So I watched Good Times on Netflix...
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Hey everyone, let me clarify that this video is in no way meant to shame, harm, disrespect people involved with the show. Especially the actors who I can empathize with since I auditioned for this project myself, and we are only hired to read lines and not create the shows we work on. This is meant to be an objective review of what I saw in the show and my interpretation of the meaning behind it.
Also to my confusion about the tampons episode, I honestly forgot all about Pads and thats why I was trippin I think I mixed them both up in my head while talking, so yeah thats why I was confused my bad.
If you enjoyed this full review, be sure to like/comment/share this video for the algorithm thanks.
The "tampon means your fast" is a very, very old school trope that some mothers did believe. In the years the original show aired. The rest of your description is just disgusting.
Great review of the show. I watched all the episodes and you made some key points on parts that stuck out, not in good ways. It made me think of a black version of Southpark/ The PJs. Southpark because of the racists stereotype situations and the PJs because it was centered in the Projects.
Unfortunately, yes there are black women who get BBLs... The whole show was worse than I thought it could be. Thanks and sorry for suffering through it. Saddest thing to the show is the Evans family having ignorant parents and 3 problem kids.
@@bklyniceis1 Yes, a very old trope indeed! Also you could tell a man wrote this. As a woman, I don’t know know anyone who starts using tampons when they first get their period. Almost always you start with pads then use tampons once you’re older, just because tampons are harder for children to use.
@@TT_09 3 of the writers on the show are women and that episode was written by one of them.
This show is what Uncle Ruckus from "The Boondocks" was approached by a network to create what HE thinks Good Times should have been.
Lol if ruckus wrote the boondocks
It's basically Norman Lear original vision for Good Times
Thank you my brother for suffering through the trauma of watching this train wreck so the rest of us didn't have to. Not all heroes wear capes.
I do what I can lol
@@JDWitherspoon your a hero for that
This show was basically a pirated tasteless version of the pjs with good timws slapped on it.
Exactly what the fuck I said
YES
Basically
100% spot on, it's a low-brow PJs with some Bebe's Kids thrown in
Idk wut the PJs is but my mom used to like that old show Good Times the intro
I'm sorry, but Parody isn't satire. Satire is intelligent and points out societal flaws with humor. Parody is embellishment and mockery. Boondock is satire. South Park is usually satire. Family guy is parody. I've never seen Seth McFarland successfully write a satire. This Good Times netflix show is parody. But they're talking about it like it was suppose to be satire. It isn't intelligent enough to be satire.
Thank you
“These jokes are unnecessary” is a very kind way of putting it.
How can we get this show canceled- I can't believe it so disgusting. This is evil
don't watch it ig
King of the Hill is the epitome of satirical animation imo. A good times animation should’ve been something that felt more like that show than a Seth production
What’s even more offensive is that the family never made it out from the projects after ALL these generations of trying to get out 😩
Flood my comment throughout your community best way possibly effective. No mo talk ~ Willie Dee. Peace.
30:15 just want to shed light on women not letting girls use tampons. Some look at it like you are sticking something in there and it's kind of like loosing your virginity. Also the first period is a sign a girls hormones are kicking in and she could be fertile. So in general there is a constant shame for black girls around this age. Everything you do could be looked at as being fast and your parents, especially your mom, is paranoid about you being fast. For example, I would be shamed for taking a nap and mom would ask if I was pregnant because I took one smfh.
Or wearing red anything or trying make up or dressing up or wearing shorts even when it's hot or hanging with older kids or boys or your body developing breasts butt or thighs
I threw up on a period once and my mom thought I was pregnant. It's ridiculous!
As a regular guy... I am so sorry.
30:00 as a black woman, this absolutely happens. And I'm not trying to be too graphic, but my mother initially wouldn't let me use tampons either. It was related to being "fast" or "sexually active" and it's mostly from super religious parents/grandparents.
There was a girl in middle school who had that problem, leaking everywhere, and she was bullied for it. I mean the entire chair she sat on was covered. And I don't know her personally or what her home life was like, but that shit really does happen. Thank God we were at an all girls school because the boys would've been RELENTLESS. Girls, we kinda understand leakage and everything, but boys would've roasted her to the ends of the earth.
That's my two-cents, but its absolutely something that young black women deal with when it comes to periods and period products.
I'll put the writers on blast.
Kevin Townsley: White. Prev. Credits-Space Junk, Let's Get Physical, The Chicago Code, Lie to Me.
Rashida Olayiwola: Black. Previous credits-The Syd + TP Show, South Side, Sherman's Showcase. Should've stuck to 'S' shows. Voices Lisa, the beauty shop owner.
Devon Shepard: Black. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, MADtv, Everybody Hates Chris, Weeds, The Ms. Pat Show.
Alyson Fouse: Black. Black Jesus, The Ms. Pat Show, Everybody Hates Chris, The Wanda Sykes Show, 'Til Death
Brian Ashburn: White. Young Love, I Feel Bad, A.P. Bio. Wrote episode 3 (the period episode) and episode 8 (the superhero episode). There were 3 Black women on staff. Why was he given the period episode to write?
Joshua Krist: undetermined. Legends of Chamberlain Heights, My Wife and Kids, Dawson's Creek.
Eric Lev: likely Black. The Game, One on One, My Wife and Kids, Legends of Chamberlain Heights.
Jaydi Samuels Kuba (Story Editor): White. Family Guy, The Beachbuds, The Jellies!, Salem. Otherwise, Seth MacFarlane's assistant on Dads, The Cleveland Show, Ted/Ted 2, A Million Ways to Die in the West, American Dad! [Given that there were Black writers with more sizeable sitcom writing experience on staff, this Story Editor role is troublesome.]
Renada Shepard: Black. Young Love, Act Your Age, Connecting..., Born Again Virgin.
Thank you
Im curious if the black writers are African or Caribbean
@@SE-gs6gdi spotted one of Nigerian descent from the name. Olayiwola is definitely a Yoruba name.
R. Shepard is Hispanic adopted by a African American family it’s reported.
They’re definitely African/Carribean. This is on brand for how they view American black people
I told Yvette Nicole Brown that I hope the paycheck was worth it after I watched 5 episodes and she blocked me 😶
I would really like to sit down with actors on the show and get their honest opinions. But I know that they would rather work than be black balled and as someone who’s spoken up in the past I get it, but sometimes u just gotta stand up against this stuff.
I was super surprised she was on the billing for this show. There are others that I kinda understand as this wasn't the first time they done stuff like this.
But with her I was surprised.
@Thisisjustname She played stereotypes of Nickelodeon for years. I honestly think she deserves not to be typecasted.
Dayum 😭😂. I really feel like her character & the daughter are thee redeeming characters of thee show.. 😭
@@Thisisjustnamewhich we’re you not surprised by
I was wondering how you were able to do such a good John Witherspoon impersonation then I looked at your name.... I feel slow now lmao
Lol u good it’s just something I grew up with
Ooooooohhhhhh! 🤦🏾♀️
As a white person, I knew from the moment I saw the trailer that this show was going to be some racist Black Family Guy BS. I mean, Seth MacFarlane's name is attached to it, and after hearing your full review on this so called "reboot," my suspicions have been confirmed.
Same
Eric Monte who wrote and directed the film ‘Cooley High’ created Good Times based on his life in the Cabrini Green projects in Chicago (the setting of the original show) and Norman Lear ( being the established Name) got the credit.
Eric Monte also created The Jeffersons and What’s Happening tv shows along with actor Michael Evans (who played Lionel Jefferson and gave his real name to the Michael character on Good Times) but Norman Lear took the credit for all of it. Eric Monte was blackballed by Hollywood for suing for his rights and still dislikes Norman Lear.
He also is the one who suggested Redd Foxx for the role in Sanford and Son but Norman Lear gets all the credit. Smh
Brother, ain't no mo talk like @williedeelive say. Flood my comment throughout your community best way possibly effective. Peace.
"Cooley High" was also the basis for "What's Happening!"
Black people weren't allowed in certain pools back in the day
That is where the stereotype came from.
They should have just went on ahead and called it hood times
Or O'block
The Parappa beanie is mint 👌
I had to represent
9:53 I agree!! Let Netflix, Seth McFarlane, Steph Curry and Ranada Shepard defend the dish they cooked, not the actors who were the ingredients.
Absolutely! The creators are the real culprits of this bs.
The actors are just doing their jobs. Those jokers are the ones that made a shutty product.
We all know Seth McFarlane is a RACIST Bostonian Irishman who has a very VERY low opinion of black people based on how we are portrayed in his other shows Family Guy, American Dad, and The Cleaveland Show which is the precursor to this offensive trash. I never found any of those shows as very funny and in fact often stopped watching when they would treat into the territory of making unapologetically offensive remarks about black people. But these shows aren't even the beginning South Park has been doing it for YEARS causing the late Isaac Hayes to leave the cast due to frustration.
Wrong. The actors should’ve took some leadership and said no to this trash.
@@jordanserpathey ate employees. Asides from walking away am not sure they have that much influence.
It's like a 2024 version of Bebe's kids with bad jokes and more stereotypes
I'd say that's insulting to Robin but this is if he didn't try.
And Steph Curry's light bright and almost white self produced it🤨 he's not in touch with REAL blackness at all 😘🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@Joecbg100It wouldn't be because Robin had nothing to do with that movie
Wasn’t Bebes kids based off a comedians standup routine tho??
@justwow2516 Yes. It was originally gonna be live-action, but Robin died before they could start production so they settled for an animated film.
the weird thing is some of the stuff in this show happened in the original, but they just ruined the message and made a mockery of it. james had hypertension, jj got blickied down when he was forced to join a gang, he worked at a chicken place, was an artist and made a painting of himself as a superhero named dynoman. but the original show taught and informed us about those topics. this show just makes fun of those issues and teaches viewers nothing. that and i don't know if they were trying to do cheap callbacks or were just copying the original show's homework.
and yeah i wouldn't be shocked if norman actually produced all of those shows and had a hand in their scripts. probably not because he wanted to make an original black show from scratch though. most popular black sitcoms were just spinoffs of white shows. the jeffersons was a spinoff off all in the family, good times was a spinoff of maude, and family matters was a spinoff of perfect strangers.
Norman Leer was the showrunner in modern parlance for Good Times, Jeffersons, Sanford & Sons etc. but Black Men like Eric Monte were the creative drivers behind these shows for obvious reasons.
Hold on you gotta remember some white shows were rip offs of black shows. Friends? you meant Living Single
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 Many sitcoms exist in the same universe as spin offs or sequel series ..a lot of of them are connected...due to guest stars or characters within different shows existing
Without HEARiNG any of the dialogue... The animation alone just gave me spidey sense red flags to steer clear from watching it.
So I did a little digging into the IMDB of this show. This stuff is actually really eye opening to why the show is so…bad.
**tl;dr the show creators literally make edgy racist shows for a living.**
The main writer for the episodes, Devon Shepard, is married to the show creator Ranada Shepard. The most notable show he was an Executive Producer on was Legends of Chamberlain Heights. It was a really edgy Comedy Central show from like 2016 that’s basically is this exact same humor. Full of egregious racial stereotypes of black people and left leaning people. It’s also (in my opinion) one of the ugliest shows I’ve ever seen in my life. Like it makes The Nutshack look like the Vatican.
Devon also seems to have brought several of the writers from that show onto this one, and they worked on all 10 episodes. Devon and Ranada to my knowledge are black (not that black people cant make content that’s racist towards their own race) but the writers they brought on from that show are indeed white. So make of that what you will, but the minimum is that for sure every single episode had at least 3 white people working on them as the writers.
To me that explains why the racist jokes are so…weirdly specifically racist. Like the “color people time” joke. Literally no black person makes that joke genuinely, but it does sound like something a really racist person who was told in the writers room to make the most edgy humor possible would write. It really feels like they were told to just regurgitate every single joke about black people they could come up with and decided to make the show.
That’s so interesting, and sad… These are the People of Color who get a “Seat at the Table?” Not all money is good money.
I believe every single thing you said is absolutely correct from what my sources told me. That’s wild for them to write this.
Thank you for the information. Adds some context to the making of this dumpster fire.
Legends of Chamberlain Heights also has an episode from 2016 that shows Kobe blow up in a helicopter. That was not a prediction, it was a foretelling.
Sounds about right. I got the vibe none of these jokes no matter if true or not were in good taste.
What is Seth McFarlane's deal with talking babies?
Sus
Seth is a weirdo. And a racist
The baby drug dealer.... It's so played out.
"There was a conservative alt-right White man trying to stop periods-"
Yeah, no. I'm done. I'm not even a staunch republican but holy shit when you can PREDICT the jokes, is there any point to sticking around. At this point it must overheat shitty writers' brains to NOT go for easy ass jokes like that and then demand to be seen as some sort of deep 'commentator'.
I'll stick with Smiling Friend....or since this is Black animated comedy, Boondocks and The PJs.
This essentially IS just a shitty version of The PJs with none of the charm, cool animation and the commentary that *MAKES SENSE*. Smokey was a better 'crack' joke because of how weird he was and even when he stopped using drugs, we find out no...he really is just that off the wall so they were able to keep the joke going without having him do drugs.
Yeah, just screw it.
Yeah this ain’t it thanks for your feedback
My sister always says she uses pads because girls who use tampons were fast. Pretty sure she heard it from an older woman lol
The TV show Dallas had an infamous cliffhanger about "Who Shot J.R." Even people who didn't watch the show were invested in that cliffhanger. That's what they were trying to do with "who shot jumior (jr)?" A lot of these attempts were from a GenX mind and still didn't land.
They're not jokes. They're Crackin' But Factin'. They really feel that way about Black folks.
As a black person that lives in chicago in the hood this show was so insulting and I hate the fact it was made with no consideration of how someone like me might feel being portrayed in this manner , my life , my family , and my community’s living situation isn’t a punchline of some trashy show it’s our life , I don’t appreciate this “representation” you can keep it loved the review keep up the good work great work I’m subscribed 😊
Brother, LA to Chi-Raq, Flood the streets with my comment; especially if they block my account.
The swimming stereotype comes from 1. Enslaved Africans weren't allowed to swim, just like they weren't allowed to read, because of escape and 2. the descendants of Enslaved Africans, not being allowed to swim in private or public pools (which their tax dollars were paying for btw). I got my first Red Cross swimming license when I was either 13 or 14. The Black kids I grew up w/knew how to swim. But many in my parents generation were highly discouraged from swimming bc of racists. And that slick still goes on now.
Also because of jumping from slave ships. Death Before Bondage but white people wouldn't understand that
i feel like this show might be what rich white people back in the day used to think (in their head) what the original was like..
you know how sometimes there's that type of white person who looks at like the most harmless things and refers to it as "violent ghetto music that's promoting drugs" and then the thing they're talking about is literally just something harmless like Sorry Miss Jackson by Outkast? (idk if you met those type of people, but i definitely have)
I think most white people horrible misunderstand the context and point of hiphop sadly
J.D. I just discovered you loved your Dad he was great man and comic genus. You was right on point with this review I grew up watching Good Times and to put that name to this garbage is crazy this is one of the reasons why black folks cant move forward because certain people keep putting out this propaganda about the way black folks live. I grew up in the projects in the 70's and 80's and while some stereotypical stuff happened there was a lot of positive more than people realize. The writers of this show should ashamed and embarrassed but because people have short attention spans unfortunately this will be forgotten. Keep up the good work love your perspective on the industry .
Thanks I appreciate this comment
FYI, that final scene, guaranteed, was written by someone of a much older age than the demographic they’re apparently looking for. It’s a reference to that old show, Dallas where J.R., the main character and villain, was shot at the end of one season. The headlines “who shot JR” were a huge thing at the time. Your dad might have remembered the show or headlines but you probably weren’t even born or were an infant at the time that was happening, and the relevance has long since expired. I’d bet that that episode was written by someone 50 or older.
Yes! And The Simpsons reference JD makes was a spoof of that. But it was a weird way to end the episode and series. I watched the first couple of episodes to try to “give it a chance”. YNB keeps telling people to watch all 10 like it will make sense but it does not. They are supposed to be coming for the systems not us, but the show does come for black people and hard. Whatever the point was is missed. Like this commentary says, anything that may have been funny or positive is lost in the mix of all the negative, unfunny aspects. I let the rest play in the background. I missed the chicken episode and only caught the end when Junior says he’s Mother Clucker and makes the chicken noise and was nope I do not need to play that back.
The last three episodes were "decent" but not enough to redeem the previous episodes.
Thanks for the review cuz for damn sure i wasn't about to watch it
Lol no problem
The old show meant it wholeheartedly, this show just meant it ironically!
i think the period=ho thing is that one misconception that's originated in Christian culture (it's also referenced in that movie Carrie, where she freaked out over her first period because her highly religious mom taught her the wrong ideas) where bleeding from the vagina is associated with losing your virginity.. because old fashioned Christians believe that all women bleed at their first time, and only their first time... no joke, in those times (when Carrie was made), women were even shunned for not bleeding on their first time because "oh i guess you already lost your virginity before marriage, huh?" now i want to add, i assume most modern day Christians do not believe this anymore.. but it definitely was a thing back in the day.. or at least, that's what was taught in my history class (and what i picked up on watching old movies)
They did this show all wrong and they should have taken it more seriously...like a MODERN FAMILY type format, a half hour comedy drama focusing on the next generation and bring back Jimmy walker, Bern Nadette Stanis and Ralph Carter
not a cartoon but live action
why not focus on the three different households of the 3 original Evans children, but not in the projects...we did that, you can still struggle and not be in the projects
maybe...
JJ is an succesful owner of a black owned comic book company living in a condo, JJ was the ladies man back in the day...maybe make him 3x's divorced and he's trying to mend a relationship with his kids
Thelma, is living in the suburbs of Chicago now. She's a widow now and her daughter and grandkids live with her, she lives in a nice house now because her husband (Keith) was a succesful football player and commentator in the NFL. She took care of Florida until the day she passed.
I know Michael wanted to be on the Supreme court, but I actually see Michael becoming a lawyer and activist staying in Chicago helping inner city youth of unjust crimes.
Florida and Willona stayed best friends until they both passed, Penny kinda turned into the nosy neighbor like her mother (and dating different men) and is pretty much at Thelmas house all the time (also playing the aunty role). I can actually see Thelma and penny becoming best friends (the new Florida and Willona)
This could have been done great and they fouled it up with a BS cartoon with the new family staying in the same damn apartment in the projects...singing with roaches and a drug dealing baby, REALLY???
I'm actually so sad rn because your ideas would've been fire and we didn't get it.
You’re a very good writer. It’s sad that a room full of people decided to do this racist shitshow instead of coming together and writing something with heart in it.
It could have still been a cartoon or animated... animation is a worthy and can be a great art form and you could do a lot....but they dont have mich vision either way
Congratulations on your channel. Your Dad brought so much love, light and laughter and i wish you all the success in your endeavors. Keep your integrity by all means. This review tells me that you already know when we're being made fun of, our struggles made light of, our people stereotyped into a monolith, being portrayed as dumb, shallow, lacking wherewithal and general common sense. I hate this show with the passion of a thousand suns. I can't support anyone who partook. The ancestors already took Steph out of play off contention😂. This type of imagery goes world wide. I hope people keep up the pressure. When the NAACP has to write a letter about how demeaning this is, it's worse than we think.
The line about the Ancestors and Stephs playoff contention was hilarious. Also thank you for the kind words
They would have been better off bringing the BOONDOCKS BACK
Looking at most of the shows today they’d prolly ruin it
They very well could have made a modern, funny GT that dealt with modern issues post-projects, with this new generation, White flight in the suburbs, over policing of Black children in schools, immigrants coming into their new neighborhood, etc.
That’s my thing, the writers not being displayed publicly is very telling
Dude, your J.B Smoove impression is on point. Thank you for watching this show so I didn't have to
Thanks for your honest commentary!! The show was a bad look to the classic!!
No problem
From the moment I saw the trailer, I said to myself some black person who doesn't know anything about growing up in the hood, or specifically the projects, wrote this shit.
I grew up in Sumner Housing in the 80/90s and that shit was bad, and this looked like a mockery of those of us who grew up in the projects.
Sorry, but I am going to blame the actors a little, you would never see Jewish or Muslim (including the black ones) actors doing shit like this about their people.
Watched your whole video and I'm subbed to you now.
the focus medication plot could have been a great episode to highlight how black neurodivergent students are treated differently than white neurodivergent students. but instead they spend the whole plotline joking about how meds make you smart. it’s disappointing
We are not interested in this animated mockery. If we all tune out, the numbers will show that we are not playing around.
The Simpsons got the "Who shot...?!?" Storyline from a popular show in the 80s called Dallas. The big cliffhanger episode was "Who Shot JR?!?".
Even the message of family sticking together no matter what, is a narrative I'm tired of.
Living in dysfunction jus because you were born into it.
That's why a lot of people are trauma filled and won't grow from these types of family dynamics.
The actors and producers who are complaining about people complaining, had thee option to not take the check. Get into that.
There is a 7 year old short video of YNB saying she will never take on black stereotype roles. Let’s just say it aged like necrotic tissue.
I'd like more long form reviews like this.
Let me know what you want me to review and I’ll make it happen on a podcast episode and then I’ll split it off into a separate video like this. The only other thing I’ve been watching lately is X-Men 97 and it’s amazing.
@@JDWitherspoon dude, X-men 97 has been great!....
That was my favorite cartoon as a kid and I was worried they were gonna botch it, but it's been awesome AF!...
I'd love to see an in depth review from you on it.
I know this is late, but I'm not seeing a post about swimming myth. So far it's supposed to have started around tying to keep us out of public pools.
To keep us out of shared pools, the started closing the public ones. Then the rumor pops up that we cant swim anyway.
Most of us aren't/cant get to the pools in whiter areas, plus dont want to be harrassed if we cant swim like an olympian.
After awhile, we started spreading it too.
Also, people of a certain complexion (not trying to get my comment suppressed) threw acid into pools that were desegregated.
Bunch of Stereotypes its a distraction from our true awareness
this comment sums up Boondocks' problem with BET
despite them living in those projects and needing maintenance that apartment was always clean on the show
Great review. I think you hit the nail on the head with the observation that the humor of the show is, just so mean. And, yes-I think only white racists would think the writing is hilarious. Your stamina and fortitude is amazing.
Straight on point. No mo talk. Flood my comment throughout your community best way possibly effective. Peace.
Bad times 😅
Flood My comment throughout your community best way possibly effective. No mo talk. ~Willie Dee. Peace.
When you had a question about the tampon episode. Yup some moms think tampons are a way for young black girls to be fast because they compare tampons to a phallus
Yea, couldn't make it past the 3rd episode...thanks for watching so that others don't have to.
No worries!
The only thing it has in common with the real Good Times is the title. I watched two episodes and gave up. This show *SUCKS.* 🤢🤮🤢🤮🖕🏽🖕🏽
You’re lucky you didn’t see the third episode. I had to tap out at that one.
You made it through the 2nd episode? You’re better than me
BRO it was terrible! I watched all 10 ep... and I'm all for petitioning to get that crap off Netflix feels like it set us back 30 years! A flock set tripping baby! Thats only a portion of it
Black again is like saying back again.
Yea just stupidly. Very stupidly
YOOOOO!!! J.D. great commentary!!!
Appreciate it!!
It's time to bring back shame. Unfortunately I couldn't even get through this for you, but I am done at the roach.
Netflix:
*drops Good Times 2024 trailer*
The internet:
*tears it to shreds for not respectfully representing the original*
Netflix:
"Ok. Maybe we should bleep the N-word, just in case. Yeah. I'm sure that'll fix it...🧐"
🤦🏿♂️ 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ 🤦🏿♂️ 🤦🏿♂️ 🤦🏿♂️ 🤷🏿♂️
After the “Period” episode, I was DONE! Worse show ever created. 👎🏾
Honestly, why is Netflix still getting your money? Truthfully..
Norman Lear Stole the Jefferson from Eric Monte (Who created the Characters for All in the family George, Louise , and Lionel)
I haven't watched it. I have no interest in watching it.
Thank you J.D. for taking one for the team lol
I believe you have to understand the historic value of the original Good Times to truly understand how bad this show really is one at the end of Good Times everyone made it out of the projects so how did they get back in the projects second the father was a strong figure and for the first time in television history a black family had a father thanks to Esther Rolle also Norman Lear did not make or create good times good times was created by Eric Monte and Michael Evans Norman Lear stole Good Times good times was about a family that held onto his family values despite living in the projects this show has no family values the son is a drug dealer in the original good times no matter how much money was offered the mother would never sell out the mother in this show sold out for position the head of the projects this show the devalues everything the original cast had to fight for once again erasing our history
Basically this show I a black ren and stimpy. This show had absurdly jokes just like this from what it sounds like
I’m not surprised.
Thank you for the video.
You really got to see it early? You poor soul. They should've let Carl Jones cook.
Oh no, I didn’t see it early. I watched it when it dropped just like you all it came out last Friday. I just spent my weekend watching it passively and listening to all the weird things that they showcased.
I appreciate and feel bad that you had to watch the whole entirely of the series so you give a review bc after that trailer I would of been done 😂 love the video tho keep it up JD💯
lol thank you I genuinely got exhausted going back over this show by the time I talked about episode 8 if u noticed but yeah I’m glad I finished this review for yall
This is the best review that I have seen of anything. You even do reenactments, like running around the chair. Thank you, and sorry that you had to take the bullet and watch the show for us. New subscriber.
I appreciate you thanks
It's a modern-day minstrel show.
Dude I totally enjoyed this talk. This show was maddening, but I'm glad it brought you the thoughts that you've shared here. You got this like and sub for sure! Long live Big John! We love him.
It just doesn't make sense how many bad decisions were allowed in this production. I feel you about not directing hate towards the cast, but EVERYONE here should have refused to do this. It reminds me of the horrible cartoon version of Friday. I can't believe they did that one either. I can dig how you broke it down. That kept my rage in check.
Nothing surprises me in media anymore. Especially since the other Netflix travesty Cuties. Never forget that movie exists. They burn money on the poorest quality decisions, but this is just "playing in our faces". Seth, Steph and anyone from the office to the booth should be ashamed to be attached to this nonsense! Bless up, big homie!
The family dosent have a message of sticking together because the dad keep throwing the baby out the house!
It's ashamed that this is still happening in Hollywood. I think most of us have a good idea of who was in that writers room and why people were removed. Seth Macfarlands involvement tells me everything I need to know.
Aside from the irony of trashing shows you were almost on, I think the studio was banking on McFarlanes history with Norman Lear riffs like Family Guy which in itself is a spoof of All In The Family. What's sad, is the fact that they could have done the same thing and frame it as a spoof, which it honestly is. The trouble overall being, these botched black stereotypes were already proven not to work with Cleveland Show but they copied the format anyway.
the cartoon idea was interesting. However after I've seen how tasteless and "white" this show was, i feel it's very disrespectful. The writing is terrible. It's coming from a completely wrong perspective
This was definitely targeted to the white audience
Yes, but it doesn't stop there because much of the whole world watches Netflix.
@@rugr82day Agreed, which is a shame. One of America’s biggest exports is racism. The world sees what we put out.
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Had a feeling that people would compare this to bebes kids and from what I’ve gathered in so far people consider bebes kids a classic even though it is rife with stereotypes, so are stereotypes only good if they’re done correctly or if people find them amusing?? Anyway, this reboot does look terrible no matter what it’s visually unappealing and the jokes look like they fall really flat, and Seth MacFarlane is the most arrogant piece of shit in Hollywood thinking that just because his name is attached to some thing that every idea that he comes up with will be a success
Tampons do help with periods. But because they go into the vagina(i know graphics but) people associate them with losing your virginity and having sex because the hymn maybe broken, hence she made her a pad instead because they are worn externally. Thats basically the stereotype amongst women when it comes to starting with tampons. Its not true but some people believe it. Also the mom was warning her about getting your first period because that means you can get pregnant from that point on but she didnt want her daughter to have sex and get pregnant at 13. So thats the story with episode number 3.
😮 It might not have been that bad, if wasn't attached to an Iconic series!
I haven’t watched the show but have listened to a few reactions. I appreciate your longer look at it as it provides more context for some of the other criticisms I’ve heard. It sounds like there were some interesting topics to explore (gentrification, in-group monitoring…) but everything used to explore them didn’t deliver on the potential: trampling down instead of lifting up.
Definitely some voice actors I’m familiar with and enjoy, but not sure how they got involved. Appreciated your perspective on that though, and focusing that these choices were made primarily in the writers’ room.
It’s a shame to have it under the banner of Good Times. It would have been interesting to hear those development meetings. How was it pitched originally? Who was in the room? Did it change dramatically through production (particularly writing) or was this the initial intent?
Anyways, thanks again for your thoughts.
I haven't seen the show and don't plan to (a drug dealing baby...why?) but some of the stuff you said about periods - yeah, it's true (not absolutely but for a lot of girls, yeah) - it's not just okay now your body is doing this other thing, it's a whole lot of socially weighted things; such as, the tampons bad argument (and not just because of those toxic shock warnings on the labels but because it's inserted and a pad is not), the way your body is now perceived as the opposite of what was young and innocent in you (for a lot it's when the relationship between mother and daughter changes, it's when they introduce the 'danger' your body now poses because, yes, now you can get pregnant and some mothers (more than mothers but I'm emphasizing mothers because they went through it too) do frame it that way and you feel like you're doing something wrong though you haven't), the accidents in public places (ugh, yeah) and I believe there is something called a free bleeding movement that might resonate with an uber-radical character like the one you described. I mean, I can't speak to the presentation on the show...but these issues do exist in the space between girlhood and womanhood. That's actually interesting that they attempted to tackle that though not if they just made a gross joke of it. Only posted this long ass comments cause you seemed confused on this point and open to a woman's pov.
I think instead of rebooting “good time” they could’ve done something new for a black cartoon.
Like it can be about 4 teenagers from semi different background attending a private or boarding school with majority of white students.
It can cover the topics of
- sexism against black woman
-racism
-colorism
-homophobia
-TOXIC key word TOXIC masculinity
-generational trauma.
And so on. But hey I’m just a 15 yr old black girl and not a professional writer or director yet. So what do I know
I was sad to hear Cree Summer VA’s in this. I loved her as Susie and Number 5.
I'm 28 but I used to watch the hell out of Good Times with my grandpa. I didn't even know this project existed.
This was a great synopsis and review. Thank you for your insight; I respect your perspective and it also allowed me to have an understanding of how people of color have been portrayed. Peace & light ✌🏾
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Norman Lear should have told them they left the ghetto on the very last episode called at the end of the rainbow, which behooves me as to why they put them back where they were
That's the part that's so confusing to everyone. Why are they back in the projects?
i was 44 mins in before i realized who i was even watching lmfao ...subbed
It reminds me of another short-lived MacFarlane series, Border Town, which portrayed a pretty grossly stereotypical depiction of Mexicans Mexican-Americans.
I cancelled my Netflix subscription over this and I urge everyone to to do the same.
I watched the first two episodes. You are not lying. A lot of black hate in these.