When You're The Best Player In The World And No One Cares
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I definitely think there’s some bias against Luka. When Embiid scored 70, everyone in the media was wetting themselves. Then Luka scores 73 and the media people were like “This is disgusting. There’s no defense in this league anymore.”
One white one black
@@sikkouvol.1996 Damn, that’s lowkey crazy but true. Im saying this as a black person.
But Jokic is white so that ruins your whole point.
factsss
Embild actually plays defense
it DID, and between Embiid 70 and Luka 73 was 5 days apart. They called embiid next level, another level, whatever and then instead of celebrating ir congratulating Luka, they talked more about how ashamed of Atlanta 😢😢😢😢
Like between that 4 (Embiid 70, Luka 73, KAT and Booker 62) Luka one was the most efficient and most need, like Mavs only W by 5pt, Luka needs to drop that 73pt in order for Mavs to W, not putting number in garbage time...
Bro's the first person to experience voter fatigue... before winning anything.
him and Tatum, curse of being so good from the jump
tatum?@@_ripVanWinkle_
Not Tatum 💀
@@_ripVanWinkle_ Tatum chocker game 7 miami 14 points tatum chocked many times in important games he aint on Lukas level
@@CL2-Tatum literally has a very elite resume for his age and been contributing in big moments since 19 since 21 5x all star 3 time all nba wym
luka's moved up 2/3 places on the mvp list since this was made
THANK YOU JXMY, YOU HAVE DONE MIRACLES
Won last night too
Dude didn't lose in a long streak, nothing to do with jimmy
It's really not that deep, he moved up to 2nd because he's second in important Advanced Stats. Jokic is dominating every single Advanced Stat, and has his team hovering between 1-3rd in the West. He's leading in Player Efficiency, Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Value Over Replacement, etc. That's why Jokic is winning it again this year.
the power of narratives like last year😂
@anythinggoes5574 Can you tell me where you are finding these advance stats? Just because Luka is ahead of Jokic in a lot of stats, including 3pt%, ppg, apg, steals, etc. in less games played.
What "most valuable" means changes with the preferences of journalists.
They decide who has the best storyline and adjust their arguments accordingly.
Direct and indirect viewership generated -- public award systems are built for buzz and word-of-mouth marketing to increase viewership for ad revenue more than they are to actually award performers/players. You could be the best player of all time and not be awarded MVP if your Google Trend numbers aren't as good as the numbers you put on the scoreboard.
@@sun5kong93 There's probably some truth to that. Though, I'd argue it's hard to put up MVP caliber numbers without trending to some extent.
Just say the truth..... he's the wrong color.
the fact that he wasn’t even in the mvp ladder averaging 34,5 ppg after getting 73 points was a joke
Put Embiid on Dallas and gave him the ball and he would average 50.
There is no play in Dallas. It's just iso games. No coaching, nothing. Thats why they suck.
@@supernotnaturalROFLLLLLL give Luka the 76ers and they're going to the Finals, only to lose to the Nuggets
The NBA doesn’t want so many yte boys being the face of the league.. that’s why Joker didn’t win again last year and why Luka won’t win one unless he puts up 40/10/10.. given what’s happened before in the past (people winning mvp without being on a great team).. there’s no reason Luka shouldn’t be competing with Joker this year and he should’ve last year as well minimum. The voters and league would never admit it but thats the reason.
He needs to play defense and get more wins
There are just so many good players with similar stat lines but with much better standings
So much talent in the NBA nowadays that it kinda reminds me of what Syndrome said: "And when everyone's Super, no one will be"
That's such a good quote for the current state of the league
Lmao so right
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Who tf is down syndrome? 🤔 😂
NBA today is like 2K games with defense difficulties set at beginner lvl so of course everyone puts on superman #s. NBA has changed the rules so much that it disallows tight defense no more.
Jxmy, I'm pretty certain that this video has single handedly boosted Luka back into the mvp running. I never saw anything on socials about lukas performances, let alone his shot at mvp, but he's been completely blowing up my feed since the release of this vid. Thank you.
Well they’ve won like 7 straight they started playing better and they skipped to the 5 seed and could potentially get to that 4th seed
Here after he jumped to Number 2, Jxmy might actually have that Perk effect
No, he just actually started winning 😂
@@crowing3886 that too lmao
Jxmy Perc
When I knew the disrespect was too much was when Luka dropped 73 against the Hawks. People started to question the NBA and the lack of defense but when Embied scored 70, everyone was praising him and said he locked up the MVP.
Seriously! Instead of a conversation about how generational Luka is, we had people saying, "but it was against the Hawks" and "not impressive cuz no defense". I really think social media has ruined how people view the game
Makes me remember perkins comments about jokic/embiid mvp race.
No they weren't. The conversation was about how many free throws he took to get 70
I was one of the few calling embiid a fraud. And he is.
Yea fr people need to go watch bird defense highlights there not crazy he wasn’t the greatest but he was good enough and he hustled Luka needs start doing that
Next video with Jokic in the thumbnail hanging out with his horses in Serbia: "When You're The Best Player In The World And You Don't Care"
lmao
Jokic treats this award the way it should be.
It's a poorly judged award and has been for too long.
For Luka to win the MVP, he needs the media, unfortunately, they hate him for some reason.
@@josephafrica23 Just don't forget, if you're not white, you can't be racist.
@@josephafrica23Just like Kobe during his prime
A similar thing happened in the 2018-19 season with James Harden. He averaged 36 - 6 - 7 and Houston was the 4th seed with a 53 - 29 record. His 36.1 ppg was the highest average since MJ in 1986-87. Similar to Luka, this was an incredible season that certainly surprised people, yet he didn’t win the MVP.
He won the year before, and finished second to Giannis in 2018-19. Giannis deserved it, if you factor in his defense. Plus, the Bucks won 60 games.
Giannis was elite in both sides of the court while harden only tried in one and did not give any effort in the other.
I was punching air as a Rockets fan 😂
@@kadeemk4679 harden wasn't even the second or third best player
I mean you have to compare who DID win. Giannis won, on a better team, and Harden won the year before. Context matters, which is the point. Same this year - why would it be Luka, when Jokic has even better stats, on a better team, just won a championship (and may win another this year), and didn't win it last year which would make him kind of a shoe-in for this year?
Fantastic video, well researched with a coherent and compelling argument. Thank you for putting in the time and effort, creating a library of videos with such consistent quality.
The fact that you gave on how a the team is doing without their best player is a perfect way to show how valuable a player really is
2 of Tatum's 5 missed games were recently against the Pistons, and Boston won by 25 and 27, which really inflated that differential. Luka missed two games against the Wolves and Pelicans, and one against OKC. Opponent matters.
Both this comment and the first reply to it are true. Which in turn shows that when looking at the MVP award there should be like a billion criteria to look at and study to truly see who deserves it.
@@redemption3111 I'm not even saying Tatum should get consideration over Luka, just pointing out when we want a certain guy, we fixate on the criteria that highlights them. But you can always find a counter point.
And when your team has less talent or is injured, you're gonna have to do more. Doesn't always make you a better player than the guys who don't need to do as much. Guys sacrifice their individual accolades for a winning situation all the time.
Not the best metric to measure someone by, especially if a system is designed around a player. So a team may stank without for example without Harden's Rockets. Also, the bulls barely won any less games without Jordan, and we all know how valuable he is.
Luka is way better ghen tatum tho so ur argument doesnt make munch sense here boston kegit doesnt need tatum 🤣🤣@subMJM
And to add to his case, the mavs have been one of the most injured teams this season.
Kyrie - 23 games
Exum - 26
Lively - 19
J.Green- 16
Maxi - 37
Why did you just decide to make up stats in the comments?
@@Arizona9001 Those aren't stats, those are facts. Mavs are near the top in how many different starting lineups they have used.
@@Arizona9001 I'm sorry, with the context of the comment, I thought that anyone with half a brain would understand that it's amount of games missed by the mavs players.
this huge run that they have been on is hugely linked to kyrie being on the floor, this ain't a jokic type year
literally zero point of commenting this solely because of Naz Reid’s recent dominance
Best sports commentary on any media. Watch every video on this channel and always look forward to the next one. Jxmmy got me loving the NBA again.
One of the only channels on this site where I'm never dissatisfied. And I don't even really follow sports. Great vid as always!
No literally, the Luka disrespect is unreal. Everyone I see outside the media is genuinely confused as to why Luka isn't 2nd at minimum in MVP voting. Jokic probably still deserves it but it's like the media is hellbent on making sure Luka gets no credit in the MVP race like huh.
i mean crazy stats on a pretty decent team shoukd be enough i know he has playoff credit too so idk what the hate abt him is
@@CahlilWessonI really do think the biggest hold back against him is voter fatigue as jimmy said, even when he’s never even won it just cause he was so good so fast and now they don’t even glance twice at him 🫤
No defense
@@v3nd_data859completely agree, when your that good that fast people tend to shrug it off as the norm, especially when the league has more talent overall then the example jxmy gave which was young jordan, cause nobody had seen stats like that he got the nod but when you have, even recently, and multiple players are somewhat similar but with better records it’s hard to stand out, just hope Luka gets his flowers soon cause this is insane and starting to look like some Kendrick Perkins bs, all that race talk he did versus jokic I think last year in the mvp race was downright disgusting
@@deeshotcha2250
BS, he's gone from a bad defender to an average one at the absolute worst and more accurately an above average one.
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Too Late Jimmy we done with the 2020’s
Jimmy at 5pm out here is perfect
I know this is already a banger, but I'm here to appreciate all the effort and study of every metric and statistic to put this video together! Jxmy you are the certified GOAT!
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The reality is that the MVP award has always been narrative driven. It gives the media/fans something to talk about all year, and the standards change year-to-year based on personal preference.
It only became narrative driven when media started voting. Before players themselves vote and only the true best players get to be in top votes
I won't say it's narrative driven, just that narrative is also a factor alongside stats, skill and team-standing. What I mean is just like those other factors they're all weighed and can way more or less in any given season.
Think of the Russel Westbrook MVP, yes he had the insane triple double average but he still wasn't able to carry his team to good standing. When you add onto the fact that he had something to prove with the departure of KD and how he had to stand as the sole driving force of that OKC team then that's an MVP worthy narrative.
Basically I don't think narratives are a bad thing to include in the MVP race as it made the Westbrook MVP heartfelt and legendary in a way. It's not narrative driven, just that it's also a factor to be weighed
narratives counts but mainly the leader of the adanced stats wins the mvp
Yet, those same narratives are calling that 2017 Russ mvp the biggest stat pad mvp ever, 2011 Rose mvp the weakest mvp ever... So, yeah, narratives, you gotta love them.
Its bullshit award,influened by politics and has little to do with reality.
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Great video! Very interesting analytics, clearly conveyed. Nice one!
It would be cool for you to do a series about underrated players in the league. From all eras. Go through and talk about how they’re actually pretty good, underrated, etc, and go through their stats and stuff.
Like your “Make the Case” series, but for usually lesser known & underrated players. Like you’re making their case for why they’re underrated & might need to be appreciated more.
First player I’d recommend is technically a relative of mine, and my grandpa helped him with basketball. He didn’t even like it at first, but it’s Brian Grant. The General.
He has a few games where he almost had a 5 for 5, and does have 1 game which he has a 5 for 5. And he played during one of the most aggressive eras of the game, especially with the PFs & Cs, yet he averaged 7-10 rebounds a game, and would always give Karl Malone a run for his money.
(His averages for his whole career of 12 seasons is semi low, but this is mainly due to him getting Parkinson’s Disease & injuries his last couple of years, which obviously brought down his stats a bit).
And you can do lesser known ppl like this or even lesser known, but even better known players that still might be underrated, and you “Make the Case” for why they’re underrated.
Thank you for covering this Jxmy. I've been seeing what he's doing this season, and it's almost criminal how no one talks about it.
Calm down Karen.
Yo, I make some entertaining videos, and I'm asking if you guys can check em out. You don't have to, but it would be nice.
@@newagain9964Blud doesn't even know what a Karen is 😂 this is what happens when kids hear lingo or terms and adopt it without understanding it.
Do u think it's racist that there aren't more white players? I think every team should have to have atleast 5 whites on the roster. That way we can have equal representation in a predominantly black league. It's just not fair!
@@knightrider693man wtf😭
Thank you for speaking the truth when media members choose to ignore it for whatever reason
I think we all know the reason.
@kavishkabartlett4261
not complete picture in this video - giannis, luca, shai, even sabonis are all leading luca in total win shares and even offensive win shares. they also hold an edge in overall efficiency, and while luca leads on bpm and vorp, those two categories are extremely close. Factoring these, makes total sense why luca is behind them - it is more difficult to contribute to a team that has overall better players. Considering luca trails in some categories and barely has an edge in others while playing on a worse team, this means other players overall have a bigger impact on their respective team. MVP should not be based on individual numbers, but should be impact on team. The old mvps you compared who had high individual numbers also had better team stats than luca currently.
Everything that the hate-filled clowns said and the more stupid of them continue to say against Luka is turning back and falling on their own heads and biting them from behind:
He plays only to score.
He is a stat padder.
He is a ball hog.
He has zero defense.
He is slow.
He doesn’t make his team better.
He doesn’t make his teammates better.
His team is losing because of him.
He has zero team success (actually he came in NBA as 19-year continental champion prodigy on national and club level from Europe, which produces the best players in the world nowadays),
etc., etc.
When his team loses Luka is the guilty one because of the above mentioned “reasons”.
When his team wins and Luka has obviously the main contribution Luka suddenly doesn’t exist for the army of his haters - it’s the team chemistry and everybody else’s great play but not Luka.
It’s laughable and at the same time it sadly reveals the dark side of the human soul - envy, hatred, and additionally corruption for the media agenda sellers.
The mavs are 8th in the west. Doncic is exactly where he needs to be in the mvp race. Just like Kobe said harden will never win a ring with his style of play, the same thing applies to doncic. Jokic is a real mvp. Doncic is just a guy that dominates the ball, he needs to work on being more valuable without the basketball
@@kavishkabartlett4261I love how you know that much abt advance statistics but can’t even spell Luka’s name right.
@jxmyhighroller I love your content bro! Love how you actually put in time and effort into each video! Keep it up!
THANK YOU
I love you Jxmy for respecting Luka
Edit: I know he doesn’t specifically say that he “respects” Luka, but he knows that he should at least be a top two MVP candidate. It really pains me to see that the media won’t even acknowledge him. I’m a mavs fan, and every single game this season Luka has shown out. Thank you jimmy for at the very least making a video about this issue.
He didnt. Jimmy didnt talk any context other than luka number
Luka is unbelievable and a generational talent. I'm a Nuggets fan and obviously support Jokic and Co, but I like you do not understand why Luka gets little love compared to a Embiid, SGA, Jok and Tatum. I would take him to build a team around over all of those players(outside Jok, but I'm biased obviously). Glad Jimmy did a vid on this, but he must have made it a week ago as Denver is the first team to 50 wins in the West and tied for 1st with OKC.
Jimmy respects data.
Luka is the 2020’s version of young LeBron
@@Peanutdenver no. luka didnt get enough love because his competition are heavy lifter.
when jok won mvp, his competiton are embiid giannis with less than 5 wins difference
now, luka is againts jok giannis and shai with more than 10 wins each
jxmy needs to have a media vote for every award. at this point i hate watching espn, give this man the respect he deserves.
So true, Jxmy makes mainstream basketball content look like garbage lol
Most crazy glazing I’ve ever heard only reason people like him is cuz all of his takes appeal to the casual fans that are to scared to make their own opinions
@@stmrandomis he not making his own opinion by looking at the stats and then looking at film? Lmfaoooo
@@stmrandomthat's not really glazing, 11 media members vote for MVP... Jimmy would be a much better voter than a handful of other media members lol
@@stmrandom You're either a moron for commenting such BS without watching his videos, or a moron for spewing this BS AFTER watching his videos 😂😂. Casual fans don't break down a player's game like he does. Grow tf up or go watch some Stephen A. Smith.
Thank you for speaking my thoughts. I don’t have the time.
Thank you
Everytime that Westbrook MVP season gets mentioned I get flashbacks. He was unreal.
his season was just perfect. like its almost story like
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Yenno except that he was twenty games back from first and 8 games back from Hardens rockets who had comparable numbers except two less rebounds and two less points. He literally got it because wow 10 rebounds and KD left him for GS!
Just like Luka’s
As a Mavs fan it’s so refreshing to hear this. I feel like I’m going crazy sometimes seeing the NBA media barely acknowledge Luka for MVP.
All he has on his side is stats. Nothing else. That’s not an MVP. And he has empty stats at that.
Because it doesn’t translate to wins…. Kyrie has more impact on winning on Mavs than luka
Jokic is just more valuable, look at the nuggets net rating when he is not on the court which jimmy conveniently didnt mention
@@MrDiMES123🤨. I’ve seen probably 80% of the mavs games this season, and the ones I didn’t catch live, I still watched highlights of. If you think Kyrie is more valuable to this team, you simply don’t watch enough of the games. Not to mention if it were true, Kyrie has missed like 20+ games, and yet the Mavs are still fighting their way out of the play-in.
Jokic, Embiid, SGA and many more beat Luka in ANALYTICS STATS, THATS WHY ! (They also have more wins) 😉
Man fantastic production! Subscribed.
2 days after this video, luka jump to the number 2 FINALLY!! Jimmy, you did your job bro😂💪🏽
What’s funny is last time he made a video like this, it was about Jokic in 2022, and he ended up winning
As a Mavs fan I can assure you. Luka not winning this yr lol. Media would not allow that at all
@@brxndaveli5834sad times mav bros
@@brxndaveli5834 trust me ik
@@brxndaveli5834yea sadly that’s not happening for luka the jokic dick riding has gotten to another level especially cause he didn’t win mvp last year n everyone cried ab it calling it a pity mvp even tho embiid had a case too lukas having one of the best individual seasons of all time n nobody cares it’s ridiculous
@@brxndaveli5834media hates luka because they're racist and Luka is Slovene
I’ve been saying this all season long. I genuinely don’t understand how he isn’t winning mvp. It’s an individually stat. Not a team stat.
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Because he doesn't have as much impact as SGA or Jokic. I don't care if he near averages a triple double. It's meaningless when he's out there hogging the ball and chasing stats.
@kenlen8029 just say you don't know what you're talking about. #1 all time in usage % is MJ. Luka leads this season but tied for 2nd is SGA. Pulling one Stat and claiming that as is the reason is useless.
it is individual but its also about ur individual impact on the team. yes hes putting up these numbers but they are essentially empty if hes not making an impact on his teams record. While SGA numbers are great but calm compared to Lukas and hes doing much more. Whats more impressive being going 34 9,8 while fighting to make the playoffs or 31,7,2,5 while leading the youngest team in the league to the number one seed. OKC was 10th last year and have way less of a roster depth than the Mavs yet are doing more
@@gabriel-uc1uzLuka is a stat padder and a ball hog. MJ had more impact. Why are you bringing him up anyway? It doesn't change the fact Luka is a massive ball hog and a chucker.
Thank you, you make a miracle 🎉
such a great video. so many great stats and graphics were shown and it was very well edited. I think Luka should get the MVP award for sure.
Not only is Luka dominating in all these basic stats, when you look at intricate stats like: Passing versatility, potential assists, post-up defense (points allowed), rebounding skill, steals, offensive rating when he's On/vs Off and MOST IMPORTANTLY, his WIN % is about 60%,
but his team could NEVER win a game without him or stay healthy, u start to notice how good he really is and how much importance ur team having to be close to a super team is to win MVP
Yea the only good team team they beat without Luka this season is the knicks, and that took kyrie putting up 44 points for them to win by 4.
What's most impressive to me is how he got those numbers. He attempts very hard shots most of the time and does not rely on freethrows.
@@pointyheadYTehh he definitely attempts hard shots but it definitely isn’t most of the time lol. Especially if you actually watch his games and not just highlights. He definitely scores more harder shots then embid
@@keys5595 less of a foul merchant I’d say, he also doesn’t get those foul bait shots as often as other stars
Don’t forget his isolation defense
Thanks for making this video! Luka needs more respect in the league. As a MFFL in Dallas I watch every game, go to a little less than half the home games every season, so I see what Luka is doing night after night on the court and his numbers aren't everything. The way this man goes about playing basketball is unbelievable! Dude is doing things that we've never seen before!
He's Literally James harden 2.0... amazing offense w little to no effort on defense, we've seen this for years lol
@@raywhite6652what?!!! Have you seen his defense lately?? He been pretty solid especially with the steals
@@raywhite6652 you clearly aren't watching his games. You're just taking what you hear from the media. I'm not saying he is a great defender, but he absolutely has been giving effort on defense.
@@bobbycone2 I watch plenty of Mavs games and the opposing teams target Luka lol that tells you everything you need to know about his defense bro 💯 same thing w Trae Young , giddey and d book , they're all defensive liabilities because they either lack the effort , size or IQ to play good defense 🤷🏿♂️ its facts.. and imo you can't be the best player if you only play one side great otherwise Rudy gobert and Marcus smart need more respect on their names too lol
@@raywhite6652Tell me how unanimous mvp titled steph was better on D than luka😂😂 The man was getting switch hunted all the time
Hey Jxmy just watched the vid. Great video btw 🙌🏾 I think it would be cool if you made a video about “ how an NBA player earns that “superstar status”. Love the content brother keep going !!!
Jimmy you the GOAT thanks man
As a Mavs fan Jxmy, this video just made my day, thank you for recognizing the absurdity that Luka’s effort and numbers haven’t been appreciated and downright ignored.
It’s because the West is so batshit crazy. I honestly believe that if he were playing in Cleveland and had the Cavs in 2nd or 3rd, there would be strong debate with Jokic. Now imagine if he was on the Knicks?
Also the league is legitimately stacked. We’re gonna show these videos to our kids to explain why this guy who never won any individual awards is still a top 15-20 guy all time 😂
People just need to stop putting so much weight into this award. I hear and see people talking about Luka all the time. Because hes 5th in MVP voting he "hasnt been appreciated and downright ignored" come on now🤣
Luka's talent is undeniable yet somehow underrated. How are we sleeping on this level of brilliance? 🏀💤
Blame skip bayless
Because he plays only on one side of the ball.
we aren't. the racist american media aren't either.
We aren't. The racist American media isn't either. We all know the answer why.
He's constantly crying to refs every possession is why.
He's not humble at all.
That Luka/Tatum comparison at 13:00 is case and point.
Crazy how different the conversation is just a week later heading down the stretch of the season with the mavs now at a 7 game win streak and 9-1 in their L10(The only loss being the one Luka missed). And his stats on average have actually dropped mostly during throughout the games(even including the 47 points against the Rockets), yet he’s still jumped up to 2nd.
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Mavs have been the 2nd most injured team all season and has kept them a few games behind the top 6 seeds the whole season. Unanimous MVP
Delusional 😂😂😂
I’m Slovene so I’m biased, but Luka needs to be at least top 3 in MVP voting… I’m a Nets fan traditionally
@@npvuvuzelaSlovene😂😂😂
I gotta disagree hard, his defense isn’t good enough to beat out Jokic, Jokic is having again one of the best seasons of all time. Luka is great but the advanced statistics of players like SGA, where they have similar stat lines, better team, or Giannis who has much better defense. I’d personally put Luka at 3 I think he’s been better than Giannis
@@snipergangdrob5940Jokic ain’t even a great defender himself gtfoh
quality content every single time, hope you have contents
more frequent sir!
Great breakdown by the way! Great video
Narrative is also very important.
In 2017. when Westbrook won the MVP, not only did he average 30point triple-double, but because KD left him in summer of 2016. everyone felt bad for Russ, yet he carried OKC to 6th seed in tough western conference.
When Jokic won the MVP in 2022. as a 6th seed, his 2nd (Jamal) and 3rd (MPJ) best players were injured for a WHOLE season, and yet Nikola lead his Monstars made out of Monte Morris, Will Barton, 35 y/o Jeff Green and Aaron Gordon (Austin Rivers, Facundo Campazzo, JaMychal Green, Bones Hyland, Davon Reed, Zeke Naji and Bryn Forbes bench) to 48 wins and a 6th seed. That same season top seeds in the east were Heat with 53 wins and Celtics, Bucks and 76ers with 51 wins each, while in the west Suns had 64 wins with Booker and CP3 and Grizzlies had 56 wins (Mavs were 4th seed with 52 wins). Out of all of those teams, the only players seen as a threat for MVP were Embiid and Giannis and their teams only had 3 wins more than injury riddled Nuggets.
So the narrative was if Nikola had his boys to play alongside with, Denver would've been top 2 seed (which they proved in the following 2022/23 season).
You nailed it. I feel like this video was just made to ride the Luka wave and make some quick money because the comment section has pointed out so many points he could have made that would have strengthened his argument. But the fact remains he left out nearly everything that weakens the Luka for MVP campaign. Bias reporting Jimmy!
Yet the same mistakes are being made. In your example, you've just shown that you can be the best player in the world but if you don't have a good team around you then, like Jokic, you finish 6th.
Now, in Luka's case, he hasn't had a good team around him in the way that these other stars have had. Only since post all star, would I say the Mavs look significantly better. There's lots of work still to be done defensively, but they finally have certain pieces that you could say they can make a deep playoff run or finish with a high seed next season.
Luka has had to deal with vital parts of the team being injured including Kyrie, Lively and Dante Exum. The team is 3-6 when Luka doesn't play which is worst record than any other MVP candidate.
The Mavs simply do not have a better team than alot of the teams in the NBA. It is the reason why the Mavs were expected to finish in the play in tournament before the start of the season. Luka can still be the best player in the world but not be able to get his team to 4th place.You've already proven that with Jokic.
@@groupthink9851I also don't understand why he was comparing luka stats to tatum when nobody really think tatum should be the MVP anyway. compare luka stats to jokic and you'll see why jokic is the most valuable player this season. jokic is dominant when it comes to advanced metrics
IDC what we discuss, people should know by now that stats can be manipulated to fit most arguments. The Jokic comparison would skew everything. This video is an fair take on Luka's game czcams.com/video/t4Qk2MvNkkw/video.htmlsi=zJbhwDSTr0En5G3t @@langsz
U just mDe the perfect argument why luka should win wtf u on Bout ? Same sht he doin 😂
Imagine being so good that people see you putting up 32pt 9reb 12ast and all you hear is "well thats just another day for Luka"
Bro just dropped 34/9/8… a career game for most point guards to ever play….
and his averages went DOWN.
I’m so lucky to have watched Luka every night for 6 years. He is the wonderkid. He is a basketball maestro.
Watching him and Kyrie is like going to basketball heaven
Lmao fuck out of here, you make it seem like you're watching the showtime Lakers or 2016 Warriors
Yo, I make some entertaining videos, and I'm asking if you guys can check em out. You don't have to, but it would be nice.
Racism
I think a few guys in the league right now could average that if their coach was like " I want to max out the potential ceiling of this team by making it a predictable heliocentric offense".
There is a hard limit to how good a team can be with the Luka/Prime Harden style of offense. Most good coaches and front offices understand that and won't coddle their best player to have such a usage and on ball dominance. Luka is spoiled in the sense his front office cares more about maximizing Luka's stats than maximizing their playoff chances.
LMAO! He called that the Mavs might reach 50+ wins... you were so right man! Just as I said before. Media is hating on Luka and you can see it in the 73 points reaction
I hardly watch basketball much these days, but have always come back to tune in on certain guys and Luka is definitely him. I think this guy has GOAT status written all over him eventually.
There’s no simple answer, but what I do know is that Jokic had a starting backcourt of Monte Morris and Austin Rivers in his second MVP season. The player with the second most minutes/game was Will Barton. Facundo Campazzo, Jamychal Green, Boogie, and Bryn Forbes were major rotation pieces. 6/7 of those guys don’t even play in the league anymore. They were not a play in team. Win totals are similar, but sometimes that’s just the way it is. If the Nuggets had been in the play in Jokic would not have won. That was the narrative that season.
It’s not narrative, Jokic leads almost all advanced metrics for a MVP 4th year in a row, he was even crazier last year. 2 years before his first MVP, Giannis was league leader back to back and won MVP back to back, the year before that Harden was league leader. So until Luka leads in this like winshare48, BPM, TS, VORP..etc, you can’t even make a case that he’s #2. He’s #3-4 right now, and we aren’t even talking about his team’s rank, winshare is an isolated stat.
thank you for having common sense. jokers team was a lottery team outside of him. they had lost their 2nd and 3rd best player and still wasnt in the play in. westbrook won because they lost a top 20 player ever in durant so everyone expected them to be in the lottery but westbrook made history averaging the triple double and lead them to the playoffs. scoring is inflated now so you cant just look at numbers. luka might still miss the playoffs the 2nd year in a row, how is he the mvp?
@@mrblackhouseprez That's the thing, a lot of people can put up insane stats on bad teams. But how are those stats contributing to winning? If they aren't then you may not be using your team the right way.
As of this morning the Mavs are not a play in team. If the Mavs end up the sixth seed, he has a legitimate case for MVP imo.
Thank you. Every one tries to discredit jokic's second MVP. The context says everything, and his playstyle elevates everyone in the court. The Mavs are good and are underachieving so far.
Been saying this for the last few months. Its hard to continue to understand how great he is when everyone is saying otherwise.
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Luka is great, he's just not anywhere near Jokic this year who was noticeably absent from the current year discussion while making the phantom case for Luka.
There's a case for 2nd over SGA and Giannis, I personally wouldn't make it but it exists, but Jokic is just so far clear of the field it's not funny.
Embiid getting injured removed the only legitimate challenge to Jokic this year, if he didn't win it this year it would be an even bigger travesty than last year.
Let's face it. Luka is a very good player, but the NBA is boring.
@@lesbo37Luka owning nikola in points and assists..and not losing much on rebounds. He is not clearly ahead. His team is really
Good, and he has had to go through hardly any injuries. You are biased and not worth talking rationally with about basketball
I had a chance of watching Luka in person at a home prep game here in Slovenia against Montenegro (with the 'Vutch' and the others). I was expecting big numbers from him as this were normal for him in the NBA. But after watching him drop 34/13/14, I got the feel how difficult that was to do. Man, it was ALL about him. True magic.
Great vid! I get mesmerized by how Luka controls time and space. He causes a glitch in the matrix
thank you so much for this, at least someone who does not take for granted luka"s greatness. i'm a huge luka fan, and it hurts that the media seems to hate luka and does not appreciate how good of a player he is. The biggest proof was when luka scored 73 points, instead of appreciating how good luka is, they went crazy by saying it was disgusting that the league plays no defense now but when embid scored 70, they were so all over him, that embid is the greatest player, locked in mvp, etc. it just so sad as a fan, that's why i don't watch any sports news or channel anymore, they were disgusting asf.
"The media hate Luka" is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. People don't have to worship this ball hog.
He’s such a beast. He’s been dominant since day one.
Dude is the next MJ/ LeBron. Look at his resume… he needs a championship team around him
Jokic, Embiid, SGA and many more beat Luka in ANALYTICS STATS, THATS WHY ! (They also have more wins) 😉
@@Anthonydu01630why are you posting the same comment under every comment?
On defense?
Speak my mind brother!!
Thank you!
“Is Jayson Tatum more valuable than Luka this season?” All that needed to be said.
standings matters, they could care less if ur in the play in.
@@Jekrjedjje To dumb ass voters maybe, they should rename the award if that's what they are going to do with it. MOST VALUEABLE PLAYER. Swap Luka with any of these guys and TADA, he has more wins, none of them take the Mavs to the level they are at with Luka, the Mavs have Kyrie, and that's pretty much it, an empty team who has been plagued by injury this season. It's a bad joke for anyone who is actually watching the games Luka is far and away the Most Valueable Player but that's just not what the award is apparently.
You can ask that question as long a Luka continues to play with G-league level defense.
@@Jekrjedjje Do you think Chet or Wemby should be Rookie of the Year? If you say Wemby you're being hypocritical. Standings SHOULD NOT MATTER for MVP. The award is not "best player on the best team", it's "most valuable player".
It's very simple; ask yourself, if ANY team were to lose a single player and have a drop in win percentage, which player being out would hurt the most? The answer is easily the Dallas Mavericks without Luka. If he were out for the season, they would be a bottom 4-5 team. Nuggets would still be top 5-6 without Jokic, OKC would be top 5 without SGA. Boston would be top 3 without Tatum. Mavericks are not worth talking about whatsoever without Luka. THAT is what an MVP is.
@@Prodigial standing should matter, you’re trying to compare a ROOKIE OF THE YEAR award (which in history, standing mattered ex melo v lebron) to a MVP. To make it even worse luka defense is ABSOLUTELY COOKED.
As a Mavs fan, THANK YOU🙏🙏
This is why I don’t count CHOKIC “mvps” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-lx5jf4vi2kjokic deserved all of his mvp's,stop being delusional
@@foah6986 CHOKIC doesn’t deserve any of them, look it up there were far better players than CHOKIC both times
you sold me on him, very nicely done
Good video but the thing about some of those on/off court points plus minus is that the way the teams are structured makes a big difference. The Celtics are loaded, if Tatum is out, others know they have to play different and do more -- and because they are so good, they CAN. Dallas, outside of Kyrie, has no one who can do more....it's more or less a bunch of role players. For the games missed, the stat is not even significant with only samples of 5 and 8 games, which all may have their own underlying reasons for being what they are.
Last time he made this video was about Jokic, and the man won MVP. Let's hope that happens again.
I kinda wanna see Joker get his 3rd after getting robbed last year, but I wouldn't be mad if Luka gets it.
And stela it form sga
@@tafadzwamanzini5463 nah
He aint even in the top 3, Jokic has been leading it for too long.
Its over imo
@@DonKey496I don’t even like embid but even Ik it wasn’t a “robbery” both guys had historic seasons
He is definitely the most valuable and best player on earth THIS SEASON. Mavs are only 2 games behind the 4th seed while being the most injured team in the league after Memphis and Miami. I still think they can get to 50 wins this season. That's the only chance for Luka
Jokic, Embiid, SGA and many more beat Luka in ANALYTICS STATS, THATS WHY ! (They also have more wins) 😉
@@Anthonydu01630 better analytics and more wins while having a BETTER, HEALTHY team... obviously
@@Anthonydu01630embiid doesnt have more wins
@@Anthonydu01630are you trolling? You're literally posting this under every comment. Also Shai is really profiting from his foul baiting, whilst I do think he's great and will still be in the playoffs, the reason he's more efficient in ts% is because his free throw rate is better, but they have the same efg%. Luka absolutely clears SGA in assists, has a much worse supporting cast (only Kyrie would get on OKC and every regular OKC player except for Giddey would play on the mavs), whilst having had the third most injuries and only being 8 games behind OKC who haven't had any of the struggles the Mavs had. Yeah Shai is great but he is not the MVP. For me its Joker, Luka or Giannis.
He's not better than Jokic. You dudes are insane.
Jimmy you were early on this trend once again. Great work. Everyone is talking about this topic now and I suspect this video might have something to do with it along with the Mavs recent success. Luka for MVP!!!
Thanks for this video #facts
Man your videos are just so damn good. No matter how many vids I watch I still find myself being so impressed by the quality of your content. You never fail to find an interesting topic and do a great job breaking it down using advanced stats and logic analysis. The amount of game data and stats you comb through is mind blowing and I can't imagine how tedious it must be. Your content is amazing and I anxiously await your future vids.
Facts.
I hope he never stops, His NBA content is best out there and always backs it up with the numbers and graphs really help put stats in easier perspective to understand
except of this one - no data no facts just stupid praise wihout real talk - not even talking about his game and the reason he is not winning
@@denigsterhe’s one like 17 of the last 22 games bro
I was so depressed and alone, then my phone light up with notification. New Jxmyhighroller video. Happy again. Thank you JxmyHigheroller.
Damn, same
hey i hope everythings okay man ❤❤
Same. Good luck, brother
after watching . depressed again ...
lol 2am here
The Mavs are poised to be more successful going forward. The moves they made this year has really created the most complete and deep roster Luka has. There are still some areas of weakness, but with Gafford and Lively, you have two mobile bigs who are dominant in the pick and roll with both Luka and Kyrie. If one is out, you don't really miss much with the other. When Kyrie is healthy, it takes a lot of pressure off Luka. They are both ball dominant players, but it works with the way this roster is constructed. I also think PJ was a great pick up. We have yet to see his ceiling in the league, he has a lot of wrinkles to his game. He can stretch the floor, finish strong down low, has a post and defensive presence. PJ can be a beast and I believe he is the x factor for this team. He could be the 3rd part of a big 3 with Luka and Kyrie. Exum has been a nice pickup when healthy. Comparing this roster to the past where Dwight Powell was your STARTING CENTER is daylight and dark. I respect Powell's story. He was an afterthought in the Rondo trade and made something of himself in Dallas. However, he is at best a backup PF (or preferably 3rd string lol). Having guys like him and Kleber starting and playing significant minutes just shows you how weak these teams have been. Those guys are good as role players off the bench. That, the failed Tingus Pingus experiment, the Seth Curry carousel, what this team needs is consistency. I like this current roster. If they could unload "Mr. Inconsistency" Tim Hardaway Jr. for a more efficient, consistent, 3 and D guy with some other wrinkles to his game, then I think this roster is set. Will have to wait until next season for that though. In the meantime, try and keep this core around.
FInally people start talking about it. Thanks for this video, bro.
Thanks for the shoutout to Sabonis! I think it again highlights how talented the league is that a player like him does not get an all star position when a decade ago he would clearly be in the MVP conversation with those same numbers
Luka is better than Sabonis, but Sabonis should be All NBA. He’s the real deal without a doubt
Jokic, Embiid, SGA and many more beat Luka in ANALYTICS STATS, THATS WHY ! (They also have more wins) 😉
He’s an improved defender, shooter, playmaker, and leader who’s been crucial to the mavs with his heroics. No way anyone else brings value to their team like he does
"He's an improved defender".....STOP.
No he's not.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming8th in the entire league in steals, stop that BS, your bias smells like sh!t. 3 Years ago sure run with that narrative, not anymore.
@@WutTheDeuceGamingLuka is one of the point guard defenders in the game. That’s how much he’s improved. better defender than curry
@@seppuku- so curry was best guard defender in 2016 cuz he was leading in steals
Stfu with steals casual
@@WutTheDeuceGaminghes still below average in terms of transition defense as well as reading cuts to the basket because he likes to ball watch, but literally in every other defensive category he has taken a huge fuckin leap, lets not forget this man was universally called a cone, to say luka hasn’t improved defensively is str8 hate😂
Your videos are very impressive. I wish someone would recognize the effort you put into this research and award you for it. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
To answer your question though, we miss a very important component in the title of the award: MOST. In order to be the most of anything, you have to compare it to something. Most valuable player is comparing a players value to ALL other players. Then there is the issue of the value of the player: are we talking to the team, or to the league?
Then it becomes easier to determine who’s the most valuable: comparing a players impact to their team or the league at large, versus another player should determine who wins. I don’t think an individual stat can measure a players impact on the league. How many people watch the NBA simply because he’s playing, outside of Dallas?
The only athlete that has ever, single-handedly contributed to the overall value of a sport was Tiger Woods. For years, people only watched tournaments that he played in. He was the MVP of golf, but that’s an individual sport. This isn’t, which is why his success is based on team results.
IMO, since no single player can stop the success of the league, the MVP is the one that gets his team to the finish line - the Finals - and carries them across it with a win.
I’m sure they’re doing it but if I have an NBA team I would be setting up shop in Serbia studying their players.
I remembered I had countless discussions about that before Lebron's MVP in cleveland.
Arguably, you are even more valuable if your team needs you.
I liked how you showed the statistics about the missing games, how different they perform with or without the player. (of course, this couldn't be the most valuable stats, because players might want to skip difficult games to make the stats look better).
Or maybe winshares, or maybe other metrics that really shows not only how good you are, but how valuable you are for your team.
I hope this leads to more discussion towards this.
Misleading tatum 2/5 missed games are vs detroit and team beat them by 52 points
@@xavierb9061 how about the remaining 3 games?
It’s most valuable player IN THE LEAGUE, not on your team…
Something you didn’t mention and it’s very important is narratives.
In 2017 Westbrook had that insane season, plus the narrative of having to carry the thunder after KD left.
In 2022 Jokic was playing without his 2 best teammates and still took them to the playoffs.
mavs have been top 3 maybe even first in their starting 5 being injured… kyrie has missed around 23 games… luka would atleast have an extra 10 wins minimum
The narratives are all (false) and negative agaisnt luka. Stat padding,doesn’t play defense,makes teammates worse. None of them are true but he is stuck with them
@@lucashigdon4488 Kyrie to this point has played 4800% more games than Jamal did in 21-22 and the season isnt even over yet. Then add in MPJ missing 73 games while playing 9 with a back that required surgery. Both those players combined missed more games than all of Lukas teammates combined. Thats not including Jamal's/Mpj's replacements and other players injuries. Jokic took his team to the playoffs as the 6th seed. Jokic had on/off numbers that were far superior in every way to Luka. This is why Jokic won as the 6th seed. Not to mention shattering the single season PER record, and being the only player to ever record a 2k/1k/500 season. Lastly, his main competition was only the 4th seed with 3 more wins despite having a much better supporting cast. Luka is currently 8.5 games behind Jokic/SGA. If jokic was 8.5 games behind Embiid/Giannis. They would have won, not Jokic.
Fax. If anything Expectations are set low for Luka
@@deadlylightningspirit4295Worst stat padder to ever lace them up.
Since this video dropped along with a few others 👀 media been slowly talking about 77 🔥
As a Luka fan since he was on Real Madrid, thank you for giving Luka his flowers !
I'm really hoping he can win an MVP either this season or soon , cause he really deserve it !
Easily the best, most comprehensive analysis of the MVP award and of the ridiculous Luka bias. Excellent breakdown of the numbers and the historical precedence as well.
There's just nothing biased in the voting.
Jokic is leagues clear in 1st, anyone who thinks this is a debate needs to go home and educate themself.
2nd is where there is a debate. Luka is the best offensive player of the 3 guys going for it but he's unquestionably the worst defender of the 3, his team isn't doing nearly as well as the other two, despite similar talent levels around him, he's the least efficient of the 3 and he's missed the most games of the 3.
The reality is that SGA and Giannis both have at least as good a case as Luka and based on how most people judge it, better cases. I love Luka and he's having an incredible season but so are SGA and GIannis and Jokic is having one of the greatest seasons ever put together. Being 4th in this race isn't some bias or hatred of Luka, it's an admission of how the season has gone. Anyone arguing he's below 4th is displaying the bias though and should check themself similar to anyone who doesn't have Jokic first.
Comparing numbers to prior seasons is ridiculously short sided argument. Offense is extremely inflated right now, Mavs with kyrie and no luka have an offensive rating of 122. Want to guess what it is with Luka 122....his numbers are great but only tell one side of the story. He still has lots to improve before he can become a true contender.
jimmy better than ESPN or any sort of mainstream basketball media. also uploading this at 4am is crazy but i love you for it
Great video.
Ever since Embiid got hurt, I've been saying Luka should win MVP this year and I haven't changed my mind. Theres only like 7-8 games left in the season for each team, so I don't think I will change my mind, even if the Mavs finish 8th.
I think it all comes down to PR.
If the league picks you as a star they will push your name as much as possible. If they see you as having a niche market appeal, they will throttle your exposure. That simple.
Thank goodness Jxmy made a video about how absurdly good Luka has been this season.
I’ve been saying this all season and feel like I’m going crazy. Thank you for putting out this video
The problem u and jimmy have is you cant get 2 major factors - (1) numbers are super inflated right now with the pace of play and volume of shots (esp 3s) players like luka take - I'm sorry but averaging a triple double does not mean 💩 anymore - voters aren't being tricked by flashy numbers bc (2) nobody plays defense ESPECIALLY NOT LUKA - all those guys above Luka are good to great defenders while Luka Adds ZERO value on the defensive end of the floor
@@GunnShotVisualsStop with this no defense shit its was debunked half way Through the season.
@@tezo6996 ur a casual - show proof - I will show u footage of Luka getting abused by bench players
@@tezo6996 Luka is a worse defender than Steph
@@GunnShotVisuals this statement "Luka is a worse defender than Steph" has been debunked as well dude, you listen to Stephen A about luka's defense and it's obvious that you only follow the narritives of the media, you are a bot programmed for this, and I can't hate you for that. But I can educate you, Luka has a defensive rating of 113, and one of the best Defenders at the guard/forward position Jaylen Brown has a Defensive rating of 112.5, or take GIANNIS A for example, his is 112. This myth that Luka can't play defense is so ignorant, and shouldn't be brought up unless he goes back to how he used to play a couple years ago. Don't hate on a player until you've analyzed his game dude, and please don't run into the comment section without fully grasping the situation at hand. I feel like if you have a good basketball IQ offensivley that can translate to defensive IQ as well.
@JxmyHighroller
You're like king of the Basketball hot takes - I respect the grind but god damn.
This video was needed. Luka deserves the MVP this season 100p
Thanks Jxmy, i needed this. Give my man the respect he deserves.
I really look up to Luka as a player. His skill and scoring finesse is undoubtedly great. Such a shame he is criminally underrated in most talks.
No defense
@@marlonthemightysmith7836if you don't have a clue better say nothing
@@marlonthemightysmith7836luka is at WORST an average defender.. But the stats and eye test show that he is an above average defender, and jokic is a below average defender, and won mvp TWICE
@@fluxszs the stats? jokic beats luka in every defensive advanced stat...
@@tristanm2595 no he doesn’t, i know you were looking at player defensive rating but that’s some bs because it is heavily influenced by your team and if you are on a good defensive team and play a lot of minutes you will have a good defensive rating
Lol the NBA saw Jxmyhighroller's video and said, you right, we should put him higher in the mvp ladder, now he's 2nd. Coincidence, I think not.🤔
Great video man
I remember when he made this video about Jokic. Love the callback.
Man didn’t even mention that Mavericks have had the most injured starting roster in the league and they are still in the sixth seed with Luka, it is called Most Valuable Player for a reason! His second option during all of December was Dante Exum! Luka is incredibly underrated by the media and it’s frustrating. Even his 70 point game was underplayed and didn’t even receive close to the narrative that Embiid did for his 70pt game. It’s actually concerning why he isn’t leading the MVP conversation, is it voter fatigue, win record, usage rate, team, what is the actual excuse for him not to win it?
While half of Embiid points were from free throws, nobody mention that either
Defense. The man is lazy on the opposite side of the ball. Don't just got by stats. Watch any string of 5 games and in every single one you will see him not get back, or trot back or play his usual matador defense. The guy is offensively gifted no doubt. Joker, Giannis, Embiid, Shai just offer both sides of the game, even if they are just showing hustle.
@@groupthink9851 He is better on defense this year
Based on what? I've watched him play over at least 20 games this year live and he does the same thing. In fact prior to the 73 point game the crowd was calling him fat boy. @@TonyHernandez-wv5vi
Stats? Eye test? Ive watched every single mavs games and he is better this year. He is seventh in steals and he tries more. He is never going to be DPOY but with the offense he puts up it doesnt matter. Stop being a hater and a casual.
I wanna know how much time it takes to make these vids this is elite stuff right here
Value has several meanings. Value in selling stuff not just winning or having the best stats. Other guys want to play with him, he gets the best powder, etc