Over 13:1 on Pump Gas! Chevy 350 Dyno Mule - Engine Power S9, E9 &10

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  • Last year we built a 350 ci Small Block Chevy in the parking lot. This year it comes inside for some well-deserved high compression upgrades to the short block assembly. We finish our 350 ci Small Block Chevy with high-performance induction, then we put it to the test in the dyno cell!
    00:00 - Intro
    01:01 - Build Overview
    06:35 - Teardown
    12:49 - Engine Prep
    21:33 - Engine Assembly
    28:35 - Compression Lesson
    32:44 - Cylinder Head & EFI Install
    37:38 - Dyno Pulls
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Komentáře • 898

  • @PowerNationTV
    @PowerNationTV  Před rokem +31

    Watch the build: czcams.com/video/TH-IAT7-wis/video.html

    • @douglasburford8452
      @douglasburford8452 Před rokem +2

      What possessed you to use Autolite sparkplugs in a GM engine? 50 years ago I used Champions in everything. Then I learned they usually were not the best option and switched to OEM recommended plugs.

    • @markatkinson7920
      @markatkinson7920 Před rokem +1

      I had a lot of luck with Bosch plugs in a worn valve guide (burned oil) small block.

    • @gregeverett2290
      @gregeverett2290 Před rokem +1

      build a 5.4 3v triton

    • @billywilliams6853
      @billywilliams6853 Před rokem +3

      Pat Now try E-85 fuel ⛽

    • @Dane33781
      @Dane33781 Před rokem +1

      The hosts are proof that you can say almost anything with confidence and people will believe you.

  • @rynev3392
    @rynev3392 Před rokem +523

    I miss the days when I would wake up Saturday or Sunday morning waiting for this show, for well over a decade that was my life

    • @Harleybobber
      @Harleybobber Před rokem +21

      I totally done the same thing my brother!

    • @Vlad-nw8rx
      @Vlad-nw8rx Před rokem +16

      same here...I watched Spanish fly and walkers cay chronicles on ESPN 2 for my fishing early Saturday morning then switched to the car shows on CMT

    • @MerlinOpeth
      @MerlinOpeth Před rokem +21

      Yeah bro speed tv, truck u, Spencer Tracy,power nation good times.

    • @jasonhumphry5836
      @jasonhumphry5836 Před rokem +14

      Popular hot rodding as well

    • @robertquackenbush5547
      @robertquackenbush5547 Před rokem +22

      Yea I remember watching this on Sunday mornings along with gears with Stacy david

  • @billambrose5287
    @billambrose5287 Před 10 měsíci +6

    This is a 50 year old concept & I built one back in the mid 70's using a Crower Cam designed for high compression . Got 24 mpg & ran it in my '72 El Camino for many years .
    Great vid fellows .

  • @fasteddy
    @fasteddy Před rokem +50

    I rebuilt a 396 big block from my 69 chevelle in the parking lot at Ft. Belvoir Virginia in "75" when I was in the Army. Finished it just as the MP'S were telling me I couldn't do repairs in the parking lot 🙃

    • @Deeznuts84356
      @Deeznuts84356 Před rokem +8

      Thanks for your service 🇺🇸. Chevelle is on of my favorite classic cars.

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 Před rokem +6

      Many an engine has been torn down in the barracks parking lot.

    • @buckster2575
      @buckster2575 Před rokem +2

      Had a 67 ss chevelle.im a VA boy .had a couple swaps in mine to.

    • @natelorimer8567
      @natelorimer8567 Před rokem

      Repaired transmission in the barracks parking. MP watched me. Not a drop of oil. Was done in 4 hours. He waved and drove off. Haha

  • @ryanroberts3742
    @ryanroberts3742 Před rokem +71

    Honestly watching how Frankie has grown in to the host that he is, is fantastic. He is so much more comfortable now and it is obvious how much Pat and Frankie really like each other. Love this show more and more now

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers Před rokem +6

      Absolutely! Just like how Tony Angelo got to much hate at first, but he grew into being in the limelight. I had seen so many BS comments of people talking crap, but he got used to it just like I knew he would. Constructive criticism is one thing with some people, but it's another thing to badmouth and trash someone for nor being comfortable in front of a camera that's being displayed to millions. I know that's not what you were trying to say obviously, I'm referring to the talkers of BS.

    • @stevenchavez2003
      @stevenchavez2003 Před rokem +4

      I always liked Mike the most. But Frankie is definitely a good host. I like him.

    • @colekitten1367
      @colekitten1367 Před rokem

      Frankie knowledge is growing it’s awesome to watch I have been watching since Mike was to cohost Frankie is doing pretty dang good he knows his stuff

    • @BIGGIEDEVIL
      @BIGGIEDEVIL Před rokem

      Frankie used to come across so awkward and super uncomfortable on tv now it seems natural and just a normal day at the office for the both of these guys

    • @shanegreen268
      @shanegreen268 Před rokem +1

      Is mental illness hereditary

  • @bozodog428
    @bozodog428 Před rokem +58

    Love watching Pat and Frankie work together. They're the dynamic duo!

    • @moedog07
      @moedog07 Před rokem +6

      Maybe the "Dyno Duo"

    • @swatson0061
      @swatson0061 Před rokem

      I always liked Pat and Mike Galley.

  • @theeoddments960
    @theeoddments960 Před rokem +63

    These new engine power videos are easily the best that they’ve ever been. It’s all about the personalities and they’ve nailed it

    • @bigal878
      @bigal878 Před rokem +1

      Agree mate 👍🏻🇦🇺

    • @mattyallwood
      @mattyallwood Před rokem

      Absolutely agree 🇦🇺

    • @edwardmyers1746
      @edwardmyers1746 Před rokem

      Just letting the boys be boys 🤙 no fake acting.

    • @trentdawg2832
      @trentdawg2832 Před rokem +2

      These videos are over 15 yrs old

    • @MrR6guy
      @MrR6guy Před rokem

      agree! they are trying to compete with engine Masters

  • @jeffbonacci2584
    @jeffbonacci2584 Před rokem +25

    I took a college course back in the late eighties that was taught by a cam grinder.
    His point was “ effective pressure “.
    Finally, a automotive show that is addressing all points around this conversation. Great job guys. Stay with the higher level shows. Your dynamic compression ratio show was great.

  • @gailmrutland6508
    @gailmrutland6508 Před rokem +72

    *When wrenches get it in physics, geometry, chemistry with a slug of high engineering it becomes a whole other level. You guys are are the PhD in automotive tech, outstanding presentation.*

    • @toddbridges7430
      @toddbridges7430 Před rokem +1

      @@bigboreracing356 I am a newb, no doubt but did find their little details interesting for sure. I was however wondering about the usefulness of the build as you mentioned for say my “grocery getter”
      At the end they mentioned that they saw it had vacuum in the pan which somehow informed them that there was no detonation occurring.
      If not to much of an ask, can you explain that?

    • @MrR6guy
      @MrR6guy Před rokem

      @@bigboreracing356 You are so Uninformed! guys like you tell people they can build engines and then blame the parts when it doesn't run for shit or blows up..PASS! NEXT! avoid this doof like the Aids It is!

    • @timothythomas1737
      @timothythomas1737 Před rokem

      @@bigboreracing356 I can't Beleive they bolted those heads back on. Lol

    • @mjh123crh
      @mjh123crh Před rokem

      @@toddbridges7430 No blow by past the rings which causes a positive pressure in the lower end.

    • @scottm7341
      @scottm7341 Před rokem +1

      @@bigboreracing356 A compression test will show the dynamic compression only at cranking speed, which brings up something these guys don't understand - an engine running in it's power band will not have reduced dynamic compression. Air has inertia, and continues to flow in and fill the cylinder after the piston has started back up in the compression stroke, which is called the ram effect. That is the whole point of single plane intakes and tunnel rams - enhancing the ram effect, resulting in greater cylinder filling, even exceeding 100%. It is only at low rpm that air gets pushed out of the cylinder and back into the intake manifold on the compression stroke, resulting in less charge and reduced effective compression.

  • @kanebfr
    @kanebfr Před rokem +23

    Great episode, although I'd like to see a follow up two different ways. 1: bring cam back to straight up, add some octane and see what is the difference in output. 2: lower static compression to run cam straight up on the pump gas and see how that compares. My question is, is it worth it to try and "cheat" the compression to octane or not!

  • @Ian_Mag
    @Ian_Mag Před rokem +87

    Great to see the traditional V8 engine tech! It’d be really interesting to see more “non-traditional” builds. Something like a Subaru or Porsche Boxer motor or even a rotary. I think it would be really cool watching the guys go outside of their comfort zone!

    • @dohcsmr1175
      @dohcsmr1175 Před rokem +4

      Won’t happen. Biggest reasons are cost, availability and interest. Building those…………other motors are just not cost affective hp per dollar.

    • @olingerscreations3709
      @olingerscreations3709 Před rokem +2

      Newer boxer engine build would be cool

    • @colstonmulligan2598
      @colstonmulligan2598 Před rokem

      Shpeek up librul this murca crank hogs divorce barb drink beer tree fitty smol blocc hog cam camul hump heads

    • @Ian_Mag
      @Ian_Mag Před rokem +7

      They’re a nationally syndicated television show, I don’t think I’d be too hard to find sponsors to support a build if y’all are worried about money. ARP, rock auto, autozone all support boxer motors. Also why does it matter how much power they make, it’s about showing how a motor is built. Incase HP does matter (for some reason) it’s not too difficult to make 500+ on a 2.5L turbo Subaru motor on 93 oct. 650+ on water/methanol which would be super cool to see

    • @tuckerhiggins4336
      @tuckerhiggins4336 Před rokem +3

      Everyone loves a good rotary

  • @PumpkinDefender
    @PumpkinDefender Před rokem +54

    I would love to see a build using the absolute minimal amount of tools: floor jacks, no power tools, etc. I think it’d be very informative for younger enthusiasts who can only afford the bare basics along with being an interesting challenge for y’all.

    • @Ausblack
      @Ausblack Před rokem +4

      There's another program on this channel where they do that fix people's cars in their own driveway.

    • @charlesfollette9692
      @charlesfollette9692 Před rokem +1

      Roadkill does a lot of that

    • @slowpoke96Z28
      @slowpoke96Z28 Před rokem

      Except don't forget the block washer and sunnen bore hone lol. We all have those in or garage right?

    • @kkoch666
      @kkoch666 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yeah, this isn't a budget channel, nor should it be. As stated, there are other shows to watch.

    • @javanbybee4822
      @javanbybee4822 Před 10 měsíci

      @@slowpoke96Z28why can’t you just take your engine to a machine shop to get it honed and cleaned? No one expects you to have specialized engine machining equipment.

  • @anthonypesqueira7540
    @anthonypesqueira7540 Před rokem +19

    The 350 was always capable of making alot of power naturally. These engines were awesome.

  • @fransb8543
    @fransb8543 Před rokem +8

    Knowledgeable, no-nonsense, skillful. Highly enjoyable to watch!

  • @trentonmurphy5156
    @trentonmurphy5156 Před rokem +24

    IF at all possible, it would be nice to see both cams used and the crank key used in each position and see the data that may show what it does and benefit us for our project vechiles. Keep the hard work up!

    • @jonathandeitrick5283
      @jonathandeitrick5283 Před rokem +1

      ya i wanted to see if they had to dial the timing back with the smaller duration cam because higher dynamic compression. and just to see how it compares

    • @Michaelobama184
      @Michaelobama184 Před rokem +1

      Toyota Tacoma has an engine with variable valve timing. It adavances the cam timing when you get into it and it runs like a V8 engine and runs like a mellow V6 engine when you're just cruising

    • @GatesRapes
      @GatesRapes Před rokem +1

      ​@@Michaelobama184 and they last 500k miles

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 Před rokem +13

    Doing a 13.0+ compression engine build to see if it runs on pump gas without detonation becomes a moot point when the total ignition timing is only 22 degrees! Chevy 350 builds normally make max power between 34-38 total timing.
    Regardless, I NEVER get tired of watching people build engines!

    • @erikradzins
      @erikradzins Před rokem +1

      You want the most power, with the lowest timing number, which showcases how good the head/combustion chamber is. Many ultra HP engines run 0-15 degrees total at WOT

    • @ED--wh8zt
      @ED--wh8zt Před rokem +1

      @@erikradzins It will be lazy off low rpms we run as close to 28* as we can given the fuel quality. It might sing on top but will be lazy getting there.

    • @buschenterprises4788
      @buschenterprises4788 Před rokem

      I pretty much agree. They should have went up on timing, until they felt it was getting into detonation. They would probably also seen, the engine running after the ignition was cut. The power they made was not very impressive, and they could’ve made a lot more. I hope they continue with the R&D here
      The intake center line is not proper for anything. And no engine builder would do that on purpose. Another reason, why it was dismal on power. Honestly, I think they were setting themselves up for the most possible gain, when they change the camshaft
      Another interesting test would be, to put the intake centerline where it belongs, on 107, and add some E85 to the 93, making E25-30

    • @erikradzins
      @erikradzins Před rokem

      @@ED--wh8zt I use both calibrated knock sensors and pressure transducers when I am tuning ultra HP stuff, or things that are very very expensive. For lower HP common stuff reading plugs and using a loaded dyno work just fine.
      But 28 degrees is ONLY realitive to the head, bore, compression and camshaft being used.
      EXAMPLE: I have had an engine come to me that was at 32 degrees total advance by the previous tuner. However that engine made peak HP at just 24 degress with no detonation. Then under ultra high heat/load situations it actually needed 21
      Needless to say, that 32 was excessive, and uncalled for. And why the engines life previously was only a matter of months. The current engines have now lasted 4 years and counting

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez Před rokem +4

    One of your best engine build and explanation videos, ever. Long live the SBC.

  • @macthemec
    @macthemec Před rokem +10

    Damn, that torque curve! I learn a lot from these videos and i’ve been around engine builds for 20+ years

  • @Trikekid84
    @Trikekid84 Před rokem +9

    Let's do a parking lot build and one dyno pull, then rebuild the entire engine for one video. Stay tuned for next week when we freshen up a Ford 300 i6 using a whole new everything.

  • @brianross4057
    @brianross4057 Před rokem +9

    And for a little more money thrown at the rotating assy to stretch to 383 it would have been a huge gain in HP & Torque.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před rokem +1

      The horsepower wouldn't be a whole lot more, but the torque gain would be better

  • @BIGGIEDEVIL
    @BIGGIEDEVIL Před rokem +2

    Ive learned so much from these shows over the last 15 years its incredible and ive never built or worked on an engine unless its spark plugs or oil change, keep up the awesome shows and keep it simple like you do makes watching so much easier and a pleasure to do so

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 Před rokem +2

    i can still remember building my first engine and how i felt the first time i heard it startup and run. i bet if u look close, u can still see the wrinkles on my face i made from smiling so much.. lol

  • @Bacongrease00
    @Bacongrease00 Před rokem +5

    A good follow up would be to
    Run 100 octane and throw timing back into to see how much was left on the table

    • @mikewillett5076
      @mikewillett5076 Před rokem +3

      Yeah. I thought the power wasn't too impressive, as even 9:1 350s with similar cam and heads have made even more power. Then reminded myself that they only had 22° of total timing in it.

  • @I_like_turtles_67
    @I_like_turtles_67 Před rokem +17

    Pro tip.
    If you need to remove the heads off an old junkyard motor. You're going be rebuilding anyways. Leave the valvtrain untouched and start unbolting the heads. The spring pressure will help lift/separate the heads from the block.
    You most likely won't even need to you a wedge to get the heads separated at that point.

    • @timmensch3601
      @timmensch3601 Před rokem +5

      you never have even worked on a engine before the valve springs will not help the head come off lol

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 Před rokem +9

      @@timmensch3601 I take it you've never tried this with a pushrod motor.
      It works lol.

    • @jhutch1470
      @jhutch1470 Před rokem +10

      @@timmensch3601 The valve springs leave tension on the pushrods. That helps lift the heads.

    • @scottm7341
      @scottm7341 Před rokem +3

      @@timmensch3601 Commentor fail. With the valvetrain still in, some valves will be held open by the cam and pushrods, resulting in the springs helping to lift the heads off the block when the head bolts are removed.

    • @Rzazigzag
      @Rzazigzag Před rokem

      @@timmensch3601 haha- I bet you’re single.

  • @bluedemon79
    @bluedemon79 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Love these guys! Another one in the books! Very good info. Im building a 12.1 to 1 compression pump gas 572 BBC. Gonna put it in my C10 for bracket racing.

    • @patgraeme775
      @patgraeme775 Před 3 měsíci

      Hopefully it makes more than 1hp per c.i, like this sbc

  • @killsalltires156
    @killsalltires156 Před rokem +3

    Badass!! Anything over 12:1 on pump gas 94 octane is badass!!

  • @stevegarrett4869
    @stevegarrett4869 Před rokem +6

    Makes great torque down low and doesn’t need to rev to the moon. Would feel great on the street, probably feel about like a big block when you put your foot in it

  • @montycrain5783
    @montycrain5783 Před rokem +6

    The Mouse is a very compact motor and much better looking than a LS.

    • @luislourenco2915
      @luislourenco2915 Před rokem

      I agree im 58 and have always had a 350 chevy in my life

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před rokem

      I dont give a hoot what the engine could look like, it's what it can DO that interests me. 🤷🏻

  • @FSHSKainon
    @FSHSKainon Před rokem +5

    the Kid seems to be fitting in awesomely!!
    Love the show, love what ya cover

  • @erenzoscroggins8056
    @erenzoscroggins8056 Před rokem +1

    The Og Pat done lost weight looking like he's in the gym baby i see you💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @taylorporter4167
    @taylorporter4167 Před rokem +21

    I made 431hp and 430 torque out of a true 350 ci sbc with a set of port by me iron eagles and a Howard cams hydraulic roller cam with a 10-1 static compression ratio I honestly expected more

    • @bevinsracing
      @bevinsracing Před rokem +1

      What cam and intake? What's duration at .050

    • @josephupholstery1416
      @josephupholstery1416 Před rokem

      That’s still impressive

    • @hanzgrueber145
      @hanzgrueber145 Před rokem

      Sounds like a lot of work. I had someone hook up a computer to my car and it made +50hp +80lb ft, gotta love factory turbocharged engines

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 Před rokem

      Naw man, 430 from 10:1 running a hydraulic is great.

    • @billywilliams6853
      @billywilliams6853 Před rokem +2

      @@grandmasmalibu
      Need E-85 fuel ⛽

  • @nivesknight
    @nivesknight Před rokem +1

    Ran the same a similar set up in a different engine on 87 and had no issues with it ever. In a daily driver so yea 25000 miles a year. Drove it 4 years before before I checked everything and did gaskets and a little cleaning and that was it.

  • @johnnikollaj496
    @johnnikollaj496 Před rokem +10

    Honestly I appreciate builds like this.
    What If honestly love to see more builds with stock heads and porting vs aftermarket this and that.

    • @bradenkowal8117
      @bradenkowal8117 Před rokem +1

      They have done that before youd have to look back

    • @johnnikollaj496
      @johnnikollaj496 Před rokem

      @@bradenkowal8117
      I know but its far and few in between.

    • @myid9876543
      @myid9876543 Před rokem

      I feel like most people are using stock heads

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead Před rokem

      @@myid9876543 the poors..lol i just spent $2,599 on 38cc TrickFlow heads n $700 on stage 3 MHS TFS cams for my 2v, next is a 3k stall converter n gonna have a fun P71 to smoke all them imports n domestics who want to run me on the street..

    • @Cultofpersonality09129
      @Cultofpersonality09129 Před rokem +2

      Waste of time.

  • @nerbon7164
    @nerbon7164 Před rokem +3

    Sure for the build and understanding static and dynamic compression on 93 pump gas with a efi kit. It's a good test. BUT to any person off the street they would just laugh at you 13 to 1 412hp on the engine dyno. Put it in the car it makes 340-355hp to the wheels.

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 Před rokem

      depends. if its in a 240z well that thing only weighs 2500 maybe

    • @BigUnk85
      @BigUnk85 Před rokem

      @@KingJT80 yeah and then some guy with a 6.0 ls in a foxbody blows you away at the traffic light 😄😄😄

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 Před rokem

      @@BigUnk85 depends on what's done to the 6.0.

  • @peggyparrow2059
    @peggyparrow2059 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The clearance is usually built into the piston, in other words, if they need 3 thou. Measure the pistons so you dont make the bores to big. We usually go 1 thou. More in case the engine gets to hot. Saves scoreing on pistons or cylinders

  • @Bbbbad724
    @Bbbbad724 Před 11 měsíci

    I really loved the Ford FE builds they did with the Trick Flow heads, the Track Heat single with the carb and the dual 445 with a bigger cam and a 2/ 4V Fitech injection that was really strong!

  • @Mike_Atwell
    @Mike_Atwell Před rokem

    First car I bought myself was a 75 Duster. Loved that car

  • @stephenlove8067
    @stephenlove8067 Před rokem +1

    Great episode. You guys hit on so many important topics.

  • @user-vl8sw7kg7y
    @user-vl8sw7kg7y Před 7 měsíci +1

    Love that one camshaft, one chain

    • @peterdarr383
      @peterdarr383 Před 2 měsíci

      And zero sensors or computers. Just 1 ignition module that most likely won't go bad.

  • @brentonk461
    @brentonk461 Před rokem +7

    327 2bolt main block, small block Chevy, stock GM rods,, cast pistons, 23° heads, 14:1 compression, pump fuel, 7500rpm, street driveable, drive it to the shops, drive it to the track, drive it home.

    • @matiasdamian8106
      @matiasdamian8106 Před rokem

      So what would be the Dynamic compression in that engine if it has a theoretical static comp of 14:1 as you said?

    • @brentonk461
      @brentonk461 Před rokem

      @@matiasdamian8106 actual.measured compression mate, and I'm not willing to disclose that information."be happy to build you an Engine for you though.

    • @ciggsnstrings
      @ciggsnstrings Před rokem +1

      You would have to have a huge dome 13cc+ with less than 60cc chamber to get 14:1 out of a little 3.25 stroke 327 flame travel would be horrible.

    • @matiasdamian8106
      @matiasdamian8106 Před rokem +1

      @@ciggsnstrings yeah right? That compression is so high. Btw, did u understand the question i ask to this guy? Idk if he thought that i was hating his engine or saying things against it idk, what i asked is that the guys of powernation said the static comp on the 350 was 13:1 but the dynamic was 9.1:1, so i asked as Brenton said the engine was 14:1 i assumed he meant the STATIC compression was 14:1, not the dynamic

    • @rodneygodin7773
      @rodneygodin7773 Před rokem +1

      Counter productive, I’ve got 10. To 1 dynamic on a 302 ford, love eaten shevys, and I’ll govern the engine to 6000rpm

  • @hugieflhr03
    @hugieflhr03 Před rokem +1

    This was an awesome video! I wish you were still on TV on the weekends.

  • @jean-phillipegagnon2120
    @jean-phillipegagnon2120 Před rokem +1

    The young man is learning well love it 👌

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Před rokem

    Same here people, for years and through different, names, people, times, etc. This was a great staple to watch to start the day and then do some work on something, but as with everything else it is getting to be all about the money 💰 and what you want to spend to watch a show or movie on TV. Used to be able to get a great choice of channels and shows on regular TV. Now he it to pay extra , buy packages, and upgrade everything just to get a couple of channels and movies. Sad part is people can't wait until it comes out, so they pay hundreds of dollars every month to get the latest, greatest, and new releases. Just like everything else people will just pay it or do whatever is necessary to get or see something on TV. The more they take and choose for you the more they make. Great Labor Day weekend to you all and I hope that you are able to enjoy your weekend.

  • @786theresonly1GOD
    @786theresonly1GOD Před rokem +1

    Love the channel and videos I appreciate them keep up the great work

  • @SGTJDerek
    @SGTJDerek Před rokem

    🤦thanks a lot guys. Putting ANOTHER recipe in my head. Or maybe just adding in the filling.

  • @lencac7952
    @lencac7952 Před rokem

    I rebuilt a DZ small block in the bathtub of an apartment I lived at when I was going to Denver Automotive and Diesel College back in 19 and 72 (-:

  • @robertminato2706
    @robertminato2706 Před rokem +2

    Love watching frankie and pat work together
    always informative . Who has more pens ?

  • @bradleyborrowman2115
    @bradleyborrowman2115 Před rokem +1

    Heck yeah!
    Also, pat that can toss got me good 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @peggyparrow2059
    @peggyparrow2059 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You should grind the top of the center oil gallery, because some of the double roller timing sets will contact it and rub some metal into the oil and may cause bearing failure !

  • @jamesbehrick9588
    @jamesbehrick9588 Před rokem

    Great Episode!! More like this!!!

  • @christianfrendocumbo9168
    @christianfrendocumbo9168 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you so much I made my engine thanks to you 🙏

  • @jamesingram4649
    @jamesingram4649 Před rokem +1

    They should try a solid roller with a 108 LSA that will bleed off low speed compression and help with high speed scavenging with good header and collector shape and length.

  • @billwheelerman1359
    @billwheelerman1359 Před rokem +2

    Great entertainment with 22 degrees of timing. EGT's are probably through the roof. Let's see how she runs on Race Fuel.

    • @TheRoadhammer379
      @TheRoadhammer379 Před rokem

      EGTs are moot in a gas engine, this is not a diesel engine

    • @johnmgriffin3060
      @johnmgriffin3060 Před rokem

      @@TheRoadhammer379 With 22 degrees total timing, this thing will overheat the first time you approach a hill (and this would be shown in stupid high EGT's).
      Installing the cam straight up (ie, evenly split overlap) plus a set of heads with correct combustion chamber volume (cc's) and correct ignition timing (eg 36 - 40 degrees) would net a much more powerful and driveable small block.

  • @swamprock1
    @swamprock1 Před rokem +3

    The longer Frankie hangs out with Pat, the more pocket tools he acquires...

  • @jeffevans1534
    @jeffevans1534 Před rokem +5

    You guys need to do up a 418 inch windsor Faux 289 HiPo build. Use the K-code air-cleaner exhaust-manifolds and valve covers, use a 5.8 roller block and use GT40P heads with a little hand work and valve upgrades, and use a Summit F303+ camshaft installed straight up. I know a lot of first generation Mustang owners would dig that kind of original appearance built high performance engine 😁

  • @chriswilson433
    @chriswilson433 Před rokem

    I am watching this again and I see Frankie is adopting Pat’s pocket-full-of-pens.

  • @Nasty72C10
    @Nasty72C10 Před rokem

    i don't go by application for spark plugs because sometimes if not all the time your stuck with a smaller amount of options , i just go by thread pitch and reach which can give you more options. i had that problem with my sportster high cube stroker motor and i needed a cold plug , just going by the application i had basically no good options but by going with thread pitch and reach i had many many more and now it runs happily on ngk r2525-10 or -9 and i dont foul them even running on the street

  • @lanegeisewite1436
    @lanegeisewite1436 Před rokem

    Chevy Powaaa! Nothing better!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪💪

  • @rikiwakwak
    @rikiwakwak Před rokem

    I put a turtle shell on the back of a frogs hind end, but i couldnt take him nowhere. The concept was about as handy.

  • @KompressorPete
    @KompressorPete Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing on the compression subject.
    So I guess the high CR’s also makes it more fuel effecient and gives it better throttle response?
    You two are awsome 😃😃🙏🙏🤘🤘👍👍

  • @justinballard7242
    @justinballard7242 Před rokem +2

    I love how they're commenting on how nice it is and how nice it ran. Guys it had a few dyno pulls on it I hope the crosshatch looks good I hope the pistons look good etc

  • @straighttimestirrups
    @straighttimestirrups Před rokem +4

    Should’ve dumped in some race fuel and timing for a nice Street vs Strip comparison!

    • @xxserbkingxx6289
      @xxserbkingxx6289 Před rokem

      I agree. Would be nice to see the difference for us poor folks who wanna run pump gas 95% of the time, and for the 5% of the time were at the 1/4 we can let her eat!

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz Před rokem +1

    For the c.i. the LSA is too wide, because it is a pump gas engine the cam was ground that way to be able to use the pump gas. For a 355 or 358 c.i. with a 2.10" intake valve (the heads that suit this compression) you would need a 107* LCA and then base your LSA from that if you want it ground in advanced a certain amount or whatever. Valve events need to be within a degree for best results, of course you could make more heat especially with more head and intake packing the cylinders with 13:1 and timing events being spot on, could create the need for more octane, however it also may not depending on duration and how relaxed the valve action is. Go ahead and drop that LSA on that cam and get more torque and hp. Go ahead and slap on an edelbrock Super Victor II on there with a brodix 221cc head. Use a large XR comp cam as a base then tighten up that LSA. You won't be sorry.

    • @travisartis5141
      @travisartis5141 Před 7 měsíci

      Agreed I wished they had used between 106° - 110°

  • @jimdrechsel3611
    @jimdrechsel3611 Před rokem +2

    A lot of information that I was able to hear with very well expressed details. What sealant is used for the valve covers, intake, oil pan etc. Sealants I have used don’t seem to last.
    Maybe I would have mentioned making sure that the block and rods are honed if you change to ARP bolts since backyard mechanics might make the mistake of just switching without the added step. Great job. Thank you

    • @earlbrown
      @earlbrown Před rokem

      look into Yamabond4 and Yamabond5 for your sealing needs. That's all I use in 99% of my engine work when I need to seal something.

    • @jimdrechsel3611
      @jimdrechsel3611 Před rokem

      @@earlbrown thank you

  • @chuckycheeeese
    @chuckycheeeese Před rokem

    Great video, I like your professional approach and great timing tips. Please be more attentive to your safety and build a fan shroud to be safe

  • @1969darr
    @1969darr Před 6 měsíci

    enjoyed the video
    chevy 383 made 500HP NA engine on 92oct -w- Accel super coil and tri y headers 292 cam and secret heads

  • @eaglethehulk8539
    @eaglethehulk8539 Před rokem +1

    Man, Pat seems to be reversing in age. Dude looks better now than he did 10 years ago.

  • @lewisdeclouette6342
    @lewisdeclouette6342 Před rokem

    Man I love this show

  • @Cultofpersonality09129
    @Cultofpersonality09129 Před rokem +14

    So for $5K you can get the same amount of power as a $500 5.3 LS with a cam.

    • @hankclingingsmith8707
      @hankclingingsmith8707 Před rokem +2

      Go spe ND 500 and show us

    • @pear586
      @pear586 Před rokem

      @@hankclingingsmith8707 i was also wondering where he’d get and LS for $500…

    • @Cultofpersonality09129
      @Cultofpersonality09129 Před měsícem

      @@pear586if you can’t find a 5.3 Gen 3 for $500 there’s something wrong.

    • @Cultofpersonality09129
      @Cultofpersonality09129 Před měsícem

      @@hankclingingsmith8707Richard Holdner has done it 500 times on his channel hanky. You can’t find a Gen 3 5.3 for $500 at a scrap yard?? E-Thugging has got the best of ya lil Hank!

    • @hankclingingsmith8707
      @hankclingingsmith8707 Před měsícem

      5 years ago 500 in the Midwest. NOW 12 to 1700 running. Not a junk. You prove it. Holders videos are years old. Today prove your worth and do it. Reality. Anybody can move their lips like a prostitute

  • @copisetic1104
    @copisetic1104 Před rokem

    Dynamic compression works for low reving engines, when you start running higher rpm then volumetric efficiency kicks in when you are getting way above 100% cylinder filling you have to watch ignition timing and dynamic compression and fuel octane. Example, very efficient engines that run above 10,000 rpm can have dynamic compression that will cause detonation.

  • @mrmrwilem4789
    @mrmrwilem4789 Před rokem

    No obligatory Rick riffs! Thanks guys 😊

  • @damon123jones
    @damon123jones Před rokem

    Good to see you sweating and getting dirty much respect

  • @ZedTee77
    @ZedTee77 Před rokem +2

    I would love to see that high comp 350 run on race gas, e85 and methanol to show what it will do with compression and race fuels 👍

    • @brucearterbury1856
      @brucearterbury1856 Před rokem

      How about using a duel fuel E-85 to warm up on then switch on the propane to keep those expensive parts clean!

  • @srirachasauce8430
    @srirachasauce8430 Před rokem +5

    If you want quirky, try the 80's 2.2L/2.5L Turbo Mopar. It'd be cool to see what older tuner engines can do.

    • @Ian_Mag
      @Ian_Mag Před rokem

      That’d be cool. Variety is the spice of life! I’m all in for something (or anything) different then a typical small or big block V8. 😎

    • @GreatLakesLogger
      @GreatLakesLogger Před rokem +4

      check out Richard holdener for 2.2 videos

    • @SGTJDerek
      @SGTJDerek Před rokem

      @@Ian_Mag IMO, the biggest reason to stay with the small block V8s, especially the SBC, is money. Parts are cheap and plentiful. I would love to see a serious Oddball. A 2.8 GM V6. GM did use them in their racing programs back in the day but you can bet the parts would be unobtainium and not a lot shared with other engines. At least the 4.3 shares with the SBC.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před rokem

      Those things were garbage... 🗑

    • @srirachasauce8430
      @srirachasauce8430 Před rokem

      @@davelowets They can be. Old tech has its limitations. Although, with the right setup, it'll hurt feelings on a daily basis.

  • @Op1zilla
    @Op1zilla Před rokem +1

    Wake an bake, y'all had me mesmerized 🤣, ggz-🚲💥💨🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴

  • @number40Fan
    @number40Fan Před rokem +6

    @7:44, the intake gaskets are put on backwards. The block-offs should be on the back side. Surprised it didn't overheat on the dyno.

  • @SigmaWolf-in2mr
    @SigmaWolf-in2mr Před rokem

    Excellent tunage fellas.

  • @gordowg1wg145
    @gordowg1wg145 Před rokem +1

    4:20 - 👍 for getting that right! 😊
    18:20 -ish, with high compression pistons and/or heavy head/deck cuts it's important to check for piston to sparkplug clearance - if it's close it could just be a slightly closed up gap but if it's bad it could damage the piston, or worse.
    29:45 - close but not quite - you have to figure in the angle of the crank journal and connecting rod length as the piston position is governed by them - it isn't anything like the sinusoidal curve a simple crank angle would suggest.
    Very good power and torque numbers - what was the BSFC, i would expect that to be a little better than average, and for a street car it should give good cruising MPG, too, which is getting important with prices as they are?

    • @Dane33781
      @Dane33781 Před rokem

      I would love to know the BSFC.

  • @HOTRODINATOR
    @HOTRODINATOR Před rokem

    Keep doin what you do

  • @taisontaison4118
    @taisontaison4118 Před rokem

    I remember my first car, a 1971 chevy impala. It had a sticker right on the air cleaner that said 245 hp. When I look back at some of the cars I have owned and got rid of I could kick myself. A 1974 Plymouth cuda. 1967 Pontiac firebird. Etc. My friend used to like mopar, he had several super "B"s a charger, etc. I also knew a guy that had s 1969 camaro he said that it only had a 327 in it, but I always wondered how it pulled thr front tires up so far, lol.

  • @shanecloyd6646
    @shanecloyd6646 Před rokem +1

    Could you put a 400 crank, just to see if horsepower would stay the same, or improve. On that 360 Chevy, doing the smaller cam, and then the larger cam??

  • @alessandroghizzo972
    @alessandroghizzo972 Před rokem

    Really good video 👍

  • @SStudiopro
    @SStudiopro Před 2 měsíci

    It’s not a place you look at paintings, so it’s oil galley not gallery. I was building race engines back in the 60’s . Also, it’s not pound feet it’s foot pound. Rookies

  • @richardhaubach5043
    @richardhaubach5043 Před rokem

    I like how the intake gasket was on backwards and had the wrong Spark plugs as well.

  • @edmahonejr.9364
    @edmahonejr.9364 Před rokem +1

    You gotta make a video using some VP racing gas in That small block Chevy with those 13 to one pistons

  • @chrisreynolds6520
    @chrisreynolds6520 Před rokem

    The 383 I tow with in my Express van is 11:1.

  • @stellingbanjodude
    @stellingbanjodude Před rokem +1

    I’ll never understand when doing a complete engine rebuild, why don’t these guys install the cam first? It’s what I always do and it makes installing the cam so much easier.

  • @blakehouse172
    @blakehouse172 Před rokem

    Really fun build to watch would be a turbo iron duke!

  • @super_sayangoku2074
    @super_sayangoku2074 Před rokem +11

    love the video, I would love to see more V6 builds, like maybe a magnum V6 from Dodge, or a 4.0 ohv or sohc from Ford.

    • @LimitedGunnerGM
      @LimitedGunnerGM Před rokem +6

      Atlas 4200!

    • @theeoddments960
      @theeoddments960 Před rokem +2

      Absolutely not lmao

    • @Ian_Mag
      @Ian_Mag Před rokem +1

      Heck ya! Something different the. A typical small (or big) block V8! Variety is the spice of life! That being said I love the videos here!!

    • @HioSSilver1999
      @HioSSilver1999 Před rokem +3

      No one is gonna build a magnum v6....they were super turds

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 17 dny

      You mean engines with no aftermarket parts that hot rodders dont want?

  • @blkmontecarlo
    @blkmontecarlo Před rokem

    Great job.

  • @benrittenhousedotcom
    @benrittenhousedotcom Před rokem +10

    Great episode. Would be interesting to see EGTs. And what putting it on E85 and more timing would do!

    • @billywilliams6853
      @billywilliams6853 Před rokem +1

      I was thinking about this also.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před rokem

      Switching to E-85 on an N/A engine doesn't do a whole lot for power production. You will see a little more torque, but that's about all.
      Now, E-85 on a boosted engine compared to gasoline, Hold ON....

    • @brucearterbury1856
      @brucearterbury1856 Před rokem

      How about using a duel fuel E-85 to warm up on then switch on the propane to keep those expensive parts clean!

  • @courtcoleman2222
    @courtcoleman2222 Před rokem

    Love this show and have for years.
    Let's see it with that bigger camshaft next.
    Biggers always better right...

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před rokem

      No

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 17 dny

      @@davelowets Agree...that things too big for the most part. With 2o somethign deg of timing...Instapig!

  • @_..-.._..-.._
    @_..-.._..-.._ Před 11 měsíci +2

    I always wondered why they degree a cam when it’s a drop-in and the timing set is not adjustable?

  • @bigal878
    @bigal878 Před rokem +2

    Great video. Give it some more timing and higher octane fuel please. 👍🏻🇦🇺

  • @AandWProductions
    @AandWProductions Před rokem +4

    Be nice to see them do a Gen 2 LT1 instead of an Gen 1 350 or LS. You can run 13.5:1 all day long with pump gas. I'll even donate the block if I can have it back when you're done. Or go really creative and find a LT5. See what you guys can do with that.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Před rokem

      Sure, you can if you want to give up a bunch of power.
      Hell, I could run 15:1 on pump gas, but a properly cammed 10:1 motor would walk right by it.

    • @brucearterbury1856
      @brucearterbury1856 Před rokem

      I’m hearing that! I have a 96 Impala SS. So my LT1 has cast iron heads. I think it’s important to keep it numbers matching since I’m the original owner.

  • @GMC4240
    @GMC4240 Před rokem +1

    Dyno results could have been comparable with a fraction of the price for budget builder if you guys started with a stock 880 Vortec headed 350. Threw in ARP hardware and an aftermarket camshaft

  • @mewrongway
    @mewrongway Před rokem +3

    Damn lol, My 300.00 Stock 4.8L makes 28hp more! What happened?

  • @jsimsgt96
    @jsimsgt96 Před rokem

    Pat has 2 shirt pockets to remind everyone who runs this ship 💪🇺🇸

  • @Crysmatic
    @Crysmatic Před rokem +1

    would like to have seen you optimize timing. no sense in running high compression ratio if you give up a ton of power with low timing. I would expect close to 500 bhp on this combo.

  • @sethmiller9442
    @sethmiller9442 Před rokem

    Now heres your next episode with this engine. Install the bigger cam and dial it in advanced enough to get the exact same dynamic compression and retest. Then install flat top pistons and advance each cam enough to get the exact same dynamic compression but with less static compression and advanced cam timing so we can see how each way of getting the same dynamic compressions effects power output.