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Season 2 Episode 5: And It's Surely To Their Credit
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I loved that Tribbey backed Sam up without hesitation.
I was just thinking about that! There's no way Tribbey knows about the bouquet. At best he heard "harassment suit" and knew everyone's personalities. Yet no hesitation.
Ohhhh yes he can... delivered perfectly
@@user-xh9dd1pn7gI was going to type that. It is spectacular
It probably helps that those two were the idiots who gave false testimony about a memo that Tribbey was complaining about when he was introduced.
Lionel was head counsel for a reason, if Sam is firing somebody, Lionel is smart enough to know whatever the reason was - it's valid - Sam Seaborne "doesn't do stupid".
The way John Spencer says "I know" to Ainsley's confession about the op-ed is genius acting.
John Spencer had a way with dialogue, where he could tell an entire dramatic story with throwaway lines like that.
Leo was an old hand on the hill. He knew how things operated and tried very hard to never take things personally. Also, she got a white house job, the back ground check on her would have been EXTENSIVE.
@@RandalBauer11 Combine excellent writing with the perfect actors and this is what you get. I agree with you about John Spencer, he was great. But if you see the actress that played Ainslee Hayes in some of the roles she had later in her career, you could tell she couldn't over come poor scripts. Directing, writing and acting. When they are all top notch you get West Wing. They come together too seldom.
Ainsley’s “Can you be rude to me tomorrow” and the fact that Sam follows up has stuck with me for a long time. It’s stylized but I think it’s an impressive example of mindfully taking accountability while also advocating for herself. It’s an impressive example of conflict resolution through deescalation and connection, and worth emulating.
The “I’m having an emotional breakdown have sympathy for me” tactic only works if you’re a woman. Fair warning.
If people - women included - already don’t respect a man, they will just think he’s weak and further disrespect him if he feigns a breakdown like Ainsley.
Ainsley and Leo had the sweetest relationship. She was a great character.
"It's time for both of you to write your book now."
That is not a "burn", that is an immolation!
That was a not-so-subtle signal that not only were they fired, but they had no future left in the public sector. Nobody writes a book about their government career until they've retired, or just before.
@@r.c.auclair2042 Good point!
Also super accurate. That's how 99% of the low level operatives make real money. You get big enough you get insider trading info or you get cushy "consulting," jobs or lobbying. But most of the low level people just write a book for a 6 figure advance. Weird thing is, no one actually buys these books either, if anything of interest is in them, the press just reports on it so you don't need to read it. I don't get why publishers keep paying for these books but they do. The Trump Admin was a fucking gold rush for these types of books. The economy for low level Trump Admin staffer tell alls could probably have funded a small country.
@@chamberlainalex1, not to mention that administration's turnoff was higher than that of McDonald's, so the market was flooded with a good deal more books than in previous years.
Nowadays would it be 'It's time for you to start a CZcams channel now"?
Leo was not exactly kidding when he said that when Sam gets mad he leaves a Sam-shaped hole in the wall.
109%❤
Ainsley was a terrific addition, though underused. The entire cast was top notch, and Sorkin gave them amazing words and situations.
One of my favourite subplots in The West Wing. Emily Procter was great and really held her own when acting with the main cast.
Too bad she wasn't in more episodes, I guess the writers couldn't find any more subplots to include Emily.
@@Dirk-van-den-BergAaron Sorkin really wanted her to join the cast, but thought it would be one too many people.
I love that Leo doesn’t hold to op-ed against her.
He’s not mad because she was doing her job. He might have done the same thing in her position. Now, he expects her to continue doing her job for her new team.
Yeah, it really shows his maturity and respect for the public debate so necessary for a working political system.
Don’t recall all the details about the role, yet think part of the backstory was that Leo served as a fighter pilot in the USAF. Regardless of the branch, teamwork and doing the job were core principles. These values are accurately represented here as noted above.
It also shows his respect for her integrity. He knows that she has always fought for what she believes in, even if those things are what he's in total opposition to, and that is something they both have in common.
John Spencer had a smile to light up the world ❤
This would have been even better with the Gilbert and Sullivan “He is an Englishman” scene when Ainsley returns to her office greeted by Sam and CJ.
And Toby and Josh
Emily Procter is so great here. She immediately recognizes the privilege of working in the White House outweighed her office in the steam trunk pipe distribution venue.
I think she recognized that Leo was welcoming her and giving her a complement that room IS her office. Its not everyday that the Chief of Staff for the President walks you to a basement office
I can work in the steam trunk pipe distribution venue.. no problemo..
I miss television like this!
The elevated, thoughtful, and intelligent comments found here are testaments to the caliber of West Wing viewers and fans. And, all of you know exactly what I mean . . .
This show during the Sorkin years was flawless.
Yes, Sorkin's Democrats were invariably brilliant, high-minded and competent, driven to serve, not a petty bone in their body. One Republican in a thousand distinguishes himself from the snooty, supercilious, unlikeable and unsympathetic pack. Realism like we have not seen before or since.
@@kevinobrien9626Yup
@@kevinobrien9626 It's not supposed to be realistic. It's supposed to be modeling the way politics could and should be. While also hiding civics lessons in a digestible form.
And it's not about the democrats being flawless it about people raising above their flaws. The encounter with Sam starts with him being petty. And then realizing he was being the asshole.
I really missed Ainsley after she was gone from the show.
It was such a nice touch that she came back for Leo's funeral.
Best writers. Best actors. Great show.
With little umbrellas!
Shish kebab!
The President of What?
I love Sam’s moment, after Ainsley asks him to be “rude to me tomorrow”, where he do clearly acknowledges to himself: “I was just a total jerk.”
Rob Lowe WAS Sam.
I don't care about Sam going down and yelling at the assholes and firing them. I don't care about Tribby. The scene with Sam and Ainsley, Ainsley's obvious passion for her work about to break and then Sam's realization and coming to apologize, and then maybe the beginnings of his rage. That was absolutely perfect. It was perfect writing and perfect execution by the actors.
Every time I see this, in my head, the second Sam turns around, I hear the glass shatter, and Stone Cold Steve Austin's music start. Cause Sam is going upstairs to whip a man's ass! And rightfully so!
Arrive. You're Fired. Leave.
They should've made Ainsley a main cast member she was so great.
I miss everything about this show. Sam, Josh and Ainsley talks a brilliant story
Went from wanting to fight her to then fighting for her.
Ainsley should have been in every episode after her intro...she was awesome!
They weren't ready to offer her to being a main character but CSI Miami was apparently.
She was so good, she got a starring role in another show.
@@Namath1000 Emily Procter did 232 episodes of CSI Miami when the entire run of The West Wing was 154 episodes for some perspective.
@@joemckim1183 Yup, it's hard to argue that she didn't make the right decision for her own career but I would have loved to see how the dynamic between the main cast and Ainsley would have evolved over time. She played really well off both Sam and Leo, it's a shame we never really got to see her interact much with Toby, Josh and C. J.
Emily does a great job acting the part of someone who respects the idea of working for her govt and people, even though it means working for her complete opposite political party. I sort of identify in that I don't like most of the politics in the show, but I love to rewatch because of how well written, acted, and directed the series shows.
I know exactly what you mean...
Oh, you have no idea how much that warms my heart ❤️
I’ve been a huge admirer of The West Wing for 20 years now. Besides the fact that I’m generally on the same line politically and socially, more than anything it’s the quality of the writing and the acting that deeply touches me.
The idealism and the intelligence of the whole cast of main and supporting characters are just beyond compare.
And seeing someone who appreciates this, whether you agree with the policies or not, is very encouraging 🙏🙏🙏
On top of that, it shows a world in which people can have opposing ideas but still keep a civilized discussion.
This version hits a lot differently than the other ones floating around CZcams. There's a lot more gravitas to this one.
Now I have to go look up 'gravitas'😶
Ainsley was so great ❤
One of the most perfect scenes I’ve ever seen in film or television!
I had forgotten that John Larroquette had guest starred on The West Wing.
Those guys were defiant with Sam but wanted absolutely no smoke from Tribbey
Have you seen that man's cricket bat?
@@masterofdesaster8 Presented to him by the Queen herself
Rob Lowe had been chosen to head up this show... HIS starring role. That's why he was the first actor in the opening credits. But then Martin Sheen took over as main subject.
Martin Sheen took over the moment he ousted that fringe "church" group in the pilot, can you blame him for his charisma?
Presidents tend to take up a lot of the available air.
To be fair, if your show is called "The West Wing", you damn well better show the President. From my understanding, Sheen was only supposed to be a guest actor in a handful of episodes. BIG mistake if they had followed through on that. That said, they had a stellar cast overall.
"Sam I don't know who you think you are around here but you can't fire us"
Sam: "I'm the Deputy Head of Communications and you work(ed) in the Communications department....so yes I can. But if you prefer I can call Toby and Leo in here and they can do it too."
"OH.... YES he can."
Greatest office ever. I would love it.
while not all offices in the white house are created equal, an office in the white house is still an office in the white house. i'll start in the steam trunk pipe distribution venue and say thank you, just like she did. ainsley was a great character.
One of my favorite Ainsley related lines is when she meets Bartlett, but is hiding in the closet and Bartlett says "they don't allow me to smoke in here but she gets to pee in Leos closet" (or something close to that)
Leo and Sam were straight up class all the way.
Ainsley Hayes was great. Leo is a keen judge of talent.
someone needs to make tv shows like this again...
I'd be insulted. Giving her this "office" is obviously meant to be an insult.
Most American TV is a triviality with a few exceptions. This series and NEWSROOM are exceptions ! Looking at out-takes from this series in light of the current political environment in our capitol makes me- Sad, Angry, Affraid, Apprehensive, and wanting to find a different planet to move to :-( Nevertheless, I KNOW THE UNITED ETATES OF AMERICA will win through the day. In addition, I have great respect for our Founding Fathers because of the way they set things up to ensure that chaos and dire times in this country only makes us stronger. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE GREATEST NATION THAT EVER EXISTED AND CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THIS EARTH. THIS COUNTRY MAY ALSO PROVE TO BE THE GREATEST IN THE GALAXGH AND PROBABLY FAR, FAR INTO THE FUTURE !
Oh, trust me, Will would have needed to be on medication today.
*_IT WAS PENZANCE_*
It's the one about duty
@@roughrider6129They're all about duty. 😆
The 1 downvote is one of the chooches that got fired.
EDIT: 27 Chooches
😂. Absolutely
@alfye7647 "Chooch" really needs to be a part of more people's vocabulary. Such a great word!
I started watching West Wing because of the scene with Sam firing those two.
Thanks for the clips. I really love your edits. But, why is the tail piece so loud? The ending is too loud.
I loved Ainsley’s character, shame she wasn’t in it for long🙁
Way to go, Sam.
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I wish there would be a follow-up series with Sam in the White House
That office has more square footage by far than most white house offices.
Sam and Josh were such polar opposites. Josh Lyman was the attack dog, the guy that would loudly and publicly cut your balls off if you pissed him off.
But Sam Seaborn was the quiet crusader. If he saw something wrong, he never hesitated. No matter what it may cost, he would fight it...and the madder he was, the quieter he got. He did not just fight. He eliminated.
Can someone help clarify for me how did Sam know those guys sent the bouquet? Is there something missing? They were just the last people she talked with
i know some people will say sam was white knighting, which perpetuates that a woman needs a man to stick up for her, but while it is true that women don't need men to stick up for them, it doesn't negate the fact that a man should stick up for a woman, especially against other men. sam was really just sticking up for a coworker who had taken just a couple too many blows that day. sam went and blew those guys away.
Let's take the identity politics out of the equation....please. let's not tell anyone to not...stick up for others. No man or woman is an island. White-Knighting is a terrible misnomer for being a Good Samaritan. Don't demonize a good deed unless you don't want people to do good things.
It takes great character to stand up for another and put your skin on the line. Trvializing that virtue is sign of the decline of civilization.
Sometimes women do need men to stick up for them. And vice-versa.
STEAM PIPE TRUNK DISTRIBUTION
VENUE
is that a real thing or Sorkin genius?😮
Please upload Democratic Women's Caucus scene from WW S4e09 Swiss Diplomacy.
"No, because I am not a woman." -Lionel Tribbey
Ah yes, white knighting, feminism and misogyny all in one episode... it was fantastic!
Ainsley was such a great character, I wish she was in more episodes but left early on to star in CSI Miami🥹
This rips me apart because I know how their storyline ends. 😢🥲
I enjoyed the show but lost all respect for the actors who pushed for liberal agenda. The episode where they did for the election i totally lost my respect for each one of those actors.
because they had an opinion? This scene, hell the entire show sometimes is literally about respecting someone despite the fact they do not share all of your opinions.