They need to change the RB EC mode to be more like sim with a set number of respawns or even pay to play like in sim. The EC mode they have in BR sucks, it ends way too fast. If they made a server select mode like sim with that I think a big portion of the community would be happy. They are the best maps and game modes in my opinion. Enough room to play, Enough AI objectives to even make the bombers happy.
Dont need the MiG-25 just add the MiG-31 its better, MiG-25 is hard to balance but the 31 is definitely easier to balance somewhere in 11.0 - 12.0 the 25 would be somewhere in 9.7 yes its fast but thats it the missile are crap and it doesnt have a gun.
We need BR decompression and a revamp to the Air RB gamemode. The gameplay loop is just so damn boring after IRCCM and Fox3's. I get the appeal of constantly adding aircraft but after 3rd gens the gameplay loop for any aircraft is the same: rush, point, and click to shoot missile. Or BVR and waste 90% of your missiles. Enforcing lower player count lobbies and decompressing the BRs at higher tiers would be a great start before moving on to 4+ gens.
Before they add more modern vehicles, for air they need to fix the team sizes, and for ground and air they need to start reducing rp cost. The grind is already ridiculously long.
@@nowortimore1445only in air rb. The F14b is cheeks in sim battles because of the radar’s inability to find and track targets at close range and maintain tracks/locks at any range.
People were saying that the F-15A couldn’t come to the game because of the lack of countermeasures and trash missiles. They added a very late A variant of the F-15A MSIP so they’ll likely do the same with the F-18A+ which can use AMRAAMS and they’ll add an F-18C later with other stuff, maybe AIM-9X?
@@mattcooper6591 you can set up a custom battle for that if you just wanna play against your friends. but sometimes my friends have stuff to do while I don't have stuff to do and vice versa (timezones moment) and being able to do 1v1s and 2v2s without them would be nice
WHAT is MISSING BEFORE we go to the 4.5 GEN JETS? Answer : 1. F-CK 1A Ching Kuo 2. F/A-18A/B/C/D Legacy Hornets 3. F-14D Super Tomcat 4. J-10A 5. F-15E Strike Eagle 6. SU-34
Oh boo hoo, Britain had to deal with Turdnadoes, Italy had basically nothing, France had 4 unusable missiles before the Magics were buffed, and neither of these nations get good Ground vehicles, Germany got spoon-fed this whole time
Tbh we could use a F14D, F/A 18 A/B/C, SU33, a new MiG 29, early stage of the Eurofighter, maybe a block 25-45 C/D F16 some Chinese fighters would be nice as they kinda need it. These all seem very realistic to see what we could get next with out question
The F-14B that we currently have has a completely different airframe than what the F-14Ds would have due to their 1990s airframe upgrade. Most F-14Ds were upgraded A’s with the earlier airframe only difference were the stabilizing glove departments being welded shut. So the F-14Ds would have the F-14A flight model, with similar avionics to the F-14B (slightly better also with IRST). So no it would most definitely be broken along with it’s ability to carry amraams and Aim9Ms AND GBUs
@@Floopuss It’s supposedly the hypothetical longest range air to air missile in the world, and it can also engage ballistic missiles, surface, and ground targets (since it’s basically an SM-6)
Not a Gen 4, but I wanna see the S-3 Viking and a tech tree A-6 Intruder added to the US attack line. Hell we should be seeing Wild Weasel and Growler aircraft at this point.
I think instead of the su33 the su30 would be cool, as it kinda lays a path for 4.5 gen weaponry and tec and can actually fight the spam ram meta with r77-1. Great vid 👍
Gaijin is gonna save the F18A or C for December. Since it's a highly requested aircraft and highly anticipated. I'm certain that Gaijin is gonna save it for the last update for the year. Giving 2024 one last bang
@@STRYKER1467 true but when where talking about 4th gen the fullback should also be added. But your right tho. The 3th gen isn’t finished and we are already moving into 4,5 gen. Kinda weird
Besides these upgrades we also need more advanced versions of the Fox 3 missiles currently in game, there are several variants of the AIM120 they could add which are era appropriate for current Jets as an example.
The game is not ready for them. TBH it wasn’t ready for fox 3 missiles. Realistic needs to be a mix between realistic and simulator at higher tiers. Decrease the number of players, change the airfield spawns (make them farther apart and randomized) and have another objective besides just kill the enemies. Having one team need to destroy a set of objectives while the other is stopping them or something like that will allow the new jets to be used in a way that they would be utilized.
We are missing actual 10 v 10 and 8 v 8 games and/or larger maps, and/or better game modes for top-tier jets. Gaijin can add all the jets in the world to the game and it will make the game absolutely trash if everything else stays the same. Mat never considers these things, just wars more and more jets.
The swiss fa18 (and the finnish, which i am not 100 percent sure) are not capable of doing air to ground missions as a humanitarian group wanted the aircrafts not to be used against humans/civilians directly but only for denfense against other fighters, attackers and bombers
I still want to see aircraft like the hawk and gnat added, ever since France and Germany got the alpha jet, it’s time for Britain, Finland and other nations to get their hawks
I think every1 needs to stop crying what BR planes are and learn to improve their skill level and how 2 beat those planes ex. not yolo towards the enemy which I see to many times 11.7 to 13,0 ppeople doing
We will get more jets, even 4.5, but they will have the missiles we have currently. They won't get anything more modern since the current-day platforms are nothing special except the Raptor and F35.
mig 25/31 some old interceptors or pure navy update like new carriers for f18 with f18 for su 33 and ideal for most nation and fleet for plane carrier in formation (with functional air defends, vulcans, short range missiles, mid range and long range and at the end ASM for planes and ships ) missions open sea and some coasts fighting two plane carrier battle grupe wich team destroy more ships wins or ships are closing to range of the ASM and which players destroy plane carrier then team wins, players can spawn on plane carrier after death, and after carrier are sunk just kill rest players, other ships like light crusers are for points or for neutralizing Air defence that cruiser can shot down plane carring ASM or bombs or even ASM after you sunk cruiser is plane carrier is more vulnerable
I am going to be honest I love your videos and agree on a couple of those you have said however your missing the below J10 Mig 25 Mig 31 Obviously you said the f18 But I think not this patch but next we may see the inclusion of our first stealth plane being f117
@@TheAngriestGamer. I don’t believe it would be. I think it would be fairly straightforward to counter. The plane as we already know is no dog fighter it would be the fastest jet in the game and also have the highest ceiling of all jets to date however the plane would quickly find itself stuck after firing its missiles just like the f14 when you equip with all Phoenix missiles. Missiles can all be evaded or if you use defensive flying this would also reduce the chances of being shot down. But the plane would eventually need to come down and either dog fight, land and re-arm or be shot down by another capable missile.
@@chrisdempyful ive fought them in DCS, they are aids. they out run and out range everything, they can simply outrun all return fire, and their Hyper long range missiles shut down the sky. We dont have TALDs, Jamming, or Anti-Radar missiles in the game so their is no real way to fight them, even Aim120Ds struggle to fight them, and we dont even have Cs. the best way to fight Mig31s is to literally to get low, run away and drag them to a patriot sam battery or Naval Fleet (which WT doesnt have). I really dont want to fight a 160-250NM Mach 5+ missile fired from a mach 3+ jet thats 2x as fast as everything else it would fight.. no thanks, we dont need a Sky Pantsir to ruin Air RB/Sim battles like ground RB is ruined.
@@luger4809 well it’s not just one or the other, 4.5 gen means it has “advanced sensor integration, AESA radar, supercruise capability, supermaneuverability, broad multi-role capability, and reduced radar cross-section.”
@@Floopuss correct but the gripen’s main selling point is its electronic warfare suite which really puts it up to par with other 4.5s, especially in the new E variant which is I believe, twice as strong if I’m not mistaken
@@gangstercheesefries1112 sometimes in a week, but the problems i think the server lagging and matters where is the play CIS EU ... Or lose the server with perfect internet connection or they must create a fairplay matchmaking... I think they must create battles with different types of players levels. A high rate player never play with a new bought premium player... and after one died left... It is not only a flying simulator in realistic battles...
we are missing a proper 10v10 or 8v8 player count game mode before we have to dodge 4 advance amraams
They need to change the RB EC mode to be more like sim with a set number of respawns or even pay to play like in sim.
The EC mode they have in BR sucks, it ends way too fast.
If they made a server select mode like sim with that I think a big portion of the community would be happy.
They are the best maps and game modes in my opinion. Enough room to play, Enough AI objectives to even make the bombers happy.
@@jacknickolstine3355 They would have done this a long time ago but it would make grinding easier which is a big no no for gaygin
Need the mig25, delta dart, and at least the F-111F
Don’t forget about the Voodoo!
Dont need the MiG-25 just add the MiG-31 its better, MiG-25 is hard to balance but the 31 is definitely easier to balance somewhere in 11.0 - 12.0 the 25 would be somewhere in 9.7 yes its fast but thats it the missile are crap and it doesnt have a gun.
@@STRYKER1467 depends on the variant of the MiG-31
We need BR decompression and a revamp to the Air RB gamemode. The gameplay loop is just so damn boring after IRCCM and Fox3's.
I get the appeal of constantly adding aircraft but after 3rd gens the gameplay loop for any aircraft is the same: rush, point, and click to shoot missile. Or BVR and waste 90% of your missiles.
Enforcing lower player count lobbies and decompressing the BRs at higher tiers would be a great start before moving on to 4+ gens.
Before they add more modern vehicles, for air they need to fix the team sizes, and for ground and air they need to start reducing rp cost. The grind is already ridiculously long.
F14b is straight up bullying with the Dow tiers and phoenix spam
F-14A is better tier for tier IMO never sees 13.0
@@CallofWarQCye technically because of the br placement f-14A may be the best plane in the game
Yea he is completely delusional, the F14 A or B absolutely club in dowtiers. The B should be 12.7 and the A 12.3.
@@nowortimore144512.3 with aim-9g?
@@nowortimore1445only in air rb. The F14b is cheeks in sim battles because of the radar’s inability to find and track targets at close range and maintain tracks/locks at any range.
People were saying that the F-15A couldn’t come to the game because of the lack of countermeasures and trash missiles. They added a very late A variant of the F-15A MSIP so they’ll likely do the same with the F-18A+ which can use AMRAAMS and they’ll add an F-18C later with other stuff, maybe AIM-9X?
Hornets, mig25 and J10 are the three more or less new airframes that aren't derivatives from other types that I'd like to see
i'd love to see a 1v1 air rb and 2v2 air rb game mode
Yeah but if they do that people will complain about the sl and rp rewards.. maybe x5 them and it will be good :)
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I wouldn’t even care if I got sl or rp from this game mode. Let me and my friend dog fight and use skill instead of spam
@@mattcooper6591 just make a custom match with ur friend then..
@@mattcooper6591 you can set up a custom battle for that if you just wanna play against your friends. but sometimes my friends have stuff to do while I don't have stuff to do and vice versa (timezones moment) and being able to do 1v1s and 2v2s without them would be nice
WHAT is MISSING BEFORE we go to the 4.5 GEN JETS?
Answer :
1. F-CK 1A Ching Kuo
2. F/A-18A/B/C/D Legacy Hornets
3. F-14D Super Tomcat
4. J-10A
5. F-15E Strike Eagle
6. SU-34
Why is F-CK 1A such a hilarious name to me
Japanese F-2
F-2 os a gen 4+ jet tho@@ulysses7945
i think gaijin just needs to add the jets not just consistent variants to make up for the lack of skill on the dev team
WHAT WE NEED IS TO HELP GERMAN PLAYERS FROM NOT KILLING THEMSELVES
My little brother has been losing his mind lmfaooooooooo
😂
They’ll survive, Britain and Italy had to deal with it for a couple years before they got any sort of turn-fighters
Oh boo hoo, Britain had to deal with Turdnadoes, Italy had basically nothing, France had 4 unusable missiles before the Magics were buffed, and neither of these nations get good Ground vehicles, Germany got spoon-fed this whole time
Tbh we could use a F14D, F/A 18 A/B/C, SU33, a new MiG 29, early stage of the Eurofighter, maybe a block 25-45 C/D F16 some Chinese fighters would be nice as they kinda need it. These all seem very realistic to see what we could get next with out question
The F-14B that we currently have has a completely different airframe than what the F-14Ds would have due to their 1990s airframe upgrade. Most F-14Ds were upgraded A’s with the earlier airframe only difference were the stabilizing glove departments being welded shut. So the F-14Ds would have the F-14A flight model, with similar avionics to the F-14B (slightly better also with IRST). So no it would most definitely be broken along with it’s ability to carry amraams and Aim9Ms AND GBUs
Matt's FEET are missing, if you ask me. 👁❤️👃🦶
Mat- nice vid. Would you have any interest in making a video on very long range missiles and their place in WT, like the AIM-174B, R-37M, PL-17, etc?
That would be a cool video, the AIM-174B is very interesting
@@Floopuss It’s supposedly the hypothetical longest range air to air missile in the world, and it can also engage ballistic missiles, surface, and ground targets (since it’s basically an SM-6)
@@christopherchartier3017they don’t have any place in warthunder not with the fur ball meta still here
@@thatoneguy1741 I know, I don’t suspect any of them EVER getting added. It’s still fun to compare and dive down into
We need an actual fucking enjoyable game with no power creep I tell you what we need
Not a Gen 4, but I wanna see the S-3 Viking and a tech tree A-6 Intruder added to the US attack line. Hell we should be seeing Wild Weasel and Growler aircraft at this point.
i want the Mirage 2000-5 Mk-2, F-14D-170-GR, F/A-18C, A-10C, F-111F
I think instead of the su33 the su30 would be cool, as it kinda lays a path for 4.5 gen weaponry and tec and can actually fight the spam ram meta with r77-1. Great vid 👍
I’d like to see more maps that facilitated carrier ops more
Gaijin is gonna save the F18A or C for December. Since it's a highly requested aircraft and highly anticipated. I'm certain that Gaijin is gonna save it for the last update for the year. Giving 2024 one last bang
su-34 full back should be added and the f15e strike eagle to
We need the Su-24 first.
Why u need strike eagle if F16 better? Only fighter which can carry 6 mavericks.
@@STRYKER1467 true but when where talking about 4th gen the fullback should also be added. But your right tho. The 3th gen isn’t finished and we are already moving into 4,5 gen. Kinda weird
@@Spockpower_prive thats gaijin again well never understand.
matawg os underrated, lot of good info with high accuracy most of the time
GIVE ME THE 18!
Just give us RB EC for top tier ffs
Crazy how each gen looks unique 6th gen aircraft us is currently developing will look out of this world
Century series jets.
Besides these upgrades we also need more advanced versions of the Fox 3 missiles currently in game, there are several variants of the AIM120 they could add which are era appropriate for current Jets as an example.
The game is not ready for them. TBH it wasn’t ready for fox 3 missiles. Realistic needs to be a mix between realistic and simulator at higher tiers. Decrease the number of players, change the airfield spawns (make them farther apart and randomized) and have another objective besides just kill the enemies. Having one team need to destroy a set of objectives while the other is stopping them or something like that will allow the new jets to be used in a way that they would be utilized.
We are missing actual 10 v 10 and 8 v 8 games and/or larger maps, and/or better game modes for top-tier jets. Gaijin can add all the jets in the world to the game and it will make the game absolutely trash if everything else stays the same. Mat never considers these things, just wars more and more jets.
F18 in the Spanish subtree for Germany.
F-14D please
Su-33 isn’t coming as a tech tree vehicle. A non Fox-3 slinger post Seek and destroy it’ll likely just come later as a premium or event vehicle.
Su-33 could be added below the Yak-41.
@@STRYKER1467 Sure maybe
I want the hawk 200 and Atlas cheetah for Britain
If the f 18 does come out, will germany get the swiss one?
we need unfucked multipathing beforehand
God I’m so early ima chaff all over my screen
The swiss fa18 (and the finnish, which i am not 100 percent sure) are not capable of doing air to ground missions as a humanitarian group wanted the aircrafts not to be used against humans/civilians directly but only for denfense against other fighters, attackers and bombers
ECM
We are missing the fixed F-15 radar
I still want to see aircraft like the hawk and gnat added, ever since France and Germany got the alpha jet, it’s time for Britain, Finland and other nations to get their hawks
I am so ready for a Hot Shots skin for the gnat.
Iranian f14 in ussr tree!
I think it would be better to add more Czech aircrafts to the ussr tree for example the L-39 or L-159, maybe even the JAS-39C.
I'm excited for the rhino.
I think the Mig 25 would also be nice to have.
MiG-31 is the better choice.
I think every1 needs to stop crying what BR planes are and learn to improve their skill level and how 2 beat those planes
ex. not yolo towards the enemy which I see to many times 11.7 to 13,0 ppeople doing
Thers like 50 planes that should be added before the 4.5 generetion aircraft 💀
We will get more jets, even 4.5, but they will have the missiles we have currently. They won't get anything more modern since the current-day platforms are nothing special except the Raptor and F35.
JF-17
mig 25/31 some old interceptors or pure navy update like new carriers for f18 with f18 for su 33 and ideal for most nation and fleet for plane carrier in formation (with functional air defends, vulcans, short range missiles, mid range and long range and at the end ASM for planes and ships ) missions open sea and some coasts fighting two plane carrier battle grupe wich team destroy more ships wins or ships are closing to range of the ASM and which players destroy plane carrier then team wins, players can spawn on plane carrier after death, and after carrier are sunk just kill rest players, other ships like light crusers are for points or for neutralizing Air defence that cruiser can shot down plane carring ASM or bombs or even ASM after you sunk cruiser is plane carrier is more vulnerable
pure navy missions
Trooper ahh suggestion
do i even bother trying to get to top tier at this point ??
Gaijin, please add Su-47 Berkut! I will pay whatever you want 😅
I highly doubt that they would add a technology denonstrator aircraft sadly.
@@Mr_Lukasgrim they add the challenger 3 so maybe they will add technology demostrator for aircraft TT
could work, Su-47 and Su-37 are both possible.
isnt like f-15C and f-15C an 4.5 gen already?
No, what would be 4.5 gen for the F-15 would be the F-15EX. 5. gen usually means stealth aircraft
We already got 4+ gen jets?
Give me the super.
F18A
I am going to be honest I love your videos and agree on a couple of those you have said however your missing the below
J10
Mig 25
Mig 31
Obviously you said the f18
But I think not this patch but next we may see the inclusion of our first stealth plane being f117
mig 25/31 will be hela OP
@@TheAngriestGamer.they really wont
@@TheAngriestGamer. I don’t believe it would be. I think it would be fairly straightforward to counter. The plane as we already know is no dog fighter it would be the fastest jet in the game and also have the highest ceiling of all jets to date however the plane would quickly find itself stuck after firing its missiles just like the f14 when you equip with all Phoenix missiles. Missiles can all be evaded or if you use defensive flying this would also reduce the chances of being shot down. But the plane would eventually need to come down and either dog fight, land and re-arm or be shot down by another capable missile.
@@chrisdempyful ive fought them in DCS, they are aids.
they out run and out range everything, they can simply outrun all return fire, and their Hyper long range missiles shut down the sky.
We dont have TALDs, Jamming, or Anti-Radar missiles in the game so their is no real way to fight them, even Aim120Ds struggle to fight them, and we dont even have Cs.
the best way to fight Mig31s is to literally to get low, run away and drag them to a patriot sam battery or Naval Fleet (which WT doesnt have). I really dont want to fight a 160-250NM Mach 5+ missile fired from a mach 3+ jet thats 2x as fast as everything else it would fight..
no thanks, we dont need a Sky Pantsir to ruin Air RB/Sim battles like ground RB is ruined.
@@chrisdempyful if you want Mig31 then the US gets Super Hornets with AIM-174B, Its only fair.
We already technically have a 4.5 gen, the gripen
bro????
I think only the Gripen E is 4.5 gen because it has a stealth coating on it.
@@Floopuss no it’s the electronic suite
@@luger4809 well it’s not just one or the other, 4.5 gen means it has “advanced sensor integration, AESA radar, supercruise capability, supermaneuverability, broad multi-role capability, and reduced radar cross-section.”
@@Floopuss correct but the gripen’s main selling point is its electronic warfare suite which really puts it up to par with other 4.5s, especially in the new E variant which is I believe, twice as strong if I’m not mistaken
Sweet
More realiable servers... Less bugs... Less cheaters...
How often do you actually run into cheaters tho? botting feels different when you run into it because it's not an advantage it's a free kill lol
@@gangstercheesefries1112 sometimes in a week, but the problems i think the server lagging and matters where is the play CIS EU ... Or lose the server with perfect internet connection or they must create a fairplay matchmaking... I think they must create battles with different types of players levels. A high rate player never play with a new bought premium player... and after one died left... It is not only a flying simulator in realistic battles...
F22 confirmed
First bruh