Gunfights The Indie (Safe) Way
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- čas přidán 15. 03. 2022
- There is no need for real guns on a movie set, and we're gonna prove to you why. Join us as we demonstrate practical filmmaking techniques of making realistic gun scenes with models, replicas, interactive lighting and muzzle flashes!
Shout-out to our good friends at Cinewest for helping us out on this video by letting us borrow some of their amazing kit for this shoot; please go and check them out if you're interest in equipment hire! - cine-west.com/
EQUIPMENT USED IN THIS VIDEO:
Cobra 18R2 Controller:
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Cobra 6M SPFX Module:
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Kessler Cineshooter:
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Cameras/Accs:
Sony Venice:
Kowa anamorphics:
Tilta Nucleus-M follow focus:
Cobra Remote Firing System:
BMPCC 6K Pocket Cinema:
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BMPCC 4K Pocket Cinema:
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TILTA Tactical Cage:
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Miller 3001 Tripod:
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Canon 24-105mm EF Lens:
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Samyang 35mm EF:
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SmallHD Monitor:
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IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK! We hope you enjoy this, a lot of time and effort went into it and hopefully we've proven why real guns aren't needed on movie sets! Please if you did enjoy the video leave a comment and a like as it helps us out loads! Thanks y'all!
Seeing you two standing side by side talking reminded me of those amusing ads from years ago...
*"HI, I'm a Mac...and I'm a PC!"*
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@@mbgrafix hahaha
If you haven't already I would love to see you guys have a chat with Corridor Crew. They have had a few videos about enhancing gun fights. I'm sure you would have a lot to talk about blending practical with vfx.
We'd love to, got a lot of respect for Corridor Crew and the work they do. One day hopefully, our paths will cross. (P)
a crossover event involving both teams? that'd make a studio executive nervous. i like it.
@@InCameraTV that would be fantastic
@@blendpinexus1416a creator's fantasy
Okay, I finished it. I assume this is in response to a specific thing that happened recently. These folks are too classy to discuss that specific incident or even _mention_ it anywhere in the video. Since they don't mention it by name, I won't either. Instead, I'll say I love how you guys handled this. You're just filmmakers showing how _you_ stay safe on set, how easy it is, and how _great_ it can look. That's it. It's really respectful and classy. And I learned so much from this. Thanks for putting so much effort into it. If I weren't on a fixed income, I'd hop on Patreon but you'll have to settle for me sharing the video. lol. Awesome video, as always. Cheers, y'all.
The box of tricks is safe!
Bless you for the kind words and huge thanks for sharing ❤️
Everybody in the industry should be aware of the situation that made this relevant. In my opinion, with today's visual effects, there has not been a good reason for having live ammunition - and that includes blanks - and a functioning firearm anywhere near a film set for at least a decade.
@@daniel_wilkinson I think it comes down to the movie being made. For example, it isn't as easy to replicate the large bursts of smoke you see black powder cartridges in a western film. It is not as simple as adding a flash to a single frame in After Effects. Blanks can also add a lot of authenticity, which can be very important to films that need to be grounded in reality, such as a war film. That being said, real firearms should only be used if you have qualified professionals on set. Film armorers have been around since the dawn of movie making, and I don't think guns as a whole should be banned because of a knee-jerk reaction. If anything, there should be stricter and more uniform standards for who can be an armorer.
@@johnlynch2492 Agreed, take my like
Now this is what I'm talking about, I miss this kinda tutorials and vibes from yt. Thank you guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@InCameraTV always a pleasure!
Very nice!! One thing I think could be added is, that prop guns cannot be easily identified by people walking by. There have been accidents where amateur moviemakers have filmed with prop guns outside and haven't informed the police beforehand. That may lead to very bad situations. As I said, people from the outside might not know that these are prop guns.
What a great episode! So wonderful to have you back!!
Quite right! We did go through safety procedures etc when we shot this but the edit was so long! Figured we'd try to just keep it about the guns/FX specifically.
Thanks for pointing it out for us! 👍
Great techniques. Here are some we used in our John Wooyesque productions.
1. Airsoftrevolvers with shells. Like the Umarex replica of the enfield/webley revolver that run on co2. We put a small bit of talkum powder in each shell and when fired they give a great puff, that can be enhanced using a CG muzzleflash.
2. Another talkum powder trick we used was in a electric blowback mp5 with a silencer. Here we stuffed some powder in the otherwise empty silencer . Gives great full auto puffs when fired.
Dont forget to clean your airsoft afterwards by the way.
great tricks! thanks for sharing
I was just visiting from Tom Scott, I really enjoyed this, very informative, reasonably easy to understand and fun! I must admit though, from the title I'd envisioned obviously toy guns/water pistols... that would've been surreal and funny.
YES! I know it's gotta be tough to make these and watch the algorithm treat you like crap for long gaps between videos... but I promise we love this shit and I think the time spent making them is totally worth it! Excited to see whatever you got next!
so brilliant! as a VFX artist currently working on putting in dozens of muzzle flashes for the 500th crime TV show... i sure wish they filmed it like you guys. i'd have a lot less shell ejections and smoke notes! i love learning more about these SFX coming to life. your channel is such a treat.
Love the Spike Spiegel bit. And yes, there is something about the post-production adding of a muzzle flash that can seem off. Especially when not done well. Great informative video overall.
The shoot had a very Cowboy Bebop meets Spaced feel to it. I was feeling the CB even before you appeared in Spike cosplay! I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again. You guys need to get on the “Artists react” couch with Corridor Digital.
It's funny you say that considering they're two of Tommy & Pete's favourite shows!
This is a great video and gives some food for thought. Being an Australian prop maker, I collect and supply to indie films, toy and model guns. With a little work and paint they look great on screen, and avoid lots of legal hassles.
I'd really like to see some Django: Unchained style blood splatter.
We've got a blood splatter episode in the works, don't you worry 👀
@@InCameraTV Awesome.
OMG YES!!
Spike was the perfect cosplay
It already felt like an episode of BeBop just with the Glock
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for providing an array of safe and efficient solutions!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Alice, glad you enjoyed the video!
Nice to have you back Spike...
I'm sorry. I know the rule is: finish the video before commenting but I couldn't. That intro was *so good!* I forgot I was watching CZcams! Well done, guys. And I'm assuming it was all done without any real guns...? Okay, I know, finish the video. I'm going. So good!
Really glad you liked it! We always love when we can get creative and put some nice cinematic sequences in our videos! And yes, all done without any real guns!
@@InCameraTV Now I feel silly. You say it's not real in the title and thumbnail. I didn't look at either. I got the notification of the new video and went straight to it.
the intro was 10 times better than most indie action scenes and if i didnt know better could of been an action scene of netflix! thanks for sharing as always
You're too kind. It was a LOT of fun to make!
Perfect video! Thank you to everyone involved for always dropping amazing content.
i'm getting a real john wick meets Shaun of the dead energy here and i love it!
Well done guys. Perfectly explained and demonstrated.
The next action hero. From Cyprus
An important video which accomplishes everything it sets out to achieve. Well done, InCamera team!
You're BACK! YAY!!!
I have used airsoft pistols in my own little productions, also with the modified magazine that allows dry firing. Flying shell casings and muzzle flashes and sound effects were never a problem to add in post, but we could never get the reactive lighting quite right. Wish I had known about slow LED strobes! I think they would have done the trick.
BTW, one nice feature of gas blowback airsoft guns is that the slides can move slower than on real ones. Real semi-autos give you a blurry slide movement for one frame, while the particular airsofts we used can produce 2-3 frames of visible movement. This produced a nice, readable action on screen.
the camera shots, color grading etc phenomenon ...dude teach me
love the bebop references, i was thinking the action was like it, and then you come out in the costume!
😁
Absolutely brilliant work. I love the straightforward lecture-style presentation of the information.
Thanks Derek, glad you liked the video!
I can’t believe I haven’t seen this channel all my life. It’s crazy how you guys make practicals effects
Amazing content as always, glad you guys are back!
TomScott thank you, you guys are so cool 🤘
loved it i sick of cgi and vfx practical things are just so awesome
14:50 "NOW SHE WORKS" except it stovepiped lol
Holy smoking replica boom sticks! You win the internet with this one bro’s. Gold star stickers for everyone! 🤘💯
FANTASTIC
Great work guys 👏😎
So glad you took your time with this. It turned out amazing!
Thank you!
Nothing sells the energy of a great gunfight quite like the practicle approach. Brilliant showcase guys! Another small detail i would add in combination with the strobe light, is getting the actor occasionally blinking when they fire, it Could add that extra edge to the chaos..of course, depends on what your going for. 👍
What a great to vid kick off my weekend. Thank you, gentlemen.
You guys are Doing Gods Work!
Thank you so much!!!🎉
😇
Thanks For This, it Greatly Helped
Another fab video guys, great job 😊
I have a lot of friends who work in theatre and I'm always sending them your videos to see if they can be applied to the stage. I think effects like these would look great in a live show!
Definitely!
Awesome! worth the wait
This is amazing! Wish I could do this stuff.
Glad to have you back, really enjoyed the video. I'm quite surprised that a propmaker with a Hollywood budget hasn't crafted a firearm along the lines of what you we're envisaging. It seems like a no brainer, as far as achieving a sense of realism goes while maintaining safety on set.
The Photographer, aka Stillman, aka Snapper, aka Flash, makes for a convincing baddie.
This video is so interesting; especially seeing the "after" shot before all of the explanation.
Thanks some great tips there, super cool as always.
I love you guys' stuff so much! I would be so cool that now when you've made videos about gunfire and bullet hits the next thing you do is about blood squibs. I really wanna see that!
That frosted glass scene was amazing! \o/
Thanks!
I knew I wouldn't be disappointed. Great video. Stay safe!
Where did you get the shotgun? Like what do I look up?
Simply outstanding!😂😂😂👍👍👍💥
Such an underrated channel.
I’m soooooo glad y’all are back I saw the trailer and counted the hours till the video dropped
hope it was worth the wait!
@@InCameraTV for sure
Wow this is cool as content! Just found you guys through your collab with Tom Scott and now Im hooked!
I love your content and this video. Great stuff.
I do have one MAJOR recommendation though. You had a great opportunity to really hammer this home in the video, especially through your actions.
You must treat all guns, BB, toys, or actual firearms as if they are all the same. You must follow the 6 simple rules at all times. #1 rule in gun safety is to act like every gun is loaded all the time, even if you personally unloaded and checked it multiple times. #2 rule is never put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to fire in a safe direction. #3 rule is to keep the gun pointed in a safe direction at all times - don't point at anything you don't intend to destroy. #4 rule is to know your target and what is beyond your target. #5 any projectile that leaves the barrel of the gun while in your control is your complete and total responsibility (be it a bullet, a bb, or a nerf dart). #6 rule is the first 5 rules are always the most important at all times when around or handling any type of firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun, toy, or prop).
I mention this because, particularly in the last few minutes, you had the BB gun in your hand gesturing, finger on the trigger, and pointing it all over the place. I understand that it's a BB gun and that it probably wasn't loaded, but that is irrelevant. Finger discipline (finger off the trigger until ready to fire) and pointed in a safe direction are critical to avoid catastrophic incidents. BB guns have caused more injuries than are ever reported including total loss of eyes.
Before all the critics chime in and say that I'm overreacting since it was for a film, it doesn't matter. Until the cameras are rolling, when you actually have to point the gun and put your finger on the trigger, you follow the rules. Yes, this may seem crazy, but even with something as harmless as a nerf gun! If you practice these safety rules all the time, everywhere, in every situation, the likelihood of an incident occurring is removed. Remember, anything that happens from a gun that was unintended is negligence. It's not an accident. There is no just thing as an accidental discharge of a firearm. It is a negligent discharge because the person with the firearm was not doing something correctly.
Aside from that - keep up the great content!
You're absolutely right!
Trigger discipline is not something many know about in the UK, perhaps because we don't have 'real' firearms generally available here.
The BB gun was indeed not loaded with BBs or a Co2 cannister.
But rest assured Tommy has received a severe wrist slapping.
And thanks for posting those rules! 👍
YOU GUYS ARE SMASHING IT!!! LOVE THE NEW WORK
Drew! Thanks man, hope ya well
Fantastic costume of Spike!
I had a double take when I first saw it, and thought for a second you wore it throughout the whole thing without me noticing. Your knowing wink/nod made me laugh out loud!
There is a Richard Coyle / David Tennant vibe to your face! That makes you the Ultimate Brit hero in my book!
Finally got to finish the vid! After I think at least a year of watching you guys I finally folded. Patreon Tier 1. It's late at night and I didn't think I'd stay awake this long but somehow those two film FX nerds talking at a table had me hooked the entire time! Love the passion!
Thanks so much Terence, really appreciate the support!
My God, you guys are way too cool
Showing off with anamorphic flair.
Nice 😀
😉
this is amazing
Much better than Netflix.
Awesome! I hope we also get a muzzle flash and other effects compositing video, I would really like to hear what JP has to say about good muzzle flashes.
Haha yes sooo much to cover! I'm sure we'll do a post EP soon 😉
Hey... You're really not a bad actor... I'd watch you in an action flick. Nice work.
This is Tommy's secret plot all along...
Wow... Was beneficial a lot
This is a really good video
Some great tips there thank you, super cool as always 👍🏻
Thank you!
Really good and funny.
Back with a bang!🤩🔥
oh yeahhh 🔥
Great stuff guys!
😘
You can also use something like the Red Komodo for action sequences since it has a global shutter that still doesn't lower the DR as much as other global shutter cameras. Then you don't have to worry about rolling shutter issues but still get a really good image quality.
LOVED IT! useful stuff i learned today, lighting, flash bulbs, EVERYTHING... sadly the project that im working on it will be a pain in the ass to work with replicas (guns in the most part) because im living in Mexico. wishing luck to everyones projects out there
You guys killed it! 😎
Thanks, Mike!
Great tutorial! Now we need one showing how to make your own scrubs or simulated bullet hits.
Great video!
Thank you! Even fake guns need to be treated real and not as toys on principal incase someone ever puts the wrong one on set and for the message it sends for people who've never handled one.
amen to that!
@@InCameraTV I am a former weapons instructor and approved safety consultant if you ever need anyone on set to go through safety give me a bell.
Worth the wait. Greetings from\Puerto Rico
Hola!
As a huge Bebop fan, I appreciate this episode a bunch.
What's in the box Tommy!?
Definitely gonna watch this soon as I get home.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@InCameraTV Great production and very helpful as always
Cool lil film! Loved the Spike reference, it was only natural to end up looking like him with that type of Bop music.
Oh absolutely, Tommy just couldn't resist!
Excellent job guys! Great sequence and well put together. (From a BAFTA member 😉)
The scenes at the start felt like an extended scene from Spaced with the same humour throughout 😂
That was sick. Awesome vid.
Thanks, Travis!
Tip for the microphone for the strobe.
Just get yourself an electret microphone for 50p and a nice opamp like an lm324 or Ic741 and a resistor of 1K and a trimmer pit of 1K and a 10uF decoupling capacitor and just run that behind the actual mic or the lamp and you have a very tiny circuit (especially if you do it SMD) for about 5quid total that can be dialed in for the sound level you need. And you can even go nuts by adding a high impendence buffer (single transistor or another opamp) and add an RC low pass to that to also narrow the frequency to what to trigger to. (Or even a band pass). But just doing the amplification circuit will already make the strobe far more sensitive.
And if you want to go wireless then you can do that too with a similar setup and a little ESP32 as a wifi transmitter and one on the lamp as a receiver. And just trigger the lamp on a message.
This guy is better than the best actors that I've ever seen
FACT!!! 😂😘
you can buy shell ejecting airsoft guns. they are rare because they are expensive to run on a field, but you can get them, and even take the shell system out and put it in a different body to make it a different gun.
This is fantastic, I love your content! This one especially is what I dreamt of when I was a kid shooting movies with old dv cams! I was wondering, can you say which model of strobe light you're using?
dammmnn that's some nice badass filmaking
Wonderful video! I love seeing effects done in-camera, your videos have helped me out in the past too! One question, though, where do you find the vintage styled cap weapons? Like the Uzi, for example. You mentioned that it was over 30 years old and hard to find, but I'm very curious about sub-blank firing weapons. Any information on that would be so much appreciated! Thanks for this video!
Came here from Tom Scott, and I can't remember the guy in the film's name because I'm kinda drunk, but he's got some real quirky young Simon Pegg energy going on.
Same here, bud.
cool!
The SOUNDTRACK tho!
We need to know where to find it
So funny!
This shit is pretty enjoyable to watch I have to say. Keep it up!!!
Thanks Thomas, really appreciate it!
*GREAT TRAILER!*
So now...when is the movie coming out?
We tried the remote controlled squibs from a gun, very hit and miss, (pardon the pun), watch Munich, see if you can tell the times they did work vs didn’t.
We also had a AK-47 in the helicopter scene that was fully functional ie. Recoil, bullet ejection, and flash from the muzzle using acetylene and a igniter, 100% safe could put your hand next to muzzle.
Awesome. Pete the faceless henchman :)
I was hired to do myzzle flash vfx in post for a short (along with a few blood effects) and I added the lighting with a grade layers and some masks. It makes a huge difference.
I did sound design for another short film and their editor didn't do it and it made the moment really fall flat.
It really helps to sell it! You can always tell when something is missing, even if you can'y put your finger on what that exactly is