Good Times, Good Trash...WHY NETFLIX?!
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2024
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Netflix's Good Times cartoon is nothing short of a confusing, hot mess. It takes the name sake of an iconic show but doesn't follow in it's footsteps, only to trail way off path into shallow jokes, terrible stereotypes, and poor pacing in its attempt to touch on anything political.
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Thank you for falling on your sword for us and watching this “series”. You’re absolutely right when you say that people like me, who grew up watching the original “Good Times”, would hate this show. They lost me at the drug-dealer baby (blatantly stolen from Dave Chapelle) and I couldn’t watch any more. I know it’s tough out there for actors, but they should all think about returning their salaries in protest.
When the creator of the Boondocks splits over creative differences on a show about the black experience you know they fucked up.
No doubt!
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I didn't think it's divisive at all. We're ALL pissed!
I think he just chose the wrong word.
Oh, you should see some of the comments on the OG TikTok video I made. There were actually some people that were FINE with this show, defending it!
I think the word he was looking for was Infamous. That's what this show became
Who the hell is we? Just because you're sensitive and got your feelings hurt, doesn't mean everybody feels that way.
@@haboh The people defending this are probably the same people who don't mind 'other folks' calling them the n-word.
I watched a couple eps and I 100% think it is for racists.
This is how black ppl behave in real life. Is that for the racist too?
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Yup no joke it is
I mean I had the same feeling as a white woman. It feels weirdly racist towards its own protags.
Yeah not even being extra,.it’s legit weird and offensive
This show should have never seen daylight.
I gave it a chance. I really did try watching the first episode and I just couldn’t do so bad there was 19 minutes left and I just said fuck this and I switched on boyz in the hood first I’m watching that hood classic and I got phenomenal way better than whatever the hell this new show is supposed to be
So they turn the Dad into a black Peter Griffin instead of somebody that you could look up to like the original James Evans? That seems like something that they would do.
They have a black version of Stewie Griffin who a baby drug dealer yeah you can't make this 💩 up unbelievable 🤦♂️
It’s literally just the Seth MacFarlane formula. Fat dumb dad, skinny mom, male and female teenage kids, and a talking baby that acts like an adult. I call it the Cleveland Show with 500% more minstrelsy.
@@georgebrice8329They stole that from a Dave Chappelle special.
They literally are the NEW Evan’s who came from the original Evan’s they even state it in the show this is a NEW GENERATION of Pj families IFYKYK
@@D0p3of09 Yes, we are aware, which arguably makes their buffoonery MORE embarrassing. THIS is what their offspring turned into?
Why did they slap the Good Times name on this if it’s nothing like the original? They should’ve just called it ‘The Cabrini Greens’ and sold it as an edgy black animated sitcom. It would’ve killed and probably got favorable comparison to The Cleveland Show, but oh well.
I agree.
It would have been better to just call it something else
The Cleveland show was not good. Trust me, it was background noise
Cause they think that if they slap a title of a well loved show on their racist piece of mediass, then no matter how bad they eff it up they can say “look everyone it’s the show “good times” you all loved that show, so you should love this one”
So it's like Velma, just put a Scooby Doo on it. So someone would watch it
@@venti726 yep
If I had a nickel for every Bad cartoon that starts with a cocroach and a shower scene, I'd have 2 nickles.weird that that happened twice. That also happened in Velma.
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It still disgusts me how Marsai Martin and Cree Summer, Freddie from "A Different World", and Steph Curry would willingly choose to be a part of somethin like this! 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ Mannnn, I was disappointed AF. SMH
Cree Summer? Ms.Pro- black activism herself? I'm actually 😲 shocked that she participated...
Not really...It's Hollyweird
A paycheck is a paycheck
THAT was weird…I expected nothing less from Seth MacFarlane, considering that he made the Cleveland show.
But everyone else…😢
Cree Summer portrayed Foxxy Love from Drawn Together. Her character was sexually promiscuous, uneducated, and the stereotypical hoodrat single mother. It was just another voice acting job for Ms. Summer.
@@khaleem8073 I don’t know about that…Marsai was on Black~ish and she has a lot of Black friends and family that she showcases on her social media. Or maybe the people around her are just telling her to get the bag by any means necessary. 🤷🏾♀️
These remakes & reboots are getting crazy. This is worse than when everything went "gritty" in the 2000s.
I'm so grateful with have more original, respectful, shows and films out there like American Fiction, The Book of Clarence, and My Dad The Bounty Hunter outweighing this nonsense.
@@habohhopefully the backlash will get to the point where streaming site will stop greenlighting everything.
Remember the gritty Robin Hood starring Russel Crowe? I bet he doesn't either.
As a Gen- xer, I really thank you for watching this mess so that I didn’t have to. I do not know the actors’ situations , so I’ll leave it there.
Your commentary and critique was fair and is very much appreciated, thanks for posting.
In the word of Robert Townsend “There’s always work at the post office!” (Hollywood Shuffle movie) We should NEVER take jobs that paint us negatively!
@@tbroward3189 you might as well stop working. Regardless of what your occupation is, trust and believe you are being exploited.
@@tbroward3189 Then you might as well not work. If you live in this country, you’re going to be exploited no matter what the occupation . Even Robert knows this
I'm a Gen- xer too and I don't see myself watching it either.
It's weird, you would think after Bobs Burgers and Smilling friends, that adult cartoon shows would try to go in a more wholesome or at least slightly nice intention kinda vibe. Heck Even Hazbin Hotel, yeah it's edgy but the overall plot is about redemption and helping people. Nope, appearently most adult cartoon shows still wanna get that family guy/ rick and morty popularity.
A lot of people say that no one knows how to take a joke anymore but the reality is that no one knows how to make a joke without it being at someone else’s expense.
At least with Rick and Morty, no one specifically feels like they’re being attacked which is why I like the show. If anything, the show comments on certain types of people, no matter what human race, alien race, gender, or age you are. The president of the United States is a black man, but Rick’s best friend is called bird person.
invincible gave me hope for adult animation but they’re still trying to rt out of the dark ages when kids shows have BEEN out of the dark ages since the late 80s at the earliest and mid 90s at the latest
"...The Basketball Player from the Subway Commercials..." 😂💛
I’m rewatching Family Matters with my 8yo and my 8yo LOVES it… such a sweet and endearing show. I miss those sitcoms.
I started rewatching Family Matters also. Nothing like good old school positive sitcoms
Sometimes the trash takes itself out. In this case the trash is trashing and will be gone and good ridden might I add😊.
We as black people need to fund our own stuff and not be swayed by money.
We would have to come together for that. We could be giants if we could come together. Seth McFarland has the genius baby but we get the drug dealing baby. I didn’t make it 5 min in.
I never realized just how much the original show meant to people.
I cant believe they disrespected that classic series like this! If they ever try to pull something like this for The Jeffersons (my favorite show ever) im gonna go crazy
Thanks for your POV. The question still remains, "Who is this for." It's a shame that the original cast wanted to do their own, but was turned because we know it wouldn't have been this mess. Did Good Times have stereotypes, sure, but never ever to this degree. The point of the show was that no matter how hard times got, they weren't willing to succumb to the circumstances and vices to get out.
This makes me want to rewatch Family Matters. I used to watch that show at my grandparents house, and I loved it! Carl Winslow was such a great dad, and you could tell how much he cared about his kids.
Also, Steve Urkel was one of the funniest characters I'd ever seen back then. I think my favorite moment was when he had a positive reaction to being rejected by Laura, and the super specific answer he gave her when she questioned him about it. "This time you said no way Steve. Last time, you said no way Turbo Nerd. I'm wearing you down, baby!"
Thank you for your review. I was holding judgement until some other Black people saw it - I also didn't want to give them viewing numbers....
Drug dealing baby is an old Dave Chapelle joke
Being from Chicago, Southside is actually the best representation of what Chicago is really like . I was very sad and a little offended because" the chi" had how many seasons? Thank you for mentioning it❤❤❤❤
Wasn't it Family Guy where Stewie travels miles to a Will Ferrell's house to punches him in the face for a bad joke... We're looking at you, Seth.
"That's not funny!!"- Stewie Griffin
seth didnt write or create it, a lot of black people did lol. hes just a producer on it. which means securing money and staff. watch the credits to see whose really responsible for the jokes and plot. in fact, seth only wrote 3 episodes of family guy.
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Dude, there is a smart-techo baby selling drugs on the streets... That's the most Seth MacFarlane thing to ever exist. He might not take action on it personally, but the jokes and that baby, shows his influence on the show.
@@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854 that sounds like something dave chappelle would do.... seth has never done anything like that.
Thank you for watching all of the show to give a review. This was my first video of yours and I found it really entertaining while also being educational on the subject and I appreciate that. I also agree with your recommendation on South Side. South Side is hilarious and it's a shame not enough people know about it.
I think my biggest gripe with Good Times is that it could've benefited from being it's own thing and some tweaks in the writing. It doesn't have to be a Good Times cartoon, it could've been anything. I feel like it's connection to the series tarnishes Good Times as a whole. (I never fully watched Good Times, it's something my grandparents had on in the background so excuse me if that last part is unnecessary?) But I also feel this way about Mindy Kaling's Velma series. Both Velma and Good Times could've been their own standalone series and probably would've benefited from that.
Anyways, thanks for reading my ramble and thanks for the video
Once I saw Seth MacFarlane's name attached to this project, I was immediately turned off. I couldnt even get through the first episode. I thought to myself: "Did we all forget about the Cleveland Show?"
The moment they said Seth McFarland was apart of this I knew where it was gonna go.
They really pulled a reverse live action anime adaptation,I didn’t know that was possible
It will fall, it will fail!!!
I thought I was the only one that was pissed about this show
I’m surprised that Yvette is a part of it. She’s an outspoken activist.
That title of "activists" means so little in this day and age (I say at this point it should be insulting considering most activists nowadays are morons who don't know anything, most fue it for clout, or as an excuse to be scumbags). Also remember that in show business activists just means hypocrite.
The drug dealing baby seems like it was pulled out of a Dave Chappele joke
Yep, but I do feel that's something MacFarlane will do as well
I was born in 1990 and Good Times was and is my favorite show of all times. My grandmother and mother put me on it and I never put it down. The best ever to me.
They canceled A Black Lady Sketch Show!?
I'm only halfway through, but I wanna tell you... This video is so well done. ☺️🌺
Awww, thank you! That means a lot coming from you!!! 🔥💖
This show should’ve never made it past test audiences
favorite of all-time is Sanford and Son!
You are 100% right. I checked out at the opening scene. I just couldn't get past that.
The trailer was what turned me off. Your review only confirmed that this is a show for no one.
Thank you for watching and reviewing this.. Yes!! We must change the narrative and support grass roots Black artists.. That is definitely the solution. Anything Hollywood is involved in, we can expect some type of toxic propaganda. Salute!
From the trailer, I figured it was a some BS. I do have two questions...
1) The Dad is the grandson of James Evans - who is the parent of the Dad of this show?
2) How did the Dad end up returning to the projects when his parent got out at the end of the original Good Times?
I just want to know how/if they explained that this family's upward mobility ended up going backwards.
This shit non canon
I kept forgetting this was supposed to be Good Times 😂😂 I kept saying "oh shit this is good times damn" Good Times was part of my childhood even though I'm 25 my mom watched it a lot and we had the dvd sets...man. But even as someone who has watched every episode and loves this show...i stayed forgetting this is supposed to be from that show.
Thank you for your honest, objective & thorough input.
You took the time to sit & watch the ten episodes, before making documented comments.
I love how you go from the unhealthy plots to the bad animation (the frame rate count!).
This show is pure trash indeed.
This show is like a slap in the face to any black person who has ever lived......It's like a production company looked at all possible black stereotypes & said lets use them all.
I was racking my brain trying to place Delphine's voice!
This is a great rundown. I also watched the whole thing and it didn't accomplish what it attempts to do. It fell completely short. I also found the connection to the original tenuous at best, It felt like an afterthought.
Thank you for mentioning all the production/support staff who work behind the scenes. What passes as entertainment these days serves best as a spotlight on the dysfunctional leadership controlling production studios. Any group of reasonable people (outside the entertainment industry) could have advised better choices all during the "Good Times" production process. My all-time favorite black comedy, "Red Dwarf", BBC 1988. Anyone remember "Barefoot in the Park" from 1970: czcams.com/video/TGHfbX-glTc/video.htmlsi=8D_WrpE0dqba6GGt
I think the biggest loophole is two fold. As you stated, in the original series, they all managed to getnout the projects. However, this generation ended up in the exact same apt. How? Also they never mention Florida or which Evans child they are the offspring of. Are we to deduce that James stepped out on Florida? 🤔
Also, Cabrini Greens was torn down years ago
Florida Evans wasn't a housewife. She was a maid in white suburbia.
Drug dealing inner-city baby is stolen from a Dave Chappelle stand up special.
Idk how many of the creators were in the writing room, but maybe having all these different hands caused all the different episodes to feel sooooo wildly out of place next to each other. Especially if one left due to creative differences.
I think u saying that u were hanging out with your aunt is reassuring to me as an aunt. My only nibling is 13 and we still go do fun things but I hope he never thinks he's too cool to hang with me 😊
Great analysis my guy you've just earned a new subscriber. An for the record I'd rather die than watch this minstrel show!!!
Glad I’ve found your channel!!!! I subscribed. You have a soothing voice and I enjoyed your commentary. Can’t wait to see you shine!
Subscribed! Love being early to future big creators.
Thank you, so much!!! Doing my best! 🔥🔥
In the original series finale Florida Evans did not get married again instead, she moved in with her daughter and daughters husband to the south side of Chicago into the same building as her best friend and neighbor Willona Woods
Well said. Thank you for intelligently expressing my disdain and disgust!
More motivation to keep writing, illustrating and animating "Unschool Discoveries" creating stories, books and videos to build positive representation for our kids. What we all watch matters. It is what fills our head space and motivates or depresses us. LOL you said magical wizard movie b/c a magical wizard / mythical adventure for BIPOC is a project I am working on.
There used to be an incredibly racist show on fox called Bordertown about a man who could possibly be the son of Archie Bunker, living in a town that borders Mexico. In a nutshell, it’s a show made for blue collar racist conservatives and how they see everyone who is not a white male. The show only ran for 1 season, 13 episodes.
Guess who was an executive producer? 😒😒😒
Seth again?... I am surprised by so many liberals working on entertainment, and yet they are the ones producing the most racist things ever.
Netflix does what Netflix does best
Yo this was an amazing and insightful commentary, I had not viewed the cartoon,thank you I wont.😮.
I appreciate your sacrifice because I be damned if I ever click to watch that show. I'm subscribing!
A drug dealing baby is NOT edgy. It’s disgusting. The animation style is probably it’s only saving grace… if you can give it any grace at all.
The only thing I liked about it was the art style.
I literally never watched good times before but even I will not stand for this. it defeats the purpose of the original show
A bad black version of Family Guy 😩😩
Regardless of what anyone thinks about him these days, at least when Bill Cosby created Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids it was positive images of the community that most of us can relate to. If anything is to be learned about this god awful Good Times Reboot it's that we need to have more control over our own images.We stop outsourcing stories to these vultures who only want to feed our carcasses.
In a Mechwarrior tabletop campaign, I was told directly by the Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission to stop using the television show Family Guy for the purpose of interrogating and torturing prisoners of war. So I'm quite sure that Seth McFarlane was the one that fucked this shit up.
Solid video bro! Subbed
My mom said my dad loved Good Times. I wound up watching it with her and we'd sometimes do it in memory of him. Sometimes I do it in memory of them both now.
I feel the "reboot" is not only disrespectful to the original, but it's so blatantly stereotypical racist it makes me sick to my stomach. They spit on so many lessons that the original taught ya. I'll just keep watching the original. ❤
We dun got disrespected 🙎🏾♂️🤣
James Evans was removed from original show for..yep creative difference. This show is satire ffs 😅
It's just baffling that none of the people involved saw the backlash coming. If they wanted to do stereotypical satire they could have used a show that wasn't one of the big iconic milestones for representation. Every minority group has some media that holds importance in this way, showcasing them beyond stereotypes at a time when they were not portrayed properly, so it just comes off extremely obviously offensive to take a show like that and try and turn it into the complete opposite. I just don't get what anyone involved could have been thinking with this.
Drug dealing baby? 🤦🏽 That’s the thing about racism… It’s been going on for so long that ALL of the jokes are tired and played out. Punching down never seems to take much creative effort.
I’m 20 so obviously have no idea abt the good times lore but hearin u say that the show ended with everyone ended up being happy n successful I just feel dumb n disappointed that I watched it now knowing that the cartoon is cannon tied to the sitcom lol like damn we really ended up BACK in the projects after all that lmao
they cancelled inside job and brought us this crap smh.
AND EVERYONE OF THOSE “ BLACK “ CELEBRITIES who signed on to apply their voices…
Guests and the Main Characters, Should Be ASHAMED of themselves !
Talk about RACISM ! And I don’t know HOW IN THE WORLD ANYBODY looked at this and said,
“ I want to be a part of this.
BLACK PEOPLES ! BLACK PEOPLES ! BLACK PEOPLES !
It's rasict and nobody saying it
I've been listening to a lot of Kendrick Lamar lately, so it was almost a jumpscare to hear the opening to U
Thank you for your service.
"I'm doing my part!" 😬😎
You are right,. I could not get past 3 episodes / I was done when I saw the Girl riding down a river of blood on a giant tampon
When is Hollyweird going to learn that Seth MacFarlane and race don't mix?
He is an elite liberal... He is Hollywood royalty, he ain't not going to stop getting work.
Ah man I gotta go back down memory lane on TVLand, doubt it's still channel 51 😂
All in the Family
Sanford & Son
Good Times
Sanford & Son was my jam! Idk why but I was into that show more than any other from that time.
YO Bruh Hab Oh! Stop saying that there's a connection between the 1970s sitcom and this garbage! I appreciate you taking "one for the team" by watching the episodes. This is "Bamboozled" in animation! I see you've done some viewing of the 70 sitcom and mention a good brief synopsis which is good but you could've taken the dive just a little deeper. The late Esther Rolle(Florida Evans) fought tooth and nail to have a two-parent household in the Good Times series and won which is why we had the great John Amos(James Evans Sr.) on the set! Two events in particular spelled the beginning of the end for Good Times. The first was J.J. (Jimmie Walker) became the "breakout star" of the 70s series, and the writers started dumbing his character down further and taking the focus away from the family dynamic, much to disdain of Rolle and Amos who protested this during the run of the series. The second was John Amos wanted more money and other demands for his role and Norman Lear wouldn't give it to him. Rather than going to the bargaining table, they just(as your "spoiler alert" puts it) killed off his character at his Mississippi job, which by the way gives us the iconic "Damn, Damn, Damn" quote which was actually what Rolle felt in killing off the two-parent household she insisted in the series! After Amos' departure, they tried to patch up the sinking ship the best they could but at least in the end, the made it out of Cabrini Green! Good Times and later The Jeffersons were high points in our lives, on screen and otherwise and to have narrative be damned in one animation series and isn't kinda ironic that we've just celebrated the 50th anniversary of the original series!?
Hey, thanks for watching the video and commenting. I wanted to address some of your points since you took the time to write this whole thing out.
Bamboozled - I wouldn't even compare it to that film. FD Signifier did a brilliant deep dive into that movie, it's purpose and meaning --- I'd highly recommend you check it out, I think you'll enjoy it.
The Connection - While there isn't much written information out on this show right now, there are direct references to specific characters. The show is 4 generations removed from the original family with James being mentioned specifically during a pool game. Both Bernadette Stanis and Jimmie Walker also have small cameos, one episode each.
History - As I mentioned in the video, this wasn't a deep dive retrospective of the original series. However, I am very well aware of its origins and a few other tidbits. Though, I didn't know that John Amos wanted more money, it's unfortunate that they couldn't reach a deal. I'll definitely look more into that!
Anniversary/Legacy - It does make me wonder about Norman Lear's involvement with this animated series, which I want to do more research on. I just can't fathom him being okay with any of this, unless he was duped. I'm sure the answers will lay with Carl Jones' departure, for sure.
Stand for something or fall for anything.
I turned it off after ten minutes. That taxi scene, DONE!!
my fav Black sitcom is Martin 💯
Wazzzzzzzup! Martin is definitely a classic!
And much more funnier than that garbage reboot
I just saw the trailer and my jaw dropped I can’t believe all of these dignified black ppl would even agree to be apart of this bs
I always liked and still enjoy The Jeffersons more. Huey P. Newton pressed Norman Lear to do a positive show with Black people.
You explained the original Good Times very well. I grew up watching that show to some extent. I had mixed feelings about it towards the latter seasons, but I fail to see how this animated series… well, smh.🙄😡
Not sure if you mentioned it, but James died in Good Times because he was tired of the shucking and jiving of JJ and wanted them to showcase the talents of the other children and he also wanted his character to have a job and a few other humanizing things.
My favorite black sitcom is Fresh Prince of Bel Air or my wife and kids
I love me some FP but My Wife and Kids doesn't get the love it deserves. That's a classic!
When you see Seth McFarlane on a project using black stories... Its gonna get offensive.
This is 100% the fault of the Netflix executives. They ordered a Seth MacFarlane cartoon and that's what they got. It was never going to be an appropriate or justified use of the source material.
I like the show Atlanta! But I need to check out the show you brought up. Sounds really good!
The Evans Family isn't even in the hood, as of the original show's series finale.
This shows describes the current times we are in. Men and Women of today are not like the older generation of Men and Women. It's very fitting for everything going on with today's generation.
The real good times taught me no matter what you face God can make it happen and as a family you can push your children to get through and be someone in life and be successful and even though some families fathers aren’t there there are still great parents so trust in God and allow him to bless you and your children
It does become more palpable in the latter episodes. It's still terrible. Netflix should be spanked.
But why did we let Seth McFarlane anywhere near this? We should know better.
Cause of nostalgia as a 90's kid, Family Matters, that was my favorite watch during TGIF block on ABC.
But Right after that the The Wayans Bros, losing by a very slim margin
Probably will never partake in the this "Good Times" remake, also it more than likely would have slide under the reader if the didn't associate it with the old show.
YES! That TGIF Block had some gems on it. I was big on Family Matters too. I didn't realize it when I was a kid but they basically turned it into a sci-fi show once they like Steve Urkel have full reign.
And, I agree, I think if this wasn't associated with the Good Times name, people probably wouldn't be as mad but still perturbed.
Steph basically said he won’t watch with his kids😬