War Thunder WHAT IS THE BEST TORNADO? A closer look on the German, British and Italian Tornado IDS'!

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  • čas přidán 23. 12. 2022
  • Hey guys taking a look on the Tornados to see which one of it is the best!
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Komentáře • 109

  • @mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49
    @mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49 Před rokem +117

    For now the Tornado is just a fancy Jaguar, but if it eventually gets full access to its IRL weapons it’ll be my favorite jet

    • @jfv2312
      @jfv2312 Před rokem +6

      I mean... Most of the armament it's missing is interesting and all, but I doubt it would be any useful in a game like WT. Maybe later versions like the british GR.4, german ASSTA 2 and italian MLU-IT would get more unique guided bombs and AA missiles, but apart from that I'm not sure about what would be missing

    • @mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49
      @mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49 Před rokem +5

      @@jfv2312 the most important weapon missing is it’s Mavericks, and HARMs but that gets a pass since their not ingame yet

    • @jfv2312
      @jfv2312 Před rokem +2

      @@mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49 did all the IDS variants carry mavericks though? I've only seen some sources saying they were cleared for use with RAF Tornados, but so far I haven't checked on any pictures or manuals showing them. I hope Gaijin adds them, at least to the british ones...

    • @mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49
      @mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49 Před rokem

      @@jfv2312 not too sure, I have also seen RAF Tornados with them, as well as the Brimstone missile. German and Italian Tornados could carry bigger standoff missiles which could fill that role

    • @m1sz3lpl24
      @m1sz3lpl24 Před rokem

      All I want is ADV so that UK can finally get a semi-competitive top tier fighter, FGR2 is pretty ass at 11.3 right now compared to what it faces :/

  • @ccclll987
    @ccclll987 Před rokem +21

    The tornado as many other aircrafts in the game is why we need a PVE not only for helis but for planes too.

    • @anhex.5747
      @anhex.5747 Před rokem

      Agreed

    • @ccclll987
      @ccclll987 Před rokem

      @@radiofm4265 only for helicopters

    • @kierano8390
      @kierano8390 Před rokem +2

      you mean we need pve for bombing since we already have pve for fighters

  • @mikewizz1895
    @mikewizz1895 Před rokem +24

    I'm almost finished spading the British tornado and after days of painful experiences I think i found the strategy

    • @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man
      @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man Před rokem +2

      What’s your strategy?

    • @aslatabistaalphonso4250
      @aslatabistaalphonso4250 Před rokem +1

      Yeahhh so what's your strategy

    • @JC-uo5rj
      @JC-uo5rj Před rokem +1

      Do tell

    • @alucardtherealvampire6470
      @alucardtherealvampire6470 Před rokem +1

      @@The_Mighty_Chicken_Man probably GE and not playing it

    • @errornamenotfound2513
      @errornamenotfound2513 Před rokem +9

      @@The_Mighty_Chicken_Man bomb then fucking run back to AF ASAP. After rearm, if ur team is losing. Just J out then quit the match (u won't receive repair cost if u J out after repair and rearm as long as u didn't move) if ur team is winning. Keep bombing. while going back to base, u may wanna use ur aam too to kill AI planes that's far away from the fight. Ur going back to your base anyway, why not spend it?

  • @Alex-bi2wv
    @Alex-bi2wv Před rokem +11

    Gaijin hates Britain and Japan, change my mind.

    • @cheekibreeki1983
      @cheekibreeki1983 Před rokem

      also sweden jets

    • @FredFake
      @FredFake Před rokem

      Kinda crazy how china gets an improved F16 with a different model, but Japan does not get the F2...

  • @leighcoulson2148
    @leighcoulson2148 Před rokem +5

    Tested all three using full fuel and droptanks (not infinite fuel setting, so that they were on low fuel at the end of the test). Climbed to 38,000ft and flew until almost empty (drop tanks were gone by this time, so clean configuration) and level flight. I managed to get speeds at altitude for all three: British GR1 = 1,242 mph, Italian IDS = 1,446 mph and German IDS = 1484 mph. Obviously you'd never get anywhere near this in game. I did other tests including various climbs and then acceleration at a couple of different altitudes and the margin of difference was pretty much the same, percentage wise.

  • @pringle239
    @pringle239 Před rokem +17

    Fun fact: the tornado GR1 irl had its engines upgraded to mk103s very early in its life, the german tornado is from the 2000s.
    Clear and unironic anti-uk shit from gaijin

  • @CommanderBradAS
    @CommanderBradAS Před rokem +1

    earned my sub, really appreciate the grind and you put out some quality content that I find myself clicking whenever it is in my recommended.

  • @h.a8681
    @h.a8681 Před rokem +7

    The British bombs actually make a big difference in air RB, you only need 5 British bombs for a base, while the GER/ITA tornado's bombs need 6 to destroy a base. That means in the Tornado GR.1 you can bomb two bases completely and have 2 bombs left for other targets, the others you cannot.

    • @lewislaws6770
      @lewislaws6770 Před rokem +1

      or take the spare two bombs off, and take a fuel tank

    • @seafirefr.4751
      @seafirefr.4751 Před rokem

      @@lewislaws6770, which is very useful in SB.

    • @kalumbailey5103
      @kalumbailey5103 Před rokem

      @@lewislaws6770 you have to take off 4 bombs to equip drop tanks, then you only have 8 left so can't fully bomb 2 bases

    • @ThePadadada
      @ThePadadada Před rokem +1

      nah thats not right zou get the bases down with 5 aswell in the german one

  • @foxboydestroyer1227
    @foxboydestroyer1227 Před rokem

    Love the vids good luck on 15k

  • @ProjectRias
    @ProjectRias Před rokem +3

    keep it up mat!

  • @fslolo6622
    @fslolo6622 Před rokem

    I love that they added the JaBoG32 skin, as that is the squadron I used to Serve in

  • @idyllicelf3889
    @idyllicelf3889 Před rokem +4

    the british tornado is known for getting to 1600kph at sea level so hopefully it gets fixed

    • @leighcoulson2148
      @leighcoulson2148 Před rokem

      Depends which version (and which engines).

    • @JC-uo5rj
      @JC-uo5rj Před rokem

      @@leighcoulson2148 gr1

    • @pringle239
      @pringle239 Před rokem +3

      @@leighcoulson2148 GR1 had mk103s, only REALLY early in its life did it have mk101s, this is gaijin pulling BS

  • @Chickenricebean123
    @Chickenricebean123 Před rokem

    By the time I get my hands on the Italian top tier stuff a new tier will already have come out 😂

  • @lonelyone69
    @lonelyone69 Před rokem +1

    RIP to everyone thinking tornado f3 will fix Britain's top tier jets. The stage 1 radar is notorious in the RAF for being one of the worst fitted on a gen 4 jet. It was only until FA2 and foxhunter that the jet became competitive for BVR especially against even f15a block 10. There were even proposals to use the blue vixen radar from sea harrier and the APG 65 from the hornet because the stage 1 was that terrible.

  • @csorbalaszlo1920
    @csorbalaszlo1920 Před rokem +2

    The best going to be the event one
    and since a loads of player going to be bad with it probably its going to be 10.3 soon
    We need to wait what these kormoran can do against tanks since the secondary capability is ground attacking but knowing gaijin there is a small chance
    If the kormorans wull work properly against ground targets then it will be good

  • @GlazSh0tJFK
    @GlazSh0tJFK Před rokem +17

    I feel the pain of the country that made something getting a worse version in the case of the British engine. Happened to the US quite a bit in War Thunder...

    • @theeasternspy266
      @theeasternspy266 Před rokem +5

      Every nation that got the Tornado made it locally. It was a joint project

    • @pringle239
      @pringle239 Před rokem +7

      Both of you, just stop...
      The USA is not the victim, they have owned the top tier air meta for about a year now.
      UK has no reason to be using mk101s in game when IRL its tornado was upgraded to MK103s very early in its life and the Germany tornado is from the early 2000s

    • @chrizzyhd5080
      @chrizzyhd5080 Před rokem

      @@pringle239 Probably meant the F-104, which the US stopped developing after the C in pursuit of better aircraft, and then gave them to NATO allies who further developed them. Same goes for EJ Kai, among other airframes.

    • @pringle239
      @pringle239 Před rokem +1

      @@chrizzyhd5080 Difference there is that it is historical whereas the tornado is Gaijin choosing to give the British one a weaker engine

    • @GlazSh0tJFK
      @GlazSh0tJFK Před rokem

      @@pringle239 I’m referring to Italy getting the F84 before the US years ago. And China getting the F5 before the US. I’m not talking about the MLU, it has 30 more flares… boo hoo. I was mad when the US wasn’t getting the ADF but they did. It would have been dumb if the Chinese got a better one like that. I have my own opinions on the F16 as a whole. But everyone is toxic in the WT community and won’t hear anything out. However, there are more cases of this happening to the US. I play multiple nations so it’s not like I main one lol. My opinions are as non biased as possible.

  • @raksomething6942
    @raksomething6942 Před rokem +5

    The best tornado is the event one

    • @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man
      @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man Před rokem

      That’s the one I’m trying to get so I hope it’s good

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 Před rokem

      I'm gonna get the tech tree one researched while grinding the event lol. After that the only german vehicles I won't have are rank 1-4 event vehicles and the event he-162

    • @FredFake
      @FredFake Před rokem

      Yeah its also at lower BR lmao

  • @richardspencer9503
    @richardspencer9503 Před rokem

    they need to at least I've fix the engines or ad the sky shadow anti radar pods for the britsh gr1 tornado if its ever going to realy compete

  • @ofekk213
    @ofekk213 Před rokem +2

    You (and EVERYONE in the content creator community somehow?!) forgot to mention the tornados each use a diffetent targrting pod.
    The Tornado GR.1 uses the familiar TIALD and the Tornado ASSTA1 uses Rafael's LITENING II.

  • @bentaylor1930
    @bentaylor1930 Před rokem +3

    We need Tornado ADV for Britain and Italy ASAP

    • @Flitzepiepe_O2
      @Flitzepiepe_O2 Před rokem

      Germany doesn’t exist 😢?

    • @bentaylor1930
      @bentaylor1930 Před rokem

      @@Flitzepiepe_O2 they didn't use the ADV variant

    • @Flitzepiepe_O2
      @Flitzepiepe_O2 Před rokem

      @@bentaylor1930 ah im dumb im sorry xD

    • @bentaylor1930
      @bentaylor1930 Před rokem +1

      @@Flitzepiepe_O2 it's OK, germany could do with a tornado upgrade tbh

  • @molstad182
    @molstad182 Před rokem

    the huge offense with the tornados is that the event marineflieger one is 10.7 while the only difference being that it gets kormorans instead of GBs which are...arguably better assuming they can lock on to ground with the ground radar?

    • @Javier-1399
      @Javier-1399 Před rokem

      If it is 10.7 it's bc probably has no chance of shooting kormorans on tanks. Otherwise it should be 11.3 too. We'll see how it works tho cause it's not clear yet just my guessing.

    • @FredFake
      @FredFake Před rokem

      The radar is able to lock onto and detect tanks from like 14-15km out in test flight. I suspect the accuracy may not be the best however, which might balance it

    • @Javier-1399
      @Javier-1399 Před rokem

      @@FredFake Gaijing just did remove the gound radar lock a couple of days ago, so this thing is a G91 at 10.7. The thing is that Gaijing did this when everyone was already grinding for it bc we all think it was going to have ground radar lock. Classic Gaijin move haha. We better get the 10 stars of the event and sell this shit

    • @FredFake
      @FredFake Před rokem +1

      @@Javier-1399 You're right, it looks like they have, I guess we just can't have nice things. Hopefully they add it back in, but given this is the snail we're talking about, I'm not going to hold my breath.

  • @TheFlyingPancakeReal
    @TheFlyingPancakeReal Před rokem +1

    The assta1 is a 2015 modification, sooo

  • @Franseven
    @Franseven Před rokem +1

    is the marineflieger same performance as the german tt one?

    • @LarryPigeon1
      @LarryPigeon1 Před rokem

      Prob just other loadout options. I hate the tornados flight model+the bs repair costs but it does make grinding the event pretty nice tho...(that fucker plane should came when the F14 or the russian su22 where introduced....

  • @MalkieOnPC
    @MalkieOnPC Před rokem

    Not sure why the GR1 aproaches RIP speed at lower speed when the others dont ?

    • @h.a8681
      @h.a8681 Před rokem +4

      They used the operator manual for each of the different nations tornados. They give different numbers, so even though the planes are almost exactly the same they have different rip speeds, its ridiculous

  • @kevinalfay1050
    @kevinalfay1050 Před rokem

    How mark that's target?

  • @mathmusicstructure
    @mathmusicstructure Před rokem

    please add timestamps/chapters. Thank you for the video!

  • @samm4389
    @samm4389 Před rokem +4

    I wish Germany got the mig 29

    • @sammchenry738
      @sammchenry738 Před rokem +1

      I wish the usa got the mig 29

    • @acogex
      @acogex Před rokem

      its coming next patches

    • @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man
      @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man Před rokem +3

      It will probably be there for Germany next patch (hopefully)

    • @fazerswinky2766
      @fazerswinky2766 Před rokem +2

      you are doeing the same mistake everyone do comparing a bomber to fighters : reminder the tornado,jaguar and viggen are used as bombers with second fighter role capabilities these jets are similar to su34 and su24 fencer they are small bombers but not fighters obliviously you have to play them like you were playing a small b1 lancer or a small tu160 but you c ant do cobras or have supermaneuvrability in a bomber but for german fighters its true that in the game at top tier there are only german copies of american and russian fighters wich is sad because germany made some prototypes fighter jets in the end of the cold war like the MBB lampyridae or the MBB TKF-90 wich were built just didnt entered service sadly (like e100 and maus but for late cold war era planes)

    • @Frozander
      @Frozander Před rokem

      @@fazerswinky2766 Holy bro wrote a paragraph about a glorified (worse) jaguar.

  • @primares8791
    @primares8791 Před rokem +1

    How much air to air missiles can it carry?

    • @primares8791
      @primares8791 Před rokem +3

      Only 2 rly?

    • @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man
      @The_Mighty_Chicken_Man Před rokem

      @@primares8791yeah

    • @primares8791
      @primares8791 Před rokem

      With only two missiles it’s totally not competitive with the rest of the 4.th gens and even white the top of 3. th gen. Why they don’t give them 4 like in reallife ? That’s just silly

    • @fazerswinky2766
      @fazerswinky2766 Před rokem +1

      @@primares8791 its a bomber plane not a fighter jet and its actually the second twin engine 4th gen bomber in the game with the jaguar just its a bit heavier but these planes were made to be closer from a bomber with nucler strike capabilities than fighters as they are heavier and were made to carry bombs if you grind the tornadoes you have to put in your head that you are basically grinding a mini b1 lancer

    • @primares8791
      @primares8791 Před rokem

      Yes that’s right, but they could at least give it 4, because they had 4 in reality too

  • @gamerforever2126
    @gamerforever2126 Před rokem

    My friend won in giveaway here, Well I'm so jealous but hope you give me a heart

  • @chadmcmuscles7688
    @chadmcmuscles7688 Před rokem

    Are you brazillian?

  • @maxdavidyermolaev4164

    Dude you are climbing so fast there is a possibility to get 100k next year

  • @AndreDiasRJ
    @AndreDiasRJ Před rokem

    Marineflieger should be compared here

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 Před rokem +3

      We can't compare it yet because it isn't available for test flight yet

    • @GeneralHack17
      @GeneralHack17 Před rokem +1

      @@fate3071 you can do the test drive

    • @Javier-1399
      @Javier-1399 Před rokem

      @@GeneralHack17 but you cant try its payload yet

    • @matawg
      @matawg  Před rokem

      yeah I will when its added :) cause we cant test the payloads yet so I'll wait for that to do it

  • @wardogleader3200
    @wardogleader3200 Před rokem

    Can I play with u

  • @Frozander
    @Frozander Před rokem +2

    All of them are bad at 11.3

  • @ellinecockburn2601
    @ellinecockburn2601 Před rokem +1

    To who ever pressed the like button Milli seconds before me to make it 25 likes well do you where fast

  • @crankykekw3312
    @crankykekw3312 Před rokem +1

    tornado handles like crap

  • @maxdavidyermolaev4164

    What abou the wintet event one?

  • @maxdavidyermolaev4164

    If you could make the video a little shorter, with a little editing.