The Best And Most Expensive Seiko Diver SLA055J1 - SLA057J1
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I just realized how much I like your channel! It's not so much the watches, (I do love them) but it is your presentation! I love how you do the different characters. Particularly the references to the past.
That’s the sun my friend! Even if you don’t like the watch I’m reviewing you still come along for the ride!!;) very kind thank you!
I always love the what the wife said segment. I truly don't understand why these are not regulated to a tighter tolerance. You are right in that it should be expected at that price range. Seiko frustrates me sometimes.
That is an absolute stunner, I love everything about it. I even like the strap! That price though… while understandable not a chance. I could fully rebuild my 1957 MGA for that.
Gorgeous watch, love Sekio.
Great vid as always and a fantastic review. 👏 brilliant mate brilliant and very funny 😁 😂
Great review. After actually seeing the steel against the dial and light blue bezel numbering, I have to say it’s a fabulous looking bit of kit. Even with a regulated engine, the price is still way off the mark. But, to the even more hardcore Seiko collectors out there, it’s a nice to have depreciatory add to their collections. 8/10 from me.
Fair enough my friend!!!! Thanks for the support as usual!!
I checked it out yesterday, and was shocked to see the bezel insert a third of a minute to the right, and the chapter ring a quarter minute to the left. That's embarrassing for a luxury watch. Nice polishing though. Even in this video the insert is misaligned and it's not even subtle
Spot on Russell! Great review, lovely watch, not worth the money unless you have bucket loads. Agree completely ! 👌👍😊
Cheers Dale!
I like these. I ended up with a Seiko MM300, because bracelet and silicone strap are both included, plus they're a steal now with the weak yen
Just found your channel and loving your presentation style mate. Love the look of the SLA055 but have just gone for the SPB325 for a similar look at a quarter of the price. Keep the great content coming!
Thank you my friend!
It is a lovely watch no two ways about it! However for £4,100 I could not justify that. I would much rather have a new Tudor or a used Omega for that money. Thanks for the review.
It’s a fair comment RAA RAA!
It’s a reasonable sentiment but I wouldn’t even put an Omega Seamaster or Tudor Black Bay in the same class as this Seiko. Having owned a $5k Ocean Planet and now wearing a $6k Seiko LX Spring Drive regularly, the craftsmanship and value is miles apart in favor of the LX, inside and out.
@@nickchang5293 I just can't get around the Tudor being a "poor man's Rolex". I know that's not fair, and Tudors have started to be their own thing, but, objectively speaking, a Seiko Marinemaster is a superior watch in every way to the Tudor Black Bay, better movement (even if these assholes don't regulate it from the factory for some weird reason), polishing superior to a Rolex, ceramic insert (though Tudor may have started adding that to the BB by now), better specs and tighter tolerances in the parts. Never understood why some people think the Tudor is somehow more "elitist"; just not the case.
@@nickchang5293 My Omega, on the other hand, while not better in terms of material, does boast more attention to detail. Of course it cost over twice as much so it had better.
@@nickchang5293 That said, one of the reasons for this SLA055's high price is the "ever-brilliant" steel that Seiko developed as a super corrosion-resistant steel to compete against Rolex's L908. Their first watch to use this was the limited edition SBEX009 which was over $6k because of it, and, as far as I know, is the only other watch that was made from it so far.
Great show Russell! Hope Mr Pagani's horse does better on its next outing 😂
That is a certified stunner! However the price is flipping eye watering 🙈 definitely one for the deep pocketed hard-core Seiko collector.
Great review as always Russell, I had already seen this watch and I also think it's over priced but that being said it's still a fantastic looking watch with a top movement but for the price I would be looking at a Tudor or the new longines Diver with the new 5hz movement in it, keep them review coming buddy 👍
Just pulled the trigger on a grand Seiko diver , 9f quartz ,it solves most of the issues especially second hand, I paid 1200 pounds in Japan ,which is a quarter of the price of that thing .better finishing and runs at 5 seconds per year accuracy .......job done
These are such beautiful watches. Anything from Seiko with the 6R or 8R movement is generally going to be pretty good. Personally for me I'd rather save money and get either the Willard or an Alpinist. I bought myself a Seiko Alpinist SPB155 and so far enjoying it for the most part. Love the fact Seiko makes dive watches for people with small wrists.
The 6r is junk. The random luck you get with one isn’t worth their asking price new. 2nd hand it’s barely ok. The sla055/57 second hand price is what their msrp should be. I’m on the fence right now about picking one up 2nd hand for 3k~
@@jeremiahpayne2084 The SPB155 mentioned above can be had for $575 or even less from an AD. Say what you will about the 6R, but it's fair at that price in a brand new watch. The problem is that Seiko generally wants to charge 2x or more for it. I'm surprised they haven't discontinued the SPB155 altogether as it seems to contradict the direction they want to head. Which I think, for the record, is an unfortunate one!
Agree, I love Seiko (as so many of us do), love the look, nice movement but not the best, especially at this price point. At this hefty a price there are A LOT of options from A LOT of brands with equal heritage and (most) are COSC certified. We know Seiko builds some incredible watches and this one doesn't disappoint, but I would be hard pressed to lay down my hard earned cash for this one.
Love the reviews, keeping the price to the end on the pricey ones 👍👍. I’m guilty of turning off if they’re out of my league 😔. Seikostu says keep going, stay safe. 🍺.
Thank you my friend! Will do!!
Great review of a fantastic piece.
Beautiful watch, but......I'll stick with my King Turtle Dark Manta. Love your presentations MWC!!
Thank you my friend! That’s a great watch!!
Great Watch! Love your channel !! Inspite of being a certified diver for quite a few years now Iv'e never had much of an opinion on Dive watches in general. Its only recently that a good friend of mine got me looking at them.I find it interesting that you rarely if ever see a R Submariner in the water. Mostly Seikos and Citizens sometimes a Doxa. Maybe its just the crowd I'm around. Can you tell me how the watch in your review compares to a SPB 087 - SPB 077 ? Perhaps you can do a review of one of these. Keep up the great reviews my friend!!
Good job, and quite entertaining, you would be a hell of a watch salesmen, or comedian or both!,
Can't wait to watch this! Seeing the early access comments, I can glean some context of how you feel about it. I bought the SLA057 (the gilt version) a month ago and I have to say, it's incredible. The finishing compared to the Tudor BB58 I had is on another level entirely! Even compared side by side to my buddy's Omega SMP300, it's impressive! For me, it was more than worth selling my BB58 for. Having said that, I think you have to be a fan of Seiko's diver design and the history behind them. For me, the 62MAS and MM300 designs are my favorite dive watch designs full stop. Grand Seikos dive watches have never appealed to me, but Seiko? My favorite! This is the best of both worlds for me. It gives me the legendary design, but Grand Seiko finishing and movement! I happen to be a nato guy, so the fact it doesn't come with a bracelet doesn't bother me. From a finishing standpoint, I think the price is warranted and is on the level of other watches in the same price range (or even more so). I understand why not everyone would want to drop that kind of money on a Seiko, but given my love of Seiko dive watch design, the SLA057 is the holy grail for me!
it would get you about 2 BB58s though. For 4k i'd go pre-owned grand seiko. you get the polishing etc and a better movement.
It’s a good shout but what a watch!!!!
It’s a beautiful watch my friend! Just the movement that lets it down for me . F it was chronometer certified I think you can get a more justified argument with the price ? Still want one though!!!
Oh even the mm300 puts everything below the omega smp300 to shame finishing wise. That's the difference between say high end Seiko and omega and Tudor. Tudor makes tool and reissue watches. Omega and say anything above the mm300 from Seiko are purely luxury watches.
@@masonsnakes4721 Man, I gotta tell ya, even though I loved my BB58, the SLA is on another level in terms of case design/finishing (it’s finished by Grand Seiko). Funny enough, I was able to purchase a “Like New” but pre-owned SLA for exactly what I sold my BB58 for. Couldn’t be happier!
Best reviews on CZcams.
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Matthew you are very kind thank you my friend!
That watch is slicker than snot on a doorknob. I like it! Slick stunna!
Just now catching up on my CZcams consumption. Nice video and I understand your point about the unregulated movement. To the comments regarding COSC certification, COSC only certifies "Swiss made" movements.
Another Great review from TMWC. I like the robust looking bezel.
Thank you my friend!
Stunner! Hard to come to terms with the price though. Also noted that £4100 still doesn’t get you a signed crown from Seiko - the stubborn buggers aren’t giving in on that one 🤣
It's a lovely piece for sure but if I put a chocolate bar strap on the spb187 you would have to get pretty close to tell the difference.
Good review and fun to watch, can you please do the new seiko 5 GMT review, thanks
Beautiful watch please do a review on the grand ones too please
Always look forward to the wife's unfiltered opinion. Great video. It's a stunner!!!
New to watches, but how does this compare to the spb143? Is it worth the 3 racks above that watch?
Oh blimey seiko , like you say , it needs to be a grand seiko in that price range !, great video again, always makes me laugh, 🤣👍
Cheers Paul!!!
great review, nice looking, but for that price tag i got my aqua terra, which is COSC and METAS certified with a average rate of +0.5- 1 second a day, decorated exhibition caseback and a silicon hairspring and a co-axial escapement. Aqua terra isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the bang for buck at this price is far better i’d wager.
i just think they're out of their minds frankly, at that price to not regulate at the least.
It’s a fair point my friend! Appreciate the support!
Hi Russell, I own a seiko sla043, the 62mas , with the blue seconds hand. At 40mm it's a great size for most people. The movement should be regulated, but it's still essentially a grand seiko movement. The sla 043, is a gorgeous watch, and just as well made as any omega in this 4k price point. I got mine used but mint so nearly half price. At half price it's easily worth the money imho.
I would let you review it , if I could get it off my wrist , lol
Well said Martin!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR have you ever reviewed or seen the sla043 in person ?
I tend to agree with the Trouble and Strife - and not regulated. I agree-that is criminal! Hot tip-bet on Case Back A Go Go.
Just to add, this watch won a Red Dot design award as well. I have it and there is something subtle about it, I can't stop staring but I can't pinpoint at what specifically.
So I had to pause the video near the start and google the price ****spat out drink**** wow!! Gotta say it is a beaut though! This video was just pure class Russ, a helluva lot of hours gone into that! Loved it mate!!
Greggieboy I appreciate that a lot thank you my friend!! I know you watch a fair few channels so it means more to me!;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Welcome pal!
My Marinemaster 300 has the same movement. Gained 5 seconds over 7 days :)
Holy sheeeet 4100 quid! Its a lovely watch but id rather have 4 seikos at a lesser price and use the left over money to take the misses out or on holiday. Great review tho! Well done Russell
Great shout Ian!!!
Yes
Seiko has always had high degree of stated error in the movement accuracy. I find even with budget seiko that they are fairly accurate for the price. I would be willing to bet that if that movement were looked at professionally it would be darn close to cosc regulations. I understand people pay to have it and not saying they shouldn’t but if you don’t care about cosc then this watch would be great.
Your wife's comments are always on point!
Thanks for watching my friend!
Incredible watch!!!! I would sell all my watches to buy this...... sadly I still couldn't afford it.
Great review Russell, really enjoyed watching this one. This Seiko is now high on my list too :)
Dan I want this one!! The heart is taking over the head?!!!
My “like” took the vid from 999 to 1,000 thumbs up-very satisfying!
Yes!!! Thank you!
The strap is from the original ‘Willard’,as worn in the film by Martin Sheen.
Been after one for ages for my Steeldive.
That’s a nice watch,but waaaaaaaaay out of my price league.
All the best.
Out of nearly everyone’s my friend!!!;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I’ll wait for a accurate Steeldive version…🤣😉
I think the whole non regulated thing is a red herring. There's several videos of these on timegraphers which show them operating within COSC, and that goes for all SLAs with an 8L movement.
Wow! There’s so much to love with this one! An incredible looking watch that could sit alongside any of the iconic Swiss divers in a collection and not look out of place Unfortunately for us mere mortals it’s got the price tag to match too 😂
Totally agree that the movement not being regulated is a bit disappointing though. I know accuracy isn’t the be all and end all with mechanical watches but surely at this kind of price a regulated movement should come as standard, right? Especially when it’s an in house Seiko engine. They aren’t bunging an off the shelf Sellita in these. They’re doing all of the incredible hand assembly and the industry leading hand finishing and then leaving the movement as it is 🤷♂️
You need to get a Grand Seiko diver in for review now MWC. See how it compares to this one.
Thanks Gareth! Yes!!! It’s almost as though they forgot to put the icing in the cake with the movement!!!!??? If you want high accuracy your gonna need to go GS!!!! Yes need a GS diver now!
Agreed. They use premium parts and material, assembled by master craftsman, charge an arm, a leg and half a scrotum for it, then, weirdly, don't go that last half mile? WTF??
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I mean, the movement has clearly proven to be capable of it.
When Russell kept referring to price, I was thinking… well hey it’s a damn nice watch. How bad could it be? And then he said the price and suddenly my good old SKX and mini turtle seemed to meet my needs just fine.
Hahahahaha fair enough my friend!
I prefer the 57 myself but the price makes them just for the die hard Seiko collector and only the rich ones at that. I'd definitely get a Tudor over this though. You getting the new seiko gmt in anytime soon?
Is the chapter ring slightly off. I know angles can make it appear so but some of your straight on photos look slightly to the right. 7:25 for close up example
Very pleasant to look at but would defiantly save some £££ and go for a Tudor Pelagos or BB.
Fair enough my friend!
Thanks!
Garry!!! You are very kind thank you!! Appreciate that alot!!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I hope we will more from Caseback-a-Gogo!
It's a bit of a chunky munky but it fits you well. Seiko magic. They do need to deliver the trimmings though, especially on models 800$ and up.
It is a beautiful watch, but I love my Captain Willard so much.
Superb watch!
As always, another great review! An unregulated watch at £4100? Seiko is taking the piss!
I was looking at this from Jura watches a few days ago and asked myself if it’s really worth the hype. 8L35 engine is considered pretty high end albeit an unrefined cousin to the 9 series. Accuracy in a 4K watch should be COSC standard in my book. Hey, but we get Grand Seiko effort thrown in, like Sapphire and zaratsu polishing on that ever so precious version of steel. Then you get a measly 200m rating on divability? For a little over quarter of the cost (and a generous discount) I got a Doxa with SW200 engine, sapphire, 1,200m divability and the all important history behind it. In short, the limited edition angle just ain’t gonna cut it with this one and it’s certainly not a deep pockets sensible move.
Could comments here my friend! I love it, I want it but it just isn’t a 4k watch imo
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I think the price point realistically is around £1,500 to £1,750.
@@rayharrison6400 you’re mad, it’s basically a grand seiko in a seiko, and you talk of history like seiko had none 🤦♂️🤣😂 I got this for £2200 so can’t go wrong. Both great watches, wear yours in good health 👍
You forgot that sw200 is just derp movement,I would slap someone who would buy 2k watch with sellita 200 infact miyota 9 series is better than 4r,6,r series,better than powermatic 80 and definitely better than SW 200.
If Panerai can basically put a powermatic movement in their 20k watch than this sla with ,8l movement seems like a Rolls Royce compare to Panerai.
in this range of price the Seiko LX line is amazing
Delusion.
Definitely worth the price
Great watch 😁 but the price I must say had let me down 😃, I rather buy an omega anyway nice content Mr mad Russell 😜
Thank you for this my friend! I can see that ;)
I am expensive Seiko ready 🙌🙌
love your wife's reviews!!
To the point!;)
Great show as usual, but I think I'll stick with my blue faced Omega Seamaster professional 300 M, with its matching rubber strap. It costs less than this and it's fully certified. A true competitor to the Submariner.
If I had the money and money was no object I’d personally take this over a Seamaster but the METAS chronometer is another level!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR check out the Tudor BB ceramic. It's essentially an omega seamster with a ceramic blacked out case, classic Tudor looks and a 70 hour power reserve for less than the smp300 at retail.
Yours is a £5200 watch, not less?
Great video, I really like your outdoor walks and thoughts, it gives a unique dynamic (haven't seen it anywhere else), as if we're out with a friend. Well done, again.
For the price of this Seiko you can get a lot of really, really excellent watches which I would prefer, like the Tudor as mentioned.
Thank you my friend I do feel it adds a different dynamic for sure!!!
Great review! Very nice watch, but it's not a perlative ceronometer, is it?
Hahahahaha no!!;)
I would buy this stunna when casebackagogo gets off the peanut butter
Great show man !
Hahahahaha me to!!!!
Oh by the way, excellent videos.
Great show Russ. Too much £££ for that watch as nice as it is. I’ll be sticking with my Willard(s) and I reckon you will be too?
hold the phone, more than $4000 and no signed crown... come on Seiko wtf. great review very entertaining as usual!
Honestly that is insane money for a seiko. I’ll keep my Oris Aquis thank you.
Do it my friend!!
Love your channel,and your wife is just great! women!!😂😂
Will you be reviewing the new SPB381?
Where is this available from
Hmmm, its a NO from me .lol How Much! Totally agree about the COSC certification but if you have Ducktales money then why not . Brilliant show as ever and Mr Pagani did not dissapoint lol
Seiko Driver LX spring drive GMT is $10k...🤔. thats a beautifully beast
I don't consider this the best Seiko diver. I believe that honour belongs to the SLGA001. So awesome.
Great watch for sure, it is fairly "blingy".
I was peeping at your notebook during "what the wife said", are you considering a Spanish channel? lol
Hahaha! God knows my friend! I scribble the wife’s comments in any little space I can find!!!
Average pre-owned price on these has now dropped to about £2,700. Very tempting at that price!
How could it be the evolution on the 6159 as it is not a monobloc case.
I would prefer to get the "Marine Master" latest edition which apparently is still a monobloc case. Or even better like you mentioned the Tudor Black Bay.
seiko LX models are the best and most expensive seiko divers …ive held both on my hands and the LX with spring drive felt a step above… LX is basically GS
Just had the strangest in sporty handset of all time!!!!!!??;(
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR i am blessed that i live in Tokyo and able to hold these awesome pieces… they are a tad over my budget tho
I own a few GS and other SLA watches. The quality of this watch screams GS.
The fit and Finnish is comparable the my GS.
The 055/057 along with the gorgeous 043 are unique because of the ever brilliant steel. GS has a stunning dress/sport watch with this steel on a bracelet. Over $9500. The 043 has a brushed case, not polished. I wear it to work on a farm. Durable!
The only real negative is that Seiko doesn't regulate the movement.
My 055 is +2,. The 043 -7 , the 049 +5. Peter Kotsa regulated his 043. It runs at 0.
Is it worth the cost? Yes. If Seiko would only regulate the 8l.
SLA037 🐐
stunning looking case ..dial ..an absolute strap monster ..but at that price why oh why didn't they fettle the movements accuracy...that let's a fantastic watch down sadly
It makes no sense Mark!!!;) thanks for watching!
It's almost like Prospex has become the new "almost GS but not quite" for nearly the same amount of money......like you ill stick to my more cheaper Seiko's........please review the new Tudor BB Pro as ive just purchased one and would like to know what you think of it #MWC 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Gary your right!!!;) I’ll get a BBPRO in soon;)
Just out of curiosity, but where do you place the bb58 bezel on your leaderboard?
The BB58 is my favourite bezel of all time my friend . 25 points I think it got in the WBF!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I have to agree with you .. it’s pretty special isn’t it .. for fidgetability as you’d say.. 😂👍🏼
I like when you said "if it said grand Seiko on the dial nobody would bat an eye". Funny how society works lol
Absolutely man!
If you can get this watch around $3500 it's so worth it. The BB58 is $3950 and it has an aluminum bezel and an inferior case and finishing
For a bit more you can get an Omega Seamaster 300m diver brand new with a discount at the AD. Far better watch, and both COSC and METAS certified. This Seiko is undoubtedly a good watch, but your money would be far better off buying an Omega SMP or Tudor Black Bay Heritage 41, another better watch.
Good points my friend! But a Seiko just has that magic!!;)
How does this compare to the likes of the SPB143? They look fairly similar but this is 4x the price!
The SPB feels like a tool watch , love it but this was like looking at a king!
The sla models are way higher quality then the spb models. You have to see one , to realise how good they are. Easily as good as an omega , if not better, in terms of finishing. If you can get one preowned for a good price , then you won't be disappointed.
This one certainly has some amazing specs and outstanding finishing, but at over £4K for a Seiko in such a competitive 'premium' category doesn't hold up IMO, especially considering the lack of COSC level certification and accuracy. A timepiece for Seiko fan boys/girls - get a Tudor BB58 otherwise.
I agree the msrp for this is absurd but 2nd hand is not so bad. The bb58 has no curves or love put into the case design. Just a big boring slab of polished steel.
Not sure what happened to my first Super thanks so here is another, hopefully the first one turns up
You shouldn’t have done that!!! Thank you!!!
Are the SNR references pricier than this one? They are Spring Drive.
SNR041 or SNR029 please!
Think your right! The GMT is!
idk man, if Nodus can regulate Seiko's basic NH36 movement to their watch in the tolerances range that are more or less in the COSC area, i don't think Seiko should let it unregulated especially for the price of a Tudor Black Bay lol 😬
It’s a great point to be fair!
The 8L35 is a VERY good movement, the one on my Marinemaster runs better than the COSC in my BB58: btw 0 (ZERO) and +1s/day ! Imagine if regulated 😂
Great watch but too expensive. Thanks for the review.
Agreed!!!! Thanks for watching!!
Great watch, but why-oh-why not line the crown up with the 4 index, as on the original? It drives me bonkers.
Agree me my friend!!
The Seiko SNK809 looks at the watch and thinks to itself, “ I want to be like that watch one day.” Honestly, there’s something intangibly interesting about all Seikos no matter their price range.
Absolutely 100% my friend!
Almost as nice as my Duro! 🤪
Not quite!!!!
The same price i bought a brand new Omega SMP300 12 months ago..... grand Seiko maybe but you can buy so much more than a Seiko for this money.... i'd expect in-house and COSC for this money as a minimum.
World bezelling federation hahahahha needs to be its own show ;-)
For price of it you can have mm300 plus beautifull spb240j1 in my opinion better combo, but If you have them then why not?