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WT - How to fly the Yak-3 in Arcade
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2016
- This plane with a reputation of being an OP UFO, yet it flies differently to earlier Yaks & it can be surprisingly difficult to run up large kill streaks. In this guide I look at the unique strengths & weaknesses of the Yak-3 and demonstrate tactics to help you get the most out of the plane in Arcade battles.
The music is by Ciro Manna - • Ciro Manna - Drivin' O...
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Loved the video! Especially the part when I crashed into the ground. LOL...that will teach me not to fly when I'm drunk.
Thank you for making these videos. I still have a lot to learn and improve on.
+Delta Seven I too have a lot to learn - it never stops :) Thanks for your cameo role, it was certainly entertaining! And you did keep me on my toes in that battle, looking in the sky every 10 seconds.
Still watching these videos after all these years. I hope you are doing well, and know that these videos are still valuable to WT players, today :)
Since I discovered its speed I've been very fond of this plane. I think at 4.0 this is one of the best all-rounders, and a true joy to fly overall. It's especially good as a "training shoe" for practicing various skills, such as aiming, smooth maneuvering and evasive/force overshoot. The vertical maneuverability below 4k altitude is superb, so you can actually do some amazing stuff against someone trying to suppress you with a good climber. It's also hilarious to bait a bunch of planes into engaging you in a climbing spiral and watch all of them slow down and fall away while you get behind them with consistent turning.
Nice showcase of this plane Long5hot, a worthy addition to your channel, with a lovely pancake to finish it off ;)
Thanks Long5hot for yet another excellent tutorial. Also, thanks Delta for demonstrating the dangers of drink flying ;)
LOL, that last comment from Delta.
Excellent showcase video of this Yak variant.
Man I wish you still made videos of the Yaks with the new patch
Still hoping to see new content from you Long5hot :-)
Damn Long5hot, you went HAM with that Yak 3. Loved it.
Nice, I have always liked this plane, but the armament holds it back, as you pointed out. I got the premium yak3 on a 24 hour test drive, Its is BRILLIANT. You will enjoy it.
StickyNoob here, it would be a pleasure some day to get my pixel aircraft teared to pieces by yours! great vids!
+long5hot , thanks for the vid.
I'm primarily an arcade player, but I've played few realistic battles after your RB how get started tips videos... I would like to see few more RB videos as that will help me improve.
thanks.
+MUZAMMILdesign mate, tried RB a few times I get rekt'ed everytime, this is coming from a guy after longshot's videos is now stacking up 8-15 kills everygame. I got discouraged from getting into it (since now I dont get much time to play cause of work) So tell me, how you finding RB in regards with Arcade gamemodes in terms of fun and excitement! :O
Corypheus Well, I wouldn't say RB is discouraging but it is slower paced. I play Arcade always, except for those 10-12 Realistic Battle.
I kinda like the feel of RB, there is lesser crowd, more room for duel fights, you need to keep in mind the ammo count, the compression lock ups ( I crashed twice because I didn't know compression had such a huge impact :p), and at times finding that last remaining guy is very annoying. Also, you end up getting only 1-3 kills.
I like the US as their 50 cals have a lot of ammo. Russian didn't go well for me, can't get the aim right. Germans - I tried the BF110 and loved it, didn't try british, Japan was fun too ...
But, I'm not good in realistic as I'm in Arcade. Arcade gives you the adrenaline rush, and is the way to go for earning RP and spading an aircraft.
I find RB to be fun, but again I feel there is learning curve in terms of knowledge and habits to get better in RB matches.
MUZAMMILdesign the learning curve in RB isn't so bad... you just need to play it and don't expect your scores to be the same as in arcade...I think RB makes way more fun than arcade. I'm actually sad that I started so late to Play RB....I mean i get 3k-4k XP every game
Good flying Sir! One of my favourites, the Yak-3. 1300 bhp, very well streamlined and just 2100 kg, no wonder it performs well:-) Armament sufficient. Yak 3 and AirDom= happiness.
The bf 109 F4 needs a good pilot to be better, the Spit 2b even more so.
In my experience the Yaks *used* to burn for days or put themselves out, but a few updates ago something changed. It was around the same time that I noticed the game seemed to get a bit more burn-y in general, with more fires showing up across the board and more burn-downs occurring. It definitely seems to me that the Yaks are pretty susceptible to catching alight now, although my feeling is that they're a bit more likely to extinguish than some other comparable planes. So far I think the worst planes for burning, again, completely anecdotal here, are the Cobras and the Corsairs.
Very good chance, I'd say, that Delta knew who you were and was determined to keep you from taking altitude by any means necessary. I'd probably do the same thing if I ran into you in a match, knowing how my skillset compares to yours.
It does show, however, that it is possible to be too high in a battle. He spent the entire time up in orbit following you around rather than using the strengths of his aircraft to help win the match, which, while not a mistake as common as lawn-mowing in a high-altitude fighter, I see often enough that I feel it's worth mentioning... I've done it myself more than I care to admit. Climbing up to 8,000m is only useful if the enemy is at 6,000. If they're all under 2k, well, you're going to get some very pretty screenshots up there, but not much else.
I'm a Jug driver: I'll HAPPILY climb into space if you give me a reason. But there's a line between playing smart and playing too passive that I think becomes blurred easily in the face of the I-want-to-win-Hokkaido-occasionally "climb like your life depends on it (because it does)" train of thought.
How to correctly assess the altitude you need to be at for any given situation might be worthy of a video itself (and I don't recall seeing such from any of the CZcamsrs I follow) as a sort of intermediate-level tactics lesson that falls after basic ACM on the learning curve but probably somewhere before more nuanced energy management discussion. Food for thought.
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On the ACTUAL subject of the video: I agree it's that astounding energy retention in flat turns that's probably responsible for the Yak-3's reputation, though I have to beg to differ about Yaks and fires; yes, the La-5s are much worse about this, but Yaks are among the planes that I'll follow down and finish off after I've set them on fire, as I've learned the hard way that they do put out fires often. MiGs, LaGGs, and Ishaks don't seem to be any better or worse than most aircraft, by comparison.
My personal fire "record"--in RB, no less--is actually against a Yak-3 VK-107. I had to set him on fire 4(!) times before he went down.... to a pilot snipe. The fire actually went out again before he hit the ground. Maybe suffering through spading the new P-38s has just left me raw, but I strongly suspect the Yak damage models are a little... uh, generous.
Hm. My local flight museum has a Yak-9UT. I wonder what a can of M20 API-T costs these days... (Edit: apparently about $300 US).
Great video as always! I really like the comparison to similar aircraft in the testing at the beginning :)
Maybe you could do a video once where you compare the most popular planes this way. At least i would be very interested in that.
+Schmelchior Just with test flights you mean? Interesting idea. The main problem would be fitting them all on screen @ once ;)
+long5hot I know. I left that part for you to figure out ;) Yes, I meant it as a pure flight performance comparison video. Maybe group up different planes with similar BR.
I would want to watch the video if I take out a certain fighter and be able to check the most dangerous opponents and how you can outperform them.
Not saying this is easy since you can meet so many different planes, but maybe you can come up with something.
good vid, i never really enjoyed the yak-3, but the premium yak-3 is a really good plane with i'ts climb rate and speed, coupled with decent armament.
but as sfor the standard yak-3, i'd rather have a yak-9t or a Lavochkin of the same br
+harald s Yep so would I - give me the dakka :)
I've actually just bought the premium Yak-3 in the half price sales. Haven't flown it yet, will be interesting to see what its like.
+long5hot it took me some getting used to, but after a while I begun to love it.
that said, it's no j7w1.
+harald s I love that j7w1. Often after a stock survival guide I'll put the plane aside and move on, but I continue to fly the j7w1 when I can as I'd really like to spade it up.
+long5hot well, it really shines when spaded with the new fm, it's always useful to prop up your climb rate with a BnZ plane.
I'm pretty iffy on the Yaks in this game. The early Yaks (such as the Yak 1 in particular) are effective clubbing machines, but otherwise, I just seem to have trouble shooting down enemies in these planes. Probably due to the fairly weak armament (as you rightfully point out) but sometimes I'm not so sure, because I often find that even a single Shvak cannon can bring down a plane with a few well-placed hits. I find that landing those hits on target are the most difficult part of using them. No one ever talks about the Russian 20mm as having slow muzzle velocity, but I find that I have to lead the marker more-so than any other weapon save the Japanese 20's if I want to score any real hits, which can make attacking at certain oblique angles a guessing game sometimes.
That can't be the only reason though. The Yaks can be very powerful machines, but I just find I'm no good in them, and have much more success in the La-7 and the I-185 at a similar battle rating than I do in any of the Yaks. Still, brilliant video, and I didn't realize how much the Yak held it's energy. With that knowledge I might give it another try soon.
I was always under the impression that when an Oil Leak 'goes out' so to speak, it's not because it was sealed, but because the plane had simply run out of oil. You must've put a massive hole in his oil tank.
Also have to admit that the 'shallow climb' around 10:20 didn't exactly look so shallow to me, but maybe the camera angles were screwing with my perception. Generally though, I see any climb at over 30-45 degrees as being fairly sharp.
+Breakfast By contrast, I find Lavochkins and I-185s more difficult to get kills with than Yaks - must just be an individual thing ;)
If I'd blown a massive hole in his oil tank & drained it empty, it sure didn't stop him zooming around at 5000m for the rest of the 10 minute-long battle shadowing my every move ;)
And that climb at 10:20 was probably a little steep, though it was closer to 30 degrees than 45. My speed had dropped to 260km/h before I looked to hammerhead, and 260 is under the ideal 280km/h climbing speed so yes I was going up probably sharper than I intended.
long5hot Heh, well, I don't think losing your oil slows you down at all in Arcade unless your engine has ALSO taken damage. Temperature (which the oil helps regulate) doesn't seem to have much of an effect in arcade battles.
+Breakfast That's the thing - losing your oil or coolant USED to make your temperature skyrocket and then your engine would die, Arcade or not. I can understand if normal overheating does nothing in Arcade, but when there's critical damage there should be consequences.
you deserve more views you remind me of XboxAhoy very concise and eloquent speaker
thanks!
A few patches ago the YAK-1 was pretty fireproof; at least in RB. I don't know if it's changed from then though.
hey :)
you got some really good and helpful videos ! dont saw your cannel before :/ strange...
I wanted to thank you for the small stage you gave me in your cannel,so thanks.
keep those videos coming im gonna watch and learn from them.
have a great day,daniel.
+yolo_GUK1 PR From what I saw of your flying when we squadded up with flip a couple of weeks ago I doubt there's much you need to learn off my videos - but I'm glad you enjoy them :) Hope to fly with you again someday.
+long5hot
ofcoures,im gonna add you to my friends list.if you see me online you can right me and we can fly some more :))
Prior to patch 1.55, the high speed turns this plane can pull would have left your screen blacked out most of the time. And immediately after 1.55 you'd be in real danger of G-LOC. Now of course neither happens, not in Arcade anyway...
Great videos +long5hot could you do a review from playing on a PS4 pad as i play this game on ps4. thanks
I have a feeling that either you were extremely unlucky regarding fires in the yak 3 or the yak 3 is much less resistant to fire than the yak 1s 7 and 9s for whatever reason. Maybe some tests are in order? You could compare the early war M2 .50 cal belts to the Apit flamethrower belts, start 15 or so fires on every yak and compare. Probably too much work though :)
+Elemental Hmm ... I could go into a mission editor battle against Yaks, flying something American I guess.
+Elemental
Could be bad luck but Long5hot's and my experiences are smiilar - and I think Tx141 said the same in his review on the Yak-3..
Good evening M. Longshot,
Could you provide a video that includes the keyboard actions that you use to execute these manoeuvres ? I try my best to apply your procedures but have difficulties replicating them or any semblance of them. I am successful with many of the basic or more developed tricks but lack the finesse . Perhaps an instructor (video), much as with flight, sail or driving exams, of the exact performances and their duration / sequence could help guide me to your level.
Thank you in advance,
Watch your six
Kv.
Rutur (from Iceland)
Good Sir,
I do not wish to be unnecessarily vague, I am aware of your control setup video and have taken that into account (the bulk of my kills directly as a result of your methods) but rather meant a recording or display of your own implementation of those controls, key by key. I would like to see a 'musical sheet' to clarify and to help me practise.
Again, grand merci.
Godspeed.
Kv.
R.
Hah he wrote that he was to drunk to be flying XD. I only see that now.
2:50 The thing is that it retains these characteristics in RB. You can pull 90 degree turns at 500kph and lose very little if any speed in the turn. It's absurd.
8:00 Ground targets ammo belts for the 20mm cannon are pretty lethal.
11:15 Yeah, this is the sort of thing that pisses Fw190 pilots off in RB. You dive on a Yak-3 from one or more km above their position, and if you fail to kill them, they somehow whip their plane around even if they were going in the opposite direction and catch you in your zoom. At least, this is how it was a couple patches ago.
17:50 Gotta practice using that period key, yo
Ooh, La-9 stock syndrom vid? Sounds good!
Can you do a video about the P/F-82? Because I think its a quiet difficult to fly this plane. It has a great topspeed and good armament, but its not very manoeuvrable expecially in a bnz attack.
+LastNightdragon Yes I definitely plan to, though it might be a little while before I get to it.
I think the Yak-3 is a realistic battle fighter more than an arcade
You are simply amazing..
Love your vids long shot I've just started playing war thunder and you tutorials give good advice. keep up the good work. P's how do you keep such a cool head.
+mrnatty122 Its not hard to stay cool - if something bad happens, I turn any feelings of anger towards working out whatever I did wrong that led to my demise, as there's nearly always something I can improve on. That way I don't stay angry for long, and it helps me improve & avoid making the same mistakes in the future.
+mrnatty122 I also tend to talk to myself as the battle unfolds with a kind of running commentary. "that Yak's climbing toward the Welly, he'll either be blind to my approach and he'll see me, in which case he'll either turn right to evade or try for a headon. Ok, I'm now too close so head-on's off the table. He's dodging right, I expected that so roll to the right and there's my shot ... " etc.
those silly 190 ab pilots. well, at least this one didnt try to turnfight you, though im not sure if that wasnt the next move as the ground got in the way. im just wondering where he got that brilliant 190 skin for his lagg ;)
Why The 800m convenance i tought it doesnt matter on nose mounted guns ? Nice vid btw
+Marco Lammen Well, if you have just a single gun then it doesn't matter - and I guess in Arcade its the cannon that counts the most anyway with this plane. But lets imagine a plane with two side-by-side nose cannon like an La-5. If you set convergence to 300m, that's where the shell streams will meet. At 600m they'll diverge to the same distance as they're mounted on the plane, with a bit extra allowing for shot scattering. By 900m they'll be twice the width they are on the plane, which along with scattering means there's next to no chance of the shells both hitting a target.
If your convergence is maxed at 800m, then at long range there's a much greater chance of the shells from both cannons still arriving in close proximity to where you're aiming, and you don't lose anything at all for closer range accuracy.
+long5hot thanks for the very clear answer,
Very good video, but I have to disagree about yaks putting out fires, I have experience putting out fire 3 times in a single plane and it wasnt only 1 or 2 times lol (or maybe too much luck or patch 1.51) but I had to shut down the engine. Btw with yaks I had a lot of problems with getting my engine damaged but now that happen with almost every plane. Now Im looking forward you next video cuz to me La-9 is a plane that I really enjoy to fly even when it was stock :D
+Merem I've never had that experience - fire has always killed my Yaks (not that I get hit that often so, you know, small sample size) and I don't see Yaks I shoot at putting them out very often. But yes these things do tend to change from patch to patch. In a few months this whole video will doubtless be out of date ;)
+long5hot Oh, I forgot to ask: Is that big the difference in damage between steatlh and ground target belts? because I have the premium yak 3 and it has the same problem in firepower at that br e.e
+Merem Depends on the cannon. Does the premium one have ShVaks or somethign else?
is another cannon B-20m and B-20S, it's faster but like russian planes they dont have too much ammunition so I try to not use stealth because I need to aim
+Merem I haven't actually flown many planes armed with the Berezin cannon yet - not even the Yak 3P. Too much time spent on other nations, so I've got some catching up to do :)
Loving these new comparisons during the flight tests :) great to be able to actually have something to compare with. And heck that slight humor at the end XD
Speaking of Fw190 I dont think i found an A-1 skin but I havent searched deep enough. But my my jackpot for sexy german skins :3
always good vid longshot:) I just hope to know that vertical zero is good or not.. It is pretty suitable but seems that depends on country :( Plz let me know your opinion
hows about the F7F? I think its AB battle rating is way too high, but took it for a spin in a downtiered line up and did suprisingly well.
+CHRIS Williams I own it & haven't flown it. Will get to it at some point.
Cool beans, just figured I'd toss it out there
+CHRIS Williams Yep its an excellent suggestion - I expect a lot of players look at its BR and choose to never fly it.
He lawn darted bad lolol
longshot you do a YAK9K or tell me wht video I should watch and use that tactic on the YAK9K
+김홍석 I haven't created a vid yet for that plane, nor have I flown it a great deal I'm afraid.
+long5hot ok.I some how unlocked the P51 before I started using the p38.Sooo...Should I just ignore the p38?
Hi Dad. Hope you're enjoying flying planes. (:
+Elizabeth Sumner Yeah its fun, you should try it sometime :)
+long5hot Maybe not. ..
long5hot can u do a quick short video on your key binds?
+HammyPiglet Its funny, someone else just asked that. To save repeating myself, look for ahmad's comments on this vid ;)
+long5hot ah thanks, didnt even notice that
+long5hot In relation to your first opening statements about the Yak-3's status in War Thunder, I believe most of those are mainly from Realistic and Simulator modes, which is where said statements are correct, it does have a rather suspicious flight model (Not losing ANY air speed while doing full elevator horizontal turns at or below 400 km/h, even with combat flaps),
It is also woefully under-tiered, having a top speed of 648 km/h at 6000 metres altitude, adding to that a excellent turn time, dive speed and roll rate, it's single 20mm cannon is also much more effective in the other two game modes aswell, along the fire spewing 50. cal it has, I do know your statement was aimed at the Arcade version of the aircraft, but I feel like people do not seem to realize just how badly it is currently balanced, anyways, great informative video as always. :P
+James V. D. Bosch Yes I know in RB that both this and the 3P are terribly undertiered. I've read some compelling analyses that indicate their flight models are actually pretty accurate - its the battle ratings that turn them into clubbers.
+long5hot how can not losing speed in turn be a accurate FM? is that not against physics?
someone help i can not find the ammo indicator option in wt
If only the Yak 3 did not use the ShVak. That cannon and i do not get along for some reason....
Yak3 and Yak3P aren't op
They're just ridiculously undertiered
They should be fighting Bf109 G6 and higher
Same with late fw190
Griffons
P51s
P47
I been looking for a P38 but there isnt any.Soo...I would like it very much for you to do a arcade guide since I naver flew one.(Pls dont think this as you have to do it a favor.You dont necessary need to do it.Hope to see you in the skies)
pls mind my terrible english. :p
+김홍석 Your english is fine :)
I made a P-38G video about a year ago - czcams.com/video/GyjYCK3qiXA/video.html
The only changes since then are that its climbrate has been reduced, but it now has an Assaulter spawn. Otherwise everything I say in the video still holds true, though it you're really determined & disciplined its possible to do better in the plane than I did.
Wow.I wonder why I didnt see this?:/
+김홍석 Be warned - I seriously dislike P-38s in War Thunder. I did when I made that vid, I still do now.
sorry Long5shot i think you made a couple of mistakes in the yak-3 , i dont find the yak-3 a high altitude fighter (from 3k its high altitude, if im right) i see it like a mid-low altitude fighter ( my opinion , sorry for bad english and i dont play that mutch AB so i may be wrong )
+tulfuc ha Well historically it was brilliant below 4000m. In Arcade its flight model is boosted a bit of course, so its ceiling is closer to 5000m which is still not high altitude - and even so above 4000m its performance does begin to fade as you could see in the early sequence against the FW190.
My problems with the Yak-3 at low altitude are not due to the plane's performance. Its because nearly every target is moving quickly at that altitude, which only gives you brief snapshots most of the time - and its guns simply aren't powerful enough to get kills in that environment. Hence my recommendation to fly at 2000m and higher as that gives players a chance to practice energy tactics in order to trap enemies in a low energy state where its much easier to get a longer & steadier shot at targets.
+long5hot thank you Long5hot , keep up the good work
And one more thing,if you can make a video on your key binds?
+tulfuc ha Actually, ahmad elsharkawy asked me the same thing earlier - look for his comment on this video :)
+long5hot thanks
He didn't put out the oil leak, lol. He ran out of oil. If this was realistic he'd be out of the match very quickly.
Haha yes, that's what I thought happened ... but then he kept flying. Its funny how they fiddle with cooling-related damage in Arcade. In some patches you'd have a dead engine pretty quickly after springing white or black smoke. And then they'd change it so that your engine just kept ticking. In my first Arcade battle since returning to the game last week, my engine died after a short oil leak so it seems they reverted it back again.
that poor FW 190 lmaoooo it was obvious he was desperate to get a piece of that russian plane
Delta Seven with the obvious dislike lolol
One of my least favorite planes, it may as well be mounting nothing.
laughs in I153
Why the hell people play arcade battles when you've got Simulator battles in War Thunder, thats where you really experience flying, at least play Realistic!!!
+Noneofyourbussiness:) Why the hell people complain about what other people find enjoyable! RB is not much different from Arcade - less boosted FMs and no lead indicator, but the same 3rd person view with even more reliance on the mouse than in AB, and gameplay that's boring as hell for the most part.
And Sim takes a ton of time and expertise to get used to the controls (plus money to buy a decent setup), and personally I find it much harder to see planes in WT compared to other flying games. They tend to blend into the background far more in WT, even at fairly close ranges. I have a lot of respect for sim players, but not when they presume to tell everyone else how they should be playing a game.
666th View.
So..How did this guy hack???
Base raping and calling it skill it's BS!
Let me catch fresh spawns on low energy state, because challenge/skill...
How low can u go!
+ubbgn Was Long5hot base-raping? I watched it and didn't see that happening. I saw SB2Cs and PE-8s trying their best to climb at 45 degree angles basically begging to get shot down. You could maaaaaybe argue the Ki-21 and the Wellie. The Ki-21 had just spawned from the looks of it and the Wellie frequently lacks the power/speed to immediately dive from a spawn.But there is the other factor of the enemy pilot's responsibility. If I intend to spawn in a bomber for whatever reason, I definitely check the mini map for enemies anywhere near the spawn point. if there are, I don't spawn in a bomber. If I spawn in a fighter I will assume I need to dive and go evasive so I can climb again and take out the threat.Furthermore, it's kind of their own fault a fighter got above their spawn. My rule-of-thumb is this: if I am anywhere around the bomber spawn and a bomber spawns then immediately dives, I will let them go (usually). It just seems more fair to me. But climbing SB2Cs and PE-8s? killed for being so stupid.
+Bub sing Indeed. I too will let a bomber go if they immediately crash dive, but if they mosey along flying level or worse, try to fly at me as if they're a fighter, they deserve their fate. And they especially deserve it if, knowing there's an enemy fighter at their altitude, they just keep spawning bomber after bomber and not a single friendly fighter tries to do anything about it.
Also where do I "call it skill"? I don't. I was simply showing what the plane can do and pointing out its characteristics. I can certainly call the enemy pilots out though for their complete lack of skill. And lastly, what was I supposed to do in that situation? Allow all those bombers to live so they could bomb my ships and deplete my ticket count?