This Is The Greatest Rebuild The NBA Has Ever Seen
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2024
- It wasn't too long ago when the Oklahoma City Thunder traded away their stars and were ready to start a new era. But in the blink of an eye, they are now back as one of the NBA's most elite teams. How did they rebuild so quickly and effectively? Enjoy!
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That cp3 detour rlly helped to give the jumpshot OKC needed and more important helped Shai become a better player in the long run
100% Just commented the same thought.
I always was more excited for Paul to come for mentorship more than anything
@@bigbangbasketball I didn’t think it would have worked out but it did
I was just about to comment this Chris Paul really helped okc and help sga I would like to see Paul there again just to be a veteran helping young players
_Sam Presti and Danny Ainge are the fathers of fleecing_
From Hinkie to Presti, they played The Process.
The Samvatar
Kevin Prichard says hello.
PG-> Oladipo + Sabonis
Cash -> T.J “Bubble God” Warren
Cash + Late First -> Brogdon
Sabonis -> Haliburton + Hield
Brogdon -> Nesmith
Bruce Brown -> Siakam
So many good trades but those are the most notable. The entire Paul George trade tree is insane.
As a thunder fan who was born in 2006 it was so cool to see KD and Russ years as a kid Loud City was crazy during those times man. Then we had some down years but last year was really good and this Loud City feels the best it’s been in years
how old were you 5 lmao
Sam Presti is a legend. God I hated seeing the Spurs let him go, but can't keep someone that good stuck in an assistant GM role.
Spurs had RC bufford arguably the greatest gm ever lived and chip engelland, the guy who built Leonard from scratch. and they still had presty only as an assistant gm lol.
I like Presti but what makes him a "legend"🤔, he hasn't built a championship culture there!! Let's wait & see because Russ, Kd, & Harden was a swing & a miss.......just saying 😐!!
All I know is if I were an NBA GM, and Sam Presti called me, my first question would be “How’re you trying to fleece me, Sam?”
@@theALMIGHTY987 Not his fault his owner got cheap and wouldn't let him pay Harden.
Presti built the foundation in OKC the culture, environment developing them to improvements and growth from scouting to roster building he did all that contraction from the ground up.
The ones to blame are owners for being cheap back then Presti could do so little back then since he didn't have more control over the team financially but now the owners have learned their lesson from that stupid mistake that cost them a potential Dynasty, Presti has more reigns to the roster that's why this version of OKC will eventually lead to a championship very soon.
Every iteration the Thunder had a contending team the roster was well put out but the players failed to capitalize or execute on the opportunity that ain't Presti's fault anymore when the players come short of what they're capable of@@theALMIGHTY987
It’s crazy I’ve never seen a small market draft 3 MVP players, they all leave, then a few years later gain another MVP caliber player with the potential of a 5th MVP (Chet) depending how he turns out.
6th MVP Caliber will be JDub too the dude has a combination of Harden/Kawhi Hybrid Potential
That was the best rebuild anyone could have hoped for!! After letting Russ and George go, it was the end of an era but man did they come back stronger than ever!!
You guys don't know anything about NBA and OKC. This is the best organization you'll ever seen. All average minds surprise about OKC almost every single year. Except OKC fans.
Stronger than ever is too much they are good and they have the potential to be great, they are not there yet they are decent playoff team for now, no one see them as a contented maybe in 2-3 years with MVP caliber Shai ,ALL NBA Chet and improvement of giddy and the others
@@DalidhouibPREACH, ppl r putting the cart B4 the horse!! Presti is good but what he's done hasn't built a championship culture, let's wait & b patient.......just saying 😐!!
OKC really is in good hands with all those 1st round picks
They have too many first round picks to genuinely use. A lot of them will be draft capital they'll use for trades in the future.
As a Seattle fan- then OKC fan it's about time we get that ring man, over 10 years in the making
Thats my story too. Was a GP-Kemp-H.Hawkins-Nate-Big Smooth-Schrempf-George Karl fan & followed team to OKC. I always say 3 different Lottery Wins for the #2 pick. 3 diiferent great eras/rebuilds. The Glove - KD- Chet. All 3 teams were the most exciting teams of their Decade.
I know Seattle was sad to lose the Sonics but the team is loved here in OKC. This team means alot to the people of Oklahoma.
You're cursed
@@dylanrhoades4408 that's funny cuz we might be getting the Seahawks soon as well. Team contracts run out in 2025 😝
A lot of underrated role players on OKC. Aaron Wiggins, Kenrich Williams, Isiah Joe would all get big minutes on other teams.
Probably would not be false to say that Isaiah would be a starter on half of teams.
76ers did not use Isaiah Joe well
aaron wiggins is extremely good
People don’t realize how deep OKC is because they play like 12 players every night, so their stats aren’t as high as they could be.
Cason Wallace, Tre Mann, Luguentz Dort, Ousimine Dieng also
I mean give Sam Presti credit for all of this. He should be Executive of the Year someday.
Orioles did the same in baseball
The Lions did the same in NFL
THATS how the thunder rebuild reminds me of
@@jonathanfrimerman8855 What does this have to do with NFL? get out of here.
@@jonathanfrimerman8855 totally. The Lions are the okc of football. They got a decent QB and a bunch of picks
Let's wait & see if what Presti has done can build a championship culture there!!
Presti built the foundation in OKC the culture, environment developing them to improvements and growth from scouting to roster building he did all that contraction from the ground up.
The ones to blame are owners for being cheap back then Presti could do so little back then since he didn't have more control over the team financially but now the owners have learned their lesson from that stupid mistake that cost them a potential Dynasty, Presti has more reigns to the roster that's why this version of OKC will eventually lead to a championship very soon.
Every iteration the Thunder had a contending team the roster was well put out but the players failed to capitalize or execute on the opportunity that ain't Presti's fault anymore when the players come short of what they're capable of
For some reason this OKC core will form the basis of a better all-around team that wins a title unlike the KD/Westbrook/Harden years
“Some reason” is that that this unit has WAY more chemistry and fits so much better together. They play together and they play much smarter than the old team.
Yes and the league has more parity nowadays. Right now you don't see a team that plays like a juggernait compared to many others, so the championship race is wide open, and it seems like teams like the Thunder have more opportunity to thrive and eventually win a championship. The teams that are suppoused to win because of star power have been failing repeatedly in the regular season and playoffs, so when we see a team who play like OKC we'll be more inclined to think they can make it. It's the reason the Nuggets went on to be champions last year, and the reason I thought they'd had to prove themselves yet again this year, the league is still wide open.
Hey Andy I’ve been following u for a while now (2018) and ur past videos are obviously amazing, but these longer videos make sense for you and feel less rushed… we love it, keep up the great work 💪🏽
Jalen Williams has been FANTASTIC. Love watching him with SGA
Kinda reminds me of the Duncan era Spurs, you know there's a hierarchy, and their stars are humble enough to recognize whos's who
It's great seeing your team being competitive while also having a very bright future. Go OKC!
That PG trade is just, WOW!!!
Bro.... I've lived through "Thunder Version 1" and this "Version 2" of the Thunder. And I can without out a doubt say this is one of the best videos, detailing the history of this rebuild. Great video my friend
Andy, your content is consistently so much more original and thoughtful than most NBA content creators. The work you put in shows and I am excited every time I see you’ve released a video. Keep it up man!
bro i just realized presti essentially flipped serge ibaka into sga and 5 first round picks + 2 swaps 😭 thats some 2k rebuild shit
From:
KD-Russ-Ibaka-Green-Adams-Harden-Jackson
To:
SGA-Chet-JDub-Giddey-Lu Dort-Wallace-Ousmane
Shout out to Thunder legends like
CP3, PG13, Carmelo, Muscala, Sefolosha, Robertson, Perkins, Gallinari, Schroeder, Sabonis, Oladipo, Horford, Hill, Bazley, Brown, Diallo, Abrines
Such a luxury, pleasure and spoiled we OKC fans have been for having these types of players even the current day supporting cast are deep like the depth of this roster is extremely good
Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins, Kenrich Williams, Jaylin, Williams, Vasilije Micic, Lindy Waters, Olivier Sarr, Keyonte Johnson would all get big minutes from other teams since they can contribute at a high level.
Perkins???? LOLOLOL!!
I know that OKC didn't win anything yet , but I watched the Pistons game today and some posessions were really ugly, so as a Thunder fan I am so happy to be able to watch a really beautiful style of basketball after being in a similar position as Detroit #ThunderUp
Stuff like this is really the best example to explain why this is a rebuild well done.
Jalen Williams being such a mature young player its a blessing for this team. He is as talented as they go too
It’s almost like if your not rushing chemistry is built ppl wouldn’t understand today they want instant gratification in everything, but the slow step by step grind is fun if you watch the development, and hamper expectations, you will enjoy the little things
Nobody could’ve guessed how great Shai would become. He’ll be a top 10 all time PG when it’s over.
Lol
Top 10? I’d say top 3-5. Only ones over him will be Steph and Magic
@@duffal0 Right now Ja Morant is at least as good as him, if it wasn't for the injury and his off-court antics he would be showing just that. I've only gotten convinced of Shai being comprable just this season, but Ja has been showing even more talent and dominance from year one and is still on path of only getting better (I know Shai is also in that path), if this injury deosn't hamper him.
And remember PG's like Isiah Thomas, Oscar Robertson, and even CP3. AI also had the game, only lacked the championships and more team success. If Shai is to be put in that top 5 is at best a toss up.
@@Epupify Ja Morant is nowhere near Shai. If you seriously believe that you haven’t watched Shai play enough. Shai is the best guard in the league right now, with Luka slightly behind him. According to a shaved metrics he’s the best player in the NBA. Ja is nowhere near Shai defensively and is still a ways behind on offense.
@@duffal0 Ja is a very highly dominant offensive player, and excells at playmaking. He isn't as good a shooter as Shai is, but that's the point of him being an offensive beast, he doesn"t need to, and dominates the game offensively just the same as Shai does. I don't know about his defense, and have probably heard Shai is a very good defender, so can't comment on that, but being a better defender alone doesn't necessarily make Shai the better player.
Also as good as Shai is, Doncic is better (and better than Ja too). I always forget Luka as a PG, but he's another example of why Shai can't be easily considered a top 5 PG of all time.
It will be interesting to see how this group looks in the playoffs
As a Thunder fan, I gotta say this is a great breakdown
Great job
OKC soon in NBA Finals. Mark my words.
Too soon...
marked🎯
Great breakdown.
Andy w the powerpoint transitions😂
I am a fan of OKC Thunder since 3 years old and I'm 19 years old today, I love Loud City!!
It's gonna be super tricky how Presti will manage the picks and trades moving forward. The chemistry is so good! Will a big splashy move kill the vibes? Very tricky fine line
I personally believe and not everybody has to agree with it, that Chris Paul has to get some credit for willingly mentoring SGA for that season he was there. And i feel that it doesn't get brought up sometimes. He's in no way responsible but every great veteran player could leave a lasting impression on a young player...good or bad.
As a thunder fan this has been a VERY fun season. We could lose in the first round of the playoffs and i'd still see this season as an absolute win.
Chris Paul helped SGA alot. His improvements started when he played with CP
A big step up even from last year
Wel, well, well... Ok. Great video, kudos, keep up with the great work, loved it and all. BUT! The truth is at end of the day, when all is said and done, they were freaking lucky getting SGA in that deal. All else is important, but it's very hard to win in the NBA. Very hard! And you win with great players. And SGA is an unique talent that even they never thought would be THIS good. He's the key for everything.
With a SOLID Squad like that, consisting of Talented and Athletic Youngsters, OKC is the NBA's Fan Favorite, Thundering Winning Success led by SGA and Chet.
OKC has a great front office. Sure wish the folks in Seattle could have experienced this.
It's great ,I really do believe OKC can win a championship very soon.Congratulations to the whole organization,they are doing a good job
Kawahi didn't join until the trade happened. That's what made the haul so historic for OKC. They leveraged LAC for basically 2 players (George and Leonard)
I wouldn’t call it the greatest rebuild until they win a playoff series or a ring. However, it does like they have a glorious and promising future ahead of them.
you'll get your wish this year! 😇
Sam Prestie GENIUS of Rebuild 💯
I thought this is a new channel lol, nice pfp andy
Sam Presti is an extremely capable general manager who has successfully acquired superstar players such as Kevin Durant, Russell West Brook and James Harden.
The Thunder are still strong because of Sam Presti.
However, it's a shame that Durant, Westbrook, and Harden weren't able to win championships with the Thunder in the 2010s.
Literally a perfect 2k rebuild.
Chet has always reminded me of how strong Abraham Lincoln was said to have been. He can’t necessarily get big and fat but that isn’t necessarily good for a NBA player to be anyway. Sam is an incredible GM. Great talent evaluator, but it goes beyond that. Harden requested Sam draft him as I recall. When it came time for that contract and Harden wanted just a bit more, it’s not that he couldn’t get it or deserve it, it’s that it went off code. He was being loyal to himself, not the team. He wouldn’t sacrifice now to reap the reward later, when the prospect of rewards now and rewards later seemed within reach, but only individually. Being able to parse out guys like that and keep the energy high even in trying times is what his quote really boils down too. A winning culture versus a culture you can win with. That’s really profound in terms of a basketball team and family. My feelings on that trade seem to change the more I learn about, not necessarily the results they achieved, but the manner in which they achieved them. There’s a quote from Gladiator that I believe sums it up nicely. What we do in life. Echos in eternity. It’s true. I’d love to see the clippers and thunder meet in the playoffs this year. It’d be cool if KD returned to the Thunder for his final year in the league and went out with another chip and OKC’s first if they don’t just win the thing this year. Oh what time to be alive. Not many people know this but when Shai was briefly a high schooler in Hamilton, he got cut from a team and my brother in law tried telling the coach he was making a mistake. However not long after that he probably hit a growth spurt of sorts and ended up heading to the US. The fact that same kid is the player they call SGA today is not a surprise if your familiar with how much something like that can push you to great heights. A la Mike Jordan. Funny we talk about luck being in the right place at the right time. SGA was drafted by Charlotte in 2018. Traded to LA. (Kobe!) OKC didn’t have a 1st rd pick that year. Next year they draft Brandon Clarke, trade him to Memphis. Get SGA 11th pick in last years draft. So he’s drafted 3 MVPs, lost one in free agency. Traded away 2 and possibly might be coming up on having been traded one back with the spoils to really take it to another level. That’s uncanny.
They can make a whole new team with these picks. A seattle team sure sounds nice!
i mean to be fair, look at what Sam Presti has managed to do with those first round draft picks, and they absolutely fleeced the Clippers at first
but it's happened so much through the years since the big trade
Do a video on the struggles of d’angelo russell since hes back on the trading block.
This is what you could achieve if you manage your assets right. I think they deserve this. Three future all stars , Russ, KD and Harden played together and got nothing but a finals appearance. Now, they have an MVP candidate and future all stars.
I really agree that the thunder are fun to watch❤
can't wait to see how they fuck it all up
After letting Russ and Paul George go, the Thunder were in a dark place. The young talent they’ve accumulated in SGA, Lu Dort, and a very talented young center in Chet Holmgren has this team looking toward a very bright future.
Now all I need is my Sooners to get it together and I’ll be satisfied. 🤞🏾🤞🏾
Fax
Can u make a story about oj mayo and what happened to his career pls
The coach of OKC looks like the basketball version of our Big Ange Postecoglou in my club that i've supported, Tottenham Hotspur FC.
I miss the OKC croed in playoff best crowd in postseason
Sam Presti is a massive genius
It's going to be interesting to see what happens with this team over the next few years. Are the Thunder going to package players and picks up to make a trade? WIll they let these young guys walk in free agency as they come off of their rookie deals and hope that they keep getting lucky with the draft? I don't think that they are going to open up the books and keep paying their players into the second tax apron. That would mean that they lose their first round picks, and this team isn't scrambling to trade any of those picks. That tells me that this team isn't going to spend that much.
JDub is so underrated
You could have gone back further to Ibaka"s expiring contract that they traded to Orlando for Sabonis and Oladipo. Of course they were traded for PG. So basically they got SGA and all those picks for an expiring contract.
lu dort a solid ass role player
I like data. So, I recently took a dataset that included every team in the league over every year available. For fun, I sorted by best records and average team age. There is a huge correlation between team age and team record - older team, better record. The exception to this trend: OKC. And they have done it with 2 different cores 10 years apart. If that isn't a sign of an incredible FO, nothing is.
We’ll see lol they had a fire line up for like 10 years now
Almost didn’t recognized the channel with the new logo.
Seattle/OKC drafted well with Durant Russ Harden Green. 3 MVPs 2 Champs and they flipped them for players like Paul George Chris Paul then flipped them for SGA and mad draft picks
Harden was drafted by OKC, but your point is made.
that clippers vs warriors series with shai,sweet lou,pat beverly, vs warriors line up with KD,steph,klay,and draymond, i thought that series is 0 - 4 in favor of warriors but i was wrong that clippers team force that series to game 6 and i knew shai is the future but im upset that they trade shai for Paul george if only clippers keep shai a duo of kawhi and shai is a very balance and scary
Sam presti also got big SABONER on draft night from magic
This isn't the first time they correctly rebuilt in such a staggering and impressive fashion, they need to keep their core no matter what or this will be all for nothing
Just to clarify: There are two players on the team with a similar name in Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams. To avoid any confusion to the latter, I went with Jay-Lin as in I separate Jay and Lin.
Just call him JDub
@@MrOctober44 I meant the other one that spells Jaylin. It's either Jay-Lin or JM because of his full name Jaylin Michael Williams.
@@AirRusher1992 gotcha. 👍
@@AirRusher1992It’s JDub and JWill
They had 3 MVP players before this and 0 rings. We’ll see.
😂😂
Lmaoo 😂
But they didn’t though.
… Harden was nowhere near his MVP form yet, and they were like 22.
That was 12 years ago buddy get over it !! Your boy Lebron lost 3 times in the finals since then 😂😂😂
Would like to see Miami Heat vs OKC in finals again.
There is a possibility if everything goes as planned that we might see the greatest dynastic run ever with a possible decade plus of domination. Now if they decide that they want to build from the draft instead of through trades and free agency we might actually see the thunder catapult to an alltime great franchise with sustained dominance
I always believed in the process
I still remember crying when Russ and PG gone, now I overjoy 😂
Are you going to do a pascal Siakam trade to Indiana video?
No title yet so hold your horses. We still dont know if Chet will play as second fiddle for years to come. For all we know this team might explode in three years time. Kudos to Sam Presti tho. Dude bounced back hard after that harden fumble. Im excited for this team. But I don’t want to expect.
I really hope they become the new warriors..a young team with a dynamic style of play with a more than competent front office.
I really don't hope they become like the durant westbook team.
Both outcomes seem possible at this time.
The Timberwolves literally had the best rebuild in history OKC always had great teams you can only name one good T'Wolves team
I hope they can trade Josh Giddey for some 3 & D guy because it's so odd when SGA and Giddey are playing together because both are primary good ball handlers.
He should run with the second squad when wallaca gets lip better he's gunna be the starting lineup
Westbrook and George for Shai 10 1st rounders 4 1st round swaps and 4 seconds. Sam Presti is a genius
bro dont tell people to start hoping on the thunder bandwagon now that we on top with the best future !! we stand on loyalty over here that lowkey hurts 😢💀
There is a difference in "This GM drafted 3 MVP-level players" vs. "This GM drafted 3 guys that literally were MVPs during a ~5 year span"
Presti is not perfect. But given that he is operating from Oklahoma, is ~35Y old and mostly under-the-cap budget - he could get a statue.
Some fun fact: Sam Presti managed to get into the game of pulling Carmelo from NYC to Oklahoma :-D
Crazy how presti turned paul george into the best guard in all of basketball and jdub plus 4 1st round picks
I can see them making it to the WCF if the cards play right.
@andyhoops I won't allow you to do that to my celtics cmon really? 5 ecf appearances plus 1 finals trip what has the thunder done besides hit on draft picks? we been in wars
Another issue with having so much talent is that they’re gonna want to get paid eventually. Even with that issue, the Thunder are set up to dominate the rest of this decade.
Gotta be like the Heat and pay the ones for the long term and do sign and trades if they’re not in line for the future.
All of this for paul george is hilarious to look back😂
"You're not trading for just Paul George. You're trading for both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George."- Doc Rivers convincing Steve Ballmer to make the trade.
Still funny that Andy Hoops changed his pic
I love what the Thunders are in the process of doing, but they haven’t done anything yet, so no way they are the greatest rebuild ever
All these good drafts but still zero ring so I dont know where all the praise is coming from.
I'm glad for Presti. IMO, the only thing they needed to win back in the early 10's was more time playing together and a better role for Russ. Until this day i dont understand why they let Russ became a pg, Harden was the one who needed to be the starting pg (he was already a good passer and have a better basketball IQ than Russ since day one). Russ eventually became a good passer and pg, but i truly believe he had the chance to become a competent 3&D sg in less time than that. At least todays OKC the young fellas know their role, and they work as a unit, that's something you can't teach easily.
I think it was more role player issues. As someone who followed the Thunder all of those years. The center position was an issue until Steven Adams. And the sg position was an issue by then(after harden trade). Just struggled to fill some important 2 way role player slots around their stars. Always had great defenders but often questionable offensive abilities.
None of this matters if they don’t win a championship. He’s been the GM for 17 years and not a single title??
Giddey is the odd man out here if they want to move the needle.
I remember a lot of people saying Giddey was a kind of point god of the future up until last year haha.
Nobody really passes like him on the team besides micic. 6’9 pg is crazy. Unless we get a massive trade he won’t go anywhere.
@@Epupify He was forced to have his role changed, if he gets on a team that can allow him to play his natural point guard role he will be a fringe allstar type player.
@@thesecretwombat056 I know that my comment seems condescending, but I actually do believe he's a special talent from the little i've seen and read about him. I suppouse what seems funny to me is how people change their opinion of players from one moment to the other because of things unrelated to their game.
@@Epupify I definitely agree with that
If they do this right okc is setup to be dominant in 3-5
How do we move this team back to seattle
Sam Presti filling the empty spaces in the wall. Thunder are coming.
Shai is becoming a inspirational player, more guards are gonna wanna pride defense more into their game