Just wanted to thank you for the review. I’ve never owned a pistol before, and I’ve been researching all kinds of pistols in order to make my first purchase. I’ve not fired a P30 yet, but have held one, and that ergonomic grip feels so comfortable, that I didn’t want to look at any others. I know a lot of guys make fun of the external safety, but to me it’s very important. I’m purchasing this pistol for home defense only. I have no intention of carrying so I think this model of P30 is perfect for me. I did not know about the trigger issue, but for me, and my purposes, I don’t think it’s deal breaker. Again, thanks for the review. It was very helpful, and only solidified my choice.
There is no problem with the trigger. it's just different and people keep on comparing it a competition gun safety. The P30 is a military/police gun and you do not want a competition trigger on these. I personnaly love that it has some play and the feedback is very clear.
Awesome on the LEM choice! If you yet haven’t did or thought about it. A light trigger return spring and firing pin block spring works wonders on the trigger pull without at least in my experience not compromising reliability at all. Takeup buttery smooth to the wall and breaks more crisp and clean & to add icing to the cake, if you haven’t already , look into GrayGuns short reset kit, after I did that, it made a sweet all around trigger absolutely perfect!
I purchased the same model, V3. One of my top 3 favorites. I solved the trigger problem by converting to the 4.1 LEM trigger, while retaining the decocker and safety lever. Without wanting to start a "safety/no/safety" flame war, I mention keeping both because it retains the decocker you like. As for the safety, I understand the reasons for not having one ; in my case I'm willing to accept the risk of knocking it on (I carry with the safety off), which I attempt to minimize with continuing training, because I want to have the option of having a safety during non-carry handling and not removing it solves the detent issue..
Wow you rock yours. I bought mine a month ago and I’m getting better with it. I can reliably knock down the plates at 25 yards. I’m better with my striker guns but I’m catching up. I’m not crazy about the curved trigger. At first I was pulling my shots low at the rear of the pull before the break, but I caught it and am unlearning it. The gun is the best made polymer gun I have. The Steyr M9 is my favorite to shoot. Also excellent. This gun is super smooth. I think it is the sharpest looking Hk pistol. When you talked about reliability, you recalibrated and validated my thinking about my choice. Thanks for that.
I have more handguns than I could ever justify having, but the ones that I will never sell or trade away are my HK P30s. I have the P30-s and the P30sk-s. I do not mind them having a safety as that is the manual of arms that I spent most of my adult life learning and carrying with. I do want to get the P30L-s, but I do not think that it something that I can easily budget for as I have been purchasing and building on other projects. I have been married for 30 enjoyable years now and I would love to see that continue for another 30 years at least... That may not be the case (the enjoyable part) if I suddenly run out and buy another P30! Thank you for another informative video, and I am excited about seeing this project get built! Maybe after you are finished I can show it to my wife and let her see what it is that I want to build too. Munro
I bought the P30L V3 (no S required in Ohio) three months after I bought the VP9 standard. They are a great pair. No need for LEM on the P30 considering I already have a striker-fired VP. They really compliment each other and the P30 is actually built a little nicer (hence the original high price tag only recently reduced) than the VP9.
WOW! Yours is the most convincing review of the P30L. With a few descriptive words, based on high round count experience, you got me considering it in addition to the too many pistols i already have. Im desolving my metal CZ collection, a few Glocks, and now going back to building up my H&K family. I started way back in '75 with the VP70Z. Recently added VP9SK. But, back to your sober, mature presentation, Great !👍👍 Go! ARMY!! West Point uncle, 1936
Purchased this recently, should arrive at my door monday. Cant wait to go shooting with it. I bought my wife the VP9 (or SFP9 as we call it in Canada) and it is one amazing gun, the trigger alone turns you into a better shooter. I always liked the history of DA/SA guns so I did a lot of research before making the purchase, trust me I looked at a lot of pistols, in reviews as well as in stores, from 226s, to 92s, to CZs, plus coming across your videos on P30s helped a lot seal the deal for me.
@@wcsdiaries I was talking about the sfp9 trigger. Also, since purchasing the P30 and some days only practicing the DA shooting, which is beneficial to counter that very long and heavy first pull
This is true. I will say going from the VP9 to the P30L back to back, you'll definitely notice it as I have in the past. But if you strictly run this gun, or the P30 series of guns at the same time, you don't short stroke the trigger. That said, the VP9 is starting to dominate my life, so I have to force myself to take other guns out to run them. I've got another video with this and the P30sk running back to back testing out my left hand shooting/ want to carry it left side AWIB and my primary where I carry it now at the 5 O'Clock position.
DevilDolphin I can see that for sure. My VP9 is already sitting at 850 rounds after a few weeks of ownership. It's hard to stop shooting it! When I get to 1,000 I will back off. I took my USP9c out last weekend and it took a couple mags to shoot the DA well because I've been shooting the VP9 so much. The DA probably would have been harder to adjust to if I didn't dry practice with it as much as I do. It's my home defense gun so I have it in my hands a lot. Vid coming soon on that setup, I think you will like it.
It’s ironic too because accurate shooting requires practice and mastery of a smooth squeeze, not a pull. This trigger almost capitalizes on focusing on the squeeze. I’d honestly say it seems like a great pistol for beginning shooters
I absolutely love mine..p30l..L stands for love lol..about 700 rounds in..really has made me concentrate on my trigger press..this is the first gun I ever bought that has had no failures of any kind..amazing! Thinking from now on I'm going to buy more ammo instead of another gun..this thing is the shit!!
Idk if you've heard about it but PistolTraining did a P30 endurance test with little cleaning to see how long it would last. Made more than 90k rounds before major failure was reached. I believe one of the components cracked from the heating and cooling.
Thanks man I appreciate it. I will say, I do love and miss my P30, I'm going to replace it soon. I also think I'm going to possibly get one with light LEM. Just to try it in a larger gun and compare it to my P30sk which is my BUG. I have another video coming out where I run the P30sk and P30L at the same time. Which you'll see a super brief preview at the end if you look close.
Good points on the P30. That reset is nearly identical to the P2000 and P2000sk. When I first started with any of three guns, I didn't see any big difference - due to my lack of experience to know the "real" difference. But now that I've been working out on my 1-inch dot drills over the years, that reset really makes a difference. So I'm a little turned off on it whenever I do "precision" shots. But when I go fast, it's hardly noticeable. Overall it is still a good gun.
Agreed. I plan on buying more of them over the coming years.....but they're not hot items if that makes sense. I do like how robust they are for sure. Especially the P30L. I do miss and will soon replace my P30 for sure. Probably with an LEM model.
Thank you for this video. I will wait for the VP9S. I love a thumb safety for the high thumbs grip, but "normal" HKs have the decocker built into the safety. I have handled this exact model of HK and thought the same thing of the trigger. My Apex, VP9, and Sig P226 w/ SRT spoil me.
dollarbillme Funny you say that because I'm discovering the same thing. Recently picked up a grey P30S and I love the safety lever for that very reason. Screw the actual "safe" part of the levers function lol
Thanks, I've decided I need to push myself harder when I'm at the range and I'm looking to carry my SK on the left AIWB and my primary carry on the right where I normally carry.
I bought this gun and love it. So well made. I agonized between the VP9 because the trigger is that good. I went with the P-30L because it is harder to find and the slide and ergos are amazing. So now they came out with the B with a mag release button. That would have swayed me. Mine has no safety. Like that.
Yes, safeties significantly increase safety while moving with any firearm. I don't get why people always feel the need to shit on safeties like that. A lot of people love a single action first shot, and if a safety's going to slow you down with a pistol it will slow you down with an AR as well.
Another John Wick enthusiast... you're right, it's too expensive and the trigger sucks. However like my VP9 and USP 9 & 45 Tactical's, I have no worries or concerns using my P30 V3 (no S) in my rotation. Good video as always. Thank you Bubba Yega
Thanks and I really do love running the P30 series guns once I've gotten back into my swing with them. There is more coming with this and the sk here soon.
Excellent review. I have the HK P30LS, HKP30 SK, and HK45T. Yes the triggers are heavy and the reset is a bit long, but with training solely on these HK formats i have developed excellent trigger control. Last time at the range I was executing 12 oz. cans at approximately 30 meters with the SK using DA pulls. I love my HK.
It's a great shooting gun once you start running it. I definitely prefer my HK45T, but the P30L is a special gun in its own way. I will say, you'll be seeing a video where I run the P30LS and sk together as a team here soon. Probably Sunday. I'm dropping the quick P30sk by itself video tomorrow night.
Am I the only person that likes the trigger. The pull is smooth in both DA and SA and has a nice break. I don't find the DA to be too heavy at all. Doesn't need any mods at all. The safety lever is also fine for me and does not get in the way.
This was my gateway gun into HK's. I absolutely love it. I need to get another p30, and an sk. Yes, the trigger kind of stinks, but once you shoot it for a while you hardly notice it. The HK team ran them really, really well a few years back. In my experience people worry too much about triggers and not enough about training. Great review, awesome gun.
You're spot on with the triggers, I've got a video coming up where I run the P30LS and the sk at the same time doing transitions. You can barely tell the trigger sucks once you run them for a bit. I also have to say, I'm not sure I shoot a gun flatter than the P30L when I hit my stride. At least as consistently. I might with practice. But there's something about the balance and smoothness of the P30L that is just easy to run out of the box. I don't know what it is. I wish the trigger was better for sure. But it's still a really solid gun. There will definitely be more P30 series guns in my future.
I'd argue that the SA trigger on it is quite fantastic, it's almost lem-style in a way. If you have good trigger discipline you can be accurate as fuck with it, I can't shoot for shit and was hitting dead center @ 35 yards alongside my Beretta 92 and SIG SP2022
They come with flush 17 rounders now. Mine was $650 new. With $80 GrayGuns srt mod and $10 in lazy wolf and GrayGuns springs its a fuckin beaut to shoot.I'd like to notes even stock the trigger really comes alive. I use large sides and medium back and holy shit its easily the most accurate pistol I've ever owned.the safety allows 1911 style carry so I love it. Out of 27 pistols and 10 being full sized. And that I slides sig, smiths,Springfield xdm, 1911s, etc etc....actually my nodded Beretta I shoot as accurately but I've had crazy amount of experience with that in the field...same with a mark 23 and 1911...I'd argue the reset isn't too bad as follow ups are very accurate.... Again grayguns short reset trigger is equal to the 226 or 220 with srt. Easy as hell to install. You CAN install a lem v1 with GrayGuns trigger both srt and the awesome metal trigger just fyi. Did it for a mate....for $650 this cannot be beat
I want the comp but not at the prices that are offered. I wonder if the 10 oz steel comp is really a good idea considering the pull it might have on that part of the frame.
Read a thread similar to my case on hkpro, but didn't find much to help me so would appreciate some advice. I live in a cold humid place with lots of outdoors, so HK's generous trigger guard helps a ton. I'm not too hot about striker fired or manual safeties. Currently have a USP Compact 40 v1, but thinking of switching to a P30 40 (not L). While I'm commited to .40 S&W I haven't sunk too much money (or time) on the platform. I don't mind either's battery of arms. USP rail is irrelevant. Planning on following your advice on two is one and finding THE one pistol. But the issue is I can't get hands on with a P30. Also getting spare anything here isn't convenient. I'm 5'3" and have small hands, even a buddy's HK45 gives me lots of trouble on trigger reach, and I predict the same would happen full size USPs. The USPc fits me better than Glocks and what-have-you. With that said, the questions: -1: How would you rate durability? I read the Todd Green torture test, but again, this is not going to be an exclusively IWB gun, and parts are a pain. Part of me is concerned with something like a muddy barrel. -2: Can you see the upswept part of the P30's mag release being an issue with gloves? It happened a few times with the HK45, but that thing is beefy. The standard USPc mag release is fine for me, but I might get the HK45c later. -3: I like DA/SA, but never tried LEM. How would you say they compare? Thanks for taking the time.
Hey man. Thanks to you this was my first HK purchase 2 days ago and I am beyond thrilled. Paid a tiny bit more in order to find the V3 no safety but it was worth it. I’ve only owned cheap striker fired handguns and this is my first SA/DA. I was gonna get the grayguns trigger right off the bat but I feel like it’s not as bad as others claim and im keeping it stock. Maybe the newer production triggers are better? Your HK knowledge got me hooked and this will not be my last HK. Subscribed and thanks!
I'd owned a P30 before and didn't like the balance, sold it years ago, but after trying a Glock, XD, and then a P365... I don't understand why people like no safeties... So I asked my gun guy to see if he could order a pair, primary and backup, and he delivered. I'm done on my handgun purchasing journey, a pair of P30Ls will last you a lifetime. Oh, and the new HK tritium sights are PERFECT. 3 dots, blacked out rear, with a high viz front ring that the tritium phosporesces in the dark making that front ring in the just light up. Out of the box, perfect gun. Oh, and while my pair isn't consecutively serial numbered... They are 7 digits apart, and my lucky number is 7.
The slide is a work of art. Still believe it is the best looking polymer frame pistol that has ever been made. I actually prefer the shooting characteristics of the P30 over the VP9. The trigger is also very smooth and if a person can't shoot the P30 without staying on target then they need to question their own shooting ability. In saying that I do have better days than others when shooting my P30's lol.
Perfectly stated, and I do wish the SA reset was better, but I can still run it well enough. I have a very serious soft spot for the P30 series in general, and the P30L. Great guns, with average triggers. Slow fire, they can't be beat. They stay on target like nothing else. Also a gun with these size characteristics is unique. It's a lower bore axis hammer gun, full sized and still shoots very very flat/softly. Honestly if the trigger was better I'd feel comfortable running it for everything, and would possibly not need another 9mm. The VP9 beat it out because of the total shooting experience for me. But the P30L is always a solid performer.......I do suck with it from time to time though if I don't take it out by itself or just my P30's. Switching from a better trigger to the P30 series trigger really jacks me up for a few mags.
DevilDolphin Oh there is no doubt with the later part of that statement. If I take a hand full of pistols to the range I'd better start off with my P30's, V1&V3, or I'll suck big time if I shoot them last lol. But you are so correct. If you had a hand full of P30's, L, SK, V1 or V3 you would know nothing else and be able to master the P30's. They would serve a lifetime of protection and enjoyment. I'm sure you have heard the statement that if you master a DA revolver then you can shoot anything. Well I use my P30's to practice and attempt to perfect my trigger manipulation
DD did you mention it's a very elegant pistol and all ambi, very good lefty gun, I have 2 vp-9s and they're great GTW pistols but if I could have only 1 I'm grabbing my P-30ls no doubt
The reliability of the P30 series does lend itself to being a go to war gun, or a gunfighting pistol for sure. And I may have missed that. I'll hit on it later once I get a few more vids up with it. I've already cut and edited the next P30L video....which should be out this weekend.
Great review! it's my first H&K and my first gun. It spoiled me so much. I do wish H&K would release a version of the SRT trigger kit for the P30 series though. When I shoot my M9 then switch back to my P30, the slack always throws me off a little bit.
That would be choice for sure. That SA reset can be a killer if you're not focusing on it the whole day. It is smooth though, and I think the silver lining is, the DA to SA transition is easier because of how crappy the trigger reset is. Which is a strange thing to say the least. The more I watch the footage of me running it, the more I see I can follow up a DA shot quickly with an SA shot. I'm not sure I can do that with any other gun with that speed and accuracy.
@@wcsdiaries I'm noticing that too sadly as I'm on the hunt for a standard P30L. The S models are just fine honestly. They will always be an S variant due to the design. I don't prefer them because of how I grip the pistol the safety gets in my way, the non-s models allow me to get a higher more ideal purchase. But this gun quickly made it to 4500 rounds and is one of my favorite 9mms, second only to the P226 Legion. I'm waiting to get a non safety model, but if pressed I'll pick up the P30LS as a backup.
@@wcsdiaries it's more the totality of features and how they work together. The grip features, trigger, under cut, and grips are all amazing on the Legion. But the P30L is my favorite stock production gun. Plus now with the 17 rounders and 20 rounders brought it up to speed.
IF you do I want it. I have to PCS to my next duty station, but if you have it by then, and I get my reimbursement. I'm looking to get a P30 again, and try LEM. Is it the one with the TB from your LEM video?
What if you want to get the DA/SA decocker with a gray guns trigger just to make the pull easier but wanting all the safe stuff? I like the faster trigger reset or whatever it was after you fire it and get to the wall with LEM but at same time I like the other version lol
it's amazing in it's own way!!!! looks great and I love HK just like Walter PPS 9mm original!! and rockisland armory also Springfield's I dam near like my certain guns from ALL THE gun companys!!!
Hello !! Great video !! I just bought this gun and love it !! In my state, Massachusetts, we have draconian gun laws so I can only use a 10 round magazine. This gun is very hard to find because it’s so popular. I bought the P30 SK first because I couldn’t find this one. I love that also. You didn’t mention the compensator ?
I think my P30 is great,trigger is not that bad, build solid. One of my carry guns, Haven't picked up the VP9 yet .Held one a few times, but to me not as solid as the P30 But I may be wrong.
The P30 has a thicker barrel and the track record to back it up. The VP9 is still working on it for sure, but I think over time will definitely have a solid standing to work with.
Two things I beg to differ on. 1. The luminescent sights. From my experience when carrying in a holster, the front sight would receive little to no "charge" from light and the rear sights would still receive a little more or a charge, thus resulting in a jacked up sight picture making it much harder to pick up the front sight than the rear sights. 2. I think a trigger on a standard P226 is smoother and has a nicer trigger pull than the P30. I'm agree with Colion Noir's point, for a gun in that price range it should have a much better trigger.
I was told they only imported 500 of the p30ls's, the place I got mine only had one available and The guy behind the counter said its the only one he has seen. Im not sure how true it is but thats what I heard
You just sold me this gun. Ordering mine next pay check. Gotta get it now because I don't think they will ever be this cheap again, found one for $580.
Since you have a few p30’s like I do, do you notice any differences between the date codes over the years from the early ones until the ones today? With regard to quality control, etc? I have ones from 2012, 2016, 2021.
The finish is different for sure. The older finish seems to be better? but I don't have long term use/testing on the new guns. But they do look different. Fit and quality seems to be the same.
Hi DevilDoblin, I really like your videos. I'm going to start IPSC and are considering either the P30LS tactical or the USP 9mm tactical. If you only had these two guns to choose from which one would you recommend and why? Also, i'm a lefthanded shooter.
As a lefty and in general I would recommend the P30L 9mm in V1 (Light LEM) so you can use it to compete. The SA reset is a little sloppy, but everything else on the gun is perfect. It also shoots flat as hell. Great shooting gun, and it's damn near perfect. If the trigger was slightly better, everyone would own one.
Are the rails metal? Another video claims they are polymer? Please advise as I am interested in this pistol but metal vs. plastic could be a deal breaker. Regards, GL
Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of getting a P30LS. My only reservation is if I will be comfortable or not with the thumb safety. I shoot 1911s with thumb forward style with the shooting hand thumb on top of the safety. Do you feel comfortable with this pistol's thumb safety? Do you think thumb on top of the safety while shooting a good idea for this pistol?
I got a HK 45 which I think is quite similiar in size to the P30LS. I have medium sized hands and I cant even really place my right thumb on the safety on the HK45, it rests well on the back/start side of my left thumb. My left thumb rests on the logo in front of the slide release. For reference, on a 1911 my right thumb rides ontop of the safey and rests on the same spot on my left thumb's back, with my left thumb forward at the slide release slot.
Looking to this as a first time firearm purchase for home defense. Any tips on maintenance or really anything in general? Also, saw this and was looking into it before I found out about its use in John Wick.
I highly recommend the P30L, it's a great all around gun. I would also try to work in at some point a Surefire X300UB 1000 lumen flash light. But honestly when you get it, pick up some 124gr ammo when you go to break it in. The Nato pressure stuff works best. By winchester or MEN or one of those reliable ammo manufacturers. You'll love how smooth it fires 124 +p ammo. The trigger is very stiff when you first get it but it smooths out over time. It started as a gun I wasn't sure about but now I love it and wouldn't be without it.
@@defmc1 The recoil springs are calibrated for 124 NATO pressure stuff essentially. So you'll need to fire about 500 rounds ish to break the recoil spring in. Once you get it there you can run anything. But you'll need some hotter stuff for a little while. The Winchester 124 NATO works well for that task.
I think he and I use the same grip. My thumb rides and presses down on the safety while shooting, and my other thumb presses against the slide, usually on the take down lever as a "memory" spot. I love this grip and it works well with MP's w/ safety and 1911s. The normal HKs have the decocker in the safety and it causes issues for me. I love the grip style, I draw and press down on the safety while drawing. I have never "hurt" my thumb on the safety, but my support hand thumb has been cut riding against a 1911 slide before.
It doesn't. My thumb is at rest there, and it doesn't mess with it. I've found trying to point your thumb in an un-ergonomic way takes away from accuracy. I am locked up that way, and my stubby little WOP thumbs don't get too far in the way. I will say with the P320 I have to move it sometimes. Those forward serrations are serious business the way they're cut. But that's the only gun like that for me so far. Whatever helps me center punch the targets better.
I have a question that i think only you can answer. Can i put a P30 barrel into a P30sk? For a longer barrel for range use is my thought. I am going to get a treaded barrel for that reason but it started making me think. Let me know you thoughts. Thanks 😉
I don't think you can because of the barrel lug, but let me check and get back to you. I have seen a few out in the wild online, I think you might want to check that option out first if you can find one. I'll start looking that way as well.
just bought one of these last month. i have about a hundred rounds through it with about 7 failures. using 115 gr. i’ve read you have to run 124 nato through it. currently letting it sit in my safe with the slide open and will try 124 gr ammo. can anyone verify this is likely the problem? the gun is clean and oiled well without over lubrication
I had the exact same issue with my p30l when it was brand new. It just needed to be broken. I had a few failures to extract because I was running standard 115 grain. When I ran 124 grain it did not have one issue. After about 75 rounds of the 124 it broken. Now it will feed 115 grain with no issues at all. Although now I prefer 124 grain to the 115 grain. The manufacturer recommend 124 grain + P ammo. But it will chew through just about anything I run through it at this point with no problems.
I have a few. I would recommend a G code incog for the P30 which will also fit the L with a tiny bit of the muzzle sticking out. There are other custom order options.
I’m sorry to correct you but the P30L is not a GAP gun. It’s the best of the USP and the P series combined. It truly is a phenomenal battle weapon !! Ps mine does not have the safety. Not needed with heavy first shot being double action and the decock is flawless.
Wanted one of these but my local got the 40. Not for me, tried that 40 route in the 90's and decided there is no in between caliber , it's either 9 or 45 period. So you can carry what ever you want as a duty gun or are you given an accepted models list to pick from?
I have to carry the M11 on duty, the old school 13 round top extractor M11. Not the M11-A1. I don't have any other options, but when we switch over I'll be carrying the P320c. I wish I could carry my VP9 to be honest. But that's not in the cards. Off duty is a different story of course. And I had my time with the 40, I will say I could never find my preferred load with it like I could with the 9mm and 45acp. I don't bag on guys who run it, but I don't recommend it to people looking to get into a handgun and I don't use it personally.
Thanks for sharing sir. With old age and arthritis progressing at a scary pace I've since stopped my 45 shooting. It's just to unforgiving on my joints. When I put in a serious range day of 700-1000 rounds as I love to do, It takes a couple days for the discomfort to go away and get full dexterity back. It's a fact of life and a shame...my all time favorite round is 45LC followed by 45ACP. Adapt and survive my friend.. lol
Just wanted to thank you for the review. I’ve never owned a pistol before, and I’ve been researching all kinds of pistols in order to make my first purchase. I’ve not fired a P30 yet, but have held one, and that ergonomic grip feels so comfortable, that I didn’t want to look at any others. I know a lot of guys make fun of the external safety, but to me it’s very important. I’m purchasing this pistol for home defense only. I have no intention of carrying so I think this model of P30 is perfect for me. I did not know about the trigger issue, but for me, and my purposes, I don’t think it’s deal breaker. Again, thanks for the review. It was very helpful, and only solidified my choice.
There is no problem with the trigger. it's just different and people keep on comparing it a competition gun safety. The P30 is a military/police gun and you do not want a competition trigger on these. I personnaly love that it has some play and the feedback is very clear.
Love the detailed view, absolutely in the market for a H&K 👍🏻
Awesome on the LEM choice!
If you yet haven’t did or thought about it. A light trigger return spring and firing pin block spring works wonders on the trigger pull without at least in my experience not compromising reliability at all. Takeup buttery smooth to the wall and breaks more crisp and clean & to add icing to the cake, if you haven’t already , look into GrayGuns short reset kit, after I did that, it made a sweet all around trigger absolutely perfect!
I purchased the same model, V3. One of my top 3 favorites. I solved the trigger problem by converting to the 4.1 LEM trigger, while retaining the decocker and safety lever. Without wanting to start a "safety/no/safety" flame war, I mention keeping both because it retains the decocker you like.
As for the safety, I understand the reasons for not having one ; in my case I'm willing to accept the risk of knocking it on (I carry with the safety off), which I attempt to minimize with continuing training, because I want to have the option of having a safety during non-carry handling and not removing it solves the detent issue..
how do you convert to LEM trigger?
Excellent review and commentary. Thanks!
After i pick up my SIG P220 this is my next gun, already own the SK in the V3 variant, love it!
Wonderful no BS review. Very informative! Subbed.
Wow you rock yours. I bought mine a month ago and I’m getting better with it. I can reliably knock down the plates at 25 yards. I’m better with my striker guns but I’m catching up. I’m not crazy about the curved trigger. At first I was pulling my shots low at the rear of the pull before the break, but I caught it and am unlearning it. The gun is the best made polymer gun I have. The Steyr M9 is my favorite to shoot. Also excellent.
This gun is super smooth. I think it is the sharpest looking Hk pistol. When you talked about reliability, you recalibrated and validated my thinking about my choice. Thanks for that.
I just ordered the P30L as my first. I was just looking for reliability and comfort and I think I can work with the trigger.
I have more handguns than I could ever justify having, but the ones that I will never sell or trade away are my HK P30s. I have the P30-s and the P30sk-s. I do not mind them having a safety as that is the manual of arms that I spent most of my adult life learning and carrying with. I do want to get the P30L-s, but I do not think that it something that I can easily budget for as I have been purchasing and building on other projects. I have been married for 30 enjoyable years now and I would love to see that continue for another 30 years at least... That may not be the case (the enjoyable part) if I suddenly run out and buy another P30! Thank you for another informative video, and I am excited about seeing this project get built! Maybe after you are finished I can show it to my wife and let her see what it is that I want to build too.
Munro
Absolutely. I can't wait to clear all these projects off my docket while I'm at it.
Thats really cool you weighed everything and progressively. neat feature I haven't seen before. nice video
Damn you! I was so happy with my VP9 and now I need a P30L.... Haha great video and great to see the HK love is still burning hot!
Yessir, and the P30L's trigger will let you down a bit compared to the VP9, but if you run it by itself then you'll get used to it pretty quick.
I bought the P30L V3 (no S required in Ohio) three months after I bought the VP9 standard. They are a great pair. No need for LEM on the P30 considering I already have a striker-fired VP. They really compliment each other and the P30 is actually built a little nicer (hence the original high price tag only recently reduced) than the VP9.
WOW! Yours is the most convincing review of the P30L. With a few descriptive words, based on high round count experience, you got me considering it in addition to the too many pistols i already have. Im desolving my metal CZ collection, a few Glocks, and now going back to building up my H&K family. I started way back in '75 with the VP70Z. Recently added VP9SK.
But, back to your sober, mature presentation, Great !👍👍
Go! ARMY!!
West Point uncle, 1936
Thanks I appreciate it. Hopefully you like it as much as I do. It's my second favorite 9mm.
Navy, yer welcome.
My almost most favorite?
G 17 L Gen3 6.02" of comfort.
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Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!
Purchased this recently, should arrive at my door monday. Cant wait to go shooting with it. I bought my wife the VP9 (or SFP9 as we call it in Canada) and it is one amazing gun, the trigger alone turns you into a better shooter. I always liked the history of DA/SA guns so I did a lot of research before making the purchase, trust me I looked at a lot of pistols, in reviews as well as in stores, from 226s, to 92s, to CZs, plus coming across your videos on P30s helped a lot seal the deal for me.
what do you mean the trigger makes you a better shooter? Isn't it a super long pull?
@@wcsdiaries I was talking about the sfp9 trigger. Also, since purchasing the P30 and some days only practicing the DA shooting, which is beneficial to counter that very long and heavy first pull
Great review, looks like another sweet one! I've found most people who complain excessively about triggers usually can't shoot anyway.
This is true. I will say going from the VP9 to the P30L back to back, you'll definitely notice it as I have in the past. But if you strictly run this gun, or the P30 series of guns at the same time, you don't short stroke the trigger. That said, the VP9 is starting to dominate my life, so I have to force myself to take other guns out to run them. I've got another video with this and the P30sk running back to back testing out my left hand shooting/ want to carry it left side AWIB and my primary where I carry it now at the 5 O'Clock position.
DevilDolphin I can see that for sure. My VP9 is already sitting at 850 rounds after a few weeks of ownership. It's hard to stop shooting it! When I get to 1,000 I will back off. I took my USP9c out last weekend and it took a couple mags to shoot the DA well because I've been shooting the VP9 so much. The DA probably would have been harder to adjust to if I didn't dry practice with it as much as I do. It's my home defense gun so I have it in my hands a lot. Vid coming soon on that setup, I think you will like it.
It’s ironic too because accurate shooting requires practice and mastery of a smooth squeeze, not a pull. This trigger almost capitalizes on focusing on the squeeze. I’d honestly say it seems like a great pistol for beginning shooters
The gun. The myth. The legend
I absolutely love mine..p30l..L stands for love lol..about 700 rounds in..really has made me concentrate on my trigger press..this is the first gun I ever bought that has had no failures of any kind..amazing! Thinking from now on I'm going to buy more ammo instead of another gun..this thing is the shit!!
It's absolutely one of my favorites.
Idk if you've heard about it but PistolTraining did a P30 endurance test with little cleaning to see how long it would last. Made more than 90k rounds before major failure was reached. I believe one of the components cracked from the heating and cooling.
Another great HK review man. The standard size P30 has always caught my eye.
Thanks man I appreciate it. I will say, I do love and miss my P30, I'm going to replace it soon. I also think I'm going to possibly get one with light LEM. Just to try it in a larger gun and compare it to my P30sk which is my BUG. I have another video coming out where I run the P30sk and P30L at the same time. Which you'll see a super brief preview at the end if you look close.
Good points on the P30. That reset is nearly identical to the P2000 and P2000sk. When I first started with any of three guns, I didn't see any big difference - due to my lack of experience to know the "real" difference. But now that I've been working out on my 1-inch dot drills over the years, that reset really makes a difference. So I'm a little turned off on it whenever I do "precision" shots. But when I go fast, it's hardly noticeable. Overall it is still a good gun.
Agreed. I plan on buying more of them over the coming years.....but they're not hot items if that makes sense. I do like how robust they are for sure. Especially the P30L. I do miss and will soon replace my P30 for sure. Probably with an LEM model.
Thank you for this video. I will wait for the VP9S. I love a thumb safety for the high thumbs grip, but "normal" HKs have the decocker built into the safety. I have handled this exact model of HK and thought the same thing of the trigger. My Apex, VP9, and Sig P226 w/ SRT spoil me.
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Funny you say that because I'm discovering the same thing. Recently picked up a grey P30S and I love the safety lever for that very reason. Screw the actual "safe" part of the levers function lol
great review thank you.
Loving the hand shift on the reload.
Thanks, I've decided I need to push myself harder when I'm at the range and I'm looking to carry my SK on the left AIWB and my primary carry on the right where I normally carry.
Its 6/13/2022 just purchased a p30l lem .. took it to the range, so far so good. Love the build quality! I try a give an update.
Great to hear!
I bought this gun and love it. So well made. I agonized between the VP9 because the trigger is that good. I went with the P-30L because it is harder to find and the slide and ergos are amazing. So now they came out with the B with a mag release button. That would have swayed me. Mine has no safety. Like that.
Yes, safeties significantly increase safety while moving with any firearm. I don't get why people always feel the need to shit on safeties like that. A lot of people love a single action first shot, and if a safety's going to slow you down with a pistol it will slow you down with an AR as well.
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!
Great Video thanks
Great looking HK brother!
Thanks I appreciate it.
Another John Wick enthusiast... you're right, it's too expensive and the trigger sucks. However like my VP9 and USP 9 & 45 Tactical's, I have no worries or concerns using my P30 V3 (no S) in my rotation. Good video as always. Thank you Bubba Yega
Thanks and I really do love running the P30 series guns once I've gotten back into my swing with them. There is more coming with this and the sk here soon.
Excellent review. I have the HK P30LS, HKP30 SK, and HK45T. Yes the triggers are heavy and the reset is a bit long, but with training solely on these HK formats i have developed excellent trigger control. Last time at the range I was executing 12 oz. cans at approximately 30 meters with the SK using DA pulls. I love my HK.
It's a great shooting gun once you start running it. I definitely prefer my HK45T, but the P30L is a special gun in its own way. I will say, you'll be seeing a video where I run the P30LS and sk together as a team here soon. Probably Sunday. I'm dropping the quick P30sk by itself video tomorrow night.
Just ordered mine just now...Love HK (Even though they hate me and my wallet)
So excited to get my hands on this
Am I the only person that likes the trigger. The pull is smooth in both DA and SA and has a nice break. I don't find the DA to be too heavy at all. Doesn't need any mods at all. The safety lever is also fine for me and does not get in the way.
Could also shine a quick phone light on those sights and it should work out.
Good and honest video/ review.
Thanks I appreciate it.
This was my gateway gun into HK's. I absolutely love it. I need to get another p30, and an sk. Yes, the trigger kind of stinks, but once you shoot it for a while you hardly notice it. The HK team ran them really, really well a few years back. In my experience people worry too much about triggers and not enough about training. Great review, awesome gun.
You're spot on with the triggers, I've got a video coming up where I run the P30LS and the sk at the same time doing transitions. You can barely tell the trigger sucks once you run them for a bit. I also have to say, I'm not sure I shoot a gun flatter than the P30L when I hit my stride. At least as consistently. I might with practice. But there's something about the balance and smoothness of the P30L that is just easy to run out of the box. I don't know what it is. I wish the trigger was better for sure. But it's still a really solid gun. There will definitely be more P30 series guns in my future.
Agreed on all counts. 👍
I'd argue that the SA trigger on it is quite fantastic, it's almost lem-style in a way. If you have good trigger discipline you can be accurate as fuck with it, I can't shoot for shit and was hitting dead center @ 35 yards alongside my Beretta 92 and SIG SP2022
@Scott McClellan truth
I just found a p 30 l today 550 excellent like new shape
Did not know that Todd Green had died, thanks for mentioning it.
They come with flush 17 rounders now. Mine was $650 new. With $80 GrayGuns srt mod and $10 in lazy wolf and GrayGuns springs its a fuckin beaut to shoot.I'd like to notes even stock the trigger really comes alive. I use large sides and medium back and holy shit its easily the most accurate pistol I've ever owned.the safety allows 1911 style carry so I love it. Out of 27 pistols and 10 being full sized. And that I slides sig, smiths,Springfield xdm, 1911s, etc etc....actually my nodded Beretta I shoot as accurately but I've had crazy amount of experience with that in the field...same with a mark 23 and 1911...I'd argue the reset isn't too bad as follow ups are very accurate.... Again grayguns short reset trigger is equal to the 226 or 220 with srt. Easy as hell to install. You CAN install a lem v1 with GrayGuns trigger both srt and the awesome metal trigger just fyi. Did it for a mate....for $650 this cannot be beat
I love my P30L with compensator John Wick style
Mine will be getting a Match Weight and Trij HD's soon.
I want the comp but not at the prices that are offered. I wonder if the 10 oz steel comp is really a good idea considering the pull it might have on that part of the frame.
Finally found one with no lem no safety... Took forever...
Love your videos. I have always wondered, what are the targets that you use? I am always looking for better targets and those look cool.
Read a thread similar to my case on hkpro, but didn't find much to help me so would appreciate some advice.
I live in a cold humid place with lots of outdoors, so HK's generous trigger guard helps a ton. I'm not too hot about striker fired or manual safeties. Currently have a USP Compact 40 v1, but thinking of switching to a P30 40 (not L). While I'm commited to .40 S&W I haven't sunk too much money (or time) on the platform. I don't mind either's battery of arms. USP rail is irrelevant.
Planning on following your advice on two is one and finding THE one pistol. But the issue is I can't get hands on with a P30. Also getting spare anything here isn't convenient.
I'm 5'3" and have small hands, even a buddy's HK45 gives me lots of trouble on trigger reach, and I predict the same would happen full size USPs. The USPc fits me better than Glocks and what-have-you. With that said, the questions:
-1: How would you rate durability? I read the Todd Green torture test, but again, this is not going to be an exclusively IWB gun, and parts are a pain. Part of me is concerned with something like a muddy barrel.
-2: Can you see the upswept part of the P30's mag release being an issue with gloves? It happened a few times with the HK45, but that thing is beefy. The standard USPc mag release is fine for me, but I might get the HK45c later.
-3: I like DA/SA, but never tried LEM. How would you say they compare?
Thanks for taking the time.
Hey man. Thanks to you this was my first HK purchase 2 days ago and I am beyond thrilled. Paid a tiny bit more in order to find the V3 no safety but it was worth it. I’ve only owned cheap striker fired handguns and this is my first SA/DA. I was gonna get the grayguns trigger right off the bat but I feel like it’s not as bad as others claim and im keeping it stock. Maybe the newer production triggers are better? Your HK knowledge got me hooked and this will not be my last HK. Subscribed and thanks!
How much did you end up paying?
@@arielbenitez98 800
@@KennethSchmitt total?
@@arielbenitez98 yes not tax included tho
@@KennethSchmitt it seems really nice but I can’t decide between the vp9 and the p30l 😪
I'd owned a P30 before and didn't like the balance, sold it years ago, but after trying a Glock, XD, and then a P365... I don't understand why people like no safeties... So I asked my gun guy to see if he could order a pair, primary and backup, and he delivered. I'm done on my handgun purchasing journey, a pair of P30Ls will last you a lifetime. Oh, and the new HK tritium sights are PERFECT. 3 dots, blacked out rear, with a high viz front ring that the tritium phosporesces in the dark making that front ring in the just light up. Out of the box, perfect gun. Oh, and while my pair isn't consecutively serial numbered... They are 7 digits apart, and my lucky number is 7.
The slide is a work of art. Still believe it is the best looking polymer frame pistol that has ever been made. I actually prefer the shooting characteristics of the P30 over the VP9. The trigger is also very smooth and if a person can't shoot the P30 without staying on target then they need to question their own shooting ability. In saying that I do have better days than others when shooting my P30's lol.
Perfectly stated, and I do wish the SA reset was better, but I can still run it well enough. I have a very serious soft spot for the P30 series in general, and the P30L. Great guns, with average triggers. Slow fire, they can't be beat. They stay on target like nothing else. Also a gun with these size characteristics is unique. It's a lower bore axis hammer gun, full sized and still shoots very very flat/softly. Honestly if the trigger was better I'd feel comfortable running it for everything, and would possibly not need another 9mm. The VP9 beat it out because of the total shooting experience for me. But the P30L is always a solid performer.......I do suck with it from time to time though if I don't take it out by itself or just my P30's. Switching from a better trigger to the P30 series trigger really jacks me up for a few mags.
DevilDolphin
Oh there is no doubt with the later part of that statement. If I take a hand full of pistols to the range I'd better start off with my P30's, V1&V3, or I'll suck big time if I shoot them last lol.
But you are so correct. If you had a hand full of P30's, L, SK, V1 or V3 you would know nothing else and be able to master the P30's. They would serve a lifetime of protection and enjoyment. I'm sure you have heard the statement that if you master a DA revolver then you can shoot anything. Well I use my P30's to practice and attempt to perfect my trigger manipulation
DD did you mention it's a very elegant pistol and all ambi, very good lefty gun, I have 2 vp-9s and they're great GTW pistols but if I could have only 1 I'm grabbing my P-30ls no doubt
The reliability of the P30 series does lend itself to being a go to war gun, or a gunfighting pistol for sure. And I may have missed that. I'll hit on it later once I get a few more vids up with it. I've already cut and edited the next P30L video....which should be out this weekend.
“How you doing?” Hahaha I couldn’t stop laughing
Great review! it's my first H&K and my first gun. It spoiled me so much. I do wish H&K would release a version of the SRT trigger kit for the P30 series though. When I shoot my M9 then switch back to my P30, the slack always throws me off a little bit.
That would be choice for sure. That SA reset can be a killer if you're not focusing on it the whole day. It is smooth though, and I think the silver lining is, the DA to SA transition is easier because of how crappy the trigger reset is. Which is a strange thing to say the least. The more I watch the footage of me running it, the more I see I can follow up a DA shot quickly with an SA shot. I'm not sure I can do that with any other gun with that speed and accuracy.
@@navyman8903 P30LS or P30L? I wanted the L but they are sold out everywhere atm. Only LS models are in stock.
@@wcsdiaries I'm noticing that too sadly as I'm on the hunt for a standard P30L. The S models are just fine honestly. They will always be an S variant due to the design. I don't prefer them because of how I grip the pistol the safety gets in my way, the non-s models allow me to get a higher more ideal purchase. But this gun quickly made it to 4500 rounds and is one of my favorite 9mms, second only to the P226 Legion. I'm waiting to get a non safety model, but if pressed I'll pick up the P30LS as a backup.
@@navyman8903 what makes you prefer the p226 legion over p30l out of curiosity? The trigger?
@@wcsdiaries it's more the totality of features and how they work together. The grip features, trigger, under cut, and grips are all amazing on the Legion. But the P30L is my favorite stock production gun. Plus now with the 17 rounders and 20 rounders brought it up to speed.
I tried 500 rounds with a P30 and LEM. I couldn't get used to it after so many years on the USP. One of these days I will put it up for sale.
IF you do I want it. I have to PCS to my next duty station, but if you have it by then, and I get my reimbursement. I'm looking to get a P30 again, and try LEM. Is it the one with the TB from your LEM video?
Yes. I only used the threaded barrel. Never shot the factory non-threaded barrel. I'll PM you.
(In DevelDolphin's operator voice) "The Tier 1 operator's fuck pistol returns." Love your videos, new and old.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say it is “incredible.”
I'm okay with the weight, it's more the reset. But I get what you're saying. The reset is where it should be from the factory IMO.
Nice review.
What if you want to get the DA/SA decocker with a gray guns trigger just to make the pull easier but wanting all the safe stuff? I like the faster trigger reset or whatever it was after you fire it and get to the wall with LEM but at same time I like the other version lol
Do you find that the safety digs into your right thumb knuckle?
it's amazing in it's own way!!!! looks great and I love HK just like Walter PPS 9mm original!! and rockisland armory also Springfield's I dam near like my certain guns from ALL THE gun companys!!!
What kind of owb holster do you use for p30s
P30ls v3 no safety the better one or do you prefer the v1
Hello !! Great video !! I just bought this gun and love it !! In my state, Massachusetts, we have draconian gun laws so I can only use a 10 round magazine. This gun is very hard to find because it’s so popular. I bought the P30 SK first because I couldn’t find this one. I love that also. You didn’t mention the compensator ?
hi .. you need to change the recoil spring on the p 30 ... ??
I think my P30 is great,trigger is not that bad, build solid. One of my carry guns, Haven't picked up the VP9 yet .Held one a few times, but to me not as solid as the P30 But I may be wrong.
The P30 has a thicker barrel and the track record to back it up. The VP9 is still working on it for sure, but I think over time will definitely have a solid standing to work with.
Two things I beg to differ on. 1. The luminescent sights. From my experience when carrying in a holster, the front sight would receive little to no "charge" from light and the rear sights would still receive a little more or a charge, thus resulting in a jacked up sight picture making it much harder to pick up the front sight than the rear sights.
2. I think a trigger on a standard P226 is smoother and has a nicer trigger pull than the P30. I'm agree with Colion Noir's point, for a gun in that price range it should have a much better trigger.
Nice review
Thanks I appreciate it.
Got one now and its my favorite pistol I own its truly amazing.check out the GrayGuns trigger and srt
For the da\sa or lem
Is the safety ergonomic? How does it compare to a 1911 safety?
"30 rounds of justice." lol
I was told they only imported 500 of the p30ls's, the place I got mine only had one available and The guy behind the counter said its the only one he has seen. Im not sure how true it is but thats what I heard
You just sold me this gun. Ordering mine next pay check. Gotta get it now because I don't think they will ever be this cheap again, found one for $580.
WhiskeyActual been still seeing them marked up to $800
Haha 2 years later and now they're about 900 + if you're lucky enough to find one
@@kspec6131 I am seeing some on gun broker going for over a grand. Found one new in pawnshop yesterday for 669
Awesome review vid. Thank you. If you had one with the nylon buffer would you recommend getting a replacement spring with the combo buffer?
Yes absolutely. It makes a big difference.
Thank you!
if you have had the V1 is their any differences from the V3
Since you have a few p30’s like I do, do you notice any differences between the date codes over the years from the early ones until the ones today? With regard to quality control, etc? I have ones from 2012, 2016, 2021.
The finish is different for sure. The older finish seems to be better? but I don't have long term use/testing on the new guns. But they do look different. Fit and quality seems to be the same.
@@navyman8903
Seems like it. Weird. Oh well.
Really want a P30, but it's difficult to decide, one with a safety or one without a safety.
Pro-Gun Social Nationalist always without safety
Hi DevilDoblin,
I really like your videos.
I'm going to start IPSC and are considering either the P30LS tactical or the USP 9mm tactical. If you only had these two guns to choose from which one would you recommend and why? Also, i'm a lefthanded shooter.
As a lefty and in general I would recommend the P30L 9mm in V1 (Light LEM) so you can use it to compete. The SA reset is a little sloppy, but everything else on the gun is perfect. It also shoots flat as hell. Great shooting gun, and it's damn near perfect. If the trigger was slightly better, everyone would own one.
Thank you so much for your advice:-)
Anybody know where I can find a V1? Or do most prefer the v3
Are the rails metal? Another video claims they are polymer?
Please advise as I am interested in this pistol but metal vs. plastic could be a deal breaker.
Regards,
GL
Polymer overmolded steel
I wish I could attain one here in California
It's definitely an uphill struggle for you over there, but it is possible for 3 to 4x the price sadly. Hopefully your gun roster gets struck down.
@@navyman8903 yeah wishful thinking
Sr if you need to pick up between hk p30 and vp9 what would be your choos
Any HK enthusiast will have the same answer as myself.
Both.
Is it illegal to own a 15 ammo mag in California?
Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of getting a P30LS. My only reservation is if I will be comfortable or not with the thumb safety. I shoot 1911s with thumb forward style with the shooting hand thumb on top of the safety. Do you feel comfortable with this pistol's thumb safety? Do you think thumb on top of the safety while shooting a good idea for this pistol?
I got a HK 45 which I think is quite similiar in size to the P30LS. I have medium sized hands and I cant even really place my right thumb on the safety on the HK45, it rests well on the back/start side of my left thumb. My left thumb rests on the logo in front of the slide release. For reference, on a 1911 my right thumb rides ontop of the safey and rests on the same spot on my left thumb's back, with my left thumb forward at the slide release slot.
why are your fingers on the slide?
My future strap🔫
Body heat?
Looking to this as a first time firearm purchase for home defense. Any tips on maintenance or really anything in general?
Also, saw this and was looking into it before I found out about its use in John Wick.
I highly recommend the P30L, it's a great all around gun. I would also try to work in at some point a Surefire X300UB 1000 lumen flash light. But honestly when you get it, pick up some 124gr ammo when you go to break it in. The Nato pressure stuff works best. By winchester or MEN or one of those reliable ammo manufacturers. You'll love how smooth it fires 124 +p ammo. The trigger is very stiff when you first get it but it smooths out over time. It started as a gun I wasn't sure about but now I love it and wouldn't be without it.
@@navyman8903 Why the 124 gr ammo for break in? Just asking because I just purchased this tool and love to take care of my firearms. Thanks.
@@defmc1 The recoil springs are calibrated for 124 NATO pressure stuff essentially. So you'll need to fire about 500 rounds ish to break the recoil spring in. Once you get it there you can run anything. But you'll need some hotter stuff for a little while. The Winchester 124 NATO works well for that task.
@@navyman8903 Thank you sir. Subscribed.
Are the mag release paddles polymer or metal? I like how they are larger than the USP paddle.
Polymer
@ defmc1 Thank you
17 rounds now.
Does it hurt your thumb gripping it like that? I never seen a grip like that...
I think he and I use the same grip. My thumb rides and presses down on the safety while shooting, and my other thumb presses against the slide, usually on the take down lever as a "memory" spot. I love this grip and it works well with MP's w/ safety and 1911s. The normal HKs have the decocker in the safety and it causes issues for me. I love the grip style, I draw and press down on the safety while drawing. I have never "hurt" my thumb on the safety, but my support hand thumb has been cut riding against a 1911 slide before.
It doesn't. My thumb is at rest there, and it doesn't mess with it. I've found trying to point your thumb in an un-ergonomic way takes away from accuracy. I am locked up that way, and my stubby little WOP thumbs don't get too far in the way. I will say with the P320 I have to move it sometimes. Those forward serrations are serious business the way they're cut. But that's the only gun like that for me so far. Whatever helps me center punch the targets better.
The slide finish on that gun will look the same in 40 years...LOL
I have a question that i think only you can answer. Can i put a P30 barrel into a P30sk? For a longer barrel for range use is my thought. I am going to get a treaded barrel for that reason but it started making me think. Let me know you thoughts. Thanks 😉
I don't think you can because of the barrel lug, but let me check and get back to you. I have seen a few out in the wild online, I think you might want to check that option out first if you can find one. I'll start looking that way as well.
@@navyman8903 awesome!!! thanks for your help!!! it would be so cool if it works. ;)
just bought one of these last month. i have about a hundred rounds through it with about 7 failures. using 115 gr. i’ve read you have to run 124 nato through it. currently letting it sit in my safe with the slide open and will try 124 gr ammo. can anyone verify this is likely the problem? the gun is clean and oiled well without over lubrication
I had the exact same issue with my p30l when it was brand new. It just needed to be broken. I had a few failures to extract because I was running standard 115 grain. When I ran 124 grain it did not have one issue. After about 75 rounds of the 124 it broken. Now it will feed 115 grain with no issues at all. Although now I prefer 124 grain to the 115 grain. The manufacturer recommend 124 grain + P ammo. But it will chew through just about anything I run through it at this point with no problems.
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What’s the difference between the p30l and p30ls v3
The s in p30ls is the ambi safety and v3 stands for the version of trigger system.
What holster do you use for it?
I have a few. I would recommend a G code incog for the P30 which will also fit the L with a tiny bit of the muzzle sticking out. There are other custom order options.
Are the VP9's Magazines the same and compatible with the P30L?
yes
One of the big benefits of having both guns. The VP and HK45 are descendants of the P30 series.
They are
I’m sorry to correct you but the P30L is not a GAP gun. It’s the best of the USP and the P series combined. It truly is a phenomenal battle weapon !!
Ps mine does not have the safety. Not needed with heavy first shot being double action and the decock is flawless.
What makes it a V3 ? Is it the ambi safety ?
V3 for the P2000/P30 series is a double action/single action with a decocker. This is a V3 S model because it is equipped with the safety.
So are you going to build a John Wick gun?
Yes, next is a match weight and a set of Trijicon HD's.
Idk how his thumbs are not shredded. Id tighten and square away that grip.
Wanted one of these but my local got the 40. Not for me, tried that 40 route in the 90's and decided there is no in between caliber , it's either 9 or 45 period. So you can carry what ever you want as a duty gun or are you given an accepted models list to pick from?
I have to carry the M11 on duty, the old school 13 round top extractor M11. Not the M11-A1. I don't have any other options, but when we switch over I'll be carrying the P320c. I wish I could carry my VP9 to be honest. But that's not in the cards. Off duty is a different story of course. And I had my time with the 40, I will say I could never find my preferred load with it like I could with the 9mm and 45acp. I don't bag on guys who run it, but I don't recommend it to people looking to get into a handgun and I don't use it personally.
Thanks for sharing sir. With old age and arthritis progressing at a scary pace I've since stopped my 45 shooting. It's just to unforgiving on my joints. When I put in a serious range day of 700-1000 rounds as I love to do, It takes a couple days for the discomfort to go away and get full dexterity back. It's a fact of life and a shame...my all time favorite round is 45LC followed by 45ACP. Adapt and survive my friend.. lol
HardTarget I had one 40 will never go back.
.40SW is good but it is all business and is unnecessarily hard on guns. I would say the same for 10mm and .357 Auto.
@Scott McClellan Because you own one. Ok.
Having a safety on a gun with a decocker on the back is so "because of California/NY/Mass".
the only question is, did that chick at the range drop her jaw when she saw your "long slide"? P30 I mean..
HAHAHAH Well played.