Will Threads Kill Twitter?
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- In this clip, Marques tells Andrew and David what Threads is like seeing as he had early access to the app for a few days before anyone else did!
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For threads, give us a tab ONLY for people we follow and ONLY in chronological order. There's no way in hell I'm using it daily if it's tied to an unavoidable algorithm page
that's already confirmed to be on the roadmap
Seriously same
Without algorithm and promotion and ads, these platforms don't work. Even CZcams has a subscriptions tab, yet people stick with recommendations. Their algorithm's purpose is to make recommended indistinguishable with who you follow.
When the world stopped getting a chronological FB feed... Im convinced that that was the highest point of enjoyable, somewhat not totally unhealthy social media. That's the point in which all of these things around us started crumbling.
Welcome to the world of social media where they are trying to keep you on the app for as long as they can. If you don’t pay for the product, you are the product
I like how the fact Threads is still banned in the EU is just scoffed at like... Are people really so used nowadays that Meta will just profile you and sell your personal information that we are just... ok with that? Like I get that as YTers you are already publicly open and all that but you must know that this means something to your audience at least. This is a super worrying trend that needs to be discussed here.
Exactly! The way people have moved to acceptance of all their privacy being eradicated and sold on social media is outstanding.
I would rather have ads than pay for a service. twitter is becoming more and more unusable unless you pay. And the gdpr ban in EU is actually less about selling your data and more about how threads shares your information from instagram.
The answer is yes
I mean personally I run it in a sandboxed environment and give out as little information as possible, but I recognise that I'm in the minority
Does it though the illusion of privacy is over and I mean like it or not nothing you do online is private hell nowhere you go with your phone is private and it's been that way for decades now we don't have privacy we lost it for security and prosecution a long time ago at the turn of the century it just got worse and it's not coming back only false promises and privacy gimmicks that's our reality
And to some extent I think a lot of us just don't care anymore nothing I do is illegal and while ik they can maybe find out I'm a minority or got said illness and maybe they tell the gov and cut funding in my area at the end of the day these are kinda stretches and people are going to do malicious things weather or not we keep our business private it's up to our lawmakers and voters to punish bad actors but our privacy it's gone for good
This video did not age well
Escaping from Twitter by running to Meta send like the plot of a horror movie.
"Don't worry, you're safe now...bwa-HAHAHA!"
lol....
Perfect analogy 🤣
They want too much access "data from the user",and if you decide to delete the account you won't be able to,unless you delete your Instagram account
Ohhh damn this is bad
I don't think I'm ever using threads, because Twitter taught me that social media in general is pretty toxic to my mental health. I felt way better after I stopped using it and it never brought much positive besides a few things here and there.
same here
Agreed. I just deleted my FB and IG.
Same loooool I’m not even interested in creating an account, social media is a mess.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 people are sick of how Zuckerberg has changed social media with the algorithm, yet they are willing to download another app run by him 🤦🏻♀️
It’s just funny how he is trying to convince us that *Threads* won’t be like any other app… yeah, FOR NOW!! it will become another time waster with ads and threads we never asked for because all they want to do is to keep you on the app for as long as they can.
*if you don’t pay for the product, you are the product*
This
Two things I find with Threads, one is it has Facebook's interesting censoring aka "are you sure you wish to follow this person". The second is it is a separate mobile only app. For most people this probably isn't that big of a deal, but I don't use my phone when I'm on my laptop and don't really consume content on my phone. I could run the app in an emulator, but honestly, I'm not going to do that, other than for business reasons. I'll open a Thread account to advertise an upcoming project, but I cannot see myself using the app for my personal consumption of news and media updates.
And yet no one wants to talk about Elon’s blanket censorship blocking all news about competitors like Threads and BlueSky, and shoving his own tweets.
@@chhoyla I haven't seen this, I found out about Threads and got a beta invite on Twitter for it. I continue to get most of my information about Thread updates on Twitter. It could be true for other people, I can only speak for my experience.
i mean, every app launch always launch their MVP. they'll create a website eventually
@@echtogammut He can’t quell it all, but he doesn’t let it hit trending
@@blurey8569 That's very true, I always soft launch stuff on IOS first because it will have the fewest compatibility bugs. It's still annoying for my user flow, which I know isn't the norm anymore. I'm old so I'll take a 45" screen with a real keyboard over 6.5 and predictive text. :)
If it had better integration with Instagram, I'd probably end up using it more, because that is the only social mobile app I consistently use. I feel like they left a lot on the table in regards to Instagram, but it's still early so time will tell.
I think Threads is FB replacement more than Twitter killer
Doubt it- and only because people use Facebook for groups heavy. That point about threads having ‘people’ over other twitter alternatives is why I think Facebook is holding on by a…thread. It’s has a solid group presence
It doesn't even compete with fb
@zachbeall6810 well FB is fading away isn't it? So Meta knows it's going google plus way so instead of trying to revive it they built this which is bringing both twitter and Insta worlds together. That's just my thoughts I could be totally wrong.
@BrandonMoye all I see on fb these days is spam, reason why people aren't using it anymore as frequently. I don't like going there as I see more random spam posts than updates from my friends.
I've been thinking about where Threads fits into my whole digital diet and the answer I came to was shockingly similar to yours. If it's for pictures of 24 hour only stories, I have Instagram. If it's for following niche creators or having a space away from friends and family, it's Bluesky (and formerly Reddit). Threads I find fills that niche of where I just express myself in text form with the intention of it to be seen by both friends and family - exactly what I used to use Facebook for years ago.
I need another social network like I need another hole in my head. No thanks.
Usually new social media apps, generally have “new car smell”, I remember Facebook when it was new, it was fun place. But Threads honestly give me Google+ vibes. Sure they have allot of accounts, but so did Google+.
Now you've got me missing G+ 🫠
Exactly. Lots of accounts because it's easy to link from Instagram but how many are active, how many realise you can't just delete it later.
@@SeanFranchisesame lol
Google + forced people to make an account. At least with Threads, it's optional.
@@TheShapeshifter I don't think you were forced. It automatically existed because you had a Google account. Same with threads. If you're already on Instagram the "handle" already exists.
Threads is getting way too much promotion tbh. Are we just gonna ignore that Meta/ Facebook are not to be trusted? This is just another way for them to get their hands on your personal info and probably another bid to eventually drag you into their ecosystem and god forbid, the metaverse.
There's absolutely no way I'm using threads. I do not at all agree or want a world where all social media is under one company especially meta. I do find myself slightly excited with some of these "fediverse" alternatives. It feels like when I was young and the social media was new and fresh. Also a good time to take a step back and look at my social media use habits and know I need to slow down.
It's interesting that you guys left out the data mining part. I know everyone is doing it, but it's not allowed in EU because it collects lots more data than everybody else. As far as I understand it even collects health data. I tried to test it, but even with vpn I can not sign up, because it's not in our App Store. Anybody can confirm what kind of access it needs mandatory?
Meta is a super scummy company in this regard. I like Facebook and instagram at a base level but I refuse to use them because I don’t want to be the product for Facebook. I know all companies do this but Meta is far worse
For Threads on iOS Beta 17, there's a workaround to image posting. I copy and paste the photo I need, add my text and post. Works!
If you want a censored echo chamber, you use Threads.
Hilarious that you say that for threads and not Twitter when that is literally what Twitter is for most people
Exactly.. threads will be the snowflakes safe space 🤣
@@tenshukaku2830 Twitter has free speech so you aren't censored. I get plenty of left and right leaning people AND believe it or not... it isn't actually a hate storm which is surprising for Twitter. Twitter is in a much healthier spot and I have some hope restored for humanity lol. This is just my experience and maybe I am just lucky.
I don't get the Elon hate, and it seems like they are just misinformed. Also, I love that he spoke about getting away from a mega-corporation, while using a Chromebook... LMAO. Bruh.
I totally disagree that Twitter is more tech based, that just your feed because that’s what you follow and like. Even Twitter’s trends are still curated to your circles and interests
I don’t think he meant tech-based as in the content. He is referring to the infrastructure prowess of twitter when it comes to the efficiency of the platform and its ability to be enhanced with new features quickly.
I heard text based , not tech based
@@muralibalaraman Yeah, he said text based..
He said ‘TEXT based’
Not signing up for threads, Zuck wants a monopoly of social media and won’t allow other companies in such a space. I would not buy anything associated to Meta. At least with TikTok you know exactly what you are getting as compared to Instagram, FB or now Threads. I have more faith on Elon than Zuck.
Am I the only one who finds it worrisome that we are entering an age where the flow of information and news is controlled by just a handful of tech companies???
Edit: Yes I am aware it's been like this for awhile, my concern is that no one is speaking out against it
Weve been in that age for years now
Threads is decentralized and built on the mastodon protocol, so you can take your following anywhere. So it's not locked in as it was once was.
Anyone who isn't worried about that is either stupid or just not paying attention.
Where have you been
This just seems to be your perception. Services like Twitter are not to be seen as trustworthy sources for info and news. Trustworthy sources need to publish through their own channels to stay exactly that.
I would like to interject for a moment. Mastodon is not a Twitter competitor. It's an alternative with a very different goal. Thanks for coming to my TED talk
it also cannot go down, i dont know where he got that, there are a lot of instances, even if some instances happened to go down the whole network cant, it works like the web and email does, its decentralised and federated
yeah I didn't wanna be That Guy and rebuke his "mastodon goes down" claim, but for what its worth he also claimed threads has DMs when it definitely does not have DMs yet
@@lexd0g he probably meant the main most popular instance
I have totally different types of people I follow on Instagram and Twitter, i follow celebrity in insta and political story and people in Twitter but threads is mainly with Instagram where many i follow in Twitter is missing there it a problem right
As for Threads NOT coming to EU at launch I have my suspicions that Meta is using this to push back against strict EU regulations. Even though Meta has repeatedly threatened to pull Facebook from EU due to the new upcoming strict regulations, they obviously know they cannot actually do that. But they can now delay Threads and use this new product to communicate their dissatisfaction with the regulations and have EU politicians rethink while they wish for a Twitter alternative.
Makes me even more interesting Into NOT using threads.
SM are mostly full of talkative toxic people.
Crazy how they can “rush” a release and everyone just blindly jump in. EU regulation is there for a reason.
@@kevinweyrauch4875 that tells you everything you need to know about this shady company.
If meta were Chinese owned, they'd be banned everywhere.
@@jcloiseaua lot of american companies already behave exactly like chinese companies, there is not really a big difference by now
and I’m glad the EU is thinking twice about these things
I want to discuss why VERO never took off the way I wished it would.... that app is so beautifully made man. I still have hope for that.
Yes, would be a good discussion
9:50 500 character limit, nearly double that of Twitter.
thanks
4000 with Twitter Blue. You're mostly reading Tweets not writing them. But if you do then Twitter blue is totally worth it since you get paid now.
Having recently deleted my FB and IG, I have 0 interest in another Meta product. I understand how social media can work really well for small businesses these days, but there are way too many ads on these platforms. I met a lot of really cool people who were into photography when Instagram first came out, and as soon as Facebook bought them it when down hill. More about making lots of money then the actual community.
Thread is just another platform for them to make a lot of money, not about bringing people together. Meta stops people from being creative and coming up with unique ideas for apps as they will just copy it and make it their own. I have more to say but it's already getting too long. 😂
Kind of wish you guys talked about the upcoming federation of Threads! People will be able to use Mastadon and still follow people on threads.
Mastodon is a conglomerate of separate servers that are run by different people. It cannot be down as a whole, but the server you are connecting to can be down.
Threads feels like it is just an extension of Instagram. I am sure there will be more features over time, but as of now it's heavy on the corporate and influencer focus. Compared to Twitter where the focus was more on people and ideas, as dumb or smart as those ideas or people may be.
The only way Threads felt usable was after I spent a solid 10 minutes just blocking and muting accounts. Hopefully they launch more feature to be able to customize your feed. I still use twitter more than threads for that reason. Much easier access to information and trends.
i would still lie to see direct messaging implemented on the threads app and i don't want another app like fb messenger i want it in the same app. but not Shure if they would do this as it would conflict with messenger. and could cause further trouble with twitter
in the UK and have threads 11:30 ..i guess we’re not part of the EU anymore 😪
I'm sorry y'all. I must have missed the part where they answered the question - will Threads kill Twitter?
yes it will die in 2 hours say goodbye
I don't need threads or more meta in my life twitter is already filling that role well enough for me.
No
the only winning move is not to play
Yep. Not on either of them or Facebook
Character limit is 500 on Threads
3rd party apps will never be over! Im still using one and it is the only way I will use twitter on my phone. Screw the main app. Also threads is great I love it.
You can definitely post multiple images in a single thread- just that MKB was on the beta version that kept crashing lol
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Don't know why I noticed this but Marques's Camera's Resolution is lower than others. First I thought my youtube went to 480p then shifting it to upper resolutions understood that it was with MB's camera and not with YT.
@15:16 David twitched in a way I've seen someone close to me has, I hope this doesn't come off as insensitive but I genuinely want to know what that is. Thanks
Oh yes, Elon owning Twitter is just as concerning as Zuck owning every single social media platform 😂.
The hate is real for elon I don’t get it lol
@@Smi77y1he provides solutions, his haters need a permanent crisis to justify taking away your rights
@@Smi77y1 Because he embraces hate speech and allows it to thrive on his platform that's why. You asked! I gave you the reason. I don't care either way. I'm just glad there is a Twitter alternative. I wish there was one for youtube.
@@southwestkinema9149hate speech is included In free speech my friend. No one likes to be hated on but censorship isn’t a better option
@@braukwood925 so what’s your solution to hate speech?
3:00 sociogram, learned a new word today!
Thread doesn't allow nudity and NFSW. Thats a major red flag... Twitter is more open platform on so many ways.
Even though i hate using Twitter now.
I’m excited for the ActivityPub integration, I’m leaving threads for my own mastodon instance as soon as it launches.
I never heard about all this other social media mentioned at the beginning of the video… 🤷🏻♂️
What is the relation between Thread and Matter???
How am I not following y’all on my socials? 😩
Never been a twitter user or at least often. I’ve enjoyed threads simply because IG was my main social so the integration was smooth.
yea but it looks like Threads is going to die as 70% of users have dropped in usage, since launch.
7:35 max 10 photos at a time
Threads isn't gonna last, Target audience is too wide, Twitter is more for fucking about where as instagram is for people you consider friends, but Threads wants to mix the two together in a PG Style, it'll be too niche for the Instagram and Facebook crowed and too "safe" for the twitters users, it'll hit the roof at 200m users.
Hmmm. Thread is a No-Way-Out app. There is no way to delete your Thread account without deleting your IG account too.
Watching this video while also scrolling thru Threads 😅
I did used the old Threads app and found it redundant too.
Nobody uses hive? That's too bad. They're a solid team(of 2 to 5 I believe) and have features Twitter doesn't have like more than 240 characters, free account verification (blue checks), a NSFW handle, no ads.
"follow us on THREADS it's another one"
when there is too many social media sites.
The bluesky app never crashes for me so idk what you’re talking about.
On my iPhone SE 2 it crashes whenever I click on post button or comment button.
The problem with threads is that they don't have the accessibility features that Twitter does. Threads would be so much better if it was more accessible. But that's typical of Meta / Facebook. Such as adding Alt text, in Instagram & Facebook, its hidden & you have to look for it, whereas on Twitter, it's just there. If Meta improved its accessibility features, it'll beat Twitter for sure!
Threads main problem is it steals everything in your life.. even more than the other social netowrks
Twitter > threads
it does work in the EU!
But how is Threads different than Google+? Or any number of other social networks that went viral and then fell back into the niche world?
14:00 why did I never hear about this?
you can add more than 4 picts fine, at least on android
threads needs current events
If blockchain could get past its limitations it could spawn many very cool micro social network platforms where users own their data. We hear about this all the time but so far limited success in production. SocialFi or DeSo should be the vanguard projects for the next bull run in crypto, should we get one. :)
LOL this aged like milk. 😂
it is members of the EU not the whole of Europe. you can get it in the UK so at least Brexit was good for something lol.
How i use social media:
1. Twitter: post complaints to bigger companies and get quick support.
2. Facebook: to buy second hand things.
3. Instagram: to flex and see my friends flexing.
4. Linked in: to post my work achievements, and see how others are progressing in their career.
5. CZcams: to get informed.
6. Tiktok: to lough and pause being serious for a minute.
If thread wants to replace twitter: it must do what twitter is doing, otherwise it is another instagram.
Why should we all jump ship for Zuck? Who has shown over the years to not be a great person. He also feels like he is a big government cronie.
"WHY OPRA" 🤣🤣
I respect how Marques is always the only one who knows how to keep his personal beliefs and opinions to himself and discusses subjects with logical responses and hands-on experience, where as the other guys always like or hate a product based on pre-existing feelings about some outside factor (in this case they like Threads, a product none of the others have even tried out yet, solely because they do not like Elon Musk). It makes me trust Marques's opinions much more than theirs, to the point where I unfortunately don't care about what they have to say.
It ain't that deep.
@@supersaiyansoldier1977 it's a reoccurring theme
There is a reason why you know only one of there names
Just because he doesn't say it out loud doesn't mean it doesn't influence his opinion
Instagram without the pictures?
Uhh there’s no way I’m using threads. Can’t give one company so much data about me
Can you guys comment on the fact that the EU won’t allow Threads to be released in the EU yet because of the ridiculous amount of data permissions (including health data) you have to grant access to Threads. The EU are asking Meta why do they need access to this level of data.
It just goes to show how out of touch these elite tech geeks are with other tech users. The app is already dead. 6 min use today. You guys need to speak to real people outside of your bubble.
They are "influencers", hugbox advertising platforms appeal to them, obviously boring and useless for anyone else.
You can post up to 500 characters on threads
We are using in EU since day one 😁
@@fabio.santos yes in Kosova , app is called - threads, an Instagram app in Play store is released by Instagram 🤔
I’m sensing a Google plus future
can't get threads. still not allowed in the e.u
They need to add chat , lives & away to post videos and pictures without having to go through your iPhone Photos App.
No DMs. 10 pictures. Hit return 3 times to start a thread.
The thread version of tweeting someone should be threatening someone.
11:55 SAME LMAOOOO
What is a thread?
It doesn't have dms, this is exclusively keeping me out. Don't want instagram, so if im going to use threads i want the dms there, not on another app.
Tweets on Thread should be called stitches
It's not that there is no for you page, it's that there is no following page. The home page is the for you page. That's the problem.
“80% of Twitter” heck nah. It’s like 50%. No DMs, no organized timelines, no view counts.. it isn’t even close.
What you explained in your open is what the problem is. Most people aren't famous or stars. Twitter and Threads are for faux interactions with celebrities and influencers which real people are trying to escape from. Mastodon needs work but if solid investment is made in the infrastructure it can be a place where you create micro social networks between people vs people fawning over influencers and stars. No offense. There is a place for both but Threads will improve not normal human interactions (which is a real problem with today's social giants). So the real hole in the market is not another fawning platform for famous people but one for normal people to interact and connect. Mastodon is the closest to that albeit flawed.
Threads? Oh, so 2.0 of the service literally everyone hated? Ruin by a company everyone doesn't trust and hates? Wow sign me up 🙄
you could have named this video string theory.
You can copy paste photos and it doesn't crash
The character limits is 500
is this reupload?
Thread at me, bruh!
You do have a shortcut for Instagram profile
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Why do people need threads ? How much information does the average person have to share with the world ?
Threads is ‘not twitter. both are pointless
@@onemorechris Yes, I know it’s not twitter. The focus is on threads, hence my comment about threads. But I agree, both are equally unnecessary. They are like solutions to problems that most people don’t have.
14:48 I disagree. I think the logo can resemble an alphabet from a foreign language.
13:35 threads
Threads is based on Mastodon Protocol, which should mean your data is safe... BUT the threads App collects a bunch of data unlike mastodon which collects none. Hopefully they become interoperable so atleast theres a safe way to join
I think by "Mastodon Protocol" you mean the ActivityPub protocol. This protocol isn't used exclusively by Mastodon, a lot of other social media uses it too, and the protocol itself actually existed way before Mastodon. It's true that Threads plans to add interoperability with other social media through ActivityPub, but the protocol actually doesn't have anything to do with data collection. The data isn't more safe because of this
I have more faith in TikTok than Zuckerberg