About Victor Wembanyama and the Rookie of the Year Race...

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  • čas přidán 8. 03. 2024
  • In this clip, JJ Redick talks about Victor Wembanyama (The San Antonio Spurs) vs. Chet Holmgren (The Oklahoma City Thunder) and the Rookie of the Year race between the two of them.
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  • @siphillis
    @siphillis Před měsícem +853

    People who watched Wemby closely in November realized that he was pretty much forced to learn how to isolate against NBA defenses, which is a tall order for any rookie. So watching him not completely fail was an early sign that he was a fast learner.

    • @kokushibo6823
      @kokushibo6823 Před měsícem +25

      Wemby has always been a fast learner.

    • @nickj8521
      @nickj8521 Před měsícem +70

      that and the spurs stopped the jeremy sochan PG experiement in december and started Jones at PG.
      Sochan couldnt get wemby the ball when he's open so much

    • @ohno4435
      @ohno4435 Před měsícem +47

      @@nickj8521 I don't think people understand why pop does that. When he has a season that's effectively "in the trash" he focuses on player development and one of the parts of that is giving players who are not point guards time at the 1. He did it with DeMar and he's doing the same with his guys now

    • @Phoresight
      @Phoresight Před měsícem +27

      @@ohno4435 yep he was playing with house money, did it so when sochan went back to his main position he would have added playmaking and also made victor learn how to create his own shots against nba defenses. Now we're already seeing the fruits of that

    • @ohno4435
      @ohno4435 Před měsícem +33

      @@Phoresightexactly. and idiots on the internet were saying pop needed to retire cuz of it. thats why they watch and he coaches lol

  • @saitodosan9377
    @saitodosan9377 Před měsícem +944

    Hey JJ, idk if you read this, but if I could make a suggestion for the podcast: The other two guys have very great microphones in front of them, but it's obvious that their settings are set to their shitty webcam microphones (which I'm sure is an accident). If they could actually set their input devices to the good microphones they have in front of them instead of the webcam microphones, that would GREATLY improve the podcast.

  • @xarchist
    @xarchist Před měsícem +1274

    I would like to apologize. I was not familiar with your game.

    • @rylan7238
      @rylan7238 Před měsícem +86

      Karl Malone passing the torch to josh giddey

    • @Theiliteritesbian
      @Theiliteritesbian Před měsícem

      Hah!

    • @Habib-I
      @Habib-I Před měsícem

      That doesn’t make any sense, it wasn’t about being familiar Wemby was just getting used to the league but now he’s playing better than Chet

    • @stanleychen2584
      @stanleychen2584 Před měsícem +7

      @@Habib-Iits a meme

    • @ogbmt
      @ogbmt Před měsícem +15

      ​@@Habib-I They're just referencing when Shaq said that about Christian Wood

  • @rongiefaustino8867
    @rongiefaustino8867 Před měsícem +420

    I'm a hardcore Spurs fan through and through and was very understanding of people who preferred Chet Holmgren before the turn of the year. But since Pop moved Wemby to the 5, there has since been zero doubt who the rookie of the year should be.

    • @Denzel.Johnson
      @Denzel.Johnson Před měsícem +2

      He's been playing the 5 since December

    • @MaximusR93
      @MaximusR93 Před měsícem +10

      Pop putting Sochan at pg was a purposeful way to tank the first part of the season, and it really made Victor press early in the season because there was literally no flow on both sides of the ball. Mix that with Zach Collins being in the way and being a negative in almost every way, and you could see why people that didn’t watch every game would be flippant about the Spurs and Victor. It’s all good though now, we’re going to have a top 5 pick and hopefully we get that Toronto pick as well (if they fall out of the top 6 when the lottery is done). Then the next 5-6 years we have an arsenal of picks. It would’ve been nice if Pop had allowed us to play with a point guard right out the gate, but if it allows us to get an additional great pick, I guess it’s worth a bad season overall. I am praying Atlanta craters the next few years so we can get Cooper Flagg and AJ Dybantsa lol

    • @rongiefaustino8867
      @rongiefaustino8867 Před měsícem +1

      @@Denzel.Johnson yup that's when the tide started to turn in Wemby's favor. That, and Tre Young becoming the point guard instead of Jeremy Sochan.

    • @invisible7355
      @invisible7355 Před měsícem +4

      Its clearly Thanasis Antetokounmpo, he's a vet but deserves it

    • @headsupfiction8582
      @headsupfiction8582 Před měsícem +3

      That being said, Chet is really awesome as well.

  • @amirguri1335
    @amirguri1335 Před měsícem +333

    He's no unicorn. He's Pegasus

  • @myhumps2730
    @myhumps2730 Před měsícem +455

    Wemby forgives you.

  • @kawhi6
    @kawhi6 Před měsícem +124

    He outshines the vast majority of STARS every single game. No exaggeration.

    • @bjray9778
      @bjray9778 Před měsícem +4

      Besides when he got destroyed by sengun but your take still stands

    • @user-ow7qv8nq6t
      @user-ow7qv8nq6t Před měsícem +2

      ​@@bjray9778& Embiid dropping 70pts lmao

    • @moneymike226
      @moneymike226 Před 16 dny +1

      ​@@user-ow7qv8nq6tEmbiid dropped like 16 on Wemby. The rest were on other players. Also last I checked Embiid is pretty good at basketball.

    • @Lucas-wn5wm
      @Lucas-wn5wm Před 11 dny

      ​@@user-ow7qv8nq6t whatever it is, he is still embiid. He is one of the only few that can pose a real problem for Wemby

  • @Parisisdeadddd
    @Parisisdeadddd Před měsícem +222

    This is what makes JJ such a good media guy. He apologizes when he is wrong. Stephen A. weak ahh would never.

    • @Laurent_08
      @Laurent_08 Před měsícem +4

      @Parisisdeaddddd
      He didn't say he was wrong, he said that he still thinks Holmgrem was ROY late december, which is obviously being wrong.

    • @critcritcrit465
      @critcritcrit465 Před měsícem +1

      Stephen a said he was wrong about the Tatum mvp

    • @FreeBandz658
      @FreeBandz658 Před měsícem +12

      He wasn’t wrong though Chet was playing better up until the start of January. That doesn’t make him wrong it just means he thinks Wemby has taken the lead since

    • @steve13191
      @steve13191 Před měsícem +1

      🤣🤣🤣 nah. He is a fence sitter. His whole deal is he doesnt want to upset anybody afraid of the backlash

    • @patrickclarke3645
      @patrickclarke3645 Před měsícem +2

      SAS is xenophobic he recently was very sour after Wemby was brought up on FT about rookie of the year still talking about Chet. Also remember his clip about Luka and the baseball Japanese player;

  • @guiwhiz
    @guiwhiz Před měsícem +61

    One thing Wemby has nailed down... the hype about him becoming a 7'4" KD while being a better defender... isn't hyperbole any longer. It really looks plausible at this point and that is scary if you're the other 29 NBA General Managers.

    • @DaPhunkeeFeel1
      @DaPhunkeeFeel1 Před měsícem +15

      Seriously he has potential to be a 50/40/90 unanimous DPOY one day

    • @keenannorris3309
      @keenannorris3309 Před měsícem +1

      @@DaPhunkeeFeel1 50/40/90, 4 Blocks a game

    • @mario98730
      @mario98730 Před měsícem +7

      And the crazy thing is even if Wemby has an off shooting night, he's so big that if he wanted to go Shaq mode and just live in the paint all game, what tf are you gonna do lol

    • @guiwhiz
      @guiwhiz Před měsícem +1

      @@mario98730 nah that would be a mistake at this point. For all his height he's still a skinny 19 year old kid. Don't want him banging downtown with the likes of Joker, Embiid, Sabonis, and Brook Lopez. That's most likely why Pop started him at the PF at the beginning. Let him get used to the physicality a bit before taking on the big boys.

    • @jacobreyes5357
      @jacobreyes5357 Před 13 dny

      6th all time for blocks by a rookie behind Mourning, Eaton, O’Neal, Robinson, and Manute Bol

  • @TheBoneCharmer93
    @TheBoneCharmer93 Před měsícem +103

    Wembanyama also played majority of the season essentially on minutes restriction. ROTY is not even close and it wasn't close even in January.
    This kid is legit

    • @TheRealBruceLouis
      @TheRealBruceLouis Před měsícem +3

      the man also hardly misses games, unlike our good friend over at the pelicans brass zion

    • @romanvercier3556
      @romanvercier3556 Před měsícem

      @@TheRealBruceLouishe missed the last two tho, why? Is he injured ?

    • @clayc5929
      @clayc5929 Před měsícem

      @@romanvercier3556his two gerbils MadDog and Lucile had a complicated birth and their pups were in the NICU so he was supporting them

    • @timlett99
      @timlett99 Před měsícem +2

      @@romanvercier3556 Dealing a shoulder tweak (which you can see was bothering him against Houston) and a small ankle issue so nothing major as far as I know. Also got a bit unlucky with scheduling as they had like 5 games in 7 or 8 days or something like that so he tried to go against Houston but wasn't fully back so he sat the following back to back games. Should be back tomorrow against GSW if I had to guess

    • @StrygwyrBS
      @StrygwyrBS Před měsícem +1

      ​@@romanvercier3556 he was out 2 games due to ankle sprain and he will be playing today against the warriors. Dude's only missed 8 games so far unlike Scoot who only played half a season, or Chet who didn't play in his rookie season.

  • @vfgoditachyyy8446
    @vfgoditachyyy8446 Před měsícem +24

    I think its poetic that the one team that has always treated the game right, playing the clean and right way, is blessed with a generational 1st pick every decade that also fits their personality so well, disciplined, ambitious and unproblematic. Beautiful.

    • @DublinsJoyce1920
      @DublinsJoyce1920 Před měsícem

      If you think the Spurs have always played clean and the right way, then you must not have seen any of their title runs lmao. Bruce Bowen was a renowned dirty player and Robert Horry needlessly hip checked Nash into the scorers table in garbage time. Are the Spurs the dirtiest team in the league, no. But they've also never been paragon of sportsmanship either.

    • @vfgoditachyyy8446
      @vfgoditachyyy8446 Před měsícem +8

      @@DublinsJoyce1920 i mean playstyle wise. They played the most aesthetically pleasing basketball

    • @DublinsJoyce1920
      @DublinsJoyce1920 Před měsícem +1

      @vfgoditachyyy8446 I'll be honest with you, that might be the first time that I've ever heard of the early 2000's period of basketball described as aesthetically pleasing. The iso era is widely regarded as one of the less enjoyable periods to watch.

    • @TheGr8SageSama
      @TheGr8SageSama Před měsícem

      They are dead last and have no hope of moving up there is no team or fit there yet he just has to hold out for better times lol

    • @vfgoditachyyy8446
      @vfgoditachyyy8446 Před měsícem

      @@TheGr8SageSama the detriment of being a nr 1 pick lol

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y Před měsícem +123

    If you think about it, all of the NBA players the Spurs have drafted with the first pick have gone on to be inducted into the Hall of Fame after they retire.

    • @Nate-qb6qp
      @Nate-qb6qp Před měsícem +23

      God woke up and decided to bless the spurs again in the lottery last year 😭

    • @2ClutchCorey
      @2ClutchCorey Před měsícem +16

      @@Nate-qb6qp that’s what happens when you treat the game right 🤣

    • @scranemdranem336
      @scranemdranem336 Před měsícem +4

      Spurs always get the best ones😭😭

    • @Nate-qb6qp
      @Nate-qb6qp Před měsícem +9

      @@2ClutchCoreythey tanked tf outta last season don’t pull that lol… it was awful hoops
      They are a great org tho, pulling manu and TP and Kawhi
      They just also god’s team 😭 like DRob, Duncan and now Wemby

    • @withalittlehelpfrom3
      @withalittlehelpfrom3 Před měsícem +8

      Not only that: they both made the NBA75 and won ROTY + MVP.
      I don’t think it’s a stretch to say Wemby’s probably meeting both those watermarks

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 Před měsícem +141

    My opinion of Wemby has followed JJs. Thought they'd both be good rookies but Chet would edge him. Not only do I now think Wembys passed him up but it feels like every day the gap widens more too.

    • @Gabriel-bf1ul
      @Gabriel-bf1ul Před měsícem +42

      i thought chet would edge wemby but wemby definitely has a big big load

    • @MarquisVegan
      @MarquisVegan Před měsícem +23

      @@Gabriel-bf1ul Dude 💀

    • @Imake563
      @Imake563 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@Gabriel-bf1ulalways that one cornball

    • @ochomunna270
      @ochomunna270 Před měsícem +6

      ​@@Gabriel-bf1ulPAAAUSE !!!
      Jesus Christ mane. 😂

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Před měsícem

      Because you idolize the guy and agree with all his views points like a little sheep you are 😂😂😂

  • @moeezabdul4091
    @moeezabdul4091 Před měsícem +11

    Wemby for Rookie of the year and defensive player of the year hands down 🙌🏼

  • @verified.my2cents
    @verified.my2cents Před měsícem +48

    Those of us in France would like to welcome you to the converted...you're not the first, you won't be the last...lot's of room for all of us to appreciate this young man's game.

    • @romanvercier3556
      @romanvercier3556 Před měsícem +2

      Je vois quand même beaucoup de français qui n’apprécie pas son jeu.. qui le critique énormément c’est assez étonnant. Moi je suis exalté quand je le vois et surtout quand je note la popularité qu’il apporte au basketball français

    • @noahamankwaah9802
      @noahamankwaah9802 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@romanvercier3556 Les français critiquent le plus les joueurs français, c'est bien connu.

    • @RhumFr
      @RhumFr Před měsícem

      ​@@romanvercier3556des français ou des francophones ?

    • @alexandrelucas808
      @alexandrelucas808 Před měsícem

      @@romanvercier3556 Parce que quand un français réussi dans la vie les autre sont jaloux :). Suffit de voir avec Mbappé et toute la haine qu'il reçoit, c'est juste des gros cons qui ont une vie de merde honnêtement ça sert à rien de s'attarder dessus

    • @cN-xv7ju
      @cN-xv7ju Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for sending him our way we appreciate him

  • @godofeverything8201
    @godofeverything8201 Před měsícem +9

    Wemby switching to the 5 was what changed it for me, dude’s been a killer

  • @hanakyahsharal2341
    @hanakyahsharal2341 Před měsícem +13

    I love this whole video. The stats are insane man 🙏🏽

  • @haroldfloyd5518
    @haroldfloyd5518 Před měsícem +11

    I’d still say kudos to Chet for being in the conversation with the rookie GOAT. And maybe a flower or two is due to Pop? The fact that he’s just a shade behind Brook Lopez defending the pick and roll is mind boggling. Lopez is the very definition of a veteran defensive specialist and Victor is a rookie, which tells us he’s a really smart dude.

    • @wetfire008
      @wetfire008 Před 17 dny

      Pop knew since day one that Wemby would be unstopable as a 5. But he wanted him to learn how to play as a 3/4 in the 1st half of the season. Actually pop had a kind of road map of how he wanted Wemby to learn and grow and set the pieces around him. Next season will be scary

  • @MadisonM1996
    @MadisonM1996 Před měsícem +7

    That "only player ever" stat at 11:00 is even more ridiculous when you take into account that he was playing 25 to 32 minutes per game for almost this whole season so far. Like what the actual heck lol

  • @mosesmorgan7983
    @mosesmorgan7983 Před měsícem +4

    We appreciate the honesty JJ. Thank you from a spurs fan

  • @Dulibar
    @Dulibar Před měsícem +41

    Chet's first season reminds me Alonzo. Incredible rookie stats, but Zo had Shaq and Chet has Wemby

    • @onekidarmy
      @onekidarmy Před měsícem +13

      That's a deep pull but a perfect example.

  • @fpvaddictdad2730
    @fpvaddictdad2730 Před měsícem +4

    JJ, I would like to suggest you add video footage to your discussions. It would be helpful for those of us new to the game to see in action the things you describe. Big fan, keep up the critical thinking and analysis.

  • @kirch8356
    @kirch8356 Před měsícem +3

    Congratulations on 1 mill!! I love watching your videos so much. This channel is a basketball lovers' dream.

  • @BBTHEBEAST
    @BBTHEBEAST Před měsícem +112

    And wemby is doing it playing 1v9

    • @DonkeyPants849
      @DonkeyPants849 Před měsícem +8

      fax all he needs is a decent pg to get him the ball

    • @rafikz77
      @rafikz77 Před měsícem

      😂

    • @slebnation2035
      @slebnation2035 Před měsícem

      Lol they won without him the other day, but sure

  • @Defort-jd8xe
    @Defort-jd8xe Před měsícem +40

    Its not a question if he‘s the best rookie this year. Its worth discussing him being the greatest rookie ever tho

    • @soonerhammons
      @soonerhammons Před měsícem +1

      Haha. That’s completely absurd

    • @WhipItSBreezy
      @WhipItSBreezy Před měsícem +10

      What reasoning do you have to say that it's "completely absurd"? He has seriously looked like one of the greatest rookies of all time, both analytically as well as via the eye test. His team when he's on the court vs when he's off the court also has the highest delta in key variables in the entire league (defensive rating, offensive rating, etc). So no, not absurd.@@soonerhammons

    • @Smido83
      @Smido83 Před měsícem +2

      @@WhipItSBreezy Look up Kareems rookie season, and the Bucks record the year before... or Wilts rookie season when he won the MVP. Yes, they were older, still rookies. Best rookie season by a player under 20 when the season started? There is a real argument. Best rookie ever? No, just no.

    • @seanknox5785
      @seanknox5785 Před měsícem +1

      @@soonerhammonswhat do you mean it’s absurd?
      😂

    • @bilogskii2216
      @bilogskii2216 Před měsícem +1

      @@soonerhammons Not on the real of absurdity if you go by per 36 minutes which is Wemby's argument against because of his limited minutes played.

  • @javiswalker7728
    @javiswalker7728 Před měsícem +2

    Wemby is a real alien. That guy is from another planet and I'm glad I actually get to see him play

  • @Anthony-pw8hj
    @Anthony-pw8hj Před měsícem +21

    Pop deserves Wenby

  • @drewbreezy5854
    @drewbreezy5854 Před měsícem +1

    Idk...but I am really happy these guys are having so much fun. So much fun that they will remind you of it every 15-20 seconds. Love that.

  • @bonerjoe1230
    @bonerjoe1230 Před měsícem +5

    At this point it's not a rookie of the year race, it's a showcase

  • @kelleyeidem667
    @kelleyeidem667 Před měsícem +2

    Each time Wemby's block results in a change of possession, it is worth about an extra point for the Spurs over a block that allows the opposing team to keep possession of the ball. Plus it's hella awesome to see him either 'catch' the opponent's shot attempt or pin it against the glass. Each one is a change of possession.

  • @daflinboy57
    @daflinboy57 Před měsícem +6

    Wemby should be defensive player of the year!

  • @maceel313
    @maceel313 Před měsícem +16

    Wemby is all time talent and very important is that he landed on Spurs.
    He will have best possible chance to grow in all-time great player.

  • @pianoman5781
    @pianoman5781 Před měsícem

    Just wanted to say, that your NBA videos are the best

  • @mattschoonover1483
    @mattschoonover1483 Před 15 dny +1

    This is a once-in-a-lifetime talent getting a Doctorate from Pop. Let's not over-complicate this. If he had gone to Charlotte, you might have seen more production earlier, but you wouldn't have seen the growth. Also, they just beat the Nuggets tonight, and Wemby was the best player on the floor. They caused a 5 sec on the last possession and it looked like they had just won the Title. That is Pop's influence.

  • @anthonyguerin7659
    @anthonyguerin7659 Před měsícem +4

    I'm an OKC fan so I love Chet but Wembanyama is clearly above anything we've seen.

  • @natevisuals4120
    @natevisuals4120 Před měsícem +5

    I’m glad you see the light JJ

  • @nicholastrudeau7581
    @nicholastrudeau7581 Před měsícem +4

    I simply want to declare how spoiled I am as a sports fan. I am now in my mid-40s and have been both a Chiefs and Spurs fan for practically 30 years. I not only get to enjoy the run Patrick has taken my Chiefs for the past 6 years, but now, after enjoying the ride Timmy, Manu, and Tony took the Spurs on what has already become 10 years ago, but now get to enjoy watching Victor develop on my favorite team! He could possibly be the best player in the league by the end of next season!

    • @seththomas6727
      @seththomas6727 Před měsícem +1

      Those are two random teams to love ha

    • @nicholastrudeau7581
      @nicholastrudeau7581 Před měsícem +1

      @@seththomas6727 well, I grew up in the Kansas City metro and was drawn to the Admiral and their head coach, Larry Brown, being a former coach of the Jayhawks.

  • @dreamweaver80
    @dreamweaver80 Před měsícem +3

    Once he gets a few solid vets, a second legit star and an efficient PG it is over.

  • @jacobreyes5357
    @jacobreyes5357 Před 13 dny

    I think the best compliment to Victor is the state of the game today. He is so versatile and moves so smoothly. His ability to shoot the 3, learning to post up and play one on one in the post, he can make mid range shots, great shot blocker, he can pass the ball on par with Pops expectation, he fits the culture of the Spurs and he’s a true 5 tool star. He learned the speed of the game very quickly and he’s only going to be more dangerous

  • @nerdzone
    @nerdzone Před měsícem +4

    I am an OKC fan and I believe that Chet should be second in RotY. Realistically he is not doing as much as Wembanyama which is really not to blame him. He is not asked to do that since the team does not need it. JJ Redick said it best. We have to account for role.

  • @kylechmielewski9972
    @kylechmielewski9972 Před měsícem +10

    I was on team Chet and I was 100% wrong. Chet is incredible and is going to dominate for many years but Wemby is the best rookie I've seen since Lebron.

    • @fabioragone22
      @fabioragone22 Před měsícem +3

      Same here. I love seeing how Chet fit into the OKC squad and I love watching them playing. But individually speaking, Wemby is a whole different thing.

    • @lixondarvish7334
      @lixondarvish7334 Před měsícem +1

      By the way he has been waaAy better than Lebron as a rookie

    • @adrian_21055
      @adrian_21055 Před měsícem +1

      Better than lebron

  • @markbantz9699
    @markbantz9699 Před měsícem

    Great show!

  • @stansmith8158
    @stansmith8158 Před 28 dny

    his physical attributes help even more than i thought they would and that not trying to take anything from his skill cuz he gots that for days tooo

  • @georgevalgood1718
    @georgevalgood1718 Před 20 dny

    Lo mejor del joven Víctor,es su inteligencia, su personalidad tranquila, es muy respetuoso, sabe que está aprendiendo y vaya que aprende y rápido, además la madurez se adquiere con el tiempo, además tiene unos maestros geniales en su aprendizaje, por ejemplo el no va al choque con los otros pivots, pero sus desplazamientos son rápidos, sus manos siempre están encima y el joven lo hace increíblemente bien y en la ofensiva tiene que santos recursos que es alucinante, gracias a los comentaristas por sus análisis

  • @Ed_Crane
    @Ed_Crane Před měsícem +1

    “At the time, I’d still pick Holgrem”
    Lmao, that was like 3 weeks ago..😂

  • @haoncampbellpodcast6265
    @haoncampbellpodcast6265 Před měsícem +1

    If you gave him an all player at point and another good small forward who’s about the 3 & D, sky is the limit
    without them sky is still the limit

  • @zethjugos1250
    @zethjugos1250 Před měsícem +2

    Wemby has gotten used to the physicality and people trying to bully him....he now knows he is bigger and stronger than most guys. He has become more vocal and a leader on the floor

  • @TheManuG23
    @TheManuG23 Před měsícem +2

    Appreciate the honesty about getting a take wrong ...but it's a sports take. An apology is a bit dramatic ha. More media revising their takes and admitting simply they got something wrong would be great and is refreshing 👏🏽

  • @broncokonco
    @broncokonco Před měsícem +1

    His learning curve is rounding out so fast. Theoretically it should peak much higher than average too.

  • @trysephiroth007
    @trysephiroth007 Před měsícem +9

    The Spurs will be up 10 when Wemby comes out and everyone is just hoping the Spurs don't get blown out while he's off the court

    • @bvaldez21
      @bvaldez21 Před měsícem +2

      I remember one game he went out and it was 15 - 9. by the time he came back in, it was 17-29, lol!

    • @reynalyndapat6284
      @reynalyndapat6284 Před měsícem

      @@bvaldez21 I think that was against the lakers. Its really nerve wracking with him not on the floor.

  • @hamogangstah21
    @hamogangstah21 Před měsícem

    the "BAGRAM" reference was goated 💯💥

  • @kingtrel3717
    @kingtrel3717 Před měsícem +3

    I feel good to be a Spurs fan

  • @MeechYaboy
    @MeechYaboy Před měsícem +2

    The initial disappoint came from the spurs offensively looking like a pickup men’s game. Team throwing up shots before Wemby got down the court, in turn that had him playing a style where he wasn’t 14:13 really a matchup problem despite still having decent numbers. When the team Iq improves it will be a problem.

  • @blablablaa14
    @blablablaa14 Před měsícem +11

    I am so happy no one can deny Vic. Someone will come in and say anything bad basketball wise about Wemby he getting shut down by everyone else

  • @Mescalero7
    @Mescalero7 Před měsícem +1

    "It's just fun, it's just fun. Basketball is fun." Yes it is!

  • @aminechajar8221
    @aminechajar8221 Před měsícem +2

    It makes me laugh how Americans are shocked by Wemby's level of skill and how strong he is, whereas we French have known that since he was 15.😂

  • @TheGreenProspective
    @TheGreenProspective Před měsícem

    I love this stuff.

  • @MannyB29
    @MannyB29 Před měsícem +13

    It was not Spurs fans, it was everyone with eyes.
    There's a reason even back then the dislike ratio was so high.
    He only got better.

    • @MarquisVegan
      @MarquisVegan Před měsícem

      I can’t even see the dislikes anymore.

  • @Doooooooo
    @Doooooooo Před měsícem +5

    I can see multiple quadruple doubles coming down the pipeline for wemby

  • @ebok33643
    @ebok33643 Před měsícem +5

    People need to understand how important it has been that he was drafted to a team with a coach and front office that has structure. Imagine if this guy was drafted by a team like the 76ers. Wemby is also a lucky guy too.

    • @RhumFr
      @RhumFr Před měsícem +2

      I don't think so... Wemby was trained in France and had the same mentality. I think he would have done great even in an other team

    • @ebok33643
      @ebok33643 Před měsícem +2

      @@RhumFr I’m not talking about his ability to do better in any other team. I’m talking about having a structure and patience to maximise his god given skill set at that height. There were some great talents in the past who have not been able maximise due to front office, bad systems, bad ownership and other non-basketball intangibles

    • @eggstube
      @eggstube Před měsícem +2

      You're completely right. As a seed, he required the right soil. Most NBA teams, aren't the right soil for the majority of young players.

    • @ebok33643
      @ebok33643 Před měsícem +1

      @@eggstube Short term gains are incentivised rather than sustainable long term gains in front offices. So GM are worried about today and tomorrow rather than in 5 years with a super talent. Most often that leads to never ending player changes and excuses to keep their own jobs. 76ers are an example of jumping from one thing to another every year.

    • @michaelbuto305
      @michaelbuto305 Před měsícem

      @@ebok33643 Now they suffer from Embidd injury. Its also prove if GM got a backbone, they can hit another jokic like Denver did.
      With today world economic, i love to have most GM to be level-headed and want to invest. After that NBA going into whole new level.
      Sadly, i think this era will have big player, big iq dominant with teamplay.

  • @atomknight8361
    @atomknight8361 Před měsícem +3

    Letting Chet be eligible for ROY when its his second year has always been the real problem for me, but without him theres no drama in the competition at all

    • @forgive.them.
      @forgive.them. Před měsícem

      Exactly, we all have to pretend like he's on his first year.

  • @SicariiDTenebris
    @SicariiDTenebris Před měsícem +2

    I believe he's the clear RotY but he should be highly considered for DPoY as well.

  • @GymJohn
    @GymJohn Před měsícem +5

    This isn’t a debate about legends, but I’m glad that wemby has the mentality that he does. he has the chance to be an all-time great, and just the way he speaks passionately about basketball and his mentality feels very kobe/mj like. The NBA needs more people like him, rather than players, who just want to collect a check.

  • @JarrodFLif3r
    @JarrodFLif3r Před měsícem +4

    In almost any other season, Chet would easily win RotY. Unfortunately his injury last season put him in the same rookie class as Wemby

  • @brichb87
    @brichb87 Před 17 dny

    The stats are so astronomically absurd it gave me chills

  • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
    @iwishiwasthomasshelby Před měsícem +9

    To me, it was clear from the get-go that Wemby and Chet weren’t even in the same class.

    • @gabrielcarrasco9078
      @gabrielcarrasco9078 Před měsícem +4

      Yeah the fact Wemby has to eclipse Chet to win ROTY says so much about narratives for the NBA. I get they want a rivalry between two promising players. We all do. But Chet plays on a much better team. Wemby averages 3.4 APG, could easily be 5 or more with better teammates.

    • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
      @iwishiwasthomasshelby Před měsícem +1

      @@gabrielcarrasco9078 agreed. Just the stuff he does on the court being the focal point of opposing defenses. Chet is the third option. I’ve been both the first and lesser options. Night and day.
      Also, the tough part of the NBA isn’t just the games. It’s the travel. The two a days. The quick turn-around between games )(one scouting report just done, gave to start prepping for the next), diet, regimen, understanding the ins and outs, learning the offenses and defenses, knowing how to taking to certain situations and what to take away from huskies, etc.
      Chet got a year of that whereas Wemby just came in as a foreigner. An example would be a high schooler living college life and sitting in on college classes for a year but not being tested or scored then taking the class the second year, vs. a high schooler taking the class right off the bat. Not even course.
      It was just such an overwhelming advantage in Chet’s situation and these people are making it a rivalry because they got skill similar stats through a handful of games lol. Sometimes I wonder if people just look at stats and make their final determination. Wemby is only going to be better.

  • @brodesto22
    @brodesto22 Před měsícem +41

    Going from "there is nothing wemby can do to win ROTY" to "he is having the greatest rookie season of all time" in just 4 weeks should tell you everything you need to know about how much effort they put into their analysis'.

    • @thebigmanufacturer
      @thebigmanufacturer Před měsícem +7

      He started putting up Wilt numbers this last month or two lol. He wasnt doing that at the beginning of the year. Chet had more output by Christmas, on a better team.

    • @thebigmanufacturer
      @thebigmanufacturer Před měsícem

      It also wasnt 4 weeks. Not even close. You were mad about the take 4 weeks ago though

    • @thebigmanufacturer
      @thebigmanufacturer Před měsícem

      5 weeks ago, JJ called the race “neck and neck”

    • @shotoutgames8823
      @shotoutgames8823 Před měsícem

      Up till then Wemby was one of the most inefficient shooters in the league

    • @Dave-to5it
      @Dave-to5it Před měsícem +9

      @@thebigmanufacturer Holy passion, it's alright bro everybody has bad takes

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 Před měsícem +39

    Wemby has to win both the ROTY and the DPOY.

    • @kylecallis77
      @kylecallis77 Před měsícem

      No bodied to much

    • @ebok33643
      @ebok33643 Před měsícem +1

      Can you believe the Spurs go from dead last to 6th best defensive unit in the league with Wemby on?

    • @kujklokp
      @kujklokp Před měsícem +2

      DPOY? LMAO. Sengun dropped 45 on his head.

    • @TheGamingAltar
      @TheGamingAltar Před měsícem +3

      ​@@kujklokpDuop Reath dropped 26 on Govert literally the night before the Spurs played the Rockets and Wemby blocked Sengun multiple times

    • @ebok33643
      @ebok33643 Před měsícem +5

      @@kujklokp Ben Simmons (the non-scorer) dropped 42 on Rudy Gorbert in the year he won DPOY. Embiid dropped 51, Murray dropped 41, Randal/Monk/Luka all dropped 39 on Rudy this year. Rudy is the leading candidate for DPOY this year. Your point man?

  • @RMASUPERFLY
    @RMASUPERFLY Před měsícem +6

    And do not forget, Chet is 2 years older than Wemby. 2 years! Imagine what Wemby will do with 2 more years of development.

  • @Phizzo4real
    @Phizzo4real Před měsícem

    Now, i want to see that video

  • @gonefishin4244
    @gonefishin4244 Před 23 dny

    Webby was my #1 fantasy pick. He's going to be a legend.

  • @MichaelAruba
    @MichaelAruba Před měsícem +3

    As a Spurs fan, I'll be the first to say I didn't hold it against people if they chose Chet for ROTY before the New Year. Wemby was putting up some impressive stat lines but Chet was almost matching them. So when people were factoring in wins to the equation, I didn't agree but I saw the logic. Now, if you think Chet is the ROTY you're either an OKC fan or a hater lol

    • @austincullum4813
      @austincullum4813 Před měsícem +1

      As an OKC fan it took me awhile to concede ROTY to Wemby, but we can't win every trophy and Wemby really is special. Still not backing off SGA for MVP though.

  • @jojozahau
    @jojozahau Před měsícem +2

    You're a true Gentleman.

  • @DavidQuinoneswrites
    @DavidQuinoneswrites Před měsícem +2

    Chet is great but he doesn't belong in the same conversation as Wemby. Best rookie big since Shaq.

  • @JamesBond-jd8xo
    @JamesBond-jd8xo Před měsícem +1

    I don’t think any rookies out there, even come close to what this guy Vic can do. He has shown veterans players that he’s in higher levels than a lot of players. 110% rookie of the year.

  • @jean-lucguitton9003
    @jean-lucguitton9003 Před měsícem +30

    We French told you all, you were not ready for Vic...

    • @RooseCochran
      @RooseCochran Před měsícem +5

      We of Spurs Nation beloved and hoped for that.

    • @Nicobs2k6
      @Nicobs2k6 Před měsícem +2

      @@RooseCochran We know, and that's why we have a special place for the Spurs in your hearts ;)

    • @Al-ph6gl
      @Al-ph6gl Před měsícem +1

      I dont think the world is ready for this man. He is truly an 👽

  • @timcordier9748
    @timcordier9748 Před 14 dny

    Wembanyama is going to be the most unstoppable player of all time. He hasn’t even developed his signature moves yet. This guy could average 40 20 5 assists and 5 blocks a game for his career and I wouldn’t even be surprised.

  • @astheskylarksings
    @astheskylarksings Před měsícem +2

    Wemby is showing basically the skill gap between Wilt and his competitors.

  • @numailer
    @numailer Před měsícem +2

    I'm a Spurs fan. Love Wemby. Amazing young talent. Watch him play every game. But... For the love of God... Can we please stop with these stupid stat permutations? These "first player in history to block at least two shots AND play at least 22 minutes AND make 4 threes AND get a technical foul AND get tripped at center court" are getting so ridiculous you could sensationalize literally anybody if you look long enough.

  • @theskypriest
    @theskypriest Před měsícem +1

    Wemby locked in, just give him time. That will tell the story. I’d bet the house that he’s gonna be great. 1 if not 2 of the new generation.

  • @kwilliams1958
    @kwilliams1958 Před měsícem

    Such an enlightening pod to listen to these three men who actually can talk hoop and not scream opinions.

  • @robertthomas888
    @robertthomas888 Před 23 dny

    As a life long Spurs fan, no one made the HOF in the first year, but a clean playing team is better than a drama filled team, give #1 a couple of years, we will still stand behind our team. !!!

  • @Munchkkinz
    @Munchkkinz Před měsícem

    he called wemby a demigod lmao bro definitely plays 2k🔥

  • @Delta66-jz1vl
    @Delta66-jz1vl Před měsícem +1

    Chet stats for march so far:
    28 min, 13 Pts, 46% 2pt, 21% 3pt, 81% FT, 7.8 Rbd, 2.6 Ast, 0.8 Blk, 0.2 Stl
    I can't imagine the reactions if Wemby had such a stats line

  • @JamesStiling1985
    @JamesStiling1985 Před měsícem +3

    Chet would win most years, but Wemby is one of the best Rookies ever.

  • @philipwacker4629
    @philipwacker4629 Před měsícem

    Man. Basketball is so much fun.

  • @kimtan95
    @kimtan95 Před měsícem

    love from wemby

  • @JoeyyJr
    @JoeyyJr Před měsícem +2

    The conversation has shifted from is he rookie of the year? To is he the defensive player of the year as well?
    No disrespect to Chet, any other year he'd be ROTY.

  • @GerardoTostado
    @GerardoTostado Před měsícem +1

    These guys had to see wemby absolutely dominate Chet just to understand what we all did 2 months ago. Chet is great. Wendy had a chance to be goat and I think he knows it. He reminds me of young Kobe in the way he articulates himself and the drive. This kid came into the league with a Steph curry level pre game routine. This kid is locked in like no one since maybe Lebron or Kobe

  • @josealva
    @josealva Před měsícem +2

    Wemby was always better from the start. He scored 38 points against the Suns near the start of the season. Problem is the Spurs are a bad team and hard to watch sometimes. Feels bad that they were going to penalize Wemby for being in a bad team.

  • @chrisc1072
    @chrisc1072 Před měsícem

    i want to see you talk about the "we done with the 90s"

  • @sleek86
    @sleek86 Před měsícem

    the way i see it is chet is putting up some decent stats across the board and more efficient on offence however if you ignore turnover, feb has been a breakout month for wemby confidence wise, STOCKS (steals=blocks) are crazy in feb, 71 to 41 and +34 on the boards over chet. with a higher ppg for feb. if wemby continues this is a wrap for both dpoy and roy

  • @MaximusR93
    @MaximusR93 Před měsícem +2

    Here’s the problem with the whole “different roles“ argument for Chet versus Victor. I fully believe that if Victor was on a team with an MVP caliber player like Shai, and multiple other competent scores and passers, defenses would not pay nearly as much attention to him, much like Chet is played now. The only difference is, while Chet is very efficient in his role, I really believe that Victor would average 25 PPG and 13 RBS. I am very efficient shooting. Chet gets wide open looks in the flow of the offense, Victor is having to be out on an island for most of the season, just having to create everything for himself. He’s also much more aggressive than Chet, and I think this is just the rookie year difference between a potential GOAT candidate, and a potential all NBA talent. Both are great, but there is a considerable gap.

  • @delldorado9892
    @delldorado9892 Před měsícem

    How could anyone not see this? I seen this last year, especially knowing he beat Rudy Gobert at 16 lol. He can move more athletic than most guards. And can shoot uncontested for the most of the time. Legend in the making. Can’t believe you didn’t see that. And everyone talks about basketball IQ. lol Vic is one of the best rookies ever. He doesn’t even play 30 minutes and we do not even know many players on his team, still averages double double and leads league in blocks.

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC Před měsícem

    You can only have an athletic big (however big that is on your roster) play him tight before he even gets the ball and just try to make him work as much as possible.

  • @dndkenny
    @dndkenny Před 11 dny

    Got to watch his last game of the season, at home against the Nuggets, and to see him play in person is breathtaking. Closest to NBA2K24 in the flesh. Further more, his humility and desires to learn and improve are perhaps the biggest part of his game, it’s just non analytic, although it appears to be endless.

  • @j8k3d18
    @j8k3d18 Před 13 dny +1

    I don’t think it’s crazy to say Wemby might be the MVP next year.
    I’ve just never seen anything like this. Not even old Wilt games. Insane.

  • @kenrrycastillo6185
    @kenrrycastillo6185 Před 25 dny

    If wemby can master the “Kobe mid range” game, he’ll be even more unstoppable

  • @blitzandgoo
    @blitzandgoo Před měsícem

    It honestly hasn't been a discussion since mid January.

  • @AlexanderDinero713
    @AlexanderDinero713 Před měsícem

    Bro on the bottom right looked absolutely zooted 🤣