The Most Interesting Offense in the NBA
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- Not much was expected from the Oklahoma City Thunder coming into the 2022-2023 season. But now that we are well past the half way point of the season, it is no secret that the youngest team in the NBA means business.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Josh Giddey, Lu Dort, Jalen Williams, and many others from the Thunder are showcasing what it means to be a true team player in the art of ball movement and offensive communication.
In this video essay, we break down the Oklahoma City Thunder's offensive play style and how the team, arranged by Sam Presti, plans to grow together in one of the most interesting playstyles in all of basketball.
0:00 The Thunder's Offensive Rating
0:47 Sam Presti Last Year
1:27 The Identity of The Thunder
1:44 Oklahoma City Thunder vs Dallas Mavericks
2:48 The Offensive Style of The Thunder
3:47 A Closer Look on The Thunder
4:51 Josh Giddey to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
5:15 Josh Giddey to Jalen Williams
5:29 The Final Element to The Thunder's Offense
6:28 The SGA Factor
7:44 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Josh Giddey
7:57 The Oklahoma City Thunder in January
8:51 Upswing for The Thunder
9:22 The Blueprint for the Most Interesting Offense in The NBA - Sport
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Every time you think of how good the Thunder are both offensively and defensively remember they have no big. If Chet is half as good as we think next year will be crazy
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And as Sam has pointed out referring to Shai, an NBA player ENTERS his real maturity as 24 years, meaning of course only Shai, KRich who is 28, and Dario now who is 28. Josh is 20, Poku 21, JDeb 21, JWill 20, Tre 22, JRE 23, Ous still 19 and Chet 20. On the average that translates to 3 or 4 years.
@@charlescohen6140 2026 champs🤣
@@Darealmenxce *2024 fasho. Chet better than people think
@@SurburbanDude no 2026. By that time, Josh game will be severely polished, Dort offensive game will be on point and he might even try to make a name for DPOY, ppl are gonna try to figure out shai but he’s gonna add more to his game and CheT will be 3 years into nba and I think he will have some mistakes or know what he can work on after his rookie season then it’s endgame after that. J dub will be solid and Poku will be and honorable mention
I’m a sixers fan but honestly I feel like the type of bball that the thunder play can lead to more overall success with the right players, having sga being a willing star to mold into this offense is amazing for such a young and promising roster
It’s great that we have someone as talented as Shai Gilgeous-Alexander as well who leads the helm of this Thunder styled offense
He is such a unicorn in all aspects being able to drive as frequent as he does while also not really turning the ball over that much. That’s the perfect guy to lead this styled offense
Excellent video and informative analysis. Big fan of your narrative structure as well. easiest ‘like and subscribe’ of 2023 for me
Thanks! Appreciate it!
100% agreed
Awesome video mate. It is crazy to think this is the youngest team in NBA history (well, 2nd to last years team). Every single player looks like they are committed to uplifting the team rather than the individual. My guess is that has something to do with the ammount of international talent they possesses. They are giving off strong San Antonio vibes. Of course, they have a long way to go to reach those lofty heights.
Since they traded Muscala they´ve become younger than last years team, so they are the youngest team in NBA history right now
I’d say it is a San Antonio/ golden state like pass first offense. But with the thunder you crank up the speed to 99. With that it’s surprising that they have such turnover marks
Isn’t the current rockets team younger ?
@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope doubt it, shai is their oldest player at 24
@Sam Kneen Dario and Kenrich but yeah
OMG, is Royce Young's channel, love your work long time ago❤.
What's mind-blowing is they're the youngest team in the NBA some college rosters are older than the thunder roster and they have a crazy amount of draft picks that it's insane and some of the so called experts are saying that they need to trade some for some big name free agent that's not going to happen they don't need some disgruntled superstar that doesn't want to be in OKC give the thunder a season or two and they will be hard to beat
That day is long gone, jd. We’re looking at a top 5 finish in the west this year with 50+ wins and at worst a #6 or 7 finish to squeeze into that 2 and 3 matchup in the playoffs. But always keeping a keen eye of where Denver is and their high altitude court
@@Crapsshooter711 we'll see I'm just hoping holmgren can stay healthy
Only found your channel today and just gotta say you're making some fantastic stuff - keep it up dude!!
Tremendous video. great work
Your delivery is smooth. Very easy to listen to. Pretty much to the point.
I just found your channel. I about to binge on what you have and I’ll be looking forward to future videos.
Thanks! Appreciate it!
first time watching this channel. amazed. GREAT TOP TIER CONTENT! All the video, audio, subtle background music, use of stats and data. I cannot believe this account has 3k followers. I would think it would be closer to 250k. Keep it up!!!
Its Royce Young, he was an ESPN reporter in charge of Thunder content in the time of Russ, KD and Harden. This isnt your average Joe LOL.
This is incredibly well researched video. Love it
Great stuff Royce!! I knew I recognized this voice. Keep it coming!
Love your videos man. Keep them coming please 🙏
New to your channel. Your content is super engaging and fun. Thanks!
This was probably one of the most insightful NBA dives I've seen on CZcams.
not even a thunder fan and subscribed, awesome vid dude
Outstanding breakthrough
Great vid, love this team
Fantastic video
Great video man!! You’re really cooking🔥🔥🔥🔥 #thunderUp
Ay, this is good content brodie. Keep it up.
I see nothing but improvements from this team every time I watch them. Their ability to mold each other into better players is amazing. It’s because they actually play like a TEAM and their is no superstar drama like a lot of other NBA teams have. I can’t wait to see what next year looks like with Chet! #ThunderUp
Subbed bro. Sweet video.
Great vid
This team is more versatile offensively. Earlier teams consisted of a couple stars and athletic guys. Not a lot of spacing.
nice vid!
Great video
Bravo for video🤝👏🤝
Subscribed purely because of how great that George clip was 🔥🔥🔥
Great video!!! tried to do sth similar to try to demonstrate the beauty of thunder brand basketball right now but never can express that clear and fun like what Royce did!!!
Hope more people can saw this and appreciate the uniqueness of okc basketball compare to other team in the league right now.
Incredible video
Awesome presentation. Very interesting view points regarding growth as a team
I had no idea. Great content.
Hey Royce, I was the fan that spotted you walking by at the pelicans game! I wish you the best and continue doing what you’re doing!
Ha, appreciate it! And thanks for saying what’s up! Nice to meet you.
best thunder page by far 🔥
Giddeys IQ is scary!!
I thought Riro Balls was the best Thunder content guy then I saw this video and realized you're a Thunder fan too. Now I like your channel as much as Riro Balls. Thunder up ⛈⚡
Finally, an intelligent observation on what’s happening in the NBA that has a positive impact on performance. Would you be available to coach the Blazers, please!?
Hi @thunderxp. I would appreciate it if you could tell me the name of the song/background music title from the 3:49 mark of the video. I tried to find the library of Dayfox from Spotify but it doesn't give me that beat. By the way, the content and breakdown you did were awesome. I never knew that the thunders will be something in the next coming seasons.
Damn that crazy I forgot about Chet this team is dangerous
How do you have only 4000 subscribers. This video is top notch. I really hope you will have a great success with your channel because your analysis is on point, and you deserve recognition for all the work you had to do to make this video.
Said that, me too I love OKC, and I see the same evolution that teams like Cavs and Kings had in the last couple of years. I really hope also Holmgren will come back strong, and will fit well to this team. I really like those teams that put teamwork over everything. And OKC is going strong into this direction. Then having some player like Gilgeous-Alexander, Giddey etc. surely helps. But the philosophy behind their playing is now settled. I also think that between all the superstars Shai is the perfect fit for this philosophy.
As an italian I really enjoy NBA in an healthy way. I don't root for anyone. I just pick some random teams to root for that I like to see play. 2 years ago the Cavs, this year the Kings. Next year I really hope to root for the Thunder. (yes I like more the underdogs lol)
Whoa this is great! nicely done!
Also - what if dieng turns out to be nice? holy shiiet we gon be good
they have gone back to the basics. pure fundamental basketball.
thats the thing with basketball versus lets say football. football you get to the nfl and everybody is just as good, it literaly boils back down to who does the same thing better. basketball however, nba seems to cater more towards isolation. been this way for years. reason why college is more popular. so to see a nba team play this way. man its nice.
I have been thinking of betting the over on Thunder win total for next season when the lines come out.
Great work man thunder up
We would love another breakdown of offense and defense for the thunder the are the most interesting team I've seen have a big three now and dynamic has changed and the future of okc has changed
Presti is a straight up genius..
Fantastic video best explanation of what they are doing, and if you understand this you know why they are probably never going to trade for a star.
and they have so many picks going forward. the thunder are going to be championship contenders next year, and for the next decade
dope video. your voice really reminds me of this smash brothers melee commentator called toph. it's lowkey uncanny 😂 anyway good content
Yo, does anyone know what the background music is?
It’s no surprise. We already know Presti knows how to build thru the draft
0:25 oh russell!
Reminds me a lil of the spurs team where every moment impacted the game for a easier shot
This is a fantastic breakdown and puts together so many of the observations I have been having about the Thunder offense this season. That movement and passing is so fun to watch, and is made possible by the fact that we play five out with a skilled big all the time (not even Chet yet). That alone creates space for people to operate, and I wonder if it really opens the door for the Thunder to take ANOTHER really good decision-maker (passer and cutter) like Anthony Black or Ausar Thompson even if that player is currently a non-shooter. Most people think what we need is 3p shooting above all else, but I kind of want to see what this offense looks like with one more long, athletic decision-maker.
Can you talk about how something so simple as being FORCED by injury to not play defensive black hole Poku changed the thunder's season
I love me some SHIDDEY
Hey Thunderxp! Would love to collab on some content with ya! Let me know if you would be interested 🙏🏼
I think we can at least see some of the basic constant ball movement archetype that was present with the 2014 spurs (beautiful basketball) and the 2015-16 warriors. The thunder are younger and more athletic than that spurs team so with some experience and a solid big who can commit, they can make a couple deep runs before dudes start getting better contract offers from other teams.
The Knicks have started to do this as well. The future is this. It’s almost college like
I've become so tired of the way my team (not the Thunder) and the NBA are trending that I don't think I've watched a complete game this season. I think Durant leaving the Thunder for the Warriors after taking them to a Game 7 was one of the first nails in the coffin. This video, however, makes me want to start paying attention again. Well done.
Of course you WANT to play like this. It's great to have good decision makers. It's also great to have great players who don't needs plays run for them and can get thier own shot. KD, Luka, Kyrie et al. This style of play works for this team . Doesn't mean it applies equally every where. And when things slow down in the playoffs and teams are preparing for you and only you it gets harder to implement this. The last team that made this work was probably 2012 Spurs and they had the great Tim Duncan. Before that the last team with no real super star was the 05 Pistons. That's almost 20 years ago. In the words of the great John Wooden if you want to win. Make sure you have better players than everyone else.
they will soon, shai will continue to develop into a superstar, Giddey should develop into at least a top 10 in the league pg, with no more serious injuries chet should become a solid piece, dort is great, better off the bench though IMO, jdub is proving to fit in nicely
They have SGA who is literally a top 5 shot creator in the NBA. He's as good as Dame and better than Kyrie. The guy isn't even running with elite spacing or a competent big and teams can't stop him without fouling
@@jamiedevine he already is a superstar...
The bulls with the triangle offense couldn't be stopped..plus they had Jordan and Pippen who can both pass and score.
Okc has Shai and Jay Dubs who can also both pass and shoot.
@@dxfifa not a better shot creater then Kyrie u tripping lol definitely after him though
They should try to get Wembie
I just watched them live last week at the Rocket game of 153. K Williams had two points and 7 assists from pf position It's is very instinctal but it reminds me of speed of An old motion offence firm 70s.
yeah giddey is awesome
Sam Presti has got to be the most legit GM in the NBA
OKC management team is the mad scientist of the NBA. I mean this in a good way. But, also, OKC has been a lottery team for a while. I am concerned that their chemistry is driven primarily by SGA and he might demand a trade if he feels OKC isn't ready to make a playoff push very soon. If next year Chet comes back but the team isn't winning, he might demand a trade. OKC is a tiny market and his value is diminished there, especially when they are not winning. Had he played for NY or LA, he would be an all-star for a few years (regardless of their record) and would get far more recognition and exposure. It's a curse of small-market teams and OKC is as small as they get. The window of opportunity to build a playoff team probably ends next year.
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They only had two seasons missing the playoffs so this lottery for a long time is false.
@@dre2405 no, it's not when you talk about SGA missing playoffs in his prime and likely to miss it for a 3rd time this season
I say he playing for like another 4 seasons of competing at the highest level with okc
@@nas5017 why wouldn't he demand a trade unless OKC starts making playoff runs? If he were on the Knicks, he would be considered a superstar and has a profile bigger than Ja or Trae or Mitchell. But, he is an afterthough in OKC. Only this year, when he averages like 30+ points, is he getting some recognition.
its like a more mobile triangle
Thunder look good for thier age. Especially them arkansas boy's they got now. Was. #newthunderfan
Giddey is a supremely talented floor general with extremely high BBIQ, and we haven't even seen what he'd look like with legit NBA spacing and a big man who can threaten big time in the PnR game and set screens.
He's always playing with non great spacing or a lineup where he is the best scorer on offense.
Shai refuses to shoot. Dort and JDub are both inconsistent. The bigs have shown glimpses but none of them (after muscala left) are genuinely going to knock down a high clip with contested 3s with a quick release and eagerness.
Poku has a chance to be that but his screening is disgracefully bad and he's unplayably bad on defense at the 5, that being the main lineups OKC got mauled on early in the season. Poku at the 5 is just horrible right now for winning games
Disagree on best scorer, unless you are saying non great spacing comes from SGA-Giddey lineups, where the blame at least partially lies on my boy Giddey.
I love his game, but you can't complain your teammates lack shooting when you also lack it yourself at point guard. It would be like Simmons complaining about floor spacing whilst playing PG.
How is it shocking that the okc outscored their old team? Scoring has gone up since the
I think the bigger marker of how bonkers scoring is this season is that the Tom Thibodeau led ny knicks are a top 10 offense. Wtf.
5 guys working together the future? It’s the past too.
Trust the process..
Honestly nothing here is revolutionary. It's what every team strives for. There's nothing you can really teach here unless you have a team that gels together well. That's all this is.
That’s all, yet nobody can do it
Yeah, you’ll be writing for the Ringer in no time
There
one of the few underdogs of the west
West looking like this... Top tiers,
underdogs, an Cinderella's,
Worriors,Nuggets, Sun's are top tier
at full strength
Thunders, King's, Clippers underdogs
Pelicans, Blazers, Lakers, and Jazz
are
The Cinderella's
What happens upon injury of one player? Is the decline in performance of the team disproportionate to the league?
0:12 He's got to drop down to 65s or lower.
NBA hasn't seen a defense since about 2002
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Maybe if they were playing defense in the NBA, there wouldn’t be such an offenses evolution
Why does daignault speak positively about players being predictable then? Poku as an example
Poku is a project player and before his unpredictability wasn't in good rhythm. It was weird shots and turnovers but this year he played more predictable in his role, he has been out so hasn't played with the team playing this well
@@chronics3710 he said the same thing about Isaiah Joe too tho
If this team can get consistent shots falling every night, no one in the league could beat them.
... Giddey
OKC without Giddey long term wont last. People are affraid to say Giddey is one of the greatest rookie passers of all time in their first two years. Stats dont lie.
i’d say it helps when you have a MVP type player on your team 😂
But he wasn’t when he came here, the thunder make mvp like players
Are you Royce Young?
Oklahome 4th best offense this season in my opinion
Sacramento is definitely the best and Boston Celtics the 2nd
Very interesting way to think, everything is a game of decisions, make the right decisions at the right time and you'll win most games.
A team full of good decision makers with decent enough ability to execute those decisions will more than likely beat a team full of skilful players with poor decision making skills
Thunder made steven adams, steven made grizzlies, its unselfish no glory, just fundamental fast fun basketball
This reminds me of when thunder had durant and westbrook ... then got nothing out of it.
They're rebuilding so how you comparing failures("then got nothing out of it")
@@itsfootballnotsoccer732 I mean they had a stacked roster back then with durant and westbrook (Like Chet and alexander) but never won the chip.
@@systemloading45 back then the thunders did not have a bench n had a ball hog inefficient Westbrook taking shots away from Durant.
Now that will have everything better compared to before...good shooters in the lineup n bench n great defense.
So basically a contemporary Spurs?
I wish the Mavs would do more of this. We kind of do when Irving has the ball, but with Luka everything stalls.
Once they get chet and whoever this yrs draft watch out next yr
😂 looks just like the old motion offense that everyone ran in the 70’s and 80’s
Yooo defenses suck now because the rules put a stop to good defense
I’m sorry as I forget to give you props for going under the hood as few do.
We’re really not good enough, we need to add at least 1 SUPERSTAR player
No, no we don't. Look at the Lakers/OKC game - the Lakers were working so hard to get LeBron his record that they ended up losing the game. It's the difference between selfish and unselfish play.
@@markyore86 yup, they just need to continue to grow together and pay thier young star players and this run will be better then the last one they had with KD and company.