The OKC Thunder Rebuild Is (Somehow) Just Beginning..
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2023
- Okay, maybe COMPLETED isn't the right word. Only because they have the greatest stockpile of draft picks the league has ever seen still at their disposal.
But they're the 2nd seed in the West and 2nd in the league in Net Rating, so we get to call it complete lol. - Sport
I don't think they need a superstar, let this young core develops naturally. Shay and chet wil be those superstars
This is honestly a clear cut thing just goes to show to many people just think like Stephen smith it’s best to let your players develop especially when they’re playing like this
OKC just needs another big man or 2. Cant put all the cards on stickman Chet
Nah man J dub a star too
As a Celtics fan homegrown superstars hit different 🔥
omg, imagine OKC having Sengun at the moment. bloody hell, what a force
Bra I was just finna say they need a nasty pf
They wouldn’t have got Chet smh
@@marioooletsgoooo sengun wasnt that good back then to effect draft odds
@@marufjaved6551They literally got their odds to go into top 4 at Game 82. Go back and look at the tank race
sengun is good but he needs the ball in hands to be most effective. Not a good fit
I want to see OKC trade for Lauri Markennen. I think he would be a perfect fit on that team
That’s not a bad idea at all. But I don’t see Ainge even putting him on the table
He’s not for sale and has shown he’s better as a 1st than a 3rd. No.
This reminds of the rumors that teams were gonna trade for SGA, but thunder fans knew Presti wasn’t gonna trade him.
Yah I don’t know why people worry if he were traded that he wouldn’t preform honestly he’d be the same if not better because who he’s surrounded by great passers, defense, and good shooters/ shot creators
I could actually see that
Presti is like that one dude who practices doing fantasy drafts in 2k and finds the best picks
I feel like some people are forgetting that the Thunder, Spurs, and Trailblazers basically control the draft for the next 5 plus years with all their picks. Thunder still have a lot of assets to add a star player at some point if they need to.
Jazz*
@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381yes, people forget the Jazz and their haul. Which will get bigger when they trade Clarkson and Markenun.
OKC are currently way ahead of their growth trajectory, but they can't settle for 1st round playoffs exits like they did between 2016 and 2020. I wonder which will come first? OKC making it to conf finals or they put 3 players on rookie max or veteran max contracts. Personally, I see a lot of similarities between this team and the 2013 Warriors and 2010 Thunder. Which way will it go will depend on the owner's willingness to spend and the team's performance in the playoffs.
I feel like they could win it all this year they are young and chemistry will only grow. Biggest factor will be their health come playoff time but I honestly don't see any teams even if the Thunder add no one as deeper depth wise which plays a bigger factor then most realize.
@@matthewroller5412yup.... I know forsure if I'm Denver this is the team i want to avoid....but something tells me denver may not even reach the finals. The NBA seems to be moving away from dynasties since the warriors. It seems like it's more balanced and competitive now. I don't think Denver is untouchable the way the warriors were (just really unbeatable for those few yrs)
OKC has had an easy schedule so far. Few back to backs and a slew of home games. Before you punch their ticket, let them play a full schedule. And that Denver team you are dismissing is a half game out of first yet has had to play nearly50% of their games as back to backs and has played more games than any other team. OKC caught them on a back to back last time in fact. People always overlook the nuances of the schedule, which is why playoffs turn out the way they do.
@@Kingfisher1215as two weeks have passed since this comment the OKC are #1 in the west and and have beaten the clippers and Denver and the spurs and the Timberwolves. This team has heart and potential they will have a chip with in the next two years so long as they don’t try to “fix” what isn’t broken as in trading away their depth and youth for a blown out “superstar”
Presti has been adamant in every offseason this is still a rebuild in progress. But as a fan of the team it has been the coolest narrative to follow this team’s comeback to relevance. I think the team finally surpasses the rebuild moniker after this season.
It’ll be interesting to see if Giddey is shipped for a top player or picks if at all.
Honestly, ship Giddey and all necessary picks/pieces to Chicago and go for LaVine. Gets rid of the problem child for both teams, Chicago can start their rebuild, and OKC gets an elite SG.
Giddy does have a child problem lol
Not no more he doesn't @@idkmybffjill9682
Great video! You'll be doing well on this platform.
Also, as an okc fan, boy does this have me hyped up.
As a fan since 08, I think a good fit would be siakam or Lauri. Players that defend and don’t depend on having the ball to score. A player who is willing to fit into a scheme.
Finally, some respect on Siakim's name
Siakam is too old
@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381wdym too old, he's only 29, one year older than giannis
@@Aquanians too old for this team
We need someone who can rebound
the pain you reminded me of in the first 3 seconds opened up old wounds. great video though keep up with the great content
hardwood, you are still so underrated. the first time i saw one of your videos i thought you had
thank you so much. This means the world. Trying to build something here and work as hard as possible to provide the best videos for yall
They are in a great spot, but it was far from a perfect rebuild. They passed on getting Quickley, McDaniels, Sengun, and Franz Wagner. Presti salvaged this by drafting Chet, Jalen Williams, Wallace (although it's a little early with him), and picking Isaiah Joe up off the scrap heap, after the 76ers released him. SGA becoming a superstar is the reason they are already a top 10 team in the league. They have a lot of good role players too.
cant get them all, and its really just sengun and franz that he missed. plus with draft capital, he can easily trade the picks from those trades back for quality players.
Salvaged?!? Bro Presti made a plan and had a system to get his guys. Every team went with their guys. The only rebuild to argue against this one is the alternate timeline OKC rebuild that doesn’t exist where they hit on every pick.
Lol you can’t draft perfectly every single year
U got Josh giddey to he’s in deep water rn but a solid player
Lmao this fool thinks you can perfectly pick every single player.
We might just see an OKC dynasty
OKC is in a great spot. SGA is an All NBA guy and Chet looks like he can be a major piece on a winning team and they have other young talent as well plus their cache of picks is amazing.
However I would like to see them empty out some of their picks to add a piece to the current team. These windows to win don’t stay open forever and they can’t use all of those picks. It’s best for them to try to add a big piece to take their shot now.
Okc will be giving away a lot of picks over the next few years, already have 3 players who will be all stars and more (sga,Chet,jdub) with Cason,Joe, and jwill on the bench. Throw in dort and Giddey which I think Giddey will be the odd man out even still. The top 3 will get big money, Cason and Joe will get good money, dort will be due for another contract. If 3 of those 10+ picks hit that’s damn near a full roster and 1st picks are guaranteed… about to be a sticky situation.
Not really, you can consolidate those picks for a player at the deadline or simply trade them and push the picks back a few years like they did with Denver. Teams always need picks especially the contenders
If anyone could handle that situation it's presti. I agree Giddey looks like the odd man out at the moment. But the beauty is the rookies don't really get extensions to their 4/5 season. Meaning Presti has a bunch of flexibility. With how the NBA offseason is so drama filled wouldn't be surprised at if a young superstar becomes available within the next 12-18 months lol
Sheesh coming back after okc got 1st seed is wild how much you foresaw
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I think they’re still a year away from making a finals but to be so young, so loaded with assets…they will be the team to beat for years
When the Suns inevitably fail, Presti should make an offer for KD they can't refuse.
Personally, I’m ok with not having Durant.
I’m still amazed they have yet to mess up with any of those picks from all the trades. Pftt with all the pics they got there set till 2030 they boutta run the next 5 years and I’m not even an okc fan and I’m excited
Great video
Very informative
Sam presti has sone a phenomenal job
He will have okc in position for a chip
I swear this CZcams has like a hundred subscribers weeks ago
Nice job cuh
I know you can never know how a player would have developed in a different system, but insane to think the Thunder could have had Quickley and Sengun on a already young and rising team
Bro your content is fire. Keep it up.
Thank you so much!
Now this is a rebuild done right.
I’d say the scariest part is Josh has been playing his worst ball ever and this is what we look like. When he’s over the yips, what then?
Chet and SGA were soooo damn good tonight
Lauri Markkanen, bench giddy, he generally plays more effectively with the second squad any ways. Now your starting 5, is SGA, Dort, JDub, Lauri and Chet, 1st rotation is Giddy, Joe, Cason, Kenny and Jwill. That is a damn good squad right there.
Your acting like none of them gotta be traded to get lauri🤦🏻♂️
I mean just trade Giddey, he is their weakness in the starting lineup, Josh Giddey with a few 1st and 2nd round picks and maybe one of the bench players is a good enoigh deal for Markkanen, I mean as a developing team, which the Jazz ar, getting like 3-5 guaranteed first round picks in the upcoming years is a godsend
@@bulja80085he wasn’t today he actually shot the ball more and looked like he did last year just needs the ball in his hands more and he can do everything on the court
Presti's best move was insisting that SGA be included in the Paul George trade. SGA is way better than George now. Presti has proven he recognizes talent.
Wish we kept that timberwolves pick, jaden McDaniels is a stud, and would fit perfectly into the current roster.
It’s crazy to see how todays clippers team and players is really connected to the thunders rise. Two of the best teams in the west today, I’d say they both turned out alright
Yes they are still pretty much starting and its crazy to think of. They still have their rebounding issue to solve.
They do need to figure out rebounding. You know ball if you’re bringing that up haha
Nba fans really underestimate how important rebounding is the team that gets the most boards usually wins @hardwood_yt
Chet is not in the paint on offense which is the reason for low rebounds, they need to get a 4 who can do it or chet has to change his game which is really bad
Underrated pickup not mentioned in this video: getting shooting coach Chip Engelland. Probably helps explain the killer shooting
They need to package these picks for cheap great role players under long term contracts. My Wolves have Naz Reid and is the perfect example of a guy they should try to get. Isiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, and some firsts could get it done this season. Minnesota loves Naz and so do I, but this could allow us to keep Anderson and Conley next offseason. And we add a great shooter, a good 2 way forward off the bench, and multiple young players long term. It’s a risk, but it’s probably the best move to make sure this Wolves team can last for years to come and improve.
Im sorry but i don't see OKC directly trading to a conferecne rival who will be competing with them for the next several seasons for competition in the West seeding.
Crazy how successful their rebuild has been despite giving up Quickley, JMac, and Sengun, and passing up on Desmond Bane, Franz Wagner, and Jalen Duren
Win something first then that’s successful 😂,or at least mAke a deep run
They have largest data science team in nba 😅
Everyone makes mistakes, but the thunder make less mistakes than most
Imagine if they had Quickley and McDaniels instead of Poku. The team literally wouldn't have enough minutes to go around.
Drafts are always unpredictable. Hindsight is 20/20
ESPN needs to do a 30 for 30 on Sam Presti!
The Thunder need to flip some of those picks for an established player. Bertans contract will help match salaries. Some of these pick swaps to move up in the draft haven't helped them that much. If they plan on doing it all through the draft, they're going to need to get lucky. The draft is a complete gamble. Guys that can be amazing in college can be much less effective in the NBA. Once these young players start coming off of their rookie deals this team is either going to lock in on them, or have to let them walk and keep replenishing with draft picks. I think that this team could be a championship contender today if they went out and made something happen. Nothing crazy, but something reasonable. They missed out on Porzingas. That would have been a great pairing with Chet and the price on Porzingas wasn't high. Marcus Smart and Robert Williams were available. Both of those guys went cheap and would have been great fits for this team. Imagine Chet at the 4 with Williams at the 5 and Bertans contract would have matched straight up with Williams. Portland is rebuilding. They could have got Williams for a late first rounder. I know that he got hurt, but the Thunder should have swooped on him before that even happened. I'm glad that this team is being patient, and not chasing after guys like Zach Levine with a bad contract and a team that's going to want 4 or more first rounders. But they need to do something soon.
No. To any of it. No.
@@andrecambridge4474 Then enjoy the second round of the playoffs for the next decade.
The Thunder don’t need to rush why make a trade when they might not need to, also if okc trade for a player that makes it harder to keep the core also okc not trading for a big to put chet at the 4 they want chet at the 5 majority of trades you named was unrealistic and was never gonna happens plus okc been smart they already been pushing picks further in the future okc will make a move after this season after a playoff appearance to see what they have and who actually a part of the core and who’s not
Your comments a tad confusing, 99% of it is suggesting the thunder need to make unnecessary moves to speed up a rebuilding time line that is already way ahead of schedule and then 1% complementing them on their patience 😂.
You wrong, OKC sint making a Big move. Bertans money Will be used to get another role player, another expiring contract and pay dort/giddy as Will as moving some 2024 picks for 20238-2030
I always rooted for shai even in his rookie year when nobody knew him, i was always saying he was gonna be one of the beat in the leauge.
That’s some phenomenal foresight!
I don't understand this "superstar" talk?! Do the Thunder really need to gamble with chemistry to bring another talent in? Do they not already have enough (potential) superstars on their roster? Love the video, but I think we should save the superstar solutions for the likes of the Lakers, 76ers, and Clippers, etc. This team will be just fine, and I trust that Presti sees this.
I don’t think there’s anyone that would even make sense. Continuity and team building is underrated in the NBA. I don’t see why they can’t stand pat and see what they have this season with Chet being healthy.
Who would they even trade for? Nobody gets me excited
Precisely. Thanks for not being like the infinite others saying names that aren’t for sale or bad ones.
@@hardwood_ytLu Dort and picks for og anunoby is tantalizing
@@ozzee5094nah, SGA loves Lu, a trade like that would negatively impact SGA
@@hardwood_ytcarusso...
I think OG will fit this team perfectly.
Loved the video
you're such an underrated hoop account
Thank you so much Luke!
That thumbnail is fucking beautiful, liked the video just off that quality alone
Thanks man. Wish I could take credit for that one. Found a guy that is incredible and it helped it really come to life
They need a big body defender like Jakob poetle. Also some good rebounders
It's like sam presli is a time traveller bro I swear
He knows the next move
there's something special about having job security and patience to build the right way. I don't know if there's a more patient GM in the league
Presti is OKC's best player.
@@seemooremutts what abt shai?
They should take some of those future draft picks and make a second team in Seattle
We knew this a long time ago when the Shai kawhi trade happened. Okc has draft picks for days
Zach Edey is perfect for OKC's lineup and culture
Okc boutta go crazy
How do we get Adams back or just any bigman willing to play team ball
I hope the NBA going foward starts leaning away from only the big coastal metros being able to win. OKC, Magics, nuggets, kings, pacers. All have so much potential and I’m excited for the league. The only reason I rank the NFL over the NBA is parity. Hopefully the nba can sub-stain this, and all these young budding stars don’t end up leaving for the bigger coastal markets in their prime.
Not the nuggets but Minnesota.
Imagine how good the thunder will be when they cash in on all their picks and their young players get experience. A new Dynasty is coming
They already are freaking amazing. It’s gotta be so much pressure on Presti to make the right move going forward. I believe in him to do it tho
I remember when it was a meme that thunder had so many picks
They dont need a superstar....at all they have a superstar and Chet isn't far behind. This team is scary good and outside them being young they will compete this year for a chip. Only missing piece is a solid Vet for accontability.
Great video
Thank you!
They started rebuilding 4 seasons ago wym it's just beginning 😂
Only part they kinda messed up on was trading alperen for 2 draft picks but at the time thats pretty good. But looking back at it now they slightly lost as hes playing decent on the rockerts right now, one of the better players on that team.
Sengun is a borderline all star. He’s been a revelation this season. However, who knows if they even select him. And it allowed them to get Chet and JDub in 2022. The butterfly effect is real
Your thumbnails are sick man, you make your own?
Thank you! I’ve made all of them except for this most recent Thunder one. But I had the guy just execute the concept
@@hardwood_yt got it, care if I ask who you had make it? Assuming it was off fiver?
Well… When you don’t draft busts
Guys, Presty aint making a big trade this offseason. They will continue making tiny moves to extend their draft capital beyond 2030
Agreed. He’s been very clear that he’s going to be patient. Plus you gotta see what you have with this group in a playoff series
Depends how OKC does this year
good video
okc will go to the finals and still has so many picks. The future is bright for OKC. They will win at least 4 rings in the next 10 years.
nice video bro
Thank you!!
This will be the next team
Presti has proven himself to be the best general manager in the NBA.
How Sam Presti did not yet win an award for executive of the year is baffling.
If all the cards fall in the right places, OKC will be a force for the next 20 years easily.
They shouldn't trade for anyone. Let the boys grow together. In a few years they'll be unstoppable
Sam prestie is by far the best gm in the nba its not even close
It’s kind of crazy how even though he has made some very bad decisions like with Harden and looking back at it now sengun and McDaniels/quickly but even with that he is still the best gm in sports because he hits so much lol
Every team in the league passed on Jokic. You can't get them all right
Nobody going to talk about that picture of Chet???
Giddey with excitement for this youth!
Those who dont know history are doomed to repeat it.
Hot news????
Bronny James to OKC in the 2026 maybe 2027?
They have the picks, think about it. If OKC got James sr in 2025 with thunders extra money if he wants to play alongside his son. Let's go OKC . Think about it.
Easy money even if U trade
I would love to see the Thunder get Zach Edey of Purdue. Thunder need a big, so Chet can be a 4 where he belongs.
Iduno why people are suggesting all these centres when one of the best most diverse rookie centres in NBA history literally just showed up lol
Wait... they drafted Sengun!??
OKC actually might be screwed, they have expiring great talents next two years and they need to sign 7 rookies who are all projected to be in the top 15
Too much money and players to test their fits
Keep like 3 good picks from 2024 and 2025 and trade for a superstar now while you can
Don't know what you need tbh but I know you can't have 30 players on your team lol
naahhh wait till the media ask Shai to move to Lakers 😂
They should go for Draymond
Giddey clearly looks like the odd man out due to the fact they play significantly better with him off the court, also while being patient is important being too patient can cost a team because the nba changes fast and you never know what may happen in 2-3 years. So I think it would make sense to make a few moves to at get some quality vets in and try to aim for a deep playoff run.
also he smashing a 16 yr old
Hope okc learned from from kd, russ and james era.
Does Presti even need to make a trade for a superstar?
29 year old kid is a high tier oxymoron.
Thanks to Paul George trade that making this to happen.
Why does this video don't even have 1k likes?
🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Sam Prestige "biggest scammer ever" in a good way. I love what he did. Low key OK can trade for KD and lose 0 players 😂😂😂 I like that. They wouldn't lose a darn game. And this upcoming draft kinda sucks so why not actually trade for KD or Lauri Markkanen. KD one sounds absurd but it isn't. They can give Suns 8 first rounders. Which would give them 99.99% chance if winning the next 5 chips
I think they should just trade for victor wenbenyama.. give the picks to the spurs!! 😂 okc set maybe 10-15 years if healthy 🎉
Teams like this don't need to acquire a superstar they just need the right fit. The Raptors in 2019 are a great example with marc gasol.
GUARANTEE Kevin Durant hops on this bandwagon when they become enough of a sure thing
Lmfaoooo
Why is one of chet's eyes lower 🤨
No clue. That was the original photo. Could just be the off centered angle
A “perfect” rebuild even with making a few draft and trade mistakes. Envious.
agreed....
I’m so excited to see what Presti does
And to think dame beat a injured Paul George in a buzzer beater and then presti legit said I've had enough these guys are old getting injured every playoffs they suck
Don’t ever trade shai gilgeous Alexander. Shai is a top calibre player the best in the nba
A problem I see is that too many of these superstars are getting a little old.
The problem is that they can't keep all those pick/players.
What a great problem to have!! And they can most def keep the ones further on down the line.
I follow a really good Thunder beat report named Andrew Schlect who was saying he thinks Presti will trade some of these recent firsts for more valuable picks in future years.
Did u just call Jamal Crawford “Jordan Crawford”???😂😂
Timestamp and I’ll take a look lol. I definitely could have. Jordan Crawford played in the NBA for years and I totally could have accidentally said his name lol
@@hardwood_ytaround 5:15
You’re right I did lol. My bad. Totally meant Jamal lol
KD go back and get that ring
who else watching this after they secured the 1 seed
Lfgggg
Nothing went wrong with that okc squad. The refs let Miami win . Go back and watch.
1:56
My point is the premature James Harden trade, and then KD just leaving randomly after tell the Thunder he’s committed lol.
They had three future MVPs. Wild to think about