Can the OKC Thunder Really Make a Run with This Little Playoff Experience? | JJ Redick & Tim Legler

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  • čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
  • This week we've got a packed episode of 'The Old Man and the Three.' In the first half of the episode, Tim Legler joins to help give a full breakdown of the NBA playoff picture during the regular season's home stretch. In this teaser clip, Legler and JJ go in-depth on why and why not they think Shai Gilegeous-Alexander, Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams, and the Oklahoma City Thunder could make a deep playoff run given their youth and lack of playoff experience.
    Subscribe to The Old Man and The Three podcast w/ JJ Redick (ESPN / First Take) and Tommy Alter CZcams channel today for more NBA analysis, player interviews and highlights.
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  • @jamesprater126
    @jamesprater126 Před měsícem +407

    Absolutely love this podcast. Keep getting Tim on. We all want Sicko level basketball talk

    • @tdiens420420
      @tdiens420420 Před měsícem +8

      Check all city nba pod with Legler and Mares it's great.

    • @eaglesheat1926
      @eaglesheat1926 Před měsícem +3

      yep! Rob Parker hating he can't do it so he call it "mumbo jumbo" smh.

    • @Maver1ck101
      @Maver1ck101 Před měsícem

      That Rob who does the podcast with Brou! Yeah, I can see he's jealous. I'm pretty sure he's jealous of Brou too; his TV analyst career is nowhere near these guys'!
      @@eaglesheat1926

    • @Christian-xr7hc
      @Christian-xr7hc Před měsícem

      @@eaglesheat1926can you catch me up on this? was Rob talking about JJ or Tim’s takes?

    • @eazymoneysnipe
      @eazymoneysnipe Před měsícem

      This

  • @davedstrzykalski2193
    @davedstrzykalski2193 Před měsícem +42

    Crazy how much more insightful this is than anything on ESPN

    • @whitekidslikeweed
      @whitekidslikeweed Před měsícem +3

      Could you imagine Perkins trying to articulate like this? Lmfao

    • @That1kid68
      @That1kid68 Před 28 dny

      These two guys are always insightful on ESPN. But that's a television network with commercial breaks and multiple topics and stories to cover. This is a podcast where they can hone in on fewer topics to go more in depth.

  • @tombystander
    @tombystander Před měsícem +415

    Dort had one of the most gangster game 7s any undrafted guy ever has
    Ps: jdub is a menace in 4th qtrs

    • @stuartstevens8995
      @stuartstevens8995 Před měsícem +9

      dort is not very good my dude hahah

    • @7jcjg
      @7jcjg Před měsícem +137

      @@stuartstevens8995 sure, he is just a key piece to the top team in the west. clown.

    • @michaelb6344
      @michaelb6344 Před měsícem +103

      @@stuartstevens8995he’s one of the best defenders in the league shooting over 40% from three. Every playoff team needs a role player like that

    • @nikithkadambi4208
      @nikithkadambi4208 Před měsícem +67

      ​@@stuartstevens8995casuals exposing themselves

    • @MeMe-ef5fw
      @MeMe-ef5fw Před měsícem

      ​@@stuartstevens8995casual

  • @GrandmasterBootyTrash
    @GrandmasterBootyTrash Před měsícem +75

    Here's a synopsis on JDub for people that would like to know:
    He's a 6'6 wing/guard with a 7'2 wingspan that can create off the dribble, great passer, elite finisher, and very efficient from mid-range and 3. He can run the offense but is also great off-ball with his efficient catch and shoot and timely cuts. He is a BULL in transition and can GET UP with the best of them. On defense he is switchable 1-5 and is excellent on ball and off ball, getting in passing lanes, as a helpside defender, and is an absolute HIGH energy guy. He usually guards the other team's 2nd best player (Lu Dort guards the best) but can easily be the best defender on most teams in the league. Not to mention, JDub is an All-NBA team vibes guy. He's 22, high energy on and off the court, great interviewer and is just a good dude. He's got it all.

    • @djsppacecowboy1
      @djsppacecowboy1 Před měsícem +8

      I’m a wolves fan, but I gotta say I don’t think jdub gets enough love when people talk about the thunder.

    • @calebwhitcraft1664
      @calebwhitcraft1664 Před měsícem +4

      @@djsppacecowboy1 last year in summer league, J-Dub is who I got the most hyped for. Chet was always going to be an alien with some questions but Dub was special.

    • @Sok12111
      @Sok12111 Před měsícem +2

      he grew up Idolizing Kobe and even had Kobe bedsheets , his game is in many ways inspired by Kobe's efficiency/pull-up game

    • @curtsNcali
      @curtsNcali Před 27 dny +2

      yeah you right cuz if I am a defender, I might rather guard SGA over Jdub but I kinda wonder if the Thunder want the public to not think about this cuz it gives them an advantage. Kinda like hoping the other team keeps assuming Josh Giddy is not very good too lol
      But JDub has this uncanny ability to make shots that are off balance, fading away, 3s, off the glass, fade aways, mid range jumpers, dunks, there is nothing he can't shoot and there is a Dirk Nowitzki look and feel to it cuz it looks like he is gonna miss the shot but then it goes in! wtf

  • @KenEL210
    @KenEL210 Před měsícem +192

    Let’s not forget that Shai and Dort both played in the World Championships with Canada and BEAT the US for 3rd place. I love Tim Legler when he joins the JJ pod; his analysis is always insightful.

    • @Andy-bk4zr
      @Andy-bk4zr Před měsícem +10

      yea but the rules and atmosphere is different. You need depth and experience in a 7 game series not 1 game.

    • @benoz9303
      @benoz9303 Před měsícem +14

      I think that's different because it's a single elimination game. A 7 game series is different because you got to beat the same team 4 times.

    • @CP104_
      @CP104_ Před měsícem +17

      But the way Shai carried himself under pressure in FIBA really raised my confidence for him in the playoffs.
      Also the rest of the team has a dog mentality and the coaching is awesome.

    • @danielrasmussen2167
      @danielrasmussen2167 Před měsícem +2

      Let's also remember that the US roster was flawed and well short of even the top 5 possible rosters available to them. And Canada's roster was about as good as it could possibly get for them.

    • @babybenj52
      @babybenj52 Před měsícem +2

      The point is, they got that playoff style experience under their belts. Gained some qualities that will help them come playoff time.

  • @asafmoreno6999
    @asafmoreno6999 Před měsícem +66

    Could listen to these two all day

  • @FreshYoungDude
    @FreshYoungDude Před měsícem +83

    Hope JJ knows how much we appreciate him as fans.

    • @realtalk2046
      @realtalk2046 Před měsícem

      Honestly

    • @masonknowsball
      @masonknowsball Před 13 dny

      Facts. It’s awesome to see someone who loves the game as much as us fans that also wants to share his knowledge with us.

  • @johnjkelly2012
    @johnjkelly2012 Před měsícem +127

    They play with a ton of energy too. Nothing seems too slow

  • @austindarr13
    @austindarr13 Před měsícem +117

    okc gonna be a scary team for years to come

    • @seanwaters9710
      @seanwaters9710 Před měsícem +11

      Especially considering their arsenal of early draft picks they have stockpiled. Their going to have soo many options to trade for the exact player(s) they need.

    • @jtaustinmusic
      @jtaustinmusic Před měsícem +1

      Denver isn't going anywhere for a while

    • @warhammerfaction
      @warhammerfaction Před měsícem +7

      @@jtaustinmusicage is a factor for them in three years no concern for the thunder even in five years from a age perspective

    • @MEanPenguin908
      @MEanPenguin908 Před měsícem +3

      Until the bills come due.

    • @jdwilmoth
      @jdwilmoth Před měsícem +2

      ​@@MEanPenguin908 the thunder is way under the salary cap

  • @jeremyweller755
    @jeremyweller755 Před měsícem +13

    Appreciate these two giving OKC a lot of airtime.Excited for the playoffs!

    • @mosessupposes2571
      @mosessupposes2571 Před měsícem +1

      The main reason Thunder gets any tv time is because the organization had to buy their tv rights from abc for Friday home games. Otherwise all we would ever get to watch was the Lakers and the Warriors regardless how their season is going. The losing Lakers get waaay more tv time than the winning Thunder. Big market snobs and hogs.

  • @Ixtwis7edXi
    @Ixtwis7edXi Před měsícem +130

    Regardless how our season ends in the play offs the youngins gettin play off experience. We are young and our window is open

    • @shiningwizard202
      @shiningwizard202 Před měsícem +43

      You guys are in such a good position, just stay patient. As a Celtics fan, the honeymoon media phase for SGA will end quicker than you think (see Tatum, Booker, Mitchell, etc) and they’ll will come down hard on him each year he doesn’t get it done but push through that and enjoy the growth. Your team is full of dawgs and a vet is gonna come along and help tremendously.

    • @nikithkadambi4208
      @nikithkadambi4208 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@shiningwizard202it's already ended unfortunately

    • @WhoAskewww
      @WhoAskewww Před měsícem

      once Chet becomes a lebron, draymond , jokic type player thats when they will take the next step @@shiningwizard202

    • @phamawa
      @phamawa Před měsícem

      Better capitalize during SGA's contract, because he aint staying in OKC his whole career.

    • @OKCmiko
      @OKCmiko Před měsícem

      @@phamawaplayers hardly do that anymore

  • @OneN9NA
    @OneN9NA Před 27 dny +4

    I love how you give so many small market teams love when they deserve it JJ. I feel like you’re the only one in the media actually talking about OKC in depth about what they are doing this season and putting some respect on them for the success they have been having. I’m so tired of hearing about the Lakers and Warriors constantly when they’re just fighting for a play-in spot. Keep it up JJ! Love your work!

  • @linnstr8609
    @linnstr8609 Před měsícem +30

    Just elite basketball knowledge from JJ and Tim. They have good chemistry and both were 3-point specialists. These two are the same person just 18 years apart lol

  • @nm93932
    @nm93932 Před měsícem +11

    Watching the okc since the start of the rebuild, you can see their progress. That is why it was fun watching them even though they lost, they learned and improved. That is why I wasn't surprised that they reached this far. They are developing their players wells.

  • @kellnworldpeace
    @kellnworldpeace Před měsícem +6

    Man, JJ has me locked in every week with his honest insight. What a gift.
    As an OKC resident, I’m expecting the worst but hoping for the best. This team has been bucking expectations all season. As far as I’m concerned, let it ride and come what may. OKC is playing with house money at this point.

    • @dean1161
      @dean1161 Před měsícem +1

      Regardless of what happens it’s the proper experience that outweighs the lows

  • @accordingtodrew7302
    @accordingtodrew7302 Před měsícem +11

    As an OKC fan my hope is at least get to the second and get it to 6 games. I think next season is the year the league will be scared of OKC. They’ll finally have the taste of playoff experience at that young age and along with this teams Chemistry and upside. It’s gonna be real scary. Plus they got chips to cash in on a big name guy if they please so

    • @Bob-te3le
      @Bob-te3le Před měsícem +2

      Totally agree. Starting next year Chet is gonna take a huge jump and make the Thunder take that next huge jump into title contenders year in year out.

  • @ThunderUp85
    @ThunderUp85 Před měsícem +16

    We've already won this year growth wise, it's all about getting the experience from now on. I think Chet, SGA, and Jdub will do just fine in a playoff situation, but the odds are against us. Stay humble Thunder Nation as we don't need any bad MoJo.

  • @chrisc2131
    @chrisc2131 Před měsícem +13

    Ain’t no one even mentioning our best 6th man-“Loud City” gona be turnt up

    • @CouLands
      @CouLands Před měsícem +3

      It’s already getting there. Last night’s game was lit- against an injured Jazz on a Wednesday. We back

  • @prollemchild1121
    @prollemchild1121 Před měsícem +13

    What a time to be an OKC fan!!!! #ThunderUp

  • @charlescohen6140
    @charlescohen6140 Před měsícem +14

    MVP is Sam Presti who chooses kids based on character as well as talent. He might get a piece given their cap space and/or from the draft, (Houston’s) pick. And several first rounders in the 2025 draft.

    • @Bob-te3le
      @Bob-te3le Před měsícem +4

      Man the Thunder are young and great and like you pointed out they got a bunch of picks coming up. They're gonna be loaded for a long time.

  • @elijahcolas1954
    @elijahcolas1954 Před měsícem +29

    Paul George has said “ We don’t have an identity” for 3 different teams, pacers, thunder, and clippers, the clips are doomed 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @loodakris5928
      @loodakris5928 Před měsícem +5

      Haha he’s a bus rider!

    • @EchoLeague2
      @EchoLeague2 Před měsícem +2

      That tends to happen on a Paul George team. Coming from a Thunder fan

    • @Ericrawnsley
      @Ericrawnsley Před měsícem

      The clippers do have an identiy though, they are load management never healthy group. Literally made the 65 game rule almost because of them

  • @craigmoore9194
    @craigmoore9194 Před měsícem +3

    YES! As a since the beginning Homer OKC fan, I approve this message. OKC is the story of this year.

  • @FireMaster123
    @FireMaster123 Před měsícem +4

    Love this podcast. JJ and Tim are doing great things for basketball.

  • @Pickn4Gold
    @Pickn4Gold Před měsícem +22

    Young teams can play into the finals without experience, but knowing what playoff basketball is compared to regular season or college is a big step most champions have to take.

    • @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto
      @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto Před měsícem

      Nope you're wrong the teams that are too young to have no playoff experience like OKC they do not plan to the finals that's where you're wrong that goes against them because experience matters more than you even think the only people that talk like that are arrogant juveniles which you probably are know that matters you have to have playoff experience battle tested experience which OKC does not also okay see is a finesse team they're not physical so more physical team will wear them down and the in the playoffs not regular season we're talking playoffs those teams will destroy OKC no question and will wear them down that would be a nightmare for OKC and you win as a team you lose as a team and they're not going to beat any of those three teams in the playoff series where the stakes are higher and everything gets more intense

    • @Pickn4Gold
      @Pickn4Gold Před měsícem +2

      @@thetruthofChristwillneverbesto I stopped reading when I realized you don't know what punctuation is, which makes it really difficult to follow your rant. You seem to hate "arrogant juveniles" and writing like adults so, you're a contradiction.
      You seem worked up, I wish you wrote legibly so I didn't have to try to decode it.

  • @AidanXavier988
    @AidanXavier988 Před měsícem +4

    Love the love for Dub! Watched every Thunder game this szn and those crazy stats are legit. MIP convo is absolutely sleeping

  • @pathfinderjan
    @pathfinderjan Před měsícem +2

    Tim should be here more frequently. Love listening to Tim with JJ.

  • @ranethomason5391
    @ranethomason5391 Před měsícem +2

    much love from OKC, JJ ⚡let em know

  • @TheGod2go
    @TheGod2go Před měsícem +10

    Thank you for talking about us.

  • @Arthur-ew5en
    @Arthur-ew5en Před měsícem +2

    So much better when you two are live together 😂❤️

  • @conejo87lol
    @conejo87lol Před měsícem +2

    JJ is such a blessing for true NBA fans.

  • @cartert6744
    @cartert6744 Před měsícem +2

    Watching Shai perform against the Pelicans last year in the Play-In was absolutely spectacular to watch 🤩 made me become a fan

  • @YakosIoakim
    @YakosIoakim Před měsícem +3

    Now all of you here, listen all these guys and their summer preseason predictions when they completely failed to even see the OKC coming:) I saw them however, from the other side of the world🎉❤

  • @awethinic8379
    @awethinic8379 Před měsícem +4

    The one thing this young team is overlooked. They play for each other. So when the crunch comes of playoff games. The team concept, the team needs this, the team is depending on me, well this higher calling may be the counter to their inexperience. Ive also seen different formations utilized at times to counter shai’s double team that maybe used in the playoffs.

  • @edsonsumbana7209
    @edsonsumbana7209 Před měsícem +2

    SGA play in the midst of the paint with the most flexible bigs in history, it is just a testament of how wicked this boy is at the game of basketball (he does damage with less dribbles than Kyrie. Wonderful to see

  • @reginakarnes3654
    @reginakarnes3654 Před 7 dny

    Yes been watchin for a long long time!

  • @danielpolly7079
    @danielpolly7079 Před měsícem +1

    Tremendous episode. I am not a huge podcast guy but this was great. Legler and Reddick do a great job together. Lifelong Sonic/Thunder fan and I’m starting to get excited for playoff basketball. Different feeling from KD/Russ days and can’t really explain why but this should be fun. West is loaded top to bottom. I still don’t trust Curry and the Warriors, Durant and the Suns and LeBron and the Lakers will be easy outs regardless of their teams current position. West playoff matchups are going to be insane!

  • @brycetheoddball
    @brycetheoddball Před měsícem +20

    Experience didn’t matter for Shaq or KD until they went all the way to finals, got swept and then never made it back until they had to switch teams.

    • @R3Y1023
      @R3Y1023 Před měsícem +8

      Shai is not Shaq or KD sorry

    • @brycetheoddball
      @brycetheoddball Před měsícem +6

      @@R3Y1023 you’re right. He’s not.

    • @JayElDiplee
      @JayElDiplee Před měsícem +1

      @@brycetheoddball do you think he has the potential to be as good/better?

    • @Mr.Byrnes
      @Mr.Byrnes Před měsícem

      @@JayElDipleeeasily

    • @queefinatorgaming7604
      @queefinatorgaming7604 Před měsícem +6

      @@R3Y1023 i mean hes the best guard in all of basketball but youre right hes not shai can actually lead a team😂

  • @tommystrickland6268
    @tommystrickland6268 Před měsícem +8

    Im a suns fan but jaylen williams (if i didnt spell it right my bad) is awesome everytime i see them play i think hes great

    • @matheusfernandes2102
      @matheusfernandes2102 Před měsícem +2

      Jalen is J-Dub, Jaylin is J-Will

    • @tommystrickland6268
      @tommystrickland6268 Před měsícem +2

      @matheusfernandes2102 thank you I know which one is which when watching them play I just can't ever remember which ones first name is spelled which way

    • @ThunderUp85
      @ThunderUp85 Před měsícem +2

      Thunder fan..Dbook +KD= scary combo

    • @tommystrickland6268
      @tommystrickland6268 Před měsícem

      @tyobie they definitely can be they both just get stuck in the iso state of mind too much but when the ball is moving around and both of them are involved they can be really great

    • @ThunderUp85
      @ThunderUp85 Před měsícem +1

      @@tommystrickland6268 100! I love that you guys got Grayson Allen as well. My 12 year old daughter is a suns fan so there will be some jawing going on in our house tomorrow night lol

  • @kibirdie
    @kibirdie Před měsícem +1

    “Outside of Giddy” 😂 same

  • @derekboyt3383
    @derekboyt3383 Před 10 dny +1

    It’s all about POSSESSIONS and scoring EFFICIENCY. OKC, Dallas and Indiana are top ten in both and will be a tough opponent for everyone. Boston struggles with getting possessions but they make up for it in efficiency in a BIG way. OKC struggles against teams that dominate the pain because the efficiency goes up dramatically for those teams in that matchup. Keeping the pace high and getting transition points during the playoffs will be important for the Thunder because that reduces the impact of paint matchups.

  • @charlescohen6140
    @charlescohen6140 Před měsícem +5

    An OKC freak who believes they are the future but realistically the West is very tough. It might come down to injuries and the match-ups. Expect Chet to be there in the big games but the timeline is still ahead of schedule with next year being definitely tough. Don’t be surprised if Josh doesn’t play really well as he is different.

    • @EchoLeague2
      @EchoLeague2 Před měsícem

      I think we could send a team or two packing if we play really well but the lack of rebounding will get us at some point , *cough cough* nuggets

    • @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto
      @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto Před měsícem

      I'm not saying they don't matter they matter to some degree but basketball is a team game you win and you lose as a team seriously hear me out that's why you see a lot of these foreign teams like Slovenia or Serbia or Argentina they win as a team they went over the USA team you don't win as matchups you win as a team and yes it does matter because in the best of 7 even if it's an upset, the better team won that series regardless who you play regardless what team you play the better team is going to be the the better team obviously the better the best of 7 regardless what round the better team is always going to win it always will be a team game not a matchup game game it's a team win a team game the better team will always win in the best of 7up the better team

    • @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto
      @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto Před měsícem

      ​@@EchoLeague2Denver will destroy you guys don't even don't even try in the playoffs Denver will annihilate you they might even sweep you you might even get swept by Denver if you can't beat a lower seed don't even think about being in Denver Denver will eat you guys up for lunch Denver's got size length and they've also got physicality OKC is a finesse team plus they don't have any experience at all and experience matters you're going to be lucky to get even one victory in a series against Denver we're talking playoffs not regular season not to mention two of the games in the regular season we're back to backs on the losses for Denver that's right and one of them all had just barely got back from his injury you have enough trouble with the Lakers if you can't beat the Lakers you sure as hell ain't beating Denver you'll get swept by Denver don't even don't even try that's an arrogant dumb juvenile OKC fan talking that's you that's right Denver will probably sweep you and for sure you don't want to see Denver in a playoff series the playoffs is a different animal you dumb clown

    • @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto
      @thetruthofChristwillneverbesto Před měsícem

      ​@EchoLeague2 Denver will sweep okc in a PLAYOFFS SERIES KEYWORD PLAYOFFS SERIES STOP YOUR NAIVE ARROGANCE IF YOU CANT BEAT THE FAKERS IN A PLAYOFFS SERIES DONT EVEN THINK OF TRYING TO BEAT DENVER YOU WILL GET SWEPT ESPECIALLY BY DENVER Denver is a different animal in the playoffs I guarantee you you'll be lucky if you don't get swept guaranteed if Denver could sweep the Lakers and the Lakers can beat you guys you're going to get swept the same way don't even think about it cuz the better team is always going to win in Denver is physical you guys are finesse also Denver has length and size and they got Championship Swagger you've got none of that you might even get swept by Denver I'm seriously you don't want to see Danvers

  • @future62
    @future62 Před měsícem +6

    I think they can go all the way. IMO this Thunder is better than the last version that got to or close to the finals. They're also so much fun to watch. Lots of energy on both sides of the ball, no bullshit. I'm rooting for them

  • @TylerGibsonFishing
    @TylerGibsonFishing Před měsícem

    Missoula vs Daigneault Finals would be amazing to watch!!!

  • @michaellebreton4294
    @michaellebreton4294 Před měsícem +4

    Here is my take on OKC . I will use a 5 speed in my analogy . I follow all major team sports in North America . I have seen countless upstart teams with breakout seasons only to flounder in the post season . Teams like OKC are hyped on their success and have been in 5th all season . Experienced teams cruse along in 4th putting into 5th for big games but in general saving a gear for when it matters . Come post season I doubt OKC does not have that gear because they are already in it .

    • @notenrico9138
      @notenrico9138 Před měsícem +4

      maybe okc is just a 6 speed 🤷‍♂️ (idk we will see i hope)

    • @gatesgates7788
      @gatesgates7788 Před měsícem

      They’re kids. The oldest player in their core is SGA and he’s 25. JDubs 22, Chets 21 and they’re both on the precipice of legit SUPERSTARDOM, not to mention they have 15 first round picks over the next 7 years. OKC has the brightest future out of all teams

  • @chinoxSD
    @chinoxSD Před měsícem +4

    As a clippers fan i knew shai was special during that playoffs run in 2019 with the Clippers vs the fully stacked Golden state !! SHAI Showed up with clutch 3 and a clutch play to steal game 3 ....Shai has yet to take them over the hump ....

  • @Sbock86
    @Sbock86 Před měsícem +4

    Love Legler. Professional guy.

  • @ishyameru6232
    @ishyameru6232 Před měsícem +9

    Most of the rebounding issue boils down to boxing out... I'm constantly getting angry watching them because they refuse to boxout

  • @jackky6121
    @jackky6121 Před měsícem +14

    Shai got some of that experience playing for Canada this summer, beating Slovenia, Spain, and then USA

    • @codyhuesers
      @codyhuesers Před měsícem +2

      completely different style of basketball.

    • @BestShootermanUbz
      @BestShootermanUbz Před měsícem

      @@codyhuesershow

    • @michaelb6344
      @michaelb6344 Před měsícem +5

      @@codyhuesersit’s really not. If anything, it’s closer to nba playoff basketball because the refs don’t call as many fouls.

    • @codyhuesers
      @codyhuesers Před měsícem

      @@michaelb6344 it really is, they don’t have defensive 3 second calls. The level of competition is also lower. The USA team there was their c- team. A team
      Where Dennis Shroeder and Franz Wagner won it. Dennis isn’t a top 100 player in the league. I like Franz but he’s in the 40-55 range. Do you think that team under NBA rules, and with those two guys as the best players is sniffing an NBA title? Of course not. It’s not the same at all.

    • @imsalty5539
      @imsalty5539 Před měsícem

      Shai has already played in 2 series

  • @AMINOMMA
    @AMINOMMA Před měsícem

    Always love the pod with you and Legs. Get RJ in on it next time too!

  • @jelmoretv
    @jelmoretv Před 2 dny

    Excellent analysis on details for Oklahoma.SGA is my MVP

  • @robertbloom4424
    @robertbloom4424 Před měsícem +10

    Top to bottom, the Thunder are the deepest and most talented team. Their roster is extremely well-balanced, except for a lack of rebounding. They're probably too young, but young teams have won chips before. They probably need a little luck along the way, but most title teams have luck on their side. Obv, SGA needs to be healthy.

    • @88triz
      @88triz Před měsícem

      There’s a lot of teams with more talent than the thunder. Opposing defences are so focused on sga,, it creates a lot of opportunities for the other players to score.

  • @romainviry3185
    @romainviry3185 Před měsícem

    Great conversation. I'm only a NBA enthousiast but I'm not sure how they would match against full force Denver. Lack of strength and length could be an unsolvable issue other a playoff serie. But sure it'll be fun to watch how wrong or right it will turn out to be

  • @redzwestisbest
    @redzwestisbest Před měsícem +19

    and Giddey is 32/33% so its not like he is a ben simmons

    • @cholinlin6576
      @cholinlin6576 Před měsícem +1

      but almost every shot he takes is open shot

    • @inFamous_Izanagi
      @inFamous_Izanagi Před měsícem

      Doesn't need contested shots when everyone else shoots 40%+​@@cholinlin6576

    • @alimfuzzy
      @alimfuzzy Před měsícem +1

      ​@cholinlin6576 watch a game, bot a troll reel.
      Hell, just watch the last game highlights.

    • @redzwestisbest
      @redzwestisbest Před měsícem

      He shoots better not wide open. @@cholinlin6576

  • @alejandrowong7628
    @alejandrowong7628 Před měsícem

    great coaching can make up for the inexperience in the playoffs, excited to see them play in that setting!

  • @berryesseen
    @berryesseen Před měsícem +9

    OKC is at the top of the stacked western conference. So, this should make them either top favorite or second top favorite behind Celtics. Of course, they can make a good run. That run has 50% chance to end with a championship.

    • @mentalprograming5365
      @mentalprograming5365 Před měsícem +5

      how long you been watching basketball? long enough to know theirs never been a young team in nba history that 98 percent of their players that never been to the playoffs made a run.. never happened, never will.. a fan in the comments cannot trump what ALL of the nba legends say.. go fight and argue with them when they tell you your wrong and okc is a first round exit

    • @shiningwizard202
      @shiningwizard202 Před měsícem +4

      OKC is not better than Denver or Timberwolves sorry man. Love the squad but they’re not there yet.

    • @BestShootermanUbz
      @BestShootermanUbz Před měsícem +5

      ⁠@@mentalprograming5365You’re so mad it’s hilarious. History is always made. Just because something hasn’t happened doesn’t mean it can’t. This is the best young team in a very long time, if anyone can do it, it’s them. They have all the fundamentals and they play with poise while blocking out the outside noise. There’s no egos and everyone knows their roles and plays them extremely well.

    • @DeadShotMontages
      @DeadShotMontages Před měsícem

      @@mentalprograming5365we will come back to this when we are in the finals

    • @315giants
      @315giants Před měsícem +1

      their not beating denver they out of all teams dont have an answer for jokic he would rag doll chet down low n i dont think they have a real chance against the wolves...rest of the teams i can see them getting the W so in the end i think they need some one else to take out denver cuz if they do match up denver in 5

  • @SmegCro
    @SmegCro Před měsícem

    I love it when JJ's dad is on

  • @malthecreator_
    @malthecreator_ Před měsícem +1

    Playoff experience will always matter ! Let’s see though !!

  • @tysonclarke012
    @tysonclarke012 Před měsícem +9

    I think experience is massive.
    But these guys are minimizing that shortcoming incredibly well.
    I don't think they're going to win or be in the finals. But my God, it would be impressive if they did

    • @EchoLeague2
      @EchoLeague2 Před měsícem

      They can def send a team or two packing if they play really well I think. But teams like Denver , Lakers, and clippers will give them trouble. Depends on what seed they get. Wouldn’t want the #1 seed if I’m OKC

  • @Vasco224
    @Vasco224 Před měsícem +1

    i started watching OKC and became a fan early 2022 when Giddey was the main guy and Shai was injured and i remember saying “they need to draft Chet” like months before the draft day and when he got hurt it was annoying because what they’re doing this year having the 2nd best record out of all 30 teams is what they would’ve been doing last year, Chet’s impact is gonna make this team win rings

    • @ttam1217
      @ttam1217 Před měsícem

      His impact has been completely overshadowed by Wemby which I understand because we haven't seen something like Wemby before. Chet is one of the best two way prospects I've ever seen. You just do not see that combination of length, shot blocking instinct, shooting touch and feel for the game very often.

    • @lil_truth
      @lil_truth Před měsícem +2

      They will never win a ring

    • @gatesgates7788
      @gatesgates7788 Před měsícem +1

      @@lil_truththey have the recipe for success already. Depth, defense, shooting and a top 5 player.

  • @brucecarter5046
    @brucecarter5046 Před měsícem +2

    There's no discounting a great team that doesn't know enough to be scared.

    • @Yeshuaspupil
      @Yeshuaspupil Před měsícem +1

      Outside of Denver I wont be surprised if OKC beats any team in the west.

  • @ywtcc
    @ywtcc Před měsícem

    There's some match up concerns with OKC in the playoffs.
    Jokic, Giannis, Embiid are players they might struggle to win a series against.
    Winning a series or two would be huge for this team, though, and I expect them to do that.
    Going forward, they should be title contenders for the foreseeable future.
    Adding Chet to an already talented, emerging young group was an amazing stroke of good fortune.
    It's looking like OKC made a number of great moves building up. I wonder how long they can keep it together.

  • @thazsar
    @thazsar Před měsícem

    Those 3pt percentages are insane! #MFFL

  • @MrSuperman957
    @MrSuperman957 Před měsícem +2

    The 2015 Warriors played in 3 series before that run and still won

  • @marcosmarquez1538
    @marcosmarquez1538 Před měsícem

    Crazy how Jj hit a mil 😮

  • @anoojnathan7902
    @anoojnathan7902 Před měsícem

    Experience is the only thing holding them back in my mind. They have all the right pieces, except someone who can battle jokic in the post. However, Chet’s a good shot blocker who can at least bother jokic + quickly recover to stifle cutters at the rim.

  • @JasonSmith-pe5py
    @JasonSmith-pe5py Před měsícem +1

    It almost always does matter in every sports playoffs-but in the NBA playoffs the most.OKC will win titles in the future but not this yr.They remind me so much of my Nuggets...in 2019. Ended up the 2 seed in their 1st run.Won the 1st round in 7 BARELY over a way inferior talented-but far more playoff experienced SA. Then lost game 7 in 2nd round,at home in the final seconds to a somewhat less talented but more playoff experienced Portland. In both game 7s made critical mistakes in the final seconds that cost them vs Portland but barely didnt vs SA. Even did the same 1st round,game 7 in 2020 bubble vs Utah-but survived barely.
    OKC will be a tough out but that is your destiny this year OKC-like so many young,talented teams before you in their 1st playoff run. NBA history is full of similar teams who had to lose at least once-sometimes more-to learn how to win in the playoffs.By contrast-its tough to find many teams of similar type that even made the finals-let alone won a title their 1st run through.Learn from history-or you will be surprised when it happens again-I wont be. Sacramento getting blown out in game 7 at home to an inferior GS full of champions JUST LAST YEAR is another example.Even Memphis losing to the Lakers is similar.

  • @joeyp3094
    @joeyp3094 Před měsícem +1

    Not sure if JJ will ever see this but he has to realize it. He mentioned the guys who shoot 3's on OKC other than Giddey and the percentages. So Giddey right now averages one 3 made per game on 3 attempts. So he's at 33% while others are between 37% and 41%, but on only 3 shots per game the likelihood of a 33% and 38% shooter making more than 1 is slim. Maybe they do so once in 5 or 6 games per the math behind it. The 5% difference between say SGA and Giddey is 5 per 100 and over the course of a 7 game series neither are shooting anywhere near 100 of them. Maybe Giddey shoots 25 and SGA 30? Maybe the total point differential is 6 points or 0.8 points per game?
    Players get wayyyyy too caught up on marginal stuff like this, Curry at 40% over 12 shots per game is massively different than SGA at 37% over 4 shots per game. JJ has to realize this. The difference in games is getting extra possessions, protecting the boards, limiting easy baskets, protecting the ball, getting good shots early in the shot clock, not 3-5% 3 point percentage differences. Have we become this threecentric that we've forgotten how winning works?

  • @3rdCoastAlliance
    @3rdCoastAlliance Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for not spending an inordinate amount of time discussing the usual large market teams in the league. There's a few smaller market teams that are making moves and showing that their rebuild is bearing real fruit -- namely Thunder, Magic, and Rockets. These are teams who chose to actually develop their young talent instead of importing a superstar to maintain some relevance.

  • @und3rworldmedia_
    @und3rworldmedia_ Před měsícem

    tims analysis of shais offense was so spot on, he didnt put up 30+ on every single team in the league on accident, its literally impossible for teams to properly scheme against SGA

  • @americassports
    @americassports Před měsícem +1

    What you described of Jalen Williams is literally why people call him the most underrated player lmao
    So while you may make fun of people who say that, you obviously just said the same thing as those people.

  • @iii898iii
    @iii898iii Před měsícem

    Congrats to JJ getting an early promotion in Klutch Sports/Lebron Media

  • @isoslim
    @isoslim Před měsícem

    At the end of day its all about making shots and getting stops..If we can do that we can make it pretty far ⚡⚡⛈️

  • @dillonthompson7454
    @dillonthompson7454 Před měsícem

    on the note of the thunder in the playoffs, I do feel like JDUB has that killer instinct in the 4th quarter that I think can transfer really nicely to the playoffs possibly quickly.

  • @dustinmotley4738
    @dustinmotley4738 Před měsícem +1

    The thing about the Thunder is It's not just the players that lack playoffs experience But their head coach lacks playoff experience As well

    • @jaceygaither2581
      @jaceygaither2581 Před měsícem +3

      Daignault is one of the smartest coaches in the NBA so it won't matter. How many times have we seen experienced coaches get outcoached in the playoffs ( i.e Doc Rivers)...

  • @idanzick2710
    @idanzick2710 Před měsícem +2

    I truly believe that SGA is the Maestro man, the way he plays the game, it's as if he's conducting a song. I believe given time, and even this post season, people will see how this man moves the floor around him.

  • @jaylunwilliams1544
    @jaylunwilliams1544 Před měsícem

    Look back at any young team that has this type of season and their arrival to the playoffs, it went well. Now, there's only been like 2 or 3 of these teams, but winning 50 games should prove they are built for big moments because winning 50 requires consistency. What do the playoffs require?

  • @ericfleming347
    @ericfleming347 Před měsícem +1

    Historically the great teams had a few years of growing pains had to lose to the dominant team that's been at the top of the league a few times in the playoffs before they get the experience to seriously contend but not all so they have a shot.

    • @berryesseen
      @berryesseen Před měsícem

      Beside Denver, no team is at that level. GSW and Lakers are at their bottom. Most likely, they won't make it to playoffs. Clippers and Suns have some experience but they are not "winner" type of teams. OKC has very high chance to reach the western finals.

  • @calebbongalos3828
    @calebbongalos3828 Před měsícem

    JJ is right, SGA has counters. But in the playoffs it's collective play that wins you a series MOST of the time.

  • @aarondekker1834
    @aarondekker1834 Před měsícem

    They did add Hayward who without looking it up, surely has some playoff experience

  • @chrisburrows2876
    @chrisburrows2876 Před měsícem

    I was in a bar in Phoenix 15 yrs ago talking to this unassuming white dude about my size. Somehow the topic of Nash came up. This guy said Nash was his hero. The guy was JJ. Pretty cool conversation

  • @KingIndo-ut6eh
    @KingIndo-ut6eh Před měsícem +1

    That's right JJ,j dub is comfortable with differing to Shai and not get into a battle of " I'm a super star so I'll take over not you Shai" I think that's a huge difference between KD and Russell and as a thunder ⚡ fan since they came to the city in 2008 I've seen how that goes. I love this thunder ⚡ team and honestly believe they are the best team we've ever had. I'm blessed to have this team and wish and hope they defeat all odds and win the championship this year. Thunder ⚡⚡ ⚡ up ❤

    • @Yeshuaspupil
      @Yeshuaspupil Před měsícem +1

      I agree bro. I'm a Warrior fan and I remember playing yall the first couple times this year. I thought to myself that the Thunder were good enough to beat any team in the western conference come playoff time, except im not sure about Denver.

  • @J-Hue
    @J-Hue Před měsícem

    A conf finals run would be great for them. Anything more would be way ahead of schedule for their development.

  • @OG-10
    @OG-10 Před měsícem +3

    The Thunder’s made it to the finals before with little to no playoff experience before

  • @ChevyLS1454
    @ChevyLS1454 Před měsícem +1

    Props to JJ REDICK for giving OKC airtime they deserve. Espn, TNT and Sports Center are to busy always sucking off LeBron.

  • @peternut358
    @peternut358 Před 28 dny +1

    Giddey is coming into some great form and the OKC can win it all.

  • @jaypaulauskas7108
    @jaypaulauskas7108 Před měsícem

    Does any of this apply to the Macic? Because I think they are Fing fantastic!

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Před měsícem

    Yup that Playoff Experience will matter......New Teams in the Playoffs always have a hard time handling pressure....I dont know if getting Gordon Hayward will help them handle that Playoff Pressure

  • @popoyuanbro1
    @popoyuanbro1 Před měsícem

    Of course it matters, game planning and playing a team is way different than regular season games.

  • @junsinator971
    @junsinator971 Před měsícem

    True that the majority of the team is inexperienced in playoffs but people forget SGA has played in 2 playoff series. Bubble year (Dort also) and 2018 clippers.

  • @jaebuudhatv8514
    @jaebuudhatv8514 Před měsícem

    As a OKC fan I don't care about this year's play offs that much we're so far ahead of schedule it's easy to enjoy the ride rn

  • @buttersdk
    @buttersdk Před měsícem

    I’m still worried about how Wemby and Chet will play in playoff basketball, not because of a lack of talent, But because of lack of physique and strength. It doesnt matter as much in a high pace and offense oriented regular season, But in a slow paced, physical, defensive and calculated playoff setting, the lack of physicality for a Big matters much more. It Can have a Big impact on their performance during a game and during the Series. Also will increase the risk of injuries during the series. That is my biggest worry with tall and thin bigs in the playoffs.

  • @shiningwizard202
    @shiningwizard202 Před měsícem +9

    Shai’s gonna have an excellent post season run and put himself on the map but I think he’s gonna have trouble getting to the line and controlling the pace. I don’t see a conference finals this year but nothing wrong with that, still young team with great defense and shooting.

    • @carltonrudolph
      @carltonrudolph Před měsícem

      all depends on match ups but I dont see it happening this year either. I think they need another big but next year I can see it happening.

    • @shiningwizard202
      @shiningwizard202 Před měsícem

      @@carltonrudolph I think they need a vet. Hayward is fine but he’s not too vocal I’d imagine. At least he wasn’t for the Celtics or Hornets. An energy vet guy would really help them tons.

    • @DeadShotMontages
      @DeadShotMontages Před měsícem +2

      @@shiningwizard202 u don’t watch very much we are spewing with energy from number one to number 17 on the roster all the ways to the coach no better locker room than these young fellas

    • @shiningwizard202
      @shiningwizard202 Před měsícem +1

      @@DeadShotMontages what does energy have to do with veteran impact? Im literally giving OKC a huge compliment, they’re one of my favorite teams to watch.

  • @DeCoededSports
    @DeCoededSports Před měsícem

    Definitely matters. Kings last year, Memphis year before. Celtics as well. Young top teams struggle in the playoffs. Will take probably 2 years, for a WCF appearance

  • @calebbongalos3828
    @calebbongalos3828 Před měsícem

    JJ is right, SGA has counters. But the playoffs is a collective play MOST of the time. Wonder how OKC will respond in a game in the post season.

  • @TheOneKeyToLife
    @TheOneKeyToLife Před měsícem +4

    I think if they were like a 7th seed, since they’re so young and inexperienced they could just play freely, but since they’ll mostly likely be a 1st/2nd seed they’ll feel that pressure. Like if they end up playing like a Mavs, you got Luka and Kyrie that have seen it all and been here before

  • @katrinaa7581
    @katrinaa7581 Před měsícem +4

    Thunder are fun to watch, I wouldn’t worry too much about SGA not having playoff experience. He lead team Canada to a win over Spain in the 4th quarter, TC was down by 12, he made some clutch free throws and baskets he can score when it matters.

  • @TheJudgementofDog
    @TheJudgementofDog Před měsícem

    They play with maturity and poise. They play intelligently. They don't panic when they get behind. They play for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  • @dahlaw8460
    @dahlaw8460 Před měsícem +1

    Shai and Dort did lead team Canada to a Bronze Medal at FIBA. There's some big game experience there.
    OKC is most likely going to the second round unless they get paired with GS or LAL is in the 1st round (experience title winners...and refs).

  • @irlswag3771
    @irlswag3771 Před měsícem +1

    Jj and Lebron said that IQ would be more important than experience

  • @Sok12111
    @Sok12111 Před měsícem

    Jalen Williams is THAT DUDE