Is a Smash Bros. Movie REALLY a Bad Idea?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- With the release of the Super Mario Bros. Movie, Sonic the Hedgehog's films, and Detective Pikachu, many are left speculating the practicality of a Super Smash Bros. Movie. Is it likely? Is it happening? How would it work? But most importantly, many are wondering if this should even happen in the first place. Let's discuss. Also if you liked this video, please remember to like and subscribe! #smashultimate #smashbros #mariomovie
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Table of Contents:
0:00 Introduction
0:45 What Makes Smash Special?
1:54 Why the Avengers Movies Worked
2:36 In the Context of Smash...
9:59 Conclusion
10:19 Outro
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A bad idea? I don't know how to answer that.
An expensive idea? Absolutley.
At best, it would probably be like a Rodger Rabbit or space jam scenario. You know? All these iconic characters together fighting a bad guy, but that’s about it.
Hopefully, they’ll put a lot of care into making films for their other IPs, rather than focus too much on a Smash Movie.
I don’t think a SSB movie would work like you said, but maybe a tv show. Like maybe 40 minute episodes on how the characters meet and then the season finale could be the characters fighting together against the big bad. (Master hand, tabu, ext.)
10:01 and for that exact reason of a super smash bros movie not working well is why i said that it could be a tv show. Not everything has to be a movie
@@SpeedingthroughRings Good idea.
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That actually sounds like a very good idea actually! Very clever thinking! :)
@@andreasmeelie1889 thanks 😊
There are just some games that don't work as movies, and sad as it is, Smash Bros is one of them.
Sadly it ain't happening
What about a tv show
@@ultrawariowarefan1431 That might work, but you'd have to jump thorugh a LOT of hoops to really justify all these franchises crossing over.
@@tonysonic456I think it will only work if it strictly focused on the franchises that started it all with kid icuras and xenoblade
@@ultrawariowarefan1431 Dude, Kid Icarus didn't show up until Brawl, and Xenoblade didn't even exist until half a decade later.
Here's an idea; don't have a SSB movie, have an animated show instead.
They don't tie to the movie continuities, but exist in their own bubble derived
straight off of Nintendo's ips. Versions of the characters which perhaps more so resemble their video game counter parts in some ways.
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I'm on the opposite side of this conversation
I don't want a Nintendo Cinematic Universe or a Smash Bros movie, I just want the Mario Movie to have sequels or/and spin-offs
when you started talking about the Lego movie, I thought of how all these historical figures, superheroes, country clubbers, and other Lego characters were all part of the Master Builders. They weren't very present in the movie, but they were all cool and funny to me. I literally didn't know who Dumbledore and Michelangelo were when I first saw the Lego movie, but it was still the best movie yet. It was fun to go back to the Lego movie after getting into Ninjago and spot the Green Ninja in the background. If they do a Smash Bros movie, it could be more like the Lego movie than endgame and they could just have fun with it.
I'm always kinda shocked whenever I hear people pitch this idea because... it just doesn't make sense. And you really hit the nail on the head WHY it just won't work.
People simply don't realize how much stuff they would have to squish and cut into two hours of film without it looking like an assemblament of cutscenes from the game.
Super Smash Bros. as movie: Naa!
Super Smash Bros. as a series: More pratical!
I'd love to see a smash bros movie, but only if they do it similar to the MCU Movies. By that I mean they should take it one movie at a time until they a big budget crossover movie.
I think they should start with Brawl first instead of Melee and 64 because master hand was the only villain in those games. Brawl would definitely fit as the original film because Sonic is there, not only that, it also shows Tabuu who controls Master Hand.
Here’s an idea, just have some sort of catastrophic event happen with Master and Crazy hand, causing all the universes to merge, eventually all of the characters meet up with the two diabolical hands and they hold a tournament that’s basically the Tournament of Power, where the fighters from each universe fight each other in a bracket set up, and each losing team has their universe erased by Crazy hand. The heroes are very weak compared to the two godlike hands, so they play along, and by the end they eventually fight the hands in a final destination like area, with the heavy hitters being Super Sonic and Superstar Mario. Eventually they win and use the Chaos Emeralds to restore the Multiverse back to normal, with them now knowing that there are other universes out there, and maybe, just maybe, they’ll see each other again.
Wow I guess this is less of an idea and more of the whole story😅.
I don't think a smash bros movie would be a bad idea, I just think it would be more difficult to create a good one than say the Avengers films.
Another thing you should cover. Should a smash bros movie be fully animated, live action, or a mix of cgi and animation?
Yes
1:10 Don't put me out there like that.😂
If SSB's lore is that it's just toys..just make it so that the movie isn't canon and mostly just fun with some character moments (heck just use the 64 characters if you want)
I don't think it can't work but as a serious series....yeah...
Interesting video. You’ve got pretty good point los tbh. But hey maybe there would be a twist to it lol
Well I mean I want a smash bros but for only Nintendo characters like avengers they didn’t have x men or fantastic four I was thinking having smash as part of the Nintendo cinematic universe
Can't wait for the Wii Fit movie to tie into the 2 parter Smash Wii U and 3DS movie.
No need for a cinematic universe.
It’s a popular idea, but not in a good way.
The characters being like toys in a movie. That would too much be like Toy Story wouldn't it?
Another thing, it would b impossible to do a Smash Bros. Movie because the movies u mentioned were not made by the same studio. Universal (Mario), Warner Bros. (Pikachu), and Paramount (Sonic).
Unless it would b successful enough to get a sequel.
I kinda feel like a live action version and detailed version of Sonic kinda wouldn't fit with a Cartoony illumination version of Mario.
I think some people don't understand that being in the same "universe" is not the same as being in the same "earth", like, a universe can have multiple galaxies, and every galaxy can have a different solar system or earth. so, it's like what peach said in the mario movie, multiple galaxies, they make every character being from a different galaxy in the same universe. would something like that concept be too complicated to explain to people in a cinematic universe? detective pikachu could crossover with mario well, i think the same goes for other nintendo ip movies, different art-styles is not an issue, spider-man across the spider-verse is getting different spider-man from different cartoons, games and even live action and it all fit well, although i don't think the sonic movies universe would work, because of how different it is from the rest of the Sonic franchise, it would probably be better to have another Sonic, hell is Sonic even needed? they could do multiple smash movies like avengers had, and why bringing guests in the first installment? that's my thoughs pretty much, great video!
We could have it like another Subspace emissary
i like that idea for it but i don't think it needs to be different characters as the movie versions are different from the game versions(lego movie was a blunt advertisement it's more it had fun with it's plot and even with the super mario bros. movie it's flaw asn't that huge as it had been years since a nintendo adaptation that wasn't pokemon.) and even super smash bros. forgot it's them being toys(and the easter eggs don't kill the possibility as there are ways they can explain past it.)
a super smash bros. movie could work as the mcu isn't perfect/even the avengers movies have a lot of problems as they get messy,a super smash bros. movie needs buildup as it wouldn't loose it's appeal as it could do the games justice as with team effort like what the games do.
my personal want for a super smash bros. movie would be a slow start with the series getting their own format(films,tv,anime,being a film series not putting it all in one film as the "only the popular ones" can't be used as an excuse as many of the marvel characters were even more unknown and nintendo should focus on adaptations for their series 1st.
It could work but it's gonna be trippy 😂🎉
When the new mic dropping?
There's one thing that no one seems to have considered: Having "Smash" be less of this whole "game characters battling together" and more of a general title to refer to crossover movies akin to "Avengers". As well as sticking to whatever game movies Nintendo DOES adapt. With any "Where's (insert missing character here)?" question being easily answered with "They don't have a movie, yet.".
I’d have to disagree with a point. While yes, I don’t think Mario could cross over to Zelda. But I can easily see sonic crossing over to the mushroom kingdom. Sonic has outlandish areas. There’s the whole ring portal thing and there’s mushroom hill. But I can see it being difficult when sonic humans are realistic and Mario not being realistic, so in that sense I feel that could really clash. So I can see sonic crossing over to Mario but not Vice versa
If the characters meet they could be like summon from master hand
I agree
I also thought maybe it could be similar to that episode crossover nexus’s
Smash Bros movie could be awesome...if done right
but what I want more is maybe a Mario and Sonic crossover film or more games then just the Olympics
also with both Mario and Sonic now having movies
I want a Crash Bandicoot movie to happen too
...I mean even Pac-Man is getting in on it
so why not Crash too...or even Rayman
I want a movie too :(
I mean Subspace Emissary already exists.
There actually is a way you could potentially flesh things out to the extent of the Smash games. And how would you pull that off, I hear you ask? Two words: cinematic universe.
I feel like a super smash bros movie could work, the thing that doesn't work about it is people wanting live action sonic and live action Pikachu to be part of it, I feel like super smash movie should have animated characters and not have some live actions characters and some animated one's be togather like movie sonic and movie mario
I actually think people think it wouldn't work well because they don't have realistic expectations in the first place. It seems to be that people wouldn't be able to appreciate it for what it is rather than it actually being a bad idea. Cause the video is very relevant, logical and clear to me, but I still don't see anything in it that would justify why it would be a bad idea.
Why not just have it like subspace emessary where they already exist in the same world?
OH HE MEANT *THIS* SOON
a ssb movie or show either would be cool
Its not going to be called NCU(Nintendo Cinematic Universe)
It should be called SCM(Smash Cinematic Multiverse)
A real Smash Bros movie would be insane, but I don't know how it could all piece together properly. This would be very expensive to make and the payoff would really have to be worth it for the film to profit from all the money that would've gone in. Like I've said before, video game movies aren't just made for fan service, but they're also made to be good. I think shoving in as many characters and locations as possible is just a setup for a confusing plot that nobody's going to enjoy following. I was told this before that the director of the Sonic Movies is interested in making a Smash Bros Movie, but I don't know how he'd get ahold of the Nintendo IPs considering Illumination already has Mario. I could see this possibly working, but I'm really confused just talking about it, if I'm being honest.
Would be nice ngl
I still want an NCU. We don't NEED a SMASH Bros movie, but we DO need multiple individual films:
SMB2
Donkey Kong Country
LOZ
Pokémon
Kirby
MAYBE Fire Emblem
Heck Pickman or Rabbids done by the studio that gave us minions could be pretty cool. 🤔
Anyway good points. I don't think a SMASH movie would be good, but if it WERE made I'd still be there opening day!😅
I don't think we need Pokémon movies, there's like more than 20 Pokémon movies already.
@@banjo9158 True, but if Nintendo did a Lumonation movie based off of Red people would still go see it.
I honestly wouldnt mind it
Maybe all of the realities character’s respective realities are actually simulations.
3:06 Counterpoint to Mario can't just waltz into Hyrule, MK8DX
I mean... just Subspace Emissary
To be honest, a smash bros movie could work this way:
● All the characters awake in astrange room, without any memory of how they got there, and then get to know each other;
● Master Hand appears and says that in order to be free they must fight, and the battle arenas that simulate their worlds.
● At some point someone notices what happens to the losers and convince the rest of the fighters to join forces against Master Hand
● After his defeat the fighters awake in ther respective worlds like it was all a dream, in a way that doesn't interfere with their stories and worlds.
At first the fighters from Mario, Sonic, Pikachu, and probably future Zelda, Metroid and Kirby movies would be the best starting point
I don’t think this is necessary a good or that fun of a story….plus it doesn’t really work with a 1 hour and a half film you gotta put a long fights to length the film which could get boring or nonsensical especially with how in a smash you are playing a game so it doesn’t have to make sense who wins however if you put sonic against base Mario you know what you know
That actually sounds dope!
@@Goomba1309 Thanks dude
A *LEGO* Super Smash Bros movie. But that's if Legos are still a popular toy brand in the foreseeable future. I only point that out for the sake of distinction between versions of the actual movies and this idea.
Nope, it would be a nice idea actually. :3
Thank You!
Totally. People are SO negative that's crazy.
Yes. Too many characters. It works as a game because the players are involved-as a movie, it would be convoluted, confusing, and boring.
A Captain N movie would make more sense than a Smash Bros movie.
yes. yes it is
6:50 Kirby isn’t as popular? Bull.
yes it is.
It’s the original 12 though not 8… u need to have the other 4
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I don't think it's bad, just very expensive
Imo, it’d work better as a TV show
Just make an original unrelated Nintendo crossover with no third parties.
hi sonicsta
To be honest, I definitely think that The Super Smash Bros. Movie isn't a bad idea. Since we already have Detective Pikachu (Ryan Reynolds), Sonic The Hedgehog (Ben Schwartz) and Mario (Chris Pratt), This might actually be the good time to choose the characters from the videogame version of The Super Smash Bros, I'll start first to pick:
. Crash Bandicoot
. Inkling (Splatoon)
. Kirby
. Fox McCloud
. Link
. Pac-Man
. Megaman
. Steve from Minecraft
. Banjo and Kazooie
. Springman
. Two icecave siblings
. Street fighter characters
. Sora
. Isabella
. Captain Falcon (Not The MCU version of Anthony Mackie's Captain American Falcon, The different Captain Falcon from the videogame)
. Cuphead
I don't think you're idea would work as well if they were all toys instead of the real ones.
Having Pit and Fox in Mario's universe isn't that hard even with the easter eggs, like Peach said, there's a bunch of world out there.
Also it wouldn't need that much set up if it's only the main characters from the first Smash.
Or some more sofisticated. Like: They start by fighting each other with the promise that the winner will be sent back in their world. Then some of them decide to screw up the game and join forces against the organizers of this battle royal/hunger game. Only to find out they are not the original characters but just magic clones, which was hinted from the beginning, since they were ported into this Smash World through replica statues brought to life and all the people they beated were turned into replica statues too, and there was no return to their world. So, after a moment of identity crisis like Buzz Lightyear in the first Toy Story, they decide to begin a new life together in this world, starting from bringing back to life all the opponents they beated, including the villains, because they need their power for the final battle... Of the first season!
With both heroes and villains in the same new world the sequel is unavoidable: The villains will join forces to take over the Smash World (Of course!), just to end backstabbing each other in the process, but not without forcing the heroes into a civil war.
@@HypercatZ I dunno about that since it'd make people who play Smash on par with people watching Squidgames / Hungergames.
Instead to make all the real characters meet without it being overwhelming, I'd first make a smaller scale cross over movie before Smash With Kirby Super Star or it could even be called Kirby Super Smash, by doing this we get a very fun first cross over antagonist with Marx, he could even trick the characters into fighting each other. So that when the first true Smash bro's movie happens a good chunk of characters will already know each other and we can focus more on the characters that weren't in Super Star.
After that we then get to Kirby 64 with new characters meeting up prepping for Melee's story, again another freaking sweet boss for everyone to fight.
So then by the time of Brawl, everyone basically knows everyone else or at the very least knows someone who knows someone else. And we have final bosses to the Smash stories that are memorable, iconic, and epic.
The easiest way to make a video game movie is to hire a team of people who love & respect the source material & are talented filmmakers in their own right.
With all the possibilities of how each movie would be done. It just won't work. Plus why watch a Smash Bros movie? Just go play the game and stop being a loser.
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Plus the movie will be weird with dialogue. And to have scenes where characters interact. And probably do other non Smash Bros stuff.
I believe a Super Smash Bros Movie can work, I just don't want them to rush making it. If Nintendo really wants to do this, they should start working slowly and plan things out if they want all their characters involved together.
Mario and Sonic can work, but not Smash Bros.
Honestly I think it's Super Smash Brothers movie could work. All you're saying about a cinematic Universe is because you've been lost it ever since the MCU has gone downhill. And for Sonic and Pikachu's design. They are just 3D models and in the reason why they are in CGI is because Paramount and Warner Bros have put a lot of effect on them so that they can just make them look like they're in real life. And it could work as a movie if all of Nintendo characters get a animated movie that had a good plot to make the video game characters heroes just like the Super Mario Bros movie. So I think the Super Smash Brothers movie will works
Ok
Yes.
Not even gonna watch this
"Super Smash Bros movie wouldn't work because it's mixing styles." Have you heard of a movie called Spiderman into the Spiderverse or another movie called Spiderman Across the Spiderverse. Those movies mix animation styles and still work.
Sony has a much more different animation style than dreamworks
I believe the illumination Mario movie was a really bad idea and it's all over that place as well as it's the same story about the Mario Bro origin but they just wanted to be fun but I didn't think it was funny it was just not interesting it was horrible awful film as well as it's the worst billion-dollar hit movie after The Lion King 2019.
Finally. Someone that agrees with me with the Mario movie. Thank you so much.
I forgive its faults ONCE. If it does it again, the movie franchise is a snore. No tension.
It's definitely not a bad idea, nowadays people criticize anything the majority likes, even an idea, just to feel special
It's an expensive idea
@@StevenJones851 Yeah, it sure is, it might even be unfeasible in the end, but it's definitely not a bad idea. A well-constructed universe sure could be made and studied, because even with a large cost the potential for profit is enormous due to the size of the franchise globally
It's really hard to get all the licenses though..
True except it can’t be the same to the movies already
@@Vitallor Yeah, agreed
I'd want a Zelda and Dk movie, then after that join Metroid and Star Fox and or F-Zero together. Then that's be enough set up for a Smash bros Movie with a health but not to large amount of characters with the main plot being Kirby Super star.
Oh yeah, no master hand or tabu the first time. The first main villain would be Marx, he'd also be tricking the other characters instead of the Sun and Moon into fighting.
Sounds pretty simple to me.
i would love a zelda movie tell me would you rather it be an original story or an adaptation of one of the games
@@jskywalker58 I dunno, but I'd like Link to have his Wind waker personally so he's less of a blank slate if they decide to keep him quite, and if he does talk it's not so jarring.
But if I had to choose, I'd go for a very loose still original rendition of Link to the past with tiny bits of other games mixed in like how they did the Mario Movie.
After that he'd join the Kirby ssb prequel having to fight Dinablade for some reason getting and tricked by Marx to fight Mario and the other Smash fighters, (Maybe a bit of Links awakening happens depending how the story goes)
Then either he could do another solo movie or cross over with someone else, then we get the real first ssb with Master Hand
Not to sure yet where I'd go from there but I'd have Majora's mask be the final solo story for the first Link.
From there, idk I've never even played a Zelda game , I'm surprised I even got this far.
I would want a DK movie, a Kirby movie, Star Fox movie, Metroid Movie, F-zero movie, Punch-out Movie and Kid Icarus movie, and Zelda, Mother and Fire emblem, because of both franchises having too much lore, i think it would be better for them to get a TV show, it worked well for the last of us. 11 projects, and they crossover in a smash movie, Pokémon doesn't even need anything, there's already a lot of movies, just throw any Pokémon continuity there and it's done, it could be even detective pikachu.