How Trading Kent Nilsson In 1985 Led To The Flames Acquiring Two NHL Hall Of Famers | Trade Trees
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2021
- Steve. Dangle takes a look back at how a small trade made by the Calgary Flames in 1985 led to their franchise acquiring two NHL Hall Of Famers in Joe Nieuwendyk and Jarome iginla.
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Can't wait for a Jack Eichel trade tree in like 10 years
Or Connor McDavid trade Tree in 10 years bitter Sabres fan right here do this trains going to happen but let's let's work on the Sam Reinhart trade tree first
Nahhh the Mitch Marner trade tree in 20 years is gonna be better
At this rate it's going now Eichel's contract will expire before there is a trade.
It’s the EK65 one for me
The tree will still be growing in 10 years
I’ve missed new trade trees and as a Flames fan I am doubly excited.
Doubly 😂
Also, ironic to hear Matteau without the MATTEAU MATTEAU MATTEAU mention.
Yeah that was very anticlimactic
i was saying that in my head when his name popped up lol
That’s not irony
I think there’s a clip of a reporter betting Kent he couldn’t hit the cross bar from the blue line or maybe center on 3 attempts he does it with ease on his first shot and kinda smirks and skates off it’s great
Sports reporter was Gary Arthur.
czcams.com/video/CQe1anhVLd8/video.html
Its at the end of the clip... Before that Gretzky, B Hull, Hawerchuck all spoke of him as one the most talanted players they´ve met. :)
I think Gretzky said Nilsson was the highest skilled player he played with. Not sure though.
It was true, from center ice dot hit it first shot but the look was more "Anything else?".
Mr magic was his nickname and there was a reason for that. Insanely talented player who could embarrass any goalie. The 1994 Olympic gold medal shootout between CAN Vs SWE with the famous Forsberg one is copied from Nilsson from a WC hockey championship game back in 85 if I remember correctly. I say it again, Mr Magic.
As a life long flame fan I was born in cgy in 85 iginla was our best guy in the 90s glad he played most of his career here and his jersey retirement ceremony was special my two all time favourite flames will always be iginla and kipper
Everyone's top two all time Flames should be Iggy and somebody
Who the hell is Kent Nilsson? He's the Original Magic Man, that's who...
Lol
Nice name
greatest pure talent I ever watched lace up skate--he would pick Gretzky's pocket everytime. Amazing player
Mr magic
He has the point in one season record for swedish players in the nhl
I was SHOCKED he said that too. There was a time when Nilsson was a superstar, Gretzky said he was the most talented player he ever played against
One of my favorite all time players...the magic man!
Stephane Matteau is actually the father of Stefan Mr. Dangle
Dangle doesn’t actually know anything about hockey. You should see him try to skate
@@BigDaddy-vq5ks you can know stuff about hockey and not be good at it
@@BigDaddy-vq5ks this comment is a dang it
Not having Iggy pop up when you made that call at the end was a missed opportunity Steve #victorypuppy
Kent Nilsson might be one of the most underrated players in NHL HISTORY. He had 131 points one season, the Flames franchise record. Back in the day Gretzky said Kent Nilsson was the most skilled player he ever played against. Nilsson also had 2 dominant years in the WHA & when Nilsson went to Edmonton, which was one of the weirdest things ever to see (think of Gretzky or Messier in a Flames jersey), Kent played on a line with Messier and Anderson which was one of the coolest and most talented lines in Oilers history
Kent Nilsson was a beast. "The Forsberg" from the 94 olympics shootout is actually "The Kenta Nilsson".
Didn't Peter Say in an interview that that's where he got the idea from?
@@neroameealucard945 kent nilsson did it in a game against usa in 1989 i think
So excited about the trade tree videos coming. Take care and enjoy your time away Steve!
THANK YOU!!!!!! So happy to see these back.
Trade trees are back!!! They are amazing and wonderful to watch. Always very informative and give a great history on the historic players involved and shows how much the league has changed in its history
Fun fact for y'all: Kent Nilsson inspired Peter Forsberg's trademark penalty shot 😊
Kent Nilsson is also the original "Magic man" in the NHL, SUCH an underrated player. 131 points one year, 3rd in scoring only Gretzky and Marcel Dionne were higher that year
Taking a look at the Craig Rivet to SJ trade tree would be interesting.
From a Montreal perspective, definitely... Craig Rivet ends up landing Nick Suzuki and Mattias Norlinder
I like that you added music to these videos. Fun!
Man I love these videos! Can’t wait to see what crazy ones you have lined up Steve! Blow leafs blow
Wow I really really like the new intro and thumbnail. It looks so cool
Keep these coming! Best content you put out.
Thank you for this.
Every time i see “trade tree” I know I’m going to have a good time
As a Stars fan, it would've been cool as hell to see Iginla as in a Stars jersey, but the Stars got a cup and Conn Smythe winner in that trade. So, I'd say both teams were winners there. I still have my Nieuwendyk signed Stars shirsey on my wall I've had since I was 6 when I got to meet him.
I’m an oilers fan but iggy was and always will be my fav hockey player of all time. My idol growing up. Everything a hockey player should be on and off the ice! Thanks Steve!
Super excited for the Ryan O'Reilly trade tree; the second round pick that the Blues sent to the Sabres in 2021 changed hands 4 times before it got used so it should be a fun watch.
I completely didn't know about the Stars-Nilsson part of this one, I did the Flames-Stars tree out, fascinating win now trade
Steve with the beard tho 🔥 very nice buddy, also cool graphics, dig the sky blue
probably my favourite non playing fact about Iginla is that he loved being in Boston so much he moved there and still lives there today
There was even a moment of him on a Boston news report during a snowstorm and they did not even know who he was 😂
It also started with a Nilson and ended with a Nielson
I suggest the Phil Esposito trade to Boston in 1968. I don't know how complex the tree would be, but the initial trade is one of the most ridiculously unbalanced trades ever.
Isn't this trade tree still going because I remember it goin to a draft pick that was Milan licic
@@rhaspados666 You're thinking of the trade of Barry Pederson from Boston to Vancouver for Cam Neely and a first-round pick. This trade is also one of the most lopsided in history. The pick was used to draft Glen Wesley. He was traded to Carolina for the pick to draft Sergei Samsonov, who was traded to Edmonton for the pick to get Milan Lucic.
@@JPMadden ah ok I was mistakem
I hope there’s a Sedin draft day trade tree
And that bad boy actually rolls backwards into Trevor Linden to NYI trade tree. It’s a doozy that spans nearly 20 years.
The fact that you emphasize that Iginla won the Rocket Richard *twice* just shows how absolutely incredilbe Alex Ovechkin has been
Very interesting trade tree with some huge NHL stars. One mistake you made though was Joe Nieuwendyk scored 51 goals in his fantastic rookie season, not 55.
Kent Nilsson in the 87 playoffs was fantastic for Edmonton. He was so great that the only way The Flyers could slow him down in The Finals was Ron Hextall doing his Paul Bunyan imitation on Nilsson's leg.
As for the Nieuwendyk/Iginla trade I remember that very well. (I'm 52 and remember things like this!) Dallas traded a top prospect (Iginla) for the current superstar they needed to help win The Cup (Nieuwendyk). Calgary was rebuilding and wanted young talent for old, which is what they got in abundance.
I’m happy the trade trees are back
You're back!!!! ;)
Commenting before the video starts. I LOVE trade trees and I’m glad they’re back!
Iginla is my favourite non- LEAFS! player since Bobby Orr . Yes that includes Gretsky.
Steve Dangle Have a nice time off! Love the Trade Tree stuff !
coming from a Kamloops Blazers (WHL) fan, knowing that Iggy and Doaner were 1 and 2 in scoring in their draft class is really neat
I know you did a Pronger trade tree, but that all started with Shanahan and Pronger. Blues trading Brendan Shanahan led to the Blues winning a Stanley Cup 14 years later.
Shanahan for Pronger 1 for 1. Shanahan then went on to Detroit, Pronger went on to Edmonton which then gave the Blues Brewer who the Blues then used to get a 3rd round pick from Tampa Bay who turned out to be Jordan Binnington.
The trade tree for the 1979 Dave Semenko trade between the Oilers and North Stars, encompasses a large part of this trade tree plus Mark Messier.
Omg I love this one. I’ve missed tirade trees !!!
Some awesome trees are the Cam Neely tree, and the Ron Francis to Pittsburgh tree, which is larger than the Lindros one iirc
Dangle just made me feel old. 1985 - I was 14...
Gotta luv a trade tree that mentions the Missing Link!
Yeah, he was a Real Man
The epitome of toughness
Kent Nilsson was my favorite Flame growing up. Hands down!
Everyone in Calgary loved Kent Nilsson I remember crying as a kid when I heard he got traded and we didn't even get Dino the dinosaur in return
Flames fans need this, it’s your moment, I’ll let you have it.
Great content! Go flames go!
funny how your team is still named after a fire in Atlanta.....
I still remember when Aaron Ward announced on TSN Iginla has been traded to Boston, and then Iginla was actually traded to Pittsburgh like an hour later.
I was at the saddle dome catching a Hitmen game, they put the Boston deal up on the Big screen, then had to make an announcement later that it was changed.
I've suggested the Brett Hull trade tree before, but I'll do it again because:
-It's another Flames trade, albeit one that _didn't_ really pan out for them in the end;
-Based on the players Calgary got, I'm pretty sure it would also involve the Doug Gilmour trade tree;
-I think the initial trade would be a very good example of how a team can arguably both win _and_ lose a trade.
Flames got a Stanley Cup so I'd say it worked out.
@@Dr.Frankensteen - Oh they absolutely did, but that's exactly my point and precisely why I think it would be an interesting trade tree: "We won... but at what cost?"
gilmour was the first piece acquired in '86. cliff fletcher wasn't afraid to make trades. Even if it cost him brett hull or trading gary leeman for gilmour.
@@mcj88 I mean winning the Cup is the ultimate prize. Yes they could have had another HOF player, but they got what they wanted.
Your concept is an interesting one though so definitely points there. One of the bigger recent ones I can think of are the Bruins trading Blake Wheeler and Mark Stuart for Peverly and Valabik. Bruins gave up the best player by far yet got the result they wanted. Wheeler isn't a HOF player but it's notable.
@@stevenbauer4799 - just for the record I meant the Doug Gilmour to _Toronto_ trade tree. :P
Yessss finally new trade trees
Yes!! More trade trees!!
Love these... Still waiting for him to back me up with Linden to NYI = Luongo and Sedins to VAN. I think it still conforms to the rules.
Iginla is an All Timer, but many forget about his equally impressive MMA career under the name Wanderlai Silva
Iginla is an absolute legend and a class act.
Yes!!! TT's are back Jack!
FINALLY ! BEEN WAITING FOREVER FOR THESE
I can't hear Matteau without screaming Matteaauuuu Mattteaauuuuu. Was kinda surprised we didn't get that goal in here
Matteau didn't get anything said about him. just a key player in the 1993-94 Stanley cup
Didn't win a Conn Smythe though.
Do an Ales Hemsky trade tree, not just from when he was an Oiler, but how we got to the point of drafting him. That one's unique cause it involves Arnott, Guerin, Carter, etc.
One trade tree I can’t wait to see how it turns out is the the Seth Jones/Ryan Johansen trade tree. This could be very interesting in about 10 to 20 years.
So I have a trade tree idea I researched up last night:
How Trading Adam Foote at the '08 Deadline got them Adam Boqvist, Jake Bean, Cole Sillinger and the recent David Savard Deadline Deal to Tampa and the Seth Jones deal to Chicago are connected.
I STILL remember watching the old TSN channel ( channel 15 in halifax at the time) on a program called Rinkside where they had a segment where it was Darren Pang and Joe Nieuwendyk competing for the top spot.. maybe in the draft?? I really cant remember specifically .
BUT what i do remember specifically is Darren wearing a shirt saying 'Pang, because its easier to spell than Nieuwendyk' and that was his pitch.
Albeit it was most likely a joke between friends perhaps at the time, and Im guessing you could find Darren or Joe and ask them yourselves somehow .
Another odd fact was Nilsson was drafted TWICE by the Flames; first as Torbjorn Nilsson (NOT his name so the selection was invalid) and then as Kent Nilsson the next year higher up in the draft. Wayne Gretzky was very complementary about him in an interview about the most skilled players he had ever seen in the NHL. He still holds the team single season points and assist records for the Flames...over 30 years later.
In the end, everyone won. Good trade tree.
You should do a Sydney Crosby Trade Tree next! I just love the intricacies of his career :)
Don’t think there’s a tree for that one
Worth pointing out that Kent Nilsson is tenth all time in career points per game, ahead of guys like Esposito and Lafleur
As Nieuwendyk said, the cup just followed him around to the different teams he played for
Steve just likes to make us happy
i know you've already done a Ron Francis trade tree, but the '91 Ron Francis trade between the Whalers and Penguins lead to the Penguins drafting Marc-Andre Fleury and the Hurricanes getting Rod Brind'amour
Can you do the Teemu Selanne trade tree from Winnipeg to Anaheim?
Just for reference, the Matteau in the trade tree is the father on the one he said was playing for CBJ, but I think hes with the Avs now
I love the digs at Tampa every time. #GoBolts
Funny thing about Iggy not going to Boston in 2013? "I had NO IDEA how great of a player David Krejci was! Had I known I would've gone there." BUT, Iggy wasn't going to be playing with DK in 2013! He was going to play with Bergy & Marchand. Julian was NOT going to break up the DK, Horton & Lucic line barring an injury. So Jagr wouldn't have come to Boston to help the B's on another run. It would've been interesting to see Iggy with Bergeron & Marchand that year.
Steve that 2010 ticket is such a flex. Is it for the gold medal game ?
Have you done the messier trade tree? If I'm not mistaken that one just ended last year or 2 from the early 90s didn't it?
I hope I get to see one of Taylor hall and Erik karlsson trade tree in a few years
Kent Nilsson was known as the "Magic Man" even Wayne Gretzky said he thought Gilbert Perreault was the most skillful player in the NHL, until he saw Kent Nilsson played!
Please do the Craig Rivet trade! Done in 2006 and still having effect today for Montréal.
Can you do the Halak-Miller trade tree that contains goalies upon goalies
Just started watching the video but i had to stop for this comment. Steve (I think think that's your name), Kent Nilsson was a SUPERSTAR back in the day, not just a "Star", he was a "SUPERSTAR". Gretzky, Dionne, Bossy, Trottier and Kent Nilsson were the Superstars in the early 80s
I'm a bit confused. You called this the Iginla trade tree but chose to start with not the Iginla trade and because of that we don't see the Stars side of the Iginla trade play out 🤔
Love the videos, though, keep 'em up!
Joe Nieuwendyk didn't have 55 goals as a rookie like the video claims, he had 51 goals and fell 2 goals shy of tying Mike Bossy's rookie goal record of 53 goals. Temmu Selanne ended up beating Bossys record a few years later with 76 goals.
Wait a minute. Ristolainen got a first round pick but a point a game player for over half a decade and a third was worth 2 seconds?? The hell did it take to get a first round pick back then? Lol
stephan matteau scored the 1994 rangers conference finals to the stanley cup final
You should do Alexander Mogilny trade from the Sabers to Vancouver I believe the tree either just ended or is still going today
I'd love to know about the Wendell Clarke trades. Thanks
I'd love to see a cam neely trade tree. The bruins have players still from that trade tree
Kent Nilsson basically came to Edmonton as a rental. The story goes that since Nilsson was notoriously adverse to going into corners and any rough going despite his huge offensive skills, Mark Messier took him aside. Messier was alleged to told him "Look you Swedish puke, you are going to play the way I tell you or I'm going to (nature of threat not specified, but allegedly contained many expletives and threats of bodily harm) Nilsson returned to Sweden for the next season but made a brief (six game) appearance with the Oilers in 1995.
Are there any trade trees that separate then come back together? If so do one on that! Pls
When Iggy was searching down teams to win a cup, he didn't have the best foresight. Signing with Colorado still boggles my mind.
Kent Nilsson still has the best single season points total by a Swedish player in the NHL.
By 15 points.
About time
Do a video on blues signing stevens to an offer sheet that caps didn't match. then blues signing shanahan as a free agent and losing stevens as compensation and giving devils a key cog to their three cup winners. And then blues trade pronger for shanahan. then wings trade coffey and primeau for shanahan giving wings the final piece and a cog in three cup winners as well.
I love trade trees!!!!!!!!
No Disrespect meant but, how Kansas City drafted Paiemont (and Hickey) led the way to the Flames obtaining Lanny (Lanny and Quenneville) by way of Colorado and winning the Stanley Cup for the Flames.
Talk about the James Neal to Nashville helping the Pens win back to back Stanley Cups
Finally the video we've wanted
Steve should 100% do the Rask for Raycroft trade tree 🤣
Do a dangle video tree of horrible tdl trades of gm's going overboard acquiring every old dude they could find only to flame out in playoffs after that. Like holland's bone head '99 tdl moves to bring in chelios, as well as old broken down wendell clark, ulfie samuelsson, and bill ranford. Moves that made wings look old and tired and killed any chance wings had to three peat. Funny part of those moves is that chelios at 37 was supposed to be finished. He played with wings till '08 winning two more cups with them. Kinda similar to the pens '13 tdl shero moves to bring in every old guy they could find. Like the above mentioned Iginla whose best days were behind him, as well as b morrow, j. jokinen, and douglas murray. Moves that made the pens slow as s#it and iginla did not fit on pens as well. Too slow for their up tempo game.