This Watch Will Change How You Think About SEIKO (SLA057)
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Seiko SLA057 is a beautiful pro diver from Seiko with a couple key new features. Replicable crown, a new patented alloy that is more corrasion resistant then Rolex's 904L SS and a hand assembled movement. Put those feature together with Grand Seiko like finishing on the hands and hand polished case and you have a special timepieces. Snobs need not apply.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Macro Videography
0:03 - Intro
0:54 - Caseback
1:00 - Kavar Sale
1:18 - $ PRICE $
2:00 - Investment?
2:26 - Indices Super Macro
2:48 - Lugs
2:58 - Braclet?
3:23 - Wrist Shot
3:32 - Strap
4:08 - Diemensions
4:59 - Crown
5:09 - ISO Water Rating
5:40 - Hands Set Macro
6:00 - Bezel
6:19 - Weight
6:25 - Timegrapher
7:46 - Lume
8:03 - The Need for a New Standard
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Check out the SLA055 Blue Save the Ocean HERE: czcams.com/video/oRAJNJ4UWX0/video.html -Falling Oh yeah I forgot this watch also comes with the new Seichu Straps in BLACK!
Coming back to this video after a month of owning the SLA057 and it's absolutely incredible! Compared to the Tudor BB58 I had, this thing is on another level in terms of finishing. It's a very special watch and one that stays on my wrist 24/7. Most definitely my favorite watch I've ever owned!
How was the power reserve difference of 20 hours affected you? I'm considering get one of the two of them and the 70 hours in the Tudor it's appealing.
@@DonAlex37 Honestly, I've owned the SLA057 for 5 months now and have never let it die. I've not gone longer than a day without wearing it. So, the 50 hour reserve is more than enough. Haha.
Any scratches on the Zaratsu yet?
Donât fool us, look at that signed crown⊠I mean
I ordered SLA057 few weeks ago and it's being shipped. While I wait for my SLA057 I watch your "sold a tudor for a seiko "and E&W reviews for 5 times at a day. thanks
After about 6 months of ownership I have to say that this thing is unbelievably accurate. Once the movement has broken in it and with daily wear it is pretty much spot on.
The rugged steel case is without any scratches or signs of wear. Looks like the day I got it out of the box.
Awesome!
Worth every penny.
FT, you nailed it with this review. Got the 055 and the strap is finally a usable length but the minder is awful. Put the steel, signed minder on from my original MM300 strap - perfect. The indices are stunning, the most enchanting dial of any watch I have. As for price point - this watch is head and shoulders over anything I have similar or double the money in terms of fit and finish. Regulating the movement (or not) is frustrating but I will take the finishing over this any day of the week. I watched your Sub comparison video and although you state it was a bit of fun it raises some very valid points. Take the name off the dial and compare to any Tudor or Omega, honestly this will win hands down. To those who buy the brand I say good on you, we all do, but donât dismiss this watch because itâs a Seiko - itâs stunning.
Definitely not appreciated by pseudo watch enthusiasts. And not many people appreciate details like, hand polished escape teeth, although tedious and painstaking.
Really thinking of adding this to the collection one day, I just keep getting drawn back to look at it. Feels like Seiko hasn't cut any corners with the materials on this one.
Finally a video that does this watch justice. Well done keep up the great work. Iâm seeing improvements in every video and appreciate it đđŒ
Excellent video with great emphasis on the small details. Whoever gets this watch is a lucky guy. Seiko keeps getting better and better. Itâs the little details that make all the difference. Like the drilled lugs. So perfect. Thanks for sharing.
There's also other details that Seiko does not mention, but because I can't get 100% confirmation, I don't really mention them. But if you're curious, Seiko hardens each piece of the movement individually which only Patek does and then on top of that rhodium plates it. Other high-end manufacturers also rhodium plate.
Also, the case back has a second gasket inside which I assume is for a second line of defense for moisture. Again, I don't have a confirmation what that second gasket is for but very cool. Most high in seiko with the 6L and 8L have this double gasket system, one surrounding the movement and one in the case back.
This is a great watch! The finishing on it is better than a Tudor and on par with Omega and even Rolex. I put a jubilee bracelet on mine and it is now one of my favorite watches and I own several of the more expensive brands. I got mine at a nice discount from the retail price and it was well worth it!
Thanks for sharing!
This Seiko looks so good. Your macro shots are phenomenal and really highlight how well finished this piece is.
Glad you like it!
Wow that is a beautiful piece!
Yes I agree with you, great vid here !
Love the chunky chocolate bar strap. Hopefully Uncle Seiko makes a version of this for other Seikos ie 22mm
Beautiful watch! Love Seiko. Prices are getting high but theyâre cool watches. Enjoying your channel as well
Glad you like the videos!
Excelente video đ.
I have been wearing this watch (number 057) day and night for a a month now, deviation plus 4 seconds! fantastic timepiece!
NICE!!! Number 57 on the SLA057 that is awesome!
So much for seikos not being regulated they still keep great time on par with Swiss watches
I have this beauty. Is it expensive⊠ya is it phenomenal, absolutely!
Awesome đđ„đ„
Normally I am a bracelet or bust kind of guy, but I tried the SLA055 on at my AD and the rubber strap was incredibly comfortable. I am still leaning towards the SLA049 (Uemura) over this, but I am real tempted
For a moments I got breathless...what a watch !!! and your content is the best in town! T u Bro !
Thank you bro
I knew you'd come up with the goods. So hard to decide between the two, I think I'd go for the Ice blue version. But against your black jumper it looked stellar.
Thanks bro! The black comes with a black Seichu strap as well. I forgot to mention!
Amazing watch and review... The macro shots are just insane!!! Great job FT!
Glad you enjoyed it! This watch was very hard to film.
@@EscapementWatch hard?! You made it look easy FT! You're too humble brother!
hahah its all the super shiny reflections on that case and bezel insert plus the strange double dome sapphire that reflects light in ways I've never ever seen before. So that's why I was saying I think it has a double dome but with different curves because I can see it bending light differently. But in the end, it is a video I'm happy with!!!! Good practice for when GS comes to the channel in the 2nd half of 2022.
No watch belongs on a rubber strap , bracelet or leather only
, rubber / silicone are n f p.
Very nice.
What's the rubber strap you have it on in some of the rolling shots? It's not the chocolate bar?
đđ»đđ»đđ»đđ» Thanks for the video
No problem đ
Thanks for the great review. I'd love to see a side by side with this and the Seiko Gilt SPB147.
This one sold out long time ago and is impossible to order from Seiko as it is a small batch limited edition. so we can't see it anymore. But the 147 is a darker color, almost bronze. They look very different
@@EscapementWatch Thank you. The 147 may have to fill the niche then.
check out the spb239 as well.
@@EscapementWatch Thank you. Are there slight differences between the 239 and 147?
Yeah the dial is more charcoal black on the 239 vs the bronze brown 147
What a beauty
best seiko in world !
I enjoyed watching the review while wearing #155.
The comments comparing the SLA055 to the BB58 are just ridiculous đ the only thing the BB is better at is looking like a Rolex đđ€Łđ»
The BB58 is much better and cheaper, facts!
Stunning
It really is!
I am very lucky to have this SLA057 in my collection such a stunner!
It really is!!!đđ» Grats
Seiko makes wonderful watches with robust movements BUT they need to start caring about the accuracy of their watches especially at this price point.
Thereâs no justification for a watch with a phenomenal movement like the 8L35 to be running so off .
There should be no reason for a customer to have to go through the hassle to regulate the movement for accuracy.
My SLA055 was running +10 seconds a day consistently until I had it regulated and now it is spot on three months running!!
That tells me the absolute quality of the movement as it is essentially as accurate as a quartz! Whatâs the point for Seiko to create a movement like this but not bother to regulate for accuracy?
yes they are incredible movements. I think they only don't regulate for marketing and to make people want to buy a GRAND SEIKO. It is awful business mindset.
A beautiful time piece indeed. I'm still holding out for gs to release a 40mm 3 hand diver đ€
maybe one day!
I had waited for 40mm GS diver for over 8 years until I saw SLA057 released. I doubt we will see small GS watches. Few years ago they released a slim spring drive movement, but put it in huge 44mm diver's watch SLGA015. All GS diver's are huge and weird, even quartz models.
In my opinion Seiko will continue to release diver's, build in GS studio with GS quality, but under Seiko logo as it has rich history and design catalog. Community begged for smaller GS diver for years, and I think the SLA057 is the Seiko's response. Also Seiko have a lot mid-range 40mm divers. And i doubt that Seiko will release smaller GS soon.
So it's enough waiting for me, I bought SLA057.
42mm is the perfect dive watch size, not 40mm sorry
@@landerzone2643
Better tell rolex that they have been wrong all these years. It totally depends on the size of the wrist.
Great vid, buddy. A very nice watch! Seiko playing with design ideas before a new Everbrilliant (bracelet) Marinemaster 200? No bracelet here is to keep price down. A high spec bracelet would add $500+. Spec is getting good, quality looking very high. Looks well beyond Tudor and similar to Omega/Rolex (but then cost is - in UK, ÂŁ800 less than a braceletted, regulated SMP). I'm not 100% on the design - dimensions, case and face are great, but that bezel... a bit clunky and heavy looking? Anyhow, all irrelevant because of... drum roll: THAT 'X!'
NOOOOO!!! WHY??? Like a Playstation/X Box knockoff or a Chinese SUV! You're totally right, at SLA level the watches need to have a different mark, the X makes them look $500, coincidentally, like their $500 watches... But c'mon Seiko, this is $5000! Time to get serious and that includes branding. Regulating will cost too much and then they're gonna have to charge the same as Omega. People want bracelets and then they'll be more expensive. We know it would be worth it. I'd expect an Everbrilliant Marinemaster 300 on bracelet to be $6k. Ouch. The only precedent were the LXs and the SBEX001/003. Will the market buy? I would, if it didn't have the X, but they'd be treading on GS toes. Dude, which reminds me - you have to get an Evo 9 Diver in for review!!!
Thanks for sharing! will find out if GS is coming to the channel in a month!
Im thinking a bracelet from the SPB185/187 would be a good match and fit?
no they are too dark with diashield coatings. Ever-brilliant steel is pure BRIGHT WHITE!
The minder drove me nuts within a week. The âstickinessâ of the band is an issue with cold weather jackets too. Once it warms up here I will try the other band. Itâs a beautiful watch you canât take anywhere. Kinda like my old girlfriend ;)
Thanks for sharing!
We need a state of the collection video
These are not my watches my man. This one sold so fast after this video went live. Kavar Jewellers.
Seeing where Seiko will take the SLA057 line in the next few years.
Great Video, I picked one up in the UK with a good discount. You are right the keeper is really really uncomfortable (I ordered a rubber keeper on Amazon). I always say my 44.7/8mm Seiko are a bit big for me on my flat 6.75 inch wrist but this one looks weird lol. I think I will get used to it soon. Its running great about half a second slow a day. I also picked up the Alpinist SJE085J1 witch is about a second a day fast so I have been luck with accuracy on those 2. I brought the Alpinist because it was half price and didn't think I would like it (but knowing I can sell it and not loose anything). I love it, I even love the bund strap lol. I also have ordered the New 44GS with the 36.5mm case. I promised myself no more watches this year hahaha oh well.Thanks for all of the content :)
Congrats on the watches! I am too looking at the new 44GS for a future purchase once they come out with more dial colors!
@@EscapementWatch my guess is a baby blue one next
That would be so tempting.
I'm interested in buying this watch.
This one sold very quickly after this video aired. I do not think Kavar can get a hold of another one as there was very limited quantities and all the Seiko AD's around the world fought for them.
39mm would be outstanding.
This model is best ever from Seiko. đđđ
I think so too!
Very nice case shape and love the ever brilliant steel. The date position ruins it though. To hell with iso standards!
Seiko lobbied the organization to amend the standard to match the actual use of diverâs watches in the deep sea. In 1996, ISO6425, about diverâs watches for mixed gas diving, was issued. So they kind of created that certification in a way. So it is no surprise why they care about it so much.
"If I'm wishing, I might as well get the perfect size" Testify!
Great video, love the macro shots and the watch looks amazing. But for me there are other plenty of other options for the price and at least they have a signed crown....
Geez that's a beauty. But a wee bit big for me. And thick too, at this price point with 200m of WR. Love its lines and hues though.
The bezel is half as thick as the old LX models in height. it wears slim the dome sapphire adds to the height and makes it sound taller. But this one cups the wrist.
@@EscapementWatch Great. But still too long for me. And frankly pretty thick compared to what other some brands are offering at this price point with greater WR.
Such a beautiful watch. They really need to start making limited editions in smaller sizes
Yeah, I am saving up for the day that happens. We might need to wait for a new movement though that could be the reason.
@@EscapementWatch if you stay ready you dont have to get ready hehe
@@El-AYE-Ra1s3d why limmited editions? Just regular editions will do and saves is some money...
@@haping1 you have a point. But its just that they seem to go all out for limited editions. And also, its nice to have things that you wont see a lot people with.
I find on my 6.25 flat wrist it wears big but itâs very comfortable.
Yes similar to the mm200 case, hugs the wrist and is very comfy. Except that strap keeper!
@@EscapementWatch it does hurt... doesnt help the case that it doesnt keep the strap in ever
Did you buy the sla057?
@@KirbyYoung ive had it for about a year now
@aman803 I also have small wrist at 6.35in. The lug to lug of 49mm is massive. How are you liking it so far? Do you daily wear it?
This is the one some will complain that it's to expensive for a Seiko ... should be grand Seiko on the dial . Well guess what it's basically a grand sieko for half the price of a grand sieko diver
Not really a fan of the bezel but great video either way
Fair enough!
I read "You NEED this" and looked at the picture and my mind said "yes you do..."đ
hahahah
A question, does the 8L35 movement is exactly the same as the GS 9S55? What does it mean when they say that it is based on the 9S55? I mean does it has the same components?
Appreciate your reply bro.
Basically the same movement with the same components, just different finishing. The 8L35B has the new escapement skeletonized using MEMS technology, just like the Grand. And the whole movement is based on the first generation 9S. It has since been upgraded for Grand Seiko with improvements like 35 jewels instead of 26 like the 9s55 and 8L
@@EscapementWatch appreciate your reply bro. Thank you so much đđŒ
Do you prefer this one to the Sla055?
I go back and forth on that so I guess equal.
Now THATâs hot! Good deal on the watch rollâŠ.Iâm still thinking the SLA057 is overpriced. Investments?âŠ.no chance! Buy it to wear it. The SLAâs are really superior watches.
Your comment on a certificate is a good one. đŻđ
Glad you think so! If I worked for Seiko they would dominate the world again! hehehe
The need for something akin to COSC or METAS comes up a lot in Seiko discussion forums. You can get a COSC certified ETA/Sellita/STP for less than $2K. (My $1500 Zodiac has one). Seiko doesn't promise any better than -10/+15 on the 8L, which is basic elabore grade 2892 accuracy.
As for these "super MM200s," the ISO compliance continues to be a huge design problem for Seiko. Bevel or not, the date position still looks terrible, and shoving a blob of lume into the minute track is not a solution either. I think Seiko needs to abandon the 28.5mm dial size they've been using for decades, and go to 29.5-30mm on their pro divers.
Yes, I like the idea of a new dial size, it would be a huge benefit in many other ways, especially against modders, homages, if they control the new dial sizes inventory. They wont be able to get the right look. They still can't in most cases but it would create even more of a divide.
Seiko makes a 40 mm diver that's on par with Tudor an only 1200 there you go
Would you choose this or the SLA055?
This one
I could tell you weren't crazy about the ice blue vs the beautiful blue on the sla037
These 20mm straps are silly especially when they taper to 18. They need to be 22mm that taper to no less than 20mm.
Beautiful!! I am 100% with you on Seiko dive watches. They belong on rubber straps! If my SLA043 came with a bracelet, I wouldn't even take the stickers off LOL
Amen Brother!
think it would look better w/o the date but the date is handy, so its a toss-up. beautiful watch
DroooooooolâŠâŠđ€€
I know some of you think with that price point, it should be a GS not Seiko. But let me tell something, in Japan, or some Asia countries, they bought Toyota Altezza, which is an expensive Toyota that prices similar to Mercedes and BMW counterparts. But that wouldn't work in Western markets, so Toyota marketed Toyota Altezza as Lexus IS in the West. Similar to Toyota Harrier in Japan and some Asia markets, the West wouldn't buy Toyota Harrier so Toyota marketed them as Lexus RX. Another example is Honda Civic FD in Japan and other Asia markets, but Honda renamed it as Acura CSX in the West. One more example, Honda NSX is marketed as Acura NSX. They are the same cars, but the West is so obsessed with brands so Toyota Honda and Nissan have to create Lexus Acura and Infiniti. If you know the products, the quality and the reliability, why care so much about brands?
It is a great example. If you judge the product on its merits it is a different story. West cares more about being in a movie like Omega watches. James bond actor only wears the Seamaster because he is paid millions and forced to wear it. So it is fake fame, and forced marketing. Now people go to the 007 movies wearing their Seamaster and feel pride for some reason! Great marketing departments!
@@EscapementWatch that's very funny but sad at the same time... Why buy watches based on fictional characters? Rolex ad titled "celebrating cinema" during Oscar, showcases Rolex watches in the movies, at the end of the ad it says it doesn't just tell time, it tells history. What history? There hardly any real mankind history in Hollywood movies, those are mostly functional stories... But many of us buy watches because of "history" from the movies...
The SLA043 is just more attractive in my opinion đ
You like the brushed Ever brilliant steel then!
@@EscapementWatch I confess đđ
Rectangular indices dont compare, and boring lugs
600, now THAT is limited.
Iâve had a Rolex Submariner for 25 years. Itâs never had corrosion problems.
Yeah not long enough but maybe. Open your case back and check the outer edge of the inside lip of the case back that's were specks of black start.
Put GS on the dial, and a bracelet option and I'd track one down. I love Seiko, but the price point without the GS just seems hard to grasp. It's absolute quality, that's plain to see, I just don't think, at the price point, that Seiko has the brand equity.
The 600 people buying this watch don't want Grand Seiko on the dial.
@@EscapementWatch I agree. I don't want Grand Seiko on the dial. I have an SLA043 and love it. I just wish Seiko put good bracelets on them along with the SHORTER rubber straps and fixed their DAMN SHITTY QUALITY CONTROL and regulated the movement or put a spring drive, and removed that prospects logo. Other than that it's absolutely perfect.
Yea I hear those complaints. I think the bracelet and the need for some type of Seiko seal or certification for luxury watches I ask for at the end of the video is the biggest issues for most buyers.
@@majch many people report their SLAs running very consistently well below the plus 15 allowed. will a piece of paper change that ? my spb187 is plus 1 to 2 seconds a day - consistent when on the wrist.
I just cant get past the fact they didn't have a "S" on the crown
I prefer the word seiko on the crown like the vintage over the 'S' but I get it.
Titles mean absolutely nothing to me. The fact that you mentioned it was anti magnetic tells me that the watch conforms to ISO 6425, an International standard for which Seiko was instrumental in creating. Just check their website.
Isnât Ever Brilliant steel just 904L? If Rolex can make a 904L bracelet, why canât Seiko? I think they just donât have the budget for it at $4600, and thatâs fine. But saying âItâs too hardâ is a cop-out.
No it is not just 904L.
i rather to have it 1000 times to that overhyped swiss brand with waiting listđđđđif i could afford ofcourse....
Might look good with the monster's stainless steel bracelet đ€Łđ€Ł
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Nope. They need to make a homage of itself so the masses can enjoy.
They make an affordable version of this watch which is very similar. All you miss out on is the hand work and finish. The hand assembled casing of the watch, the hand polished escape teeth, the hand polished case *ziratsu*, the hand built by 1 watchmaker movement start to finish, for THOUSANDS LESS: czcams.com/video/kLon1GWBENI/video.html
For this money I would get a Grand Seiko
Breitling Avenger GMT 43mm.
seiko an investment piece.....they'll have another limited edition that looks exactly the same as this one next week!! guaranteed!!
yes they probably will. But lets look at the SLA017. 5 years old. 2000 units made. Its trending above what it was released for. Also, I said do not buy it for investment.
The date placement kills it for me. It looks like an afterthought and should have been omitted in my opinion.
The date positioning bothers me. Iâd prefer if they had just went without a date. Otherwise very nice. But it should have a bracelet. I wish the 6r35 worked as well as this.
Why is this incredibly expensive? Aside from being a limited edition
Just bought an SLA023J brand new direct from Japan for $2,300 USD. I donât think I could justify the extra $2,300 USD for this piece. So basically 2 brand new MM300âs for this one? Nope. Beautiful watch though.
No logo, no logo, no logo on the Crown!!!
But my Rolex is the best watch ever built and is worth 4x retail so I can have the same watch everyone else has and people will think Iâm cool.
I have to say, its always funny to hear people talk about watches lasting multiple generations. As nice as that sounds, unless you're talking about a rolex, or some other high end luxury brand, most brands, like seiko, only keep spare parts for a maximum of 10 to 15 years, after that, if a component breaks, its unlikely to be able to be repaired after that.
Actually it's very simple with modern technology some watchmakers can even make their own parts now it's pretty incredible. But I have some vintage seikos that are over 60 years old with all original parts. (check out my vintage seiko reviews to see how they fair on the timegrapher) Back then they were made to a very high degree with high quality parts just like the modern sla line
15 years after the caliber is done production, not after the watch is released. In some cases they could make the caliber for over 50 years easily. Then continue to produce parts for 15 years which they do not throw out. These spare parts are not in high demand as you rarely need a part if you service the watch correctly. Seiko only 'guarantees' it for 15 years but in my experience they always have the spare parts.
@@EscapementWatch its possible, the technology exists, but is very expensive and rare to find a waychmaker these days that will do it. I've definitely personally seen people with old seikos come to a service centre only to be turned away, with seiko saying they don't make parts for it anymore, so they can't do a repair.
@@AnnoyinglyCharming mostly modern calibres get updated every 20 years or so. And a watch released today could have a 15 year old calibre in it. Giving it 5 years till retired, extra 15 years on top of that for parts, you're looking at 20-30 years of parts being available. You're certainly gonna struggle getting a 40 year old watch repaired from alot of mid tier brands. So that usually rules out multiple generations of wear...
In any case, its still great that you can purchase a watch that will most likely be possible to last the rest of your life, which is great in this modern age of disposable items, its just unfortunately unrealistic to assume most watch could be past on to not only the next generation, but also the generation after that... Beyond non-functional antiques at least
I've got a Seiko tells me the time right twice a day.
Same problem with seiko,the minute hand is offset by 10 to 15 sec,stop the vid at 8:04 and u will see it
no i did not set the hands with the seconds hand at midnight zeroing the hands. You can only tell if I set the minute hand on an exact marker and the seconds hand at 12. Which I never do it takes too long each shot.
No signed crown and bracelet at that price point? That's.. a hard pass. Also way too large. It does look fantastic though
At that price, you buy it! Thatâs Omega territory.
Canât do that price. Nope
All that money and they can't even sign the crown
Itâs $4500 and sold out.
4K for a Seiko ? Not for me thank you. I prefer to buy Tudor or Oris or Brietling.
Printed SEIKO on the dial? Hard pass.
This watch is double in price what it should be. Poor movement for a $5,000 watch. Hard pass.
POOR MOVEMENT!?!?! Lol! Are you kidding ???
This poor movement gives me +1s a day. Lol
@@anders34 You wish.
â@@sengo2143 I'm getting +2 boi!đ
Great watch but overpriced would never pick this over a bb58 breitling superoacean or seamaster diver
Beside personal preference, I don't see why this watch cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as the watches you mentioned. Thanks!
Lol!
Why would I buy a $4600 watch that has a poorly designed keeper that hurts the wrist ? Nope.
NO CHANCE! Way too much for this watch. The SLAâs are boss watches for sure. But they are NOT top tier worth huge money. These are $2500 USD watchesâŠ.at best.
Superocean or this?
if your a bracelet guy super ocean!
For that money you can buy Breitling Avenger GMT.
completely different category of watch. Plus the off the Shelf 3rd party ETA based movement is in much cheaper watches. That breitling is overpriced.
@@EscapementWatch Third party? Do your homework.
Ok I was RIGHT! I looked it up. It uses Breitling Caliber Number 32, B32 In-House? No! Base Caliber ETA 2893-2. So it is based on a 3rd party off the shelf movement seen in much cheaper watches.
â@@sengo2143 go back to school boi!đ
For that price, I can get an Omega divers watch.
I think with a $15 casio I'll be doing just fine đđ