Horse Owner Confuses Horse During Training Session
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2023
- Today I am going over a video by Tara, working with her young horse Bella. I will be giving my point of view on the methods used, as well as giving the horse in this video a voice. Don't blindly follow what someone says, even if they are a "professional" or "have YEARS of experience". Use your own critical thinking skills and question the tools, the method, and the trainers you see, listen to, and work with.
I am using all footage under the Fair Use Act for criticism and educational purposes, and do not wish for anyone to send hateful messages to the original poster. I hope to spread awareness about this type of unnecessary and dangerous practice that is so prevalent in the training world and give animals a better life. Let me know what you think of it, and what you would like to see next time! Until then, try to Stay Pawsitive :3
#horsetraining #positivereinforcement
That poor horse is so dang confused. She's so patient and willing. She's trying SO HARD to understand what Tara wants. But even I can't tell what Tara wants. She pulls a hand one way, but is looking and leaning in the opposite direction, all while kicking and pulling on both reins. Saying "whoa" and "go" at the same time. Poor horse. She's certainly not fresh. She's frustrated and unhappy. $100,000 says I could have hopped on that sweet filly with one rein on a rope halter and had a quiet walk and jog around the arena without a single hiccup. And I'm nothing special. I am not some great rider. But this horse is EASY. You wanna see "fresh", Tara? Come see some real challenging horses I've worked with. This gentle filly isn't fresh.
Tara’s videos are absolutely horrifying. Watching her on Farouk makes me so sad for him. She says whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa like a million times a minute. It’s very clear her horses do not respect her. Poor Farouk looks like he’s lost all the joy from his eyes. Like he’s a shell of his former self. I feel so bad for all her horses. She’s absolute awful. It’s very apparent she’s too heavy for her horses and she needs to teach her horses on the ground for a long time. She rushes all her “training”.
This filly is going the same way.
I feel sorry for her.
She will rear up. This is SO typical "fear hanging" on the rein's from Tara. She is torturing that horse with the pressure in her mouth. CRAZY. An accudent waiting to happen and than the horse will pay.
Totally agree with you. Ive watched, many videos, of bella, being ridden, bella is suffering, she tries so hard, but never gets any release. Shes always, nearly, bucking and rearing and running off, shes trying to get release. Thanks for sharing. Rhona 😊
@@user-lm1lo2hc8g Oh thank you so much!! 😀
With Tara, it’s always something else that is to blame, the grass, the weather, the wind. Anything but herself.
😂 that's all too common with know-it-alls in the animal world!
Heck she’d blame it in wrong position bc of the horse 😀🙄
So true. But she can’t figure out she’s the one to blame. You can tell how uncomfortable the horse is when she rides her/him, but when the horse is on the lunge she is absolutely beautiful.😂
The first thing you learn is IT IS NEVER THE HORSES FAULT!!!
YES, thank you!! They are riding 2 year old's full work every day and than they wonder why so many horses have Kissing Spins. When did this knowledge go away?? I mean: riding, putting weight on a horses back- 4 or 5 year's, there is enough groundwork we can do without riding and this 'good girl's and talking means NOTHING to the horse!!!
What I did with my young one was long reining we walked around the village once then went home where I brushed and made a fuss and fed her and I did that for a month then turned her away till the following year I still brushed her and spent time with her but didn't teach her anything else I just took my time and she is one mighty pony both ridden and driven .
That's great to hear! I'm glad you two have such a good relationship! 🐴
😍👍
The title “a proper little madam”says all you need to know about Tara
What really drives me mad with this person apart from her lack of riding skills, and failure to identify or accept her faults is the way she asks for donations be it for a rug or whatever or donate to the carrot fund! Her and her husband are hardly destitute judging by the property and land but still she asks for donations! Not on really in my opinion.
Love this channel by the way ❤
Thank you, I appreciate the support!!
I've always thought it was really cheeky of her to ask for donations. They're *her* horses and she's not a rescue centre, why should she need donations at all?
That was my thoughts exactly pay a donation for carrots 🥕 what a cheek!
@@janettegardner7144 Also need to take into account how much does she make from CZcams that’s why I don’t agree with donations for ‘carrots’!
I agree i think she's actually nervous of Bella bucking her off or bolting,& she is a little heavy,i've thought this with poor old Farouk her Arabian when she's riding him on 32k endurance rides,he passed the vetting but she'd gone wrong on her route & added extra onto an already long ride,she was knackered as well towards the end
I have watched some of Tara's videos and I always felt that she is much too heavy for both Bella and Farouk (her arabian). I think Tara is afraid of losing control and of losing face, and that this causes her to to tighten the reins and do so many wrongs.
20 percent is an absolute max weight for a MATURE horse to carry with a well fitting saddle. A 4yo should carry nowhere near this amount. The rider is heavy, her backside is spilling over the rear of the saddle causing the suspension system to "bottom out" at every stride. The saddle system(bua) is dependent on a lighter rider sitting centrally in the seat. In this case there will be enormous overload to trapezius and the loins with most likely bridging in the centre. Horse needs honest assessment by a vet and independent saddle fitter
Did i miss it? Does she have a professional saddle fitter?
@@bonnieplattner3094 apparently not..this saddle was "fitted" to Apollo on a previous vid by the Bua rep. There appears to have been no adjustment to the horse .the only adjustment appears to be adjustment of springiness ( to rider preference) to the rear of the saddle. Mechanically the design is flawed and clearly inadvisable for heavy and large seated riders.
A horse (or any animal, actually) is a mirror reflection of it's trainer. 99% of problems are the human. Tara has clearly never learned to ride properly and with soft hands! It's really sad to say an ignorant horse owner and an honest, sweet horse in such unharmony. Poor Bella would go such a long way with a better human!
I totally agree with you, this horse is lovely, shes ruining it, so sad
Yes, a nice horse being ruined right before our eyes. And Tara gets very huffy if you say anything other than praise for the way she rides. So common to see people like this in the horse world. They won't listen to a word of helpful criticism because they know it all!
I also think that Bella bit is a couple of holes to tight /high in Bella mouth. Last year or about 6 months ago the vet told Tara to stop riding in the area/manage and to just walk Bella in hand and only walk in straight lines as Bella was stiff and slightly lame/off from doing to much circling/lunging and breaking her when she was before Bella was 3.
Tara rushes the commands for Bella,she is only 4 years old,Bella can't walk on a straight line properly,Tara gets on her and she goes straight into trot and canter,Bella look uncomfortable all the time she is ridden,Tara delets the ""bad comments"" because she doesn't accept that she HAS TO CHANGE HER MIND.PERIOD
I know i mentioned way back about her weight,not being disrespectful,but race horses have a handicap to give them advantage in races but her horses have a permanent one?! I know she's 60 & seems active obviously mostly through riding,but she must weigh a ton with all her riding clothes on?! she'd be better off with a draught type
I'm a fan of draft horses myself and would only choose to ride one when available because I know I am a very heavy person 🐴😉
@@michellesanderson4028 The Fresian she has is the only one she should be riding
No wonder that Bella can't walk on a straight line if the rider always pulls her head to one side or the other. Poor horse 😔
Great video, this woman infuriates me,poor little Bella I feel so sorry for her. This woman I clueless 😡
My criticism is that none of her horses work over their back! They are all three hollow! She seems to be really heavy handed. Also the Arab Farouk is too light in weight and she’s too heavy for him!
Thank you so much for making these videos about Tara. I used to like some of her videos but as time went on, I started noticing more and more videos that involve either dangerous situations, horrific training, or all of the above including when I looked at her archive (the way Tara backed Farouk was absolutely awful). Bella is such an adorable horse and while I am not a horse owner, I could tell right away that Tara's backing of Bella is terrible and it is made worse by a horse owner who refuses to listen to criticism even from her own subscribers. Watching Shae's (Free Spirit Equestian) backing with Mushu, Shelby Dennis' backing of her horses especially Banksy, and Graeme's (Stable Horse Training) groundwork with Annie while looking at Tara's backing of Bella feels like night and day in the worst ways because the former three know how to train their horses with respect and care while with Tara we are seeing an adorable sweet horse get ruined before our very eyes. I feel bad for this horse.
Everything you said!!!🥰
Agreed!!!
@kristinm784 your clearly not very experienced and a horse's back and muscles are not strong enough to begin training at 2 years old !!
@kristinm784 a horse should not have a bit in or long lined or had a saddle on it until 3 years old. They are not physically or mentally capable or ready!! Seeing as I'm 49 and I breed, back and break and take on problem horses for a living... probably thousands ;)
@@kristinm784 Instead of arguing with you, what I am going to do is report your comments and block you right now. Thank you and have a good day.
I can't watch any of Tara's "training" sessions with Bella. Too painful. I wish she'd just slack off and do more ground work. Instead, she's taking four year old Bella on rides on roads and pathways where Bella doesn't understand what's going on.
When will someone get through to Tara and tell her she is much too heavy for Bella??( Bella is 15.1H)
She is also much too large for her Arabian. She stated that Farouk is 16H.
Am I crazy, or is he barely taller than Bella?
Ktay, you have really opened my eyes and I thank you, for that.
Does Tara’s, good girl, clever girl comments and her her husband’s, Bellla, from behind the scenes drive you as crazy as it makes me?
Ugh!!
Thank you I'm glad you enjoy the content ! And yes you are not alone by any means, many of us find it very aggravating 🤣
Are you going to critique more Tara videos?
Oh please do!
I wish I had your critiques when I was riding, 30 years ago!
❤️🙏
I'm glad you like it, I certainly will be doing more of Tara, I have one ready to edit and I'll be uploading that in the next few days 😁
Yay!
I can’t wait to see what you say!
That woman has the tightest rein hold on Bella.
It’s obvious she holds herself in the saddle by the reins🤬
That poor little horse!
I wish you had Bella, she would be a different horse! 🙏
I would love to play with Bella, she reminds me of a buckskin, named Feather I have the pleasure to work with here in Washington.🐴
How does this woman get so many positive messages on her channel????? They have got to be oblivious of the obvious what is happening and have NO knowledge of horsemanship and understanding how to treat a horse with respect! It is a privilege for any horse to accept them on their back, But to watch anyone abuse the horses nature for their own selfish desires I find utterly infuriating 😡
I think a lot of her fans are kids.
Tara deletes all critical comments.
This lady( tara) talks WAY to much as well as give to many conflicting ques for the horse at that young age to understand. Rein’s ALWAYS tight etc. that horse should be learning to stretch out while keeping her balance and gradually learning to accept contact AFTER all the basics. Tara basically jumps them to 10th grade while skipping kindergarten 😢
Tara is actually teaching her to leg yield/side pass. WAY to advanced for a horse that age. Teach her basic ques. Walk/stop/trot/stop etc guiding her through turns with an open rein. This horse just screams tension ALL the time
Watching Tara ride Bella vs watching Free Spirit Equestrian's first ride on Mushu (posted yesterday) is night and day. Shea is *so* kind and gentle with Mushu - she rides him with a loose rein and plans on riding him bitless in the coming weeks. Mushu seemed pretty content throughout the ride, or about as content as a horse being ridden for the ridden time can be. Comparing that with Tara's first ride on Bella - tight reins literally from the minute she sat on Bella's back and an overall unhappy horse 🙄
I like that Shea's starting off in a bit before trying bitless - it takes the pressure off the horse's nose whilst they're still learning their rein cues. I wish more people tried their horses in both bits and bitless - some horses do better with a bit, some do better bitless but many people just don't give their horses a choice
I agree. I like Shea's training methods. She takes such good care of her horses, and respects them. Unlike Shea, Tara doesn't respect her horses, only thinks of what she wants from them and how to make them do it. She has two other horses, a gorgeous Friesen, and a very thin, overworked, underfed Arabian.
Someone did mention about the reins being too tight but she tried to explain her way out of that one . I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been cringing , I'm a new horse owner compared with her years of "experience" so what does that say if I feel uncomfortable watching .
I love how Shay is with all her horses 😍
Exactly. Shae is amazing, there’s no comparison. She could have Bella properly schooled in no time.
This woman really need to realise she is the problem.. i keep seeing so many mistakes that she makes with her horses...
As do many of us unfortunately.
Tara has fanatic sub's, many of them are no horse people!! You are not the only one critizising her.
I find your criticism very good to learn and I am working with horses since 40 year's- but as we see that ,ean's NOTHING. I am still learning. And I care what you think, Hrts from Austria
Omg thank you for the kind words and support! I agree, and I'm still learning myself, every day from every animal I work with! 🥰
Its beyond atrocious. The women has no balance, body control, tone or coordination. Leaning forward, lurching backwards. The horse was taken out of work and a vet called from muscle strain from constant lunging on small circles. She backed her up the entire length of the track to take her back to the stables after one of her training sessions. I think this lady is on borrowed time for an injury. I wish her well.
I just posted a comment on Tara’s latest video of her taking Bella through a flooded street and I just said, I was taught that it is bad to trot a horse on pavement because it can damage their joints and ligaments. Is this just s European thing?
Oh boy, let’s see if my question gets deleted!
It’s a fair question because that’s what was grounded into my brain, when I first started riding as a 6 tear old.
Love you K9Tay!
Thank you, so glad to hear you enjoy the channel! You are so appreciated! ❤️ and I'm with you! I wouldn't want to be ridden and jogging on hard pavement with it without metal shoes on! Poor Bella!!
I am so glad that you have taken on a voice for these animals.
It’s beyond me that anyone can defend these people and their ways. (Torturous ways).
Was that the video where Tara made poor Bella walk through that stream crossing repeatedly? That really got to me. I also don't like seeing Tara repeatedly trotting her poor horses on pavement!
I think this was a different video, but yeah, I have never trotted my horses on pavement.
She is constantly trotting Bella so fast up and down the pavement.
That poor horse.
I said something on one of Tara’s recent videos about being taught that trotting is very harmful to a horses legs and joints. I bet she deleted my comment.
She is so clueless.
@@LaurieLambChops-yn6zy Tara always deletes comments that she doesn't like, even if they are only meant as advice. No getting through to her at all.
When I first saw her video I was horrified. She really doesn't get the correlation of pressure and release, plus riding with such a tight rein is not helping Bella at all. The constant heavy-handed pulling on the bit, this side to that side is awful to watch. I have in the past gently suggested to start her sessions walking her on a loose rein allowing her to stretch fully through the back and repeat at the end of her lesson and also to ride her with softer hands and less constant tension on the rein which confuses Bella. She is a beautiful Andalusian and would hate for her to be spoiled. Unfortunately Tara does not take kindly to constructive critisism, even when it is meant well. Another great video by the way 😃
Thank you, I appreciate that! So glad you liked the video 🐴🥰
@@K9Tay Your very welcome. I only found you a couple of days ago so will now catch up on other videos.
I would love to see Jesse Drent with this horse. He is such an amazing gentle horse trainer and treats every horse individually. Currently, he has an ex-abused Andalusian bullfighting horse and the work he has done is amazing in gaining his trust.
Totally agree, I love Jesse and have followed him since the beginning. He’s done amazing work with all his horse and like you would love to see him with Bella. The difference he would make…
Unfortunately she's being very irresponsible or deluded posting this content young or nieve blinded fans people will try this hopefully without consequences for them or there horse, there's so many videos with the warning signs holding pressure constantly holding herself up on her reins clearing relying on them for balance starting her to young looks like she still growing and shes destroyed her early years with bad handling etc the mare herself is showing and displaying all the signs she would need to know from baby till now ignored everything and wondering why shes like this, shes to big for her and again obviously has no clue in all video's shes blaming surroundings on the mares behaviour absolutely ridiculous so many people have reacted surly it would make you reevaluate the situation congratulations lady you have officially destroyed your mare if you continue there will be injuries
Stiff back ,hands high=bounce on horses spine uncomfortable horse. She overflows the saddle and is just too big
All correct, and those feet with her toes facing outwards rather than forward and up drive me mad 🤣
The last session I saw with Bella and Tara, Tara took a whip from the fence. I absolutely cringed when I saw her do that. I didn't see her use it though.
I hope for Bella's sake she didn't end up using it 🤞
There’s a brand new Tara and Bella video that came out today.
Oh you have to see it!
It’s just painful!
It’s called, Has Bella gotten out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Thank you, for all your advice!
Ohh that sounds interesting, I'll be sure to check it out! Thank you!!
I saw that too. It was awful. She has no idea what she’s doing.
Thank you for doing that Tara video.
I know you weren’t able to finish it. It’s hard to watch her.
She’s got a couple new videos of her getting Bella fitted for a new saddle and it still looks too small and poor Bella is so uncomfortable.
I don’t know why I still watch these videos of hers, I guess I am a masochist. 🤷🏼♀️
Good morning Tay, please check out the new saddle for Bella. The "saddle fitter" (I use the term loosely) needs to go back to saddle fitting school, the saddle may well be a correct fit for Bella, but its way to small for Tara. This may sound harsh, but this lady needs to either loose some weight, or stick to riding her friesian horse. The riders butt size is relative when fitting a saddle.
Thank you for the suggestion! I'll be sure to check it out! 😁🐴
The saddle IS too small for tara but so is horse bella too small for tara
@@user-lq5dc2kp3f You are absolutely correct, as is Farouk also too small for her, the lady should stick to riding the fresian she has and leave riding the finer framed horses to others, it makes me livid, but shes old school, will never adapt or change, and to be honest, the saddle fitter who sold her that saddle has no scruples either,thanks for your reply :)
I live locally, bhs qualified, use totally natural methods, offered to help. Horse isnt halter broken. I would train not make her stand, and all other horses. So sad ive offered, im no spring chicken, and the talking bella stop wait bella ect,,,,,, i work as Warwick schiller. She said she must be tought from pressure, NOT MY WORDS, ITS RELEASE OF PRESSURE. I COULD DO SO MUCH FOR HER AND ALL HORSES. You say it all. Xx
Bella is just a few months shy or 4 years old. I wish she would ride her with a looser rein and not try and make her do drissage moves side stepping. If she’s bucking and refusing to move something is wrong with the horse or rider. Bella is just shy of 15.2 hands high.
She doesn’t try to make her do dressage movements, the horse is resisting/evading and Tara just puts a name to it. When the horse runs sideways to evade going straight Tara says its offering leg yield or shoulder in.
You know what I'd do with Bella. Take her back to the very basics as if she wasn't started under saddle yet. Do a lot of groundwork such as ground driving, in-hand dressage work, liberty horsemanship, and just some regular playing around so she can build up trust with humans. Teach her that it's okay to be a horse and allow her to say no to things. Then when she's older I'd start her with no bit, heck, maybe no bridle (bridleless is fun XD), this little horse needs a break from the mouth and face pressure. I think she'd do well with positive reinforcement too.
I'd honestly recommend Tara to be lunged on a well educated horse without reins so she can actually get a proper feel of the horse, learn how to balance properly. I honestly think all horse people should do that if they can. I always see many equestrians use the reins way too much and the poor horses getting their mouths pulled on and the bit hitting their teeth or hitting the roof of their mouths.
Excellent point!!😃
Totally agree with you, thanks for the comment, Rhona from Australia 🇦🇺 🐴🐴♥️😊🐴👍👍👍👍👍
Tara has absolut no body language, the horse is longing her.
Are you going to do another Tara video, in the near future?
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you giving a voice to animals!
Aww thank you for the support! Yes I absolutely plan to catch up on a few of her recent videos! 🐴
You are the best and thank you!!!
Aww too sweet, happy to do it!!
I feel there is a danger to Taras safety. Particularly as she is after all 60 and seems tense. In article on dangerous breeds, it points out the ancient Andalusian was bred for strength and bravery for war. A horse that is bred to stand up to an angry bull , has potential for dangerous aggression to humans without the proper Training.
She should not own horses. She puts them at great risk and despises anyone who corrects her methods. I’ve asked her to never trailer a horse in a bridle, castrate at a vet not at home due to the dangers, many other things...she’s a know-it-all😞
I couldn't believe she put all 3 horses in that small box 🙈
She did what? Travelled all 3 in a3.5 t?? Illegal weight wise!
Glad you have put up this video. Hell I am super confused so no idea how confused Bella obviously is. It's the bleeding hands all over the place and unbalanced rider. Her Endurance Arab is far too light and ridden far too hard. There is no question she loves her horses but they should definitely have been sent away for breaking and basic starting skills.
I'm no expert however I am so worried that Tara will be seriously hurt on Farouk. He's clearly too much horse for her. Seeing her training session with Bella is that neither one of them is having a good time. It's not a good start for Bella.
She does, always talk a lot, to her horse, ive seen this horse, flip over backwards, when lady was leading her, so sad for this baby horse
I hope its not helping any one. Taras riding unfortunatly, does not take bella (or farouke for that matter) in mind and is insensitive to them at all. Look where bellas head is and the terrible pecking trot which is not a natural stretching stride. And all bellas moves, are evasive action to get tara to get off her back. Apollos nature makes him bend/do what tara wants, bella and faroukes spirit wll just be broken
I think Bella is only 3 and I've often wondered if Tara was to heavy on her. The very first time she got on Bella it took her a while to notice Bella wasn't right and it turned out Bella was lame.
Bella is 4, Farouk is 9 and Apollo is 11.
Hi ive seen a few videos, with this lady and her horses, she has no idea, she needs help, sorry too say, she doesn't, understand, pressure and release,
Having watched many of her videos from the beginning, the worst decision she ever made was purchasing this young horse in the first place. The videos, from the on start, have been catastrophic...no fault of the filly. Tara needs a schoolmaster type to teach her how to communicate properly to her mount. Wish she would sell her to an experienced party. This combination is a recipe for diaster.
This is so hard to watch. I’ve seen a number of her videos. This woman really needs to examine what she does with her horses. Each one is so different and lovely, but she really lacks, common sense, and capability in her riding. Wish she would take some riding lessons and really learn how to ride with soft hands and light aids. She refuses to listen to anyone who makes any suggestions. She is definitely on an ego trip. Her horses need rescuing.
Thank you for your commentary. I watched this video awhile back and was aghast. I wish she had a trainer.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I appreciate your feedback 😊
She needs to hire a professional for the horse, and take lessons herself. She is awful. Teaching sidepassing before you can even get the horse to do basic walk, trot and communication that works.
I'm not a horse person but I have felt uneasy watching a few of the videos made by Tara. I've never heard the word "No" used so many times in a training situation. I'm glad you have made the comments you have and that Tara sees them and adjusts her training schedules and methods.
I'm another one of the people who has watched her videos for years, but watching her start Bella is increasingly like watching a train derail in slow motion. I manage a few minutes and then get so uncomfortable I often "fast-forward" through the rest. This pairing is an accident waiting to happen.
I believe she is fundamentally in over her head and either doesn't realize it yet, or feels she cannot admit to it and deal with the consequences in the face of her big audience and the community she has built - nearly 60k subscribers, plus who knows how many paying channel members. What certainly also doesn't help is the large number of pure uninformed or equally limited-in-skill claquers in her comment sections that echo and reinforce her various assessments that blame any and all issues on the horse: "ooh, moody mare just like the one I once had!", "never been around horses but I have three kids so I know: this headstrong teenager just needs to learn that mom's in charge!" "thank you for explaining what's going on here, I have no doubt the two of you will come together in no time under your expert hands."...
It's been many years since I quit horseback riding (I miss interacting with horses even more than the riding, which is likely the reason why I am bumming around the equine side of youtube as much as the parts of it that feature my various still "active" interest) and I've never ridden horses to the level that I was breaking in green horses myself, but even to to my "out of training" eye, there are fundamental issues plain to see that don't bode well:
She is visibly uncomfortable, at times borderline scared when on Bella (compare that to how she looks when on her Frisian or even the at times skittish Arab) and it shows in ways that are utterly detrimental to teaining a young horse under saddle:
- she has virtually no independent seat, so she is balancing with and on the reins in any situation where she feels she is losing control, so quite often. Her legs are all over the place, she seems to be at times almost unconscious to her weight shifting/distribution and is then confused/alarmed when Bella reacts to her weight aids over what aids she thinks she's (exclusively) giving with the reins.
-both of the saddles she has tried on that horse are too small for her - she's basically sitting on the cantle, which (if not causing pain already, as we have no idea how well the saddles fit in the first place) I'd bet dollars to donuts will lead to Kissing Spines and all the related problems well before the horse is 10.
- the horse is getting oversaturated with - most of the time conflicting - commands: legs are telling her one thing, reins another, weight yet another thing. On top of that you have the constant "base line" of verbal cues, which have actually been problematic long before the horse was started under saddle, because they are more often than not so badly-timed/imprecise that they might as well be mindless chatter. The cherry on top is when her husband joins in from the sidelines by randomly yelling the mare's name or vocalizing the same imprecise chatter-commands, because the horse is already so obviously not listening to a thing his wife wants from her that he feels compelled to add his voice in reinforcement.
It's a sad situation, because I feel she genuinely cares for all of her animals and does not want to deliberately cause them any harm or lasting discomfort, but she is just not half the proficient rider she believes herself (or maybe even once used) to be.
Everyone involved would doubtlessly profit if she gave Bella into professional hands for a couple of months to get her started, an then take a couple of lessons together with Bella once she takes back over. Judging from the standard of living on display, I doubt money would be an issue. If there is any substance to the rumors regarding the botched sale of her Arab though, fear of the "public reaction" to such a move could possibly be a deterrance.
I think you have absolutely described the situation correctly!
Interestingly, I went back and looked at her videos of backing the Arab. She was much more cautious and less demanding than she is with Bella.
What rumour abut the Arab? Do tell...
@@kathygreen288 let me preface this by telling you that I've come across this in the comment section of another reaction video of another horse trainer who critically discussed her handling of Bella. I'm not a subscriber to that trainer's channel channel, but I wager I got this specific video recommended by youtube since I am subscribed to Tara and regularly watch her videos. I think that was the case for quite a few people in that particular comment section as well.
In any case: someone mentioned how "a couple of months ago, before she put him aside" (which must have been summer/fall last year, certainly before he was put out to pasture for the winter) Farouk was, for a period of time, up for sale locally. Other people chimed in that he apparently even showed up online (I think they specifically said on Ehorses) under his breeding name. People aparently took notice because Tara and her horses are known to anyone who's ever been on youtube in the last couple of years who has even a passing interest in horses. One commenter, who likely was from around where Tara lives judging from the videos they themselves had under their youtube profile, then mentioned they knew he was as good as sold until he failed the pre-purchase vet check. When asked about the attempted sale and failed vet check by people who knew her youtube channel, she apparently went to great lengths to pull/disappear any evidence that she ever attempted to sell the horse in the first place. Other commenters then said that since then, she apparently deletes any comments/blocks/shadow-bans people who ask about- or mention the attempted sale or inquire about Farouk's health.
@BismarcksOtto thanks for that. Would explain why she had little use for him at the time.
@@BismarcksOtto that's very interesting. Farouk is my favorite of her three, and I often feel sorry for him. He was stunning when she first got him, and by the time they finished that one season of endurance riding, he looked so ragged and thin. I know they can't be fat while doing endurance, but he'd lost his entire top line, no muscle to speak of. He looked like ulcers and pain could have both been in play, IMO. He has a sweet disposition and I think would be lucky to find a more knowledgeable (and smaller) rider. It's too bad he didn't pass the PPE. I wondered why she basically kicked him out and refused to even blanket him or brush him for a couple of months. I'm all for a horse having time off from work, but the other two weren't exactly doing anything either, and they got brushed and blanketed when it was cold/rainy, etc. Poor Farouk just got ignored. Huh. Makes more sense now.
@@BismarcksOtto Wow, She certainly kept that quiet about selling him, I wonder what the reason was...had she already purchased Bella at that time, I think she must have ? I would love to know what the vet check threw up. Farouk is a lovely boy, unfortunately she has become to heavy for him and he is certainly not looking his best at the moment. Perfect for me though at size 8/10 and 8 stone 🤣 I do wonder why she would need 3 horses, I also wonder what discipline she is planning for Bella. I only have the 1 Thoroughbred and that keeps me busy, and I'm retired. Your comments about her blocking are so true, she has deleted 2 of my posts where I was very delicately offering constructive criticism. I have had horses for over 50 years now and certainly never claim to know it all, but I do see so many faults in her riding. Thanks for the info by the way.
I'm glad you did this video. Tara never shuts up. I don't know that much about horses but I felt bad for Bella for awhile.
Hello. So glad that you are calling out Tara. I agree with all who commented, specially the bad training of sweet Bella. Her height and weight, I feel, is too much for such a young horse. Also beautiful Farouk. A quite lean, small, Arab whom she is taking on endurance rides. I’m sure Tara is far too heavy for Farouk to carry over these distances. Only her Frisian, Apollo, is able to carry her ok. Her posts have been so upsetting to watch that I have now unsubscribed. My son had an unwanted, untrained very young brumby (Australian wild horse) he successfully worked with to produce a willing, quiet, confident, sound beautiful mare. Anyone can ride Kumar, even me! Please continue your critiques of this woman who knows everything.
That's wonderful to hear about your great success with your sweet mare! So glad you were able to give her the time she needed 🐴❤️
Bella is 4 years old
She has no damn business being on or around horses.
We can all learn alot from this video. I hope Tara and everybody else is paying attention to this. I know it's helping me. Thank You.
Tara's 'ego' and lack of humbleness, she would never agree with any of our words here.
I. Hope you're learning what not to do
There's so much you can say about Tara in this video. I'm at 29:00 she's trying to slow down the horse, yet she hasn't bothered drawing the stirrups so they're constantly banging on the horses side, not only uncomfortable but probably to Bella that's Tara's similar cue to "go". I'm guessing she kept them down to keep the reins in place but it would be better to take the bridle off (which would take 3 seconds to do) and do it in a halter imo. I was always taught to put the stirrups up to stop them from banging on the side of the horse. Mixed messages for this poor horse all throughout the video. I've only left one comment on Tara's channel I believe, I was telling her that when I go out on a hack I often have my reins fully loose as it makes my horse more relaxed and I explained why this is. Her response was just along the lines of "I'm so glad you can do that with your horse". She's supposed to be training her horse, why can't she have the motivation to get her horse as relaxed and respond to the lightest cues as possible? Not to mention she goes out with other people, runs up right behind strange horses then complain when the strange horses try to kick her horse. I'm going on a rant sorry.
That's ok, I'm mostly ranting in most of my videos, so you're always welcome to come here to vent! 😄🐴
Oh she has cantered her already. Tara likes to canter and gallop. She also rarely warms up her horses with a walk, it off to trot and mainly canter and galloping.
THIS!!!!!!!
Are you watching "Think Like A Horse"?? You should, I am his suv since 2014/15 and I learned more from him, he really explain's how horses are thinking. And he says rhe same rhings like you!!!
Lol yes I've been subbed to him for a few years now as well! I get a lot of my knowledge from him as well and I've continued learning as much as I can since either started working with horses 😄
@@K9Tay 👍👍😀😀Funny but I am so happy that Rick's way of training and riding ( bit less, ECT) goes around and around. That's why he is making videos to help the horses. Amazing work of your"s!!
Thank you! I do enjoy his stories about good old Mr. T and Buddy! I appreciate that he fights against the norm of using bits, whips, and spurs. 🐴
I love Rick!
He is hilarious!
What angers me is the fact when Tara is riding Bella and is talking to her, her husband pipes up and it’s confusing for the horse. She doesn’t know who to listen to.
Thank you for educating people on how much weight a horse should carry.
Absolutely! I'm a big supporter of comfort for the animal, especially if they have no choice in the matter. I'm always afraid to get on friends horses, even for a short bit unless I know I am not going to be too heavy for them 🐴
@K9Tay Absolutely my Arab was 15hhbut wasn't a good weight carrier. Luckily back then I was half what I am now!! But he had back issues and we had to be careful with saddles reflocking his saddles and weight etc. He had amazing stamina but was not a weight carrier....And he got very sore if he was overloaded. I think Farouck already looks a bit sway backed and he's only young still...He has no crest at all in fact sometimes his long weak neck doesn't look strong enough to hold his head. He was beautifull when she hot him as a 3 year old stallion.. he just looks broken now.
That is so sad, that poor little guy. It's a shame what humans can do to such beautiful and willing creatures. 😢
@@pandoramoore3794, I agree. I have been thinking he looks swaybacked. He was beautiful when she first got him. I could just cry for him. She of course blames his shying on his trainer when he was shown at halter, the trainer using plastic bags on the whip to make him look animated. Well, guess what Tara? I worked as a groom at a saddlebred stable and this is also done there and guess what? The horses get desensitized to it. So don’t blame his previous trainer, look in the mirror!
@@2snowgirl520 Absolutley to me he just looks depressed and broken most of the time!!
Tara is doing endurance competitions with her Arabian. Today the post made me cry. I have read that endurance riders mainly ride at the trot and walk, with an occasional canter. Tara cantered and galloped that poor horse practically the entire course. At the end her horse looked exhausted and dehydrated. She didn’t show the last vet check. I felt so bad for the horse.
That's so sad! Poor guy, I hope she doesn't run him to death, just disgusting. 😤
agree and he has no muscle tone at all, his hips always jutt out, the heat we've just had here was to much for riding to that degree i feel. I feel also she's far to heavy for Farock. He was just turned out all winter with no rug or sugar beat (being roughed out apparently) the other 2 were rugged despite being heavier set and hardier. He looked so poor yet he is worked the hardest!!
I felt exactly the same, canter, canter, canter. Did you see how much water he drank at the end !!!!!
@@pandoramoore3794, I agree that she is too heavy for him. So many endurance riders are slim. She seems to think she is an instant expert on endurance riding.
@@pandoramoore3794, I was so disgusted by how she literally neglected him this past winter.
Just starting watching all your vlogs about this woman!!! I say no more as you already know how I feel!!!
If u loosen ur rein a little she would figure out what u want. She’s confused cause ur pulling on her mouth but asking her to move foreward. Ur confusing her. Poor Bella
I completely agree with everything you state. Sounds like you have been watching Rick Gore (I have been following him for years) The similarities are a tribute to him
I've been watching Rick for a few years myself! Love his little critters :D
This horse paddles like mad, probably from too heavy of rider. on this ride going down a slight hill she loses her back legs at 4:21 on the july 4th video here, but the woman refuses to get off! czcams.com/video/Qvo-U_DBrkg/video.html
Worst case scenario finally happened!! Sickens me. I’m not watching her anymore!!
That looks very strange to me but apparently she slipped so Tara and her adoring followers say. I honestly can’t see a slip it looks like her back legs kind of just go from underneath her.
I stopped watching Tara after seeing how atrocious her backing Bella videos are especially with the video where Bella was starting to charge at her bc she wasn't having it with her owner's crap that day, but this is horrible. Tara and the comments are claiming that Bella slipped, but as I looked at the slow-mo footage in the video, that doesn't look like a slip to me! I am worried about what's gonna happen to this poor horse if this stuff continues.
The horse was lame last year, agree she's to heavy for horse.Its all about galloping on her other two horses.😢
I actually posted that my first thought was either locking or collapsed stifle.......she deleted it lol.
Oh No! Another one of Tara not knowing what she's doing!!
I do agree with everything you say. I'm in the uk and learned to ride at a dressage yard but on experienced horses. This is very hard to watch for me and I personally think Bella would benefit from a lot of groundwork and no riding at this time. I don't object to a bit, but there is a way to introduce a bit and it's not this video! I also think she should be able to ride Bella with no bit initially. Anyhow there's a lot of stuff I think and unfortunately, Bella can't benefit from it. Sad.
She is definitely too heavy for that Arabian horse. But, unfortunately it is none of our business. The horse will suffer and her sycophants will drool and say how wonderful. I did enjoy watching the angry husband try to ride the Friesian. That was funny. Nothing anyone can do about any of it.
I'm pretty sure that Bella was older than you said. From watching her, from the purchase, through the training, I'm sure Bella WAS at least 4, possibly 5 years old.
Kt i wish this lady, would stop, that horse, is really sweet, that lady is going to teach her to buck and rear, if she keeps doing what she's doing, I wish i could save this horse,
Too busy trying to get a leg yield, should try to get a soft happy walk.
OMG yes, leg yields, half passes, shoulder in etc are far too difficult for her yet. She needs to walk in a straight line to start with. She has rushed Bella far too quickly and started her far too young in my opinion.
Tara is not trying to get any of these moves, these moves are the horse evading and resisting and Tara just ‘names’ them. The latest ‘move’ she named as a flying change. It was no more flying change than fly in the air. The woman is wilfully blind to her incompetence and discomfort the horse is in.
Why doesn't tara, just walk on a long, loose rein, and practise halt, and pressure and release.
Because it would bolt if she gave it a long rein
@@stolensilver6963 that does happen, when your always holding on to the horse, with a short tight rein. Practice, and the very tense , horse, wilk learn, that a long loose rein, doesn't mean, run off.
I think tara means well but she is quite defensive when you comment on her videos
Bit late to the comments, but there is another new video from Tara showing Bella free-jumping in the manege - I wasn’t able to watch much of it as I was tensing up every time the horse ran to the rails of enclosure…stopping short of attempting to jump out! Also when passing Tara’s meek husband who was videoing, Bella was just repressing an urge to barge him or kick out, I’m sure of it 🫣 At rest, she was clearly over-stimulated, with heaving sides and hyper-focused. What is Tara doing to this gorgeous juvenile mare??😢
OMG.... poor Bella. If I tried free-jumping with a horse, I would only continue if the horse enjoys it. Had a Haflinger 15 years ago and he looooved free-jumping and jumping in general. I like to jump too, but only if the horse enjoys it, and neither would I jump with the horse too frequently nor very high. I don't see any sense in making a horse (free-)jump if it dislikes this type of exercise.
I kearned E riding in a Riding School and no young horse is going with a bogeded neck. You have to work it and it has to be SOFT!!
I was competing in jumping when I was younger and fearless. But as I got the first information about Western Riding+ Side-Pull and so on, I changed to Western. And thanks to 'Think like A Horse" I know rhat I did not imagine the horses I saw were in pain.
Horrid.This should be classified under "horror movies". Most of it. So much talking and so much pressure. No understanding of horse feedback at all. From the young age with this poor filly.
And all that hanging on the reins as if she were hanging on a cliff for dear life. I'm glad that filly still has her lower jaw. I'm not sure about her teeth though. Tara pulls on the reins so much the horse twists the neck backwards. And for NO reason.Horrifying.
And that channel is so bloody posh. Some royal attitude vibes. So over-confident it's already harmful.
Her horses are always accused of being nasty, stubborn, having a bad day, fresh...it's ridiculous. In reality, their horses are saints.
If at least they didn't post all that horror as a proper training while it really looks as somebody 50 years old riding for the first time!!
Well, sadly, that channel only teaches what NOT to do.
I'm with you there, it's a great channel to show what NOT to do 😅🐴
She should have lightly backed poor Bella doing a small walk ext, Then put her out to grass for another year to mature and let her think about the gentle process of having someone on her back!!! But not Tara??? The woman is delusional!!!!!
the poor horses of her weight and like having a sack of potatoes and her screaming to them
Btw now i've noticed Bella has grown up since i saw Tara broken her ...in the very young age 😟
Feel so bad for this horse and her other horses. Tara has no idea what she is doing.
She can't trot on because she can't flex her neck because tara hangs onto the reins,,,,, tightly. Your comments are exhaustively exactly what I frustratingly see.
Look at poor Bella!! She is still bum high she has still so much growing and maturing to do!!!! I find this very distressing!!!!
Tara has always been an accident waiting to happen.She has ridden Bella far too early .Tara does not accept critism,she is a Northener and all her comments are praising her ,there is never anyone pointing out faults.Tara never stops talking her riding isn't balanced.Poor Bella is far too young to be ridden she is all over the place.And now she has taking to hacking her out .Tara rides like an irresponsible teenager when she's out.But your comments are wasted on Tara I have given up watching her because she gets on my nerves
Her stable management is excellent but her riding is appalling. I suggested that Tara gets herself a steady old cob to hack out on and leave these young horses to someone who knows how to ride.Unfortunatly all your comments will fall on deaf ears.Thankyou.
I noticed your comment and I had commented the same. Get her out with a companion to give her confidence as it's all new to her. She probably deleted lol
She is starting to annoy me. When the horse is naughty she always says good boy. If you say that the horse will keep doing it. 😮
She can't ride and is afraid
Unfortunately this is continuing - Tara has uploaded a video showing the mare bucking under saddle in the manege - her unrefined, unempathic riding ‘style’ response was to aggressively yank on the reins and yell at the horse. Comments on the video offering constructive criticism are universally shouted down by Tara’s tame & deluded fans. Occasionally Tara herself responds in her typical blunt (rude) manner. I’m reminded of the Yorkshire saying ‘A bulldog chewing a wasp’.
This is going to continue because she obviously thrives on the ridiculous positive comments from her non horsey followers. They need to take off their rose tinted glasses and recognise her training is abysmal.
I think she is going through people one by one a barring them if they dare to question her.
I’m in America. Can someone report her to the RSPCA??? Her videos have all the proof they’d need to make a decision.
Unfortunately as long as they are fed, watered and have shelter it is not classed as cruelty, and to be fair she does look after their needs well. It is just her riding that upsets me.
I use a mounting block, could not get on from the ground to save my life. Although to be honest watching how the saddle moves when mounted from the ground I think it definitely is harder on the horse. I also do not think someone using a mounting block has any correlation to how they ride. Although I’m a pretty average rider at best. But anyway on this women’s training of Bella. She’s awful and has caused the problems with her hard hands and confusing signals.
I can definitely see your point and I've since changed my mind on mounting from a block or other surface if it's easier on the horse, and for the human if you're too short. Thanks for the input!
Well said.
Way too many commands that the horse obviously doesn't know the meaning of. Then when she asks the horse to tr-ot from a canter, the horse keeps cantering and is not corrected for it! So now the horse probably believes tr-ot means canter! And to make it even worse, she says tr-ot many, many times, so she's just reinforcing that trot means to canter. Also, this person says whoa just to slow the horse down, and it drives me crazy. To me, when you say whoa, that means to STOP, and right NOW - not to just slow down. In an emergency situation, the horse needs to stop ASAP when you say whoa for the safety of both horse and handler. If I was this horse I would have thrown her off my back many times by now. It's amazing how much animals will put up with inconsistencies and suffer on. I feel sorry for this horse because she never gets relief from the bit, or from this woman's constant chatter that she does not understand. And this woman thinks she has soft hands? She mentioned that in the comments in another video, and anyone can see she has very heavy hands. So much so that she pulls one rein tight, and expects the horse to "walk on" when she's actually pulling the horse sideways, and then wonders why the horse won't walk a straight line! Wake up lady - the horse is terribly frustrated, and some day soon she will send you flying through the air. Learn to ride!
Yes Bella is only 2 or 3 yr.s old.
The horse is doing pretty much exactly what the rider is (inadvertently) telling her. However, this is not what the rider wants. The lack of knowledge on biomechancis, and also what most of us are actually taught has a lot to answer for. Its always more noticeable on young or untrained horses where the natural reactions have not yet been beaten out of them.
Does anyone know what happened to Tara’s brother, Steve? (Running Man). He used to be in many videos and also rode Apollo quite a bit but I haven’t seen him now for a long time.
I think he may be unwell
I thought running man was Tara’s husband’s brother?
They look alike.
I don’t know - I don’t believe I’ve ever seen her husband’s brother. @@LaurieLambChops-yn6zy
@@LaurieLambChops-yn6zy I could be wrong, he could be Tara’s brother.
I had to unfollow Tara. I don't have a horse but love them and watched this channel constantly but a few months ago something stopped me. Something about these videos made me uneasy after watching your video today I'm glad I did.
Thank you for the support, I really appreciate that! 🐴🥰
Trust your instincts…do you watch stable horse training in Canada…you can get to know a herd in the most lovley gentle respectful way,I adore that channel
❤with so many commenting about tara, she was riding bella with a saddle that moved round!! You mention too young relating to bella, tara is too heavy for bella. And farouke. Bella constantly tries to evade tara and get tara off her back. There is too much schoolwork, her horses are too young, too much too soon. I agree with absolutely everything you are saying. It's abuse. She's got 2 lovely willing to please horses and omg you talk about the video, you mention EVERYTHING, ITS ALL awful. There must be a vet nearby, bcos tara has had them outto her. Surely they could do something. Does your talk over video ,tara doesn't lunge, no patience, which is spot on get to tara. Bella is too small for tara. You see everything that I see and you are still watching her. You are very good at putting it all into words. Walk on,stop it, stop being silly. Tara is dangerous. I have ridden high calibre horses all my life , taking race horses off from the racetrack to gently retrain them, on my own, taking whatever time they need. Your patience to keep talking thru it is very good, but you sound exhausted. I have had to stop watching. Is there any help for these horses. I mean, you lunge first usually. Your explanations are spot on.
Thank you for the support! I'm glad I can help to get the point across that many of Tara's viewers have frustratingly been unable to say. I do get burnt out from time to time reviewing these videos, but it really energizes me seeing how I can be a relief to other people and to hear the wonderful stories from you all. I'm so glad you are patient enough to work with off the track race horses, they really need a lot of TLC and are so deserving of it. Keep up the great work you do, I know the horses in your care appreciate it! ❤️🐴
The problem is that tara doesn't listen and realise!! And now she's up there, big lick. Abuse is abuse, no matter what
Sorry horrible 😢
Hi,I love your comments. Just discovered your channel recently. I was also thinking the same about poor little Bella. I have a 5 year old Rocky and I haven’t even sat on her. I am taking it very slow, maybe to slow according to some, but I think it is more important that my horse has fun with me. And for the moment Flicka and I are doing ground work (going backwards, hip target, walking over mats…). I was just wondering what you think about using positive reinforcement in horse training? That’s how I am teaching my horse ever since she was little, I also try to give her choices in the training. I am by no means perfect and I am pretty sure I make mistakes but I am getting help with an experienced trainer who backs horse wit +R. Have a nice day. And thx for the video.
That's terrific, I'm so glad to hear all that! I prefer to go slower than faster, as it's a process not an event 😊 I love the idea of using positive reinforcement with horses as well, keep up the great work, super happy for you! 🥰🐴
@@K9Tay thx, yes it is, I also feel that when she was 3 or even 4 she was a baby, she matured a lot… we worked on reign cues, she knows the cues walk and wow (stop) and I am now transferring this to the reigns and it’s really going smoothly and softly. I even bought a big teddy bear (100 cm) to be Flicka’s first rider, and when she used to that I think I ‘ll ask a girl (20 kilos) to sit on her. Don’t know when that will happen, I am taking my time. Flicka also finds it very strange if someone is standing on a chair beside her, she doesn’t give large signals, just going one step behind but that gives me information. I do have to watch out that I don’t use to nice treats and give her plenty of if, but no training method is perfect and it all requires lots of work.
I love that idea of the teddy bear as her first "rider"!! I wish you all the luck with her progress! 🐴💞
i agree with all the comments here ...i have watch tara since before she bought Bella . I always thought like people are saying shes started riding her too soon for too long etc ,she is too heavy imo for both her and farouk but she wont listen to anyone , i feel for both horses and she has come off a couple of times i think with Farouk . She looks nervous tho she says she doesn't . There's an accident waiting to happen unfortunately i do hope whom ever the horse is that they will be ok . 😢
It’s 2 years old
she's actually 4 years now. the woman is afraid of her as she rears and bucks. probably why she won't let go of the reins, no brakes!
As if anybody would wait till horses are grown, 5-7 years old. Power to you, but that is so unrealistic. Very, very, sadly and tragically so. Actually the trend is to start earlier and earlier. Horses are expensive, people want to use it as early as possible: They are sports-equipment.
She just did a three hour ride on her the other day Bella was exhausted poor thing .
I think you may be wrong here. I’m definitely not a fan of Tara but she has never done a 3 hour ride on Bella. She did her Coral ride which is not 3 hours. Bella is far too young and green to be ridden for 3 hours which I don’t believe she was.
Bella is 4 I think at the time of this video. Bella is saying I want to do whatever it is you want me to do, but what the heck DO you want me to do??? Sadly, I feel Tara is ruining a potentially brilliant clever and talented young mare.
Agreed, poor little thing is trying so hard to give Tara the right answer, but there isn't one. :c
Horse is likely in pain and just wants her off its back.
I saw that video online and the comments by people. You are not alone in your comments. BTW. The owner said in a video 5 months ago Bella was 2 1/2 years old so she is now not even a three year old.
She is actually 4.
Actually, Bella was bought as a yearling back in 2020. She's either 4 years old now or going on 4 this year.
She's a 4 year old.