Good Times 2024: How to (Not) Make a Satirical Comedy
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
- So Netflix decided to reboot the classic sitcom Good Times into a raunchy adult animated show. Similar to the likes of Big Mouth. On top of that, it tries to also be a social satire.
This video is a breakdown of how it fails on multiple levels and how another show puts it to shame.
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Uncle Ruckus I swear made the Good Times reboot as a scheme between him and BET, dammit.
Lmfao
Bet does stand for black evil television.. you might be onto something
A black talking, drug dealing baby definitely sounds like an unironic idea of Uncle Ruckus ngl.
*Organ kicks in* "Well well well..."
"conservative views"
ohhhh boy wait till he finds out the KKK are still in the same political side as allways, for someone going on about history he sure just skips over the fact of how religious and bigoted nearly everyone was, even the hippies. if anything the conservatives would tell black people to screw off their land while the dems would blast them and then plant a baggie or 2 on the corpse like the old police did
This Good Times deboot looks more like the fever dream of someone who grew up watching The PJs and thought that Good Times was in the same universe.
Finally someone else who knows about the PJs
The PJs is actually decent though, good times is just a bad modern generation humor bait that desperately tries to make the audience relate to it but fails horrendously.
Exactly, The show feels like it is written by someone who thought the PJs was funny, but didn't actually have the experiences of what happens in the PJs to be able to replicate the humor with any tact or wit, so it just sounds like rich (racist) person mocking poverty and black stereotypes.
Pj's.......projects
The PJs is a fucking great show.
They canceled Inside Job for this.
Inside job was the truth. I guess they were exposing too much so I got canceled 😢
I mean not really. That was simply Netflix doing another Netflix moment.
Yeah I know I’m just maulding that they cancelled a show I like and made this slop
Netflix canceled a good show? I'm 100% totally shocked.
That also sucked so they basically traded cat shit for dog shit
What makes the boondocks animation so well made is that they hired a Korean studio to animate it, giving it that classic 2000’s anime style
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Destiny calls
Dont deny your destiny
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@@naolidecomisso4108 nice try it was blackjack without gambling I PLAY FOR FUN
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As someone who is black and watched the original Good Times with my parents at times, this "reboot" is nothing like the original. The original's message was "hey, we may be in a tough situation and struggling right now, but someday, we will overcome our current problems and thrive in the future." It painted a optimistic yet realistic look at how your typical black inner-city families would look like, hence why it was relatable at the time, and still relatable today.
The "reboot" though, is like a writer who is not familiar with black culture watched the news and looked at social media to see how the black community would operate and then run with it. Very heavy with the stereotypes, surface-level pandering, and nothing like the original show (I saw that Seth MacFarlane was one of the main writers of this show and now it's all starting to make sense). In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this started out as an original project but only got greenlit after it was named after an established property (I feel this way about Velma as well). Studios are too scared to invest in original projects anymore and are just retrofitting those projects as "reboots" of older established shows, even though they are nothing alike.
Animation-wise, it's very choppy and stiff. As an animator/creative assistant myself, I'm trained to have an eye on what "good" animation should look like. The art style is not animation-friendly, which would explain why it's so stiff. They had to cut corners to keep the art style consistent. When you have to do that, then the art style is too detailed for animation, the quality will suffer. 1:43 is a perfect example. The duo shot and the walk cycles. Zero in-betweens, just snapping into two of the same poses, obvious repeating frames, etc. That is just very amateurish "animation". The backgrounds and characters don't even look like they belong together. Choppy animation can be done correctly and used effectively (Into the Spiderverse, claymation, etc) but this looks lazy.
4:57 Tom didn't do that. It was his physical body, but he was possessed by Stinkmeiner (?). That's why his face contorted.
Thats true lol. It was more of a breakdown of why the scene is so funny.
Plus we don't really know why he did that until we figure out later in the episode that he's possessed.
You found out in the beginning that he’s possessed by Stinkmeiner tho.
@@NeverKnewMyFather yes. My statement was in regards to him saying look at this guy (Tom) now look at this out of character action he does.
@@michaelthecinefile917 even then, you very clearly misrepresented that scene to fit your narrative, if anything, without the context of what’s going on, that scene has just as much substance has any seen in the show your critiquing
@@Yung.pepto.bismolyour opinion stinks
I'm a fan of three things. Fantasy, Mythology, and Dancehall. If you were to ask me to write a show about black people, it would involve some African mythologies and spiritualities. I'll have black mystics and shamans. It'd be set in the Carribean, and would involve Dancehall music. If anyone wants to steal my idea, go ahead. Even if it flops, it'd be a lot more respectable than this bullshit.
It would be incredible to see something like that get made 🔥
@@michaelthecinefile917 The world is full of untapped material, but all people wanna do is recycle old tropes and cliches. And that is EXACTLY what this new Goodtimes is.
A couple years ago, I've found out that Friday (with Ice Cube) got a cartoon, and it was FAR from politically correct. But I thought it was hilarious. This good times "reboot" is a like a bad version of the Friday cartoon, but worse, with added politics.
Frankly, I'd like to see a black show that DOESN'T focus on the ghetto, racism, or "The Struggle". It's like people treat these things as the defining characteristics of black culture, as if black culture CAN'T BE ANYTHING BEYOND THESE THINGS.
As someone who enjoys mythology, fantasy, and magic, I'd want to see black people be included in the fantasy genre, in a fantasy world based around actual African mythologies, practicing magic and spiritualities based on African and Carribean cultures, and just being an overall positive, thought-provoking, and well written story. And we can include as much sex appeal as we want. Spirituality doesn't have to be family friendly (it actually isn't).
If we truly care about black representation, this is the sort of story we should want.
@@michaelthecinefile917 Sorry for the rant, but I'm sick of the push for black and latino representation when the end result is either degenerate stereotypical bullshit like this, or the homogenous DEI trash that just exists to create division. I mean, no one has the right to preach if this is the extent of what they can create.
There’s a video game that came out recently called Tales of Kenzera: Zau, I heard that has a lot of African mythology in it
@@toonboy2041 This looks like a step in the right direction.
The Goodt Times Reboot produced by Uncle Ruckus
Looks like the same people who made that bored ape yacht club NFT cartoon in terms of the jerky movement :/
Exactly my thoughts. Especially the over emphasis on their mouths. I feel like I'll get gingivitis just looking at them.
Bro my first thought when looking at it. Looks like the budget for 2 fps
I'm 13 and love watching and listening to old stuff especially good times so sad the remade it.
I also like boondocks one of my favorites
Keep on keeping on little dude! ✌️
@@malegria9641 I’m a girl but hey I like the little dude thanks for the support
NEVER disrespect the PJ's by comparing it to this hot garbage.
Netflix make some horryble shit like this, and then they are surprised when people don't like it. They should just make some good shit like Inside Job! NOT ANOTHER SEASON OF BIG MOUNTH
F is for Family was good too
Why did people like inside job so much? The humor was god awful and spoiled the ending for breaking bad for me, an actual good show that I had not watched at the time.
@@EzioZWas being the key word
The original show ended a couple of years before I was born, but I did watch reruns of in the 80s and 90s. The first couple of seasons with John Amos was best. Esther and John were adamant of not perpetuating negative black stereotypes, hence why we had John in the first place. The show was just about a family and their struggles, while not falling into the bad parts like gangs for instance. There was an episode where Michael wanted to join a gang due to something that happened. Of course the issue resolved itself, but it was showing that not all black people act ghetto or are hustlers (or condone it) and all that stuff. Florida and James' characters were hardworking and provided the best for their children while trying to instill moral values. They even focused on the importance of education so that the kids would have a better chance and opportunities than they did. This reboot seems to be a slap in the face to everything the original series was trying to portray initially.
The vast majority of black people don't condone the lifestyles and thuggishness of what you see in the media. But it sells, especially to people who aren't black. No one wants to see an ordinary black guy drive to and from his everyday job in a stock Toyota Camry. He's about as invisible as an F-35. But as soon as some joker covers himself in gold, thumps bass out of his trunk, and becomes a meme... all the cameras start recording. A camera can only record 25% of what's around at best.
Exactly. I saw this show in my Netflix recommendations and wondered if it was related to the original. Where's lanky JJ and his signature hat, I thought. So it IS related, but who is this show for? I'm 44 and watched reruns of Good Times in the 80s so for sure, the original audience are outside target age demographic for this animation. Good Times and a lot of other minority driven shows of that period were groundbreaking because they offered a truer perspective on 'minority living' to a public that had a tainted or negative perception of them. This is another case where the creators could have claimed it to be an original series then sometime down the line admit it was inspired or related, but they didn't want to go with that angle. I'm tired of 'adult animation' anyway, so I'll leave it at that. No hate watching or following Good Times for me.
The Good Times reboot had one thing going for it: the art style. I honestly love the way it looks. Stylistically, in a still frame, I really, unironically like the art style. Everything else though? Like watching a Microsoft PowerPoint presentation on crack
The choppy animation really isn't that bad in my opinion. Gives off Spider-Verse vibes, but it does seem like this is a "LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUR POWER" type situation
@@hairlessgrizzly559the only reason choppy animation is good in fast paced movies, is because it makes the actions feel more quick, and it also accommodates CGI.
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Damn I thought I was the only one XD
i think the problem most people have with it is that its going on top of GOD AWFUL character designs
The only compliment I can give this show is that it's comedic timing is actually really good... It just sucks the "comedy" flat out sucks.
To this day I still prefer boondocks
5:05 i feel like its important to note that in this scene tom was possesed by stinkmeaner, AKA a hater so diabolical that he rivals dio
4:59 Bro was having a seizure💀
skull emoji
The animation alone from the reboot is just mind boggling that it was allowed to look like that. It's not even minimal. It's just BAD.
And the thing with Meat is his designs are purposely horrific but the animation is so fluid and detailed, you can decide if it's beautiful for embracing the craft or uncomfortable for.... embracing the craft.
The designs in this are exaggerated but bro, the movements. Why are they so janky? It's not even 2000s era Flash toon janky. It's like it's actually lagging.
And maybe this is me being an adult woman but....what the fuck is up with the period obsessions? And I don't get the commentary they were trying to give. It's like... I'm Black. You know what happened when it happened? My mom got me some pads and we moved on. The obsession is creepy as shit.
I don't understand this either. I want to see behind the scenes stuff to see what Netflix was thinking.
Also my mention of Meatcanyon was in no way a diss towards him. I think he's an animated horror genius.
It's anything but good times
Very true
The boom docks is considered anime😂
Boondocks was/is amazing. And all I could say about this new "cartoon" would be that Uncle Ruckus would happily set that studio down.
You say it's like a meatcanyon animated video. I find it to be like one of those crappy nft tv shows.
So good. Love your reviews!! 🔥
Glad you like them!
The artstyle isn’t bad. It reminds me of Les Lascars 🔥 the rest doesn’t seem good.
I said it before and I'll say it again: the Venn diagram between desperate pandering and horrible stereotypes is a fucking circle.
The baby IS LAMAR
Say sike right now
@@TheRealOne1010 The baby and Lamar have the same VA... sorry bro 😥
@@TheRealOne1010it’s him
The animation makes Beavis and But head look good
Beavis and Butthead slaps.
Beavis and Butthead is a good show
the difference is that B&B’s animation is super charming and it fits the atmosphere . This show on the other hand…
FACTS
The animation looks like some very early computer games.
as someone who refuses to watch this show, i appreciate this video for confirming all my suspicions... #Subscribed 👊🏾🔥
I'll be honest the animation and artsyle are the best part of this show. + the voice acting of course. The show might look "ugly" but I'd say that's intentional. Kinda like how the teenage mutant ninga turtles recent movie has this "ugly" artstyle that still looks cool.
Nothing will ever beat the damn damn scene
"Worst looking animation I've ever seen" you haven't watched Schadenfreude QuntCast
Nobody's watched that shit
Tbh First off Who made the decision to have Steph Curry in this like no offense to him but Seth Mcfarlane in this Look im not saying we can't have white producers on black shows but just why they but Seth I mean ge ruined Cleavland show Its just sterotypes after sterotypes and no Moral lessons
Yeah Seth is a usually a hit or miss for me. In this case, it was a big ol' miss. 😂
How was season 4 of the Boondocks better than the Good times shitboot?
(Actually wait that's not a question)
Dope video 💯
Side note, Netflix be hatin, so the only way to record shows on there is the old school handheld way.
I’m subbing for sure
I swear this show was trying to mimic Velma more than anything else for some reason
Ay thanks for this video. Really well made. Subbed.
You could just listen to the OG good times theme song and get the gist of its message from that alone. No clue what this demake wanted to accomplish.
1:32 It feels like you are just trying to hate tbh, the show looks fine and the art style is very obviously intentional. It's a stylistic choice, I for one am at least glad we don't have yet another adult animated show in that family guy style, but of course we are going to get less of those if every time a show attempts to be unique it gets critised for it
For real, the show may be bad, but you still can see the good work the animators and the design team did. The choppy animation is pretty cool, and the color palette plus the background choices quinda remind me of Basquiat's art style (idk why but it does)
You both are smokin métħ
I’m thinking the reboot is just a parody of its former self on purpose 😂
Great video! 10/10
Thanks for the comment! ❤
I never thought I'd see a modern day equivalent of the animation quality in Hammerman
The animation and style unironically looks like the Red Ape Family
Oh god it’s getting the Teen titans treatment
The boondocks started out as a syndicated comic strip in the 90s
The baby’s hair looks like pan dulce 😭😂
I get the Indiana jones because the project is like a jungle when the building manager doesn’t take care of the apartment and with her getting rain water and heating it up for hot water in lower class families so it’s represent what lower class family go through in the projects
I think the art style is derived from the french animated comedy 'Les Lascars' but they didn't understand how this style worked
The Boondocks was a comic strip long before it was animated, and much like a strip such as Doonesbury, was drivin by it's writing
Reminder someone at Netflix see what's the reboot is about and said "Approved"
Tom was possessed
I agree on everything except the character designs.
I they could've worked had the backgrounds been normal. With everything so distorted it gave me a headache.
If you like them that's cool but for me I'm tired of comedy animations purposefully making their characters look ugly in order to try to be funny like big mouth for example
@obezy8705 I don't it's that bad outside the dad who is supposed to be the ugly, fat idiot father.
7:27 Love how Elon gets the bite from BEHIND the plate
The boondocks warned us about this
The Animation is the high point, but at least we get to see Good Times Animated
Looks like it would be playing on the apartment TVs in gta 6
The animation on this show makes ANY Studio Deen animes(looking at 7DS too) look good.
Worst Animated show you’ve seen? Wait till you’ve seen Megamind Rules.
Oh, he has.
What's that there's nothing but the original movie and video games there's definitely nothing new in the Megamind franchise NOTHING
where is my next season of big mouth at?☹️
Idk about y’all but I love the backgrounds for this show, one of the only good things about it
IN MY OPINION, the animators are trying to SOMEWHATE mimic the art of Ernie Barnes who painted all the artwork and opening/ending credits painting the SUGAR SHACK, the style became known as the Black Romantic..
For the "hope" and "nope" on your Rick and Morty and invincible video all that I'm gonna say is that rick and Morty was okay at first but after awhile it just gets bigger than the marvel universe
You get it more at the netflix logo...i mean they litereally cancelled the shows like final space inside job and gave a another season to paraside pd and big mouth
Even the Family Guy cutaway gag of Good Times was better written than the Netflix series.
Pillboy did a very good video on the Good Times reboot if people want more depth on why it doesn't work.
There were so many great characters and stories in the Boondocks. Ebony Brown is my favorite female character of all time, bar-none. Ruckus somehow made Jimmy Rebel a slightly better person.
Even Season 4, whilst it wasn't as good as the other three seasons, is still better than a LOT of television that has come out at the same time or since.
Boondocks is goated
5:00 stinkmeaner took possession over Tom’s body. That’s why he has that episode
I watched one episode of the new good times show and couldn’t do it 😅
I agree with you, but at first I just thought maybe people have bad taste and maybe it'll get better later except it didn't.
2:37 Also that's what I've been SAYING ever since episode one
Yeah it really caught me off guard whenever he spoke 😂
I really gave this show a chance man I tried watching the first episode but tapped out with 19 minutes left, I ended up watching boyz n the Hood for the first time and actual good piece of black media
The deboot's animation is a mix of Pickle and Peanut and Fishhooks animation combined with Family Guy unfortunately it dips into Uncanny Valley as they try to mix different animations including real life depictions of objects or animals and it just makes everything look weird but you could always deal with it for those shows(Not Pickle and Peanut) because of the comedy making up for it.
6:56 yeah even if he serves as the voice of reason in the show, Huey can let that get to his head sometimes like when he was making the public announcement that Jesus was black in the first episode
Worst animation show? Lemme introduce you to The Nutshack
Honestly, their first mistake was having Seth MacFarlane attached to this. If they wanted to do a show with good black commentary, Aaron McGruder or someone of that caliber would've been a better choice.
Bruh this type of show is literally what the boondocks made fun of
ok all your points are valid but please don't blame the animators ? as i was trying to be one myself i can tell you even the greatest character animator cannot fix an already approved bad design. for example even if you animated the dad character the smoothest way you could possibly can that doesn't stop him from looking automatically ugly. Boondocks for its run since 2005 had a very good budget and looking at the other produced shows during that time, boondocks most likley had the highest budget for an animated show on AD plus since it was being produced by adult swim (the program most well known for experimentation and giving powers to the creators) the creators had a bunch of stuff they wanted to put in there is a bigger chance it will get added. That is why boondocks could look so good because they let them. Netflix has been sadly spitting in our face regarding animation with the numerous lay offs and canceling of actually great animated shows so they could spit out this cheaper made production because if this doesn't do well they can just sweep it under the rug and pretend like it didn't do well because its just another adult themed animated show they made and not because it was horribly made
Ah, yes. The Black Nutshack.
I can't tell if the people who did the Lascars animation worked on this or if they're actively mimicking the style completely. The art and animation is flat out a direct copy of that deep ghetto visual style that you see in French animation overall.
They made the dad look at a gorilla.
I bet you money that this will get a second season, shows like inside job get cancelled then shows like this come to replace them every fucking time 💀
One reason I think we cant have shows that are so satirical is because we constantly go in deep with everything and attempt to deconstruct things to be in our own narratives. Think most writing rooms aren't bad or terrible but you can tell especially for streaming shows they only go for writers that have low pay because they no the normie will watch even if its bad. The way you can look at how it tries to do commentary but instead of finding roots and reasoning it uses the references beforehand to set their points, how family guy cut aways had too and shows did in the 2000s to make a game reference. Sometimes it's a crutch or be a way to be simple and digest the idea,. then you get show that sit you down and tell you to listen and shut up. it's like every other adult comedy from the last decade, the target is teens that want feel like adults because the age rating.
this looks like a sequel to Velma
Our people wrote bookbdocks pjs and good times. Seth mcfarland wrote this
Finding out Seth MacFarlane had a hand in this show doesn’t shock me he loves black stereotypes it’s almost an obsession.
That vine of the black cop being mistaken for a robber has more humor and commentary than this show
I wonder if the voice cast actually read the script before signing on and how they could be okay with the material. was it all just a paycheck to them?
Nah man the worst animation ever is Squidbillies, I'd say 12oz mouse but thats too obvious
Wrd
Good video
Glad you enjoyed!
I think this debate is when does parodying something offensive become offensive.
good times being criticized for the stop-motion style is kinda unfair, I mean it could be artstyle and had been, but yeah every other points is fair enough
Good time is like rejected nft show
YOU INSULTED RICK!!
Indeed, indeed I'm just saying thank you for this evening true powerful video commentary is indeed truth be told the truth and food for thought. Yes again thank you for your deep point of view.
That baby character has a yee-yee ass haircut
WES MENTION RAAGGHHH!
first. mr dubwa was possessed by stikmeaner. when he called that dude who cut him off the nword
Funnily enough, Boondocks Season 4 had an episode that heavily references Good Times.
Edit: Even funnier, said episode is about being a sell-out.
2:00 Sauce: the OG Robocop.
I like the animation but its fine if ya don't likeit, I think its just a style choice