Um... Did A.I Write Disney's Wish???
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2023
- Something doesn't feel right about Disney's latest Animated Feature film...
Disney's Wish was supposed to celebrate the company's 100 year anniversary, but it seems to take all the wrong lessons from the extensive history of Disney.
Today on the Writer's Block, let's dive into the 3 reasons Disney's Wish FEELS Like it was written by Artificial Intelligence...
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Which Animated Disney Film is your Favorite???
Not including Pixar, it’s probably a tie between Beauty And The Beast and Lilo And Stitch.
Including Pixar, Onward. (I know a lot of people say Onward wasn’t a good Pixar movie, but I really like it. But then, I’m extremely socially anxious and into DnD, so I’m kind of exactly the target audience. 😅)
@thatonepossum5766 all great picks! Even onward! I love that movie. I think people might have been burnt out on pixar when it released, but its a stellar film that can stand up with the og pixar flix
Probably Mulan, although I'm still a fan of Robin Hood. It's difficult to pick just one or two.
probably The Emperor’s New Groove rn
The Hunchback of Norte Dame. The music is intense and beautiful. The villain is terrifying, the plot is dark and so is the villain’s song (Hellfire is the best villain song Ever), the side characters serve a purpose (though the gargoyles could have been better if they were just a figment of Quasimodo’s imagination).
Imagine writing an story SO BAD that people thinks an human is incapable of doing this bad
thats deep
Its more like the movie is so generic that no one thinks someone capable of expressing human emotions could make it
@@hansolobutimdead Look up what a bell curve is. Not everything is going to be revolutionary. Though, I will agree with Disney, and other similar companies, we should expect high quality.
Exactly because it is so bad, I'd give credit to humans
Untalented hacks who were hired because of their identity rather than their ability trying to copy whatever came before them
@@korinoriz Look, even the trash bootleg mario games from the appstore have SOME personality. Sure, anyone can make one really quickly and with almost no effort, but its Something.
Honestly the original concept was so much better than the final product from what I’ve heard. We could have gotten a magical star boy! A cute romance with him and Asha and a married villain couple!! The queen was also supposed to be evil!! I want my mute shapeshifter star boy!
Sounds like it would have been rad
Can't have evil women in Disney movies these days, only in the Disney company itself. 😂
@@c0d3warriorFunny, because most of Disney’s most iconic villains are women and have always been women.
@@andreabanuelosavila2317I mean, Scar, The Horned King, Gaston, Captain Hook etc?
@@Jpragerbut the gender of the villain often matches the gender of the protagonist. I.e. Hercules, Aladdin, Peter Pan, Simba... The Princess centered/Disney Classic ones are different ie, Maleficent, evil stepmothers in Snow White and Cinderella, Cruella DeVille, Ursula... I dunno I don't think the gender of the villains is an issue.
props to disney for giving the writers a giant break for their 100 year anniversary
Cackled aloud-
LMAO
Well, they went on strike
@@stalebiscuit8516 same bro
Maybe the writers' strike is what made Disney try to use AI for the movie? Hopefully this flop will convince them to never do it again (although looking at their live actions, this won't happen).
12:26 The first time I saw Tangled, I missed the prologue. I will ALWAYS adamantly believe that this made my viewing experience better. I didn't know about the flower, the magic, the kidnapping, any of it - enjoyed it immensely. Finding out the story as it unfolded was a thousand times better than just being told up front what everything was - being shown through the imagery of the missing princess, Gothel's odd behavior, Gothel having Rapunzel use her power at the start to make her younger, etc. was so so so much better than the narrated "here's what you missed on Glee" segment.
Well damn, now I *Wish* I can forget about the entire plot of Tangled so that I can rewatch it after skipping the prologue, cuz that sounds like a really fun experience. I love it when stories have these hidden foreshadowing moments that eventually builds up to reveal the twist. And then the second time you experience the story, you get that moment of "holy shit, it was right there from the start!"
CjTheX has a video on this its really interesting @@liu7052
It's kinda like watching a Columbo episode and purposefully skipping the intro murder scene.
I did this with almost every Disney movie (on accident) and it's such a better experience in general. It creates the foreshadowing and plotwist that they lack
Ive never heard that critique of Tangled before but its right on the money.
The fact that it most likely has human writers but it FEELS like it was done with a.i is additionally embarrassing......
I support the writers strike that happened but at the same time I feel like some of them deserve the pay they get because of how bad something is written
@@Aspect_of_the_idiot Based
@@Aspect_of_the_idiot if it is entirely the fault of the writers i sorta agree. however, i wonder how often these results are because of higher-ups pushing for unrealistic deadlines, demanding certain things in the plot, not understanding what is needed for writers to flourish etc
@@Aspect_of_the_idiot This movie is proof to whichever side is right. If it was written by people, then they deserve to be replaced. If it was AI, the writers have proven their point.
There's a reason some people get referred to as NPCs.
It scare me if Disney used AI to write Wish but It scare me even more if Disney didn’t
Same like wtf was this movie
It's so sad this is so true
It's a losing battle
😂😂😂😂
I don’t think anyone could’ve put it better than that💀
The diversity in Wish is particularly egregious after Encanto absolutely nailed it. A diverse multitacial family of 12, featuring hispanic, black, northern european and mixed race individuals, represented well across both genders. It served more than just meeting a quota. It made the family feel alive and real. It was every bit an excellent example of what diversity can bring to a story's narrative and worldbuilding.
And then we get Wish.
yk in encanto they’re all Colombian. just Columbia is very diverse so it’s afro-latino not black. And europeans colonized colombia so their blood is very prominent. they’re all hispanic technically girl/all mixed😭 but i 100% agree with you!
@@xoxmerelyn1316 I'm a latino, i'm not black or anything but I don't like the term "afro-latino" but it's a problem that I have in general.
Like, why is so important remark that someone is black? Why can they just be latino without the afro? They aren't something different to white people, idk, is so weird to me have to remark something so silly to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Average_.AceAttorneyFan I'm white European, but I DO know the answer. It's often used for demographic and cultural purposes. Some people find that it's important to mention the fact they're a black Latino. They're absolutely not different and we're all human, but skin color can impact one's life, culture, and the like, depending on social things like racism. It's hard to explain, but white and black Latinos are still treated differently. Afro-Latinos usually experience worse racism. That racism can turn to strength in unity, which inspires pride in their identity, leading to usage of these specific terms. It's good to be proud and have a label.
Hope this helps-- I know I wrote this in a complicated way, but I'm trying to explain it thoroughly.
@@valkyrie8467 Yeah but I haven't seen any actual latino use that term and that maybe is because us, latinos doesn't cara about that kind of thing and the racism towards black people is not something very common and even being kind of a joke between us but I get that in coutrys like US the racism is really strong and somebody sees necesary call themselfs like that.
I think is kind of racism having so many terms just to say that someone is black and from a region, like, I think is unnecesary the afro-latino bc for us race is not important and you are a latino despite your skin tone of something like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Average_.AceAttorneyFan It's still often used for distinction. There are many different types of Latinos and ethnic groups in Latin America, so it's useful in identification and demographics. These things still exist everywhere, even if they're uncommon. It's not really racist to have a term for someone of a specific variation of Latino, especially since so many different Latino ethnicities exist (Dominican, Caribbean, etc.). Specifics are important, especially to one's culture, depending on their ethnicity. It's important to specify, to some- especially since the Latino label is so diverse!
My school is incredibly diverse (I'm Northeastern American) and there are a TON of Latino and Hispanic people. It's a majority Latino school. Even in here, it's important for some to mention- every culture is different, and some cultures find value in the term while others don't.
Magnifico should have been either of two things :
- A Missguided good person, wanting to help his people but not understanding how wrong it might be to strip them of their ambition and then guided back to help them accomplish their wishes in their own power.
- A straight up old school villain, who wants to control everyone's wish to force them to serve him, or to drain their "wishpower" to make it his own, and therefore should be defeated so people keep their independance.
Here, they basically wrote him as a person who think is doing the right thing, but gets triggered by one single defiance and decided to say "Well screw you, evil time" just like that.
EXACTLY!!!! Also his people, who once loved him, started questionling his authority, and he felt that his comfort of his people beliving him was disapearing, so he took drastic measures! It is OBVIOUSLY not written by AI!
bruh he is literally the good guy in my eyes because the "protagonist" is selfish and defies magnifico's rule for no apparent reason other than her opinion, then convinced his people to turn against him even tho he did nothing wrong
The thing is we actually got exactly what you just described with the first villain type mixed with a little bit of the second type. Only difference is that instead of telling them "Oh no! poor thing! Here's some hot chocy to calm your nerves!" They actually held him accountable for his horrible crimes. The people of Rosas tried to reason with him, but he was so far gone that there was simply no saving him.
You say he became evil just like that as if it was too sudden when in reality the movie showed him gradually descend into madness from the very start. The red flags were shown throughout the whole movie. His biggest red flag before he went batsh1t insane was when Asha tried to compromise by asking to give the ungranted wishes back (perfectly reasonable given the fact they're never going to be granted anyway which the whole reason people even gave their wish was in the hopes of it being granted) after which Magnifico responded by lashing out at her by saying *!!!HE DECIDES WHAT EVERYONE DESERVES!!!*
And might I add, this was during Asha's interview which was pretty close to the start of the movie, so there is really no excuse for saying it was sudden when he was showing his true colors from the start and gradually became more and more insane as more and more people started looking through his BS.
There is something inherently wrong when one person gets to decide who gets to live their dream and who doesn't when in reality that should be left to the people to work towards themselves. I understand people willingly gave their wish, but that doesn't change the fact that there is something really messed up with a society that is okay with giving up the very essence of their souls and forgetting about it in the hopes that one day someone else MIGHT grant it. Magnifico of all people should have known that's messed up and yet, here we are.
Him willingly casting away his last bit of humanity and benevolence by embracing the dark magic was simply the final nail on the coffin. The people of Rosas couldn't just forgive him as he showed no remorse for his actions. Even going as far as playing the "after all I did for you" card. Even though he just tried to destroy and enslave Rosas. Risking the lives of many.
As he showed no remorse, he would just try it all over again if they actually freed him, which could end in a catastrophe.
He had good intentions. Honorable even. Unfortunately he went about it the wrong way. The movie teaches 2 things:
1.That no matter how good a ruler's intentions may be, their ego, narcissism and spitefulness can negatively impact society. Not to mention he clearly had a God complex. His song makes it obvious that he believes he's totally infallable, which is false. People like Magnifico are simply not fit to rule as they are some of the most dangerous people to be in a position of power.
2. Instead of placing your hopes and dreams in the hands of others, you should strive to work towards it yourself.
The second message of the movie is Walt Disney's vision ever since Disney's conception. Siding with Magnifico means you're also rejecting Walt's legacy which has been 100 years in the making. It's an insult to everything Walt has labored to build. Damn shame people don't realize that.
@@aaronhernandez7268 not only is Asha Selfish, shes naive and an spoiled opportunist brat.
Shes 17 years old and Magnifico didnt grant her apprentice job or title. And she asks a favor from Magnifico to grant her 100 year old grandfathers wish before she even got the job or did anything. And when she gets to be 18 years old she can offer her wish.
Meaning shes STEALING TWO WISHES free of charge
My favorite theory is that Asha's wish changed King Magnifico, because that was the only was the shining wish demon could grant her wish.
I find it ironic that, the classic fairytale lesson of: "be careful what you wish for" is completely disregarded in Wish, the 100th anniversary movie from Disney
It's like it was written by a ten year old kid, saying " if I can't have everything I want, that's not fair!"
@@chriswhite2151 coincides with the political leanings Disney has
@@mooredaxonliterally every human being ever is selfish, not just one political side.
@@mooredaxonthe only politics Disney cares about is $$$, they don’t care about diversity, sexuality, or whatever. If it tests good enough to bring people in to see/buy it, they’ll use it.
I could see its potential, it could have been a lesson about ambition and not being too complacent as well as being content with what you have and careful what you wish for… and then layers of several story settings in depth. BUTT, The Puss in Boots Last Wish already delivered that story! Story writing.. is regressing at this point.
Is there even a theme and are all details connecting back to that theme?
Fun fact about that Nemo comparison. The opening scene was planned to be a flashback for much later in the film, serving as a big reveal for why marlin is so overprotective. When test screening, audiences didn’t like marlin and seeing an explanation didn’t help because they already formed their opinion on him. So, the flashback was moved to the start of the film to show audiences why he’s such an anxious parent.
That's awesome I didn't know that. Also shows how much better (not that it would fix everything) Wish would have been if we set the stuff up with her dad at the beginning
That reminds me of Memento, where audiences mostly left theatres under the impression that the cop lied about how the main character’s wife died despite the authorial intent of the cop telling the truth that the wife wasn’t murdered, and the theory is that’s because we spend the whole movie seeing the main character reading and rereading the same note that says not to trust the cop, which convinces most people to also not trust the cop.
Do they even do test screening nowadays???
I still don't like Marlin.
@@fabiofuocoWell this proves that they need that again!
I never realized the lack of men of color in disney films ( though i have avoided all live action films, and the more recent disney films). but holy fuck thats a huge shock honestly.
I can only think of four main protagonists, not secondary characters: Mowgli, Aladdin, Kusco, and Kenai.
Prince Naveen as well, he's the secondary main character in the Princess and the Frog, even if he's not the main lead
@@RambunctiousMouse Yeah, I know that, but I only listed the male leads, not the secondary characters.
@@cthonisprincess4011 Ah, I see. Sorry, I guess I misread your comment and misunderstood 😅 thanks for clearing that up
@@cthonisprincess4011 Does Aladdin actually count? there some aspect of debate with people of middle eastern and Arabic decent, by some criteria, there seen as "White" for some reason, no one bats an eye about the Danny Thomas show being about a Lebanese entertainer with an Irish wife. it's weird that it's like that though. and Danny Thomas himself was of Lebanese heritage.
I feel like Magnifico's "villain" song alonehad some AI involved in it. There's no way a human being thought "I let you live here for free, and I don't even charge you rent" made sense. At least not someone who's supposed to be a professional screenplay writter.
I thought this line was specifically made to be funny, because when he tries to explain why he thinks the people are ungrateful he says the same argument (no rent) twice, which shows (for once shows not tells ) his lack of actual arguments and letting us see through his point of view. Also shows his praise obsession cause he literally wants to be thanked twice for the same thing.
@@ananas_6029 I haven't seen the movie, but from what I've heard his actual behavior that we're shown in the beginning doesn't show him to be all that villainous and then they kinda shoehorn a villain plot in
@@jneumy566 Well yes they do I was just explaining the lyrics
the song is from Magnifico's PoV. it could be a way to display how little he actually does (thus he has to repeat things to make it sound like he does more than he actually does).
this being said... that's just a theory
"Peep the name"
Not only is Mushu more than just a joke telling device, but the jokes he tells are actually funny
Dishonor on your cow!!!!
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial Crik-ee, write this down...
Exactly!
Mushu will forever be the best supporting disney character...and it was dishonorable that he wasn't in the remake
@@agentdon1760that was no remake
But rather a shambling corpse of previous greatness that may never be found again
as a spaniard, i can't shake the feeling that they did a lot of shallow and unimportant pandering instead of actual representation. why did they sell asha as an "afrolatina", a label that makes no sense in the balearic islands during the middle ages? why not create the first iberian princess? and represent moorish culture, and/or the Peoples of the Book cohabitation that was happening during that time? There's so much rep they could have done, so much untapped potential to explore.... and they went with a quirky, boring, cliché """""afrolatina""""" girl with nothing to do and a very shakey plot she participates in. I'm just so disappointed
Edit, for clarification: I don't care that she's black, there were black people in Iberia during the middle ages. My problem with that was the LABEL they used for advertising it, as "Afrolatina" is an anachronic term used for black latin americans, and she isn't from Africa nor from America. Secondly, I meant that her personality is cliché (following the clumsy quirky girl archetype created by Tangled), not the fact she's black and hispanic. Lastly, I don't mean to invalidate the people who relate to her or any character in this movie, all I mean is that us Spaniards love our history and we have a very complex history and culture of actual, real life cohabitation of Moors (muslims), Jews and Christians, and the middle ages in the Iberian peninsula have so much culture and cool shit to explore that they only glanced at and represented in the most superficial, subtle ways (as many commenters have stated, there's no way to know this is meant to be Iberia just by watching the movie).
We deserve better representation. SEA deserved better representation than Raya. We all deserve the same love and research that went into Encanto, Coco or Moana. We are asking for very little, it's just Disney doesn't care enough
The true problem with “””woke””” that no one addresses is how these big companies clearly don’t actually give a shit about representation. It’s just about checking boxes because white people aren’t the only ones who have money. I suppose the forced diversity better than not having it all, but it could be actually good instead.
I have the artbook. From what I've gathered, they did research into the region... but very surface-level research.
Not seen the movie yet but I agree with you as well. Why does Wish have to take place in the real world? They could have just made something up and not really have to go in depth just like Frozen and Tangled. They can be inspired by real life places and not have to worry with how people of those places looked like or act. You can give the excuse that "but it is just fantasy so it doesn't matter" crap but then why is Beauty and the Beast and Encanto a good representation of their land?
Reminds me on how they handled the "representation" in Raya and the Last Dragon. It feels so shallow and the movie doesn't feel Southeast Asian at all
Also a Spaniard and quite upset.
"You had the audacity to waste a perfectly good chris pine"
PREACH BRO!
We can always pick up more Pine Sol at the store
And you don’t even mention how sociopathic the Queen was. She supposedly loved her husband but then dropped him like a rock to a horrible fate. Like, she didn’t even try to save him at all
It’s a rather ugly portrayal of a marriage. The movie acts like they’re in love and that she cares but then at the end she’s like, “tee hee, you’re stuck in a mirror and I get to be the undisputed ruler!” Like, are we sure she’s not a psychopath who can’t feel love or something?
@@Nightman221k, I know. Seriously!
@@Nightman221k It's an insight into the narcissism of the writers. "You did one thing I disagree with? Well, that's it then, I don't love you, you're no longer human. Canceled!"
@@Nightman221kI think the old version would’ve been better, where the queen and king were evil. Now we REALLY get to see some interesting plot (if of course it wasn’t horribly made too)
@@EpicPlayer1XD Nah, only villains allowed now are either male or "trauma." That's also why they're rebranding their old villainesses to actually have been good people traumatized to be evil.
I'd be surprise to learn Disney actually used AI, but I think disney is focusing so much on commercial and formula that it is essentially trying to write a story the same way an AI would, by reproducing things that already were made mixing them together and handing out a product that is lesser than what it is imitating.
The ridiculous thing is so much of GOOD art is formulaic too. Like, the human species figured out how to do storytelling thousands of years ago. All itt takes to make something NOT feel like ai made it is a little bit of heart/soul. Ideally, you have someone putting a part of themselves into the project from the very beginning. But AT THE VERY LEAST it's not that hard to come in at the end and add a little sauce. Look at Crazy Rich Asians. That movie is as standard/formulaic of a rom-com as it gets. But the creative team and actors really cared about what they were doing and brought parts of themselves to the project, which is why it connected with people the way it did
Disney posted an AI generated Thanksgiving image btw. And it looks horrifying but they still posted it. I know an Instagram post isn't the same as a whole movie but they are at least publicly not against AI and have been caught using it
It's how Disney has been making movies the last several years. Everything did about Wish also applies to Disney Star Wars and the recent Marvel movies and the recent Disney shows.
@@Sylvershadeafter phase 1 of marvel they found a winning formula and stuck to it
@@ImmaLittlePip Perhaps too hard, to the point of forgetting the soul
I like that when it comes to diversity you don't say it's bad but that Disney is depicting it in mostly women not men! Refreshing to hear
Exactly! The reason I love storytelling and art is because you can see diverse ideas, people, and experiences represented. The problem isn't studios like Disney being more diverse. It's that their diversity is biased in certain directions, making it feel artificial or like a form of Tokenism. A movie like wish feels cold and corporate in its representation, whereas Encanto feels truly authentic and clearly comes from a place of love.
@TheWritersBlockOfficial Yeah, I haven't seen Wish, but Encanto is also how a lot of Latine families are... when I came to the US I found it confusing just seeing everyone separate ppl by race so much. Ofc it's not perfect where I'm from (Puerto Rico), but the division between race isn't like it is in the US.
@@TheWritersBlockOfficialThank you so much for mentioning Encanto! You can tell the company took a lot of care to do research on Colombia and were very selective about how they included parts of the inspiration (One Hundred Years of Solitude) They yellow butterflies, Bruno's little nod in his telenovelas, the secure, secluded town with a nebulous timeline. Each of the characters is onscreen and shown enough that we get a good glimpse of who they are, and there's enough going on in the background that we can build so much about the town from context clues throughout the movie. Tt's wonderfully done and that's part of the reason it's my favorite modern Disney movie!
@Crazyashley42 i think what works so well is the movie isnt trying to represent too big of a group. Its specifically a single community and is very detailed and thorough in its depiction. As a result, MORE people can find something to attach to or feel represented by. Another Lin Manuel Miranda project, in the heights, takes a similar approach and likewise achieves a similar effect
i agree but also its nice to reliably have somewhere you can see a lot of female leads in a male driven market. still should actually get a femake director if they really care about diversity, sure its nice seeing women in power in fiction but they have the ability to do that in real life
I have a theory that wish was a test done by Disney to see how much they could get away with ai replacing.
The answer is they can’t. If Disney would go back to what made them Disney in the first place they would have a better reputation. Yeah, they still make money off the garbage they’ve been producing, but these things aren’t just about making a quick buck. These stories follow people for generations and can accumulate more wealth over time. Just look at the cult followings for Treasure Planet, The Black Cauldron, The Emperor’s New Groove, Home on the Range, etc. All those movies didn’t make what was projected at the box office, but they have massive cult followings and if Disney did something with them today, they’d be a success. It’s a shame that Disney doesn’t see its own value, and that’s where the problem stems from.
I wonder if Dreamworks caught whiff of this movie and that's why they made The Last Wish... That movie told a better message about wishes and nailed a 2D + 3D style mesh in such a charming way.
People in the industry do talk to each other, so it wouldn’t be surprising if there was some discussion about plot points, names, etc, but it could’ve also been a coincidence since both plots are vastly different. Similar art styles for both films make me suspicious though.
@tiahnarodriguez3809 in detail they're not similar plot-wise, but in having the plot revolve around wishes and a star that comes down, it seems real likely that general setup traveled to other ears.
At the same time though, the sequel for Puss in Boots was already planned a while back right after the release of the first film, just that there were delays ever since so it feels like this was already long planned before they even knew about Wish.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 "Plots are vastly different" LMAO I can just imagine Dreamworks going like, "WTF?" when they read Disney's leaked script for Wish.
It hurts more knowing that even staff on the creative team have said on twitter that the team had a story that payed homage to classic Disney magic of storytelling, but so much was scrapped because of executives meddling, that it felt like a PR stunt than showing 100 years of magical storytelling
Is there anything from the original script available?
@@cosmicspacething3474 i havent seen much for script but ive heard of a few scrapped concepts that really would have made the film pop-
originally Star was actually going to be a shapeshifter! changing between a star and a magical floating boy! i dont know if he would shapeshift into anything else but allegedly it was changed for marketing- a cute star plushy being more sellable than a boy doll (which… they would have had both? if they kept the shapeshifter thing?? so silly)
and king magnifico and HIS WIFE!! THE QUEEN!! WOULD HAVE *BOTH* BEEN EVIL!! we could have had a villain power couple!!!!
@@qqqq9556 the queen also being evil wouldve been so cool. cause shes his wife shouldnt she know what kind of person that guy is? why is she allowing him to be evil etc
questions like that wouldve been erased if they just wouldve been both evil
@@buchstaben-suppe EXACTLY!! i like they way u think
@@qqqq9556 thank u :3
As far as the music goes, this is what happens when instead of hiring a theatre music composer, like disney ALWAYS has, you hire a literal pop music composer... Soulless, corporate, and shallow, and only has the purpose of being catchy and keeping up with trends.
That's why honestly I think you just stick with Lin Manuel Miranda for this type of thing. I know not everybody love his style, but he's thoroughly versed in the music and storytelling of theater, while also bringing a broader "pop" appeal with his work. Even the Greatest showman, which is one of the "pop-iest" musicals in quite some time, still focuses on storytelling in the musical numbers (even if that's more thanks to the director/cinematographer rather than Pasek and Paul)
Pop music is good on its own, but it doesn’t belong in movies and theater. That’s what we have theater music for!
What would the Sherman brothers think of this nonsense
Didn't know about it. But it explains A LOT!
Never seen such an anticlimactic score in a Disney movie.
Pop isn’t bad on its own, but it just doesn’t fit right here. It’s like hiring a pastry chef to make a Thanksgiving dinner
You can't change my mind that Magnifico is a good guy who got twisted by the writers to fit their agenda
They weren't necessarily written into a corner. They could have had Asha or whatever her name is come back, proven wrong, as she is naive like Anna.
That would be a good balance for a modern Disney movie, an antagonist, but not a villain
(Like Abuela from Encanto)
Or even better, have the corruption of power go to Asha, when she manages to move people in her favor?
Although that might be too controversial for Disney
Same, Magnifico and Hans feel like victims of bad writing.
Honestly, the thing that confuses me is why they specifically set it on a Mediterranean island. Like...why. That just makes me wonder where in the Mediterranean, what time period, what are the regional powers? How does Roasas fit into the expansion of the Ottomon Empire!? They so easily could have just put it in Fantasy Mc Fantasy Island with no specification at all.
I guess to justify why there is so much diversity, but if that's the case... why even put it on the real world? fantasy solves that instantly
Honestly, if it does turn out to be an A.I written script, it's kind of good news, since it's failure proves that audiences are more smart than the executives think
Failure doesn't mean squat for Disney, they're constantly being fed ESG money
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle not if i get involved
@@yapflipthegrunt4687bravo six, going dark
Sure they are, so smart that that they're still giving Disney money and publicity? If we treated Disney like gamers treat Sega Disney would have another golden age by next week but no matter what they do and what they shove down your throat everyone won't shut tf up. You either have bozos like these trying to make money off the controversy or people sucking Disney off anyways for the old stuff they've done 20+ years ago. If we all pretended Disney just didn't exist anymore, no more money, all of their products flopping, they'd turn shit around quick
Honestly AI generated content, especially when it comes to writing, is usually so easy to catch, I’d be a little impressed if they really tried to pull off an AI generated movie this early. Don’t know if I’d put it past a studio like Disney, but I’d be a little shocked
A 5 year old could tell someone why EVERYONE getting their wish is a bad idea. Not everyone wishes for good things, and sometimes what they think may be good is terrible. Has no one at Disney heard the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions?"
Disney wants us in the mindset of "being happy by having everything" so we can keep on gorging ourselves on everything they put out.
It would be like the villain has a point moment right?
Aladdin's Genie established three rules at the beginning and no one complained that they were "being oppressed"
they have a fair amount of people who operate on wishful thinking tbh.
@Cartoonicus Like in Wall-E
You know, I actually hear that the intro to Finding Nemo was a later decision. We weren’t gonna find out how Marlin’s family died until later in the film.
But they put that clip in the beginning so we wouldn’t hate Marlin for being so overprotective. That was a heck of a good call.
You made a really good point about the male characters not also being of color. I find that so interesting and I never noticed that before. I wonder why that is
might be since most people who advocate for more racially diverse characters (not all, most) are also feminists or women? Ngl i don't see many guys asking for this kind of thing
princess and the frog is by no means a perfect movie. but it feels like much more of a tribute to disney’s animated film legacy than wish does, 2d animation, it has wishing on a star, fairytale retelling with a twist, and while it has its issues you can definitely feel the passion of the writers behind it.
100% agreed.
It also has the classic Disney villain, and good music.
Dr facilier's song is such a banger.
I miss Disney's 2D movies
To me, is also the only meaningful case of Disney race swapping historical characters. Instead of making a German princess black for no explanation they reimagined the story to be set in 1920s New Orelands and it works perfectly well.
My favorite part of lazy scripts is when the writers realize the villain actually has a valid point, so they make him kick a puppy or something so we know he's evil.
And he didn't have to be a villain, but they decided to go with "too unredeemable to change" by making him use dark magic where it could not be reversed. That part pissed me the hell off when his wife just ABANDONED her husband in a jewel or whatever and shrugged him off in the end instead of being a good, faithful partner like she tried to be throughout the movie.
It reminds me of Santa Inc's approach to their villain.
For those unfamiliar, don't worry about spoilers cause it's horrible, but Santa Inc is about a female elf wanting to be Santa's successor and working hard to do so, trying to fit in with a "boy's club" corporate atmosphere in order to get the role. Day finally comes, she doesn't get it, and another white male is picked as Santa's successor. When confronted about this, Santa actually makes a super valid point: that the protagonist herself doesn't like kids and isn't a very jolly personality, so he could never in good conscience pick her as his successor. He instead decided he wanted her to be the "Vice Santa" behind the scenes because she's still terrific at running the company and doing the logistics, whereas the guy he chose as Santa himself was perfect to be the face of the company because he's good with kids and has that positive attitude, but bad at the logistics.
Santa concludes his speech by telling her she shouldn't let her ego get in the way of doing what's right, and that doing a good job is more important than the glory of being *the* Santa. Phenomenal, fantastic speech that honestly could've saved that series from being utter garbage and instead make it okay.
But no, what happens? She tells Santa to go f*** himself and then the finale proceeds to engage in character assassination of Santa, showcasing that he was puppy-kicking evil all along and it really WAS all just a move to keep her down!
*Point being:*
It's weird to me that today it feels like writers *don't* want the complex, thought-provoking villain and would actually prefer one who can only be described as "stupid evil," aka, they're evil in such a way that it can be downright nonsensical they behave this way. We actually have writers that prefer a black-and-white world where we encourage the audience to plug their fingers in their ears, chant "don't think about it" and demonize the villain as irredeemably evil, regardless of what they actually have to say.
@@Longknife Never heard of Santa Inc but that does sound exactly like what modern movies would do instead of having a main character grow and change throughout the story's progression.
@@Longknife I've never seen Santa Inc, but I just wanted to say thank you for writing this comment. It's a super valid point and very close to what I've been feeling towards modern shows and cinema. It's nice to know there are other people who care about story and character motivations who are frustrated with the same stuff I am
Jojo refrence?
here's a chatgpt version:
(Verse 1)
In the shadows, where the darkness thrives,
I concoct my schemes where no light arrives.
With a twisted grin, and a heart of black,
I'll turn your dreams into a nightmare track.
(Chorus)
Wishes, oh wishes, they're so divine,
But I'll twist and turn them, make them mine.
Your hopes, your dreams, I'll make them fall,
In the depths of my darkness, you'll lose it all.
(Verse 2)
I'll lure you in with promises sweet,
But beware, my dear, for I cheat and I cheat.
For every wish you utter, every desire you speak,
I'll warp it, twist it, leave you weak.
(Chorus)
Wishes, oh wishes, they're such fools' gold,
In my hands, they crumble, they're bought and sold.
Your heart's deepest longings, your most fervent plea,
In the end, they all belong to me.
(Bridge)
I dance in the moonlight, I revel in glee,
As I shatter your wishes, your spirit, your glee.
For in this dark symphony, I am the star,
I'll extinguish your light, no matter how far.
(Chorus)
Wishes, oh wishes, they're my game to play,
In the end, you'll regret what you wished for today.
Your innocence, your trust, I'll shatter it all,
In the chilling echoes of my villainous call.
(Outro)
So heed my warning, and heed it well,
In the realm of wishes, I cast my spell.
For I am the villain, the darkness, the dread,
And in your dreams, I'll reign supreme instead.
I feel like ChatGPT is better than the original..
ChatGPT rhymes glee with glee, it has the same redundancy the original had
@@cheaproot ya..but I srsly hate the original song😞😞
I'll be honest... when he said there's a diversity issue I got very scared he'd be one of those youtubers that hates to see diversity in Disney movies. I was so relieved when it wasn't what I thought and SHOCKED that I hadn't noticed the male diversity issue before!!! Anyway, thanks The Writer's Block for delivering such a well-rounded, thoughtful and critical review
Happy to!
My 'problem' with 'diversity' is perfectly encapsulated by Wish. The characters are 'diverse' in a paint by numbers fashion, and subsequently, they are not actual characters, nor are they diverse beyond a superficial level.
What's the point of representation if the characters are bland as stale oatmeal?
as someone who only came across a review of this movie to just after it realize the reviwer was THAT kinda person (which completely made me double think everything said and oh boy it was shattered so hard), and refused to even start the next one i found because i saw they had one other review with a slightly suspicious premise (i really wanted to make sure i wouldnt fall for giving ears to someone who has a breakdown over having wheelchaired wizards in your rpg (im not even kidding the 1st 1 did exactly that. like wtf whos forcing you to put ur char in a wheelchair?) i felt ya frfr like wtf
My problem is that no one seemed to have anything driving them before the conflict hit. Mulan wanted to be a good daughter, tiana wanted her restaurant, and Rapunzel wanted to see the lights. They all had a dream before the conflict. I have NO CLUE what asha wanted
fr
Kinda like real women.
@@bigbadwolf3199literally what 💀 that’s an animated girl are you stupid?
@@bigbadwolf3199dude
@@bigbadwolf3199Your lack of game and charisma isn’t the woman’s fault. Get well soon
Tiana had an entire scene to show us how her relationship with her father shaped her motivations and wishes, and shaped her as a person entirely. It's crazy that the same studio produced this pile of goo for this big of a milestone. It's embarrasing.
I’m so confused? Wish was a good movie why is everyone hating on it so much???
@@Unknown_individual_561 because it wasn't good. Hope this helped
@@gracemustvebeenhere did you watch it before looking at the critics or did you try to be like everyone else?
@@Unknown_individual_561 i saw it before reading any reviews. came out the theater with the same ideas most reviewers had. its poorly written. but if you like poorly written movies, theres nothing wrong with that. i like some very bad movies.
@@hanimallover1 ok 👍 i don’t like poorly written movies I’m just confused and i was asking a question.
This video made me realize why Wish has been bothering me so much: Its because I REALLY want to like King Magnifico. On paper he has potential!! The first villain in a LONG time to be a TRUE Disney villain? Sign me up, I grew up with Scar for crying out loud! When I first starting hearing about Wish before we started seeing the cracks, he seemed like he was gonna be cool! A powerful king with the ability to grant wishes? A king who is beloved by his kingdom but hides a dark secret? Hell yeah, I'm all for that trope! And then I heard This is The Thanks I Get and all of my hopes were SHATTERED. He's not a grand, classic Disney villain....he's.....a poor man's shoddy attempt to mash the classics together with an attempt at a pop song slapped on him......
My theory was that the writer's wanted payback after the pre-strike and strike mayhem.
They knew the higher-ups wouldn’t ACTUALLY read the damn thing. They'd read the basic summary, check for anecdotal references to past projects, and whether they were being "inclusive enough." Basically, a checklist.
- decent concept ✅️
- references ✅️
- "diversity" ✅️
So they put that in, made it all SUPER easy to find to allow for the laziest skimming possible, and compiled the worst Disney had to offer as a giant middle finger to their company for their anniversary 😂😊🎉
i want this to be true
At this point, I feel the smartest move for Disney would be to move back to book based movies. Like, they cannot create originals anymore…
It is a disaster
It's funny how most of their famous hits are mostly stories taken from other people and changed around lol
They ran out of books 😅 and also those books are not inclusive enough anyways so unless you want them to change up the stories like they are doing with Snow White again it’s best they keep doing original trash that will bomb
Come to think of it, the fact they've been just redoing someone else's work already says something about Disney, even if not much.
Seems even book based adaptations are getting screwed up by writers who, probably don't even read the source material.
The "show dont tell" has been an ongoing issue in media, especially kids media. Like in toy story, you see woody putting together a plan to get buzz stuck behind the dresser. He doesnt say anything, but he looks from thing to thing, implying a plan. If that were made today, they would have come up with a way to just immediately explain it.
The reason this is so problematic is not only because it makes for just very poor visual storytelling- but it also doesn't help develop that connect-the-dots function in kids brains. Its not helping them learn how to read between the lines, or take context clues
Not just kids media, unfortunately. I was watching the cutscene movie for ff16, same problem
Well, movies shouldn't be relied upon to teach childen much of anything. It's nice when they do though.
It is also annoying when they just explain something they could show better, but it's probably so dumb people like me can understand it. I have to ask people to explain their jokes to me more than normal.
@@adamofblastworks1517 it's just like.. a missed opportunity. Especially since so many kids are just left to watch movies for way too long every day now :/
@@libbykeppel1090 it definitely is a missed opportunity.
@adamofblastworks1517 Well, that's what stories are for tho, to bring context to our lives and the people and things around us. The problem now is that we don't tell stories to teach, entertain, or help each other understand. We create them only to make money, that's why so many are bad. They have no purpose
How about this ending. The girl, in the end, realizes she was a rude peace of crap. That not every time you wish for something you will get it. So then plot twist the girl realizes that she was the villain all along. That the king was really a good king but she just couldnt see that because she was blinded by selfishness towards her own family. Then in the end play the song "You cant always get what you want." That would be a 10/10 ending. 😂 In all seriousness they should have made her realize she is wrong so that there is a valuable lesson.
"But dear child, not every wish needs to be granted. Your grandfather wanted to influence the young generations--and here you are. He made his own wish come true. You are his finest song, his powerful legacy."
8:44 Fir a second I was like “what does an evil moth pimp have to do with this?”
Same
I think a much better plot would've been some kind of "be careful what you wish for" story. Perhaps Asha could've succeeded in dethroning Magnifico halfway through the movie and granted everyone's wishes, but then there would be tons of unintended consequences. Maybe those who wish for wealth wreck the economy, those who wish for giant homes end up crushing nearby buildings as their houses grow, all sorts of chaos even without malice and evil wishes. Then, Asha would get Magnifico's help to undo the wishes and return things to the way they're shown at the start of the movie, which is actually super good. Asha would learn that her original ideal was harmful and have a real character arc. And Magnifico could have an arc where he learns that being more transparent with the kingdom about what he does with their wishes and why, maybe establishing a council of several people who determine how helpful or harmful everyone's wishes would be, and maybe people who are rejected can get a chance later on to make a new wish, rather than be denied any wish at all.
We could still get an improvement in their society by helping the people who are denied their wishes without the start needing to be very problematic, all the main characters can get arcs and learn, and we could have a twist good guy instead of a boring villain.
Boom, a random CZcams commenter came up with a better plot ! Why do they find it so hard to come up with this ?
NO NO NO
A twist that give depth to the story the only twist that should be allowed are the ones for villains
Not a chance they would allow the white man be helpful to the PoC woman, not now anyway. They had to have a puppy kick in the movie to even make Magnifico seem like a bad guy in the first place, they were determined to make him bad.
@@thewallachianbard6975 tbh this is literally bruce allmighty, just animated. he grants all prayers with 1 enter key and has to deal with the shit ppl prayed for the rest of the movie
@@betelgeux6010 Aw I loved that movie as a kid
What's even scarier than Disney putting out such a brainless movie is how many people are still out there going "It was such a cute movie! My kids loved it! There's too much hate for it."
Like... consumers have actually been trained to be braindead. It's scary AF.
I’d be more forgiving if it were a smaller company with a minute budget. No one would care. But this is Disney and even worse their 100th anniversary! Yikes!
Tbh it's consumers who support anything.
@@darkzeroprojects4245 That's why I watched a cam. :)
People can have their own opinions, at least they actually saw it, unlike a lot of the people who are bashing it
The people who say that stuff usually aren’t so bright in the first place. They often aren’t the of deepest thinkers which leads them to be so easily manipulated. It’s not all consumers but you’re totally right that there are too many people who can’t critically think.
One thing I see people not mention is that Magnifico, at one point, signals to a partially burnt map of Rosas he's got hung up on the wall while mentioning something along the lines of "we don't want something like this to happen again" to his wife... and then it's never brought up again. That single piece of dialogue gave me hope that there would be a twist villain, or a sort-of consequence to having all wishes granted, but none of that happened. The whole premise and story of the movie just felt... empty.
"HAHA! See? You have to give up your dreams to be a part of corporate America! But wait, like, you'll totally be fine anyway because it's designed for your benefit? Uh or is it?" brilliant symbolism, Disney
It's rather ironic that Walt Disney, in his earliest career, favoured cel animation, experimented on it, and then persuaded the company he worked in to switch to it from cut-out animation (which was the common medium of animated media in that era) because he found the big appeal on it despite it requiring more workload and cost, only to have Disney's 100th anniversary celebrated by a feature film that is suspected to have its writing automated.
tbh Walt deserves a sullied legacy. Now I'd love for a better company to shake off Disney's tentacle suckers that are apparently indented in everything.
As if thats ever gonna happen. Disney is the big money, nobodies gonna go against them@@cedar4539
@@cedar4539 wouldn't be sure about that, he was smeared and lied a lot about even in his day
@@TonySandManthe things that are true about him are bad enough, no need to lie about him.
@@captivecat5858 like what?
Man. People so often complain that Disney gives male characters diverse body types and facial features more often than female that I didn't even notice how egregious the lack of skin color and ethnic representation was for the guys. It's like they want all female lead characters to be pretty but will concede in coloration/ethnicity, yet want all male lead characters to have different silhouettes with no change in coloration/ethnicity. The closest we've gotten is Naveen and he's from an imaginary country! And if you count Disney shorts, John Henry. Good grief! Guess we can't have a stout main girl or a dark-skinned main boy.
And you have to go back to the hand-drawn animation era to find Disney’s last villain of color in Dr. Facilier.
Yep. I've noticed this growing up. It's part of why I've become disillusioned to Disney.
I would class Moana and Mirabel as a lil bit more stout than the rest, but I do still agree with your point.
you clearly forget Junglebook or Aladdin
@@SnackAttackJackthey’re both lightskinned though
Your criticism about men of colour being represented is VERY TRUE, I haven't seen any males really except The prince from princess and the frog
as a person writing a show myself, I think we should change "show, don't tell" to "actions speak louder than words", personally. I wouldn't mind them saying "I heard all his apprentices get their wishes granted" instead of seeing it if it's a rumor that goes around, or if you also immediately turn it into a silly joke where a guy with something that was very clearly a wish (eg a giant chicken) walks by and goes "I'm so glad I got to apprentice with king magnifico!". thats funny. I have a character in my show that has the general character arc of looking for a job. I had her be in one interview in one season, but because this is an independent show I make in my parents' attic, we only have one "office" set, so instead of having her look for jobs like that all the time, she occasionally asks a place she deems interesting or that she might have qualifications for if they're looking for new hires. that's very much "telling" but its also an action.
I also don't really mind telling instead of showing, on occasion; you just can't have only one or only the other. there's a reason we have I want songs, instead of I want dances or action sequences. sometimes being told "this is what I want" is better. wish does it terribly anyways, but putting the blame on the fact its dialogue instead of visual isn't the right issue; the dialogue could have been different, the lyrics to the I want song could have actually said something, etc.
The more I watch Wish reviews, the more I see that Starkid’s Twisted the Musical was a better love letter to classic Disney (and wishing) than Disney ever could.
Finally a video of mine seems to be connecting with an audience that cares about musicals! Why won't the youtube algorithm just let me make non-stop Mama Mia Analysis videos :(
Seriously! The use of wishes in Twisted was so well done and there was clearly love put into the creation of the play from everyone involved, from the writers to the actors themselves. Disney should’ve put more care into it.
Seriously twisted was the best Disney musical I've ever seen
Oh man, I don’t know how I didn’t know this was a thing! I have to check it out
SO TRUE
I can't get over the fucking premise. So you're telling me that the "bad guy" grants wishes that he thinks are good and helpful, and makes people who have evil or selfish wishes forget them, making them better people as a result. And this is supposed to be the actions of a vile dictator?
One could make the argument that authoritarian leaders act in symbolically similar ways. By removing agency of their people, and deciding for them what is good or helpful, and what is selfish or bad.
Where this argument appears to fall apart, though, is that this practice is, ostensibly, voluntary. He doesn't have the desire, or power, to grant every wish, but he can remove the feelings of failure and/or the frustration of being unable to achieve your dream from those would couldn't.
Red Scare was one helluva drug, he'd have prolly been called a commie back in the day
The point was supposed to be that he was overly anxious about what could be considered a "threat", so he saw nearly every wish as a potential threat to the kingdom, making him a control freak. To the film's credit Asha, the queen and the citizens try to get through to him but he doubles down and gets worse as the film goes on because he's unable to give up control. It feels like an ironically adequate representation of what happened to this movie. Disney sticking to its rigid formulas instead of letting the creatives on board do something, well, creative, created a technically correct but soul-less product.
And I mean... if you forgot that you wanted something unobtainable, you don't get disappointed when you don't get it, right? At this point, I'd probably hand mine over.
I haven't seen this movie, but from the video I think it's more like: someone wishes that they could fly. The king sees this as an unobtainable wish, so he never grants it. He doesn't realize that this wish that HE sees as unobtainable could he obtainable ie: inventing hot air balloons, jetpacks, airplanes, etc. The moral, I think, is that with enough creativity a wish can come true, even if it seems impossible, and if that is what your heart truly desires, you should go for it even if everyone puts you down for it. And don't put down others for their dreams cuz what seems impossible to you might very well be possible in someone else's hands.
Idk if the movie actually goes into all that and shows examples or if that even is the real moral that they're going for.
Thank you! I felt like, something was missing, but I couldn't tell what. You hit a point.
MORE!?!!
love the video!
Also I played Bumble is theater class, that line is surprisingly hard to get
100 year anniversary. You’d think they’d want to make it something extra special and memorable. They should have been working on a film for like the last decade. This honestly feels like someone trying to finish up a last minute project they forgot about until the night before.
Something like Fantasia
wish is special for them
@@NiaArifah-br6cr for them and nobody else lmao
I think making an anti-fascist movie in these times is bold and a great way to value signal
its so bad that it will be remembered for ages to come
AI or not, Disney is putting in less effort in order to lower your standards. Don't let them get away with this. Demand the high standard you know they're capable of.
or just stop giving them money
Lmao what are you yapping about. It has nothing to do with "standards". What's the point of lowering standards if the budget is nearly twice as much as their older films? That doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to make a low budget movie then they would just do that. The fact is, it's that they lack talent. You can't even blame Disney as a company any more, the writers themselves are just BAD. They have zero talent or experience.
One of the writers for this movie has only ever worked on TV shows made for babies, and another one has never worked on any animation ever. Back in the 90s the writers used to work on comic books, storyboards, screenplays, for years before they were allowed to touch a 200 million dollar production like this. The animation department was always working WITH the writers, instead of now where they are completely separate.
@@amazin7006 Who hires the writers? Do you really think Disney doesn’t know they’re hiring garbage? The budget’s high, but that doesn’t mean they’re not lowering the standard. They’re trying to get consumers comfortable with the slop they can get out of any old writer, because that’s the only part of the process that they have to put effort into any more. For everything else they can just throw money at it.
@@gabhug9338 just read reviews? That, or pirate every new Disney movie. People watching on streaming is exactly what I’m talking about, it’s a lowering of standards in consumers due to the platform. Unsubscribe from Disney+, stop buying cinema tickets, and read reviews to find out how Disney is failing you as a consumer with each new movie. You gotta remember Disney gets the money passively from you being on their streaming platform.
they speak money@@gabhug9338 and be can get change if we speak to them in their language
"Cruel!" 5:36
My history teacher made us watch Oliver Twist for homework. I don't remember much of it but i loved it. And, yes, everyone was so *cruel* to Oliver
thank you for making me remember just how amazing Tarzan was 👌👌👌
Anytime
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial this video aint paying you bills for much longer
What?
@@jilp2002 huh
The sad thing is... DIsney has worked with people who 100% nail "show don't tell." Up's first 15 minutes is nothing but "show don't tell" and I've yet to meet someone who doesn't comprehend everything that happens and glean the full impact of it. Then, they did a double punch of perfect "show don't tell" at the end when he turns the page in Ellie's scrapbook.
Are we then to extrapolate that modern Disney thinks its audience is stupid and unable to figure out what’s happening unless details are force-fed to them?
@@Ironcabbitconsidering the uptick in tiktoks of someone narrating what is going on in a movie scene or some irl event, yes. Media literacy is dying
@@enyalim1535 HAHA, this reminds me of a short I wasted my time on that basically attempted to "explain" why "variant loki was taken by the TVA" and he plays a small clip from a scene where variant loki mentions being taken by the TVA and then says a bunch of nonsense words, then plays a few seconds BEFORE that scene where the character straight up explains what led to his capture, AND THEN spends another bit of time restating everything he said. The entire comments section was bashing how pointless the short was.
Finding Nemo's original screenplay had the barracuda scene about half way through the movie as a flashback/memory. Nobody liked it because it made Marlon look like a complete jerk for no reason, even for the remainder of the movie after the scene was revealed. Doing nothing more than putting that at the beginning changed everyone's perception of Marlon from a very negative one to being very sympathetic, even though most of it is never mentioned again.
That's so interesting! It shows why story structure and order is so important.
Same goes for the last of us 2, if the game would tell its story chronological, it would have been a way better game.
@@firestorm5371Yeah, the jump back to Abby(?)’s POV was so jarring and weird it threw me out of the story and I never finished the let’s play I was watching because I realized I wouldn’t really see any more of the main character until the end of the complete second half of the game. It was, definitely a choice.
12:15 “We didn’t know she had a father”
I feel like the main reason behind Magnifico's refusal to make most of his people's wishes come true is that he wishes to preserve the magic for himself and become a powerful being, similar to the traits of Jiffar in Aladdin and what his motive was. While this isn't clearly revealed to the audience I believe it adds more suspense when it's not direct but something hinted at in the movie allows people to focus and enjoy the events more in my opinion
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You made a really amazing point with the modern "exposition through baseless dialogue" issue. I watched the new Ghibli movie in theaters yesterday, and one of its biggest strengths was the imagery storytelling. Scenes would go for 20 minutes without dialogue but I'd still learn so much about the story. Go watch it, its beautiful. It's called "The Boy and the Heron".
Ooh is that out? I'll have to check it out. Just watched My Neighbor Totoro for the firs time a couple days ago and loved it
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial That's great! They don't have one single bad movie.
I watched it 2 days ago, I also absolutely loved it. I do kind of wish they'd kept the Japanese name of the movie "How Do You Live?", it feels more expressive than the Boy and the Heron. I'd seriously recommend it to anyone reading.
@seeyouspacecowboy_909 watch from up on poppy hill or ocean waves. Im a huge ghibli fan and rewatched all the movies and god those are awful.
Ill be honest. I didnt understand the plot of the story but just being in the movie with the animation, world, characters, and music made me enjoy the movie even if i didnt know the story
This is not AI. It's the result of terrible pay and working conditions for writers. When they went on strike, Disney thought they could make a good movie without them. They were wrong.
Haven't watch any of them, for the last 4 years or so but they've been flopping and considered as crap before the strike.
Agreed, somewhat, but this was definitely written at least a year before the strike. 80k a year isn’t that terrible too although if they produce quality then of course should see way more than that. Chalking up a terrible written story to the plight of the strike is over doing it, and mainly has to do with streaming and show writers. And Why write something shite for everyone to see and take a hit to your reputation even if you were paid less than 80k? Disney executives are the problem which everyone can agree on but even the writers they hire are the problem when it comes to quality because the box office bombs just keep going off and they didn’t have an issue some years back with the same conditions.
@@treytilley333 with Hollywood projects like this, especially those that made by Disney, the writers aren't exactly the one doing the "writing". Major decisions had be done with agreement with animators, character designers, market research, marketing executives, songwriters, merchandise, financiers, brand and corporal management. The writers are simply the synthesizers of those ideas and the director is just a plant manager. Not that I think the writers are any good, but blaming the writers in Hollywood are like blaming the cooks for the taste of the fruit in the fruit salad. They don't grow or buy them, they just put them together.
Honestly, this only bolsters the AI suspicions. When all your writers go on strike for months, what better way to keep churning out garbage than to simply have an AI write your script for you until those lazy, selfish writers get off their asses and get back to work!
@Tawleyn the timeline really doesn't work out for that, this movie wouldve been written well before the strike started. Stuff takes years to go from concept stage to theaters
I love how movie shows that after givin their wish people live a pretty happyu life and everything seems good Asha sings "I want more that THIS". Like, what more? Isn't everything is ok? IS ther a problem?
The movie opens with a song about how fantastic the kingdom is and they don’t pay rent and the town is clean and they dance around bursting into song spontaneously because of how good it is. Asha saying she wants more for everyone that “this” is pretty malcontented. Who’s she to decide that the town isn’t actually in favor of how they’re ruled when even when her grandfather is asked if he wants to know his wish he said he doesn’t. It’s kind of the same “I decide” mentality that Magnifico has.
Gruel! That was one of my favorite musicals and the first stage production I ever took part in!
2:06 God, these characters look SO much better in hand-drawn 2D than they do in 3D.
Yeah they needed to xcommit to the art style. Its currently too much of a hybrid
My guess is that they do not have anyone in animation who specializes in 2d anymore. All the veterans were outed. 🤷🏻♀️ just my take. With films with puss in boots and spiderverse, not even counting animations from japan with a similar hybrid style, theres no excuse for how weird the style looks in this movie. Its like they skipped textures and added cell shading and called it a day
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial Calling it a hybrid is a disservice to films like Spiderverse or Klaus which actually do so.
Wish borrows the cell shaded storybook aesthetic from these sorts of films but has very few if any actually 2D elements from what I see of it. The little star guy for example was supposed to be 2D and was 2D in the trailers but now they’re 3D. And the film was supposed to be fully 2D before becoming a hybrid only to end up as what we have now.
In a way it’s not enough of a hybrid, and is essentially Disney’s standard 3D fare with a filter slapped on top of it.
@@Dany_lop I believe hand drawn animation is more unionized than CGI animation
@@TheJadedJamesEx-disney animators have came out and said that they just don't have the tools and production process to make feature-length 2D animation at Disney. They've replaced everything with the 3D process, so now 2D is mainly only being created in their TV animation studio, a studio probably not big enough to make a whole cinematic movie like Disney's main studio would've used to.
I was worried with the marketing that the movie seemed like it was Disney soulessly putting out what they think their brand is. Them using AI to come up with this makes too much sense. If they did, then I am glad this original Disney movie bombed.
Even if people wrote this, this generic writing shouldn't be encouraged.
That's just what Disney has become, generic and soulless. Movies keep flopping left and right and the popular excuse is the woke garbage and pandering, but the God awful writing is mostly to blame in these cases. Disney isn't trying to make movies that people will want to go back and watch years later anymore, they're making slop that'll sell tickets and toys today because who cares about tomorrow if it isn't profitable?
You talking about the ‘show don’t tell’ issue was spot on. Gonna go on a bit of a rant here, but something i noticed myself when giving the songs a listen is how much Asha and the others talk about what they do or want. Who they are or aren’t. Like in a very literal way.
Easiest way to explain this is if you listen to Ariel’s i want song. She doesn’t outright say “i want to go on land”. Instead the phrases it like “wandering free, wish i could be part of that world”. It conveys what she yearns for without making it feel like she’s just bluntly telling the audience.
Compare that to the very literal phrasing of “so i make this wish”. It doesn’t play with language and so barely feels like a song. When they do attempt to bring in metaphors you get things like “throw caution to every warning sign.”
The combination of very literal phrasing clumsily mixed with metaphors that don’t land is what’s making it feel AI generated.
As a huge Disney fan, I was really looking forward to Disney's Wish, especially with it being a celebration of the company's 100-year anniversary. However, after watching this video, I couldn't help but feel a bit skeptical. The points raised about the film feeling like it was written by artificial intelligence are intriguing and definitely make me want to approach it with a critical eye. It's fascinating to think about how AI could potentially influence storytelling in such a beloved and iconic industry like Disney. I appreciate the insights provided in this video and look forward to seeing how Disney's Wish stacks up against its predecessors.
NGL, awkwardly telling another dad that he's afraid of Nemo being eaten by a barricuda like his mother was sounds 100% in character for Marlin.
hah fair
The most compelling argument is the "show dont tell" line. ChatGPT and the like are language models, in that they can only express themselves using dialogue. The fact that ideas are only expressed through words and not inferred by depiction makes me feel like this was definitely done by AI.
Well, it wasn't.
@@wwjccsd How do you know?
@@wwjccsd"nuh-uh"
AI could do that, though, because it would be using training data from screenplays, which DO use words to indicate implied things. It just does so as notes and directions in the script, not dialogue. but GPT would be writing those in still
So what about graphic AI? The real problem with AI is that they lack holistic approach to the problem.
And this entire movie is failure of holistic. Like low level scenes work, but not as a whole.
Can we talk about how the friends were also sort of the seven dwarves? There was a sneezey one and one with glasses and one with dopey ears... and that was their whole personality 😂😢
The discussion of diverse casting/characters appearing in Disney's movies, or mainstream overall, is something that is definitely needed. I'm personally white, but I do follow black and other poc writers who have pointed out that /when/ there are women of color on screen in major roles, they're often noticeably paler than any of their morally grey counterparts or villains overall, things like Princess and the Frog, which also suffers from "turning your poc into an animal/non-human creature" habit in a few of these movies. They can be fantastic actors, the story can be perfect, but it doesn't subtract from the fact most "good characters" that are poc are noticeably very tan. Things like recasting Bubbles from Lilo and Stitch the way they did feels like they're ignoring actual diversity in favor of performative diversity. I'm ecstatic for the diversity we are beginning to see, and I do want everyone to be represented, but I want *everyone* represented. It's like the casters want to pretend to be progressive by dragging their heels while doing it
When you mentioned Kerchik finally accepting Tarzan as his son while dying, it reminded me of the essential plot structure-- the hero gets what they wanted but pays a terrible price for it.
If the hero wants for other people to have wishes, it means they want for others to want. It's too meta.
yep.
And at the end of the day whether or not she accomplishes her goal doesn't matter cuz there's no stakes. The town won't be any worse off than it was. And she isn't risking shit by doing what she's doing. And so therefor we don't care about what she's doing. Wish was just the ennard of Disney movies. A soulless amalgamation of different concepts
What would stop you from telling your wish to a friend, so even if you personally forget your wish your friend could just remind you and you could both magically and mundanely pursue it? AI could overlook how humans would have conversations.
or even bloody writing it down??
That might be why Asha knew her grandfather's wish.
Yahhh AI still isn’t good at logic which is pretty funnyyyy
literally even a throwaway explanation of "everyone else forgets it too and it disappears totally" or whatever coulda solved this 💀
to be fair, humans can overlook this too, wish is incredibly generic and soulless, but I've seen human writers do far worse than this, I wouldn't be surprised if this is AI shenanigans, but I also wouldn't be surprised if this is just a first draft and there couldn't be any rewrites due to having a tight schedule
Off topic, but - I immensely respect you for saying "homage" properly
Me and my friend have made a joke about Magnifico. Now every time we either see a glowing light or someone asks us a couple questions, we say, “I’m evil now!”
I wish they had asha as an actual assistant/trainee who’s been under magnifico for years as the only other person who could do magic in the kingdom , making him a sort of a parental figure for her on a personal level, that dynamic alone could have changed a lot on its own , and it would open a great door for fantasia references, not a direct reference to the movie but maybe using it as an inspiration to the some magic scenes and etc
Also that would better integrate the loss of her dad into the movie rather than just seeming plopped
There's something I quite like in storytelling, worldbuilding dialogue. What if there was a moment where Asha talks to someone and notices they enjoy doing something they are good at like baking/singing and asks if they consider doing it for a living. They go distant and say no. But then Asha sees that they did dream of doing it professionally but just forgotten. Then that would have given Asha more reasonable motivation.
That would've been so simple yet perfectly chilling to add.
This film literally sounds like one reddit story about the guy who had wish every 3 years on his birthday (i think), and one of them was that he forgets his past wishes and having privilege to having a wish
Great video! It confirmed my lack of need to see Wish. Thank you!
I really liked you bringing up how despite their efforts to push some kind of diversity, they typically end up treating white men as the norm but only using diverse women as a marketing strategy. It’s hardly diverse at all, it’s just capitalism with a diverse coat of paint. I know there’s value in younger audiences seeing themselves represented in media, but at the same time they’re practically doing the bare minimum to represent minority groups and hardly challenging the status quo like they present themselves as doing.
This is the thing. Disney needs to commit to one direction or another. They're pissing off Racist people for having diverse characters, but they're angering pro-diversity fans because they're "representation" is so corporate and tokenistic
How did they use white man as a norm??/gen
“Representation that doesn’t challenge the status quo” is a great way of describing it, I think. Gonna have to remember that one
@emblemblade9245 monopolies will ALWAYS be hyper conservative, even if they want to appear progressive. They dont see race or gender. They see consumers
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial When the majority of your company is white liberals whom don’t realize black people fucking hate them-Disney doesn’t realize this.
Fun thing, the plot used to be completely different and more in line with the old movies. A love story between Asha and the Star, the villains would have been both the Queen and the King making the first villain duo.
Aw man, that could've made for a really good film. Something worthy of a 100th year celebration. Shame they changed it.
I was so mad when I found out they didn’t go with those plot ideas
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A macbeth style king-queen villain duo? count me in
They even sell a doll bundle of the king and queen in stores. Rewrites and changes were probably happening even as toys were being made, because there's no reason to sell them in a bundle considering how the story unfolds.
i haven't seen the movie nor do i plan to because i'm not a huge disney movie fan but the artstyle is a really good combo of their newer movies and their older movies and I like it, I hope they do more movies with this style
I joined this writing team for this short film and as I was talking to the director and showed him my idea for the opening scene i realized how tropey and dialogue filled he wanted it to be. And how he also had no idea what he was doing.
Thats rough buddy
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial yeah had this beautiful opening scene written and when I show it to him he told me he wanted it to be edgy and just….idk early 2000’s movie high schoolers vibe with a dash of lame
While it's possible some AI was used, judging by what we've seen from the original concept, my guess of what happened is the creatives turned in their story, and the marketing and corporate executive teams came in and started cutting/pasting in their own ideas that they saw as "more marketable" "more nostalgic" "more pandering to the traditional Disney fan". You can feel it when you see the forced Easter Eggs. Some executive probably sat in the board room going "It's the 100th anniversary...give her some friends we can call back to the Seven Dwarfs. Throw in more visual Easter Eggs. I want a Peter Pan in there, he performs at "insert popularity poll position here". Oh and we need a talking animal. I can see a talking animal. Oh the goat's not cute enough, make the star boy a character we can put in Emoji Blitz." By the time they get whatever muddled collage the execs demand of the creative team, it is so disjointed that no amount of editing could make up for it.
I think this is the most likely reason since this is already what's been happening for a while.
Writers make a script and then a mf in a monkey suit and tie comes in like "According to our statistics-☝🤓"
True but the writers in general suck without help in general these days
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Why go into writing movies if this is what happens? How do you learn to write movies if you never get to try anything out yourself? It's a feedback loop, like pitch correction in singing. Nobody needs to learn to sing in pitch if they're always corrected.
@@victoriafisher1923 I was more making commentary on how todays climate just breeds mediocrity to the point they pretend their worst examples of it excesses in human form get the limelight . . . but still need every form of assistance possible, not as a favor to them but for the audiences sake.
Compare the more recent vs classic Conan movies
Out of pure curiosity I had ChatGPT write me a synopsis for a Disney movie inspired by the films in the Disney Renaissance. The plot it gave me sounded way more interesting than the plot of Wish. I actually think it would have been a better film if AI wrote it. What I think happened is that they had a decent story, then executive meddling killed it.
Someone posted their ChatGPT results in the comments!
@@DrawciaGleam02 "I think AI is very good and that more people should use AI more often in day to day life." -ChatGPT
@@animeisaweapon4208I think its more that if AI had been used it wouldn’t really matter since someone had to look at this thing and think “yeah, we should ship it”
I want to read what it wrote for you!
It's not just executives. Diversity hiring has lead to a lot of their writing staff being out of touch with the general public (or even actively hate men).
i watched Wish yesterday and i use "watch" in the loosest terms since it was a mess, for all the reasons you outlined beautifully in this essay. Some of the clips you showed i struggled to remember which scenes or parts they came from, and i literally saw it less than 24 hours ago.
with some workshopping this could have been great. the concept art was amazing.
personally, id have made Asha the daughter of the king who learns he isn't as benevolent as she thought,, at least that would have been a great hark back to the evil step mother/queen trope and provided some real stakes. Also the world building could have been Asha realising she has been seeing the kingdom through her fathers perspective. But even the designs felt AI generated in the end. The watercolour backgrounds were so soulless, its clear Chris Sanders didn't insist on watercolour training for the artists like he did in Lilo and stitch. I actually laughed at one or two points when they showed the sky and the ocean- so bland- no contrast, just poor poor execution all around.
I feel awful for everyone involved, especially Asha's voice actress- she was clearly talented. Doubt we will get an honest behind the scenes look at this disney clASSic
Gruel ! I had to write a literary commentary on this excerpt of Oliver Twist. Just felt the need to say that
It's ridiculously common for modern stories, the visual ones anyway (games, movies etc.) to be about
"oh no, my homeland is terrible/in great danger, i need to save it/make it better!"
Meanwhile the homeland in question is apparently a freaking paradise. Everyone is happy and dancing, the world doesn't even come off as corrupted in any way that would justify the protag's mission, and there's like a single person in the whole movie who is often a bit sad.
Tf are they trying to fix in these places!?
Why make a story about saving a world from corruption/danger when you refuse to show the danger/corruption "cause it's inappropriate for kids!" Or it outright calls you out your big corpo's crimes.
Can you give some examples of movies and games with this plot? The most recent one that comes to mind is Encanto (I know it actually does show the bad stuff, but it counts because of how lively the town is shown at the beginning)
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Okay i maybe shouldn't have phrased it as "ridiculously common" that was stupid of me but there are out there media like that and i swear it's not so rare.
There's The Lorax 2012 where in the supposedly terrible post-everything-died future the people are completly fine with their lifes. The Thneedville is "beautiful" and people are litterally dancing and singing there, are fine eating jelly and don't even cares about the whole planting trees thing the main character wants to do so he can score some chick. That movie is so bad.
Another movie is the one in the video, Wish.
For a game, i'd say Pokémon Sword & Shield did a terrible mistake with their story. The antagonist wants to summon an eldritch horror capable of destroying the world, to harvest it's energy because he's worried that his nation will run out of power ...in approximately 1000 years in the far future.... And the region of course is completly fine.
It would've been way better if it was stated they'll run out of power in 100 or 50 years and we saw signs of the people overusing the energy or smth, anything like that.
That would at least somewhat explain/validate his concern and desperate plan.
I'll try finding more examples...
That's the kicker. Pretty much all large-scale media don't want their big corporate backers to get angry. It's self-censorship for the almighty investors plus merch and ad revenue. That's why if a big corporation is doing bad things in these films/series/games, it's usually just one bad apple and not presented as a systemic issue. I still haven't seen it yet but probably one of the most realistic portrayals I can think of, off the top of my head, is Arcane and as noted, that's more like teen and up than kids. There's usually a sinister solo figure when it comes to younger media.
destroy stable aspect of society 😁
@@j.stanley1669 I was just about to comment on Arcane, haha. Gonna talk about about it here without spoilers in case anyone is interested:
While in Arcane you have Piltover, a beautiful and rich city filled with the greatest scientists and literal magic, but also containing a very oppressive and oligarchical government, you also have Zaun, Piltover's underbelly, which is a chaotic and dangerous place, whose citizens are frequently exploited by crime/drug lords and also by Pilties (people from Piltover).
The story takes its time to focus on the reality of both these places and deeply explores how they relate to each other. Sometimes its Pilties realizing that Piltover is not as good as they thought. Sometimes its Zaunites realizing that their communities are in dire need of help, and that they're being exploited. The show never says "look how shitty or screwed up this place/situation is" without proving proof first.
This, among many other things, is why Arcane is one of my favorite pieces of media world building-wise. Period.
I actually don't think that it was AI. I think it's something far worse, far more evil and destructive... It was pure marketing writing, taken straight out of social media principles.
Or individual writers/employees used AI to excessively augment their job requirements
As a visionary whose worked with marketing teams recently, I get what you mean. Building a product based on other product's marketing successes always leads to disaster. The motto I've adopted: The reason something succeeded the first time was because they were the first one's to do it! Simply copying and pasting previous successes into your work results in a product that lacks heart and soul. All new ideas involve risk, but the difference between them and the new "copy-paste" method is that in the end, even if it isn't a great success, you still have something you can be proud of. And who knows, it may even grow a cult following down the road.
While this is evil, I would not consider it worse. AI is leading to an extremely dark future. Simply following what's popular is an old trick and always fizzles out eventually.
EXACTLY. It feels like it was written specifically for people on TikTok to watch a clip and say "Hey this seems pretty good." It feels like every scene is contained in its ability to be clipped and shared on social media. I'm sure there were many people involved with this project who were absolutely pissed off about the direction this film went. Not to mention Disney execs will take this as an excuse that people "dont want the old animated films anymore."
Neither, it’s just written by talentless hacks.
I had high enough hopes for this film based on a pre-Wonka trailer and the art style of the nature and backgrounds; I really quite liked the somewhat flatter textures and more paint-like effect. It's a shame it didn't have either better writers or more time for rewrites.
Also agreed. A wasted Chris Pine is an absolute crime, and should be punishable by death.
Everything you said is almost all the issues I had with that film XD
Also yeah, you give some good points.
For a hundred year celebration i think they should've just turned their Disneyland show Fantasmic into a movie, by fleshing out the stage show. Afterall the central character of that show is Mickey and isn't Mickey Mouse supposed to be one of the big symbols of Disney.
i mean... they did turn a park ride of theirs into a movie and released it this year... it bombed though
@@murciadoxial8056It's not even said ride's first go as a movie. It's reheated leftovers.
@@murciadoxial8056 turning a park ride into a movie worked great for them in 2003, though.
THIS ! 1000%
Manifico harboring wishes to grant so people never have to feel the burden of their wish never becoming a reality, is an actual interesting and compelling plotline that they could have done so much more with. I think the problem is that Manifico starts out like too much of a normal and sympathetic character. A stern, stubborn character, but his sterness and pragmatic thinking is more of a neccesity than a degredation. I don't think they could have made him a "classic villain" with these traits.
I'm not a great writer, but here's a simple way I think he could have been improved: make Manifco an old sorcerer, secretly eating wishes to stay alive, but on the surface acting as a noble benevolant ruler. (similar to Mother Gothel) Until Asha discoveres the truth, and then with paranoia of the truth being revealed, then does he start to panic and become desperate and mad. It's not the most creative and a little on the twist villain side, but if it was established from the start, I think that would have worked much better. If Manifico was a ticking time bomb, instead of "a decent guy until whoops evil book!" the plot would have worked a lot better.
I think that's a really great direction they could have taken! I think Encanto shows how a good/noble motivation can lead to negative outcomes in a community, and they really should have done the same in Wish.
Well, whether u think ur a great writer or not, that’s actually a pretty great take on what they could’ve done with the plot. And actually makes him a more complex character instead of being as 1 dimensional as they wrote him. 🙃🫰
I'm sorry but EATING THE WISHES TO STAY ALIVE!?!?!
THATS LIKE, SO DAMN COOL!?!?!?! you definitely have imagination and creativity bc you couldn't pay me to come up with that bc I could never
That's honestly very neat! People's wish having this sort of power that give life or extend life, like mother Gothel!
To show you why you're already a better writer than whoever made Wish, we have to examine what made the classic Disney villains so great: their wants were unreasonable and often cruel. Cruella wants to skin puppies. The Evil Queen wants to be the fairest of them all. Scar wants to take over his brother who's an excellent ruler, similar to Ursula and Jaffar. Gaston wants the girl, no matter what. Magnifico wants to keep the status quo in order to protect his country (and his power) from any unseen consequences of a wish. It's not that unreasonable or cruel, right? Living forever is unreasonable, eating wishes is cruel. Your solution is perfect.
Your suggestion totally fits with the classic villain vibes.
An alternative I think, if they wanted to stick with the "had good intentions that were corrupted" since they wanted him to be at least somewhat sympathetic given they gave him a backstory where he literally was a hero and founded a country because people love him so much (which we never see anything related to that, we're just told this Shrek style at the beginning of the movie)
Have it so Magnifico isn't wrong, some wishes ARE dangerous or bad, and he doesn't grant them for obvious reasons. But he cant destroy them so over time, after hoarding these evil wishes to prevent them from being granted it also corrupts him, and his power comes from a darker and darker place.
Contrast that with Star's power coming from a fresh and pure place where he hasn't experienced bad wishes yet, and he just grants all of the wishes he comes across, leading to a confrontation between him and Magnifico who is in a corrupted state of just knowing he needs to stop Star but going way overboard
and have Asha be the balance, her seeing it happen makes her realize there's a middle ground that yes not all wishes should be granted, but Magnifico just hiding the wishes wasn't the way to deal with them properly
One theory i really like, is that all the teasers are saying this is "all the movies in 1".
That'd make sense why its so generic.
AI is learning from all of disney, so any story AI generates will be the average of everu movie.
That's their excuse for a AI script.
ALL IN 1
This is literally Square Enix with Forespoken all over again.
It's sad that Disney movies have become so formulaic that it's difficult to tell if it was written by a human or by AI. Though considering the recent writer's strike, and the fact this is Disney, they likely used AI in some capacity.
AI probably wrote the rough draft, and since they won’t pay for writers rooms anymore, the junior junior script writers were paid just for punch up, not structural fixes. So the character breaking choices just….stay.
Miramax could’ve already been owned by Disney, even though they credit that as non-Disney platform for movies,
@@OctopusOwlthe writers room cant exist when theres like 500 shows to write at once. There's literally too much tv and movies being made, that is literally half the problem.
It's astonishing to me how many people haven't yet realized that the soulless corporation that used to be the cheerful company called Disney has long since lost it's magic and replaced all childlike wonder with greed enabled through nostalgia baiting.
I’ve honestly noticed the Disney formula since I was a kid and I find most Disney movies to be boring musicals at this point. There’s definitely exceptions though.
I have been watching a lot of “Puss in Boots the Last Wish” and “Wish” and made a startling realization. They both focus on wishes coming true. In natural Dreamworks fashion, they created a story focused on wishes completely opposite of Disney. In everything that Disney failed at, Dreamworks succeeded. They had unique characters, beautiful cinematography, and-everything Disney used to be. Rather than the AI generated Wish, Dreamworks returned audiences back to the traditional fairy tale. I specifically thought about how the girl in Wish wanted dreams to be released back to the people, but in Puss in Boots we learn that we don’t need magic stars. Sometimes we are already living our dreams and lose sight of it. We got the true villain, who much like the evil man from Wish, wants all the magic (wishes) to himself. It would be SO COOL if you made a video comparing and contrasting the two of them.
The best part of Puss in Boots 2 is the fact it was a sequel of a more mediocore movie ment to cash in on a favorite charater from the Shrek movies.
In comes this movie.. redoing the style... still using established charaters correctly, but putting them in a better movie , yet keeping the original charateristics of the Shrek universe in place.
The funniest part is.. this movie has 1 antagonist but tries to Jam all 3 of puss in boots in the king.
While puss in boots has 3 antagonists.
1: Is the reflection of Puss in Boots that he should be happy with what he has. (Goldie Locks)
2: Is the force of nature that the end will come and he is running for (His selifsh motivation and karma aka Death)
3: A downright evil guy who is just there to increase the conflict to the max, while having fun with the storybook elements (Yep. Jack is that)
So we got the "We aren't so alike" antagonist, The motivational Antagonist and the downright evil antagonist all in 1 movie. And in most movies all 3 are mostly packed into one.
But here we are having them be indiviually great!
TLW is definitely the better wish movie than Wish is.
Wish's morals is people should strive to make their wish come true through hard work, but they then contradict that moral by having Asha become the fairy godmother that grants wishes. And she's now in the same boat as Magnifico, because we clearly see that she's not granting everyone's wishes.
TLW's wish moral is the same, but they follow through with that moral, by showing us that all of the characters (except Jack Horner) got their wish without the wishing star. Destroying the wishing star is the completion of that moral, and it's beautiful. And this moral isn't even the _main moral,_ which would be the moral of appreciating your life, your loved ones, your friends, and the people who matter to you; which Puss learns and he grows as a person because of it.
facts, puss in boots 2 is masterpiece of this decade
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@@ibadurrohmanmusthofa7619 when average, generic movies that were of similar qualities of those made in 2010s, 2000s and 1990s are being talked as being a masterpiece, we know which we are heading towards disaster
Gruel, i loved the fact you did a oliver reference,
Didn't expect this video to blow up like it has. And yeah, growing a channel I'm passionate about is awesome. But honestly, my favorite part of this getting all these views is seeing just how many people appreciate Oliver lol. Consider yourself part of the family