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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes react to Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey, Josh Allen and Brock Purdy being named the 5 NFL MVP finalist. The FTF crew also react to news Jim Harbaugh will accept the vacant HC position for the Los Angeles Chargers.
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7:31 You guys really need to Stop Bullying Brou!
I hate nick
Nick's tears over the Chiefs not getting any gh@y jock-sniffer popularity-contest awards this year, mmm, delicious. Hey if they give a "game manager of 2023" award Mahomes might be in the running for that.
Nick downplaying a 17 touchdown differential is insane lol
Nick is essentially pretending rushing TDs don’t count the same as passing TDS 🤦🏽♂️
Nick will downplay and ignore any and all stats that don't support his argument to homer for his favorite players. He does it with Mahomes, he did it with Dak and he did it with Trevor Lawrence up until his collapse became too severe. He'll pick that back up next season though.
I think people lost the plot on rushing TDs and individual stats for QBs, i blame the media. You have to check how many TD the team got overall. 22 rushing TD, of which Allen got 15. Compare that to baltimore, who also have a "rushing" quarterback: 26 rushing TD, of which Lamar Jackson had 5. How many scramble 8+yard for TD? 3 each. How many draw of 4+yards? 3 for allen, 1 for LJ. How many draws from inside the 4? 1 for Jackson, 9 for Allen. In Bmore, those 9 would have gone to Running backs or schemed to rookies WR to insert them into the team.
You actually only get 6 fake points. Sure they win you the game but everyone knows they are fake. @@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter
@MrMillefail dont tell buffalo fans that. It doesnt fit their narrative 😂
Actually Nick I think both Christian McCaffrey and Brock Purdy broke records this season boy genius.
“Writers are objective” is a crazy af statement 😂
Literally the least objective class of people on the planet ("please don't fire me, oligarch master!") Sports journalists are NOTORIOUSLY the worst form of journalist, and journalists are NOTORIOUSLY the worst form of human.
@@bigdongbob838it‘s strange they‘re even still called journalists. Slanderers and gossips calling for blows seems more correct at this point. Sour wimps and mama boys with a mic and a plattform are some other great picks.
more objective than players at least
@@fourteeneight76at the end of the day journalists are essentially just everyday fans who have a platform. Everybody normally has takes that are out there and you may look at as unintelligent. They just have a platform.
@@kawhite5344 You forgot to mention bias, self-righteous “fans”
Josh Allen had the most total tds and yards that’s a pretty good argument. The p in mvp stands for player not passer.
Right and it's not Most Valuable Team award it's the Most Valuable Player award. Most Valuable Player to his team and no one means more to their team than Allen in this argument. Among the Big names remove them for a game manager journeyman qb. Ravens make the wildcard at least. Chiefs most likely make the wildcard or at least win 9. The Bills wouldn't win 5-6 games this year without Allen to make up for all they do not have. Allen 2023 is the definition of MVP. Last 5 MVP awarded qbs have scored at least 40 tds. Only Allen did this year. Last 8 MVP's scored at least 35 tds. Jackson has only 29. That is not an MVP, which is one of the best arguments. History matters especially recent history during this era.
Seeing Nick mad about Purdy always makes my day
I loved watching him upset at Jokic last year
I agree with him about purdy but he gets so mad about it and josh allen like he actuallly looks visibly angry
It's an obsession at this point.
He hates White athletes.
J jonah Jameson style - he is never going to give up going after your friendly neighborhood QB
they always had 5 player go to MVP award? If so 5 should go this year. Nick is getting ridiculous.
Niners did have a historic offense though 😂 so idk what Nick is talking about. Broke the record for most passing yards in niner history and have 3 people with 1000 receiving yards and a 1000 yard rusher 😂. Plus if Purdy isn’t allowed then Dak shouldn’t be either 😂
All records are being broken because more games are played now. Its crazy stats before 2021 were based on less games a shorter season
If Montana had 17 games... Stats would be different
@@ldavis5928 Purdy only played 16 games by the way. Sam Darnold played that last regular season game against the Rams
@@ldavis5928 most of the 49ers starters didn't even play the final week so your point is moot
Joe Burrow had 3 guys 1000+ and didn’t win MVP. Breaking franchise records is impressive but it’s not unheard of.
Nick says let’s throw up the passing numbers and they aren’t even that different
💯😂
Allen throwing to Diggs Davis and Kincaid
Mahomes throwing to janitors and a washed up Kelce
lol
@@TDR-0484the best TE of all time?
@@TDR-0484Diggs who looked washed all year, and a rookie tight end vs the best tight end ever and “Jerry rice”?
It’s so stupid to say “Let’s just look at the passing stats”. Like yeah ok Josh Allen’s passing stats were decent with 4300, 29 TD, 18 INT. Dude had an extra 500 yards AND 15 TDS running. “but like what if we just pretend he didn’t run for 15” is not how it works
He had the most yards and tds in the league by a considerable margin. Genuinely baffling how nick can be like "but the passing stats!!!" And everyone on the shows just like "yeah, he's got a point." Like no, why tf are we looking exclusively at passing?
I actually agree. Trying to ignore Lamar's rushing TD's, historically, has turned around and bitten Josh in the rear. The problem is despite Josh's heroics his team was never dominant nor was it considered as one of the top teams in the NFL. Look. The award is highly subjective. I'm still surprised they are giving it to Lamar. I still think, at best, it will be a co-MVP. But to think Josh performed at a higher level than Lamar is just crazy. The Ravens are the best team in the NFL.
@@williejohnson5172 You can say his team performed better. 1 dude scored 51 Touchdowns this year, the other is at 33 and counting. But still.
they discredit lamar’s running 🤷🏼♂️ an lamar’s a better passer then a runner honestly anyone who says other wise just be hatin
I don't think any other QB could have went from 6-6 to 11-6. Including Mahomes this year. Not w the gauntlet Buffalo went through.
Patrick Mahomes had a regular season comparable to Jimmy G in that 2019 Super Bowl run. MVP is always going to be a regular season award. No reason to talk down Purdy and Allen when they had better regular season stats.
Allen didn’t even make pro bowl
@@jaredwolff6688yeah, how did that happen
Give Purdy Mahomes receivers and he wouldnt even be starting at this point.
@@Dryltdbecause people arent impressed with QB draws from the 2 yard line which were 10 of his TDs
@@TDR-0484 People love gunslinger QBS. I don't think Allen belongs in the top 5 MVP candidates. That was my shock.
Nobody talks bout how good the ravens defense has been all year
They do it’s just lamar comes first
Because it goes against the narrative. How do you over hype Lamar if your being real about why the Ravens have been so good this year?
Imagine Mahomes had 17 more TDs than Allen, Nick would talk all day about the difference.
What case does Mahomes have over Josh Allen for what is a regular season award? It’s not even a debate
None.
Ahhh Mahomes just went into his crib and showed him the door, and… Mahom-boy is still playing? Allen threw it in the dirt AGAIN, and asked the kicker to help keep them in game. Fail
@@Ta_Fortis.The_Brave It's a regular season award, clown.
Mahomes is a better player than Josh Allen. Plain and simple. Nobody gets more excuses than Josh Allen. If tua played like Allen he would be ripped to shreds by media.
@@davidpark2509 This is such a dumb argument. If Allen had gone to the chiefs instead Allen would have just as many accolades as mahomes.
So now rushing stats shouldn’t help the quarterback win MVP? Ohh how Nick fails to mention that when Lamar won his MVP it was because he RUSHED for 1,200 yard’s lol
Lamar isn't even in the top 10 of any passing stats, but he's the best because he can run and force defenses to worry about his legs when a play breaks down.
Rushing should definitely be accounted for but Lamar MVP season he led in passing touchdowns
In his first full season of NFL, Lamar Jackson was TOP in Passing TDs!
Allen had more rushing TDs that same season.
Lamar's Unanimous MVP "RUSHED yards" was RECORD for QB!
Those record yards were significant because they were IN ADDITION to his passing yards.
Lamar stats from his 2019 mvp year:
total yards - 4,333
touchdowns - 43
Josh Allen 2023 stats:
total yards - 4,830
touchdowns - 44
It's ok to say you think someone else had a better year and should be mvp, but the way he scoffs at even the idea of Josh Allen being in the conversation is hilarious. I really do think it's him doing anything he can to knock down anyone that could be a threat to mahomes as the best qb in the league. It's amazing how often he flip flops with the bills especially this year. First he said they won't even make the playoffs, then they talk about if bills should even be favorites especially with their defense missing so many starters and the receivers being practically even, but when the chiefs win he talks like it's an amazing accomplishment, but when it's time to talk about why it's a great accomplishment because surely something from the bills has to be great, the receivers weren't because they're even with the chiefs, the defense is full of holes from injuries, could it be the qb is great? No of course not...
Quarterbacks job is 2 manage the game and 2 make first downs touchdowns etc; by any means necessary (rushing or passing). The name of the game is 2 WIN.
Nick shows that their passing numbers are similar then Allen having way better rushing yards. Yes passing touchdowns are more important overall but because their passing numbers are similar the rushing numbers clearly push him over Mahomes for the regular season.
Josh allen is number 1 in tds, total yards, game winning drives, wins over winning teams and has the best positive play ratio. Mahomes also won an mvp with 22 turnovers
Is he a QB OR RB?
@@titoorellana871so just discount his rushing yards?
Nick wright really pretending Rushing TD for qbs don’t count because Allen has 15 more than mahomey 😂 such a terrible argument
If anything it makes Allen’s MVP argument even stronger considering the Bills only had 22 rushing TDs as a team this season
@smh0825 that isnt good. Just means Josh getting easy short TD runs that normally would go to a RB on other teams. Might be fun now but it wont be when hes a shell of himself 3 years from now for all those qb draws from the 2 yard line
Exactly my point !!!
Hey Josh, were at thr 2. Run it in. yea thats very impactful. an RB could not do that.
Nicks prejudice and bias has been the reason I am not going to stop watching this show…
Next, Nick will be saying Patty threw all those interceptions because he wanted to see someone catch a football!
This is a great comment, lol.
Good 1
Nick gets so caught up in what “should or shouldn’t be” instead of what just IS! My guy lives in hypotheticals
Glock Purdy living rent free in little Nickys head
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Allen and Purdy like they are his mortal enemies…in his little mind I guess 😂. Hilarious that they both made the list and Mahomie did not! And they definitely both deserve it over Mahomes this year.
Poor Nick. I love it that the MVP nominees bother him so much. 😂
I’m officially starting a go fund me for Nick so we can get him laid!
😎
just mad Mahomes wasnt thats all, its a chiefs show so they cant even talk about the finalists without it shifting that way
By Nicks logic Warner and Faulk shouldn’t have happened when for 3 straight years were either 1 or 2 in MVP voting. (Except one year Kurt didn’t get an mvp vote).
Did you not see where he litteraly pointed to them as a historic offense?
Also the 99 rams had the 4th best defense in the NFL, they weren’t only winning on one side of the ball the way Nick claimed. I have said all season that this years Niners strongly resemble the 99 Rams, and nothing that’s happened thus far has changed my mind. Brock Purdy absolutely deserved to be in the MVP conversation, Nick can cry all he wants.
@@HeroicCid The 99 Rams never lost at home 19 to 33 (it felt way, way more tbh, i got to bed early that day, i knew the Ravens would win mid second quarter). Kinda want a rematch too, to really, really drive the point home. Sadly it will be in a dome.
Nick fails so hard with that take. Want to know what else happened that year, Manning finished 3rd and Edgerin James finished 4th. HMMMMMM!
@@MrMillefail The Rams did, however lose to their eventual Super Bowl opponent, the Titans, in the regular season. We’ll see if the resemblance continues or not.
No season is ever going to perfectly mirror another, but there are an awful lot of similarities whether others acknowledge it or not.
Allen has almost 20 more Touchdowns then mahomes
And tua has way better qb stats than all of Allen lamar jackson and mahomes no mention of tua for mvp snub..the media has definite bias against him
@@davidpark2509Tua lost to Allen 3 times this year and got worse in every game.
@@davidpark2509he doesn’t qb stats also account for rushing
If Mahomes had Allen's rushing numbers (and the same numbers as Allen on the passing side), Nick would be advocating for Mahomes to get MVP, and you know it. But it's Allen, so of course he doesn't deserve it.
its official nick wright is to josh allen what skip bayless is to lebron james
I think something happened when he went to Cuse in college like a bills fan did something to him
@@danielventura8118 Nick one of the "Josh will never be a NFL QB" people before he was drafted. The bills play the chiefs tough every time, and when he was a kid the chiefs finally got Montana and the bills slapped them around in the playoffs. He is always gonna hate on Allen on this show.
Nick is sooo upset Mahomes is no where to be found !!!!!
Mahomes wasn’t even in the conversation this year. Allen was doubtful, but the touchdowns number matter the most.
Allen was never doubtful only for Nick and Haters. most combined Yards and TDs. No one close! Its not a popularity vote its a value vote!Lamars numbers are the same as Baker Mayfields numberrs and no way baker mayfield is an MVP!
@@raysschoko@raysschoko His interceptions are the most in his career, and his touchdowns are the least since he has been in his prime.
@raysschoko Lamar is winning and showed mvp ability before now he only does it in timely fashion and dimes throws Josh turned into a running back like they claimed Lamar was now he's somehow an mvp candidate after almost missing the playoffs? Lmao no
@@MichaelBrown-rg8oi yet he leaves in touchdowns by a mile
@@MichaelBrown-rg8oi he’s also had the worst receivers in his career im not say that should cancel out his int and he’s the mvp but when he’s hitting them in the chest and there dropping balls it’s kinda hard to get tds like I’m a eagles fan but they shoulda that game ball hit him in the hands
IT’S NOT JUST PASSING NICK!
I love how Nick brings up the passing stats between mahomes and Allen and Allen still beats him in that
There is no way this guy said “Mahomes should be invited over Purdy”.
One has wal mart receivers one has a team that Jimmy Garropolo took to the Super Bowl
@@414Mufasa Means nadda, still have to judge based on the stats. Can't invite someone based on what ifs.
@414Mufasa didn't know Walmart wideouts make the NFL 😂😂
You literally don't have to judge based on stats. If you have a HoF vote you can judge on whatever you feel like. The eye test is at least as valid as just looking at stats. @@parkinsaw
@@parkinsaw there is no what ifs in my example Mahomes has the Chiefs near the super bowl yet again with receivers out of the technology department, Purdy is doing something we also saw Jimmy Garrapolo do and he also got praise for leading the 49ers until the inevitable flop happened
Harbaugh changes everything for the Chargers. That organization is a blank slate.
The Philadelphia Eagles collapsed after Nick Wright finally admitted he liked the team after they beat the Bills in OT. I blame Nick for the collapse 😭😭
Yeah he had them smoking the Niners hahaha.
NICK IS THE BIGGEST BILLS AND JOSH ALLEN HATER
HE IS THE BIGGEST PURDY HATER
He will hate on any THREAT, yes even though Josh Allen loses to his Chiefs when it matters he is still scared on those games.
I think Allen having 50 TDs is not getting talked about enough truthfully
Because the media loves to discredit Allen and tear him apart.
@@larry2281And here's people saying Allen gets propped up in the media 😂😂😂😂
...because he didn't have 50 TDs.
@@kwamearhin2800 51 total touchdowns on the year including the playoffs. 10 more than the next guy. All top 9 guys are in the playoffs.
@@larry2281absolutely 💯
The cowboys literally had the same record as the niners but had embarrassing losses and Purdy had better stats than Purdy in everything
The laughter in the background makes the show that much better
Of all of Dak's padded stats he didn't get hardly none of it against San Francisco or Buffalo
Nicks just mad that mahomes wasn’t considered LMAO
Herbert was declining because he was getting more injured while his team was literally all on IR
Staley wasn't doing him any favors either
Doesn’t quite fit the narrative
Doesn’t quite fit the narrative
Doesn’t quite fit the narrative
EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES. Herbert overrated
Josh Allen 100 percent deserves to be on that list. I wont ever ever expect a non biased fair review of Josh Allen from Nick.
Everything Nick said initially can be said about Lamar
Lamar's first MVP is because he couldnt be stopped because of his running ability 🤣
Nick hate for Josh Allen is crazy
Nick one of the "Josh will never be a NFL QB" people before he was drafted. The bills play the chiefs tough every time, and when he was a kid the chiefs finally got Montana and the bills slapped them around in the playoffs. He is always gonna hate on Allen on this show.
Is Nick really going to complain about a double standard? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wildes be cooking on them intros lol
Bro, these are and should be the 5 finalists.
I would have looked for somebody to replace Dak.
Purdy passed for over 4,000 yards and set a new franchise single-season passing record, and McCaffrey, Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle all had over 1,000 yards. The fact that both Purdy and McCaffrey are finalists reflects how historically productive and efficient the 49ers' offense has been since those two entered the lineup.
Why would you replace dak?
@@Stephenn28cause he be stat paddin against all these tomato cans
@@jonbruce4930 nothing says statpadding like sitting out atleast 7 4th quarters right?
@@Stephenn28 he looks great playing the giants 2x, the commanders 2x, that trash Eagles defense 2x, the Patriots, the Jets, the Panthers, etc... And then he plays a real team like SF or Buffalo what's he do 🤷
@@jonbruce4930 yes he beat the giants 2 times with a combined score of 89-17, the same giants that held the bills and Josh Allen to 14 total points in the game they played. Don’t discount the jets win now when everyone for the first 5 weeks of the season was talking about how good their defense is and dak torched them(btw josh lost to them).
Brock and Josh sipping tea to this remix.
Purdy isn’t winning MVP but watching Nick squirm whenever it comes to Purdy getting praise it makes my day lmao.
This was classic Nick Wrong
Brou's been the biggest pom-pom waver all year lol that bit gets me
Alex Smith best 3 best seasons were with Ried
Wasn’t Brous point
he’s arguing dak over purdy, you can’t make this up
When they literally played each other, Purdy threw 4 TDs... Dak threw 3 picks
😈If its 2 nominated per team, then we need to push for Roquan Smith too. He completely breathed life into the defense since his arrival.
Defence players never get many mvp votes sadly - kinda unfair
Right! The whole defense was transformed as soon as we got him
Him and Drafting Kyle Hamilton
Nick is the last person on earth to cry about double standards. such a hypocrite
Have to mention Wildes pronunciation of worried as "wearied" 😂 seems intentional
Could you imagine Nick and Brou and Belichick all yelling at each other every day?! While Wildes grins maniacally.
This fool saying cj stroud should be there over Brock is some typical nick Wright favoritism. Him losing money on trey Lance has made him blinded to how good Brock is.
Finalists should be Lamar, CJ, CMC, Mahomes, and Allen....Lamar because his impact is tremendous, CJ due to having the franchise turnaround no one expected. CMC because he is the catalyst to the SF offense. Mahomes and Allen for literally carrying their teams into the playoffs (Mahomes with an inept offense and Allen for keeping them in games)
Finally someone with common sense
What impact? The numbers say Jackson is middling and is responsible for only a smidge over 50% of his team's scoring. 29 tds. Allen has 44 tds is 86% of Bills scoring and Allen is top 5 on his major qb stats. Unbelievable that blatant Chiefs fan Nick gets paid 6 figures to spew all his cherrypicked stats and egregious bias and hate.
I really like this show. They can logically argue their completely illogical emotional takes. They somehow do it without being annoying. At least to me. Gold
Dak Prescott 😂😂😂
Nick is pathetically obsessed with Allen
Mahomes takes the passing numbers by a bit if we completely ignore the rushing..to make Nick feel better. Then you see Josh's yards and touchdowns WITH the rushing and it's amazing!
And it's the only thing that bothers me with Nick.
Incredible show, by geezus, Nick. Let it go. People love watching Josh play. Last Sunday was another great back and forth game that could have been better with a kicker not going through some mental hiccups. Your guy won. Josh had ugly games, but when you can go on a run, have 44 TD's and take the division for the 4th straight year. He's very much a John Elway type...I just don't need to be waiting as late as John did.
Nick unbiased Wright/wrong again
Wow, what a clutch MVP throw by Jackson
I love when Nick is going off and Brou sips his coffee to keep his mouth shut lol
This is why Nick is the Nick Sirianni of sports media. Highly obnoxious and sometimes unlikable lol. All of his argument and takes are for the players he likes and lacks objectivity. The voters for the correct 5 players even though we all know Lamar is gone win it. CJ can make a case but missed 2 games. Tua and Patrick don’t deserve it over Purdy and Josh Allen.
Ngl, great take lolll and it’s pretty ironic too
Josh shouldn’t be on there
If you're saying CJ didn't win MVP is because he played 15 games; Lamar won his first MVP in 14 games (sat out last game, sat out four 4th quarters bc blowouts, 16 game season)
Usually agree but not on this one. He was spot on
@IHJello it's 2024
Your tears taste so good Nick!
I remember watching a game in 2011 after Harbaugh took over. Down 23-3 against the eagles, on the road, and just before the half I see Jim lean in on Alex Smiths ear and he whispers something and then they make an unbelievable comeback the next half, even though Smith fumbles the ball. He’s THAT kind of coach. Glad he’s sticking with the AFC and will also have to play his brother next year in LA. That will be a wild game.
CMC should start throwing more 😂
Most TDs, Most yards though mean nothing huh? And like top 5 in all other statistics...."Hey all let's just look at half a players numbers....oh look they aren't that good" smh.
It's ridiculous... take away Lamar rushing, he has nothing lol
Interceptions. So many interceptions. It's like absurd how many interceptions. That many interceptions is a key reason why the TD stat doesn't matter. Every time you think most TDs, also think most interceptions. Did I mention interceptions, because I'm not sure Allen knows about Interceptions and how it impacts the game.
@aaronmoravek he was the 2nd best team in AFC? Did I mention Lamar had a league high 11 fumbles? Didn't lose em all, but wow 11 fumbles. He also finished with double digit turnovers.
@@josephbanker3829lamar only lost 2 more fumbles than allen. Lamar has 13 turnovers compared to Allen's 22 turnovers.
@GyalisAndino here are the facts...
Allen
#1 total tds
#1 total yds
#4 pass yds
#5 pass tds
#1 rush tds (NFL record)
Most games 1 pass and 1 rush td (NFL record)
Most 3 td games
Only QB with 40+ tds
League best 5-1 vs playoff teams
Highest percentage of leading a team in tds
Lamar
#15 pass yds
#11 pass tds
Not top 5 for total yds or total tds
Under 30 tds
Under 4k passing
6 games under 200 yds
Let's get real.
Lamar earned it by playing consistently all season. 🔥
Josh Allen should be #2 based on his stats. It’s such a weak take to only consider passing TDs and discount his production for his turnovers. He lead the league with 44-18 and that 18 is his only bad stat.
Turnovers matter you fool lol
That's a critical stat that can't be ignored
Lamar wasn't consistent all season tho 3 games he really didn't show up and in 4 games he didn't even have a passing td. He's been carried by a great defense to where he's not ask to win games but don't lose them. He's been this years Trent Dilfer.
Yeah np. He was consistent at the end of the year but certainly not all year long. This is why he will win the MVP though. The end of the year is what everyone remembers. Except Dak in Nicks case. He thinks Dak played great in every game including the Niners game, lol.
@@TinoR626that's because they never trailed in the 4th quarter in most there games so there running the ball to eat clock not because he can't 😂😂
@@TinoR626there's never been a team to win a sb that wasn't top 5 in defense look it up
"IVE GOT NINE NAMES"
*3 names later*
"OK MAYBE 9 IS TOO MUCH"
If it wasnt for Purdy's game against the Ravens he would have been a slam dunk runner-up. 😂😅
Complaining about Josh Allen’s passing numbers when Lamar has the passing numbers he has is crazy. They are same besides the turnovers lol
The turnovers that led the Bills to those losses! Lamar clearly outplayed him and led his team to the 1 seed and played better against the teams above.500‼️
@@lennybeason1110that's a false narrative and stats back Allen up. Allen's touchdown to turnover advantage/margin is better than Jackson, Mahomes, Tua and Hurts, take your pick. Not bad considering the false "turnover machine" narrative. With increased production comes a rise in turnovers. Smh. According to PFF analytics Allen had one of the LOWEST Turnover Worthy Play Percentages in NFL this year. That means he had bad luck, other players made exceptional plays or it was intentional (arm punts, hail Mary's). I know you don't want Allen to get the award. But that doesn't mean Allen doesn't FACTUALLY deserve it, which he does.
@@lennybeason1110Lamar is still a mediocre passer. His whole argument is the Ravens’ record.
@@rturner09251 Lamar is a way above average passer. Stop the 🧢 ‼️ His passing % is the same as Mahomes. No matter how u feel Lamar is already a sure fire HOFer!
Allen or nobody on the list single handily lost a game for their team like Patrick Mahomes did vs the Raiders!
Nick Wright said Dak deserves to be there over Josh that hilarious, I can understand Purdy to a degree but to say Dak deserves to go when Chris has been on the money about him and the Cowboys is ridiculous. Josh while not having the counting numbers willed his team back into the playoffs even when they were on the brink of elimination, Nick talks about Josh's shortcomings and always downplays the heroics Josh puts on display for his team.
There’s no reason dak shouldn’t be there, stop acting like playoffs matter for mvp voting.
@@Stephenn28you're right but Allen also has better overall numbers and beat Dak head to head.
@@BillsMafiaExperience James cook won that head to head
@@Stephenn28 okay then if playoffs don’t matter I’ll still take Purdy n Allen over dak easy
@@Stephenn28 is that not on the quarterback to make those decisions to understand the game they and determining the plays that will give them the chance to win?
The Bills have a coaching problem.
Brou could not be more wrong when he says sports writers are objective. Sports writers like STORIES. You wanna know what would make a great story? Mr. Irrelevant wins league MVP. To say that the voters have no bias is laughable at best, downright dishonest at worst.
Nick is a sophist. Right in front of him, a graphic clearly illustrates that Allen was responsible for 17 more touchdowns than Mahomes and had a turn over ratio of 2.0 whereas Mahomes had a ratio of roughly 1.59. It’s fine to say Mahomes has achieved more, thus is the superior player but to literally build your argument for this seasons production being superior by omitting data is just obnoxious. Does anyone believe he would accept such an argument had Mahomes even had one rushing TD and was being compared to a more traditional pocket passer? I love the show, but sometimes I wish the others would push back on him more. Especially of late as he seems to be more prone to raising his voice to belittle those presenting arguments he disagrees with.
It's his show you wanna push back go find a new job.
@tino2705
It’s been his show since 2017. Ratings have grown 82% and 73% respectively in the last two years. Those are massive numbers that correlate with format of the show being instead built around the 3 of them.
Rushing TDs totally count towards the final score. Lol
This is, by far, the best show on FS1.
Allen
#1 total tds
#1 total yds
#4 pass yds
#5 pass tds
#1 rush tds ( NFL record)
Most games with 1 pass 1 rush td ( NFL record )
League best 5-1 vs playoff teams
Only QB over 40 tds
Lamar
#15 pass yds
#11 pass tds
Not top 5 in total yds or tds
Under 30 tds
Under 4k passing
6 games under 200 yds
Ravens have a better coach and defense.
Lamar gets the credit.
Lamar will get the nod for what he did at the end of the season. Anything before the Niners game doesn't matter, as you can tell.
@@marcusaurelius5149and it ain't the Most Valuable Coach award or Most Valuable Defense or any of that. Allen = 2023 MVP or the whole thing is full of sh*t.
@@byronsmith3152so completely ignore stats and individual player achievements for the Most Valuable Player award then? 😂
@@BillsMafiaExperience They are ignoring them, not me. I can see the case for Allen but look what they did for Brock after 1 bad game. The QB that lead in almost every stat there is for almost the entire year. They still have Dak in the top 5 ffs.
See I'm born and raised in Kansas City and I can tell you s*** like this makes me not like Nick Wright he says that Josh Allen did not wow anybody and he's not an MVP candidate because there's nothing special about his passing numbers but that's funny because if you look at the stats he has more yards he has more completions he has more touchdowns than Lamar who is apparently the runaway for MVP it just don't make sense to me Nick even mentions the fact that Josh Allen is a good runner and he even ran more touchdowns than Lamar did so what the f*** is the craze about Lamar why is it that Brock purdy will throw 250 yards in a game and they said he did just enough to not lose the game but Lamar throws 150 yards in the game and he's this great Transcendent MVP caliber player
Exactly 💯
Nick went HAM on NFL Honors
Nick put the writers on the bulletin. The only crazy feasible way to eliminate them from the board would be if the Chiefs beat the ravens and then go onto beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl. That would be insane.
Josh Allen definitely has no business being in the MVP conversation. C'mon man, he threw like, what, 20 picks? You can make a case for Purdy.
Having CMC and Purdy on the same list just shuts down the argument for both. All the casuals that was claiming first Purdy deserve it untill he got exposed against the ravens and went to CMC. So how you gone think one of em is the MVP when y’all don’t even know who is the most valuable player in your own team 😂
So your not allowed 2 players play great during a regular season
Lol, you’re the casual. Look up Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner and get back to me.
@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoterwho is more valuable?
@@Messigoat1033the QB is always more valuable that’s not even a question
Love this show!
Man, love this show
If dak wins the sport as a whole is cooked
Completely agree with Nick on this. Made no sense to vote for both Purdy and MCM when the offense wasn't record-breaking dominant.
They weren't dominant?? Do you watch the NFL, or just think about it? They were 3rd in pts/gm at 28.9. Stop glazing Nick.
Not record-breaking dominant.@@ColdRunnerGWN
@@jehushaphat - Are you Nick's burner account? You sure know how to move goal posts.
What was so special about lamar?
lol - you're funny.@@ColdRunnerGWN
Nick Wright earliet in the year. You have to be the 1 or 2 seed to win. When names get announced, Id pick guys not the 1 or 2 seed to be above them
Old school Bru 😂😂😂
There is absolutely no argument that Dak was an MVP candidate but Purdy and Allen were not
NICK REALLY HAD THEM TAKE DOWN THE GRAPHIC OF ALLEN & MAHOMES OVERALL YEAR BECAUSE IT SHOWED ALLEN WAS HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE!!!!! HAHA COME ON NICK!!!!!
I hope purdy and cmc co-mvp for maximum chaos
Josh Allen had 50 total tds and was a 2 seed.
dont worry lamar had 19 passing tds going in to week 18 but he's the mvp
So you're going to sit here and act like Josh Allen didn't throw 18 interceptions but let that be Lamar it'll be breaking news f o h@@brandonmoore9440
IN DAK WE TRUST 💯🔥🔥 Dak is that Dude!!!!💯
Blows my mind you have any faith in that bum
😂😂😂 FOH! I want to ask a Cowboys/ Dak fan.... How is Dak ahead of Brock Purdy for MVP...?
Your MVP can't beat good teams... ? HOW valablue is that, really?
I trust him to give any playoff team an easy win. They need to keep Dak he gives playoff teams a mini bye week were you only have to play like it's practices.
@@BratatoChip y'all some straight losers/black sheep of y'all family 😂 Gtfoh! Dak is that DUDE!! BOTTOM LINE!! 💯💯🔥
He isn't above Allen in this. No one is. Allen's got the best overall numbers and beat Dak in the reg season head to head.
Dak has to be there but not Purdy?? this dude is unbelievable lmao
Nick ALREADY getting the Herbert excuses prepped up lmao 🤣
I almost can’t listen to Nick anymore at this point