I things have changed for the better for all people affected. Thank you for this as well... as I got to experience running in different brands more now like NB, Asics, Saucony and Brooks.
Thank you for sharing. I competed as a high jumper and in college my track coach told me my body fat was too high at 15%.
Alberto Salazar sounds like the perfect name for a villain.
Pirate of the Caribbean movie has a villain called Salazar if im not mistaken.
@@amit_26 also in harry potter salazar slytherin
@@pizzaleftovers2562 Salazar slytherin wasnt really a villain if I recall correctly.
@@jamesBFC1887 yeah but he wasn't a great guy either. He wanted to recruit only purebloods into Hogwarts
like El Chapo's handyman
the people who saw her self-harming and did nothing were complicit. disgusting system.
No, they were indifferent
@@Monkey_30000 exactly. But no surprise ppl think this way, we do live in the me-too era after all
it hurts my heart that someone could not care like that. i can only feel sorry for people who self harm, and i wish i could take the overflowing emotion that drives them do that away.
everybody self harms its nothing to be worried about because its just normal for teenage girls bc theyre so emotional
Toaster Baff
self harm is NOT normal, and shouldn’t be taken lightly.
I'm so proud of you and I am glad you are much better now and standing to make a change. God bless you
Sad but empowering story. You have enormous passion and impact as an individual runner and an activist for positive change. 💯👏👏
i’m surprised Nike hasn’t said anything regarding this tf
changkyun's eyebrow piercing I want to hear Alberto and the other coaches side.
Lorena Garcia seriously. This chick sounds like she couldn’t/wasn’t meant to do the program. Like why are all the other athletes that were involved not complaining?
@@AmericanTragedy31 Other athletes from the Oregon Project are in fact speaking out as well. Alberto is banned from coaching anyway because he violated doping policies
Asher Jenk they are. Lmao
You see this one video on your feed and know nothing else about it... then you say “well no one else said that”... how do you know? You don’t.
This is a normal reporting from many women at Nike.
Like the women in the military.
We keep reporting it.
The problem is that no one cares.
The best way to handle criticism. Is to ignore it.
Mad respect for this girl she didn't killed herself and fought the system.
@Crom i think that after this shock she is just trying to build herself a life before going back to a pro level and that might take a couple years.
I agree with Rachel from Slowdive. Mad respest to Ms Cain for speaking out.
Not everybody kills themselves when there weak
Nobody forced her to listen to their advice. She listened to the wrong people and made her own bad decisions. Do I feel sympathy for her? Yep... but she needs to stop blaming others and question her own judgement.
Henry TheGreatAmerican wtf? she was a teenage girl - she literally had none of the power, surrounded by men who were supposed to help her, but mentally and physically abused her. how was she supposed to know that they didn’t have her best interests in mind when she started out? and while she eventually got out, these men had power, money, and influence, and she was far from home and alone. i’m sure it wasn’t easy to deal with, and not something she should have had to deal with anyway. it was the ADULTS who were at fault here, so get out of here with your victim-blaming.
Very good video. Thank you Mary Cain for your perspective. My heart and hope for your strength and continual health is with you. God Bless you and stay a fighter!
I'm really glad her parents immediately recognized how wrong all that was and got her out of there 👏 👏
The fact that she’s lost her career path :/ when she thought she was making the right choice :-(
That's why you gotta be smart and makes your own decisions. Don't trust anyone. You know yourself best and have your own best interest in mind. Sure, listen to a coach after you check what they say, but she should have known they were idiots from the start. She should have done her research and known the information they were giving her was the wrong information.
Edit: I made this comment not seeing the full video so I didnt take Into account she was 16. I understand now that she was very young. I would probably make the same mistake when I was her age if I was in her shoes. Still, moral of the story is don't trust everyone because only you have your absolute best interest in mind. Don't let people make decisions for you.
@@clydefloyd8751 you're missing a lot of points here. Firstly, she was, what, 16? Salazar was one of, if not the, top running coach. Would anyone believe a 16 year old girl is doing the "right thing" by refusing to be coached by a Nike-endorsed program headed by him? Secondly, the information wasn't out there. If her assertions are correct, all the assistant coaches were friends with Salazar and no one would have ever crossed him or given critical reviews for people to see.
I understand she joined as thought be good but must say I sign if I can stay how I am (not lose weight and show you need some weight to build muscle to go faster)
@@ZCherish good points. Moral of this story for all of us to learn is, be cautious with what information your given. Double and triple check and do your own research. Trust yourself. You can trust people, just be cautious.
every university graduate who doesn't get hired in their field due to the economic system
a normal athlete: *is supposed to put on some muscle and strengthen their body*
alberto: nah that's crap, you just gotta lose weight
Muscle is heavier than fat. Extra weight is a good thing sometimes :3
Well it depends on the type of muscle really but fat still really has no place in running. Obviously there are healthy zones of fat but that depends on the sport. Running tends to have one of the lower fat percentages of almost any sport.
すずきまい this situation is awful
Also 1000TH LIKE YEY :D
Well, physics and biology can't coexist
Ok kacchan
A Bronxville girl. Few worked as hard. Watched her run up and down Palmer Rd.. Palmer Rd. Is no joke. Hats off to you Ms. Cain
This is devastating. Taking a young person’s talents and passions and completely destroying them. Just shameful.
She didn't need to drop weight if she was already the fastest. I hope she sues that coach for putting her through all of that.
ShaqWith TheCombo I don’t think you know what being a major athlete is. If you are destroying the competition but you are overweight, you have to lose that weight. It doesn’t even matter.
@@laurelkuyon2556 it doesn't make sense to push the body into breaking bones. For xx chromosomes, that means staying above a certain weight, under a certain amount of stress, and over a certain amount of calories. It's normally called the female athlete triad, and the ruined fertility and osteoporosis at
@@laurelkuyon2556 surely it depends on what your definition of overweight is? I'd guess Serena Williams is overweight; muscle weighs more than fat. If she put on so much weight that it hindered her racing then yes, she needed to lose weight, but not if she was winning - it doesn't make sense. Shaq put on a lot of weight over his career and it certainly slowed him down. Her weight was obvioisly not slowing her down.
Antonia Jane you know what I mean
@@antoniajane5442 my dude just said that muscle weighs more than fat. By that logic 1 pound of muscle weighs more than 1 pound of fat.
“I’m not buying Nike anymore”
- Literally everyone who will forget about this after a week.
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Nike is a jacked up company. Not just for this. This video didn't change my mind. I wasn't buying Nike and I'm still not going to do it.
Buy Puma or Adidas.
i love nike i don't care about your politics that change from day to day. Just wear it.
Thank you so much for speaking out.
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This is disgusting and I’m so happy that she spoke out about her situation. They should go to jail for that because Alberto did destroy young women’s body and that’s *SICK*
He trained them like he trained Men. Alberto is GENDER INCLUSIVE.
Rob M ... what???? Starving yourself is not something men do for track
On a logical level, this doesn't make sense at all. "wow you're the fastest female runner! Let's change everything about you to make you faster". Faster than who? Herself?! Where's the logic in that?!?! 🙆🏽
@@yashpermalla3494 did you miss the part where she talked about the men doing it too?
@@robm5031 are you trying to start a gender war in these replies
Nike should be facing child abuse charges. But no, they go on as if nothing happened. Well I hope this video gets their attention.
Just because she perceives it as abuse doesn't mean it is. I believe she made her decision and signed a contract with them. Nike's athletes are highly successful. Due to doping, I agree, Salazar and his companions should be banned indefinitely, but their programs are still great and worth considering. But she sounds like she's trying to offload the blame for not being at the top of the team.
You mean, the same company that exploits child labor in 3rd world countries?... Who would've thunk?!
(Meanwhile, their spokesman is a black millionaire pretending to be oppressed, somehow.)
@@TriggerzMcKnickersShow ignore the nike bots lol.
@@bankofwerner4206 i am not sure that you know what you talking about. She talk about her experience, she was a talented teenager athlète. What she is talking about, the coaching, the constant aiming of loosing height against her own healf, the no-psy and no nutritionniste and not have period during 3 years are clearly abuse. Unless you assume that she is a liar, of that, i clearly doubt. On the other hand, there are maybe some program and coatch supported by nyke that are good. But You cant break your body for a good result and success
@@bankofwerner4206 "She percieves it as"? No that's not perception, nike, factually, didn't hire a certified physio.That's not perception, that's fact.
Why do we live in a world where we care more about ego and profits. Than just being kind and decent!? This young woman is so brave to speak up and I hope she continues on her running career 💪
This is how I feel too…so your comment caught my attention. I’m starting to think it’s because so many men still think they literally know everything and shouldn’t have to hear any input. When was the last time we heard of an all female group of anything, all female church clergy, all female school staff, all female coaching group, where abuse and was rampant?
Wow, never mind. Delete! I asked the question and pressed enter and then my brain recalled a daycare center that I believe was all female staff and female oversight and an abusive teacher was getting away with abusing little kids for ages. So I don’t know what the answer is. But no nutritionists on a Nike team was a huge 🚩 Red Flag.
It’s amazing how in an era where sports is analysed in detail, where you have medical, psychological and nutrition experts involved at every step of the way, something like this can even happen.
Quite clearly the system implemented by Nike harmed this girl greatly, whatever the benefits of the system may otherwise be.
At the very end, it sounded as if the system may fit male athletes which would be an interesting fact. It’s important to analyse how male and female biology and psychology differ and how to best take both into account when developing a training regime.
Exactly. It's absolutely disgusting and misogynistic these psychopathic corporations like Nike no limits markets women as "appearance only" "commodities," instead of as athletes, performers, musicians, etc.
He got a ban for four years. FOUR YEARS. That's all..
It was his understanding and way of training and it seems it was working for most athletes. He just coached her as he was coaching other athletes, i donot
think he should have been banned for more.
And most of track athletes are pretty ripped. And I have not seen any fat woman or man breaking records in track competitions....
@@zeeshanraza5611 Yes, but I've never seen a malnourished anorexic man or woman break any records either
What do you want a death sentence 💀
I will literally clap you on Siege
@Jack Soan 🙋🏻♂️ i play it too
Women are not small men. We have totally different nutritional needs.
Like what?
Z- Dawg did you watch the video?
@@czarii2422 yup yup
Z- Dawg
Stacy Sims covers this and has done research that covers this subject.
Tell this to third wave toxic feminist.
Brave, courageous, a tribute to female athletes everywhere describes Mary Cain.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I believe your speaking out will help create a new culture. This is happening across every aspect of society. Keep going!
She should just go ahead and start her own company at this point
On god huh
It doesnt just work like that
Called feminism r us
Did she sue them? No medical professionals? They ruined her chances.
Fr
Fr shed get a lot of money too
could she able to afford the law suit against Nike? I don't think so
Chathurka Madhushan I mean she’s more likely to win man
@@tanaxradio8138 How so? You think you can win against Nike? Why don't you contact her and sue Nike so I can see in my comfy couch how it goes!
thinking of what Mary cain could've been makes me wanna cry..
Heart-breaking. To give your whole life to one thing from childhood onwards and then something like this happens. Because sports became professional in the wrong way in the 20th century and greed apparently knows no bounds. I am glad she assumes this responsibility, of making things public and campaigning and I hope she will continue to make peace and process this horrible experience. So many miles more to run 💗
When humans are treated like corporate farm animals.
💰
yes
now you know how the animals. feel. and they can't even talk
abolish capitalism
@J. Milton Jeffreys Being good at something doesn't give you the right to ruin someone's life. Literally every life is equal but the moment you give someone power and they show they are incapable of making righteous decisions they need to be stripped of it. No one was poorly represented here. She blamed Nike, she didn't even blame the coach she said the system was broken, because it was. She's asking for awareness and for people like us to fix it and that's what we're about to do.
"Nike declined to comment."
Nike's silence is deafening.
That's how liberal sjws companies operate
@@derekbuck2369 there's no such thing
Montse Servín Apple comes to mind.
@Toob247 Toob247 companies just want money. Nothing else
@@laughingman4236 do you really think they care about social issues?
It's not about having men or women in positions of power. It's about having people of good moral and ethical character, whatever their gender.
@@Allison_Hart Certainly! I can agree with everything you said and I wish more people would come to the conversation with good intentions. That would solve 99 percent of these issues.
How horrific, but I believe every word. Thank you for your contributions to the sport. I quit buying Nike YEARS ago.
Should of sued Nike
Should have*
Also, agreed.
@@whodis2614 should uv'd*. I too agree!
Well why not
Absolutely. Group of athletes Nike destroyed with abusive, incompetent coaching/training should band together, file class action.
I guarantee they had her sign her right to sue away, as well as all Nike sponsored athletes. Keeps other abused atheletes from corroborating the abuse as well. Ugh
It's crazy how a company as globally large as Nike didn't have individual nutritionists for their athletes.
I mean it makes sense to me. They're a company that's really only concerned with their brand and sales, they're not inherently an organization that's about athletes. Ya, they make clothes or shoes that athletes wear, but the bottom line comes down to the dollar and advertising their own brand. Nike has a lot of other unethical practices.
@@breannapimentel3216 yea they don’t care about this 🏃♀️ they care about this 💵
"their althletes"
Oh , no .....
Clinical Dietitian would be best.
Yeah this is so crazy. Also, not a women doctor or women coach?
I can relate to that with my college experience. It’s always to make coach happy. To win. Not your health. Even trainers are on coaches’ side. It’s sad. You’re used until you get hurt.
This is so motivational to always keep the sanity no matter what.
let’s be real. we didn’t search for this, it ran to us
Yes.
This was actually a pretty good comment
This was actually a pretty good comment
This comment is literally in every comments section.
Genius, so original.
I like how it wasnt just an expose story to diss Nike and ruin their image, she actually gave a solution to improve Nike and pointed out what was wrong with the system
How does a single person 'ruin the image' of the biggest global sports brand in the world anyway??
Idk if their intent was to diss nike or ruin their image I think it was more to make the public aware of what Nike had done and then let them come to their own conclusion
It common sense blue, see her body how it seems in the photos, this is truth. Only a blind cant see unless you are a N*ike boot!
Anyone above 30 knows nike is a horrible slave wage torturous company. People should have been woke to Nike DECADES ago. Just watch the slave labor documentary.
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Wow well done for telling your powerful story. I’m an ex dancer and have a similar experience. I’m so happy you had the support of great parents who saw you unhappy and just pulled you out straight away. I’d be horrified if my daughter went through what you did
Thanks for sharing your story
I don't get it. She was the fastest girl in America. Why was she tortured to be thinner to be faster? It doesn't even make sense. You can't upgrade perfection.
@@imanatrocity2504 tbf alot of Americans seem to think that way
You can upgrade perfection, but I agree with the rest
@@imanatrocity2504 ooooohhh get it. she was being "trained" (tortured)to compete internationally. her "training" process still sucks tho.
@@BirdTurdMemes wha- how??
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If we never upgraded perfection we’d still be living in caves
“Oh hunting with this stabbing spear is awfully dangerous, what happens when I use elastic force to shoot smaller spears thus being able to hunt twice the amount of meat on a single hunting trip”
and there’s countless examples, tens of thousands, without human ambition and curiosity we’d be nothing, we’d never progress, and if you start at zero and don’t progress that pretty bad
I just wish someone could give her a good, warm, hug. She looks like she needs one.
😈
It isn’t gonna change anything
She needs justice so if you want to give her anything, it's pressure against nike
Another pathetic "hug" comment...🤦♀️
She speaks out against one of the *biggest companies in the world!* She doesn't need your pity.
M mmm someones parents dont love them, jesus
Proud of you for speaking up! So sorry this happened to you.
As a cross country runner myself, I’m so glad to have a female head coach. She’s always been super vocal about this issue and even my male assistant coaches emphasize over and over how much we need to eat. It’s helped me at some of my worst times when I was plateauing and thought that eating less would be better. It’s not, and it can really hurt you.
Hope underarmour hires her to be the coach she needed for girls like her
Not saying she cant coach, but just because shes an amazing athlete doesnt mean she would be a good coach. They are separate skill sets.
Joshua Haught I do agree.
@@joshuahaught4812 yes but it would be both good publicity for UA and she doesn't have to be head coach, just having her on coaching staff would probably be immensely beneficial
@@David-if2hj touche brotha, touche
@Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this where did you get this outrageous claim
She should become that coach she was talking about, she’d be great at it
Coaching and athleticism are two very different skillsets. I do believe she,d do a much better job than that charlatan for sure, though.
Thinking like that proves u are dumb af
Why is she reading from teleprompter?
Be the change. Indeed
Why would she be great at it? Do you know something about her that wasn't down here? Or are you just one of those idiots that says BS because you don't have intelligence and integrity?
Thank you for your courage !
I always looked up to Mary growing up. I’m glad she is speaking about it and is supported. Not that I know her as a person, but I always had a lot of admiration for her and I still do. God bless her :)
He was trying to destroy Her, She was already skinny.
What is his motive for trying to destroy her? His job is to take her from national to world class. What's his incentive to destroy her? You're a moron.
@@christschool I feel like the moron is the person who can't understand what he means by "destroying her", and that is you if you don't understand what I mean either.
yeah wtf was wrong with him?
If she was already the fastest girl in America, absolutely nothing needed to be changed about her body.
while she was letting herself be destroyed.. just as much.
Nike needs to be held accountable for this. This is just evil.
Why Has Google Messed With My Channel... Again have you seen the other side of the story? Biased liberal don’t forget your watching this on ny times
@@thetrickster9943 Lmao, okay.
Did you not listen? they already held themselves responsible, their ceo left, the oregon project was shut down and the coach was fired
Arthur Morgan bro something is wrong with you, instantly attacking libs like wtf
They should be responsible for this, but the sweatshops are ok?
Thank you for this video!
Girl: please i cannot continue I'm tired
Nike coach: JUST DO IT
That’s terrible, they ruined her dream that she could have had achieved
yes true, but generally blaming it on men is a little delusional
kennytheasshole huh? Nobody ever blamed it on men. They blamed the nike staff team.
@@kennytheasshole266 she didn't blame it on men tho? she blamed it on the system
Theresa Jobe she explicitly said it happened because there were too many men in the staff team. in my opinion it happened because there were too many people that werent qualified for the job idk
@@kennytheasshole266 she mentioned the fact that it was all.men, she didnt blame it on men
They literally broke her down and ruined her career . Its so sad to see how in that span of time what it did to her physically and mentally.
To me this sounds more like a cautionary tale about women in sports and how women arent biologically designed to push themselves so hard without immediate repercussions.
This is also why people dont care about female sports: when we watch athletes we watch superhumans, peak physical condition that only the 0.001% and lower can achieve, be it because of physical or mental restrictions.
Watching the female marathon with times below average of the average man....well thats not superhuman or remarkable. Its mondane and boring.
In my eyes she just broke down. She couldnt do what was being asked of her. But i dont blame her. Its ok. She wasnt strong enough, not because of her body but because of her mind. What she calls "abuse" is training for any other athlete.
People push you to your limits so you can destroy those limits and be faster, stronger.
Its like in the military: there they actually abuse men physically and especially mentally, to break down your barriers and rebuild you once you are broken, with discipline and training.
Lol shut up they didn’t do anything bad
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I’d like to see you go through what she did then, or what any female athletes go through because you shouldn’t be talking if you haven’t gone through that or been one of the fastest in the world.
@bobwatters yeeep. The worst part is that they wanna make us feel bad because she was... "fat shamed"?? Wtf?
Wtf do you think they do when they weight athletes like for boxe matches? They are fat shaming? Lmao.
Its always someone else's fault when women fail. If its a man, EVEN BETTER. If its a system of men, thats the ULTIMATE VICTIM CARD!
Great job bringing this into the light!
Thank you for being brave and sharing your story. Best wishes.
Takes "just do it" to a whole other level.
I know right
if went from “JUST DO IT” to “JUST DO IT!!”
All I heard was young woman the whole time
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