What If Daemon Kept His Crown? (House Of The Dragon)

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  • čas přidán 26. 04. 2024
  • Daemon Targaryen is a man who has worked endlessly for a seat at his brothers table. As a second son there isn't much place for him in Westeros, but what if decided to make his own away from it?
    #asoiaf #hotd #whatif
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  • @Charles-In-Charge
    @Charles-In-Charge Před měsícem +46

    A marriage between Laena and King Daemon could constitute a Velaryon secession from the Seven Kingdoms, at least by the time the Dance starts. With 3-4 dragons and a massive fleet, the Kingdom of the Narrow Sea could easily conquer Dragonstone, Lys, and perhaps Tarth, then turn east into the Disputed Lands to start building a New Valyria

    • @HighRatKingBenis
      @HighRatKingBenis Před měsícem +2

      Volantis, Braavos, Pentos, the Iron Throne, Dorne, and any pirate, sellsail, sellsword, and Rheanyra have a vested interest in that not happening.

    • @toonasty6939
      @toonasty6939 Před 27 dny

      @@HighRatKingBenislol right they finna neet sum faceless men

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 Před měsícem +37

    This definitely deserve a Part Two.
    With Daemon as King in the islands, founding his own kingdom, never compromising Rhaenyra to Alicent.
    The green kids would be friends with the Strong kids who are legitimate in this scenario.
    Otto May have an harder time if Alicent and her kids don’t agree with grandfather Otto, especially if Alicent had Helaena married Jace, which is very possible.
    At best Otto could’ve a cause a scandal and be sent back to Old Town in disgrace.
    Or be declared a traitor and for his treason, Otto is send to the Night Watch.

    • @Charles-In-Charge
      @Charles-In-Charge Před měsícem +10

      I also want a part two! However I disagree that Otto’s scheme would fail. Even if Rhaenyra’s kids are legitimate, there’s still a legal argument that Viserys’ eldest son must succeed him. The Green Council’s coup could still happen if Rhaenyra was on Dragonstone and Harwin at Harrenhal (or with his wife). Then Rhaenyra only has two adult dragons against the Greens’ four. Meanwhile, team Blue has four adult dragons as well, and Daemon might decide to make himself king

    • @matheusdemello2323
      @matheusdemello2323 Před měsícem +5

      @@Charles-In-Charge
      Your forgetting *why* it would fail.
      Rhaenyra was at Dragonstone by distancing herself from Alicent and the Green kids after Aemond got his eye cut out, and their friendship deteriorating beyond repair.
      In this scenario, Rhaenyra & Alicent’s friendship would still remain intact, the kids between Strong & Green would have a closer bond with each other, so Aegon, his mother Alicent, and his siblings, would opposed Otto’s attempts at usurping Rhaenyra’s crown in a coup.
      So no, Otto would have a more difficult time if Alicent & the children had refused or fight against Otto’s schemes if Alicent & Aegon-II resisted Otto’s attempts.

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 Před měsícem +20

    What if Viserys only have daughters with Alicent?
    What if Jace & Helaena married?
    What if Viserys had Aegon II married Rhaenyra *After* Laenor’s death?
    What if Rhaenyra was like Jaehaerys The Conciliator?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenys Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Viserys-I made Daemon Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Aegon-III lived longer and made his Daughter Daena hair after the death of his sons?

  • @thescotsman2071
    @thescotsman2071 Před měsícem +3

    Interesting scenario man, I know it's not something you normally do but I'd be interested to see you go more into detail about the building up and alliances of the new step stones kingdom. Not to mention who Daemon would support if a dance was to happen, if at all.

  • @KaiHung-wv3ul
    @KaiHung-wv3ul Před měsícem +6

    I foresee an even more destructive Dance of the Dragons in the future, with the Strong-Targaryens, Hightower-Targaryens, and Velaryon-Tararyens based off of Dragonstone, Oldtown, and Driftmark. Even a generation or two down the line, there could easily be 30-40 dragons in the Dance, rather than just the dozen or so we got in our timeline.

  • @kennyhamilton9556
    @kennyhamilton9556 Před měsícem +3

    This is a very fun idea. I like the idea of Daemon keeping the Step-Stones but, what if he became the warden of the Step-Stones as the Eighth kingdom of the crown?

  • @IOSALive
    @IOSALive Před měsícem +6

    TheEmpyreanSpeaks, Subscribed because your content is fantastic!

  • @blackisbeautiful9110
    @blackisbeautiful9110 Před měsícem +3

    I'm interested in this alternate timeline. Hopefully you can make a second video on this.

  • @carastone3473
    @carastone3473 Před měsícem +6

    Laena wouldn’t marry daemon if Rhea was still alive.

  • @deankirkby8047
    @deankirkby8047 Před měsícem +5

    I think if daemon went to hold his own kingdom house valaryon would be absent in Westeros and marry Laena to Daemon Targaryen would likely have power over Tyrosh Myr and Lys as a Valerian Dragon rider.
    I think this timeline would be the most likely Rhaenyra would be forced to marry Aegon, unifying the throne. Or she might be forced to marry a high lord as there are no rumours

  • @elinakangas571
    @elinakangas571 Před měsícem +4

    Unlikely scenario: What if King Viserys did not marry Alicent Hightower or Lena Velaryon but somebody else entirely? I don't know who there are women in Westeros.

  • @pokeflare2111
    @pokeflare2111 Před měsícem +4

    Hey can you do a what if where mysaria is actually pregnant

  • @martinspacil5100
    @martinspacil5100 Před měsícem +2

    What if Aemon accepted throne insted Aegon V. and rule westeros over 50 years

  • @yellogalchun
    @yellogalchun Před měsícem +5

    Viserys would definitely still force Rhaenyra to marry Laenor no matter what.

  • @patrickyoung2479
    @patrickyoung2479 Před měsícem +5

    What if Viserys made Daemon his heir?

    • @godemperorofmankind3.091
      @godemperorofmankind3.091 Před měsícem +1

      He did. If you mean Damon never says "heir for a day" then Damon would only be presumptive heir until Aegon's birth.

  • @hughesrheinscheld5650
    @hughesrheinscheld5650 Před měsícem +2

    What if Visenya died instead of Rhaenys in 10 AC

  • @kingddg218
    @kingddg218 Před měsícem +1

    Daemon the rouge king

  • @Grieldric
    @Grieldric Před měsícem +1

    Just wondering, did Laena have Vhagar by the time of Rhaenyra and Laenor’s wedding?

  • @The-Allfather-Odin
    @The-Allfather-Odin Před měsícem

    Can you do an analysis video on Lyonel Strong

  • @phil.moloney2980
    @phil.moloney2980 Před měsícem +4

    King Daemon targaryen frist of his name a what if idea that deserves a series like the what if with Maegor the bronze dragon.
    What if lord commander Westerling killed cole and the greens in the small council chamber, because let not forget he was Rhaenyra bodyguard for most of her young life and in my opinion a second father figue to her, and he also knows that Viserys didn't just name but whated Rhaenyra to take the throne after him, and given what he has seen and heard in the chamber decides to end the threat before it starts I can picture him saying this after he take off he white cloak.
    Westerling "You all seem to forget I was Rhaenyra shield for a long time and I've never stopped being, im sorry Alicent ill make sure it will be quick"
    Before he draws his sword.

  • @sardonically-inclined7645
    @sardonically-inclined7645 Před měsícem +1

    What if Viserys let Rhaenyra take Harwin Strong as a second husband in the Valyrian way and legitimized his sons (Only to be revealed upon his death).?

  • @CorvoThan
    @CorvoThan Před 22 dny

    i know thats is besides your point but.... "all he has is a dragon and a sword". Well most in westeros are not even certain that they will survive the next winter. so there is that
    also even without daemon ser christos would still be a kingsguard. so no marriage

  • @0predaking0
    @0predaking0 Před měsícem

    In short all the troubles during the Dance of Dragons where by Daemon. . . . . . . . Seems Legit

  • @ryanandutan2814
    @ryanandutan2814 Před měsícem

    *plays Kingdom by Downstait

  • @elinakangas571
    @elinakangas571 Před měsícem

    Unlikely scenario: What if Targeryens disappeared by not having babies?
    What if...
    King Viserys did not remarry after the death of Queen Aemma.
    Prince Daemon had a decent marriage with Rhea Royce. According to book readers, Rhea Royce is unable to have children.
    Rhaenyra still marries Leonor Velaryon who is unable to father children. This time Rhaenyra does not have any children during her first marriage.
    Love for algorithms. ❤

  • @elinakangas571
    @elinakangas571 Před měsícem

    What if Princess Rhenys got her will and Leonor Velaryon did not marry Rhaenyra? I could see this go 3 ways
    Rhaenyra marries Prince Daemon.
    Rhaenyra could still develop an affair with Harwin Strong and they would marry.
    It is still not too late to engage Rhaenyra to half-brother Aegon.
    All of these scenarios this channel has already covered so love for algorithms. ❤

  • @rubenfigueiredo4229
    @rubenfigueiredo4229 Před měsícem

    make a what if Aegon V didn't die in The Tragedy of summerhall, and had managed to hatch dragon eggs, let's say 3 dragon eggs to make it interesting, how would that change history from that point o,n with no one dying in summerhall and dragons returning to the world?

  • @kylebooker1987
    @kylebooker1987 Před měsícem

    What if stannis and daenerys married and took the iron throne?

  • @kaitlinspekxx2841
    @kaitlinspekxx2841 Před měsícem

    What if viserys made daemon hand of the king??

  • @lautaromahealani8279
    @lautaromahealani8279 Před měsícem

    /Books spoilers alerts
    * What if Jace Velaryon lived?
    * What if Ned Stark accepted the Iron Throne, instead of Robert?

  • @ratgirl34
    @ratgirl34 Před měsícem

    For the algorithm.

  • @Maegorthecrueltargaryen
    @Maegorthecrueltargaryen Před měsícem

    What if Rhaenyra had a son with Harwin before Jaecerys that had the looks of Rhaegar the strength of Maelys the mounsterous the sword skills of Daemon Blackfyre and the wisdom of Jaehaerys