Last year a DJI engineer said the full sized Air units can go up to 3500mW but they overheat if the ambient temp is too warm so they settled on 1200mW as max naco.txt unlockable. I hope once someone cracks the firmware there's a power mod in the future. 😄
@@mikehunt2667 FPVWTF produced the margerine hack recently and features are being unlocked. Livyu did a teardown a while back though and 2 of 4 RF amplifier chips are missing from the Air unit board. It's possible a max of only 1.75 watts will be available.
Hi, I also have an Akk Ultra Long Range VTX and I had, until today, the problem of noise on the video. I also installed the LC filter without obtaining positive results. Today it came to my mind that I could feed the CAM directly from the VTX, so I detached the power of the CAM from the Matek and I took the power from the OUT of the VTX. The noise magically disappeared!
I was thinking of using this vtx on my rc car for fpv. One question I have is if im just using a fpv camera (only video no audio from camera) will the vtx transmit audio to my goggles if nothing is pluged in to the smart audio wire? I saw there is smart audio wire but I dont know anything about that or if its the same as a normal audio wire out of a vtx. Or in other words is there built in audo on this vtx that transmits to goggles? Thanks this would be very helpful to know im new to fpv.😁 Or maybe I need a seperate mic that pluggs into the smart audio wire but idk im new to this. ALL INFO HELPS!!☺️😁🙂😀
great video. thanks. i ordered this vtx after watching your review. the reason for this order is to achieve 15km long range as i am doing 8km with my emersion rc vtx 600mw. just using my 13dbi patch on my goggles. I don't want to use any ground stations as the lower frequency requires.
Big question here you have to ask, is that horrific noise on the feed created internally by the VTX itself?....Filter the vtx power using a decent LC filter, although you will need a high capacity one. I wouldn't buy it based on the noise alone...So, this warrants another trial I would suggest at least.
It is possible and likely that the noise is coming from the esc. This could easily be solved with a cap or a small LC filter from the board to vtx. That actual break up static at range is what I’m looking for.
@@vickalanis9117 Of course the ESC is an obvious source of noise...but for example, some vtxs also provide a stepped down 5v supply for your camera. These can also inject noise into your camera..Most, if not all my vtxs have LC filters filtering DC supply to them...Then again, I use 1.2g long range video, so static breakup is a rarity for me.. It's noticeable that the noise level went up as more RF power was selected...🤔😳🇬🇧
@@vickalanis9117 If you power your VTX or camera from your FC ( I do the same) then I also protect the FC from ESC noise by filtering vbatt using an LC Filter...Noise on your FC has potentially worse consequences..You can see some ultra clean live video feed on my channel..For the same reason, I never use onboard amp counters on the FC either...Vbatt tells its own story, don't need amp counters...
It does have a microphone on board so maybe what you're hearing are the motors, props, and wind noise. I know for sure that some of that is wind noise.
Nice. Thank you for sharing. Hey, Did someone saw the bird that was following the drone? After the 3km mark you turned around and check it in slow motion. At minute 8:24 😁😉👌 lucky bird.,😉
lol 130°C!?!? I've never seen electronics get so hot. 80-90°C on a CPU, GPU or something else on computers and things go into thermal protection, shutdown, etc. That's crazy hot.
I have never heard of this. Interesting. I want to know how they are getting that much power. I mainly don’t see a need for that much power. Lower frequency’s will work much better. Thanks for the testing I really enjoy it!
hello congratulations for your video, I noticed that you have diagonal lines a bit annoying. and I bought two because I thought the first akk 3000 mw was defective, I mounted a 5A 5 / 36v filter on the power supply and the problem remained. I also mounted the same filter on the cam power supply and the problem remained. I powered the cam directly from the VTX AND UL PROBLEM I solved it but the OSD indications are no longer seen on the glasses, the vtx will also run 10 km but the video is bad. it costs little and is worth less.
Interesting to hear. Why didnt you input the video signal into the fc and took the video out for the fc? would this mean you get OSD and the noise problem is fixed? Pls answer your comment is very interesting.
Hi, I also have an Akk Ultra Long Range VTX and I had, until today, the problem of noise on the video. I also installed the LC filter without obtaining positive results. Today it came to my mind that I could feed the CAM directly from the VTX, so I detached the power of the CAM from the Matek and I took the power from the OUT of the VTX. The noise magically disappeared! The video signal instead passes through the FC.
I think this would benefit from its own personal psu.. and also used in a wing or plane to get maximum benefits. Great videos though and a beast of a product..👍🏽
I had no idea this existed.....when you are flying at 3W, the FPV cam shows tons of interference - maybe it needs more shielding ....overall - I would buy it for a 7" LR quad
I picked up a couple of the old 2W ones wen they came out and have still never used them ones still in the plastic, this is tempting again but I can't say I really need one wen I haven't even used to old ones yet although its always good to have a novelty item on hand for that ohhhh hoodoo moment years later! 🥃cheers🍻
Hi One quick question. How to set up the VTX table for this transmitter? Only manually or is the a site where i can download this particular table? Thanks on advance. Love your reviews...😊
3000mW (3W) should be able to go a lot further than 3km. I can go out on 1W (1000mW) to 4km no problem, probably go further. With a quad, battery will run low long before you use all 3000mW especially if you use a ground station. Now the penetration may be huge through trees and maybe even concrete, not sure.
It's just the right size for a quadcopter and has great power output but that noise even on the lower power levels is concerning. Will you test it again on the build you said you were planing and give it some more filtering?
Can you pls tell in which pin on SpeedyBee f405 v3 i should solder 8-28V input from this AKK? Cuz when i switch to 3W VTX doesn't work. I solder to 9V out and it works perfectly fine with 250mW, 1W, 2W, but not with a 3W, should i use BAT instead?
i have just bought one, very weak power, less than the akk race range, but i think it has a problem or i didnt power up. good, becouse ut remains cold.... why?
@@KremerFPV sorry for commenting twice... you are so impressive though - making quality videos with lots of info in them and replying to every comment. I dont know how you juggle everything but I am glad you do! Thank you! if you ever need an extra idea for your videos you should give us a small tour of your area since its somewhere i will probably never make it to but would love to see :) love ya brother!
@@diaryrecorded5524 No need to be sorry. I do what I can and hopefully I will be able to keep doing so :-) Thanks for the idea. I think that you get to visit my area in many of the videos that I post. Thanks again for your support and take care!
What size is your attenuator ? And do you have to put the size of the attenuator in the RF meter ? . I just got one and I want to get accurate measurements.
why this lot of interference? This fan cause the interference? I´ve seen a big difference on imagem quality between akk fx2 dominator (2w) and akk x2 ultimate when I´m at more than 5km far (mutch more noise on akk x2). Can you say that akk ultra long range has better image quality?
I should get ⅔ of that with 1 watt . But maybe my battery dies down in a minute . I don't fly that high . Seems like a sensitive reciever would make the most difference . Did you mention locked settings or expected vtx lifetime ?
Gal, that is some crazy range for 5.8 Ghz 3Km!! ,but looks like there was too many noise in the video what was that ? vtx or the motors or FC inducing those banding like lines. i saw some other nice footage from other less powerfull VTX's like those RUSH units. just wondering ( rolo scratching his head )
Hola amigo! Actually, you can get much farther with this VTX. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/K9nggMRSNS0/video.html I think that it would be better to power the FPV camera using the 5v output of the VTX and maybe use an LC filter, depending on the setup.
Pretty impressive VTX, Gal!!! 😮 I need something like that to use in rc cars, but... Well, I want to use with a RunCam Split 4, which uses 25x25mm mounting holes. 😕 So... I don't know what to do yet. 😬 Anyway, great review! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Where is this overkill vtx used for at this point like you said your battery will drain before you can even get at the max range of this video transmitter and i supose fpv freestyle or racing it may be too heavy and if you would fly with others the vtx would have no point
Broadcasting with such power in most cases makes no sense. The heat will generate a lot of electrical noise and disturb all other users. Good antennas and a good receiver often do a better job. Thanks for the always interesting video.
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New test is up: czcams.com/video/K9nggMRSNS0/video.html
I power this on.. everyone in my building loses wifi lmao
Crazy man
Ahahah, you're something of an WiFi hacker yourself!
LMAOROTF
LOL
🤣
Last year a DJI engineer said the full sized Air units can go up to 3500mW but they overheat if the ambient temp is too warm so they settled on 1200mW as max naco.txt unlockable. I hope once someone cracks the firmware there's a power mod in the future. 😄
Dot!
Well that's interesting.
Keep me posted !
@@mikehunt2667 FPVWTF produced the margerine hack recently and features are being unlocked. Livyu did a teardown a while back though and 2 of 4 RF amplifier chips are missing from the Air unit board. It's possible a max of only 1.75 watts will be available.
Great review this will be perfect for my whoop 👌
Should give excellent reception even when behind the sofa you are sitting on 🤣
@@changeagent228 LoL.. Hahahahahaha 😆😂😂😋👌
LOL
I have to try this one. I'm not into DJI yet. Great video.
Thanks for watching
Finally! A vtx that delivers on its rated specs. And up to 3 watts!!!
Long range improvement of 73% is a lot.
100km to 170km is a huge step.
100 km at what power !!
I never had a chance to use 1W of my tbs unify pro32.
Now AKK had 3W vtx ... OMG
I can start my own TV broadcasting station with this LOL.
not mW
@@dimarusful haaa you are right .. typo 👍
I can feel my brain cells warming up and frying just watching this haha!
LOL
just bought this today for some mountain surfing long range. thanks Gal, you rock!!
Happy flying!
Hi, I also have an Akk Ultra Long Range VTX and I had, until today, the problem of noise on the video. I also installed the LC filter without obtaining positive results. Today it came to my mind that I could feed the CAM directly from the VTX, so I detached the power of the CAM from the Matek and I took the power from the OUT of the VTX. The noise magically disappeared!
Great! I am glad to hear it solved your problem, thanks for sharing this information.
Lo mismo me paso a mi con un vtx. Tuve que conectarlo directo y funciono
I was thinking of using this vtx on my rc car for fpv. One question I have is if im just using a fpv camera (only video no audio from camera) will the vtx transmit audio to my goggles if nothing is pluged in to the smart audio wire? I saw there is smart audio wire but I dont know anything about that or if its the same as a normal audio wire out of a vtx. Or in other words is there built in audo on this vtx that transmits to goggles? Thanks this would be very helpful to know im new to fpv.😁 Or maybe I need a seperate mic that pluggs into the smart audio wire but idk im new to this. ALL INFO HELPS!!☺️😁🙂😀
Even got its own fan. Nice
Well it's a must :-)
The cooling system seems to work very well surprised it kept it's output power about the same
This is going in my new plane. Thank you.
Enjoy it!
great video. thanks. i ordered this vtx after watching your review. the reason for this order is to achieve 15km long range as i am doing 8km with my emersion rc vtx 600mw. just using my 13dbi patch on my goggles. I don't want to use any ground stations as the lower frequency requires.
Thank you! Enjoy your new VTX and happy flying!
Nice, thanks for the video
Glad I could help!
Big question here you have to ask, is that horrific noise on the feed created internally by the VTX itself?....Filter the vtx power using a decent LC filter, although you will need a high capacity one. I wouldn't buy it based on the noise alone...So, this warrants another trial I would suggest at least.
It is possible and likely that the noise is coming from the esc. This could easily be solved with a cap or a small LC filter from the board to vtx. That actual break up static at range is what I’m looking for.
@@vickalanis9117 Of course the ESC is an obvious source of noise...but for example, some vtxs also provide a stepped down 5v supply for your camera. These can also inject noise into your camera..Most, if not all my vtxs have LC filters filtering DC supply to them...Then again, I use 1.2g long range video, so static breakup is a rarity for me..
It's noticeable that the noise level went up as more RF power was selected...🤔😳🇬🇧
@@EnglishTurbines I wouldn’t know as I always power my camera to a FC on both quads and fixed wing.
@@vickalanis9117 If you power your VTX or camera from your FC ( I do the same) then I also protect the FC from ESC noise by filtering vbatt using an LC Filter...Noise on your FC has potentially worse consequences..You can see some ultra clean live video feed on my channel..For the same reason, I never use onboard amp counters on the FC either...Vbatt tells its own story, don't need amp counters...
It does have a microphone on board so maybe what you're hearing are the motors, props, and wind noise. I know for sure that some of that is wind noise.
For fixed wing ... this will give quite good image at at least 45km ranges ...
Pack a few more cells on board Florian.. Cheers mate.
Great tutorial, very precise!
Thank you!
Youre killibg the battery dude
Nice. Thank you for sharing. Hey, Did someone saw the bird that was following the drone? After the 3km mark you turned around and check it in slow motion. At minute 8:24 😁😉👌 lucky bird.,😉
Thanks for the new info. Definitely looking to maybe getting it but still using TBS Unify.
My pleasure :-)
lol 130°C!?!? I've never seen electronics get so hot. 80-90°C on a CPU, GPU or something else on computers and things go into thermal protection, shutdown, etc. That's crazy hot.
its cool but I get 3km on 200mw now. Dont think it was pushed in this vid.
Check out this video: czcams.com/video/K9nggMRSNS0/video.html
I have never heard of this. Interesting. I want to know how they are getting that much power. I mainly don’t see a need for that much power. Lower frequency’s will work much better. Thanks for the testing I really enjoy it!
I am glad you enjoyed the video. Lower frequency is the way to go for extreme long range flights but it requires non common equipment.
hello congratulations for your video, I noticed that you have diagonal lines a bit annoying. and I bought two because I thought the first akk 3000 mw was defective, I mounted a 5A 5 / 36v filter on the power supply and the problem remained. I also mounted the same filter on the cam power supply and the problem remained. I powered the cam directly from the VTX AND UL PROBLEM I solved it but the OSD indications are no longer seen on the glasses, the vtx will also run 10 km but the video is bad. it costs little and is worth less.
Interesting to hear. Why didnt you input the video signal into the fc and took the video out for the fc? would this mean you get OSD and the noise problem is fixed? Pls answer your comment is very interesting.
Try solder a wire from negative pad of the esc to any ground pad of the fc
Hi, I also have an Akk Ultra Long Range VTX and I had, until today, the problem of noise on the video. I also installed the LC filter without obtaining positive results. Today it came to my mind that I could feed the CAM directly from the VTX, so I detached the power of the CAM from the Matek and I took the power from the OUT of the VTX. The noise magically disappeared! The video signal instead passes through the FC.
I think this would benefit from its own personal psu.. and also used in a wing or plane to get maximum benefits. Great videos though and a beast of a product..👍🏽
Thanks Kyle. I posted an updated video, feel free to check it out.
@@KremerFPV definitely..will do mate. 👍🏽
I had no idea this existed.....when you are flying at 3W, the FPV cam shows tons of interference - maybe it needs more shielding ....overall - I would buy it for a 7" LR quad
Seems this would put a strain on the battery life per session.
Duno -but I ordered me one to try it should drop right in my rig. I have the akk ultimate now. Wish me luck
Let me know how you like it
I picked up a couple of the old 2W ones wen they came out and have still never used them ones still in the plastic, this is tempting again but I can't say I really need one wen I haven't even used to old ones yet although its always good to have a novelty item on hand for that ohhhh hoodoo moment years later!
🥃cheers🍻
Hi One quick question. How to set up the VTX table for this transmitter? Only manually or is the a site where i can download this particular table? Thanks on advance. Love your reviews...😊
So is it worth to buy for long range? or any better alternative?
Wow 3km, i wonder how this vtx penetration thru trees and concrete bando will perform? Great review as always. Cheers 😊
Thats not very impressive, I can go 3km easy on 200mw ;D
3000mW (3W) should be able to go a lot further than 3km. I can go out on 1W (1000mW) to 4km no problem, probably go further. With a quad, battery will run low long before you use all 3000mW especially if you use a ground station. Now the penetration may be huge through trees and maybe even concrete, not sure.
Yes this VTX can get much farther than 3KM.
800mw 2.7km easy..
600mw got me 5km
Please build fix wing & inav to test these kind of products. thanks for your contents. always helpful. cheers
Thanks buddy. I wish I could fly one :-/
does anyone know how much the pitch of the cable jst 6 pin for vtx akk ultra long range?
Nice long range flight my bro... 🖐️😄👍
Thanks ✌
It's just the right size for a quadcopter and has great power output but that noise even on the lower power levels is concerning.
Will you test it again on the build you said you were planing and give it some more filtering?
For now I tested it in a standalone setup (link in the pinned comment).
Can you pls tell in which pin on SpeedyBee f405 v3 i should solder 8-28V input from this AKK? Cuz when i switch to 3W VTX doesn't work. I solder to 9V out and it works perfectly fine with 250mW, 1W, 2W, but not with a 3W, should i use BAT instead?
Can you see ghosts with the heat signature camera?
lol
IRC Ghost
@@marc_frank no spooky ghost
Sure, if you look close enough.
please can you do some penetration tests? Nobody seems to do these...
3 km? Wow!
lol
You can get much farther of course.
Will this work on radiolink crossflight - port says osd.. slowly buying all the parts i need for my phoenix 2400.
which camera are you using, the colors seem very good.
i have just bought one, very weak power, less than the akk race range, but i think it has a problem or i didnt power up. good, becouse ut remains cold.... why?
Gal does it look like this and the 2w vtx are just the same as the fx2 1.2w but with different heat sinks and firmware?
I am not sure but it's possible.
thank you! I finally got it and set it up mostly :) do you know if it displays voltage in any of the OSD options? I couldn't get my OSD to work yet...
Replied to your other comment ;-)
@@KremerFPV sorry for commenting twice... you are so impressive though - making quality videos with lots of info in them and replying to every comment. I dont know how you juggle everything but I am glad you do! Thank you! if you ever need an extra idea for your videos you should give us a small tour of your area since its somewhere i will probably never make it to but would love to see :) love ya brother!
@@diaryrecorded5524 No need to be sorry. I do what I can and hopefully I will be able to keep doing so :-)
Thanks for the idea. I think that you get to visit my area in many of the videos that I post. Thanks again for your support and take care!
Thank you for this video. What a nice village you are living. Where are you from?
Thanks, Israel.
@@KremerFPV Loves from Turkey 🥰
@@MehmetORHAN_ELT Peace and love :-)
Cool flying through the truck trailer. I liked that
Thanks!
Gday Gal, that things a beast 3W, who would us this thing plus its heavier than my mob 6 hd with the battery lol, great info awsome review mate.👍🛸
LOL. Thanks mate, take care!
What size is your attenuator ? And do you have to put the size of the attenuator in the RF meter ? . I just got one and I want to get accurate measurements.
good stuff thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video thank u
Very welcome
why this lot of interference? This fan cause the interference? I´ve seen a big difference on imagem quality between akk fx2 dominator (2w) and akk x2 ultimate when I´m at more than 5km far (mutch more noise on akk x2). Can you say that akk ultra long range has better image quality?
Please watch my new test: czcams.com/video/K9nggMRSNS0/video.html
I should get ⅔ of that with 1 watt . But maybe my battery dies down in a minute . I don't fly that high . Seems like a sensitive reciever would make the most difference .
Did you mention locked settings or expected vtx lifetime ?
Hi, the VTX is unlocked out of the box. Not sure about it’s lifetime expectancy.
How much voltage you use for input to this vtx ? You can see see the black line appear in the video ? diagonal lines. since 250mw and so on .
I’m pretty sure that it was powered using a 9V BEC.
Gal, that is some crazy range for 5.8 Ghz 3Km!! ,but looks like there was too many noise in the video what was that ? vtx or the motors or FC inducing those banding like lines. i saw some other nice footage from other less powerfull VTX's like those RUSH units. just wondering ( rolo scratching his head )
Hola amigo! Actually, you can get much farther with this VTX.
Check out this video: czcams.com/video/K9nggMRSNS0/video.html
I think that it would be better to power the FPV camera using the 5v output of the VTX and maybe use an LC filter, depending on the setup.
hello! Can I ask you what frame and Flight controller you use? Thank you
well, does this vtx increase the fly distance of the remote control besides the camera?
No, the radio control link is not related to the VTX.
Pretty impressive VTX, Gal!!! 😮
I need something like that to use in rc cars, but... Well, I want to use with a RunCam Split 4, which uses 25x25mm mounting holes. 😕
So... I don't know what to do yet. 😬
Anyway, great review! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Haha, you will figure it out Mario. Take care :-)
The only thing that I don't like on it is mmcx and another connector on the same side
How do you switch between 500 mw to 1 watt,- 2, - 3 ?
how do you set power output without smart audio?
Do you know where I can get the VTX tables for this? I have purchased the vtx but I am unable to activate the 3000mw mode in betaflight, thanks
My VTX table did not work for you?
@@KremerFPV worked perfectly, thanks!
@@jamjampoiness8309 Great!
Would this be a good option for flywoo explorer?
Sure :-)
Where is this overkill vtx used for at this point like you said your battery will drain before you can even get at the max range of this video transmitter and i supose fpv freestyle or racing it may be too heavy and if you would fly with others the vtx would have no point
Broadcasting with such power in most cases makes no sense. The heat will generate a lot of electrical noise and disturb all other users. Good antennas and a good receiver often do a better job. Thanks for the always interesting video.
I agree with you, it's definitely not for everyone but it's good to have different options.
why is there noise in the video when flying at 3 watt
Noise from motors and electronic components. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/K9nggMRSNS0/video.html
For the power picture not that good is it
Check out my pinned comment.
What is your camera in this video?
Foxeer Predator v3.
@@KremerFPV Thanks so much
They dont need remote ID if you have this.
can it fit on my Flywoo Explorer LR4 ?
It will be a bit oversized but it can.
Why i see a black lines on my goggle ?
Maybe you have some power issues.
@@KremerFPV yeah..it's very annoying . i dont know how to fix that
Hey buddy. How do I know what power level I'm at?
Hi, did you check the user manual?
There should be LEDs on the VTX that indicate the power level.
If you can't find it I will try to help you out.
Damn too heavy for explorer lr
where did u get that thermal camera?
bit.ly/DaniuHY18
Does the fan turn on automatically?
Yes.
5,800mhz will never be a long range video system....lol...it's just a fact.
This is 5.8GHz not MHz
@@WickdPerfekT 5,800 MHz is 5.8G.
Do you realise what a fool you are?...🤔🙄🇬🇧
@@EnglishTurbines yeah 5.8mHz would be nice, range of about 45000 miles :)
@@FasterThanJesus666 Yeah, my bad...lol...🤔😀🇬🇧
What brands have a onboard filter?
Many brands (RushFPV, HGLRC, TBS and more).
Monster vtx, 3000 mw. The signal is not only clear to the eye but can even penetrate the brain, lol ...
LOL
Lack of noise filter is a definite deal breaker.........
First !!
The noise in the video is way to distracting to be expected with such high output
I suggest using an LC filter. Check out the pinned comment.
Does increasing the power of VTX affects the flight time?
It will affect the power consumption but on a big battery it won't have a very big affect.
3000MHz??? Holy crap
Mw?????
Miguel Boisvert got excited lol
mW
Hobby Grade thanks for the correction smart ass
@@miguelboisvert7375 any time dipshit
Very high level of noises...
Please see my new test (linked in the pinned comment)
Hi Gal, nice for plane or win, but line on screen 👎
Hi, see my new test which is linked in the pinned comment.
@@KremerFPV Yes 😉
Guaranteed to get you up to 50km before you pass out from radiation poisoning.
LOL
Deam this battery.
It was ok :-)
Horrible noise in the feed.
See my new test (link in the pinned comment).
Thats one noisey setup..just go dji lol.
Wow that video interference is horrible I would never buy that