Are We Getting a Cybertruck Soon?
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2023
- In this clip, Marques and David discuss Tesla opening up its chargers to a number of other manufacturers! Plus, they bet whether or not the Cybertruck will come out this year.
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Cybertruck talk starts at 7:53
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For real, who came up with the title didn't do the editing...
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@@AviSpira the starting information is really important
@@tiky7 not if you already know it ;)
Europe uses CCS2. The U.S. was stuck on CCS1. They are completely different
I wish they would inform themselves more on EVs. Love Marques’s content, but this is why I’m not the biggest fan of when they discuss EVs. They get too many things wrong on them. Granted, this could be seen as my fault since I’m so into EVs lmao
@@waynelewis9110 Agreed, this whole conversation was hard to listen to
@@waynelewis9110They’ve done videos touring US charging station availability. It was a pretty clear result that’s been repeated many times in the US.
@@SpaceJazz3K That was a great video, but I wasn’t referring to that specifically. I was referring to things like them not acknowledging/sharing that while non-Tesla EVs in the US currently use CCS1, EVs in Europe do not use CCS1. They use CCS2, just as OP stated. The unknowing who watched/listen to this podcast would think otherwise due to their not knowing/sharing this. And there are quite a few other examples too.
Home power delivery is completely different in the EU. The EU CCS2 also has no clip on the handle which is superior.
Cybertruck is coming out this year. The only question is does it come out this quarter or Q4?
Exactly.
Yep and watch, it will be about 55k for mid-range model.
Never
@@JacksonDreyer First production unit came out before you said this less than 24 hours ago. Where you at in space-time bro?
The gang is clueless on Tesla Cybertruck 😂
Former Tesla Model 3 Performance, current Rivian R1S owner here. Totally agreed. I can roadtrip with the Rivian, but literally the only concern I had leaving Tesla was losing the Supercharger network. And that concern was justified when I started running into issues with EA. When the 2025 R1S is available for purchase with an integrated NACS, I will happily trade in my current R1S for it.
Is your net worth above 1 mil?
i think it’s worth noting that rivian will give you an adapter for your current car once they start being rolled out
the magic dock is slowly rolling out to all superchargers anyway. the magic dock lets you plug into both ccs and nacs ports, so hopefully that fixes your issue!
Everyone always forgets to mention that the first one to be approved to use the NACS was Aptera. I know they aren’t actually delivering vehicles yet, but they were the catalyst that made it seem like this was possible. And they were the ones who lobbied for it to potentially be a thing.
That's all true, but it's also completely insignificant. Aptera with no production capabilities, no cars on the road and no market share is nobody with no weight and no impact on anything. I would even say that 99% of people don't even know who or what Aptera is (it's not hate, it's just reality).
The real catalyst was Ford and giving credit to Aptera is nonsense. As you said, Aptera lobbied for this for years and nothing happened. But the moment Ford made the decision things actually started to move.
So it's nice from Aptera supporting this years before, but it has nothing to do with the real changes and progress we see these days.
@@MrRandomguyTomagreed. Aptera is cool but no one has a clue who that is. Ford announcement really started it. GM had to follow suit or they would lose marker share. Aptera had nothing to do with it. Lol
Aptera is a science experiment.
They may be behind on the culture war, but in this case Aptera deserves some credit for their lobbying. Ford never could have adopted the standard if Aptera didn't have the vision and spend the last couple years making it an open standard.
@@randomcomment9984 some credit = minimal, almost zero. I highly doubt that giants like Ford make decisions based on what small companies, like Aptera, do.
Again, it's nice from Aptera for supporting or starting this change on paper, but the reality is different.
Marques is the only one in this video that has a reasonable perspective on Tesla.
my gosh the others have no informed opinion… no context..
They been eating Mainstream media FUD about Tesla.
even then, it appears like he lacks knowledge on the subject. He keeps saying others make better EVs than Tesla but per dollar, there is not one company with a better EV than Tesla overall
"Reasonable"
@@jorgeavelar98 excluding charging network, there is plenty better EVs than Tesla depending on your priorities.
will be unveiled before September 1. over 2500 delivered by end of year, less than 5000 overall. Next year will be insane level of production ramp, like model Y in 2020. The production/assembly is way further along than what your assuming. Recent pictures even show part bin to line shots from Texas along with a lot more line progress from there q2 shots in May. Be ready to see to HIghland (refresh model 3) and Cybertruck most likely at same event, and before September 1.
Nope lol
@@wyattnoiseJuly end of this month you think?
@@wyattnoise first production truck just came off the line 👀
Might want to go to Mr Austin Ferguson for a better timeline of Cybertruck deliveries
One or the other, not both.
@@inkisblackiswhiteis1 nope.
Considering that the cumulative inflation since unveiling of the Cybertruck was around 20%, if the CT comes out costing 48k USD it will mean its effective price didn't go up at all. Also, i just hate those discussions on Tesla and delays in semi and Cybertruck, where they completely ignore that in the meantime the was a pandemic and a war of global consequences which messed up supply chains resulting in higher prices of everything and great shortages. Other car companies decreased the number of cars sold and jacked up prices and Tesla did the opposite, they increased the production by 50% each year and are now lowering the prices. Criticizing FSD being late despite Elon multiple promises is fine in my book, criticizing delays in completely new product lines while disregarding global events that took place in the mean time is just being unfair.
They also didn't expect quite this much demand for existing vehicles. Model Y is the best selling vehicle worldwide this year. No reason to grow model count until needed
Agreed!
Didn't Musk say "Coronvirus virus is dumb" or reopened his factory and continue with promises and didn't deliver them as promised again?
@@thomasreese2816Elon was very clear when he said “model Y will out sale any car in their lineup and in the world, it’s just that good.”
@@Model3dudeut it's easy to have big numbers when you sell only 4 models. For example VW is selling 16 models (counting only non commercial vehicles) in EU where I live and even more worldwide.
Sure, Model Y is selling very, very good, but the "best selling car in the world" can be little bit misleading.
I feel like we're in a different situation in Canada - well Quebec at least. We have such a robust public charging network (called Electric Circuit if you're curious) and it would seem like a massive job to switch from CCS to NACS.
I'm convinced we have more of those than Tesla chargers in the province.
CCS2 in Europe is very different to CCS1
MKBHD is smart and has some insight into cars. The other guys have no clue about the car industry and its development cycles, phases etc... Why would Tesla focus on the roadster now? That was as if Apple had solely focused on the Apple Watch Edition at launch...
So why announcing it at all when you already know you won't focus on it or won't build it at all? Or is Tesla so short sighted?
I think Tesla keeps inventing new technology and deciding that it has to go into the roadster, so that keeps pushing the production date further along. A lot of the Cybertruck technology such as drive by wire - electric brakes (no hydraulics), variable steering, etc., will go into the roadster.
(Though I’m not seeing this variable steering yet in the Cybertruck.)
@@ThomasKelly. all this is old technology and I'm pretty sure you are wrong about the brakes.
Marques won the bet!
I'm on the %100 its shipping this year side. Im actually kind of surprised at the lack of knowledge on Tesla news.
CyberTruck delivery event this year was announced at investor day. As well at the same event the Roadster was asked about and Elon confirmed that while it is 'The Cherry on Top' vehical, that it is being activly worked on and will be coming. Right after that investor day they re opened reservations with a heafty deposit, I think to get a real feel for demand.
I'll bet you as much money as you would like to lose that cybertruck does not release this year.
@@wyattnoisedelivery event at the end of Q3 2023. I'll bet you a cybertruck that it happens
CT is definitely coming out this year.
@@MainStageSniping oh, so you've had multiple reserved all these years?
@@wyattnoise gonna bookmark this.
The production Started!!
Technology connections is one of the best channels right now
Can't believe no one has came back to comment this.. but wow @12:05 Marques was the only one who bet they will start shipping and he won!
Who else is here after Tesla has started the production just in time before 2024
Cybertruck is coming this year for sure. I'm with you Marques.
Probably like 10 of them though. Really will ramp next year though.
Looking at other models once a vehicle is sent to New Zealand for winter testing it’s not long after for the delivery event. Which happened for Cybertruck recently.
16:43 can you remove that button from the soundboard? I get blue screens a lot in this confused me.
It’s not the same thing as what Rivian did. They already had prices to their customers and tried to change it. Quite different
I recently completed a road trip from Minnesota to Key West FL, round trip, in a Rivian R1S. It was awesome. The charging was flawless on non-Tesla chargers. While some chargers were non-functional, there was always a working alternative. As long as the Tesla charger design becomes a true open standard, this would be a good change. However most of the places I would like to see charging station (rural and adventure areas), Tesla currently doesn’t have any chargers either, so my reaction to Rivian moving to this was pretty “meh”. I really want to see Rivian deriving on their RAN promise, which is to put chargers to let you get to some off-road and National park adventures.
the technology connections "shoutout" had me rolling omg.
Technology connections should be a guest. Still find the sunbeam toaster video mesmerizing.
$40k in November 2019 adjusted for inflation is $47.3k today.
Marques definitely going to win the bet. Cybertruck will start delivery by this year for sure and today they unveiled the first production vehicle.
7:58 welp, only took 8 days from this video 😂😂😂😂😂❤️
They keep talking about the licensing fees Tesla gets for NACS, but what’s their source on that? All I read was that no licensing fees will be paid for NACS…
I don't think car companies add NACS automatically get access to tesla superchargers. The port is an open standard, tesla superchargers are not. They have to work out a deal with tesla if they want to have their cars use superchargers. Most likely they will continue to build out their own chargers but swap out the CSS1 plug for NACS. At some point Tesla might open their chargers to everyone but I somehow doubt it.
Tesla will keep many for Tesla only which I think will cause confusion. Long term they will open because a busy charger makes money.
Tesla is the one that developed and named the port. It's not a "standard" anything. They purposely named it what they did to make it more palatable for competitors to adopt without embarrassment
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014It's currently in the process of being formally standardized by SAE International
@@jjbarajas5341
Yes, they showed up late to the party and accepted what Tesla created as a standard.
The Model 3 is ~32k depending on incentives . 40k for cyber truck wont be for a couple of years and with inflation it will be closter to 50k
Inflation is not necessarily a valid point. The other models dropped to the same price as the they were listed in 2019. It might be a little more for extra features but may not be dramatically more. Price of materials dropped dramatically and they got a lot better at manufacturing in the last 4 years
Dude where is the M3 for $32K
@@aguilacahc000 California if you make less then 225k per year
@@jarrodvsinclairis it even possible to earn below the income threshold to qualify for the incentives while also earn high enough to take advantage of the full credit amounts?
Model Y was released early btw
finally these two make podcast much better
I really appreciate that Marques makes a statement, the others give there takes ... and he will actually adjust and/or support their arguments. Wild to hear new information or takes and actually adjust your opinions.
Which song is at outro ?
It is important to note that NACS is being standardized by SAE. It's going to be open source, and companies won't need to license it from Tesla.
they never had to license it..
They will still need a deal to use Tesla Superchargers though.
Tesla both invented and named the plug. The SAE is showing up AFTER THE FACT because Tesla gives away their patents for free because their competitors are lazy schtoopyd trash that are years behind and couldn't catch up if they exactly duplicated Teslas processes
The people mostly affected are Tesla owners who live in apartments and condos and rely only superchargers. Road trips shouldn’t be a problem at least in California. Most chargers I’ve encountered during road trips are the 250kw speed and usually at least 40 stalls per location.
When are we getting the threads video
You guys made a pretty good point on how hard it is to road trip on CCS. I’m currently on a 40-day, 6,000 mile road trip with both a Tesla and a Rivian and the Rivian is NOT having a great time charging…video coming soon.
Marquez will be the right side on Cybertruck delivered in 2023. He gave valid reasons, while everyone else is biased from headlines.
I saw one of the Camo CyberTrucks around Stanford a few months ago. It was way bigger than I expected.
Using the CT prototypes for marketing would be an interesting strategy, but they're going to have to start selling them sooner rather than later to get capital flowing to allow them to continue operating (not that they're going broke, but having so much capital tied up into something is a very unbusiness thing to do.) If we're taking a poll I think Marques is right.
The Cybertruck lines are nothing compared to last year when they had two new factories they had to fund and China was intermittently shut down. They make billions every quarter in profit now. They're fine.
The whole Tesla business model is to use massive amount of capital to secure more investments. Shipping a few of them will get investors hyped again, and that's all Tesla thinks about
Yeah Elon's well known for being all about the advertising, not just releasing great products and letting them speak for themselves 😂 😂
Blows my mind how people could be so far off the mark with so much information available easily
@@bradhaaf4749especially considering many of us would actual like Tesla to start doing real advertising. But Elon isn't really a fan of that.
IGNORANT TAKE. Giga texas factory already has model Ys flowing out of it. Tesla as a company is putting 4 BILLION in pure cash profit into the bank PER QUARTER already and that number is rising. Furthermore CyberTruck is only 1.5 years late and that mostly had to do with THE PANDEMIC for then entire world shut down 3 months after CyberTruck was announced and the factory hadn’t even been build yet. The press machines for the cypertruck came from Italy a very hard hit place in terms of covid deaths and shutdowns
What's the laptop david´s using ?
I think HMG should build their own charging network. They should switch to NACS, but doing so just to get access to the Supercharger network doesn’t make any sense for them at this time (along with Porsche, Audi and Lucid) because of their 800+ volt architecture. Their cars would charge like molasses on the SC network, and if they were to announce their switch and that they’re gaining access to the SC network, there would be a giant flashing asterisk next to the announcement (*and charge at less than half the speed you’d get at a 1000V CCS charger). They should announce a switch to NACS and simultaneously unveil that they will be building a 1000V capable NACS charging network. They wouldn’t even have any competition.
Enjoyed the bloopers at the end. Very fun
As far as I understand the NACS just covers the physical design of the charger not the protocol. I also didn't find any mentions of licensing cost.
No, it's a complete standard including using CCS communication protocols in it. The older Teslas use a different communication protocols but newer can use both. Tesla superchargers ,as far as I know, need some updates software wise for it all to work fully.
7:55 Cybertruck discussion begins.
Yes, the industry is changing fast! This morning Mercedes committed to NACS. With that being said, other or current CCS networks adding the NACS connector doesn’t mean a thing of their uptime remains the same as they currently are. They HAVE to still work on their reliability!
kk
Yes! Love the shout-out to Technology Connections!
Rivian ended up keeping the price for preorder people though.
I’m curious if this influences the charge port location on future vehicles to prevent blocking parking.
Or they should just make the cable long enough to reach both sides, like it already works when pumping petrol or diesel lol. Not that hard to add like 3 feet to the cable length
@@britskaradiometeorograph8108 You cant compare it to a gas cable, longer cable will influence how fast it can charge.
Only thing I took out of this video is how insanely people are sleeping on Tesla
Technology Connections is getting a lot of shout outs, love it.
Don't forget about Technology Connextras!
"who's the guy that makes the 2 hour videos on toasters?"
Never in the history of CZcams has a more apt description of a channel been uttered. Source: the fact that everyone else in the room instantly knew who he was referring to
Good luck with fixing those tracks after collisions - solid piece of steel smth
Towed a Tesla employee earlier this month when the test mule he was driving got a flat. He told me in a year and a half there would be cybertrucks driving around.
9:42 I really thought my screen was broken because of the vertical line on the screen. You can see it over the MacBook next to the N logo.
Europe cannot use NACS, our 240v system is geared around 3 phase AC power, hence we use CCS2. Tesla did bring out a CCS2 that used the same pins for DC and AC, i believe it's limit is around 250kw charging... it is a neater plug but im pretty sure the power limit is too low. i cannot imagine it being possible to redesign NACS to support a 3 phase connection
They are not going to start with a Tri motor,
They will start with a quad motor, which would allow them to make it whatever price they want since it was not an option before.
Going to be $80k+ and will make 1,000 this year but only for employees
Spotted in NZ at snow farm for winter testing.
We hope you’re right Marques! ❤️
Deliveries will definitely start this year
Gotta love that we don't even talk about the cybertruck until half way into the video
MKB is about to win this bet.
When you consider some major marks have been hit. First, the presses for stamping out the bodies of the Cybertruck have been installed in Texas. Large test batches of various parts of the Cybertruck have been made. Franz von Holzhausen recently had the Cybertruck at the Petersen Museum in what looks like final form. There were Cybertrucks doing extreme weather testing have been spotted. The production line in Texas is mostly in place and being tested. Musk said the tradition is when a vehicle is basically ready to go into production, they drive it to the In-N-Out Burgers drive thru near Tesla. There is a video of one being driven through there.
Very good chance 10,000 units will be built this year. Do not believe it will ramp super fast just because you know there will be problems since this is such a new vehicle. Toyota has talked about how they start slow because problems are likely on the first batch. It is easier to recall less than 10,000 vehicles versus 100,000 or higher.
I get the guys are so jaded about Tesla release dates, but there is too much evidence that the Cybertruck is basically ready to go and it looks like September or October is going to be when deliver begins.
These people living under the rock and the talk about the topic they barely know.
Well said! 👏🏽
I don't think 10k but way more than they're saying here
Just one thing. The Petersen museum CT absolutely wasn't production model.
Also Elon said delivery event will be end of Q3 2023
what ppl often misunderstand about number of supercharger per EV numbers vs gas station for ICEs is the fact that ~98 99% of charging is done at home for most EV owners and super chargers are only done on long trips
Certain CCS chargers are higher voltage = faster charging. Only downside to Teslas is they are 250Kwh when some CCS (Electrify America) are 350 KWh. 2:57
4:04 Almost had a heart attack. I thought my screen was broken.
I see one of the hosts is using the Lenovo Yoga Book 9i, just curious as to why this was not covered or reviewed since its release. All the other tech youtubers have and I had wanted to see this channels take or at least MKBHD take which I value. I ended up purchasing this amazing device but it would be appreciated if they covered this.
im with MKB on this, this year it happens
Let's hope that as these car manufacturers convert to NACS that they put the port on the left rear corner of the vehicle so they can share the superchargers.
Tesla's port is way better designed
I don't doubt you. But, I still can't get over the fact that, USA govt/departments quietly just let a private company become the almost monopoly in the EV charging sector, instead of like EU telling Tesla to either optimize for the standard or share their tech with the market for all the tax payer money they keep getting. USA works on a different level of corporate dystopia :O
@@SettlingNomadsGovernment should not get involved with technology innovation. What if they made CDs the standard or micro usb.
Safety sure, environmental sure. Innovation no. Let the customers vote with their dollars and keep bureaucracy out of it
Edit: you are also extremely wrong on the monopoly comment when the patent is open for anyone to use
@@mikebalentine What patent? I'm talking about the fact that everyone will have to pay (companies a licensing fee and government will pay subsidies to Tesla and go to Tesla for charging instead of a level field for everyone to come to (aka a Standard).
How did customers vote in this situation? Tesla's been the market leader in EVs, so they got the infrastructure, now that the market is catching up, the leader has a monopoly in a very crucial aspect of the market. And monopolies are bad for any system. For example: Tesla can just refuse Chevy and affect their market share... ultimately making it worse for customers.
Also, funny you should say that, Government bodies have been far more innovative in the past 70 years than privately owned ones. Think NASA or all the research and experimental tech government pays for, all the grants government invests in individuals and small scale orgs, even the military research. and Corporations have known to use those innovations... but for profit. Which I'm not against. But, to say government =/= innovation is very short sighted :3
@@SettlingNomads the patent for the charge connector and port. Anyone can make them just like any company can make a usb-c cable.
People voted by buying Tesla making it the best selling cars in the world. Just recently the model y surpassed Toyota Corolla in volume which is half the price.
There is no monopoly your arguments are terrible.
Edit: the government is not innovative they pay other people. Also it’s hilarious you use NASA as an example when the technology in that case decreased. It was not until SpaceX that there was a leap in technology. The government will always be worse than private innovation. The government has two jobs. Ensure everyone plays by the same rules and to incentivize the direction they want in the form of taxing undesirable goods and tax breaks for desired direction.
@@mikebalentine Okay, dude, we are literally talking about the charging stations, Tesla's charging infrastructure just became the standard for most if not all Electric vehicles in USA indirectly. The government could have invested more in government infrastructure for charging and created an alternative to Tesla's or just could have told Tesla, "Hey, you want funding? then your charging infrastructure will be shared, or no subsidies for your broke ass", but they aren;t, so Tesla became the monopoly in those regards. You are literally not reading anything that is being said.
Dude, few people behind close doors made these decisions, the sale of cars is literally not a metric here. You're literally hallucinating rn. Doesn't matter if Tesla sells billion cars in a day, as long as there are other companies and (electric) cars in the market, one company cannot be allowed to own the means of their survival.
Yeah, okay. This guy said so, so it is.
In USA maybe, in other countries governments fund their own organization. India literally has a cost effective Space program that is a Public body (for now), SpaceX literally has people that learned at NASA, and still gets a lot from NASA and government fundings, which Elon Musk is utilizing and investing to make a company that he profits off of and the public doesn't. America is a corporate dystopia. And technology "decreased" at NASA because after the Space race ended, they stopped getting funding, because Politicians started focusing on other stupid shit (i.e. lighting the middle east on fire).
And no the governments have far more to do than just those 2 things. In this case they failed.
Btw, unrelated, but any chance you watch Rogan, Shapiro, Crowder, Peterson etc Just curious.
Cybertruck will be this year. I am guessing October will be the delivery event
Supercharging/DC fast charging is not like a going to gas station, because going to a gas station is essential to operate one's gas car all of the time. Most EV owners only use DC fast charging for road trips and charge at home the vast majority of the time. The quickest infrastructure that needs to be built is level 1/2 charging in apartment/condos to reduce & minimize the needed for fast charging for those residents. Fortunately, level 1/2 charging can easily be added to apartments and condos.
How can a truck be delivered when there has been no pricing structure released
I wonder if you've already bought an EV from a legacy auto maker, like a Mustang Mach-E, will you be able to swap out the actual port on the car to an NACS port. I feel like buying an adapter is just a temporary fix.
I am sitting here and the production started today I guess the bet is definitely won Elon always proves the haters wrong MKBHD is the best
Easy that Tesla starts CT before the end of this year. They’ll have a delivery event in September. Real deliveries will begin in October/November. Baring some disastrous battery bottleneck.. this will occur. Pricing will be interesting to see.. i seriously doubt it will be a 20k jump.. but 10K seems likely. 15k is not out of the realm of possibility.
Roadster is also absolutely coming. It could be 2025.. but 2024 is not out of the question yet. Will depend on how hard ramping production of CT goes. Which will mainly come down to 4680 production.
I bet delivery event is this fall.
Nacs is an open standard. That’s why they renamed it, and they don’t get any licensing for it. Maybe they get some money for access to the 12k super chargers but maybe not.
Technology connections owns the ioniq 5 himself
It’s DEFINITELY coming out :)
I have a few chargepoint stocks. Is this good or bad news for me?
Regarding Cybertruck, So interesting how uninformed these guys are yet an amazing confidence to comment on the subject.
SEZ U LULW
I dont think any pre-orders lock pricing at all for cybertruck
7:58 for when video title is actually addressed
7:57 for the actual title. Before that guys talking about 2025 charging nontesla cars on Tesla stations.
Those misleading title makes me sad.
It looks like Marques won the bet.
I agree with Marques!!
Looks like NACS will be the standard charger for the USA, Canada, South America, and maybe Australia.
Down the line, maybe Africa too.
The base lightning starts at $59k, I imagine that the Cybertruck will be around the same. I assume that it will cost from $55K-$90K
I believe the launch event will be in September
Would this be a good time to invest in Tesla stock?
4:11 had to skip the little man making fun of the 2hr long video which he watched 😂
Most people with homes, not apartments, for day-to-day commute do not need to charge outside homes, even so infrastructure is key.
Mercedes-Benz just announced this weekend that they are also joining the Tesla charging network and install NACS ports in 2025!
They are making like 30x Cybertrucks a week already and it's only August...
The gov money is only 7bn for charging networks. Tesla has 22bn in cash in the bank with an exponentially growing revenue stream each month.
Cybertruck deliveries will start this year, 100%.
it is so obvious, but these anti tesla sheeps are so blind
@@LARDinhoFCmaybe but it's more likely next year. Bro they said many times it's coming soon and delays are inevitable especially for a car that is trying to innovate and be new and different
We still haven’t got the roadster and that was announced before the cybertruck 😂
They openly said it's on the back burner, why are people still expecting it?
Model Y was announced after too. And we already have it
Roadster will be a small run vehicle. They are focused mainly on vehicles that will scale, and the Plaid already works as a halo car that can beat most hypercars
Yeah but roadster is like the last thing they’ll release I think
@@Gurulebecause they took money. Not a real excuse to have on the back burner
@@Random_dud31 get a refund
I think inflation should be part of the discussion when talking about CT prices from then to now
CT 100% coming q3-q4
FSD 80% by q4
I just hope FSD comes out and my stock doubles before I have to take money out to buy my Cybertruck 😂 following Tesla since 1st Roadster was a prototype and knowing FSD is about to come out and having to sell Tesla shares would make me cry.. there's no way I'd be willing to wait another 2-3 years in line for a Cybertruck 😂