This man has acted in several crime dramas, and almost in everyone, he plays an innocent soul, hiding the wolf beneath and everytime he will awe you with his skills and emotions
Is it really pigeonholing when you're just that brilliant at the part? No amount of effects could've done better at transitioning from a handicapped innocent to a cold-blooded psychopath. It's chilling every time I see it. Edward Norton has nothing on this guy.
I think the most interesting thing about this scene is that Patrick tries to take the moral high ground on Thomas, but when Thomas rebuffs him and confesses that he loved every moment of that revenge, it genuinely resonates with Patrick. The only mistake that Thomas makes is thinking that Patrick wouldn’t understand when-in reality-he was maybe the only one who really could.
"I can see you." Some of the most terrifying words one human can ever say to another. It was those words that got Thomas to drop the Tommy act. He even smiled, as if he was finally glad that someone had finally seen through the act.
It was probably relief. "Tommy" is probably a very exhaustive role to play. And it wasn't some "dumb cop" that saw through him, but a smart and clever man. Probably felt comfortable speaking to someone he thought was on his own level.
No, I feel a warmth in Simon Baker's performance. His smile on the poster is what made me click this on Amazon and 4 seasons in, I couldn't be happier.
Jane is definitely scarier when you see his eyes light up when Thomas talks about revenge being redemptive. It's like Thomas is whetting Jane's appetite for the revenge he so desperately seeks.
the “I can see you” line brought a tear to my eye. Imagine someone looking you straight in the eye and telling you that you should drop the act because they can see right through you. brilliant.
I like shows like this, but only when I completely disregard the fact that people usually don't confess their crimes ever, unless there's a settlement.
Edward Norton did it better in 1996 in Primal Fear. Identical story line with a far superior actor. Edward Norton even got nominated for best supporting actor a the Oscars that year for the role.
no one can change my mind about this show being one of the best shows that have ever been made. it’s so interesting, the plot and the actors are absolutely amazing and it is so underrated!
@@isabelapeluso9275 i totally get you. like i start watching some tv show and i literally can’t stay focused. i then come back to mentalist, because it is just so good
Was pretty good for a while, but once they resolved Red John the last leg felt like they were just stretching out the show. Wasn't a fan of how they handled him and Lisbon getting together either. Rushed the final part, imo.
@@willieoelkers5568 i agree with u on that one. i mean i still like it after they discovered red john but the final episode is just too rushed. they shouldn’t just end it so quickly
Thomas is a damn good actor. Whoever that guy is, great side character, perfect facial expressions, and the ability to change personalities at the flick of a switch.
This was one of the best, most underrated TV shows out there. The sheer brilliance and intelligence of it. But at the same time, the poetic aura and the depth of emotions and the wisdom. A true masterpiece! Patrick Jane is one of the most amazing and most complex characters ever written. I will never forget him or this tv show.
I will always say this was one of the best & most underrated shows of all time. The way they weaved the Red John story arc throughout while still focusing on other stories was brilliant.
@Mauri Font not really. Whom would have you liked as Red John? Somebody young that makes no sense considering it takes a lot of time to build up the Blake association and gain so much wide spread power? The only one that would have made more sense was Stiles because he had that power BUT that would have been too obvious. Another option would have been a character that wasn't introduced before but then they'd have to drop the "handshake" thing. Mcallister was a solid choice. Also the worst series endings ever has got to be game of thrones...himym is a close second.
Frederick Koehler gave an awesome performance in this scene, as did Simon Baker. It was a brilliant piece of writing by Ashley Gable and Bruno Heller. Well done to all involved.
It´s wonderful. feels so natural. And in a way you can understand and feel why Thomas did it and what it gaves to him afterwarts. I totally buy that he will be in prison and be satisfied.
@@junioralvarado629 Every single time, I think that's one of the greatest nuances of watching it through the second time, realizing the prying questions into how it felt the moment they got their revenge and this I feel is the moment that sealed it, Jane became a lot more forward in his search of red john and a lot more aggressive beautiful writing start to finish
@@kyin45 too bad they portraited his team as kind of useless to make him godlike detective. The fact that the cops are mostly clueless, doing almost no detective work made the show kind of cheap.
yes, i think he also saw the narcisistic manipulative genius in him that he used to be, and he knew that tickeling his ego with the "you should be proud of yourself" will break the ice.
The two slow blinks of jane when he heard thomas saying, "you wouldn't understand" shows all his feelings about revenge accurately. What an amazing actor.
Master of Gwent , I did a quick google search, the ‘Revenge’ quote has been used throughout Asia and some also say it’s a Greek quote. I heard the line in a Movie, so I’m just stealing from that.....:0)
@@jimd385 The Greek quote you are referring to goes as follows: "Όποιος σκάβει τον λάκκο του άλλου, πέφτει μέσα ο ίδιος!" which means "whoever digs another's grave, will fall in it themselves" There's no mention of a second grave nor that the grave will contain both the person who dug it and the person it was intended for, so it's sort of ambiguous. It could mean that someone who plots murder will end up the victim, or that revenge will cost you exactly what you are taking away.
My favourite line of this scene is Jane saying “Of course, the Pequod. Silly of me” with a calmly serious expression. Because when it comes to him, “silly” mistakes like this are always made with a carefully thought out purpose and that line and the delivery really show that. The best character ever written on tv in my opinion.
But Tommy doesn't know that Patrick perfectly understands him because he wants to do the same to Red John so in a way Patrick enjoyed hearing those words because now he is assured that his revenge on Red John would be rewarding, satisfying and redemptive.
I don't think his naive playing was convincing. That he may be the one, not necessarily, but that he is playing an act, and not stupid, that's very clear. You can tell from his eyes (which may be intentional by the actor, but nevertheless).
I am a fan of "The Mentalist" and I have watched every episode at least 4 times and I'm still continuing to watch it. This scene is also one of my favorites.
Knowing Jane's story with Red John that "I know the price of revenge, and it's worth it" and "you wouldn't understand" hit really hard‼️ best scene no doubt
It’s ironic, Jane talking about the cost of revenge with him. That line “you wouldn’t understand” and how Baker reacted to it, it’s wonderful. What a performance from both actors.
Both actors deserve an Oscar for this! The microexpresions of both are just true... First when Thomas comes out. And then when Patrick get the only real answer he wanted... Was the revenge worth it? PURE GOLD!
I've watched every episode of "The Mentalist" at least 3 times now, one of my favorite tv series in 65 years of viewing. Simon Baker truly created an icon and memorable character in his portrayal of Patrick Jane.
@@stevekaczynski3793 No, actually we have a big beer culture but i have never seen it or heard that someone drunk it here. But i really don't know why they made it raspberry juice instead cause no one is drinking it either haha
It's actually much more than that. When Tommy said that he would not understand. The reality is quite the opposite as no other person in that room except Jane who understands EXACTLY how it feels like.
I love The face Jane's pulling when Tommy is telling him how worth it revenge is. Its such a small detail but when you look a bit closer you really appreciate it, Simon baker is one hell of an actor :D
There is a lot of episodes were talking about revenge, it keeps us reminded about the bigger picture than solving a particular crime of that episode which makes me love this show.
THIS.... is a FUCKING amazing actor. Fredrick Koehler is one of my favourite actors ever. The way his face and attitude changed was brilliant, and his confession to Patrick was chilling. I'm serious, this guy needs more recognition! He deserves it! Thumbs up if someone agrees!
People like him walk the streets every day. But they can never really hide. Their eyes always give them away. There is always that spark of intelligence in their eyes.
Times when supporting actors are outdoing the leads. Effortlessly. "You wouldn't understand." This line sent me chills. I exactly know where he's coming from.
Agree I miss it too. Good writing. In the city I can tell who watched the mentalist because some people would repeat certain phrases Patrick would say. It helps that he was kinda handsome, us ladies like that stuff.
Oh yeah, I love this episode too! How Tommy "transform" to THomas is scary. The same body and face, but a different person. And I love how this case got solved because of an old book. Amazing!
I love Jane's blink at the end, when he says "You wouldn't understand." Because, he -does-. Jane, more than anyone else, understands the lust for revenge, and the full knowingness and acceptance that one has to put themselves through before seeking it. Beautiful writing, beautiful acting. Amazing tv show.
Illiteracy is the bread and butter of people like Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Xi Jinping, Trump, Bolsonaro et cetera. For to be illiterate means to be easily manipulated, a known quantity, closed off in your own little box, easily moved.
I've watched the show and definitely get Janes brilliance as a "Mentalist" . However, the twist for this episode is even more shocking than when Red John was officially revealed. Jane knew his suspicions were true when he got corrected about Ahabs boat. It was brilliant.
What I love about Jane is that he isn't satisfied with finding the culprit, he has to go inside their mind and break them down so they're so mentally exhausted they confess everything
Nah. This man wasn't mentally exhausted. There is a small pause before he confesses and he smiles, knowing what Jane just asked and instead of lying, he accepted everything and didn't care that he confessed. He was happy, not exhausted.
He is very smart! He didn't actually confess, he just said he watched them burn in agony and that he loved it. Kinda similar to the movie i cant remember the name but the one with Gerard butler that takes revenge on the entire system, after it fails to punish the killer of hes wife and daughter. Where he says he planned it over and over in hes head :) this guy does the same thing, very clever boy haha
Not only is this wonderfully acted, it's also really cleverly written. There's not only a parallel between Tommy and Ahab but also between Tommy and Jane. I wonder if Tommy ever heard of what Jane ended up doing to RJ. I wish there had been a re-visitation of his character. He could have developed so interestingly, especially since The Mentalist is more about interesting main characters than it is about having really deep characters for the killers. It's a real pity that The Mentalist is finishing. I can't help but feel that as great as the show was, 7 seasons aren't enough to capture all the possibilities that could have been.
i so agree with you. I think its a pitty if they had the chance for more seson they could have pult up a new smart serial killer, or killer, or anyway I think patrick jane was a hillerious, amazing main character and personaly its one of the only characters of tv history I found briliant in all his details and facettes, also truely beautiful acted by simon backer a perfect choice in my eyes. credits to all writers and bruna hellers ... I am so sad it's ending
Agreed, this was a real clever scene indeed. Sadly I never found the protagonists very interesting (aside from Jane and Cho, I just liked him) The recurring antagonists were often much more interesting like Morena Baccarin's and Malcolm McDowell's characters.
I found Cho interesting because of his back story. Former gang member changed his ways. The whole baseball episode was also really good at sort of showing us his past same as the episode of the kid who stole his car. I also really like lisbon as well. Rigsby and van pelt are whack tho lol
I have been coming back to watch this video every few months for the last 8 years. What really makes this scene so beautiful is not the casual switch of Tommy or how Jane reveals him. It's the last line - "You wouldn't understand". It's ironic, since we know that revenge has what driven Jane up until that point. Jane smiles, at this irony. But I think he also smiles because Tommy validates his path - the pleasure that he got from extracting his revenge reassures Jane that his own path of revenge is not futile; he will feel this joy too as he finally takes down Red John.
I felt bad for that kid when he asked,"that root beer coming?". It sounded so sad and pathetic and it seemed like Jane was picking on him. When he dropped the act, my mind was BLOWN!
Ytalo Rafael 97 Couldn’t agree more. It’s like the writers just gave up. Red John is supposed to be an untouchable. Not who it turned out to be. Loved the show so much up to that point. If it wasn’t for Simon Baker’s perfect portrayal of Patrick Jane I would have never continued to watch.
Props to the actor who played the killer i love when actors can just switch like that on fly. Christopher Reeves did that exact kinda thing when switching from clark kent to superman
Thank you for uploading this, for getting me intrigued few months ago and leading me to discover what I recognise to be one of the best TV series ever made. I just finished the last episode today and it was one hell of a ride. Patrick Jane is gonna be my new favourite character for a long long time. What an amazing show.
Yeah. Such good acting. Somewhat subtle yet noticeable. Jane is always smiling to some degree, but it broadens and reaches his eyes after Tommy says revenge was redemptive.
Just finished the whole show on Prime. Out of all the seasons / episodes, I will never forget this one. Incredible. You guys are all right when you say The Mentalist is underrated... even to this day, I haven’t found a show to compare it to.
Bosch gave me a lot of comfort after finishing The Mentalist. They're not necessarily similar but it's so ripe with personality, and its own distinct aura. Well worth a watch if you haven't already.
0:58 Blink and you’ll miss it! When Tommy corrects Jane and tells him that Captain Ahab’s ship is called The Pequod rather than The Peapod, Tommy’s eyes dart back and forth, he realizes his was getting too smart and blew his cover. At 1:49 Jane tells Tommy to lose the act and Tommy smirks, a nervous tick or a nod of recognition, him saying *damn Jane, you’re good.* but it doesn’t stop there. 1:57 he struggles with the dilemma of giving up or keeping the Tommy act going, in a desperate attempt at trying to get off, he asks, “that root beer coming?” The way he phrases this question shows he’s less confident and his voice shows some recoil. Frederick Koehler pulled this character off brilliantly.
@@L_Lawliet1907 being least sane is desirable to you? jps joker is just narcisistic and selfish. hes not crazy, hes logical. hes deranged, but he has an agenda. insane people dont act like he does.
@@thalivenom4972 Logical? An agenda? Are we watching the same movie here? He has stated in the movie itself that “do I look like a clown who can start a movement” at the near end. And when he gets freed from the police car, he’s just being carefree, without a worry in the world, meanwhile the people who support his movement think he has a plan. He doesn’t. He is literally the exact opposite of what you say, if he was say logical he wouldn’t be living in fantasies as shown in the movie. The moment he starts wearing the makeup he doesn’t give a shit about what he does, thus basically a behaviour of a broken man pushed to the limits. I’m definitely not someone with a degree in psychology, but even a 13 year old can identify a man with nothing to lose.
Is also the lighting. I just see the change from Tommy asking for the root beer to the real person. He leans back and his face wholly lightened. This is also a good performance from the camera man and the director.
@@radschele1815 There is an instance before that happens while he is contemplating just before and after the I can see you there is a change in his xpression. It is slight, but it is there. And I think that makes all the difference.
I got some theories that explain this effect : The frowned eyebrows show way more confidence and less surprise in the eyes. The mouth closed show that he controls his respiration too, so he isn't in fight or flee mode. Thomy is never in control of the situation and seems lost, but just with these facial movement thomas appears way more confident and dangerous. + the really great work on the voice too
0:49 jane test his memory by making a mistake on purpose calling the the ship peapod.. him answering and correcting jane saying it's a pequod just confirms that he doesn't have brain problems
Yes and no some people with mental disabilities actually are able to hone in and direct a lot of their thinking and understanding to certain things, usually very specific things. Some people are say, able to remember every single Yankees game ever played and every member on the team at any time but ask them what they had for dinner yesterday and they may have no clue. Some may be able to play video games as if they were gods of them but ask them to find something on a computer and they never would or could take hours, it all varies. I believe the ability, or disorder, is called savant syndrome (could be very wrong but I do believe it’s at least similar to that) so him focusing and memorizing moby dick may be on the smaller scale from what I described but it’s not entirely unlikely for him to easily remember it in fact I’d say it’s extremely plausible. Just thought I’d throw my 2 cents in.
As an aside I’m obviously no medical expert and have no formal training these are just observations I’ve made over time and in my current job so if I’m wrong I’d rather people just say so and not try to insult as there’d be no point in doing so.
TheMurry7 true but early in the episode they go to Thomas’s trailer. There they find children’s books. Made to look like he could only read at a child’s level. Hidden away Jane found moby dick. That’s how Jane knew he was pulling an act.
@@billcollins2798 No, it's savant syndrome. Idiot savant is not the term anymore since the discoveries of acquired savants and savants without any significant drawbacks.
I love this show. The writers are top notch, the acting especially Jane's is amazing and so so clever and real. It is by far one of the best Crime dramas out there and one of the best shows ever
One of the best crime thriller series.. After this whenever I watch another series felt like it's not good enough like mentalist.Those Characters and narration were top notch.
Looks like Jane admires him in a way. He knows he's on the same path. Jane: "I confess, I never did get to the ending. Ahab does die doesn't he?" Tommy: "Yes, but so does the whale." Jane: "That's my point, revenge doesn't come cheap." Tommy: "Oh, spare me your moralizing. I know what revenge costs. It's worth the price." And then at the end when Tommy says: "You wouldn't understand,", Jane blinks twice, almost to silently say that he does understand. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. Amazing acting regardless.
Jane is on his own quest for revenge, and is a killer himself. I recall at least 3 murders he commits, one indirect (when he sets up a guy to be killed by Red John).
not reading into it..or if you are then you aint alone. I noticed the same thign and saw the whole scene again..you can see everyone blink every now and then, but jane doesnt.he blinks only once towards end when Tommy starts to talk. And after Tommy says Jane wouldn't understand, Jane blinks twice deliberately.Twice.While smiling slightly. Thats not nothign.
The Mentalist is in my top 5 shows easily. Simon Baker became a favorite actor with the role of Jane. This was an awesome scene. The whole cast was amazing.
"Hello... nice to meet you" Favorite line of his. Every time he finally convinces someone to drop the act and be real with him, the first thing he does is greet them like a human being for the first time.
Dude who plays Thomas is amazing face actor he literally changed from idiot to an inteligent dude in a blink of an eye.
Very true. Good remark.
Yeah it was a really subtle, powerful piece of acting.
@Colin Z you know nothing about acting. I'm not american
The idiots were the ones that believed him, the smart one fooled th.. well, not all, but fooled a lot of people.
he also played a mentally challenged guy turned killer in The Evil Within. he's a great actor. and one that never seems to age. lol :)
This guy's more of a Red John than the actual Red John.
I did watch the show but there are some that did not, can you edit your comment to include a spoiler alert?
@@kimiko4616 Done!
I want to know what the original comment was 🤣
agree, he should play red john.
Yeaaaaah I was disapointed in the unveiling of Red John... would be better if Red John was O'laughlin himself... or even better, Katrina Frye
This man has acted in several crime dramas, and almost in everyone, he plays an innocent soul, hiding the wolf beneath and everytime he will awe you with his skills and emotions
He was great on Grimm too.
Yeah, if I see him on a show, I’m like there’s the killer. Lol. Probably not everytime but almost.
@@louchat333 And Criminal Minds. He played Twin Brothers.
Is it really pigeonholing when you're just that brilliant at the part? No amount of effects could've done better at transitioning from a handicapped innocent to a cold-blooded psychopath. It's chilling every time I see it. Edward Norton has nothing on this guy.
@@broEye1 true
I think the most interesting thing about this scene is that Patrick tries to take the moral high ground on Thomas, but when Thomas rebuffs him and confesses that he loved every moment of that revenge, it genuinely resonates with Patrick. The only mistake that Thomas makes is thinking that Patrick wouldn’t understand when-in reality-he was maybe the only one who really could.
I think Thomas meant Jane wouldn't understand how it feels to take revenge because Jane hasn't done his revenge
Not yet in the show though. This was in the first season right?
Jane goaded him to hear how revenge felt. He was curious.
@@littlehollow yes it was
That's what Jane wanted. He wanted affirmation that revenge is worth the cost, to support his ideation of killing Red John.
"I can see you." Some of the most terrifying words one human can ever say to another. It was those words that got Thomas to drop the Tommy act. He even smiled, as if he was finally glad that someone had finally seen through the act.
I love you!
It was probably relief. "Tommy" is probably a very exhaustive role to play. And it wasn't some "dumb cop" that saw through him, but a smart and clever man. Probably felt comfortable speaking to someone he thought was on his own level.
He was glad. Glad that someone recognized and respected his act that he'd been crafting for such a long time. Such power makes you very lonely.
but also beautiful words dont you think? It's a question of the situation and circumstance...
But let's give it to Thomas/Tommy. It was great acting.
Jane is scarier than Thomas in this scene.
The “I can see you” and “Hello, good to meet you” lines are terrifying
No, I feel a warmth in Simon Baker's performance. His smile on the poster is what made me click this on Amazon and 4 seasons in, I couldn't be happier.
Jane is definitely scarier when you see his eyes light up when Thomas talks about revenge being redemptive. It's like Thomas is whetting Jane's appetite for the revenge he so desperately seeks.
@@jimbodeathgrip yes,and finally when he kills RJ he does exactly the same. He enjoys his agony till the end, no compassion at all....
This scene is two master actors, dueling banjos.
and why?
The Mentalist is the most understated,underrated and unappreciated show ever
One of my favorite shows of all time. The ending was kind of clumsily executed though. The reveal with Bradley Whitford should have been it.
it pisses me off that i know all the episodes, i remember all the killers and stuff, i need to wat like atleast another ten years to forget them
the “I can see you” line brought a tear to my eye. Imagine someone looking you straight in the eye and telling you that you should drop the act because they can see right through you. brilliant.
Do you search for Jesus?
@@ZuerstJesus I have Mohammed. (SAAWS)
I hope I never get to know you
@@ralek592 oh you wouldn’t be so lucky 🥰
@@ralek592 What you mean, Muslims are some of the nicest people there are.
The change from Tommy to Thomas is amazing, face expressions and the way he speaks to Jane after he discovers him is, in a way, poetic.
I like shows like this, but only when I completely disregard the fact that people usually don't confess their crimes ever, unless there's a settlement.
Props to Koehler's acting ability.
The acting was incredible he even lost the innocent twinkle in his eye when he switched from Tommy to Thomas.
true. And the slumping down into the chair aswell. Brilliant
Edward Norton did it better in 1996 in Primal Fear. Identical story line with a far superior actor. Edward Norton even got nominated for best supporting actor a the Oscars that year for the role.
Jane was born for this role. I wish I could be as sharp as him.
You and me both, buddy!
trust me, you really really don't!
@@IIISentorIII why?
@@ua83 seeing dumb people everywhere everyday makes you a boredom shithouse.
Its a blessing and a curse seeing the dark side to people trust me
no one can change my mind about this show being one of the best shows that have ever been made. it’s so interesting, the plot and the actors are absolutely amazing and it is so underrated!
Agreed.
it ruined me for other shows, havent been able to watch Full seasons for years, they dont stimulate me as much as this show did
@@isabelapeluso9275 i totally get you. like i start watching some tv show and i literally can’t stay focused. i then come back to mentalist, because it is just so good
Was pretty good for a while, but once they resolved Red John the last leg felt like they were just stretching out the show. Wasn't a fan of how they handled him and Lisbon getting together either. Rushed the final part, imo.
@@willieoelkers5568 i agree with u on that one. i mean i still like it after they discovered red john but the final episode is just too rushed. they shouldn’t just end it so quickly
Thomas is a damn good actor. Whoever that guy is, great side character, perfect facial expressions, and the ability to change personalities at the flick of a switch.
His name is Frederick Koehler. He was on kate and allie in the 80's and played oldest boy in movie Mr. Mom
Frederick Koehler ❤
-“Ahab does die at the end doesn’t he?”
- “Yes, but so does the whale.”
What incredible dialogue
Why?
@@dippolos subtext
Except that.. the whale doesnˋt die in Moby Dick.
@@Yoctopory then read Moby Dick again
@@Yoctopory Yes, it does. It's open-ended, but the whale is harpooned and likely slowly bleeds to death or dies of the wound over time.
This was one of the best, most underrated TV shows out there. The sheer brilliance and intelligence of it. But at the same time, the poetic aura and the depth of emotions and the wisdom. A true masterpiece! Patrick Jane is one of the most amazing and most complex characters ever written. I will never forget him or this tv show.
One of the very few characters superior to even than Sherlock Holmes (also Poirot and Monk) when it comes to abilities and psychological/mind games.
Why underrated? It was popular here in Europe
Currently watching it with my sis and I love it so much. It might be one of my top shows
Where can I watch the complete seasons does anyone have Google drive link please share
@@Mladjon can you give me the link please
I will always say this was one of the best & most underrated shows of all time. The way they weaved the Red John story arc throughout while still focusing on other stories was brilliant.
@Mauri Font not really. Whom would have you liked as Red John? Somebody young that makes no sense considering it takes a lot of time to build up the Blake association and gain so much wide spread power? The only one that would have made more sense was Stiles because he had that power BUT that would have been too obvious. Another option would have been a character that wasn't introduced before but then they'd have to drop the "handshake" thing. Mcallister was a solid choice. Also the worst series endings ever has got to be game of thrones...himym is a close second.
Frederick Koehler gave an awesome performance in this scene, as did Simon Baker. It was a brilliant piece of writing by Ashley Gable and Bruno Heller. Well done to all involved.
I didn't know Bruno had written this. I wondered why this scene and the "Jerome\Joker" reveal scene from Gotham seemed so familiar!
The acting in this from both actors is incredible. All the subtleties; love watching this scene over and over...
Me either
I agree Mitch. I love the moment you can see the Tommy act disappear as he slowly leans back.
It´s wonderful. feels so natural. And in a way you can understand and feel why Thomas did it and what it gaves to him afterwarts. I totally buy that he will be in prison and be satisfied.
So do I.
Réf. Of primal fear ending I think.
Jane was drawing parallels between this guy and himself. He was trying to understand how it would feel to fulfill his revenge. This scene is brilliant
I rewatched all the episodes and noticed he always asked the killers if their revenge was worth it and by the end he’s convinced.
@@junioralvarado629 Every single time, I think that's one of the greatest nuances of watching it through the second time, realizing the prying questions into how it felt the moment they got their revenge and this I feel is the moment that sealed it, Jane became a lot more forward in his search of red john and a lot more aggressive beautiful writing start to finish
@@kyin45 too bad they portraited his team as kind of useless to make him godlike detective. The fact that the cops are mostly clueless, doing almost no detective work made the show kind of cheap.
yes, i think he also saw the narcisistic manipulative genius in him that he used to be, and he knew that tickeling his ego with the "you should be proud of yourself" will break the ice.
Acting is an art. Breathtaking scene .
The two slow blinks of jane when he heard thomas saying, "you wouldn't understand" shows all his feelings about revenge accurately. What an amazing actor.
The Chinese have a saying, “Before setting out on revenge, you must first dig two graves”
u sure its a Chinese saying?im a chinese and never heard of it my entire life lol
Master of Gwent , I did a quick google search, the ‘Revenge’ quote has been used throughout Asia and some also say it’s a Greek quote.
I heard the line in a Movie, so I’m just stealing from that.....:0)
I also have a saying, "that I dont care"
ryan urve i also do got one “Then fuck off”
@@jimd385 The Greek quote you are referring to goes as follows:
"Όποιος σκάβει τον λάκκο του άλλου, πέφτει μέσα ο ίδιος!"
which means
"whoever digs another's grave, will fall in it themselves"
There's no mention of a second grave nor that the grave will contain both the person who dug it and the person it was intended for, so it's sort of ambiguous.
It could mean that someone who plots murder will end up the victim, or that revenge will cost you exactly what you are taking away.
Man, years later, and this is still one of my favorite shows. Ever.
But I will never understand why Red John was this sheriff. That was a disappointment.
thats true
The mentalist was a great character and show. Totally under rated.
truly was a great show. a movie follow up would be pretty great as well.
it is still the best show I've watched period
My favourite line of this scene is Jane saying “Of course, the Pequod. Silly of me” with a calmly serious expression. Because when it comes to him, “silly” mistakes like this are always made with a carefully thought out purpose and that line and the delivery really show that. The best character ever written on tv in my opinion.
So many years later and this is still one of the best scenes I’ve ever seen. Both actors were amazing.
"you wouldn't understand"
*smiles yet starts to look sort of sad*
Fantastic acting!
Fantastic acting is what defines whole Mentalist show. They all are brilliant, especially for the era it was done in.
This whole scene is just brilliantly acted!
Same like The Joker "you wouldn't get it"
But Tommy doesn't know that Patrick perfectly understands him because he wants to do the same to Red John so in a way Patrick enjoyed hearing those words because now he is assured that his revenge on Red John would be rewarding, satisfying and redemptive.
Nikolay Stoyanov I don’t think many people got that intrigued look Patrick gave when that sentence was spoken
When he leans back and says , " What do you want to know " , the audience reacts exactly like Lisbon and Rigsby.
well only the ones that coudnt see that coming....
Exactly
Sorry I was not impressed. Sub par Primal Fear.
I don't think his naive playing was convincing. That he may be the one, not necessarily, but that he is playing an act, and not stupid, that's very clear. You can tell from his eyes (which may be intentional by the actor, but nevertheless).
The process of his face changing from “Tommy” to the killer. Amazing performance.
I am a fan of "The Mentalist" and I have watched every episode at least 4 times and I'm still continuing to watch it. This scene is also one of my favorites.
Me too
Knowing Jane's story with Red John that "I know the price of revenge, and it's worth it" and "you wouldn't understand" hit really hard‼️ best scene no doubt
He actually never admits to killing the victims he sidesteps the questions by saying he saw them suffer
His smart
@@andresmdc78 i feel like it would be enough to hold in court
@@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi A good lawyer can work that. On and could object with "calls for speculation" to cancel out that subject.
@@andresmdc78 Makes sense. That's why it's seldom advised to go for a confession before having actually damning physical evidence
@@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi rule #1 only guy you need to speak to is your lawyer. Only speak when he saids to.
It’s ironic, Jane talking about the cost of revenge with him. That line “you wouldn’t understand” and how Baker reacted to it, it’s wonderful. What a performance from both actors.
Jane saw right through Tommy, but Thomas never saw any deeper than Jane's facade.
Really good actors.
Cause what He really wanted was a response If it was worth it or not
"Not yet"
Patrick saw him, but he didn't see Patrick on the same path with the same goal as him.
Both actors deserve an Oscar for this! The microexpresions of both are just true... First when Thomas comes out. And then when Patrick get the only real answer he wanted... Was the revenge worth it? PURE GOLD!
I've watched every episode of "The Mentalist" at least 3 times now, one of my favorite tv series in 65 years of viewing.
Simon Baker truly created an icon and memorable character in his portrayal of Patrick Jane.
Legend has it that the root beer never came..
@VENGEANCE IS A MUST yeah that's called common sense of humour.
I think it's kinda funny that he is asking for raspberry juice in the german version
@@weskers_sunglasses No root beer in Germany? Certainly I have never seen any.
@@stevekaczynski3793 No, actually we have a big beer culture but i have never seen it or heard that someone drunk it here. But i really don't know why they made it raspberry juice instead cause no one is drinking it either haha
Legend has it that the root beer is still coming
When the killer said that line about revenge being redemptive, patrick probably felt good about what his actions might be in the future with red john.
It's called foreshadowing
Exactly
Or hypocrisy
@@DeezUp4Da3zz Hypocrisy is when you pretend to be something you're not. There's nothing hypocritical about Jane in this area.
It's actually much more than that. When Tommy said that he would not understand. The reality is quite the opposite as no other person in that room except Jane who understands EXACTLY how it feels like.
So well written, and acted by everyone in the scene! The change of "Tommy's" facial expression was PERFECT!!! Well done to everyone!!!
This is one of the most underrated shows out there!
"It was... redemptive... you wouldn't understand" - amazing line.
+Philo Janus That line caught my attention too because of how Jane wanted to go after Red John for killing his family.
I wanna a friend
+Philo Janus But the thing is, Jane would understand about twice as much as Tommy does
+Jack Champion
That also makes the fact that Jane revealed him as the killer, twice as strange.
Indeed. Indeed.
I love The face Jane's pulling when Tommy is telling him how worth it revenge is. Its such a small detail but when you look a bit closer you really appreciate it, Simon baker is one hell of an actor :D
one on my small list of favorite actors
I felt like Tommy's satisfaction only encouraged Jane more.
Bomtaker01 Ikrrrr!!!
There is a lot of episodes were talking about revenge, it keeps us reminded about the bigger picture than solving a particular crime of that episode which makes me love this show.
Yea perhaps tommy helped Jane make up his mind on getting revenge
The sparkle Simon Baker has in his eyes is undeniable
I like the way that he is changing his expressions after "the mentalist" says "I can see you". Amazing acting skills!!
THIS.... is a FUCKING amazing actor. Fredrick Koehler is one of my favourite actors ever. The way his face and attitude changed was brilliant, and his confession to Patrick was chilling. I'm serious, this guy needs more recognition! He deserves it! Thumbs up if someone agrees!
His dual performance is this season's premiere of criminal minds was good too.
Agreed. Probably one of my favourite roles of his. Playing twins never was easy. ;)
I'm sorry he didn't sign up to the illuminati
Just like Edward Norton in Primal Fear.
« Being understood is an underrated pleasure »
- Patrick Jane in Season 6
NOT being understood is a pleasure as well, I might say. And by this Im not necessarily talking of hiding.
People like him walk the streets every day. But they can never really hide. Their eyes always give them away. There is always that spark of intelligence in their eyes.
Times when supporting actors are outdoing the leads. Effortlessly.
"You wouldn't understand." This line sent me chills. I exactly know where he's coming from.
Dude. He’s such a good actor. He was in Criminal Minds too as twin psychopaths. It was awesome
yess that’s where i recognize him from!
Also in NCIS New Orleans, latest season
Oh I got to see that
I'm late but he was in law and order svu too!!
Oh, really? Do you know wich season and episode? :D
“I can see you” what a f*ck*ng line!
PS : One of the best shows ever & I miss it dearly to this day
Klaus i watch all the seasons
It's free on Amazon Prime
Great, amazing show. Wish they would bring it back
Do what I did and buy the series on DVD. Now I can go and watch it again whenever.
Agree I miss it too. Good writing. In the city I can tell who watched the mentalist because some people would repeat certain phrases Patrick would say. It helps that he was kinda handsome, us ladies like that stuff.
Oh yeah, I love this episode too! How Tommy "transform" to THomas is scary. The same body and face, but a different person. And I love how this case got solved because of an old book. Amazing!
Please with episode it is?thinks
@@lila2986 Or at least with a book you can try and understand someone’s else’s perspective even if you disagree with them.
"You wouldn't understand" - To the only guy who might understand.
It’s been 10 years...but still Patrick haunts me...what an incredible character...
The best under rated show ever
"Forever immune to the passage of time that shrouds the aging mind that is man" - Patrick Jane
It's True.
@@yoggyoggy agreed 100%
@@elsieluque3806 and also the only series which never bores you no matter how many times you watch
This guy is really good at playing psychopaths
Tommy is good too
He was a child actor on Kate & Allie back in the 80s. Now he plays sleazy or crazy killers. I’ve seen him on Criminal Minds and NCIS New Orleans
@@ryancoulter4797 THAT is where I recognize him from! Holy Cow!
On criminal minds he plays twins one who is evil and one is special as well. He is an amazing actor
Yeah, but I wouldn't call him a psychopath though, he choose a course of action, knowing the consequences, for the sake of his friend.
A truly remarkable actor. The change in character is impressive.
The smile from Jane after the guy says 'u wouldn't understand ' is brilliant
I love Jane's blink at the end, when he says "You wouldn't understand." Because, he -does-. Jane, more than anyone else, understands the lust for revenge, and the full knowingness and acceptance that one has to put themselves through before seeking it. Beautiful writing, beautiful acting. Amazing tv show.
Hm is the person on your profile a human or is it drawn. If it's you it looks very good. I am just curious
@Fullashit Ministries
I think she changed her picture
@Fullashit Ministries
Hm, explain yourself
@Fullashit Ministries or maybe it was an anime character all along. And she just changed the character
This was S1 E9. Do you think that, five years later, Jane sent him clippings and a letter. "I understood completely."
Two great actor's playing off each other.awsome.
actors plural not possessive
@@suzycreamcheesez4371Ladies and gentlemen, here comes the grammar n!zi.
@@stefanode7402 Now Stefano we talked about this! If you play nice you get pudding! And it's "Nazi". There's no asterisk in it. Fix it!!
@@suzycreamcheesez4371 what a waste of exclamation points ...
Illiteracy is the bread and butter of people like Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Xi Jinping, Trump, Bolsonaro et cetera. For to be illiterate means to be easily manipulated, a known quantity, closed off in your own little box, easily moved.
I've watched the show and definitely get Janes brilliance as a "Mentalist" . However, the twist for this episode is even more shocking than when Red John was officially revealed. Jane knew his suspicions were true when he got corrected about Ahabs boat. It was brilliant.
Even though I am unsatisfied with the Red John conclusion, I still love this show because of the top notch iconic scenes like this.
What I love about Jane is that he isn't satisfied with finding the culprit, he has to go inside their mind and break them down so they're so mentally exhausted they confess everything
Yeah. I agree with you, on this one. Rather then accusing them, straight away he tricked them into admitting what he did. ☺☺
Nah. This man wasn't mentally exhausted. There is a small pause before he confesses and he smiles, knowing what Jane just asked and instead of lying, he accepted everything and didn't care that he confessed. He was happy, not exhausted.
@@thesavantart8480 Exactly. The two other commenters couldn't see it.Saying something like ' life imitating art ' is appropriate here.
He is very smart! He didn't actually confess, he just said he watched them burn in agony and that he loved it. Kinda similar to the movie i cant remember the name but the one with Gerard butler that takes revenge on the entire system, after it fails to punish the killer of hes wife and daughter. Where he says he planned it over and over in hes head :) this guy does the same thing, very clever boy haha
Not only is this wonderfully acted, it's also really cleverly written. There's not only a parallel between Tommy and Ahab but also between Tommy and Jane. I wonder if Tommy ever heard of what Jane ended up doing to RJ. I wish there had been a re-visitation of his character. He could have developed so interestingly, especially since The Mentalist is more about interesting main characters than it is about having really deep characters for the killers. It's a real pity that The Mentalist is finishing. I can't help but feel that as great as the show was, 7 seasons aren't enough to capture all the possibilities that could have been.
i so agree with you. I think its a pitty if they had the chance for more seson they could have pult up a new smart serial killer, or killer, or anyway I think patrick jane was a hillerious, amazing main character and personaly its one of the only characters of tv history I found briliant in all his details and facettes, also truely beautiful acted by simon backer a perfect choice in my eyes. credits to all writers and bruna hellers ... I am so sad it's ending
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Agreed, this was a real clever scene indeed. Sadly I never found the protagonists very interesting (aside from Jane and Cho, I just liked him) The recurring antagonists were often much more interesting like Morena Baccarin's and Malcolm McDowell's characters.
I agree wholeheartedly. Though, I'd watch anything Malcolm McDowell is in.
I found Cho interesting because of his back story. Former gang member changed his ways. The whole baseball episode was also really good at sort of showing us his past same as the episode of the kid who stole his car. I also really like lisbon as well. Rigsby and van pelt are whack tho lol
I will forever remember this masterpiece and this series
I have been coming back to watch this video every few months for the last 8 years.
What really makes this scene so beautiful is not the casual switch of Tommy or how Jane reveals him. It's the last line - "You wouldn't understand". It's ironic, since we know that revenge has what driven Jane up until that point. Jane smiles, at this irony. But I think he also smiles because Tommy validates his path - the pleasure that he got from extracting his revenge reassures Jane that his own path of revenge is not futile; he will feel this joy too as he finally takes down Red John.
I felt bad for that kid when he asked,"that root beer coming?". It sounded so sad and pathetic and it seemed like Jane was picking on him. When he dropped the act, my mind was BLOWN!
Verbal Kint did it better, and got away with it!
One of the most underrated tv series ever. I just started watching the series over a few days ago and can never get tired of it
Same, i remeber watching it little bit like a 5-10 years ago but decided to start it properly now. Started a week ago,, season 3 episode 16 atm
Same, i started 1 week ago.season 4 ep.11
Once you Discover who red john is you're Will be pissed ,if wasnt this would be the best series than ive ever watch, but the end is so terrible
@@ytalorafael9710 .... Mentalist has one of the best endings in tv history
Ytalo Rafael 97 Couldn’t agree more. It’s like the writers just gave up. Red John is supposed to be an untouchable. Not who it turned out to be. Loved the show so much up to that point. If it wasn’t for Simon Baker’s perfect portrayal of Patrick Jane I would have never continued to watch.
Props to the actor who played the killer i love when actors can just switch like that on fly. Christopher Reeves did that exact kinda thing when switching from clark kent to superman
Thank you for uploading this, for getting me intrigued few months ago and leading me to discover what I recognise to be one of the best TV series ever made. I just finished the last episode today and it was one hell of a ride. Patrick Jane is gonna be my new favourite character for a long long time. What an amazing show.
I loved this scene because you can almost hear Jane thinking, "I hope so" when Tommy says his revenge was worth it, that it was redemptive.
His face changes ever so slightly when Tommy says its wort it.
Yeah. Such good acting. Somewhat subtle yet noticeable. Jane is always smiling to some degree, but it broadens and reaches his eyes after Tommy says revenge was redemptive.
Just finished the whole show on Prime.
Out of all the seasons / episodes, I will never forget this one. Incredible.
You guys are all right when you say The Mentalist is underrated... even to this day, I haven’t found a show to compare it to.
Bosch gave me a lot of comfort after finishing The Mentalist. They're not necessarily similar but it's so ripe with personality, and its own distinct aura. Well worth a watch if you haven't already.
TunezCottage I’ll check it out, thanks!
Monk is good too
Try it
Prison break may be
"You wouldn't understand" oh boy haha
"You Wouldnt understand" what a line.
and the thing is, Jane actually unterstands very well. The thirst for revenge is what motivated him for 6 seasons.
0:58 Blink and you’ll miss it! When Tommy corrects Jane and tells him that Captain Ahab’s ship is called The Pequod rather than The Peapod, Tommy’s eyes dart back and forth, he realizes his was getting too smart and blew his cover. At 1:49 Jane tells Tommy to lose the act and Tommy smirks, a nervous tick or a nod of recognition, him saying *damn Jane, you’re good.* but it doesn’t stop there. 1:57 he struggles with the dilemma of giving up or keeping the Tommy act going, in a desperate attempt at trying to get off, he asks, “that root beer coming?” The way he phrases this question shows he’s less confident and his voice shows some recoil. Frederick Koehler pulled this character off brilliantly.
why would i miss that, that's literally what is being shown
@@Cro1232cro Lots of people miss the obvious.
@@history_loves_anime8927 then they should be shot
So... you saw the video too... are you really this smooth brained or pulling an act on us too?
And I have to say this is the most underrated comment ☺️👍👏
Little did Tommy knows, Jane is the only person that could understand him.
😅👍Mentalist never fails to amuse me, after the nth time of rewatching..
This will remain the most chilling scene from this series to me and nothing else can change it
"You wouldn't understand." Oh, yes. Yes, he would.
The music plays a huge role in this scene. The mounting tension you feel as he's bit unmasked bit by bit.
Do you know what it's called?
Like the Joker's last line. "You wouldn't get it."
only in this case we sure get it.
JPs joker is a weak, selfish, limited fool. So stupid, he thinks hes gifted. this isnt that.
@@thalivenom4972 That's the beauty of Joker, a stupid fool yet manages to be crazier and least sane out of anybody.
@@L_Lawliet1907 being least sane is desirable to you? jps joker is just narcisistic and selfish. hes not crazy, hes logical. hes deranged, but he has an agenda. insane people dont act like he does.
@@thalivenom4972 Logical? An agenda? Are we watching the same movie here?
He has stated in the movie itself that “do I look like a clown who can start a movement” at the near end. And when he gets freed from the police car, he’s just being carefree, without a worry in the world, meanwhile the people who support his movement think he has a plan. He doesn’t.
He is literally the exact opposite of what you say, if he was say logical he wouldn’t be living in fantasies as shown in the movie. The moment he starts wearing the makeup he doesn’t give a shit about what he does, thus basically a behaviour of a broken man pushed to the limits.
I’m definitely not someone with a degree in psychology, but even a 13 year old can identify a man with nothing to lose.
Still get me EVERY TIME, the shift from Tommy to Thomas, no lighting tricks or computer, just his face morphs into a near completely different person
This dialogue is even more brilliant when you know Jane’s story
2:07 that shift, that's some superb acting.
4:03 well...
Ran Sherman the shift happens in his eyes even before he moves his body. What a great actor.
@@fhpurcell7713 exactly. He looked at him in the eyes like a predator
The actor who plays Thomas is incredible here. I don't know how he manages to change his face so slightly yet so completely at the same time.
Is also the lighting. I just see the change from Tommy asking for the root beer to the real person. He leans back and his face wholly lightened.
This is also a good performance from the camera man and the director.
@@radschele1815 There is an instance before that happens while he is contemplating just before and after the I can see you there is a change in his xpression. It is slight, but it is there. And I think that makes all the difference.
I got some theories that explain this effect : The frowned eyebrows show way more confidence and less surprise in the eyes. The mouth closed show that he controls his respiration too, so he isn't in fight or flee mode. Thomy is never in control of the situation and seems lost, but just with these facial movement thomas appears way more confident and dangerous. + the really great work on the voice too
That moment when Tommy drops the act and his face and posture change. Awesome.
One of the greatest scenes of whole show.
0:49 jane test his memory by making a mistake on purpose calling the the ship peapod.. him answering and correcting jane saying it's a pequod just confirms that he doesn't have brain problems
Yes and no some people with mental disabilities actually are able to hone in and direct a lot of their thinking and understanding to certain things, usually very specific things. Some people are say, able to remember every single Yankees game ever played and every member on the team at any time but ask them what they had for dinner yesterday and they may have no clue. Some may be able to play video games as if they were gods of them but ask them to find something on a computer and they never would or could take hours, it all varies. I believe the ability, or disorder, is called savant syndrome (could be very wrong but I do believe it’s at least similar to that) so him focusing and memorizing moby dick may be on the smaller scale from what I described but it’s not entirely unlikely for him to easily remember it in fact I’d say it’s extremely plausible. Just thought I’d throw my 2 cents in.
As an aside I’m obviously no medical expert and have no formal training these are just observations I’ve made over time and in my current job so if I’m wrong I’d rather people just say so and not try to insult as there’d be no point in doing so.
TheMurry7 true but early in the episode they go to Thomas’s trailer. There they find children’s books. Made to look like he could only read at a child’s level. Hidden away Jane found moby dick. That’s how Jane knew he was pulling an act.
@@TheMurry7 The term is idiot savant.
@@billcollins2798 No, it's savant syndrome. Idiot savant is not the term anymore since the discoveries of acquired savants and savants without any significant drawbacks.
I love this show. The writers are top notch, the acting especially Jane's is amazing and so so clever and real. It is by far one of the best Crime dramas out there and one of the best shows ever
This show was so watchable because the writers hadn't succumbed to SJW LGBTQ bullshit.
Jane almost met his match when he fell for Lorelei Martin.
One of the best scenes of the show. The actor who played Tommy/Thomas did an incredible job.
The change in his expression is scary and unbelievable. Such a great acting
amazing acting Fredrick Koehler should've received an Emmy for this
This small piece of acting does draw me every other year back to this exact video. I can only agree. Quite astounding performance.
I fancy him. And I'm 33 tomorrow. ☺☺
oh wow, this is the best scene ever. thanks for posting
Cara Institute of Advanced Hypnosis iii
If you liked that you'll love this - czcams.com/video/2xv2n2NRPkM/video.html
MAYBE,but"Soul mates,one and two,are enormous too.........
Watch"Soul mates"1/2......These two scenes are great !!!!!!......Winning his bail at Poker with Mafia dudes in jail, is great too.....
Rewatching this series now and came by this episode. A the good old day s of TV.
One of the best crime thriller series.. After this whenever I watch another series felt like it's not good enough like mentalist.Those Characters and narration were top notch.
2:04 "I can see you"
Simple writing, but so dope
Looks like Jane admires him in a way. He knows he's on the same path.
Jane: "I confess, I never did get to the ending. Ahab does die doesn't he?"
Tommy: "Yes, but so does the whale."
Jane: "That's my point, revenge doesn't come cheap."
Tommy: "Oh, spare me your moralizing. I know what revenge costs. It's worth the price."
And then at the end when Tommy says: "You wouldn't understand,", Jane blinks twice, almost to silently say that he does understand.
Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. Amazing acting regardless.
Morse code? Two blinks for yes
You're not reading too much into it. It's all there.
2 blinks for yes and one for no
That's the Morse code he used with red John right? That what u mean?
Jane is on his own quest for revenge, and is a killer himself. I recall at least 3 murders he commits, one indirect (when he sets up a guy to be killed by Red John).
not reading into it..or if you are then you aint alone. I noticed the same thign and saw the whole scene again..you can see everyone blink every now and then, but jane doesnt.he blinks only once towards end when Tommy starts to talk. And after Tommy says Jane wouldn't understand, Jane blinks twice deliberately.Twice.While smiling slightly. Thats not nothign.
I started watching the mentalist a couple of months ago, and when I saw this scene, I literally had goosebumps.
I've watched this scene a million times. I feel like I could watch it a million more . . .
*"It was redemptive."* years later, it's still stuck on me
The Mentalist is in my top 5 shows easily. Simon Baker became a favorite actor with the role of Jane. This was an awesome scene. The whole cast was amazing.
true
And the other 4 in top 5 ?
Dexter
Hannibal
The mentalist
Mindhunter
Or may be Dahmer
This was the scene that TOTALLY HOOKED me on the show! That subtle transformation of his personality once he was called out... BRILLIANT!!!
"You wouldn't understand" He is like the only person in the world who would understand because he's planning to do the same for Red John 😀
"Hello... nice to meet you"
Favorite line of his. Every time he finally convinces someone to drop the act and be real with him, the first thing he does is greet them like a human being for the first time.
"You wouldn't understand" he says to a man whose quest for vengeance makes the Count of Monte Cristo look like a bumbling amateur.
It takes a really, _really_ good actor to play a character who is, themselves, playing a character.
This scene on CZcams made me watch the entire show in one go so good..