AKK X2 Ultimate 1200mW Vtx long range test (oh, it is GOOD!)
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The first part of a much anticipated test is now a fact! The AKK X2 Ultimate Vtx really impresses with the promise of a 1200mW output from its tiny 6 gram form factor, and my tests have shown that in addition to heat, thi Vtx really does output its signal at a higher power, giving a much cleaner image at a greater distance! Still more tests need to be done, but this one is looking promising, and seems like yet another great AKK product. I've been happy with their X1P Vtx on my Clouds up until now, I hope the X2 Ultimate will continue to serve me well... from FAR away! :D
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I just love the type of videos you do! Keep up the great work! I love the quality of every Video and that you do real test. You push the equipment to its limit, wich is the only way really test long range gear.
Thanks mate, much appreciated! Sadly these long range FPV items cannot be tested otherwise... or actually... gladly, they cannot be tested otherwise. ;) That way I get to go out and fly far! You can do math all day long, but at the end what really matters is the result in the real world! I just hope I don't lose the Clouds in the process... but then I have a few other planes that could take its place... :D
Great video! I just got mine. Can't wait to test them out!
Thanks! Good luck! :)
Dude. Take a breath now and again! Great vids.
Breathing is overrated... did away with it a long time ago! :P
Thank you for an awesome review!
You are welcome! It was my pleasure... as always! :)
THIS is what I need! I'm currently flying my homebuilt V-Tail Pusher (on my channel) with the L9R! but with the TS5828 600mW, I'm only getting about 4km range because the video starts to be junk while the Radio signal is still 90-100% at 4km... I had the urge to go 1.3 on all my Long Range (L9R) aircrafts but your video just said: ''Don't worry, this is exactly what you need!''.
Thank you so much man!
Well... 600mW... I've been out to over 20kms on that much power! Directional antennas and an antenna tracker do help increase that range, without increasing the power!
Awesome ... great work man!
Thanks! :)
I ordered yesterday the transmitter and received discount using your link. Yeah!!
Cool! Thanks for the support. :)
Great video mate. the is great info for me, now I know how I can go from Denmark to Sweden (26km) and I will give some support for you, like a thanks for upgrading me ;-) cheers and happy flying champ
Much appreciated mate! Glad it is helpful! Actually in the direction I am flying, at 27kms I am only 10kms from the Serbian border... might reach it some day! :)
No, you have OUR endless gretitude for doing this full time!
Thank you mate! I enjoy this... it is sort of like a dream job! :D
ArxangelRC still looks like hard work!!
Oh, it is! Especially the videos... those take so much time to do... but... they have to get done!
Yes you are on a mission to harm the RC Hobby and are likely well paid IMO... so may fake names on your videos.... no real people with a brain it seems.
Yeah lol wat a bummer of a full time job. Smh
Sweet performance!
Sure is! :)
I wanted to clarify that my English is not the best but I would like to leave my opinion concerning all the videos that arxangel puts on line I would also like to tell them to all those who put the thumb down because many regards the task of the critic and easy and that I am sad about them because I think he is among the most competent people the most friendly and the most consistent in my case I have a lot of admiration for all these posts and this character really bravo and thank you for making us enjoy all this
Thanks for the support mate, really appreciate the kind words! :)
Great review again, and that mystery problem you encountered was identical to mine, running two Circular Wireless helicals pointing 45 degrees apart, it would drop away from the perfect signal and sit with snow, if I rotated the mast to bring the other antenna into line the image would recover, and with the two 632's I tested, both have a preference to receiver A, and that side also has around 2dBm more sensitivity, same deal on both receivers, although they should be identical, it looks like the pcb design is likely to be robbing some sensitivity or introducing noise into B side. Thanks again for posting.
Thanks. Good to know its the A antenna, will keep to using that port only! I guess an automatic antenna tracker really does not need diversity since it is actively tracking the model! 2dBm is no small amount when you are looking to squeeze everything out of your system in terms of range! :D Thanks for the tip! :)
Great video, I’m seriously thinking about getting one of these VTx for my next build. I can’t wait to see the results of your antenna testing. Which antennas are you using currently for your VTx and VRx?
Thanks mate! On the plane I have a Pagoda antenna, and on the ground I had two helicals, you may have seen them in the video.
Akk x2 only give 500 meters range… not working at all.. and no difference between de 4 power options
@@isaakyakolev2479 could be a faulty unit, bad antenna, or bad antenna orientation. I’ve had a few of these VTx now. And other than on where I let it overheat; they have all output at least 1.2W.
Lol, don't blame you for strapping a heatsink to it, bet it got super hot without!
My 1500mw 5.8ghz vtx came with a factory heatsink and fan and It runs cooler than any of my 600 and 800mw units I own.
Sure it adds size and weight but at the tx power level and current draw of these, we ain't sticking them on tiny planes and can afford the extra bulk to keep them cool.
Yup, exactly, the larger planes can carry a lot... although... it is almost like an OCD for me... to try and get almost every airframe as light as possible! :D
Awesome video as always... I noticed that in the temperature test you didn't put an antenna on🤨🤔
Thanks! I moved the antenna between the two Vtx units. There is an antenna, don't worry! :)
Thanks for the review!
Thanks! :)
Wow 25km of range for 20$ transmitter and helical antena.I thought that long range fpv is expensive.
Haha, oh, these things are cheap. Wait till you get to the antenna tracker: goo.gl/YWjTX9
A comparison between the MFD AAT and an RSSI antenna tracker would be interesting. :-)
Yeah, sadly I don't have access to the latter, and to be honest I've seen so many people struggle with other antenna trackers... and thinking back to my, literally, flawless experience with the MFD one... I really am reluctant to dive into something that I am almost certain would cause me a substantial waste of time and nerves! :D I do have one of those ardu trackers... built it myself... such a waste of time and parts... A friend of mine actually built an RSSI antenna tracker recently... he is out at the field every week troubleshooting it, making new antennas, changing stuff, adding stuff... removing stuff... it is horrible just looking at him! And it never does seem to work right!
That's very helpful information as I'm no longer on the fence about what kind of tracker to get lol. I've wanted one since forever and all my local flying buddies are using everything from Immersion to Eagle Tree. MFD AAT owners all seem to really like the performance. I do have an AAT but it's only usable with its specific autopilot(Pitlab). Thanks again for your response and I am now one of your Patreon supporters. I can't begin to tell you how many headaches you've helped me avoid over the past several months on my quest for a working LR system on 2.4/5.8. Many MANY thanks!
ArxangelRC nah, who need to pay 340 for antena tracker if you can duct tape helical antenna to friend head... Just make sure there is no girls around.
great video thanks
You are welcome! :)
Were you flying full power on your vtx when you did this? If i had full power on my vtx and a high gain 12dbi directional antenna, how far will i go?
Yes, I had it set to the highest setting, but some people reported that it had different output on different channels... ranging from 900mW to 1800mW, depending on the frequency... so no idea if it is actually outputting 1200mW, more, or less! How far will you go with this setup... no idea... depends on what antenna you have on the Vtx, and how accurate you are able to point the receiving antenna at the plane! I would say 15kms might be possible... but certainly over 10kms!
Hi ArxangelRC
,
Just didn't found in the description,
what antenna did you use on this VTX?
and actually what is the best antenna for long range 5.8 on TX.. ?
Hi, I used this antenna on the Vtx: goo.gl/Nt2DH2
So far, of all the CPs I've tested, this one has proved itself to be the best... but it could be just my unit... and I haven't tested too many of these in any case! :)
WOW do you ever breath
Nah, breathing is overrated... stopped doing that years ago! ;D
@@ArxangelRC Well i nerver brathed! topped you bro !!!!!!!!!!! :)
Thats bothering me now XD
Hahahaha
He's a android.
I would think you were going in and out of different fresnel-zones, causing the periodic dropouts through cancellations as you were changing distance and altitude?
Could be, will need to look into this further. Thanks for the tip! :)
Looking at his altitude, Fresnel zone violation is doubtful, particularly on 5.8GHz. It's possibly the AGC on the LNA / diversity. Hard to tell without further testing.
why not just hold your hand infront one of the antennas for short periods of time? Quick n dirty ;)
The antenna was not close to me, and I was quite annoyed with the lack of clear signal at times to think about this! Only got to analysing the situation once I headed back and was bored... hahaha. A friend of mine, who has a lot of experience with these systems and with antennas, was pretty certain it was not a fresnel zone thing but the diversity receiver switching between the antennas at the worst time.
Great video Nikola, I have a question for you. Could you please advise me how to setup my Zeta FX-79 with redundant servo setup as I am so afraid I may crash if I lose a servo control while in flight? Thank you
Thanks! I haven't done something like this before, but I think it involves cutting the control surfaces in two pieces each, and when you add the second servo to each control surface, you should adjust it so both are working in unison.
yes i guess if you thought about the switching of antennas when you were in the air you could have removed one
and then the other while flying that would have been the perfect test to confirm your thoughts, just ordered one also to try thanks they seem to be on sale.
Yes, I thought about that... but only later! At that specific time my mind was busy trying to concentrate on making out my home arrow through all that snow on the screen to try and turn the plane around, and since I was alone by that time at the field... really didn't feel like getting up from the chair and putting down the remote to go and swap antennas around! :) Will do a dedicated test of this soon enough! :)
Awesome Cheers
hi, I just new in a long range and something that I did realize was, it really uncomfortable to hold my taranis for a long time.
I have to keep standing, if I sit the signal from my R9M will be reduced. I can see it from rssi indicator in the osd.
how do you mount your remote control while doing long range?
I am sitting down!!! Antenna pointing up! I'll be standing up only in critical situations!
hey, wich tx 5.8ghz antenna do you recommend for long range ?
i use on my drone (its a hubsanh501s) the standard foxeer cloverleaf antenna with 3dbi and the vtx has 200mw output power and i get about 3-3.5km range. i think about to buy a pagoda2 , aomway cloverleaf antenna, no name 5dbi cloverleaf antenna have you any suggestion to me?
thank you.
Actually I've had the best results with this one so far: goo.gl/Nt2DH2
Thank you so much 😁
You are welcome! :)
ArxangelRC I got some cooling ribbons that will fit it myself, so I'll glue on one to 🙂
Sounds good! I think it is a good idea to add some additional cooling! Should make some difference.
Assuming your reciver sensativity is around 95 dbm.
And that you won't have any interference whare you fly.
You should be able to fly more than 40 kilometers.
I really do hope you are correct! :)
Another great video! Thanks! What VTx do u use? I don't get 20 km with 1.3 800mw and a yagi...
Why do u need an antenna tracker when u r flying to one direction? I can build a tracker for less than $100 on my eagletree system but the diversity with 2 VTx one with omni antenna and the other with a yagi serve the cause...
Guy St this video was about a vtx...
Damn! Something must be wrong with that 1.3Ghz 800mW Vtx of yours. As far as I've seen... with that much output on 1.3 people have been out to over 150kms! As for the tracker, I use it because I have setup most of my planes with it anyway, and because I don't always fly out in a single direction and back. Also, 5.8Ghz is different from 1.3Ghz! With 1.3Ghz you can have high gain antennas with a wide beam, so you could do long range without a tracker! With 5.8Ghz sadly, as the frequency goes up, in order to keep the antenna gain, the beam narrows down, so it becomes critical for it to be well pointed in the direction of the model!
Thanks again for tis valuable information!
I might build this tracker as it looks nice... :) and because I have most of the parts
Anyways, 27km on 5.8 is very very impressive! WHich Vrx do you use?
You are welcome. The Vrx I am using is this one: goo.gl/mPonrV
As for 5.8Ghz... a friend of mine has been out to 50kms... but with stupendously custom and tuned antennas, and a 2W Vtx. Right now I am trying to see how far out I can get with regular store bought items, just to make it easier for people! :)
@Guy St, Do you have partom 1.2 800mW ? users measured it at 500mW
impressive distance! I think I've to start building myself an antenna tracker...
Well... the one I am using is plug-n-play, and it is awesome!
Please tell me how to input audio.
I want to use an antenna Tracker.
I can't be certain, because my tracker works via the video channel, but perhaps the Smart Audio channel works as an audio channel when you are not using it to control the Vtx via it?
Great video!:) But what happened to 120M max altitude with rc flying?
The altitude indicator is malfunctioning... :P
Hello Arxangel. I nottice this transmitter has disable the E4 band wich i mostly use in my Eachine 600mW. Here there is no banned band. Which you use for better results? Thansk a lot.
Hey, ever since I can remember I've been flying on 5825Mhz, that is A 3. Just decided I'd pick a frequency close to 5.8Ghz... as most antennas are advertised as being tuned about there as a middle point.
Couple of things:
Why use the clouds instead of the believer? We want to see that bird fly! xD
I can see that you monitor the temperature on the osd, were is the sensor? How do you put it on the osd? Is it plug & play with the MFD? Would it be easy to do with a pixhawk? Do you really consider necessary to monitor the temperature? (I have always been curious to monitor few different temperatures on real time, battery/fc/ESC's/motors...)
Keep on rocking, and keep on enjoying!
Haha, I use the Clouds because it is by far my most reliable plane at this time, having flown countless of kms, and I know its RTH to be working 100% reliably! As for the Believer, you will see more of it this summer, but right now it has iNav in it, and I wouldn't trust it to more than a few kms out, hence why I will be installing a Pixhawk in the Believer, just so I can have that reliable RTH! At some point it just might replace the Clouds as my go-to plane for doing these kids of tests! :)
Man Dude, Your good. I wish I had a quarter of your electronic skills. Any chance you would be going to Rcs Fest or Flight Fest this year?
Haha, thanks, though I am not sure just how good my electronic skills are... I can use a soldering iron...! :D Not sure I'd be attending those, I literally live on the other side of the planet, and at this time have too much on my plate to spare the time or the finances! Perhaps further down the line it might happen! :)
Ok Sounds good
How about just having a disconnectable plug between power and the vtx, no need to have it running while the GPS is getting a fix, just plug it in when you're ready to launch.
That is also an option... although I have tried such stuff before and I have burned out electronics this way!
Can't you use pitmode while gps get fix?
newer Matek (and maybe other incoming) FCs have option to switch on/off vtx power via your transmitter, this seems to be a smart solution
just use something like a RealPit VTX power switch, control it from your transmitter.
Hello, I would like to put my vtx with a 3d piece similar to the one you used.
I can't find anything similar in thingiverse?
Do you have your designs somewhere?
Yes, I have them on my computer... you can drop me a message on Facebook and I will send them to you! :)
What patch antenna are you using. And what cheep patch antennas would you recommend. (Preferably under $20)
I am now using this thing on the ground and it has been stellar! bit.ly/Triple-Feed-Array
Very impressed with the AKK X2 after watching your video.
Can you tell me what antenna you are using with the TX?
It is an early version pagoda that I had made locally, but right now I am using the GEPRC Pagoda 2, and it is working exceptionally well for me!
@@ArxangelRC Have you tried using a simple dipole. I fly out regularly to 15kms using a cheap $9 Eachine TS832 TX from Bangood using its stock antenna!
The 5.8g HD dipole readymaderc sell seemingly provide even greater results but I've yet to try them.
Great range thought mixing CP with directional.
I have played around with linear antennas... but not a lot because they are crap when I am flying from within the city! Outside the city, they should be a bit better in terms of range, but you need to be at a place with no interference, especially on 5.8Ghz!
I fly in rural areas only so not a problem for me.
I looking forward to testing the AKK X2 I ordered through the link you provided thanks.
Also, going to test Aomways 1W TX MFD highly rate it too!
Personally, I prefer 5.8g over 1.2g it's cleaner.
Happy flying dude.
Thanks mate! Yes, I also prefer 5.8Ghz, because the electronics are better designed and the hardware is more mature due to its popularity! No frequency filtering needed on anything, and the antennas a very small! :) CP works great in the city too!
With countries like Australia, UK and USA cracking down on the use of long range FPV. I wonder what the restrictions in Bulgaria is like? Nothing against your video, but I have not been able to fly long range, due to restrictions in my local area. Anyhow, I loved the video keep them coming and happy flying.
Why the restrictions in Belgium specifically? Do you live there?
And thanks... glad you like my content! Will keep them coming for sure! :)
Ops my bad, I don't know why I said Belgium. I was referring to the place you live at. I would love to live there and be able to fly long range FPV. I love the hobby and enjoy it every second of the day, but with all these restrictions, it makes it quite difficult to enjoy it. Anyhow, keep up the good work!
I live in Bulgaria! :) And yes, I do agree that all these regulations are really going to kill the hobby at some point, unless they relax them a bit... or a lot! Thing is... this hobby was never a problem before and was never frowned upon before WE proved that drones are actually useful, and the airspace above the ground is actually valuable and could be worth billions... this is where the hobby will die to make room for money...
Yes and YOU are causing it... deliberately and bragging about it here under your words... but the hobby will not die because there are very few people like you deliberately harming it. It doesn't matter where you live if you like flying RC FPV you respect it and use common sense when you fly.... but you don't and prefer to rebel against common sense and incite anger among the RC community for your desire to produce a state of disorder and make money as a troublemaker.
Let me stop you right there, I am a certified drone pilot and take the aviation rules very seriously, unlike other people that doesn't respect the rules and think they can fly in just about any airspace, it's ridiculous. The regulations are getting tougher and stricter because of those that don't like following the rules. I follow the rules and my point was, I wish I could fly FPV in areas where it wouldn't cause any safety concern to the public or even the aviation.
Just like everyone else, I want to enjoy the hobby too and from a safety point of view. This is where, we as a community need to work together to address these issues. But when people start pointing fingers and attacking one another, that's where the system fails and everyone else suffers.
Peace out and happy flying.
I thought that the receiver gets more confused at high wattage in multiple path scenarios? You get better punch through forrest at 1.2W?
Would get confused if I was using linear antennas... CP antennas solve that problem! 1.2W would get slightly better results through obstacles... but not by much! Clear view of the model is always a good idea!
I have a ts5828l 600mW with a button. is dead. overheated. Can I fly at 600mW? How do I affect overheating? can only set 25 and 600mw?
If the Vtx has no option to change power levels, which should be noted in its manual, then no, it will only do 600mW! To not overheat it try to put it somewhere where it will get good airflow for cooling, and try not to have it working for too long on the ground before taking off!
Hello again from North Carolina, United States. As stated in my comments on your last video posted, I was waiting for your test and eval of this transmitter. I think we have a winner here and wait for your subsequent testing. I will purchase from your link provided.
May I ask the following concerning this video test? Could it be possible that removing the home made helical and replacing it with IBCrazy's Mad Mushroom or other fine antenna from Alex Greve make the difference and solve the issue you just experienced? I have one of IBCrazy's helical and it is outstanding. I use the same diversity receiver with a Mad Mushroom and 7 turn Helical and have no issues out to 12 km and slightly beyond. Since I am using the L9R, I have been cautious and weary of pushing out further.
Anyway, once finances permit, I intend to purchase FrSky R9M and R9 long range transmitter and receiver.
Thank you once more for your dedication to quality testing! Best Wishes to you, your family, and all of your friends! sasdthoh ( Paul )
Thank you very much Paul, right back at you! Appreciate the support! :) As for the antenna... that is quite possible! That is my theory too and that is why I intend to test all of the antennas I have, just in case. No matter which one comes out on top, I will use it to repeat the test, and hopefully will get some better results! If not... will have to look for the issue elsewhere! In any case it is a receiver side issue, don't think its a problem with the Vtx! As for the Vtx... seems good... but it does need sufficient cooling at the 1200mW power option. :)
I have been getting in to the hobby and using a RC truck from traxxas to test my VTX. I am using a switchable matek VTX now which is much better but the picture seems to be grainy and vague at times. I don't think I have ever seen a clear picture on it as the grains and colour changes are quite bad.
Well... what distance from you is the truck when it gets grainy... or is it grainy from the start?
What fpv camera did you connect the silicone wires to?
Literally any FPV camera is compatible with this one, at the very least you need signal and GND wires going to the Vtx, just in case you are powering the camera from another source!
Can you tell me what extension you use for this to reach the inside of your plane?
I use the cable from the X1P Vtx that was there, just changed the connector to fit the number of pins this Vtx requires. The cable that comes with the Vtx should be long enough, and once inside the fuselage, I just connect it to other cables coming from the PDB and going to the camera.
Have you measured it? Every akk 600mw i've bought has measured 1000mw. I pick them up for 9 dollars on amazon.
All the units i've tested has thermal protection. The will reduce power with respect to temperature. The output power returns to rated output once it's cooled. I leave them on the meter will no cooling for 20 minutes and have yet to seen one fail from overheating.
Yes, they do have thermal protection, I know of this, but still prefer to use a heat sink... piece of mind and all that! :D I have not measured these yet, might do it with a friend's gear since I don't have anything like that here. Interesting to see such high output out of 600mW Vtxs! Usually people claim the output is lower than the stated! :D
The only units i currently see close to rated output are premium units and they produce rated power at all frequencies. The current value brand units have much higher that rated output however the output has a linear decrease as the frequency increases. Also the current value units spike 1w during output regardless of output power selection including units that can be set to zero output power.
However previous value units have produced less that rated output. The popular eachine vt03 is a good example with a max output of 100mw on r1 and 70mw on r8 at the 200mw selection. At the 25mw selection the unit produces 35mw on r1 and 8mw on r8.
Put a pelter on your akk unit with a large heatsink for some fun. My best dyno run has been almost 2w with the 9 dollar 600mw unit.
Interesting! I've been out to just over 10kms with a VTX03... no idea what its actual output is though... hahaha
Got mine.
1200mw setting = 1843mw
600mw setting = 1148mw
200mw setting = 512 mw
25mw setting = 48mw
This unit does produce less output based on frequency but the opposite direction than other akk style vtx.
25mw setting on r1 = 21mw
25mw setting on r8 = 48mw.
Something else interesting to note is this unit does not heat up less on lower power settings.
Output power after 3 minutes of power up with no airflow,
1200mw setting = 1433mw
25mw setting = less than 1mw.
Performace in the 25mw is much worse with heat than any other value unit i've tested however max output setting is much better with heat than any other value unit i've tested.
Another interesting thing to note is this is the first value brand vtx that does not spike 1w during power up.
Damn! 1843mW!!! How are you measuring this? Any chance you can measure what the output is on the A3 channel?
Heat performance is weird... but you can't help but wonder if keeping it powered on that 1200mW option without cooling would result in something melting at some point? Surely can't dissipate reliably even 1433mW!!
does this vtx have to be unlocked to 1200mw everytime a battery plugged in ?
No, you set it once and it does keep the settings.
just bought one using your link
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :D
the vtx temp and GPS lock wait time is simple, just power up the FC via USB until it gets a GPS lock then connect the flight battery and unplug the usb :)
Haha... GPS locks on pretty quickly if you fly from the same spot! :)
Hello! you seem pretty sharp about this antenna stuff
can i put a coax antenna on a syma x5 toy grade quad for better range ? ive already modded the antenna in my remote but want to go farther.. over 400 meters if possible ? i realize i can add a helical or a yagi to my remote, but im seeing if i can squeeze any more range out of the flight control first,
thanks in advance!
Yes, you can always replace an antenna, and if the new one is better than the old, it will give you better range!
@@ArxangelRC wow hey thanks for the fast response; im still really new at this an could use a little guidence if you don't mind.. Im a fast learner promise.
so let's say the original antenna is just a basic "wire lead" antenna (yes it's literally -just a wire-) , so it just has one wire going into the antenna port on the board, not two wires like a coax type.. I'm probably answering my own q here, but, do I assume antenna port is positive? the inner coax goes to antenna port and coax shielding to a negative, right? thanks again in advance!
@@chrishenderson5444 Well "just a wire" is what most antennas are, the quality of the antenna comes from the tuning to the specific frequency it needs to operate on! A dipole has a chance of having a higher gain, but will also be a bit more directional, so that needs to be taken into account as well! Usually on a coax cable the centre running wire is the active element, and the cable shielding is the ground. If the antenna terminates with a connector to the board usually the inner part of the connector is the active element, or as you said "positive", and the outside of the connector is the GND.
@@ArxangelRC thank you so much you got yourself a new subscriber it's the least I can do you been so helpful, a true asset to the CZcams R/C community
@@chrishenderson5444 Thanks mate, really appreciate it! 🙂
Can i connect this to my 11.1v flight battery and let the battery power my motor and this vtx at the same time with the vtx at its max without volt sag?
Should work.
Ordered a couple from link,cheers.
Thanks mate, much appreciated! :)
I am just getting into F.P.V and just bought the AXN Cloud Floater. I have a query, how does the transmitter talk to the plane at 20 km, I'm thinking of getting the Turnigy-i6, does that have enough transmitting power to reach a plane at 20 km?
I am willing to bet that this radio will not make it past 1-2kms, or at the most very little after this! To make it over 20kms you would need a Taranis with an L9R receiver, or the new FrSky R9 system... or anything else on 433Mhz or 868Mhz frequency.
Does one attach the Taranis to the antenna Tracker, I haven't seen any Information on how the transmitter is wired up to allow control of the plane from long distance, in this case 20km
Not to the tracker... just a 5db antenna mod on the Taranis, and that's it! Link is 2.4Ghz wireless signal from the radio to the receiver! It is just well made. :)
great video...how big was heat sink?
Not very big... I think it is around 15x15mm!
What was your distance? I only have satellite internet where I live so the video is too blurry to actually see it.
I went out to about 27kms on this run! :)
hi thank you for rewiew , i bought akk x2 ultimate , can i use eachine rotg02 tx ?
Yes, that should work well! :)
Good job 👌 and a new suscriber 👌, un saludo desde España 🇪🇸 edu bermudez.
Thanks mate, salutations to you from Bulgaria! ;)
Hi! don't you think that once - your not turning around on all directions as a drone - you would have better results with a linear antenna in the plane?
(like the ones selling in akk website)
Yes, linear should be better for long range as long as you are in the middle of nowhere with no chance of getting any reflections, etc. My experience has been that there aren't many well built linear antennas for long range out there... but will look into this and do some more tests with some that I have here. :)
I just bought some from akk. I will let you know. ;-)
Cool, thanks! :)
I’m setting up a long range fpv system! What do you recommend for getting the video out to 30km . Is a antenna tracker needed ! Let me know and I’ll buy it all three your links !!!! I need a list of everything needed please !! Thanks buddy great videos I’ve seen them all !!
Thanks, much appreciated! As to you question - that would depend on the gear you want to use! 30kms would be pretty trivial on a well tuned 1.3Ghz video system, but a 5.8Ghz one would indeed benefit from an antenna tracker and a good directional antenna on the ground! So which freq are you using?
@@ArxangelRC I’ve just purchased MFD autopilot and antenna tracker so basically just need a video tx and rx . I have a 5.8 system now I’m going use to get the plane set up then I’ll swap out the 5.8 for the 1.3.
@@ArxangelRC just need a list of what to buy for the 1.3g just want to use whatever your using. I have the mfd mini ant tracker on its way with the mfd autopilot.
@@ADKDronesRC Well, I have been able to get to 30kms with the AKK Dominator: www.akktek.com/products/vtx/fx2-dominator.html?acc=321 and the receiver I use is sadly discontinued now... has been for a while! But I am certain most receivers out there would be OK.
@@ArxangelRC I have a Flysight Black Mamba 5.8Ghz 2W FPV Vtx 2000mW laying around and a aomway 1000w 5.8g but I’ve never used them . Making the transition from gas powered planes so the flying pay the building part not a problem it’s the video system that the issue. What about antennas ? That very confusing to me ! Much appreciate the help !
After thought what about a diversity receiver? Aside from pairing the watts does brand matter! I have a 1000watt aomway rx and a ImmersionRC V3 5800 Duo 5.8GHz FPV Diversity Receiver RC Quadcopter Racing Drone I think only 600 watts . So I’m sure I’ll need to find a better rx for video!?
how do i see the results. the camera immediately, can I use Rotg02
What results?
what are you using for transmission from the goggles?
Transmission from the goggles?
Did anyone ever tested these pigtail cables? I read they make things worse because the cables are usually crap like RG178 which is thin and flexible but only rated up to 3ghz.
Never heard of this... thing is... there isn't much difference between an antenna directly mounted to the Vtx, and going through the pigtail! At least I haven't noticed much of a difference!
Is it still good after many use? I'm gonna connect it to cadxx ratel camera
Yes, I've been using it for quite a while! And have abused it quite a bit... still running strong!
directional antena on the plane is needed, with a gimbal to to auto point to the ground
Would be pretty awesome... but would also require some programming and one more controller...
Pls tell me what video receiver on the ground are you using and the good antenna, camera and the monitor please
The receiver is an FR632, which is sadly no longer sold, monitor is Skyzone HD02, which again, is no longer sold. Antenna was a homemade one, and VAS one, but nowadays I use the Triple Feed Patch Array on the ground.
@@ArxangelRC bruh, can you then give me, like the items that are like as good as those things, and same prize or lower, i dont need 25km range i need like 15 max
@@the_steko Well for 15kms it doesn't really matter what you buy, just get at least a 1.2W Vtc and get good antennas, all else is irrelevant.
Can you put a link to where I can buy those helical antennas
If you check some of my later Clouds videos you will find links to some good antennas! Sadly CZcams has been deleting my comments with product links in them!!! :(
Hey, thanks for the video. I'm working on a high-powered model rocket and it's planned for rocket to reach about 20.000 feet(6km). I need to stream live video from the rocket at flight. Do you think it makes sense to use this module. Overall it will be in the air for about 15 to 20 minutes. I don't want to burn it. Which antennas should I use? Is it clever to use this module ?
(I am using a 12dbi yagi antenna in the ground). Thx for any help. Cheers :)
Hi, this should be more than adequate for 6km, but it is analogue! It depends image quality you need!
@@ArxangelRC 480p should do fine
@@ArxangelRC And In other communication devices such as lora and xbee you need 2 device to communicate, I couldnt understand that do we need 2 modules for video transmission
@@erenarslan8186 This is analogue video, no 480p! For that you will need a digital system, and yes, it needs to have a transmitter and receiver!
@@ArxangelRC I just learned that analogue video is just fine. I'm thinking about using this module. May I ask which module are you using as a receiver ?
I thought maybe i could mount a small 3.3-5V fan above the VTX, similar to the ones used on small Raspberry Pi cases... it would be light weight and could be powered off the vtx itself... would love your opinion on the idea
Yeah, that could work, a friend of mine does it that way... haven't tried it myself, but just might do at some point.
@@ArxangelRC Also i was wondering if you have heard of the FuriousFPV Dock-king and 2.4ghz VTX/RX combo. The module is designed to go in fatshark goggles but can be placed in the dock-king and run to your goggles/monitor via analog or hdmi video connection. There is a bit of an issue with the firmware switching between antennas but mounted on your antenna tracker i think it would be an amazing addition to your system. Cheers! Love your videos
Thanks mate! Yeah... I've heard of it... will wait for them to fix the firmware, and will also wait for me to get to the limit of the 5.8Ghz systems... before moving down the frequency range! :)
Great work and a lot of skill into the setup. Where is this nice runway?
Thanks! I am in Bulgaria, this airfield is 50km out of town due south of Sofia.
Slakovtsi. :)
I am also in Sofia. Would love to witness some of your tests sometime. New to the hobby and eager to learn :)
Haha, yeah, figured that! That Disco flight over the horse race track, with a mountain I know all too well in the background, sort of gave you away! :D
ArxangelRC - you got me :) I am pretty green and have flown only the Disco, but am very interested in the planes stuff. Wanna learn more on assembly, components, FPV. Watching CZcams mainly now, but about to buy a new plane to learn, because Disco basically flies itself.
25 km is a distance that makes me a little afraid. But ... I want to try my hand at this upgrade on my ranger, trying to reach smaller distances.
You have already tested this Volantex product, and I have followed your experience. I have a question for you.
At vtx 5.8g like AKK X2 ultimate 800Mv you think it is better than at 1.2Ghz 1.3Ghz transmitter
Perhaps the video signal is better with 5.8G but a 1.2 / 3Ghz transmitter has a more powerful and penetrating signal through obstacles.
On this topic I read conflicting arguments. 1.2G maybe better for quads.
Sorry but I have some gaps in this field, and I try to fill them.
After watching your videos, and look at the components you use in your buildings, I think you are the best person to ask for some advice.
Happy easter 🐣 and good flights 🛩 too all 🙂
Happy Easter to you too! Actually 1.3Ghz will always give you more range, much more range and penetration, but the quality of the image might be just a tad lacking compared to the quality of a 5.8Ghz signal! But then it all boils down to what you are looking to do with the model! 5.8Ghz as hardware is much more developed now, due to its popularity and ease of use, antennas are smaller, etc., so it gets used a lot! 1.2Ghz would require a lot of filtering on all receivers and/or transmitters, usually has issues with most other frequencies so it is more demanding to setup and use properly, plus the antennas are bigger, which is a huge minus in my book! But like I said... if you are looking to do over 100kms in a straight line without an antenna tracker... 1.2Ghz is the way to go!
@@ArxangelRC Thank you very much, now I have much clearer ideas. To start I did not go very far, so I will start with a vtx AKK. I will try to better understand everything about these filters 😉
Yeah, have a read! Personally I never did get interested in that when I realised how much hassle it would be... and so far I've been quite happy with the 5.8Ghz band!
Ad a link for that hat too ! Just kidding :) Nice test, thanks !!! Really helpful.
Hahaha, well here is one person who watched the video to the end! Thank you sir! :)
You are from Bulgaria right? Is this legal there and in the EU? I am from Greece and I have trouble finding out. How much range (very rough estimate would I get with a patch antenna on my goggles and a cloverleaf on the plane? Do you know any stores in Europe that sell this? Could I do long range with 800mw? Merry Christmas and thanks.
Hi mate... legal is a bit of a stretch... but around here we can do this given we submit a flight plan to the authorities ahead of time and they approve it! As for distance with the goggles.... that would depend on how well you can point that antenna at the plane with your head... I have been out to 25km won 600mW with my antenna tracker, but it points the antennas very accurately!
@@ArxangelRC Ok thanks for all the help! There are not many channels doing what you do and do it as well.
Thank you, appreciate it! :)
thanks
:)
how are you connecting the ground station antenna, i mean how did you match to the frequency of the Vtx to receiver in the ground
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Well... they have a list of channels... and the frequencies are known... so you just match them up based on those frequencies!
@@ArxangelRC can you please make a video on the connection with the camera and OSD in detail. Thanks in advance I am looking for some material for this for a long time could not find proper material. Also if it is possible to use with the pixhawk
@@anujregmi4582 Yes, it is possible to use it with Pixhawk, and I'd think there should be plenty of videos showing exactly how to wire these things... are there not??
@@ArxangelRC well i have tried many search but none are there explaining it with pixhawk, If possible please let me know the receiver model that you have used too. Actually it is for my university project.
@@anujregmi4582 The receiver I am using is the Boscam FR632!
What antenna tracker are you using?
MFD AAT. If you open the video description, it is almost at the bottom of the list.
Can i add it on a quadcopter class 210?
Sure, but perhaps if you have space the FX2 Ultimate is a better option: goo.gl/c9KJrA
5:27 --- my heart would've dropped. I can only imagine your heart started racing a bit, and your fingers got a little bit shaky haha.
Hahahaha, not really! I am long used to such things... I don't even twitch when it happens! I wouldn't twitch even of video was suddenly lost... you get used to it after a while! It will either come back, or not... you have to have that mindset from the get go! :)
Far out!
I know! :D
Nice 25km !!! with what altitude?
Should have been just over 2kms!
I tried to buy from your link, but unfortunately, they don´t accept credit card, so I had to buy it from another store. thanks for the video, and I hope at last I will have a solid video, something I couldn´t achieve yet.
Thanks! Actually a solid video can be attributed to many factors, not just output power! Antennas are actually more important than power alone.
why don´t you make a video, enlightening us a bit, how to use all the equipment, and get the most of it?
there are not much videos about that.
thanks
I think RCModelReviews has something on the subject! Will have to think about this...
Seems akk ultimate mini has some lines... i might switch to Rush tank 800mw... it seems to have a cleaner feed.
Haven't tested the Mini... could be... I do put an LC filter even though all of these are filtered nowadays!
Whats your opinion on Eachine Tx(s) vs AKK Tx(s) ?
I am looking for an Airplane System; TX and RX with (reliable 1-2km Range) as a replacement for the old Lawmate 2,4Ghz System. I made the switch from 433openlrs to FrSky 2,4 thats why I have to switch the Videosystem as well.
My Videogoogles are from Marek: napolskimniebie.pl/index.php/sklep/wyposazenie-fpv/obudowa-do-monitora-5-detail
Sorry for the late reply... this got flagged as "spam"... and the new Creator Studio is crap... so it didn't show up there... only saw it now that I got back to the Classic view...
Anyway... given the choice... I would tend to go with AKK to be honest... they do indeed make some pretty awesome Vtxs with very nice filtering, and I do like their stuff!
@@ArxangelRC Thank you. And whats your Receiver recommedation (Stand Alone) ?
Ideally the Boscam Fr632... but it seems to be running out of stock in most places!
@@ArxangelRC No, Its available in Germany, several hundred units !
Thank you.
!!!! Where? Got a link?
can the international version unlocked to US version? it is a bit cheaper but has restrictions....
Actually the US version has the restrictions to 1000mW, the International version is 1200mW.
@@ArxangelRC ok thanks, good to know! all channels available also?
I think 3-4 channels are not available in the US version... but the rest are all there.
how does he keep rf signal?
Radio or video?
What is the range of this VTX with any circular clowerleaf or Pagoda antenna, pls?
That is very hard to say because it would depend on the antenna on the receiver, and also on the quality of the antenna mounted on the Vtx!
@@ArxangelRC That goes without saying, but a rough, qualified estimate would suffice :-)
@@LEON_pilot Well... anything between 2 and 25kms is possible. Even more.
@@ArxangelRC Up to 25km without directional antenna? That would be an excellent result.
@@LEON_pilot Well, I am not sure how 25kms without directional antenna would be possible on 5.8Ghz!!!
sprig looking good in Shopsko :)
Hahaha, it is... a bit hot though! :)
Been offered one of these dirt cheap..shall i go ahead?
The Vtx? They are dirt cheap brand new... how much cheaper can it get? :P Sure... I have been pretty happy with them! Hoping yours would be working well... and is not dirt cheap because of some issue!
When will you be doing a Skywalker Titan
Hmmm... good question... not sure yet if I will be! We will see...
what type of antenna?
It is a Pagoda on the plane, and it was a helical on the receiver.
Bro what transmitter you yose for the akk?
The AKK X2 Ultimate IS the transmitter!
@@ArxangelRC sorry i mean the receiver*
@@Mike-sk7oh I am using the Boscam FR632, which has not been in production for a very long time!
Would you recommend it for a long range 5" quad?
no. you really don't need it. 600mw is fine for 5"
I ordered it anyway i just hope it fits :>
Hahaha, well... depends what you consider a long range! How far can you really get at 5"? In any case, at the same distance this one should give you better video signal, it does appear to be stronger than the 600mW one.
Yeah and if not i can always use it on the Talon as option
Sure... and you can tone it down, just in case you will not be trying to fly 20kms out! :)
Do you have a video on the fpv rx tracker?
Not sure I understand... the DVR of the received video? Or a video of the antenna tracker working?
ArxangelRC a video on how the tracker is setup
Yes, that is on my To-Do list, will get on it very soon! :)
ArxangelRC nice ! Thanks you very much
You are welcome! :)
It's FR632 in the video?
Yes, my receiver on the tracker is that one! :)
As far as i know every 5.8 GHz video transmitter uses the RichWave RTC6705 modulator which ouputs 20 mW.
For higher power its ouput is amplified with an rf amplifier. There is actrually only one affordable rf amplifier suitable for 5.8 GHz with around 1 W power ouput for about 10 dollars. Propably all 600 to 1200 mW 5.8 ghz video transmitter use the Analog Devices HMC408. Not until 40 to 60 dollars you get 2 W from the TriQuint TGA2706 and Analog Devices HMC7357 and 4 W for about 90 dollars with the Analog Devices HMC1121.
sky.geocities.jp/oumeastro/RTC6705-DST-001.pdf
www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/hmc408.pdf
www.qorvo.com/products/d/da004329
www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/hmc7357.pdf
www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/hmc1121.pdf
Interesting information... this just might be how they do it!
Hi friend how much distance can we achieve without using antenna tracker
Depends on quite a lot of stuff! What gear do you have?
@@ArxangelRC friend i have akk x2 vtx with pagoda antenna the same you are using and eachine ev800d with again the pagoda antenna and triple feed array patch antenna which you give in the description of the recent videos plz tell me the approx range. I can get woth this setup and your vodeos are great means best of all.
No idea without an antenna tracker... would depend on how accurate you can point it at the plane when it is at distance... but the further it goes out, the more difficult it will become to point it accurately! So I would say at least 10-20% less compared to WITH an antenna tracker!
@@ArxangelRC thank you friend
You are welcome!
Dear Arxangelrc! I live in Hungary, in europe like you. Please suggest a european shop for buying this or the 600mw version. I don't want to wait for this from china...
Hey... sorry for the late reply! HobbyKing is one option, if they have any in stock in the EU warehouse, if not... there are plenty of stores in Germany and the UK. I have rarely bought anything from Europe shops though... usually order stuff I need in advance... so they would arrive by the time I need them!
@@ArxangelRC Thank you! I will look around in these stores.
Cool!
Does this vtx include antenna?
I don't think so! And even if it did... it would be one of those useless plastic linear antennas that everybody throws out anyway!
ArxangelRC I bought the same vtx and antenna you shown in this video. And the heatsink as well. Did you remove the heatshrink on the vtx before attaching the heatsink on?
Yes, I removed some of it, and the stick below, in order to stick the heatsink directly to the metal!
Please test 2000 and 3000 milliwatt versions
I have a test on the 2000mW Dominator, it is in this video: czcams.com/video/5dBfR3WhmT4/video.html I also have the 3000mW AKK Vtx, will be testing it soon... has to stop snowing first!
@@ArxangelRC cool. I look forward to it . Have you ever flown in falling snow? 3000 might blast through it? :)
@@blackterminal Very few times, and only because it started snowing while I was flying, haven't take off while snowing for a full flight! :)
hi. band and channel ?
The link between the plane and the antenna tracker is on A3, that is 5825Mhz. Somebody mentioned that actually Vtx output on that frequency is a bit less than 1W, but on R1 supposedly it is 1900mW!!!