Avengers Style Super Smash Bros Movie Being Pitched By Illumination Report

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  • čas přidán 20. 12. 2023
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  • @TFedits85
    @TFedits85 Před 5 měsíci +17

    Saying you don't think an animated Star Fox, Metroid, and Kirby movie wouldn't do well is insane

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci

      Of those three choices, I don’t see them doing a Star Fox movie for a good reason : Star Fox is a dead franchise since Star Fox Zero. Unless Nintendo decides to make another Star Fox game, that franchise will not be adapted to film.

  • @ThisIsNoConcept
    @ThisIsNoConcept Před 5 měsíci +120

    You’re so wrong John. How popular was Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man before the first Avengers? They need to make quality and fun movies in order to build up the hype. I’d go with Donkey Kong, Zelda, Starfox, Metroid, and Kirby. Then the Super Smash Bros movie

    • @matthewbain21
      @matthewbain21 Před 5 měsíci +15

      Agreed, Kirby or Star fox could make for good series. Metroid as movies.

    • @yusufbey1587
      @yusufbey1587 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Cap has always been popular since marvel vs capcom days lol

    • @TaylorKillzit
      @TaylorKillzit Před 5 měsíci +9

      Yeah, you can't have meaningful storytelling and narrative impact without first developing two-three characters. Otherwise, it would just be shallow fan service. John doesn't understand videogame storytelling. The general audience needs to have some character development and story threads to lead into a Smash movie. That's why he ain't a write.

    • @LiamHughes-sy7zl
      @LiamHughes-sy7zl Před 5 měsíci

      But he’s saying not that that they should do it is and not copy marvel the fact of having smash popular and just characters in they’re own shit I get it so we’ll c wut happens

    • @TaylorKillzit
      @TaylorKillzit Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@LiamHughes-sy7zl Look at it this way. Smash didn't come out until all those characters had their own games. There's no hype in the Smash videogame if they don't also have their own games before it. That's not a Marvel thing. That's just good storytelling.

  • @JWLearning
    @JWLearning Před 5 měsíci +9

    • Super Mario Bros
    • Legend of Zelda
    • Donkey Kong Country
    • Super Mario 2: Yoshi's Island
    • Metroid
    • Kirby
    • Star Fox
    • Super Smash Bros

  • @nicholaspetrino7695
    @nicholaspetrino7695 Před 5 měsíci +9

    John, you're wrong. Super Smash Bros is a HUGE crossover game franchise. That movie would make a BILLION, EASY!

  • @WAHegle91
    @WAHegle91 Před 5 měsíci +11

    John seriously underestimates the popularity of the Nintendo and Nintendo-adjacent properties that are in Super Smash Bros. Sonic, Metroid, Mega Man, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Pac-Man. If the studios can play nice, Metal Gear Solid can be included. Hell, the Pokémon that’ll be included would play an enormous part in whatever the movie would turn out to be.

  • @klimmr
    @klimmr Před 5 měsíci +7

    If the Warner Brothers/Paramount merger goes through, there could be a crossover between Detective Pikachu and Sonic the Hedgehog.

  • @peterporker7822
    @peterporker7822 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I don’t think what John said about the character’s popularity is necessarily true. The Switch is one of the most highest selling Video Game Console of all time. And the top 5 games are Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, Breath of the Wild, and then Mario Odyssey. So the video game crossover sold more than a mainline Mario game. And Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was also a crossover of sorts since Link and Animal Crossing characters were prevalent. Plus, in terms of the overseas crowd, they go crazy for animal crossing and fire emblem. And things would only go crazier if they are able to bring in the likes of Pac-Man, Sonic, and Steve

    • @Togemon5
      @Togemon5 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I agree with you. I do agree with John if you are talking about characters that break into pop culture for NON-GAMERS then anything that isn't Mario they probably won't know. But everyone in the gaming community knows other Nintendo characters and you don't have to further than when E3 or in more recent years a Nintendo Direct is coming out. When a Direct is coming the question isn't what Mario game, cuz it's a given that we might hear something, it normally is when are they finally announce the long-wanted Metroid Prime 4, for example. Also just look at Smash itself when they reveal characters. Normally the reveals of characters that aren't from Mario get way more fanfare than any Mario characters ever do.

    • @peterporker7822
      @peterporker7822 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Togemon5 dude fr. And just look at the internet as a whole. When the pandemic hit Animal Crossing was essentially 50% of our online entertainment. When Steve was announced for Smash Twitter nearly exploded. And Pokémon is literally the highest grossing franchise period

  • @tysaylorphoto
    @tysaylorphoto Před 5 měsíci +7

    Smash Bros would easily do $1-billion at the box office. A lot of people grew up on those games, and would turn out for this movie, just as we did with the Mario movie. To me, a smash bros film is a no-brainer if they want to make some other introductory movies beforehand.

  • @actionfx1
    @actionfx1 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Rushing was what the DCEU did and look how that turned out for them

  • @hjames78
    @hjames78 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Kids know these characters John. My nephew who is ten pulls super smash bros out for us to play every time I visit. And he been playing it since he was seven.....these kids know these characters regardless of them being as old as they are. Kirby is the main character of the story mode man

  • @user-rv9hp6bo3y
    @user-rv9hp6bo3y Před 5 měsíci +7

    It makes sense. Solo Mario, solo Zelda, solo metroid and Star Fox then put them all together. Shared universes are risky but if they pulled it off it would be a massive hit.

  • @kinglowery9686
    @kinglowery9686 Před 5 měsíci +6

    U really don't know how big this game is and was

  • @Mr.LegendDude
    @Mr.LegendDude Před 5 měsíci +7

    You can't start with the team-up movie. That's why we buried the DCEU earlier today.

  • @mattmcdonnell4205
    @mattmcdonnell4205 Před 4 měsíci +3

    There’s no way I wouldn’t believe this wasn’t Illumination’s intention from the get-go.

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed Před 4 měsíci +6

    How are you forgetting that the MCU started with unknown characters and kept making unknown characters into beloved ones? 💀😭

  • @CorderoStephens
    @CorderoStephens Před 5 měsíci +6

    John thinking that one of the most successful and popular game franchises won’t make a billion is hilarious. People really be sleep on how much these characters are beloved.

    • @Bombasaur101
      @Bombasaur101 Před 5 měsíci

      John does not understand gaming culture and it shows. Everytime he tried to talk about games you can tell he knows nothing about what he talks about, especially mentioning characters.

  • @manguy01
    @manguy01 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Nintendo _does_ have multiple Marios. And they'll all have already been in movies:
    • *Mario* • *Donkey Kong* • *Link* • *Pikachu*
    There's your core. Then, sprinkle in your Black Widow / Hawkeye characters _(Samus, Fox, Kirby, and Captain Falcon)._
    That's your roster of 8 Smash Bros. You can also bring in Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Ganondorf, Zelda, and Mewtwo. Heck, you could even throw in Sonic. People will all already know who they are from previous movies.

  • @atavious2491
    @atavious2491 Před 5 měsíci +9

    7:05 I disagree with this statement. I think John is underestimating gaming culture and video game fandoms because I see that there are a lot of people who are into a lot of lesser known games like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Banjo and Kazooie, Viva Pinata. Video games and online gaming nowadays are more prevalent in our leisure than reading comic books. Not many kids today like to read. That's just what it is. We're living in a tech dominated world and therefore, there's going to be a lot more people who are going to be able to pick up on a certain character that they recognize. Because technological toys like video games are easier and more popular to access than to go and buy expensive rare comic books that not many people are going to read. Most general audiences just go to watch superhero movies for the movies themselves, not because they're die hard comic book nerds. Those groups of people are more on the niche side. Gamers however can prosper a lot more and boost ticket sales because the IP they're adapting is something that can be relevant to those masses, like what happened to FNAF. If the Slenderman movie came out when the creepypasta was still popular it would've done a bit better. Not much, but still young gen z and alpha would've been able to recognize the character as that scary horror Markiplier or mat pat reviews on CZcams. The fans will propel the success

  • @CeeDoubleYou3
    @CeeDoubleYou3 Před 5 měsíci +5

    They dont need to make 4 or 5 more separate movies before making a Smash Game. Smash is one of the most popular and best selling games for Nintendo since the 90s. It’s gonna make crazy money regardless of its quality just off nostalgia alone

  • @rlamas4783
    @rlamas4783 Před 5 měsíci +12

    So john doesn’t know anything about these characters and his pitch is that instead of doing individual movies he wants them to justice league it and immediately jump into and and because he knows Nintendo crosses over with other franchises he thinks unrelated characters who aren’t from video games should be brought in? How does a movie with mario plus all these different characters with all these different fanbases make less money than just a mario movie

  • @JD-iu6rv
    @JD-iu6rv Před 5 měsíci +9

    Knowing Nintendo they won’t do it. Even if it makes perfect sense

  • @momoy8885
    @momoy8885 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I agree with Rey’s logic on this topic. Pokemon is at par with Mario on popularity alone. Billion dollars baby!🍻

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed Před 4 měsíci +5

    5:47 "Reverse engineer the Marvel formula", cause that worked well for DC, lmao. They made the all-together movie before they established half the characters.

  • @PacsPlace
    @PacsPlace Před 5 měsíci +8

    He’s waaayyyy off super smash bros has insane sales and Mario, Pichachu and Zelda are insanely popular and those characters alone would draw an audience

    • @RicochetGrey
      @RicochetGrey Před 5 měsíci

      I cannot believe how ignorant he is on the success and popularity of these characters even after Sonic and Mario

    • @CorderoStephens
      @CorderoStephens Před 5 měsíci

      Bro facts!! John tweaking 😂

  • @Gwaly1
    @Gwaly1 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Completely disagree with coming out right away. You need to build your way to smash bros. You already made a Mario movie, they're doing a Zelda film, and you can spin off Donky Kong. You can make some kind of agreement with Ryan Reynolds Detective Pikachu and Paramounts Sonic and explaine that all these characters are all from different universes. There's no real story for the Smash Bros games so you'll have to be creative. But i always felt that the reason why the MCU worked was because faze 1 did a great job in building all the way till Avengers 1. I never understood why all these studios didn't follow that formula. It's like they see "Universe", and that will make automatic money. Just make solid films, build characters, bring them together. BOOM.

    • @inboundxcx
      @inboundxcx Před 5 měsíci

      They can establish this with maybe one scence in another moviie, if theyre gonna do it they will set it up

  • @benraven9087
    @benraven9087 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Personally, I think at least 5 of the OG 8 Smash characters are popular enough to support their own movies. You think people wouldn't go see a Kirby, Metroid, or Donkey Kong movie? They may not make as much as Mario, but they'd still be mega successful.
    As the for the idea itself, I don't know. Unlike Marvel, these Nintendo franchises are wildly different in both tone and audience.

    • @1hiphopnow
      @1hiphopnow Před 5 měsíci

      Metroid could be dope with the right writers.
      Mario did phenomenal as well as the planet of the apes , Kong, Godzilla vs Kong so a Donkey Kong movie could do very well.

  • @warfighterarmy
    @warfighterarmy Před 5 měsíci +4

    The Super Mario Bros movie has made over 1 bil, and about 600 mil in the USA.

  • @MallyMall4488
    @MallyMall4488 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This is the one topic I think that John should stay out of. He doesn’t have the casual knowledge to know how huge the other Nintendo properties are and how long Smash has been around. I’m 35 and I remember renting the original Smash at blockbuster back in 1999 when it came out. Nintendo has a long legacy that extends beyond Mario. But John is a movie guy so I can’t fault him for that.

    • @JL-nb1yc
      @JL-nb1yc Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly, he clearly has no idea what he's talking about. How can you say that Mario is the only popular character Nintendo has? Samus Aran? Link? Fire Emblem?

  • @athorem
    @athorem Před 5 měsíci +5

    Yeah even if people don't know the different franchises they at least know the characters from Super Smash Brothers. Way more people have played Captain Falcon in Smash Bros then have ever played his games. I'm sure there's some public interest at least in the characters themselves if not their universes.
    Also, the Marvel movies turned Iron Man and Captain America into A-listers. They were way less popular beforehand. It's not necessary for everyone to have the popularity of Mario

  • @thelastquincy1457
    @thelastquincy1457 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I dont think John and the others understand the popularity of nintendo and these characters they have.
    If marvel can do it with characters who before the MCU were no where near as popular as the Nintendo characters who would get there own movies, nintendo can do it.

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci +1

      True. But they have to keep the story quality up, that was an issue with the Mario Movie

  • @lthhuang646
    @lthhuang646 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Go straight into a super smash bro movie will be just like the DCEU Justice league, which was a failure

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah individual movies for buildup sounds like a good idea. I think a lot of people forget that Marvel heroes were way less popular before the Avengers, but the buildup worked

  • @crashbandi-cody6782
    @crashbandi-cody6782 Před 5 měsíci +6

    John is tweaking on this one 😂

  • @jayetoler1923
    @jayetoler1923 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I’m so down! Super smash bros like an avengers set up? Sounds fucking dope! The animation and technology will be much advanced by the time this gets worked on so it’s gonna look dope!

  • @darkcosmos88
    @darkcosmos88 Před 5 měsíci +3

    It's already been done Terminalmontage: The Subsapace Emissary

    • @kotakkon
      @kotakkon Před 5 měsíci

      Why recommend the comedy fanmade video and not the actual Subspace Emissary cutscene movie

    • @darkcosmos88
      @darkcosmos88 Před 5 měsíci

      @@kotakkon I like to laugh.

  • @paultwarowski5241
    @paultwarowski5241 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Respectfully, Metroid could also break a billion, Kirby would be $500mil at least, and then don’t sleep on another Pokémon movie that breaks away from Ash and the tv show.

    • @user-kx9xb7zm5g
      @user-kx9xb7zm5g Před 5 měsíci

      No they won’t 😂 if Pokémon couldn’t do it. Why would Metroid or Kirby do it. Mario did it cause everyone knows them, even parents.

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci

      Sorry man but Metroid isn't as popular as you think. Metroid being niche is something that Nintendo fans have been coming to terms with for years. It might be a classic game but it's not as popular as Mario or Zelda

  • @maui5867
    @maui5867 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Going straight into it didnt work for justice league lmao

  • @lincoln2324
    @lincoln2324 Před 5 měsíci +1

    We all loved the first avengers movie because, in a way, it represented an achievement that many comic book readers dreamt of: a gathering of their favourite heroes fighting together. BUT the have seen crossovers many times even before 2012, especially on TV. Now, I agree with John. Just because a formula worked once doesn't mean it'll every time someone decides to replicate it in another format or franchise, look what happened to the Dark Universe, or even sadder, DC: a decent planning and bad execution, and although the directors are the ones facing the media most of the times when everything falls apart, it's actually because of executives that this things don't always work. Crossovers aren't always the best ideas

  • @Jacksabbath44
    @Jacksabbath44 Před 4 měsíci +5

    John you clearly don't know anything about this potential juggernaut, that's right, you barely know Mario, but kids that barely care for movies are fanatics of dozens of other characters, this is a good platform for a shared universe because even horrible movies would make 400 million easily, is not the same thing as mature-oriented videogame franchises, and Smash doesn't even make a lot of sense storywise, so it doesn't need to be nearly as cohesive as the MCU

    • @Charles12
      @Charles12 Před 4 měsíci

      but why? why can't they just make GOOD movies instead of exploiting the brand you babies pay precious money for?

  • @Ultraninja24395
    @Ultraninja24395 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Dude it’s Finally happening!!!!!!!

  • @strykerx24
    @strykerx24 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Who will come in and talk to Mario about the Smash Initiative?

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci

      IDK but Captain Falcon makes a pretty good Captain America stand in

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed Před 4 měsíci +4

    I'm sorry but John is so out of touch with Nintendo 😭
    7:34 "None of them knows who the other characters are" 💀

  • @johnnyray2349
    @johnnyray2349 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Bruh a lineup with
    Mario, Luigi, Peach, Donkey Kong, Link, the chick from metroid and friggin Starfox?!?! Shut up and take my money

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 Před 5 měsíci

    I think Campea's panel might have an interesting idea via going the alternate Avengers route with Smash Bros. I recall this approach is what DC wanted to do with that first version of Justice League around 2009 or so. But scrapped it I think due to Nolan's Batman still being a thing. I'd be curious to see how things could play out with Smash first and then giving the participants movies afterwards. But I am kind of curious as to what kind of plot they could give a game like Smash that would be an enjoyable popcorn movie.
    I assume an Enter The Dragon, Mortal Kombat style tournament plot structure could play somewhat of a role. But I don't think that will be all.

  • @chris34ce
    @chris34ce Před 5 měsíci +6

    Is John insane this is Mario anybody who thought it wasn’t making a Billion was insane and John is crazy if he thinks a Super Smash Bros movie won’t make a Billion dollars just insanity 😂😂😂😂John takes been off

  • @tareqlabeeb2000
    @tareqlabeeb2000 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I heard John’s canadian with “sorry” 😅😂

    • @alejandroangel998
      @alejandroangel998 Před 5 měsíci

      Been waiting after all these years to hear his Canadian accent 😅

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed Před 4 měsíci +1

    Some Nintendo characters could easily be turned into franchise movies with sequels (Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Bayonetta...), but some might lack the material for sequels and therefore would benefit from a Smash Bros movie to appear in (Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Kirby...).
    They could also include the ones that are already being made by other studios (Netflix's Pokémon series/Paramount's Sonic movies).

  • @martinalbert29
    @martinalbert29 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Everyone was sceptical of the Mario movie then it made more than a billion. I can’t speak to the box office of the other Nintendo movies but once they have done all the intro movies and release the Smash Bros avengers style movie with Mario I am 100% sure it will surpass 1B as well.

    • @CorderoStephens
      @CorderoStephens Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly!

    • @Bombasaur101
      @Bombasaur101 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@darrylstephens1145 I was only skeptical of Mario because the Pokemon Live Action made nowhere near a billion.
      The movie the Mario Movie made doesn't surprise me. It still surprises me Pikachu didn't do far better.

  • @zavistyle6080
    @zavistyle6080 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I don’t think they should make a smash bros movie, but they definitely should make more Nintendo movies like Kirby or star fox

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci

      Star FOX will never happen unless Nintendo decides to make another game in the future. That franchise has been dead since Star Fox Zero.

  • @SuperRamos619
    @SuperRamos619 Před 5 měsíci +5

    The original game was about toy figures fighting magic hands. . .
    Pls don't make a cinematic universe. Just make it Nintendo Toy Story instead.

  • @citysmall3427
    @citysmall3427 Před 4 měsíci +2

    We've already got Mario, Detective Pikachu, and Sonic. All well liked. They're the attraction. Anyone who liked those will go see this. I feel like John and many others underestimate the fandom for Super Smash bros.
    Hell, tap into the Undertale fandom by just slipping Sans in as a purely joke character and you've just set up interest in an Undertale movie.

  • @TheSoloManiac
    @TheSoloManiac Před 5 měsíci +1

    It doesn't matter if the characters are known or not, what matters is if the story, characters and the films are good. If they are good, then new fans will begin to love Metroid, Starfox, Legend of Zelda, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Kirby, ect

  • @user-sk9qg2rb6b
    @user-sk9qg2rb6b Před 5 měsíci +4

    DC jumped to fast to Justice League, ya got to go slow so each character movie builds an audience that will carry over to the “avengers” movie

    • @1hiphopnow
      @1hiphopnow Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yes DC did. The first Wonder Woman and Aquaman were good to me. There was no need to rush when they could’ve built their world

  • @connorodonnell194
    @connorodonnell194 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Not everything needs a Cinematic Universe 😂

  • @bryanpowell2388
    @bryanpowell2388 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think studios need to leave the marvel formula alone

  • @ivanhernandez7888
    @ivanhernandez7888 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is actually one movie you could make from the get go. It doesn’t need build up. Video game movies are targeted to a specific public and they need no introductions, and this characters are cool enough as to guarantee the interest of the public for new products after a Smash Movie. Videogames come in 2 variations: the ones with shallow stories that are forgettable or super simple to explain in 2 min; or the super complex that need several games to develop. Bad idea to first develop the characters because that would require a bazillion movies first and people will get tired before getting to the main event. A good Smash Bros movie would need tons of characters, maybe not all of them but at least as many as the original game. if not a few more if you really want an epic movie that remains in the minds of the collective for the eras, movies are supposed to be fun and imaginative; we don’t need to build up for dark massive events with everything. Nintendo has the right blend of characters to enchant the viewers.

  • @Noiz_music
    @Noiz_music Před 5 měsíci +2

    Idk John… I would love to see them all honestly. As long as it’s fun and jam packed I’m in!!!

  • @andyscott5277
    @andyscott5277 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Nah, you’ve got to build up to it imo. Movies based on Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, etc. would be huge individually. Not every character needs a solo outing, but the big ones at the center of the movie should.

  • @mannyrios97
    @mannyrios97 Před 5 měsíci +3

    John you’re crazy this is the most surefire billion dollar film to ever exist even if it’s just crap thrown on a screen. Smash Bros is like GTA where it’s part of the cultural zeitgeist when it releases especially the last one where it’s one of the best fighting games of all time

  • @vossybob
    @vossybob Před 5 měsíci +2

    I love the idea but this is way too early. I personally found adding Donkey Kong into the Mario film was too early. They need to let the characters breathe before making them fight each other.

  • @mazn8605
    @mazn8605 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Sonic is gonna end up being the Spider-Man of this universe and they’re gonna have to make small little Sony deals for each set of movies lmao

  • @maxcombo3448
    @maxcombo3448 Před 5 měsíci +1

    you can do a Super Smash Bros movie where you have a villain who is threatening the universe itself and all the Nintendo IP's and others fight together

  • @connorsachse6192
    @connorsachse6192 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think even a bad super smash would knock on the door of 1billion. And I NEVER say that about films, I tend to have much more conservative expectations than I find most ppl do.

  • @kinglowery9686
    @kinglowery9686 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That shit is going to break all records

  • @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
    @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 Před 5 měsíci +4

    But here’s the problem when you’re trying to do a super smash Bros equivalent to the avengers movie, you got figure out how you gonna do it right and what the tone of it, it’s gonna be, and you have these toxic fans, sadly ruined the experience.

    • @blake8357
      @blake8357 Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci +1

      100% agree. Also, the sad reality is that no matter what they do, they will never be able to do a movie that satisfies every Smash Brothers fan.
      One thing I want is that they start with a very small roster just like how the first Avengers movie had six heroes. If they have too many characters for the first movie, it becomes overcrowded and messy. That was my biggest problem with the 2021 Mortal Kombat.

  • @landonhulett2119
    @landonhulett2119 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You can't just rush into a Smash Bros movie without building up the other characters and worlds of what will become the Nintendo Cinematic Multiverse. Because then you'll have people who don't play any video games or ones who hasn't played any Nintendo titles since the SNES questioning of their stories, details, etc. Even though Mario and other are well known from their games, remember; The Super Mario Bros Movie is set in its own, separate universe that unrelated to the Mario games. So, the same can be said with the other future Nintendo movies and stream/web/online series.

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia Před 5 měsíci

      Mario zelda and pokemon have movies in the works you'd only need a fourth

  • @abloshow91
    @abloshow91 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Metroid kirby and donkey kong are pretty popular and Zelda is always touching mario in terms of popularity

  • @flaminggmonkeyss
    @flaminggmonkeyss Před 5 měsíci

    I would love to see it but if its def got to be done with a lot of care and planning
    also will it be hyrbrid live action and animated? How is that going to work i wonder, theres not as much reason to see an animtated smash bros imo we've already got the games to see that.
    But if they can pull of a live action smash bros movie, im all in

  • @DeeboFromHI
    @DeeboFromHI Před 5 měsíci +1

    Animal crossing is a really big franchise that would probably be in the line up. Also maybe splatoon seems to be a big priority for Nintendo nowadays. I could also see pikmin (even though not super super mainstream) being a suprise hit with a lot of kids. Maybe give the pikmin a sort of minions like personality

    • @jaealxndr
      @jaealxndr Před 5 měsíci

      yoshi would happen before that and even that is a long shot

  • @jaealxndr
    @jaealxndr Před 5 měsíci

    3rd party wise i dont see them happening. Mega man etc.. but making movies with 64 smash bros cast is big enough and will sell enough

  • @maingamer6846
    @maingamer6846 Před 5 měsíci

    Even though there owned by different companies, I don't see why they just bring in the Zelda movie along with the Sonic films and Detective Pickahu film into this year. Would save them time

  • @StarzGecko
    @StarzGecko Před 5 měsíci

    Everyone does have good points. Right now Smash Bros Ultimate has sold over 30+ million copies which is a huge deal for the franchise but I don’t think having films build up to it is a good idea. Really, the games themselves seem to suggest that it’s separate from each franchise world/universe. John makes a good point about just doing it to see who the audience really likes since we don’t really know how other franchises besides Mario & Zelda will do in theaters.
    Sales for classic series like Star Fox and Metroid are small compared to other franchises. I would prefer they figure out how to make films based on their franchises to see what the audience likes and be interested in

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 Před 5 měsíci +1

    7:26 I think Marvel proved you can take “unknown” characters and turn them into superstars.
    But Super Smash Bros didn’t start with Super Smash Bros. It was a build up from NES to N64 and tons of games. They have characters from games that we still haven’t seen in a while.

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci

      The difference is that Marvel has decades of comics material to pull from and those characters have crossed over multiple times in comics. Before Smash Brothers, Nintendo characters never crossed over like that. Also the fact that Nintendo franchises are very different in tone. How do you make them all work in a shared universe?

  • @themango6140
    @themango6140 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yesss!!!!!!!!!

  • @apflor323
    @apflor323 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Avengers 5: Nintendo Dynasty..... You're welcome

  • @theMcWOPPER
    @theMcWOPPER Před 5 měsíci

    They already have Ben Schwartzs Sonic and Ryan Reynolds Pikachu!!

  • @LiamHughes-sy7zl
    @LiamHughes-sy7zl Před 5 měsíci

    all cinematic universe not all end game he means certain 1s obviously this is a chance 4 them 2 bit good marvels may b something right now but the cinematic universe I can Reilly trust them

  • @bryceblackwell1334
    @bryceblackwell1334 Před 5 měsíci

    Interesting

  • @AGrant-dy8rh
    @AGrant-dy8rh Před 5 měsíci +1

    I agree just make this movie let super Mario 2 kick it off and then bring this out. It will make a bil!

  • @9latinumStudioz
    @9latinumStudioz Před 5 měsíci +4

    Mario was aiigh
    Bowser simping and the blue death star were the highlights ✨️

    • @TaylorKillzit
      @TaylorKillzit Před 5 měsíci +4

      I agree that Mario Bros wasn't as good as fans claim it is. The writing was nothing to brag about. It was barely passable to promote fan service.

  • @hiddenzombie013
    @hiddenzombie013 Před 5 měsíci +4

    This movie would easily make $1 billion. My question is if it would make $2 billion. I would predict it would have one of the top 5 opening weekends of all-time.

  • @johnsalvi2273
    @johnsalvi2273 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I want to see Mega Man amd I can die in peace

  • @DountHead2533
    @DountHead2533 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What the heck would the story even be about? Hey. We gotta team up to fight this floating hand😂

    • @ryhanon7
      @ryhanon7 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Very true. To be fair though, Illumination has been very successful in making movies with the absolute thinnest of plots - so I don't doubt they can pull something off.

    • @TaylorKillzit
      @TaylorKillzit Před 5 měsíci +4

      Eh, you could easily personify the Master Hand where his gloves have that trademark look, uses magic and incorporates giant magic hand attacks. It's not that hard to turn it into a villain.

    • @gibransalazar7769
      @gibransalazar7769 Před 5 měsíci

      Taboo from Brawl

    • @batsaubattler3200
      @batsaubattler3200 Před 5 měsíci

      Sonic The Hedgehog Civil War against Super Mario

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci

      I think they should take the Avengers approach and use a character from one of the characters franchises. That way we get a villain with an actual personality

  • @jaysonwingo5925
    @jaysonwingo5925 Před 5 měsíci

    I think a Smash Bros. Movie could in fact work, but the execution would need to be really creative. Thing is, Smash Bros is a game that celebrates gaming, so what should the movie be about? I think that the main cast will be comprised of a select few Nintendo icons as well as a few hugely iconic movie characters. This movie should be about celebrating movies by finally seeing iconic characters duke it out for the first time.

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci

      The thing is that even though Smash Brothers is about fighting, you cannot make a movie where the characters are just fighting without narrative purpose. If you can’t even make write a story in a movie, you might as well just play the game instead.

    • @jaysonwingo5925
      @jaysonwingo5925 Před 4 měsíci

      @@juanluismendoza8655 I’m so glad you asked. You’re right when you say that it can’t be only about the fighting. But have you considered WHY they’re fighting? WHO’s the common enemy? It would be a pretty standard superhero movie type plot where the story is simplistic to make room for the action. Besides, the Smash Bros series does have original characters to pull ideas from. Like maybe Master and Crazy Hand are the ones pulling the strings, making these characters confront each other. This is why I said the execution would need to be creative.

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jaysonwingo5925 I think the best way to start shall be with a very small roster just like how the first Avengers movie had six heroes. Like that, they could focus more on character development and get the bases ready. Aside from that, that’s really good advice you just gave. 👌

    • @jaysonwingo5925
      @jaysonwingo5925 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@juanluismendoza8655 Not disagreeing with that at all. (That’s why I said there was only a few Nintendo icons in the mix.) But I think it would also just be really rad to see Mario take on Batman or Donkey Kong vs King Kong.

    • @juanluismendoza8655
      @juanluismendoza8655 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jaysonwingo5925 That’ll be rad indeed. 🤩

  • @StuntmanDanHemi
    @StuntmanDanHemi Před 5 měsíci

    I'm not a gamer at all, i haven't touched a console since 2014, but sometimes i feel like buying a nintendo just to play Smash Bros and only Smash Bros. I would watch the $hit out of a Smash Bros movie! 😂
    Also, there is already a fighting video game with horror movie characters. It is just like a Mortal Kombat with only horror icons, i forgot the name.

  • @rebelelite4973
    @rebelelite4973 Před 5 měsíci +1

    this is not like avengers its more like battle world where they fighting each other. this sounds good on paper but i dont think this will be good imo

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci

      Functionally a smash bros story mode is pretty much the same thing as the Avengers. Just look at the story mode from Brawl. Sure, you got some of the characters turning evil as a plot device to set up fights, but that actually happened in the original Avengers movie too with Hawkeye

  • @C-Bee
    @C-Bee Před 5 měsíci +2

    Would be interested but from illumination? Nah. They make good looking movies but the stories just aren’t great.

  • @klasusa2967
    @klasusa2967 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I don't buy the logic that Link (and by extension Zelda as a whole) is as unpopular as it's being suggested here. The Zelda series has literally never been more popular, with games selling in the 10s of millions of copies in the Switch generation.

    • @TaylorKillzit
      @TaylorKillzit Před 5 měsíci +3

      You can't trust John on videogame opinions. He's not even a casual gamer. He doesn't know much about the industry, videogame storytelling or these franchises. I would take his words with a wagon load of salt. Lol

    • @athorem
      @athorem Před 5 měsíci +1

      The crazy part is that Breath of the Wild outsold any of the 3D Mario games. Ever. Slowly reaching a point where Zelda is a bigger deal than Mario (though they never really figured out how to make Zelda spinoffs profitable)

  • @123bboymeandyou
    @123bboymeandyou Před 5 měsíci +2

    Oh wow surprised he doesn’t know that the movies would be targeting children, Mario did a billion imagine other characters kids would eat it up and it would make a billion easily especially is you add daisy and Zelda, he is way off haha

  • @sterlingarcher5698
    @sterlingarcher5698 Před 4 měsíci

    Called this when I watched Mario.
    Zelda
    Donkey Kong
    Metroid
    SMash it all together.
    Edit: i would love all the above movies....but I probably wouldnt enjoy Smash.

  • @ironfox4990
    @ironfox4990 Před 5 měsíci +1

    A super smash bros movie won't happen for a long time, and I bet that.

  • @jasonag619
    @jasonag619 Před 5 měsíci +1

    SMASH BROS………SUBSPACE

  • @kfizz
    @kfizz Před 5 měsíci

    I got it star fox are aliens, samus is from the future, link and everyone else is from other worlds.

  • @user-kx9xb7zm5g
    @user-kx9xb7zm5g Před 5 měsíci +4

    “This movie gonna make a billion dollars” Rey 😂
    I swear if he wasn’t John brother in-law he wouldn’t be working. His takes on news is very pandering like those clickbait channels.

  • @masoncastlehawk
    @masoncastlehawk Před 5 měsíci +2

    does john campea pay ray ora for his um contribution ?

  • @lumpar2002
    @lumpar2002 Před 5 měsíci

    Didn't Beyonce make Homecoming the movie first 🤔

    • @jaealxndr
      @jaealxndr Před 5 měsíci

      taylor sold more

    • @lumpar2002
      @lumpar2002 Před 5 měsíci

      Sure, but Beyonce was on the concert documentary train before Taylor is all I'm sayin. Taylor may even have been trying to copy Bey 🤷‍♂️

  • @jturner1758
    @jturner1758 Před 4 měsíci

    Kids love more nintendo, sonic and pokemon than superheroes and star wars. Even when I was kid, I wanted a super smash bros movie before a superhero team up. This movie could be dogshit and it will still financially succeed.

    • @Charles12
      @Charles12 Před 4 měsíci

      but why does it have to be dogshit? don't you kids want GOOD content of your favorite characters and not let the execs exploit it?

    • @xenophonanthony2791
      @xenophonanthony2791 Před měsícem

      @@Charles12Because Hollywood.

  • @jwallE93
    @jwallE93 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Not a billion dollar movie but a 700 million is still a good movie

  • @dulffysuzan6015
    @dulffysuzan6015 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Of you want to make great content, please dont ever mention Taylor Swift !

  • @adzari
    @adzari Před 5 měsíci

    A billion dollars movie with all the fan base wanting to watch? Ray, this didn't happen to Batman v Superman... unfortunately

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 Před 5 měsíci

    live action super smash Bros movie release date in 2024 today now yes yes yes yes yes 🤩🤩🤩🤩