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How to Make A Dangerous Horse - Not A Horse Problem - Understanding Pressure & Release Of Pressure
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2022
- I know this is long video but I think there are really good lessons to be learned about horse confusion, frustration, pressure and release in training horses. Enjoy
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you are the problem! you are not there, you act like you know? these people are excellent with this young mare, unbroken, and learning. leave these people alone!
lol very articulate comment thanks for all the supporting facts to your feelings.. smh
Colleen, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Not to be rude, but these people have zero clue about horses. I'm not being mean. It's just true. The fact that they are unwilling to change or admit mistakes is what makes them dangerous to themselves and inexperienced horse people who think they know what they're doing.
They are everything but definitely not excellent...
These people don't know what they don't know
They've had Bell for at least a year, she's not brand new to them.
I used to support Tara quite a bit, she's not a professional and she seemed to be doing alright with her horses. That is until a more recent video where she took Bella to a super busy main road to "desensitise" her to cars. But the whole video was Bella being "excited" (more like terrified), being on a long rope and being so uncontrolled by all those speeding cars. There's no excuse for that, the drivers were absolutely not to blame you can't expect them to slow down in a 50mph zone just because you decided to bring your horse to the road, and of course the entire video she blamed the drivers and yelled at Bella to "stop being silly". I'm very surprised nothing happened in that video I was so convinced someone was going to get seriously hurt. I just can't support her after that, it showed so little understanding and thought about the dangers she put a horse in.
yeah, she doesn't have the strength to hold her if she wanted to go. foolish to take her there. she's lucky she didn't cause an accident with the cars!
Yes agreed,I saw the same video and thought how dangerous and dumb all in one..... Can't support this .... Again poor Bella.🐎❤️🐎
@Ketazowski yeah sad thing is there's so many more videos like this.Sadly this isent just a one time thing.😔..... I've got to watch other horsey videos to cheer myself up after watching any of these..... Luckily there out there.😁🐎❤️🐎
Well she can’t ride her now because she was seen by a horse therapist and she told her that Bella is lame and she was born with long legs and she needs to have a physiotherapy and not get backed for few months ,,, poor mare
she sounds like a brain dead idiot
When the video starts with a laugh, we know we are in for a ride
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I started watching their channel a while ago and fell in love with their freisan horse Apollo, he is stunning and a real gentleman, Over time I started getting a bit annoyed by all the sickly sweet comments and utter drivel from people who obviously know nothing about horses, The horses are very well looked after but I don't get a sense of actual love from the owners more like a possession, any criticism is met with comments like 'Each to their own' It's their way and that's that, I feel like the husband is just pandering to his wife and everything is about her, I don't think he's comfortable around horses and it shows, I find her to be very bossy and rude, just rushing up behind people shouting ' can I come by' as if everyone should just get out of the way, there was a video I really didn't like of her trying to make bella stand at the mounting block and each time bella moved she would punish by making her go backwards at a really fast pace that looked so uncomfortable for bella, I wish they would take the good advice given but sadly they too far up their own backsides to listen!
That video you are talking about with Bella moving and being lunged in small circles really made me angry. This poor green unconditioned filly was being punished, not just moving her feet. You could see her getting very tired. When Tara brought her to the block for her to get on, she shifted her weight for balance and Tara made this very weary filly run around on the lunge once more. There's no rhyme or reason to her training so I'm not surprised Bella became very resistant.
@@shelaghhall5900 💯
Excellent summary, she’s so convinced of her own ability she’s blind to the issues. She won’t take criticism or advice and I think someone is going to get hurt.
When I saw a video where Tara was "jumping" with her Friesian, you only had to look at the way she was riding the horse heavily, the unsuitable equipment and the way she fell like a bag in her saddle while the horse jumped to realize that she has neither experience nor respect for her horses. Not everyone has a professional level, everyone does what they can, but this woman has no humility. Other than screaming, complaining and making excuses I saw nothing in her videos but incompetence, she looks like a spoiled little girl.
@@bostack6714 with poor Bella she's pushing her like she is a made horse not a green bean. Asking her to back up 10-15 steps at once, lunging too small circles, making her do leg yields, too tight reins so the horse keeps stopping while being asked to go...massive confusion. It's been horrible to watch :/. If you go back to a video where you see Bella stumble really badly you can see where her lameness started. :'(
As soon as I heard Tara's voice, I sighed and rolled my eyes, saying, "Oh no... here we go again. More horse blaming. Poor bella." It's so frustrating watching their videos and their lack of horse understanding. Once again, another great video, Rick. Always great watching you explain things from a horse's perspective. People really need to start seeing things from their horse's perspective, but people just don't want to admit they're the cause, and it's honestly sad.
ME 2. I WISH I COUD GO GET HER. I'D GIVE HER A BETTER LIFE THAN SHE HAS NOW.
Tara is a very good trainer, no she’s not a professional, but go watch her new videos with Bella. She’s coming along great.
@@sidilicious11 Please tell me how you can look at her videos-and this one-and go, “oh yeah, definitely a good trainer. It’s the horse’s fault, not Tara’s.” ???? This isn’t good training, just setting up a horse to fail, and it is so, so obvious.
@@Eleganciaaaaaa her CZcams channel is called Tara. She doesn’t claim to be a professional trainer, doesn’t teach her techniques, it’s just her vlog type videos. Her husband is not as experienced as she is but he can ride and loves their horses. I don’t know exactly why I’m defending them. Maybe it’s cuz they do right by their horses in general, and Tara has trained them and done well for what she wants. If you are looking for exceptional horse training videos I suggest Steve Young in the Uk, Ryan Rose, and Pear Tree Ranch in the USA.
@@sidilicious11 That's all well and good but completely irrelevant to this video. What do you think of Rens's handling of Bella in THIS video? Do you agree with Rick on any of the points he made? 🤔
That poor horse has to endure so much. I'm glad you use their videos to educate people.
New sub here and your only into 4 minutes into this and I feel sick! Poor poor horse. Keep up the good work Rick. these people really need you
Thanks for subbing
This is what they are willing to film and upload. Imagine what goes on when the cameras are switched off 😬
Total nightmare I’m telling you
Thank you Rick for standing up for the abused and confused horse. She doesn't deserve to be treated like that. I don't to watch your video to know what happens. I've already seen it and I can't believe that they get away with all the abuse that poor mare is receiving.
This video really reminds me a lot of something my riding instructor told me a few days ago he said "Its important when riding and working with horses that we give them clear and understandable commands , so they wont have to guess what we want because if a horse is left guessing what we want it will end up confusing the animal which will lead to dangerous and undesirable situations"
Maybe not word for word exact but this video really reminded me a lot of that quote. I do hope thees people eventually learn better, not sure if they will but I can still hope for it.
Rick and his real followers know this is gonna be a mess when they see the horse in the air before they even click on the video - As well as the hand close to the head, blanket etc
This is very interesting…I’ve watched Tara’s videos on and off for a couple of years, and have always admired her gorgeous, intelligent horses (I do find her riding style difficult to watch…English old-school, heavy, unrefined hunting type seat and unstable lower leg). I’ve always felt bad for Farouk in particular who seems a sensitive fish out of water amongst the rest of the family…he is an intuitive, special animal who is teaching Tara how to ride from emotional intelligence and not from learnt behaviour. This video is really eye-opening though about the overall attitude and lack of sensitivity in the household…I don’t think there is any deliberate bullying here, more a lack of refinement and openmindedness.
It isn’t an issue of style. Sorry but I’ve been around proper English riding style my entire life, and her seat is terrible. She is a sloppy and undisciplined rider who doesn’t use her legs and slams into the saddle. Everything about these two screams inexperience and fear.
Ive always been puzzled by Tara because she's not a newbie..She has a lot of years riding and seems a kind person. I keep thinking why doesnt she learn? Only your comment got thru to me - It's her Style : old school , heavy-handed. Hard to change a lack of sensitivity and openmindedness.
I’ve been watching you videos for 4 years now. You totally changed how a worked with horses. Honestly it reegnighted my love for them. I don’t even ride them anymore. I just do ground work because it’s so much better. The dynamic is better and easier. My horses are calm, they love me and my 3 year old even got a significant injury and let us treat it with no issues. She was so calm that we wrapped the wound to stop the bleeding and she didn’t care. Any other horse would have run and bleed out.
Id love to see more videos from you that act as guides. The criticism videos are great and totally valid but they can be stressful to watch. Good job mate. You’ve changed the game
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Brilliant video as always, Rick. I only wish Tara and Rens would swallow their pride for once and watch it so that they could actually learn something. We watched this when it was fist published and all I can remember is shouting at the TV......
Won't happen. She's back to lunging the filly under saddle. The filly is now four years old with a mindset that she doesn't want to be bothered with all this and is acting aggressively as a result. I just watched the last two posted videos and the bucking and charging the filly was doing. I posted to the first video with a link to a video from Tim Anderson dealing with a young horse that he'd just gotten in that had the same attitude problems. The upshot was I quickly got a notification from CZcams that the post had been removed as it was labeled "harassment" and if I did it again CZcams would remove my posting privileges. So, no, they are not interested in watching videos that might help them with their filly's problems.
@@DoubleDogDare54Of course those types of people like most will never listen because they already know everything and do everything right.
@@TeaCup1940 Well, she almost got thrown from that Arab when he bolted and ran off with her recently, so I shall watch with great interest how things progress when she climbs on Good Girl Bella and orders her forward.
Don’t forget, quicken the trot, slow the trot, head down, clever girl!!!
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Mare Bella showed a lot of patience with the guy who has absolutely no idea what to do. You should not get a horse in the hand of a person who is not trained at all. This video is perfect in explaining what not to do - I have never seen such a desasterous way of moving horses with a halter and a rope.
This guy thinks he's in charge when he could be crushed to the ground in 2 seconds
@@kathychildress18 oh, but his mighty finger pointing will save him...
The horse showed extreme kindness by not kicking/striking/crushing this guy for his abuse of her. Poor horse. These people should not have horses, that is clear.
@@rosablume4346 well he did say stand 😂😂😂
Well people have to learn. And as with all learning, they'll make mistakes as they go. But whoever is supposedly in charge (hopefully not this guy) might have made the decision not to let it go on so long. Who are these people and who is "Tara"? Is she supposed to be someone helping people who have gotten into a bad routine with their horses? If so, less film and more help, I'd say.
People don't realize how important it is to work with quiet signals. When a horse is held tightly and snapped at odd times, it is easy for the horse to get numb or retalliatory under that treatment. I"m So glad you are strong and reasonable in your evaluation!!
This must be the only video of theirs that I haven't seen before. Poor Rens and poor Bella, she was so confused and receiving no release whatsoever. I really don't think he has the experience to handle an extremely young, feisty Andalusian mare as we can see here. Would be nice if Tara actually viewed this and listened to your comments Rick. As always very informative. Bella has turned into a stunning mare and will go far but in the right hands of course.
Thank you; So many people make up excuses because they lack the proper knowledge and this is a good learning experience as you talk about this video. Hopefully others can learn and understand the mistakes we make with our horses as we learn to make good changes for better outcomes.
Agree with everything you say. Horse language is very important to learn and be always observe . It's never ever the horses fault. Like all animals, they only know what they're taught and learn from correct or incorrect training.
I'm late seeing this, but you are SO correct in your observation of the video. That was really bad!! He is so lucky he was not seriously hurt! A person does not have to be there in person to see a different scenario than the video we see here! I used to watch that channel when it was about trail riding with the two older well trained horses. There was a couple concerning behaviors with one of those, but I sort of discarded it. After the TWO yearlings were purchased, and watching the handling of them....I had to drop the channel. It confirmed some of my earlier concerns. It breaks my heart to see incorrect handling, yes, incorrect. I wish someone who knows how to help Bella would purchase her, get her out of that environment. Thank you Rick.
I know you say you hate doing these videos but I love them, I learn so much!
I have never owned a horse, but love learning about them from Rick at Think Like A Horse. Magnificent and fascinating animals.
Well I only managed to watch 30 minutes, sorry Rick I can't bare to see horses abused in this manner
You do an amazing job at explaining the right way in comparison to what most people believe is the right way,
Thankyou for helping me understand my horses and with that knowledge I'm rewarded with respectful horses,
Thankyou
Me too. Wish certain people could be banned from ownership until they have taken several courses and passed
They've collected the pretty horses and like to show them off. Don't think it has anything to do with being good horsemen at all. Especially when she rides them in those huge groups of people without having her horses under control... that is dangerous. Unfortunate for their three horses. Thanks for the video Rick! :)
Ikr… it’s always a red flag for me when someone only buys the pretty expensive buzzword breeds, like come on a friesian arabian and andalusian? that’s like the three top breeds you see every “equestrian” showing off on tik tok and instagram. I’m calling it now, their next horse is gonna be a purebreed KWPN 😂
@@Vapormoon Or an Akhal-Teke for the shiny and colourful coat 😔
@@Vapormoon More than likely 🤣I have enough on my plate and being retired with the one TB, I can't understand why the need for 3. Oh well.
@@firstdecanpisces2495 Oooooh, yes please, dream horse !!!
Thank you Rick for this!
I followed Tara for a long time and respekted her dealing with apollo and farouk.
But but i think with bella they are overwhelmed. Poor Bella
So glad I found this channel. I have been watching this couple for a while now. Oh dear oh dear it's just really bad accident waiting to happen. No way would I have put a complete novice in this situation and just stand there watching him get in to a very dangerous situation on so many levels. 😬🤕😱
It helps to learn from someone else's mistakes.
Have you looked at Steve Young’s Horsemanship? He is a guy in Britain who teaches folks how to make your idea the horses’ idea. He specifically handles “dangerous” horses by showing owners it is not the fault of the horse.
He's amazing, Steve Young ends up fixing horses like poor Bella...🐎❤️🐎
I am watching this video a year after it was posted and I'm thinking they need Steve Y. I sincerely hope they recognize their limitations and get help. This was so hard to watch. There were so many occasions for a nasty accident.
Thanks Rick. I learned something today about myself. If I tell myself, "So and so is mean, stupid or aggressive," negative talk makes me see that person in a negative way. I love listening to you explain how a horse interprets our behavior. We can learn so much from horses.
Thought the same thing. You can replace "horse" with child, dog, partner, husband, wife, girlfriend, co-worker, manager - with EVERYTHING and it's still true.
I didn't even have to start playing it and I recognize the man and the horse. Poor Bella. She's such a sweet horse but they've almost ruined her.
You absolutely got that right!!
Great video again Rick.. I feel for all 3 of their horses... every video they post gives me concerns... I'm not perfect far from but really poor Bella doesn't stand a chance at the moment.. please keep breaking their videos down so we can spread the word that this isn't the right way to train x
Ugh. That poor horse. Spot on Rick. As usual!
This guy is an accident waiting to happen! Poor Horsie! 😭 and the horse gets blamed. Such a shame!
There was a boarder at the barn I rode at that acted just like this man. The horse was a mellow draft cross but the man was afaid of him. He would hold him tight, yell whoa at him (leading) and yank and yank the lead. He wouldn't let the girls at the barn handle him because he was too dangerous. Well, the guy ran out on his board and left the horse there. Guess what? All the girls at the barn rode and jumped him. He was a sweetheart. What you are saying is 100% right! 👍
Like the vet assistant telling me one of my young cats was "vicious." Nope-- he's a good natured cat, but hasn't been handled enough. He's scared.
@@EXROBOWIDOW most people in vet med are “dog people”. Try to find a vet who prefers to work with cats rather than just tolerating them. I can count the cat people I work with on one hand.
Even when you comment on their videos saying what they're doing is wrong a whole horde toxic fans come to defend them. Honestly the lady doesn't know how to train a horse. I feel sorry for Bella
I know right? That's because these Tara's fans r dummies!
I think they like it when Bella acts up, gives them a video to shoot.
My horses thank you, as a woman it may be hard to hear you sometimes, thats just pride,but i dont want my horse to suffer because of my lack of understanding of the animal. Thank you more people are changing the way the train because of your videos.
You are absolutely correct, this horse is confused, frustrated and afraid of what might happen.
Shouting, pressure, nervousness, aggression, completely unbalance the horse, it is a recipe for failure.
Never yell at a horse, horses hate yelling and the result of any training or relationship with them will be disastrous.
Peace and a calm mind are what give results.
This man should listen to your valuable advice, and he should also watch James French's Trust Technique videos.
Which proves that training with a calm and peaceful approach and a calm and peaceful environment is the secret to an excellent result and a relationship of trust and partnership.
It's never the horse's fault, it's always the human being's fault.
I was just wondering, Rick how much better Bella would have behaved when he first led her out if he would have let the rope go slack and just reassured her. I wish people would listen and avoid cornering their horses. So dangerous for horse and handler. I'm amazed this man hasn't been seriously injured 😫. Turning a horse out then chasing it away-now that's puzzling. I always liked to give give my horse a gentle goodbye pat. Thanks for trying to help 🙂 the horse, the trainer, and all of us who want to learn.
there's a current video of Tara leading Bella to the field (bucking backwards is the title) but they edited out the actual release part of the video...hmmm...wonder what happened?
I learn more and more everytime I watch your videos. I won't ever use spurs, whips, or put so much metal on any horses face. Thank You Rick
Great to hear!
I sometimes watch a part of Tara's videos - seldom can make it to the end but I hadn't seen this one . From what I've watched this guy handling this horse is terrified of them in general . Allowing him to handle this green strong willed reactive young mare is a recipe for disaster and put him in real danger . All animals can smell the fear on you and are far more capable of reading our body language than we are of theirs . They definitely need some help before they are seriously injured or worse .
I got $5 that says Bella’s already kicked Tara at least once.
That was really embarrassingly bad, poor Bella. I hope Tara watches this and see's this for how bad it really was.
She is!!! She is filming it. And they both should be embarrassed.
this horse is so frickin patient with him...he gives so much pressure he is lucky the horse didn´t start to bite and kick him down :D
both tara and her fans make up the funniest excuses I've ever heard. here's a list of the ones I remember seeing just from the comment section of the video where bella reared and flipped over: birds flying overhead, the grass, a fly, sunlight, a bee, noise from neighbors.... all followed up with commendations for tara and her husband for how well they handled her 🤣🤦
Don't forget sheep, cattle, wind, cars, out-of-control dogs, their sorry owners, Bella's skin condition, Bella's attitude, and the cruel and awful breeder that neglected her😂 They can do no wrong 🙄
@@hannahmelton5331 smh they should’ve all worn red ribbons!! Just nasty
@@Vapormoon omg that comment just made my day 🤣 I'll never understand why anyone wants to/thinks it's a good idea to ride their horse up the butt of another horse they've never even seen before.
My God. Are people really that stupid?
and let's not forget the uneven ground that makes her horses stumble all the time
Rick....you legend...tell it how it is mate.
42:21 Bella’s face. This girl is actually being amazingly forgiving to these people.
After that Bucking Bella video where Bella reared up on the path before they were even in the arena, clearly very upset about going in that rock garden/training area and all Tara did was yank on her and force her forward while scolding her and then STILL didn’t get the message after wrestling over that halter off at the gate. There’s no attempt to calm her down or redirect her before the complete meltdown that everyone could clearly see was about to happen. Tara leaves the arena immediately as her desperate 3 yr old horse FLIPS out and races around in sheer panic until she’s finally exhausted at which point Tara then gives her, you’ll never guess, a TREAT. Good job realizing that you’re on your own with these two, Bella.
The comments on that video are certifiably insane. They think the horse is happy and having so much fun racing up and down the fence line. Unreal.
@@phambabe
Unfortunately in the end, someone WILL get hurt.
Horses teach hard lessons.
Bella is too good of a horse for them.
Thank you so much Rick! 👌👍 An excellent running commentary on what's being done incorrectly and how Bella feels about it all. Thanks for teaching everyone watching this video to look at everything from the horse's point of view. I absolutely agree 100% with everything you've said. And I'm feeling so sorry for Bella who must be extremely frustrated - I can't see any improvement whatsoever in her behaviour compared to the previous video of her that I watched maybe 3 months ago 😔
@@kylieboettcher7438 It's called "Beauty and the Beast all rolled into one"
You are absolutely right Rick this man is afraid of this horse. You can see it in all his body language of the man. So he will always have trouble with this horse the way he is being around her.
Bella has come a long way not because of the person "training" her but because she is trying really really hard to understand and be rewarded with praise. However, some day she is going to bolt, buck, or do something in response to her confusion and the rider will be seriously injured. Then the poor animal will be labelled uncooperative and dangerous. The one good thing I can say about the "trainer" is that she takes decent care of two of the three horses she has, meaning nice shelters, adequate feed, grooming, farrier work. One horse is thin and overworked, not given proper nutrition for the amount of work it does for the "trainer." Endurance rides are wearing the animal out and the "trainer" doesn't seem to notice, thinks the animal enjoys the exercise.
Riiiick, 🤦♀️ 😂 please no more Tara and her husband videos! This horse Bella is scared and unsure, poor horse is so confused. Too bad the handler and Tara are totally clueless!! Thank you as always for your insights Rick 👍 Have a good one 🤠!!!
Give her a treat! Good girl!
After watching this, I have more tips for leading horses out to pasture when I do barn chores. Thanks Rick. 😀 When I have horses who get antsy about going out, I will do groundwork with them-having them woah, walk on, back up if needed, circle if they get to far in ahead, and bribery. As soon as we get to the gate, I woah them, say butt and shockingly they move, and they get the treat and halter off. The only horse who gives me a run for my money is the stallion. I wish to God he was gelded, but he is the barn owner's horse and is almost 30.
You've done a good job Rick, explaining step by step the difference between what we are told happens and what's really going on. I pray someone can make this couple listen and see sense 🙏 because this is a hopeless situation for Bella. And an accident waiting to happen for Rens.
Oh, and the "eh eh eh eh...!"? That's a Dutch thing I fear. (I can almost hear my mum 🤭) Doesn't work on Dutch horses either... 😒
can confirm it's a dutch thing, but i thought they were british? maybe they do it there as well
@@tigy_the_tiger Hi 🐅! Rens is Dutch
@@vivrenate3310 Darn, guess our reputation is out of the window then :P
@@tigy_the_tiger 😁
No Dutch in my family, just Anglo American. My mom did it. Victoria Stilwell sometimes does it on "It's Me or the Dog." But her timing is a whole lot better: immediately after the dog does what it's not supposed to do. I think for some species, it can make a good substitute for the growl or hiss that the animal would use as a vocal warning. Horses squeal, though.
Someday there's gonna be a big pause in that channel, no videos for a while. And then the new video will come out and will find out that either one of the horses or one of the people has been injured or maybe even killed. I predict this will probably happen within the next year. God I hope I'm wrong. I don't wish ill on these people. And I want their horses to be safe. And I want the people that follow them to be knowledgeable. They have been very lucky that they haven't been hurt or killed and that their horses have not been injured badly. At least they're making enough really bad videos that it makes for a great learning experience for those who want to actually learn something.
lol
I'm sure they have plenty of footage that hasn't been published yet. As long as one of them is able to edit and publish, no need for a pause.
Ive seen the videos of her walking that mare along a main road and I agree with you.
I got a really good workout just watching that video. I'm bushed and I'm going to be really sore, too. WHEW! Glad Bella didn't pound that guy into the ground! She had every right to do it! JMO.
watching your videos has really taught me a lot about the horses perspective and understanding their way of thinking
Such an excellent horse expert 👏
My favourite training technique is also *slapping my horse in the face* after I confuse it and totally mess up the timing of a correction. This is horsemanship!
Seriously, how unknowing do you have to be? This poor horse...
It amazes me how people will defend this and are so unwillig to learn the truth. The horse is sending such clear signs of frustration.
Ohh my gosh! Pressure and release is the most important thing for horse and human to learn to communicate with the other. You put it so beautifully!!!!
Tara has outright said she doesn't believe in pressure and release :/
@@shelaghhall5900 Really??? that answers my question on if she has asked for help.
I agree with you Rick on all points here. At the same time, I feel really bad for the man who obviously doesn't understand how to teach his horse good manners and probably feels so trapped by this huge animal. In his ignorance, he is pretty brave. That can get him killed tho. Really, the man needs to go to a trainer to train HIM on how to handle and teach horses.
Agreed.
Tara is the "expert" who trains him. She also doesn't believe in pressure and release. This poor filly has not had the best training with her methods.
@@shelaghhall5900 😉ok but I as an "expert" would've left the poor man practice with the calmer horses so he could grow confidence and get a routine even if I didn't practice pressure/relief (which my horse taught me to do)
@@wolfsdream499 it's probably not as good content tho ;)
One time a friend showed up with his arm in a sling. "What happened?" "I forgot that the horse is bigger and stronger than I am."
- Horse Breathes- GOOD GIRL !!!!!
This INFURIATES me! It's a metaphor for my childhood at the hands of a Brit who only used force and negativity. This horse is not a mind reader and without kindness and consistency will only grow bitter and defensive. I remember how it felt to be rebuked incessantly and in a constant state of anxiety, not knowing what was coming next or from where or why. I feel so sorry for this horse. She doesn't stand a chance of learning how to have a confident relationship with her leader. This man's feeling of superiority and use of force can be seen in all/many aspects of British life. That's why I am living so happily in the USA.
Another thing I'd like to point out is at 7:01, by pulling off the halter like that, he is standing right in front of the horse's head and if that horse got spooked, he could have gotten knocked in the face. Hard lesson. I always undo the crown piece and hold my horse with the rope on his neck and walk away FIRST before he gets a chance to leave.
I watch both yours and Tara's channels, and enjoy them both. What I will say, that what I have always thought about Tara's husband is .... he is not a horsey person. Yes, he is fearful. He is elderly. Not as mobile as he was as a young man. It's a situation that can't be changed. He is afraid of horses but is doing his bit with them, because thats his part in his wifes life. His attempts to connect with the horses is often 'uncomfortable' to watch. I frequently watch Tara's videos and sit here yelling 'shut up Rens'. And I'm not sure if Tara discusses any of these 'issues' with him, because of respect to him as her husband. It a rock and hard place situation.
Very true , and really, how Rens managed to stay on Apollo when he used to ride 😮. His rising trot never improved ...very unsafe.
9:52 You nailed the biggest problem with this couple, they try to speak verbally to their horses and they expect them to understand and obey from verbal chatting, and to ignore all the wrong signal they are giving to them while riding or handling them. They (the humans) get so stressed at all times is hard to believe they enjoy their horses. And they transmit that stress to their horses. (The grass is the wrong green color)
the moment i realised that the less i tried to "control" a horse while leading, the more control i actually had, that was such a big brain moment. when i held it tight, made sure it always looked the right way, etc. i got more struggles than when i held it softly and with a little bit of space. i've always been a little bit of an anxious person so i often struggled between being too forgiving (like not correcting bad behavior) and too controlling. gotta find that balance and understand how the horse views it all
EDIT: NAH NOT THE WEATHER 💀 that was a painful battle to watch. what could've been very casual turned silly real quick
That is not the horse's fault. That is the handlers. They shouldn't put there shit out there if they don't want anyone to comment.
Nice video as always Rick! This video just shows that Rens, the husband has no idea how to handle a horse. Their other two horses Apollo and Farouk have become used to them not knowing what theyre doung but this us crazy. Poor Bella just wants to go run and be free and play. Its amazing that Rens didnt get himself hurt. Ive noticed in their videos its always Tara who handles Bellla. Kinda disappointed that he felt like he had to resort to getting so aggressive with her and theyre gonna make all kinds of excuses for Bella acting up. Youre right that its not her fault. Bad weather or whatever else she nreds to be outside more getting all of her energy and stuff out. They all three do. Love your videos!
Could you imagine how badly it'll be when they go to ride her? They've taught her to fight against pressure, she'll bolt and take off and there won't be a damn thing they can do about it. Sad... Then she'll be labeled as dangerous and be put down because she "can't be controlled"
She's being ridden. Still no pressure and release and not long ago Bella was acting in pain and just kept stopping. She had been resisting and rearing before this. They had the vet out finally. Right now she's recuperating and going for long (and sometimes dangerous) walks with Tara
They've already been riding her. I don't remember if she started the Friesen under saddle or not, but she started the Arab under saddle and those videos are an absolute disaster, horrible horrible training. Forget watching thriller/action movies, just watch those videos. But anyway, every riding video with this mare is so bad, just sloppy, everything is the horse's fault, and its just constant cramming treats in her mouth and when she isn't getting treats she starts getting irritated and pushy and difficult/dangerous. Then she concludes the horse is lame and that's the reason for the problems, nevermind that they 1)chose a horse with what I can only assume is very poor breeding because she is not even close to a breed standard for Andalusians, based solely on "it's cool to have an Andalusian!", she's cheaper than a quality Andalusian, she's a unique color, and she checks the box for being able to label her a rescue as the breeders had poor conditions on their farm, and obviously only bred for 2 things: the name of the breed and color. No selective breeding for good conformation, longevity, hoof quality, or behavior/temperament.... and 2)constant pulling, yanking, fighting, and neglecting to establish softness in the horse but rather teach it that resistance is the only option causes the horse to move with very poor body mechanics, which can cause injury, lameness, over developing certain muscles while leaving other important ones underdeveloped and can make the horse appear lame even if its technically not. For example, a horse lunging in a circle may appear to be limping because instead of them being soft in the face and moving around the circle well balanced, shoulder up and soft thru the ribs and hip, they are more focused on getting further away from the source of the pressure, the human, they are pulling and going around with their head and nose in the air and to the outside of the circle, dropping the shoulder and pushing the ribs and hips inward. Its awkward and very unbalanced, they will stumble and trip a lot, they may even "limp" even though they are not technically lame from the standpoint of physical testing.
@@amandak3198 I found videos of both the first Friesian horse Koning and videos of Apollo at 4 yrs already broken in to ride and drive, so she has nothing to do with that at least. Farouk was bought as a 3 yr old and Bella a yearling. :(
Stupid people with too much money and not enough sense.
@@shelaghhall5900 next to busy roads with loose lead. And acting like is such a great lesson. But the worse things she does on group rides is always come up fast and hard and so close and then shock when a horse kicked her horse. She is so frantic can zi pass can I pass. One thing really bothered me was her yelling at the farmer that said he had signs. She was all about her rights to ride on others land. I wish someone would ride around on hers. Heck share your horses with the people whose lands you feel are your right
It seems to me that if a person really loves horses they would learn all they could for the sake of their horse.
Not this couple.
I think that woman enjoys the attention and views she gets from portraying the horse as bad.
It is a poor craftsman that blames his tools
When unknowing horse people blame the horse and explain how bad the horse it, it is Confirmation Bias so they look like they know what the problem is. People that don't know any better believe them,
Thats the sad and scary part Rick. The people who think this is good horsemanship
@ThinkLikeAHorse Your right Rick!
I can't watch that situation with that mare anymore. They are ruining a great horse. I bet if they would give that mare to me I wouldn't have issues with her. My Spanish horse is the best boy but started to act up when people lead him like this man in the video because he feels trapped.
Rick the truth hurts and people don’t like it. They don’t want the accountability and judgment that comes with it
This looks very stressful for this mare. And now imagine this mare needs to endure this situation often.
The problem is that a beginner has been left alone to turn out a young horse. A young horse that is sensitive to poor/incorrect handling. I feel bad for him honestly, the lady filming should have stopped filming and gone out to help or guide him on how to get through it. If he had taken a moment to just relax, and soften his grip the whole wrestling fight trying to get the headcollar off would never have happened. He's probably terrified, and if the horse really wanted to it'd easily take off and just pull him over. It's not even this guy's fault he clearly has no idea what he's doing, its whoever left him in charge of turning the horse out on his own that's the problem, and then wasn't on hand to teach or take over from an over-escalated situation.
the lady filming THINKS HE WAS DOING A GREAT JOB
Hi Rick I hadn't watched this vidoe of the husband turning out this young mare, by god it was horrifying ,i laughed at some of your comments but at the end i was wishing she had kicked him, you must watch her new videos of her riding this poor mare ,its poor cruelty belive me she knows nothing, but her sycophants who also know nothing keep saying how wonderful she is, what joke, thank you for explaining to these people what is wrong, please watch their new videos 😊
If she was a mean horse she would have stroke him, bit him, kicked him, dragged him. She really was putting up with a lot. I'm thankful that my horse put up with me as a kid. She was incredibly smarter than me. I knew nothing about pressure and release because it wasn't spoken of then. I have a feeling this horse is smarter than the humans too. Him backed into that corner has me freaked out. If he gets the halter off she could spin and kick being happy to be loose and hit him. There is so so much wrong with this. I do think it all goes back to showing them who's boss. I'm starting to believe that people should always learn about horse behavior before getting one. Not going to say it should be required by the govt because well, they are all up in our business and shouldn't be, but maybe those selling should say hey, you need to do this beforehand.
Thank you, Rick. You see the reality of the situation, and you know just what to say. You read people and horses so damn well!
I can’t. Not. Say. Anything….but it’s not my place, so …
I suggested that someone do a LOT more groundwork before mounting this certain young beautiful spirited horse, and I got the eye-roll as my comment was deleted. I have nothing to offer them, so I’m out.
Hi Rick, in the first video I saw from you I was all offended by your tone but I started to watch more and you really have lots to teach people. I tried a few thing you said on my two mares and it really works! I also tried to ride one of them in a rope halter and it has been a revelation. Very cool. Keep teaching.
Glad to hear it I can be a little rough at first most people grow to tolerate me🤠
Why would someone stand there filming while two creatures are suffering so much?
Well basically because neither of them understand horses. In her mind, this is horse training. The old fashioned way of training horses, children, dogs was that you taught them to avoid punishment by doing what they were told. Even in that system, you have to be clear about what you want, and make sure that the child/pet understands what you want them to do. These people haven’t gotten to that step yet. They want to skip steps and have the horse be a mind reader.
So they skip to the fear part. “I told you twice. If you don’t do it, you’re being bad. I’ll hit you.”
This sort of trains overall fear. Just fear anyone who has any power over you, and try to avoid them if possible. So there’s no real relationship, it’s just a fear-based compliance model where the child/pet walks around either avoiding the trainer whenever possible, being hit a lot, or becomes hyper-attuned to every behavior of the “trainer”, merely to avoid punishment. None of the long term outcomes are good.
My eyes have fallen out of their sockets each time these people come up. The complete refusal to learn a damn thing is asinine, and the horses suffer for it.
This horse makes him anxious( saw it in the first 15 seconds), something happened and he feels the only way to prevent what ever happened before from happening again is to over control it. And the horse senses his anxiety.
This is a very good video to show people how differently they may act around and handle different horses. People often think they are handling all horses the same way but that simply isn't true. It's instinctual, for better or for worse. For worse with this guy and poor Bella.
Rick, I'm gonna use my psychic abilities to help. Hmmmm, the horse tells me that she hasn't heard "good girl" yet. Also, there is no traffic that she can run in. Hope that helps! (Of course I'm being sarcastic) :)
I laughed at the encyclopedia of “ all the reasons it went wrong” a lot of good material there.
Excellent commentary about what to do INSTEAD of what is currently being done. human version of release is knowing the correct way to correct
Did you see the video where she was at an event, took the bridle off in the worst way, and her horse ran off down the road? Horrifying.
Rick did a video on that one with Farouk
I attend lessons weekly, Quite unfortunate seeing others never giving their horse release- as we were taught ) I do have to keep a tighter rein than I’d like because of the horses learning those lessons and it being norm. Looking forward to getting enough land, time, money and experience for when I get my own horses. As you always say There is ALWAYS more to learn, you never know EVERYTHING when it comes to horses.
None of her horses has any respect for him, it’s very noticeable when he goes to the paddock and they just crowd him for a treat, actually they don’t respect her either.
If it's because the horse "doesn't spend enough time in the paddock, the field", why not put the horse out more often. Interested to see if anything changes.
At about 32:50 he asks the horse, "What are you doing?", he demonstrates that not only does he not know what the horse is doing, he doesn't know what he's doing.
England is a cold, wet place. The fields, when wet, can get chewed up until they're nothing but muddy slop. That can be dangerous for the horses. Some people have a large indoor arena they can turn the horses loose in, but these people do not. The best they could do in those conditions is work the horse or turn it loose in their sandy training arena.
@@EXROBOWIDOWBlame the climate?
@@peterk8909 Umm... Weather can injure, or even kill, both humans and animals. If conditions outdoors are dangerous, you should avoid being outdoors.
Standing in soggy mud 24/7 can harm a horse. Even in a grassy field that's too big for hooves to turn into a mud pit, wet conditions can cause toxic growths on the grass, which could poison livestock if they eat it. Most horse owners in England do not have a field that big.
Both Rick and the couple in this video have had to put down material near the field shelters to stop the mud from getting ankle deep or worse. They've done it to improve living conditions for their horses.
Yes, climate and weather can and do affect people's actions and how they choose to care for their animals.
I'm not saying the weather is to blame for what went on in this particular video, though.
@@EXROBOWIDOW OK on the weather. It doesn't change the fact that these folks, at least from the vids I've seen, continue to do the same types of things. They obviously don't do any training when the weather permits it.
@@EXROBOWIDOW I'm in Scotland, the climate here is the same if not, worse. My horses are out 24/7 and are as happy as Larry. If you don't have the land or facilities to let a horse have adequate turnout, you shouldn't own them.
The things you point out and the more I am observant and thoughtful of the feelings of pain and pressure on the horse, it's harder for me to watch. But, I do want to continue to learn what NOT to do!
You keep the balance with these analisys videos. They blabber the utter foolishness and you provide the much more realistic observations.
Believe me if I told you that every horse had a slap from Tara. There was a video where Tara and Apollo were in the indoor training with Aunti Anne and Tara was showing off some moves with Apollo and he wasn’t in the mood so when the instructor Anne wasn’t looking Apollo got a slap for embarrassing his owner. Poor horses really.
Thank you Rick for trying help people understand horses. Buddy and ransom your good boys.
Stella is such a lovely mare. I am sorry to see her learning that people are confusing and hostile and that she can do nothing correctly because it seems there is just no right answer for her.
Bella
These people are so old school, they handle the horses roughly, feel they need to be in full control at all times and act like horses are ticking time bombs constantly!
Sadly these people won't be told and won't accept responsibility.. got to focus on the younger generation and teaching them the better, correct way of handling and riding horses!
Not hating on these people but after training horses for many years some of the biggest issues here are there is no reward of released pressure for doing the right thing (while leading her and she got the pressure release, her head immediately dropped), unhooking the throat latch instead of unbuckling the halter since she obviously has a problem with the halter going over her ears, looking her directly in the face (predators do this to prey animals which, in turn, causes fear and flight or fight response in prey animals such as horses), getting frustrated with the horse (yes, you can be frustrated or mad but keep in on the inside - not on the outside by yanking, yelling, pointing etc) and finally, allowing it to move the person handling it (this causes the horse to learn very quickly that it's stronger than you and will therefore realize that you are not the dominant being)
Tara has said on video she doesn't believe in pressure and release. Poor Bella.
@@shelaghhall5900 one of the only ways to successfully train a horse...smh. The fact she's a young horse makes it even sadder
Love to put that guy in a halter and snap the lead rope on him like he does! Unbelievable, the horse is a reflection of you, so perfectly said!!!!
I wasn't surprised when he slapped her but it was still stunning !
These people will never learn it's all their fault and the horses will continue to pay for it! _People just treat all animals horribly!_
I would love to believe that animals are a reflection of me. My animals (horses, dogs, cats, etc.) have all been amazing. Wonderful, gentle companions. I would be phenomenal if my animals were a mirror of me.
Good Morning Rick 🙂 Great assessment of this video 👍🏻
Good morning!
And always Tara says...good girl...good girl...good girl ...🤦♀️...
Poor Bella...
What a desaster!