Grayguns P30 trigger pefection
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2017
- This is the Grayguns trigger upgrade for the HK P30 V1 Light LEM. It is one of, if not the best trigger I've ever felt on a handgun, especially a non-1911.
It's called the "Heckler & Koch Reduced Reset Carry Perfection Package" on their website. They delivered as promised.
Amazing work from an easy to deal with company, highly recommended. - Sport
Great video, P30 V2 LEM 40 cal. Owner Absolutely love my HK , will be checking out Gray Guns, thank you for sharing
Nice vid, about time someone shows what everyone wants to see
Love my P30 Light LEM. This is nice
thanks for the vid. they have mine there now. said 6-8 weeks. i hope mine is nice like that. my only p2000 LEM complaint was the reset.
Did you get it back?
Sweet thanks you for the Greyguns recommendation.
I have my LEM pull at around 2lbs 9oz. My own springs, GG SRS and flat trigger, installed at home.
And that’s awesome my only downside on the p30 lem was the long reset and not being able to shoot super quick …but looks like you made it bout 50% better nice
So how much of a difference is this vs getting their trigger reset kit and doing it yourself? I was just looking at that and their flat trigger but all those nice shiny internals you got there have me rethinking lol.
Awesome vid , definitely sending to Grays gun when I get my P30 L LEM
MARK ROGERS thanks for the comment man, it's worth it
Great trigger. Installed my kit last week and it is awesome!
You did it your self ? Is it reliable, since its been a year ... ?
@@denis3208 Yes I did it myself. Little tricky but if you’re handy it shouldn’t be a problem and it’s worked great ever since. Make sure you have the proper tools and it makes it way easier.
@@lakerrob5514 that's nice, I'm not really good with hands so I'd take it to an armorer when I get one, but I've been wondering if its possible. It looks super fun to shoot it 😀
@@denis3208 it is really light, like night and day. Definitely should have it done. Good luck
@@lakerrob5514what tools were required to install the short reset kit? I have the flat trigger and already installed it with minimal fuss but the short reset has me worried lol
Love the video and I appreciate the time you spent doing it. Your excitement jumped out the video.
The reason it was a 7 pound trigger was because you have a V3 the V1 comes with a 4.5 trigger pull. I currently have one. The gray guns package is meant to reduce the trigger reset as you discussed. However it’s good to know if you have the V3 it also reduces the 7 pound trigger weight
You mentioned that it is now way better than your buddies Gen 5 Glock...of course it is. :) I have a Gen5 Model 45 and the triggers still suck the big one, as they always have. I put the Gray guns flat trigger on my P30L, along with the reset reduction kit, and I love it. Makes the double-action shot much easier. Definitely no 1911 trigger, but as good as it gets otherwise.
how would you compare this with the V3? Have HK taken onboard the benefits of the boron coating and improved their factory offering to negate the need for the Grayguns trigger upgrade?
I’m buying a P30L LEM as soon as it’s in stock. My question is does your trigger now feel like a full time / constant single action trigger?
Great now I have decide to send either the p30 or the usp
I think Maximus needs to hold more guns. I have had two trigger jobs from Grayguns, and I just received my second back on a P30L LEM. This video is hyped quite a bit, because while I am happy with my trigger job, the break fails short of the three Kris Sphinx pistols I have owned, and my Walther PPQ with an APEX trigger has a shorter reset and a lighter trigger than my P30 LEM after the Grayguns trigger job. I am not saying Grayguns does not do good work, or that I am not happy with my P30 LEM, but most gun owners will not feel the work is worth the $395. Listening to this video makes it sound like a Grayguns trigger on an HK is the holy grail of triggers, which it is not. If you want the best trigger, get a striker fired PPQ with the APEX trigger, or even get a HK VP9 which is quite good in it's own right (I have one of these too). If you like a hammer fired pistol, then get a Sphinx or an HK P30, but know the stock HK trigger will definitely need work. Want the best of both worlds? Then get a P30 with the LEM CH V4.1 kit, and have Grayguns put all the parts in. Just remember to ALWAYS get a MEDIUM or HEAVY TRS trigger rebound spring, or else your trigger will be slow to reset.
Did Gray Guns also do the v4.1 CDA conversion?
What light do you have on there?
Brilliant trigger job. I always passed over these guns because of the triggers. I did a trigger job on my PPQ which made it amazing, but this looks like it might be better than mine. The cost is pretty steep though.
The Triggerati ya, it's expensive, but really fun haha. And now HK parts offers a drop in reduced takeup part for this trigger which just reduces that initial "safety" takeup.. pretty epic
That's good to know. Thank you! I just got a response from John over at Active Self Protection and he said he's getting his SK done at Greyguns as well. HK makes such amazing high quality guns, but I've always disliked the triggers. This is really exciting. It's almost like a new brand for me to explore.
The Triggerati oh ya, it's quite a unique system with all the upgrades you can do.
I agree, it was mediocre stock, but now it's the nicest trigger by far, including against my p10c
I can tell from the video that it is superior, which is impressive by itself. I can't wait to get one.
You have a USP with this system by any chance?
Can I do this to my p30sk light lem ?
I just bought a hkp30 vp1. I want to send it in to gray guns to have this done. How do I do that? I live in Pennsylvania.
Hk are the most beautiful gun I’ve ever seen . Did you mail this out to your personal gun smith or to gray guns themselves?
Looks like my P226 Legion factory trigger lol. How much was that job
How much was the upgrade?
what holster do you run appendix I just bought a hk p30 and was wondering which to go with.
Axis slim by tier 1 concealment or t5 custom kydex hitchhiker
Thanks for the video. Do you prefer your P30 over the VP9?
the p30 LEM with the grayguns upgrade is a much better gun if you plan to have just 1 gun and mainly shoot that gun. it takes a little getting used to with its unique trigger system but once you do, its way better. the vp9 is easier to be good with right away. so it depends if you want to just pick a gun up and shoot it and maybe carry other guns too or if you focus most of your time focusing on one gun.
p30 is also more money, if that sort of thing matters to you?
I own a HK P30L V1 Light LEM 40 cal. How much of a difference is there between getting a gray guns short reset and straight trigger and getting done what you have???
Not ANYWHERE near enough to justify the ridiculous price. Kraut engineering is great. It's a great pistol. Keep your money.
Didn’t you switch to a striker fired platform?
Great review. Love mine.
Yes I typically carry striker fired guns, not because the triggers are better but because they are more consistent and I like to carry multiple guns.
I mentioned in the video, this is an amazing trigger and better than any of my striker fired guns but it's very unique so unless you only shoot this trigger or at least the vast majority, it's tough to get very good with it.
It's easy to be good with a striker trigger though and they all transfer between each other even if some are better than others.
Hope that clears up what your question
Sweet gun wish it was the size of the p2000 just to big for carry
i have the VP9 and i think ill be have them do my trigger
I have 2 P30’s a P30 .40 V3 and a P30L 9mm V1, For My EDC I use the P30 .40 V3 (just picked up the p30L V1 light LEM) I was planning on going thru quite a few rounds and possibly sending it to Lazy Wolf for a trigger job that costs almost as much as the firearm and god knows how long of a wait, 4-6 months? And get into some local compition shooting. I know Rick Holm used to do the HnK’s at gray guns, not quite sure when you got yours done if he did it, but I see his name the most for trigger jobs being done right and reliable.. It was drilled in my head NEVER modify the trigger on your carry gun. What’s are your thoughts? On gray guns currently, and given criminal justice systems in the United States and Civil Court System can be very brutal and uneducated if a situation ever did happen where you needed to pull your trigger on a modified firearm. Another example, a Mark 23 would be a poor choice for CC for several reasons, as it’s very large, (for most longer to draw) and even tho in some aspects it’s close to several “defensive” guns, the fact that it’s labled an “offensive” weapon, they would try and eat you alive in court, even if your actions were 1000% justifiable just my opinion. I also live in IL, not Texas lol
It's perfectly fine to customize your carry gun however you see fit.
If you do your research properly, you will see that any argument about the type of gun or caliber used was NEVER a lead argument and never had any bearing on the outcome of the case.
It's just something they can throw into their case if you already have done very sketchy shit and have fact based evidence against you.
The only thing you shouldn't do is make a gun not drop safe or make a trigger so light you might set one off by accident.
Other than that, carry whatever you want, in any caliber you want, with any paint scheme you want, with any trigger you want.
For someone who recently purchased a HK P30 SK V3, I cant afford to dish out another $400. What do u recommend to get a trigger reset but at an affordable price?
You can buy only the control latch for $85 that is the part that affects the reset (other than whatever they do about the over travel).
grayguns.com/product/hk-p30-p2000-short-reset-system-without-thumb-safety/
Also while you are in there replacing the flat spring with the plated one is supposed to smooth it out a bit and make it less gritty.
us.hkwebshop.com/hkstorefront/hk/en/Handgun-Parts/Frame-Parts/Nickel-Flat-Spring/p/215691
you could also lighten the main spring etc. as well...
I’m going to have to send my USP9c for this
How has reliability been post-trigger job
Einsatzgruppen Commander just took it through a pistol class, zero issues. Gun is rock solid.
Ever read any difference between the Grayguns vs Lazy wolf?
Edit - Answer is they are same.
Lazy Wolf looks more expensive
did they take off the decocker?
No, it's the HK LEM trigger. I have a video explaining it if you are unfamiliar.
What light is that ?
Inforce aplc
I have this gun, awesome 👍 but check out Walther PDP factory trigger you will be shocked
so .. he just cut the internal parts or he change it for other .. ...??
Yanel Echemendia Cabrera I believe they have some modified parts and some completely custom parts to achieve this.
Maximus Joseppi thank ... sound nice for me
Maximus Joseppi Sr if you need to pick up between hk p30 p 30 L and vp9 what would be your choos
Yanel Echemendia Cabrera so I just ran both the p30 and vp9 through a training course back to back. I can tell you that the vp9 is easier to be good with but the p30 with the grey guns upgraded LEM trigger could be better if you trained with it a lot.
So if you want to just grip it and rip it, vp9. If you want to get technical and devote most of your time to training with one gun, the p30.
But only if you got the greygun upgrade, if both are stock, I'd take a vp9. The trigger is just much better on the vp9 not to take. But again, greyguns makes the p30 trigger better but it's almost 500 bucks..
Maximus Joseppi that was super good for me .. thank you sooo muchh
400 for a trigger job, wow.
IMO that's crazy, a buddy spent $900 on his P30, I spent $750 for my P30LS V3 law enforcement package, extra mags and night sights and I still wouldn't put another $400 into and wait anywhere between 4-8 weeks it when I can put $100 into the kit, get it within a week and do the work myself. Yeah it voids the warranty but I'm halfway through the HK armorers course so I'm not worried about it, I work on all my guns. I mean if this guy wants to spend the money and is happy that's all that matters, it's his to part with, I will say Gray Guns does have good parts and services even though they are expensive. Same for the Sig SRT kit, Sig OEM kit is $45 and the Gray Guns kit is $99...go figure. I put a Gray Guns straight trigger and competition spring kit on my Sig MK25 and if your the least bit mechanically inclined and a gun guy you can install it yourself pretty easily...at least I thought it was easy and it does make a difference. The straight trigger for P-series Sig's is adjustable for pre and over travel and with the SRT kit it makes for the best DA/SA trigger there is on a Sig other than Legion series but those are Gray Guns triggers anyway on Legions. IDK about Armory Craft adjustable straight triggers but I didn't like the way they looked. The Gray Guns trigger on the P320 X-Carry and X5 are straight and the best striker fired trigger out of the box I've ever felt. Wether you spend more to send it to them or less and do the work yourself, you can't go wrong with Gray Guns service or products.
He wanted it done professionally and was willing to get it done for the price.
Actually, Grayguns now sells a drop in Short Reset trigger kit for only 99.00. I had my local gunsmith install it for 75.00 and the results are IMO nearly just as good as sending it in for the full trigger job by them. Check it out... Took 3 days to receive it in the mail, and my gunsmith did it in about 2 days.... Much faster and better bang for your buck.
I did the same thing with my p30. I bought the kit on sale from Grayguns and my gun smith did the labor for $30. Got the gun back in 2 days. I hear Grayguns keeps your gun forever. Waiting kills my soul.
So all those nickel boron trigger internals is worthless? Is it just for ease of cleaning or does it make the trigger feel better? I’m about to buy my p30sks v3 this weekend and I want the best upgrade to the trigger as possible.
how about give a link? :) my p30 trigger is really shitty, like guide my index finger to the moon.. need get it replaced... how can HK have such design? and still in market?
German police forces keep buying them because they don't trust their officers not to drop them. It doesn't sell well here in the US, outside of the crowd looking for the "John Wick" P30L that he used in the first movie.
355.00? Is it really worth it?
mmm not really, sort of. depends if you love your p30 and its your go to. if its your main gun, ya, its pretty nice.
NO.
I have the P30 with the safety lever and I only got it with the safety because it was my first gun years ago and I didn’t feel like I was ready for a gun without one. I just ordered the trigger kit from Grayguns and had it installed and I paid like $120 for the parts and labor total and I can already see a huge difference. I was too skeptical in doing the full on upgrade like you did because I wasn’t going to put anymore money into this gun since the stock trigger is dog shit. I was going to sell my p30 but glad I didn’t. Is there a way that you know of to remove the safety levers or get smaller ones? I hate how much the levers stick out. Bulky pieces of shit. I just don’t think it’s worth losing money by selling it and buying the V1.
How does the trigger job make the gun recoil less? When you made that claim your credibility went out the window
hahaha i never said that. watch the video a few more times, youll understand eventually.
Dam I thought the lem trigger sucked until I saw this video.
so it's an PPQ TRIGGER NOW
star child much better.
Imagine spending extra for a DAO gun, then spending more money to make the trigger more like a striker-fire action. Pro Tip: LEM is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. If you want a consistent, light, trigger buy a VP9. If you understand why DA/SA exists, buy a P30v3.
Dylan Bond hahaha imagine having a brain and then using it?
Nope, didn't think so ROFL
This gun is 10x better than a vp9 and other striker fired pistols, try again kiddo.
Imagine wanting the ability to have a first round trigger break like a striker fire and still have second strike capability of hammer fire. Oh wait, that's what the LEM gives you!
$400+ for a trigger job. HK makes there stuff that way for a reason. What a dope you are to pay that much
Mans got money, some people buy own 3 pistols, some might own 1 upgraded pistol
You smell poor. Get away from me stinky
Yeah, I'm gonna pay 400 bucks for a slightly better reset. SUCKERS. The Germans build a hell of a weapon. Don't waste your money, just practice. The factory trigger (LEM or DA/SA) is fine.