Wish is an INSULT to the Disney formula
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- I also watched the big disney100 movie and suffered 🙈 they forgot to cook w/ this one
Wish tells the story of Asha, a failed sorcerer's apprentice who makes a wish powerful enough to summon a cosmic being from the skies named Star. Together, the two join forces to save the kingdom of Rosas and stop the evil sorcerer king Magnifico before he takes everyone's wishes for himself.
Celebrating 100 years of magic, Wish is Disney Animation Studio's big return to the fairytale musical. But does the animation powerhouse come through? Find out today as we dive into Wish ✌️
0:00 I believe I've just been threatened
4:00 Oops! All Exposition
10:58 "At All Costs"
15:44 Uh oh, the king bad :(
21:05 Twinkle, twinkle, little star(boy)
26:23 The GOAT of all time
31:45 S(he) Be(lie)ve(d)
36:46 Late Intermission
43:15 All Star
50:11 Some final thoughts
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"Star was too close to the Genie so we changed him, also have 200+ Disney easter eggs from other movies"
😒
*Easter eggs that don't feel natural and are very forced.
It's crazy that they had a problem with star boy being do much like genie yet they didn't have a problem of ripping off Nintendo with the Lumas especially the fact it's literally released the same year as the Mario Movie
How Disney see the problem in DISNEY CHARACTER being similiar to ANOTHER DISNEY CHARACTER? Like I could understand if they worried Star Boy is to similiar to Jack Frost because he is from another rival studio, but Genie? Wth Disney?
"We want Wish to have a little bit of that nostalgia from old animated movies." (removes everything so that its a flavourless slop)
Copyrighting themselves so much they cant even refer to themselves in their own content
Sometimes you watch deleted scenes and think "aw man, that wouldve been cool to add, oh that makes sense!" Rarely do you see a bunch of deleted scenes and think "oh so theres the movie"
THIS, oh my god you put to words exactly how i feel rn lmao
I think we can infer who won the "Corporate cynicism not wanting to take any risks vs the creative drive of a team of talented, non-unionized artists" battle here
Fr fr
I wish we got encanto's deleted scenes
The evil power couple would have been amazing!!!!
I want Starboy too.
I want financial compensation for my loss disney 😔✌️
Same
Real honestly 😭
We all do.
We NEED star Boy😭
Asha and Starboy’s romance could have been a PERFECT callback to Disney’s classic true love’s kiss trope. But no we had have a plushie with Mickey’s face…
true love’s kiss literally kicked off the theatrical disney films 😭 you can’t just do a classic disney movie w/o one
@@CarrieTooTired i honestly wanted and expected magnifico to be freed from the curse with a true love's kiss by the queen, like in the beauty and the beast 😭
...?
how can they claim they've returned to the disney formula when they decided to cut the true loves kiss AND the princess main character smh!!
@@Random.Lobster?
Tbh i think they should've made ashas arc like a reversal of tianas, where tiana had to learn that she could rely on other people, asha has to learn to rely on herself. Instead of relying on magnifico to make her and her loved ones' wishes come true, she learns that she can strive to make them come true on her own
I can definitely see that as an arc 💕 It’s a pretty good lesson and plays into Magnifico’s reliance on magic!!
As James would say “…that old star can only take you part of the way. You got to help him with some hard work of your own. And then... Yeah, you can do anything you set you mind to.”
@@CarrieTooTiredhi this is the first video of yours I ever seen
It’s very good
@@CarrieTooTired Imagine having such a good message in that film, only to completely miss it so badly here. I feel like Disney is offensively trying to pander to Gen Alpha, who they assume are lazy, entitled, spoiled, whiny brats who have never seen a single day of strife, want everything handed to them, and don't understand the meaning of earning something. Just like Asha.
Asha is literally how Disney sees its target audience, and that really makes me angry.
YEA! Like the message being "You can wish on a star but it's YOU who makes the wish come true" That would feel so classic Disney
Disney taking away a love story because woman can't rely on man while making a young girl rely on a much older man to get her grampa's wish 😐 A man who could you know? Take full advantage of her because she trust him so much
Magnifico is not even a villain in the final product.
He's just A GUY trying to protect his system. He's the KING after all.
Fr, they just forced him into the villain role despite being set up to be a sympathic character
His reason is also logical, do you really want to grant every wish?
Do the writers know not every wish is good?
What if somebody wish for a genocide/war?
🤔
@@TheDFaiz Exactly XD It takes somneones wish to be "I want everyone dead" for the whole worls to dissapear XD
yeah, there was nothing about his system that was a cover for his selfish desires. maybe wishes can be done by others but he gatekeeps it to get all the attention? maybe he made a sacrifice or thinks he did and believes everyone should be grateful without asking. maybe he keeps the star captured and pretends it's his magic.
so many possibilities
It should've been so simple making him a "true old school Disney villain".
Just make him grant wishes that make his status and kingdom better. Planning an invasion of his original home, being the thief that destroyed it but was stopped.
How hard is it to be Jack Horner or Jafar?! Jafar has no motivation, no backstory, nothing. He just wants power and yet he's one of the most memorable and enjoyable villains despite being very one note.
You know you f*ucked up when you could’ve had a love interest AND a marketable plushie, they’re not mutually exclusive all Disney renaissance movies have both- but instead we got a corporate mute sidekick and an annoying useless sidekick 💀,
With them being non-human and her friends and family being as shallow as a puddle it seems Asha has no relationships going on WHATSOEVER 😂
fr like??? such a big cast of characters and for what???
Ykw that never even occurred to me lol. 😭
Also, if they were so afraid to give their strong female protagonist a love interest again, then why not have them be the best of friends. We need more platonic relationships between boys and girls expressed in animated movies. They can be soulmates, like people with twin souls, that are meant to be. I mean, especially if he is supposed to represent her wish, he's like a part of her soul.
Is it just me or do a lot of the scenes in the city feel.. Vacant? Empty? Unfinished? Idk. Maybe its just me
@@brendathevehicon because the city IS empty in many of the scenes where the main characters aren’t at the center of, giving this feeling that the world of Wish revolves around a small group of people. If Asha sings a song about herself instead of Rosas, there’s no need for villagers to hang around doing daily chores as they’re just visual flare, compared to the city life in Rapunzel yes, Rosas is like a “cuckoo clock kingdom” where life is seen only at certain times. You’re not alone 😭😭
At all cost could’ve been Asha parents singing to her if they didn’t want romance.
I can see it be workshopped into a lullaby
A friend and I were like what if Asha and Magnifico sang it while looking at the city. With Magnificos part later you notice its more when its himself focused areas of the city, and Asha is more on the people of Rosas and how much she cares for them and their dreams too.
If you wanted to keep it a magnifico and asha duet ofc and then reprise with starboy damit.
But gosh a lullaby wouldve been so precious ❤
Could've made her parents feel more important. They feel like the least fleshed-out parents in a modern Disney film.
@@CarrieTooTired. As is, the songs are so Bad, that even the hungarian dub can do better. Wich says a Lot coming from me(:🇭🇺)!
@@CarrieTooTired that sounds absolutely lovely!!
WHY did Disney have to cut out all the great concepts for Wish?!
You know what? I'm GLAD that they weren't nominated for anything this year! Maybe this is the wake-up call they need to start actually giving a shit about the movies and shows they make!
serves them right 😤 they really thought they could just autopilot this thing, specifically in 2023??? they were clownin'
easy to make it for kids.
@@viviennemorgan7217 the classic disney renaissance movies were made for kids AND successful and still had good ideas! heck, they even had darker ones in some of them, like the death of mufasa, the war and fallen soldiers in mulan, racism to gypsies in hunchback, an abusive parental figure in tangled etc. that’s not the reason. disney is just not being creative and ambitious here. they’re not daring to try hard anymore.
@@superreination yeah i know, i know that there are some dark moments in disney movies like the death scene of pedro and how he was killed by soldiers, rapunzel being kidnapped by mother gothel and being forced to stay up in the tower and other stuff. But here's wish, there's nothing dark about this movie except for the deleted scenes.
@@superreination What made Disney so great in the 90's is that they were unstoppable, the only non Disney animated film was able to come close to them was Anastasia.
Now a days there is so much competition that Disney lost the will to take risks. What's the point in making a film for kids and adults if it's not going to be a guarantee hit in the box office???? Princess and the Frog was so charming, but it was overshadowed by Avatar, so P&tF didn't live up to Disney's expectations.
If only they kept star's ability to shape shift, they could have squeezed in so much more easter eggs from previous disney films like animal characters, etc.
It could have been a kind of genie reference. 😔
Yes!!!
It's crazy that they had a problem with star boy being do much like genie yet they didn't have a problem of ripping off Nintendo with the Lumas especially the fact it's literally released the same year as the Mario Movie
@@astralminstrelor even peter pan references
@@AmericaFuckYeah4 hii hetalia pfp
I NEVER REALIZED how redundant Welcome to Rosas is
We were fooled by its catchiness 😔
@@CarrieTooTired we were also fooled for 100 years that magic wasn't even real to begin with.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 I wouldn't say that
It’s essentially ‘welcome to the family madrigal’ again but worse
@@taekinuru2 that’s exactly what I thought 😭
The cut scene of Asha telling Star-boy to turn down his brightness is so fun and cute!! I would've preferred those scenes to the actual movie
that exchange alone has more chemistry than any of asha’s relationships in wish 😭 I would say the entire movie but I really liked magnifico x amaya
They didn't give her THE dress T_T Didn't Disney want her in the princess lineup?
Aurora and Tiana have less screen time but more dresses 🫠 even from a non-merchandise perspective wouldn’t it just be fun to have pretty dresses and transformations???
@CarrieTooTired I really wish Asha kept the red in her concept art we dont have any red dress disney princesses
No really, where's the razzle dazzle?! Where's the pretty sparkling gown?!
It was so funny, cuz she seemed like she'd transform when the Star swirled around her at the end... And then... Nothing happened LOL
They did the same thing with the live action Ariel. They actually improved Jasmine’s wardrobe when they did the remake, but Ariel gets one just okay dress. Removed a lot of the magic.
My friend said he had to take his kids to Stone Cold Creamery to cheer them up, his daughter was close to tears by sheer boredom. If you can disappoint kids who adore Disney, you done goofed on your film.
that sounded rough, had a few little kids in my theater w/ a similar experience
I'm sure you meant Coldstone Creamery, but now I'm laughing at the idea of Stone Cold Steve Austin opening up an ice cream shop 😅😂
I seriously have never seen a movie with people preferring literally ALL the concepts over the finished product
Sure,some movies you kinda wish (hah) one or two scenes weren't deleted,or that they had gone with a different design. But this movie? The romance,Jack Frost wishing star flavor,villain couple,LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM THE CONCEPT STAGE WAS GREAT,your brainstorming/concept stage shouldn't outshine the FINISHED product!! What the hell Disney!!
pour one out for starboy 🤧
@@CarrieTooTired Never forget what they took from us
There is Illuminations Lorax....
Have you ever listened Biggering?
@@nguanimacoes9975I'VE BEEN SAYING BRO
FUCK, BIGGERING IS SO GOOD UGHH
Forreal though, what where they thinking? It's like they made a perfect dish and decided to make it again without any of the spice, such a bland and uninspired final product.
So you’re telling me that this movie has 7 shoehorned-in best friends to directly reference the 7 dwarves and countless other deliberate references to established Disney characters, and Starboy being too much like Genie was just unacceptable for some reason?
I guess it would have worked if it was Seven Star Boys.
yesss we can never have enough starboys
They wrote themselves into a corner when it came to the finale. So they had everyone sing to stop the king.
I feel like they wrote the finale and didn’t know how to get there 🙃
My little pony type ending💀
The power of friendship saved the day, and rapunzel magic tears healed Flynn, and-and all the pokemon's crying saved Ash Ketchum (I don't like that trope)
@@monoduck I love the magic of friendship trope, but only when it's done RIGHT. In MLP it's kinda the point for obvious reasons, but in other shows it often gets corny and cheesy, not to mention an ass pull.
@@imthebossmermaid3648the thing with mlp is that friendship is LITERALY Magic like making besties apparently shoots a giant rainbow Lazer
It really speaks volumes when their significantly smaller side production, "Once Upon A Disney" which is basically a glorified tour guide of the entire Disney history with all of their animated characters both 2D and 3D appearing in it, served as an infinitely better 100 year anniversary celebrating their legacy than "Wish" ever was.
It's genuinely baffling how hard they fumbled the bag with this one
Once Upon A Studio was just a scam. A charade they held on to for so long that we were fooled by it. You too.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 Can you elaborate?
?? @@nevaehhamilton3493
@@nevaehhamilton3493???
@@rattyeely the so-called "love letter" served as a cheap distraction to prepare us for the godawful abomination that was Wish. It was meant showcase all the fake good things that happened to Disney, which are all irrelevant considering the kind of people they chose to be. The short film was too chipper in its future, one that I hope and pray day after day after day after day will be its worst because of how badly they failed to redeem themselves in everyone's eyes. These films, all the hard work, none of it truly mattered in the grand scheme of things because they were never meant to tell a story. They were meant to make money. Money that the actual talented creators will never receive because the higher ups have leverage against them.
Bro, the “Watch out world, here I are” from You’re a Star almost gave me a seizure.
Everyday I wake up thinking “when it comes to the universe we’re all shareholders” thanks to editing this review 😔
Bro, that was like the fastest reply I’ve ever seen.
@@Thee_Onionator small creator gang ✌️ don’t get much traffic haha
@@CarrieTooTiredbecause in this channel we are all shareholders!
@@CarrieTooTiredOMG I just realized how small of a following you have??? craaazyyy you have such nice production quality
Somethings I'd Change:
1. Asha is Magnifico & Amaya's daughter
2. Star Boy.
3. King Magnifico is a fallen star.
4. At all costs was the lullaby they sang to Asha.
5. Asha WAS her parents Wish.
6. The story is a love story, both romantic and familia.
7. An external threat causes Amaya and Magnifico to be evil but it as spawned from wanting to protect people.
8. Asha using At all costs to remind her corrupted parents of their love for their daughter.
9. Star boy plays a major role and works to fix things with Asha. At All costs lyric Change can be a transformation of the song from a lullaby of her parents to a love ballad.
10. Amaya and Magnifico return to normal and they work together to save Rosas.
11. Queen Amaya is Black.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Yup!
@imthebossmermaid3648 She probably already is she just has Vitaligo, maybe
@@AmericaFuckYeah4 Vitiligo isn't a race it's a skin condition that anyone could have. Also are you talking about Asha or Amaya, or both?
@imthebossmermaid3648 I never said it was a race, and I'm referring to Queen Amaya
they didn't want starboy to be too powerful compared to asha by being able to transform into anything--and yet a movie like nemona doesn't seem to have this problem, despite her literally turning into a kaiju in the end. Anyway what I'm saying is nemona is just good wish
To be honest, I don’t share everyone’s enthusiasm abt Nimona (I think this cartoon is, well... just normal, I think?), but it was 100 times more interesting.
@@justzombie7594it was actually good not as big as everyone made it sound but probably they hype it cause they have what they consider "a good representation"
@@billykaplan9915 It was GREAT representation, and I loved it, even as a boring, basic cishet girl. Yes, it has pacing issues, but so do highly lauded films, like Into the Spiderverse (for real, why did that scene with Miles webbed to an unconscious Peter take so long).
Nimona was fun, and heartfelt, a great message, and genuinely good jokes that made me laugh so hard I couldn't breathe. The jokes in Wish just made me cringe.
I think the real reason they cut Starboy was because as usual, Disney rushed the film, and they didn't have enough time to animate such a complex character. It's really hard to rig all those puppets, since he's changing form all the time.
@@WobblesandBean Not to mention the suits were all over the production, and kept changing things for the sake of marketing, and other factors the movie shouldn't have to worry about DURING IT. Jennifer Lee's leadership has been nothing short of piss poor given how often the suits have gotten involved on the studio. She has to draw a line in the sand, and tell them to stay out of their way.
When the scene with the book saying that once you use dark magic you are corrupted forever I halved expeted that there was going to be a twist where Amaya's true love for Magnifico was going to be able to "break the curse". I didn't have too much hope, seeing how the movie was going, but I thought it would be fun to have the villain be the one that's save by true love.
yeah amaya should’ve saved magnifico from the magic in the end 🤧 that would’ve been so cute!!
disney has this weird meta since frozen that the concept of “true love” is… not good??? or at the very least “unrealistic” but it never feels like that sentiment came from a genuine place
I wish (no pun intended) that had been the case, it would have been a nice thing to see. But no, Disney had to go woke with the usual man evil bad, woman powar for evar. 😢 😑
@@CarrieTooTired Well, at least it was interesting in Frozen, as something new and unusual. But kind of... God, they really should Google the word "balance"
This is such a good idea 😭
Why Disneeeeyyyyyy?
I’ve always been obsessed with villain lovers who are actually in a healthy relationship. If this movie had done that well, I really would’ve given Disney their W, but NO 😭
@@joypink5599 Haven't you watched Lego Monkey Kid? It’s just that there are such relationships there, so I’ll just give you a note if you’re interested, maybe
Asha says “if the wishes are bad we can stop them” but there’s never a moment where the wishes aren’t portrayed as the best and most magical thing in the world, and there’s never a moment where she gets challenged on her beliefs, where someone says that they got their wish granted, but realized that they didn’t need it to be happy
Fr nobody in this movie learned anything during the course of this. There was an amazing setup for Cynicism and laziness ruining the pure idealism Magnifico once had. Instead we got 'I love magic because it gives me stuff then I can give you stuff too!' which is literally how Magnifico got where he was in the first place!
They should've used that to teach her a lesson tbh. At first she thinks everyone deserves their wish and turns against Magnifico thinking he's in the wrong by being selective but then realizes after granting all the wishes that he was right, the kingdom is a mess because most of the wishes are rubbish or even harmful, people are unhappy, etc. At that point she has to ask for Magnifico's help to fix what she caused and learns that you have to be careful what you wish for or someting like that
I honestly feel bad for king magnifico. He was Literally the hero of the story until he just randomly got possessed.
Also, when he got sucked into the staff in the end, doesn't that mean he got out of being possessed? Yet the queen didn't try to figure out if he was still possessed or not and just locked him up? The person she loved for years???
This movie Gave me almost as much of a headache as the end of "orion and the dark" on Netflix 😑
About to be so for real, wouldn’t the wife be able to tell he wasn’t possessed anymore. When the wife saw him in the mirror, wouldn’t see notice that he didn’t have that green glow in his eyes anymore? He literally wasn’t evil enough, he had to be possessed to be considered a villain.
@@random_person54 exactly! Yet she just left him there!
The book was the real villain and we didn't even get to know more about it?
His eyes reverted when the wishes were taken away so I’m assuming that means they broke the spell, but I think the queen’s intentions got lost somewhere in the finale so disney basically uncooked their relationship altogether 😭
I think Magnifico using dark magic bc of his paranoia is an interesting direction, but I think the 0 - 100 jump to evil was too simplistic for a villain that’s “not a twist villain” 🫠
@@CarrieTooTired it's such a shame, because they were such a cute couple 😭
Exactly! It was way too forced!
What would have been better if the deity in the book was the actual villain, using magnifico like a puppet.
@@wooperfan584 my guess is that the book’s magic is just dark fairy magic since the book itself is a reference to Maleficent 🙃 they literally made the same reference for Descendants, but if the green dragon was an anti-life force that feeds on wish magic, we could’ve gotten a cool finale instead of just Green Magnifico 😞
48:07 I've been hearing that this guy right here might be the original base for Star Boy. Not only did they reduce our boy to a marketable plushie, but a flipping REFERENCE to Peter Pan! They did him so dirty...
Honestly looking at the concept art… yeah that’s definitely him recolored 🫠 which is diabolical considering starboy was initially inspired by Peter Pan-
1:56 starboy would have been better all together 48:07 looked uncanny valley levels of creepy.
That has to be him, there’s no other way.
yeah that was definitely him...
@@moaharbor...???
it baffles me that they cut starboy because he was "too close to genie" like you'd think that wouldn't be a bad thing in a movie that's literally filled with references to other disney movies
Star boy turning into a horse, then turning down the glow to a light on his chest could’ve been a Maximus reference
people clown on the caution line from asha's song or the rent line from magnifico's pathetic attempt at a villain song, but the worst one for me is 'when it comes to the universe we're all shareholders in the system solar' CHRIST my ears
is that REAL ?????????? 😭😭😭 i thought it was a fuck like a mountain rat situation oh my g o d
@@jasminv8653 What's a "fuck like a mountain rat" situation?
I honestly was on Magnifico’s side for the entire movie and he didn’t even get super evil to me? He like actually did a lot for the town and also Asha was dead wrong for immediately trying to get something from him. Also he is hot.
Idk what they were thinking by making Asha’s dumb-ass move the kick-off to the main conflict???
But yes Magnifico is so hot holy-
"He is hot"
I had concerns that we had a new tumblr crush on our hands......😆😆
Like, yeah, he was bad and all. But the worst thing he did was use wishes for power- he never even tried to kill anyone. Disney has lost their balls when it comes to dark content. (and I agree that he's hot)
he had a really good reason to be that protective and the punishment he got was really unproportional. they are so used to making twist villains that they kind of... forgot how to make a classic evil for evils sake villain? then tried to apply the rules of a traditional villain on a character who was easily redeemable
@@mariae931 Yesss. So true
I really hope they fire Jennifer Lee as the creative head. She's clearly not as talented as they thought and the fact that she insulted traditional animation is so bad.
Jennifer Lee got too much credit for writing Frozen, she didn’t even create Elsa-which by the way is the reason why Frozen is so successful. Her writing is subpar and full of plotholes at best and when they give her too much creative control, thats when things go bad. She’s responsible for the atrocious writing of Wish, Frozen 2, and Wreck it ralph 2
I think we need to get a bunch of talented artists to created a 2d-animated "fan" re-creation of Wish to give audiences the version that the audience was robbed of.
What’s disappointing is Disney has PROVEN the can mix mediums before.
I think they just got lazy and rushed the whole thing just so they can CALL it a 100th Anniversary movie and rake in those nostalgia dollars.
@@therealopaartist Disney was very diligent in playing it as safe as possible, and in doing so they created their magnum opus in mediocrity. The creative team really should've stuck to their guns and made the movie they originally wanted to create, even if it would've taken longer. As an old man once said, "You can't rush art."
@@user-iv9nr4ud3f this movie was a terminal disappointment and a waste of my bandwidth. That’s two hours I’ll never get back.
I actually know a CZcamsr whos making her own wish movie! Shes realeasing the storyboards on her channel :)
@@Brownie_12367Who?
Ironically, Puss in Boots:The Last Wish actually had way more references to fairytales and Disney callbacks without being too annoying about it. Magic nanny bag, poison apples, walking broom, Jiminy Cricket, heck even a cameo of Cinderella’s glass slipper, all present and were fun Easter Eggs to find.
Bonus for Perrito being the ‘animal sidekick’ that is actually developed well and doesn’t detract from the scene like Valentino the goat did. Plus, MAGIC WISHING STAR being front and focus and shows off its immense power even without granting a single wish. So failure on Wish right there.
And I do love the shoutout to Trolls 3 😂 That movie played with nostalgia (early American boy bands) much better and had a banger soundtrack that still lives for free in my brain (and I don’t even charge it rent 😉). While I’m more into the protagonists than Velvet and Veneer, I do love how ‘extra’ they are as villains and their spaghetti body designs allows a lot of room for creativity and expression.
The viewer can also see how much more impactful their actions have on the characters. Along with the obvious height difference, there’s such a coldness with Velvet whenever she steals Floyd’s and the other’s essence and displays such a blatant disregard for them every time she interacts with them. Excess shaking, overusing the spray, amused when they attempt to bargain for their release, she’s really a despicable character and is soooo vain and selfish 😂
That’s the level of horridness King Magnifico needed to be! Honestly, if one were to pit Velvet and King Magnifico together, she would totally wipe the floor with him verbally and he probably wouldn’t be a able to get a spell in cause she would steal whatever is available and easy to grab and take him by surprise. 😂
I shall forever be embarrassed that I slept on Trolls 3.
When I finally watched it, God... What a great film
@@nairocamilo not surprising. There’s quite a few films I passed on the first time around that ended up being great to watch. I blame bad trailers mainly for that.
If one is not into the ‘Trolls’ franchise, yeah it can be difficult to muster up the desire to watch the movies/shows, especially when it’s been (unfavorably) memed out as something that’s “too silly and childish” to take seriously. Fortunately for me, I was so mad at DreamWorks marketing and myself for not seeing movies like Megamind, How to Train Your Dragon, and Rise of the Guardians in theaters that from “The Croods” onwards I vowed to see every DW movie in theaters. And yes, I have stuck to that rule and that’s how my friend and I ended up seeing “Trolls” while in college and surrounded by families with kids everywhere 😂 we have since watched the next two movies together and she indulges in my crazy theories and world building head cannons 😅
Well, Disney should hire you BECAUSE of this video! You didn't just say "I don't like it!" You gave a detailed and intelligent critique! Walt would hire you, but Bob just wants yes-men, so here we are!
Great video! I enjoyed it!
aww thank you sm 💖
I don’t think Disney would hire film critics
@@danshull1331 I don't think he would hire Bob, either.
Disney would probably just hire an assassin if they wanted to. They have enough money to get away with murder with a slap on the wrist. If Fazbear Entertainment could do it, then so can Disney.
@nevaehhamilton3493 with the way disney is going, I almost prefer fazbear entertainment. Maybe Freddie would kill me, but I'd be entertained.
You might have already seen it, but you can find the deleted scene "Magnifico's secret" on youtube! It's a scene between Magnifico and Queen Amaya(when she was still written as a villain), and their chemistry as an evil couple is so incredibly charming. Amaya has so much character and it made me laugh more times than the entirety of Wish. You should definitely watch it if you haven't yet, it might be my favorite storyboard of the bunch.
Ohhh thank you 💕
I actually saw it a few days ago and ahhh 🙈 loved their dynamic sm!! SHE CALLED HIM POOKIE AND GOOD BOY I WAS LIVING AND WE WERE ROBBED
"he was too much like genie" ah cool so the already heavily self-referential centennial movie could have had a character inspired by one who is very possibly disneys biggest icon ever after mickey while still keeping him faily distinguishable by making his role in the story different... and we thought this was a _bad_ idea
The Wish was so bad that many suspected that the movie was written and generated by AI. However, this is apparently not the case, instead the film was re-written and re-edited many times before it took its final shape. For example, Asha's romance with the star boy and the queen's villainess were unfortunately elements that didn't pass the approval of Disney's jury of sensitivity readers. And while in some cases sensitivity readers can be useful, such as in consulting, in this case its use ate away a lot from the film. However, I would still be interested to know what the jury's reasons for these changes were, because it is important data and part of the film's development history.
The only thing worse than AI writing: studio executive meddling.
sensitivity readers couldn’t handle a romance because romance makes us women weak.
I think love makes people strong, see sailor moon. Who's love is her greatest weapon
Ok heres my hot take: I see people being glad they got rid of starboy because the romance would've been "too cliché". Ok then! In that case, why couldn't they have kept starboy but just make their bond _platonic??_ It could've been just as powerful, and been _even more_ submersive. Like guy and girl with a deep meningful bond thats not romantic? Wouldn't that be cool!
But no, apparently its sooo much more unique to have star be uh... A fucking plushy? 🙄
Honestly my biggest biggest problem with wish was that I didn’t care about any of the characters, like half the cast was so wishy-washy in their personality and the other half didn’t seem to have any??
Also this was a great video! You deserve so much more views
thank you sm 🙈💖
also totally agree on the characters, they really just shove archetypes in your faces and called it a day 🫠 w/ sabino it’s “hey here’s the old grandpa who’s 100 years old, feel bad for him bc his dreams aren’t coming true on his birthday” …but it’s not like sabino *literally* waited since he turned 18??? Magnifico is not *that* old and the kingdom is young, most of its ppl are immigrants- srry abt the tangent, but tldr: the characters are very one dimensional
A lot of the characters were nothing but cut in background characters only thrown in when needed to fill empty spots in the story or characters shoehorned to fit easter eggs like Asha's friends being the seven dwarves
“Wish”y washy??😃
Ikr? Like I cannot describe anything about any characters in the movie besides their appearence... Oh and Ashs is "quirkyyy" I guess but like i dunno, I don't feel characters contrasting with one another because not only they're all the same there's literally nothing about them... Idk if I explained it properly but yeah, i agree.
@@batkittii bro-💀
I’m still bitter about Starboy being replaced with some Great Value Luma. We were severely robbed
I want my disney love story back! Give female characters a love intrest again, they can be strong independent characters AND have a love interest, look at Mulan and Tiana. Screw you Dis Knee.
When I saw that knock off Luma, I knew it was wraps for Wish XD
Literally every single concept Wish had is so much better than what we got. What the heck happened
yeah its really bizarre. Most disney concept art pales in comparison to the final product, like with Frozen. But with Wish, the concept art looks like they had the potential for something good, it just needed more polish. But the movie ends up looking poorly developed, like they pulled every trope from the disney guide and didn’t do anything new or interesting with it. Also, the movie just reeks of corporate. Aisha being the rapunzel-esque adorkable get-getter heroine, the “follow your dreams” and “believe in yourself” mantra, the pop songs, and the villain being reduced to a cackling mustache curling baddie because the writers couldn’t think of a way to prove him wrong so they just made him go crazy.
It makes me miss old Disney even more!
“D-Disney, don’t turn me into a marketable plushie-“
“DISNEY”
The cut scene you missed is on CZcams. It shows how much of an ACTUAL villain Magnifico could have been! And how much chemistry him and Amaya had, not only as a couple but also as a villain. AND HE TRIES TO STEAL A FREACKING STAR ON THAT SCENE AND TRIES TO EACH A COUPLE OF WISHES LIKE IT WAS NOTHING!!! I'm..... so disappointed at Disney...
I actually saw it a few days ago, their evil villain dynamic was delicious!! also stealing a star is definitely more creative than using a magic green book for sure
@CarrieTooTired definitely! It also makes Magnifico a bigger threat and links him and Amaya to the main characters in a natural way. It gives the story higher stakes, especially for starboy, making the end of the movie much more believable. There's an animatic made by Ariel Samuel about the end, where they put star boy in. It fixed the whole scene and complimented the song in a much better way!
@@luizaraposo2320 Stealing a star also doesn’t take away Magnifico’s agency as a character like an evil book possessing him does. The first one is an active choice he made to gain unimaginable power, but the second one seems to happen to him like he’s Gollum drawn to his “precious,” which could still be really interesting but the devil’s in the details and there was virtually no progression getting him from “well-meaning leader who wants to do right by his kingdom” to “power-hungry, mustache-twirling supervillain.”
In the end I kind of felt bad for him getting locked up in the mirror when as far as I was aware, he was a good king made the victim of a magical curse. The same could be said for Gollum and getting possessed by the ring but at least he actually did truly heinous things to justify being a villain but all Magnifico did was make a few people sad, I guess? Honestly, King Triton acted more villainous than him when he trashed Ariel’s grotto (and he’s not supposed to be a villain).
@colbystearns5066 That's a really good point! It felt to me that they put the book part cause they didn't have a good excuse to make him a villain, and there wasn't enough time in the movie. Idk. It just felt lazy and unfair. For me, it actually makes the queen look like a twist villain who took the opportunity to get the throne just for her.
@@luizaraposo2320It’s fascinating how Queen Amaya was originally meant to be a villain, then was turned into a hero but they forgot to take out the parts where she’s scheming like a villain with the frickin’ magic hand oil(!!!). I’m amazed hardly anyone brings that up in all of the reviews I’ve seen because it’s so infuriating and contrived.
Like did Magnifico ever know about that stuff but just chose not to use it because he’s an idiot who wanted to turn evil or merely forgot to apply it or did he really not know anything about it and Amaya hid it from behind his back knowing he’d fall victim to the book’s curse and she’d be there to take over the kingdom from him? This feels like the movie that keeps on giving with how much wrong there is with it.
Im still mad that they messed up the King and Queen. We could have had a villian power couple with the mannerisms of Morticia and Gomez Addams and Disney took it away from us.
Asha: ‘you shouldn’t arbitrarily decide who gets to make a wish come true’
Also Asha: ‘I’m the fairy godmother now’
15:23 In other words, when it comes to the song "At All Costs", the songwriters wanted to have their cake and eat it too
they pulled a miles morales and smushed both cakes there-
@@CarrieTooTired BAHAHHA A SPIDERVERSE REFERENCE
If they didn't want Star to be too similar to genie they could have kept his human design but still made him mute
I wonder if they changed the story so heavily because of how much they despise The Emperor's New Groove lol
Kronk: Well, you got me. By all accounts, it doesn't make sense.
Mabey i do not get it to much but chould you tell me bit wat you mean?
I can understand the part where it chould be seen as izma part but not aside fro that I do not get all to wel
Apparently the Emperor's New Groove didn't even have a proper script @@hncg-x1601
Man, seeing the deleted scenes made me straight up sad because how good and much potential they showed. I wanted THAT movie! I wanted Starboy, a main lead who isn't another 'uwu quirky girl', a villain couple, a final act with the villain turning into a monster!
Seriously, I wanna slap the person who stepped in and was like, "Nah, let's strip all that away and instead make it generic as hell.'
Dude, same! The idea of a love story with a shapeshifting Jack Frost looking starboy would’ve been such a huge hit among the young crowd, but noooo! Hell, they would’ve been able to sell those dumb plushies better had they still have starboy! This could’ve been a love story that was on the same level as Tangled. Corporate meddling had to ruin everything! 🙃
The fact that we could have had a renaissance of a Jack Frost type character through the Starboy in the 2020s is Disney’s most egregious crime right next to its first villain couple. Wish had all the makings to be an amazing film but corporate meddling, keeping up with trends, and trying to copy and paste Encanto’s success killed it.
Okay, hear me out: If Evil Magnifico wanted to mess with Asha, hurt her in the finale in front of everyone, instead of dragging HER up onto the stage, drag her *Sabino* up there (instead of her or with her) like a perversion of the Wish-granting ceremony Asha wanted for his 100th birthday the whole time. Really rub salt in the wound that Magnifico will NEVER grant Sabino's Wish.
And Asha looks at Sabino and says something like "Saba, I never should have tried to get your wish granted... (gasp, whaaat?) I wanted to become Magnifico's apprentice to help you because... *you are my greatest inspiration!* But you don't need *me* to grant your wish. You don't need _HIM_ (Magnifico) to grant your wish either. *_You,_** Only YOU, can make **_YOUR_** wish come true! ... and you've already showed me you can."*_ And Asha's gentle peptalk is what prompts SABINO to sing the reprise to the people and INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION CROWD TO TAKE THEIR WISHES BACK, demonstrating that everyone has the power in them to try and make their wish come true, and the best way to help guide someone to their dream is with understanding and support, (not just handwavy cheat magic.)
That's actually a lot better than what we got.
it reminds me of that one trend:
we could have had starboy?
WE COULD HAVE HAD STARBOY?!
About the scene you missed: it was a scene where Amalia prepared a "potion" for Magnifico. He used it (along with some chants in Latin) to create a sort of "rope of light" to drag down the star from the sky. It was quite dramatic.
In the scene, he fails and has an outburst of rage and frustration where he attempts to eat wishes out of spite. There was a really cool interaction between him and Amalia, who was trying to calm him down and stop him from devouring three wishes:
A: "this is your favourite cook's wish!"
KM: "There are other cooks".
A: "This is your best guard's...and please, this is my mother's!"
KM: "Well, in that case..."(Magnifico tries to sneak it)
A:"Please, be serious!"
It was really a good moment where they established the villain power couple. I think you can still find it on other reaction vids
I actually watched it the other day! loved the dramatic flair 👀 plus the mil joke is so fun
“get that through your system, solar!” Is now stuck in my head. Thanks
when it come to the suffering we’re all shareholders-
Get that through your system, bipolar!
Wait its solar? I thought they were just randomly saying "SODAAA!!!!" for no reason lol.
How would the Wish characters even KNOW what soda is??? XDDD
@@sanjivekumarkhadka832*Joe Biden appears* SODA!!!
When I went to see this, I loved it but I HATED the third act, even after seeing the film in person, the concepts had a lot of potential but fell flat immediately which is why I'm rewriting my own "Wish" over on Tumblr in which I believe should've been the real celebration of 100 years of Disney
My feelings for Wish were slowly dwindling by the time we got to “At All Costs” bc of the whiplash that song gave me 💀 but yeah the entire movie was full of missed opportunities and I’m glad that people’s response to it is disowning what we got and remaking it to what could’ve been
@@CarrieTooTired The film just had bad pacing; the deleted scenes suffered from this, too. I'm currently working on a rewrite, and I was able to keep most of the script and resurrect all but one of the deleted scenes just by shuffling things around.
A lot of people say that from the basic concepts utilized for the story this could have never worked but I've MLP projects (both official & fan made) make these ideas work in less than 1h.
Yeah it definitely felt like a story that was rewritten a lot and needed more time to be workshopped 🫠 in a world where wish didn’t have the burden of being “the big d100 project,” wish could’ve taken some risks that would’ve paid off given the general conversation surrounding it
God, I would love a Villain Couple. I would kill for a really good evil duo who are also in love. I want them to have a healthy relationship with one another but be utterly toxic to everyone else.
Somebody else write me that story, because Disney ain't gonna do it.
I was wondering about the queen and how she was just okay with sealing away her husband, when it was the magic that was corrupting him...
It's such a shame they didn’t go with the scrapped plot twist that Magnifico is a fallen star himself. That would've been awesome
42:33 Tbh, the energetic twink Starboy really works well with Asha being able to bring him down to earth
Please disney its OKAY to make another tragic love story...
35:40 "because we need that empowering moment of a Queen coming into her own, don't we Disney?"
Lucky us, that it wouldn't have been *much more empowering* to actually see her acting as a Queen in the movie. And not just stand there quietly for the most part, despite Magnifico not having been characterized as an abusive husband who oppresses his wife with whom he built this very kingdom.
From what I remember seeing in the movie, they could have easily given her proper Queen duties including being the one more involved with the town's people which would have payed off very well in the end
But naaaah lol
“…but if the queen is competent, how is the audience gonna know that asha is strong and can solve all her problems by herself 🤪” - some comment from a test screening, somewhere …probably
My mom fell asleep during the movie and she never falls asleep during disney movies
My younger sister couldn't comprehend this movie.
@@hardyjoe4278 yikes, that's bad
Most people when they see S(he) Be(lie)ve(d): "He lied"
Me: "SBeve"
when i watch wish, they made a reference to the seven dwarves, like dahlia is too obsessed with magnifico, dario has to take care of his chickens, simon is too much of a sleepy character, safi sneezes so much, hal isn't like happy and gabo is too mad oh and bazeema is too shy of a person to speak up.
but if you know that at all costs is suppesed to be a love duet between starboy and asha protecting each other and the wishes.
WE JUST WANT OUR STARBOY DISNEY.
It was very boring. I kinda wish that it was in 2D like it was planned to. Yes. Could’ve taken longer to get out, it could’ve been better
2D would’ve been amazing but even a true 2D/ CG hybrid in the likes of Paperman would’ve been so much more exciting than whatever we got 🙃
43:48 They look like father and daughter and it’s strangely cute
the potential of having Magnifico as her father-figure for personal stakes was *right there*
Imagine this was the plan but they just scrapped it 💀
They had EVERYTHING to make Wish a great movie and they didn't, i ended up caring more about Magnifico than i did about Asha
You know, they could've had star boy shape shift into little star from time to time. That way, they could've had a great character and a marketable plushie. Like, when Star boy needs to lie low, he could've shapeshifted to little star.
Props for mentioning The Great Mouse Detective !
I think I have a little problem with all the seven friends stacking things together while singing about bethroning their king ... Like mmm sure ...????😅
thank you 💕 basil of baker street is the 🐐!!
My running theory about starboy's change was that roughly the same time Disney was also bankrolling Nimona, and had to pivot their ideas once scenes started looking too similar.
I am internally sobbing as I daydream about an alternate timeline where I'm at the theater, tearing up at a Wish that pays a beautiful homage to classic Disney movies and the inspiring messages Walt has made about following your dreams (and has mute star boy)
46:45 I like to imagine a group of rogue animators, having to sneak into the studio to add one good scene into the movie
wish has so many individual elements that could’ve made so many different and amazing movies/shows. like, a fairy godmother origin story would have been incredible and so cool. a show about seven teenagers who are clearly the seven dwarves but still doing their own thing might’ve actually been interesting. and the beautiful romance between star boy and asha?! they just had way too many ideas and no time thanks to the people who basically own these animators lives.
and of course the writers, the entire creative team was clearly struggling for synthesis and cohesion because this movie is incomprehensible sometimes
If anything Wish could serve as a cautionary tale about how Corporate Greed can Royally Ruin a good idea & how Extremely Bad it can cost Everything Good that could have happened.
Ok, but making a Peter Pan based Star Boy is the basis for like the most romantic story Disney could have made in a decade. There is something inherently romantic about a guy physically flying into your life and physically whisking you off into the sky. The not Disney 2003 version got it, Aladdin got it, (and so did Steven Moffat and Matt Smith 😅), and I think a lot of people would have loved something like that! The romantic in me wanted to see a Once Upon a Dream/ fairy dance/ pas de deux sequence so much!
the romantics yearn for the flying/ cloud dances
the lost potential is so infuriating..... the writers and concept artists really had a vision but none of it ended up being real bc disney played it way too safe and now its boring
I'm 89% sure that the spiderverse screwed Wish over. No fault of its own. It was just too good. Also there's no fairy tale to retell. The foundation of all the classics is that they are retelling a story. Even the Lion King is just Hamlet with some african myths mixed in. The key ingredient in the disney formula is to dust off an old fairy tale to make the base.
Edit: I found one. The Six Ravens/swans because it includes 7 siblings and the main character is the daughter. She gets help from a star.
spider-verse’s success definitely changed the animation game, but I think the animation style in wish was a strong case of “interesting ideas, bad execution”- they probably didn’t want to do a drastic change for the “average moviegoer” to not recognize it as a “disney movie” 🤪 i think disney’s talents are capable enough to create a fairytale (from the deleted scenes we got at least), but the bottom line is that the higher ups didn’t care- they clearly just wanted something really quick and safe w/ enough sparkles to make people want to watch other disney movies afterwards 😞
@CarrieTooTired that's the difference between you and me. Maybe because my writing style is like that. It's like there is an already exists I can expand. To the cake metaphor if someone created a cake and I had free reign to decorate I'm going to do something good. Maybe not great but better than this.
I was like... wish? That site with cheap knockoffs for sale?
Then I remembered: OH YEAH, THIS SHIT IS A THING THAT HAPPENED!
I am at 16:55 of this video and just realized that Sabino's wish would be too vague to grant even if it wasn't dangerous. Like what would Magnifico do? Make Sabino have an inspirational aura? Have him speak inspirational? Have him build a home? The wish shows him singing and using his guitar but then wish was only to create something that will inspire. Dangerous or not, it was vague to the point where Magnifico wouldn't even know how to grant it in the first place.
The problem isn't that pop music artists can't do music for Disney movies. The problem is that they SHOULD make their music more THEATRICAL because it's basically animated theatre.
And also depends in the context.
F.e Treasure Planet having more of a rock sound makes sense because the ambient isn't "magic fairytale" it's sci-fi and steampunk.
And Elton John didn't made pop for The Lion King. He did what the movie needed.
The problem is that these NEW SONGWRITERS think more of the song itself than how it integrates with the whole product.
The evil king guy wanted to be Ballister from Nimona SO BAD
TBH, I think this is the Chicken Little situation all over again, but in different execution.
Chicken Little was at least fun.
Chicken little almost an equivalent of UP, despite the early storyboard supposed to have slice of life themed movie
wish could have being better : an new princess with the first shapeshifter star love interest , the villians the first evil king and evil queen couple with an evil cat , and an better story , but disney siad no to all of it , but luckily people wrote fanfictions and inspired fanart of what wish could have being and better titles
This has to be the best review of wish lmfao
haha thank you 💕
I love how the villain of Wish looks VERY similar to the guy who cut out all the good parts of what could have been an amazing movie. It feels satisfying
"but magnifico's transformation interested me the most.
hear me out"
i agree
I hate Disney sm right now for removing the writer’s amazing ideas..
get that through your system, solar, gave me psychic damage each time 🌚
"HOW COULD YOU MISS IT WAS RIGHT THER-"
-Mushu the second he sees how low Disney got
I honestly didn’t care to much about starboy until you showed that deleted scene. He was so goofy!
My question is. Why couldn't Starboy been a human, shapeshifter, AND mute. Humans don't have to talk. It would've separated him from genie, if that's what they were worried about. It could even be a callback to the little mermaid, SINCE THEY LOVE THEIR CALLBACKS, THEY COULD'VE LEANED INTO THAT. Imagine the potential of a mute magical character speaking through so many magical means. A call back to kiss the girl, maybe??? (like Asha falls first and wants to express it to him but can't for whatever reason, and he wants to tell her he likes her too but doesn't really know what to do about love because he's not use to being a human, etc etc) What if Magnifico captured Starboy and locked him down?? what if they inverted the damsel in distress trope with that??
The lack of human Star, as well as "this song can be applied to any situation so it can be played on the radio" songs, shows that the "heart" of this movie is just a money bag.
I want to know when Disney will stop slapping together thoughtless concepts in a last minute rush because they aren't giving their teams enough time to iron out kinks (in every area, apparently). From so many behind the scenes of recent movies from them, it's clear that crunch is HEAVILY weighing on everyone in the studios. There are so many concepts and things they cut and then give no time to properly rework, and it's dropped their quality down the drain.
We know they have the money to make it work. Stop relying on name and nostalgia alone and let the artists (of all mediums) you've hired for your movies actually have enough time to breathe. Believe it or not, selling your cute sidekick merch works a lot better when the movie they're attached to is actually something people enjoy watching.
Whenever I hear the “in the Universe we’re all shareholders” line i genuinely start twitching and convulsing WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
It’s another sign people use to think it COULD be ai written.
@@fritzy8318 I don’t blame anyone id think the same if I didn’t know how absolutely deranged studio executives can be. Finally some representation for them 😊
HOLY 55 minutes long Carrie you cooked with this video it was fun watch :) and yeah Disney needs to get it together
thank you chilly 😭💖 disney is *fumbling* man what are they doing???
concept art is good bcs you see the actual creativity from the artists without yet getting strangled by corporates and ceos
Once upon a studio, a 8 minutes short has: more talent, more creativity AND respect for animation than Wish. More emotion too! I almost cry when i saw Mickey thanking Walt for all theses years of magic and dreams. It was adorable 🥰This short is, to me, the real 100 years celebration of the compagny.
i can hear walt rolling in his grave
What infuriates me is the costume designs. They dont tell me much about the characters or culture (But hey, havent watched the movie).
As you said about magnifico his design is semetrical and screems perfection, enven his slicked back hair (It would be cool to see a shot where his hair gets messy and he huffingly shuves it back in place.). I also like that his colour palet is white - useually having connotations of purity light or hope, which is a stark contrast to the "Villan" role he "plays" which (would have) been and interesting irony for the veiwers.
But asha? What even is she wearing? And i do not see any cultural anything from her outfit. Furthermore she just blends in to the backg characters, kinda forgetable and nlt really what you want for a main character. Remember encanto and the culture there? On top of that infeel like Ashas hair moves very wierdly and more in a block than actual hair strands. And we know disney can do this, the did it with mirabel, Rapunzel. Missed opportunity.
Magnificent did the hair brush 2(?) times if I remember correctly 🤔 once in the beginning when he helped Asha w/ the security spell and once after “this is the thanks I get” so the perfectionist in him is there they just didn’t integrate it into his personality and opted in for vanity instead 😔 I heard someone said he switched roles w/ Amaya somewhere during preproduction and I kinda see that in his design, if anything they should’ve just changed him back and make him regret using the book imo
I think Asha is Afro-Latina??? I just know rosas is supposed to be in the mediterranean sea and the citizens are all immigrants 🤷♀️ but yeah the purple only makes sense when she’s standing w/ the teens bc it’s a rainbow color scheme
Yeah, the design also bothers me because I'm from Spain and I know it was suppose to be base on our middle ages, wich is such a cool period. It's often refered to as the three cultures because musulims, christians and jewish people lived together (before the Inquisition), and you can still walk through some cities and tell where each group lived by the architecture. It was such a blend of cultures, wich would work perfectly in a story where the concept is people of all the world came to the kingdom, but they made it feel soo bland. I've heard that Asha is suppose to were purple to reflect her north-african heritage, but there is nothing to show that this is kingdom made up by people from all over the world.
@@CarrieTooTired ive been watching a couple other wish videos all day today. asha is moreso afro-hispanic, since afro-latina would be like latin america, and shes in spain i think. the purple was because that had to do with her amazigh heritage and was supposedly mentioned in the art book
That’s because the song “at all cost” was originally for Asha and the Starboy and was a love duet with each other, but when they changed the story, they kicked out the Starboy and just change minor things in the song the song, again, it sucks because the original plot they had for this was much better than what we got.😒😔
Wish constantly tries to appear diverse without ever bothering to actually to characterise, flesh out or center any of the characters that are usually underrepresented. But the best version of this was sitting right in front of them !!
It’s so weird hearing concept artists talk about how Starboy couldn’t at once be a ‘mime’ character and humanesque. Like, deaf people who choose not to speak .. exist !?? U can ? Take advantage of Disney’s catalogue of globally-known iconography to create a sort of universal sign language ?? It would be inventive and unique and striking and resonate with deaf ppl irl and it would hav been better in every conceivable way ..?? Head hurts
I think you're confusing "deaf" with "mute" here. Like, I know there is some overlap with the whole "not speaking" thing, but they are two *very* different afflictions. Starboy would have been mute, not deaf, since clearly he could hear the other characters talk.
@@bobbobbobbobbohhh right yeah, sorry. I meant to write that he could have been one of the kinds of deaf ppl that prefer not to speak. It would have made loads of opportunity for Asha to be the ‘visually expressive’ type they clearly really wanted her to be, in a way that didn’t feel clumsy and forced + Starboy gets an underrepresented reason for preferring to shapeshift than speak