Is the debate too long? Skip to 31:40 for the gist of it. A quick recap. Edip believes the following: - anyone can come up with his own recitation based on dotless manuscripts - Allah's ﷻ wanted people to come up with their own recitations - the actual reciters of the Quran are unreliable - we cannot accept that the reciters of the Quran actually read in the way that we know they read - we cannot rely on the recitations of the reciters even if they all agree on a recitation - the Umayyad empire played a role in creating recitations for political gain - Edip wrote his translation of the Quran based on Hafs' recitation In brief, Edip, arguably the most well-known Quran-only scholar, doesn't believe that the Quran was preserved. One point I didn't address in our talk was that the reciters, even when differing, weren't making mistakes, but were reciting in the way that they were taught to recite since the Quran was revealed in seven modes. Please refer to the video below for more on the subject. czcams.com/video/K11XfOfTFAU/video.html
Brothers and sisters never forget our oppressed brothers and sisters in your dua and raise awareness for them specially the uyghur brothers and sisters. Our brothers in kashmir are also in great pain. Remember dua is the biggest strength of a believer. Our beloved prophet(sm) said ,'‘Whoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; if he is unable to, then with his tongue; if he is unable, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith.’' Narrated by Muslim in his saheeh
@@P_Pro27 : You’re an atheist. That makes you fundamentally nihilistic and irrational. This is why you are so seething with rage, as you have no identity nor purpose in life.
I honestly struggled to not be distracted by that, as my mind kept wandering away from the topic to the more pressing question, "why is Farid's icon a kitten sandwich?"
hey you need to know this. LIST OF INNOVATIONS AFTER THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD: HERE IS A SHORT LIST OF TEACHINGS INVENTED BY PAGANS THAT ALLAH DID NOT REVEALED IN HIS QURAN HIS FURQUAN BECAUSE THEY ARE FALSE AND PAGANS. 1.- the christian jesus coming from heaven 2.- jesus being now in heaven 3.- jesus being alive in heaven 4.- jesus being the leader of the world for a time 5.- jesus ascending to heaven 6.- jesus descending from heaven to damascus 7.- jesus visiting Mecca 8.- jesus and his fabricated persian pal the madhi coming to fight with the mythological christian creature the antichrist 9.- female circumcision 10.- Prophet Muhammmad ( saw) being descendant of Abraham or Ishmael 11.- Arabs being descendant of Abraham 12.- killing dogs and loving cats , Dogs are highly defended in Quran 13.- Music as haram 14.- follow hadiths 15.- follow the fabrications of Sunni madhhabs or shia 16.- Praying 5 times a day ( this is taken by sunnis from zoroastrians, it wasn´t a teaching of Rasulullah ) 17.- stoning to death is not in Quran, this from judaism copied by sunnis who love the jews 18.- Punishing in the grave and all that nonsenses 19.- Soul being alive after death 20.-Prohibition of perfumes 21.-Prohibition of dressing well 22.- Quran being abrogated, this is an insult to Allah who sent the Quran as guidance. 23.- women and daughters not permitted to study 24.- women being in home only. 25.- Women who has not sex with their husbands go to hell 26.- women testimony is half of a man. 27.- women must not work, but stay at home says sunnah of sahib lie of bukhary 28.- kabbah speaking in the day of judgment 29.- drinking camel urine 30.- defecating and using 3 stones 31.- Mary the mother of jesus being the wife of the Prophet Muhammad 32.- Aisha being the best lady 33.- Following caliphs instead of Quran 34.- niqab, burka ! not mentioned in Quran, because it is from pagans. 35.- male circumcision is from judaims copied by sunnis 36.- compulsory or obligatory to be Wearing long beard like jews or hindus 37.-Love arabs 38.- the dead listening to the living people. 39.- women must not pray when they have menses 40.- do not masturbate 41.-praying tashahhud in the prayers. 42.- suckling the breast of adult women for being you know what. 43.- the flood in time of noah being worldwide . ( Quran says it was noah`s town only !) 44.- The Beating of Children Who Stop Praying 45.- Women must not rule a contry 46.- women lack INTELLIGENCE AND RELIGION. 47.- you must not play chess 48.- you must not play dice. 49.- Prophet Muhammad (saw) being a prophet since he was kid 50.- Urine of the prophet being the best drink 51.- the sweating of the prophet Muhammad (saw) being a perfume 52.- Prophet Muhammad being a healer or a performer of miracles, he was just a man ! 53.- do not practice oral sex with your wife says sunni innovators imitating christians monks 54.- Satan urinated in people’s ears. 55.- stupid teaching attributted to Rasulullah like this: Angels do not enter a house witch has either a dog or a picture in it. 56.- fevers were caused by the heat of hellfire 57.- sunni sharia being observed by monkeys 58.- Moses kicking an angel of death, THIS IS FROM JEWS copied by sunni scholars 59.- Menses being impurity 60.- Moses fighting with a stone, this is similar to jesus talking with stones. 61.- Humans being in the image of Allah, this was fabricated by the jew abu hurayra from genesis myths 62.- Adam being so giant ! this is from judaims narrated by the lovely abu hurayra the jew 63.- Aisha being the most important to the Prophet. Sunni lovers of Aisha fabricated this. 64.- dajjals and all this fairy christian mythology from christian scriptures is not in Quran 65.- The Killing of People Who Do Not Give Alms 66.- The Imprisonment and Starvation of Those Who Do Not Fast and the list could go on !!!! here are some contradictions of the innovation and likes of mabhabs Is it obligatory to perform the intention to fast in Ramadan for each day separately? Yes HANAFI no MALIKI yes SHAFI’I no HANBALI Does talking inadvertently during prayer invalidate the prayer? Yes HANAFI No MALIKI No SHAFI Yes HANBALI Is it compulsory to perform ablution in a given order? No HANAFI No MALIKI Yes SHAFI Yes HANBALI Are dogs impure? No HANAFI No MALIKI Yes SHAFII Yes HANBALI AND THIS LIST IS LONG ! i do not have time to write all these sunni nonsenses fabricated. BETTER FOLLOW QURAN AND BE HAPPY. FOLLOW THE QURAN THE GUIDANCE OF ALLAH QURAN 1: 1-2, QURAN 25:29-30 ALL THE FALSEHOODS YOU SAW ARE NOT IN QURAN BECAUSE THEY ARE FALSEHOODS ATTRIBUTED TO ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET, THAT IS WHY THAT RUBBISH IS NOT IN THE HOLY QURAN. READ........QURAN 41:41-42
@@MuhammadSalman7236 i laugh at your sunni sect and leaders and their innovations 🤣 QURAN 9:31. THE TRUE ISLAM IS ONLY THE QURAN AND QURAN IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF TRUE ISLAM
Quran talks about multiple revelations preserved: Quran 6 An'aam 89 - They are those whom *We gave the Book, Al-Hukm (understanding of the religious laws), and Prophethood. But if these disbelieve therein (the Book, Al-Hukm and Prophethood), then, indeed We have entrusted* it to a people (such as the Companions of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) who are not disbelievers therein. Quran 3 : 48 - **And He (Allah) will teach him [('Îsa (Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, wisdom), (and) the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).** - Jesus will follow Quran and Sunna upon his return! Surat al-Baqara 2 :129 - *Lord, raise up from among them a Messenger who shall recite Your Revelations to them and teach them the Book الْكِتَابَ and Wisdom الْحِكْمَةَ and purify their lives.* You art All-Powerful and All-Wise" An-Nissa' 4 :113 - Allah has sent down the Book and the Wisdom ... Surat al-Ahzaab 33 :34 - And remember what is recited in your houses of the verses of Allah آيَاتِ اللَّهِ and wisdom الْحِكْمَةِ. Surat al Jumu'a 62:2 - He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) from among themselves, *reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Qur'an, Islamic laws and Islamic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah* (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم). And verily, they had been before in manifest error; Quran 2 : 143 - where was the previous qiblah mentioned? - In hadiths!
I'm 5mins in and I already find contradiction in what he is saying. Example: At the beginning, he says Hadith can not be trusted because it is passed on by man and there are contradiction, so on and so on... At the same time he quotes history (Romans and Byzantine) in his argument as though it isn't passed on by man. 😂😂😂 I have a feeling a lot more nonsense are coming...
Passing a hadith from man to man is different than documenting a historical event for example my grandpa could tell me that his best friend said that he doesn't like rice where as in reality he actually did like rice on the other hand my grandpa could tell me about a war he was in and which side won here I can easily research wether it's true or not as many different nations and sources have objected and witnessed this event
@@Samir-dz3np I hope you are not saying what I think you are saying (That hadith can not be trusted) because I can destroy your argument with ease right now. Please tell me that is not the case.
but isnt hadith also like a documentation?...even when we look at historical events....we cant rely on exactly all the facts since they might ve biased..🤷♀️..after all, wtever research u r doing..u r referring to things written or documented by people...and hadith is not just passing man to man...many svholars verify it and classify it as weak or strong as well....so...hadith and historical documentation sounds similar to me..🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@PEACEWITHIN114 I personally am not a hadith rejector entirely I simply wanted to clear up things but since you got me interested Id like to know what argument you want to "destroy" as I haven't presented any argument for that matter?
@Luqmaan Rashid Science comes from our brains which is given from God. However hadith-followers gave up on that by following fiction books next to the Quran, known as hadiths.
@@Irshaad1337 if science studies in the future had develop different from our understanding nowadays, will your so called 'science' can be consider as fictional. Do remember, 'the fiction book' that you accused, by your understanding is also come from the brain at that time.
@@yobkk1192 Nope, science is nothing more then fact-finding, statements backed up with evidence and research. hadiths doesn't have any of it and it's just pure "hearsays".
@@Irshaad1337 fact finding, evidence, research that confine only among what is observable through your limited time and sight. Changes every 100 years, that may infact make your theory right now, fictitious in the future. Compare to the truth of the whole universe, your research is miniscule and can be regarded as insignificant.
@@ercanozdemir6956Stop with backhanded comments your the misguided ones Wallahi all most all of you guys are kaffir you sit around and don’t even recite the shahada
'I dont care about the qira'at, I read without marks, I dont care about those 10 men who cares' 10 seconds later 'I used Hafs 'an 'Aasim for my translation that I published.' pure genius
Edip Yuksel is part of the Kemalist education system. He has an issue with beards, the thobe, political Islam. He is a munafiq, hes a terrible debater and makes points that are absurd.
dajjal, jesus`s return, torment of the grave, mahdi, jesus going to heaven, 5 daily prayers, prophet Muhammad going to heaven, Quran being eternal with Allah etc etc are fabrications. Only Quran must be followed. one enemy of ALLAH CLAIMING AND SHOUTING THE PHRASE....defend your QURAN, DEFEND YOUR QURAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MINUTE QURAN 32: 53 this exposes these false people OF ALHUL SUNNA SECT , the sunni sect rejects Quran, abrogates Quran etc etc, attacking Quran of Allah for their rubbish called sunnah from the sahib lie bukary and sahib lie of muslim and abu dawud etc ! THESE PEOPLE REJECT QURAN FOR A FABRICATED SUNNAH written 290 years after the Prophet. ( QURAN 25:29-30) ( QURAN 2: 1-2)
I once asked a hadith rejector about how he knows the Quran is preserved. He then goes ahead and quoutes hadiths on how the Quran was collected and copied. When i pointed out to him, that he is now quouting hadiths, he tried to convince me that it was not from hadith, it is from history. And no matter how much i pointed out to him, that the history book he obviously had read on the subject got it from hadiths, he refused to listen to me.
They follow their desires no matter what, if it wasn't haddith rejection I'd be complete atheism, cause they deeply want to make the halal Haram and the Haram halal but they're too spineless to admit they've left Islam
[6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law when He has brought down to you this book fully detailed? Those whom We gave the Scripture know that it has been brought down from your Lord with the truth. You shall not be among those who doubt. Hadith-followers = shirk. They will burn in hell
How does this anyhow have to do with "kurdish ideologies" I lived in turkey and from what Ive seen kurds were the most god fearing and pious muslims in the country whereas turkish people fell into adultery and idolatry
Mr. Edip Yuksel, this guy was the first Quranist that I started listening to. I was a bit confused back then about some things he was talking about and couldn’t agree with him because it would have meant that all I was following was full of lies. But now, many years later I did my own research and I have to say, this man is a legend! I’ve been living following Quran only for the last few years. It’s difficult and feels lonely most of the time, but it’s worth it! Love this guy’s work!
@@OmgMustafa I don't think I said there are more than one Quran,but I'm pretty sure you didn't read the verses i mentioned or simply chose to ignore them. I'm not gonna fight you any longer,only time will tell.
Whoever obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah [Al-Qur'an 4:79] You have a good model in the Messenger of Allah for one who hopes for Allah and the Last Day. [Al-Qur'an 33:21] Do you, then, believe in some parts of the Book, and disbelieve in others? So, what can be the punishment of those among you who do that, except disgrace in present life? And, on the Day of Judgement, they shall be turned to the most severe punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. [Al-Qur'an 2:85] The verses are clear. Anyone who refuses to accept them is responsible for himself and will receive his recompense on the day of judgement. Quranists are only following their whims and desires and want to copy the way of life of the western colonisers
The final words this "scholar" said really bothered me. 33:03 to 33:10 "I cannot (somethingsomething) against those who close their eyes. I cannot show the light." Hey Edip, Islam is not Christianity. Only Allah SWT guides those who are sincere to Him towards the Truth. Based on this video, it evidentally shows that you aren't.
As Farid said, if everyone followed his methodology of changing the recitation of Qur'an, there would be way more ikhtilaf in the Ummah, which ironically they blame on ahadith.
You misheard what Edip said. He didn’t say he follows his whims. Rather, he said he follows any recitation that, when applied to entirely of the Quran, doesn’t lead to internal errors within the words of the Quran. Remember, chapter 2, verse 2: “that is the book, no doubt in it, a guidance for almuttaqeen”. Therefore, if a particular recitation of the Quran would lead to meanings of Arabic words that produce an internal error within the text of Quran, then according “that is the book, no doubt in it” is false, and therefore, not the original recitation. However, if any recitation that does not lead to internal errors within the text of the Quran, as said, is okay, since they demonstrate that “that is the book, no doubt in it” is true. Now, I’ve only looked at five of ten Qira’aat, of them being Hafs and Warsh, they all have the same diacritical markings for chapter 2, verse 2. If the latter five Qira’aat have the same marking as well, then: “that is the book, no doubt in it, a guidance for almuttaqeen” is the criterion or standard for discerning which recitation will demonstrate that verse to be true or false; and those that demonstrate the verse to be false, then, can be disregarded as not reliable recitations. All it takes is for one internal error to be found to demonstrate verse 2 to be false, since it claims that there is no internal doubt or uncertainties in the words of the book or Quran.
@@Lightbulb909 what you will say about this verse (3:7) It is He Who has revealed the Book to you. Some of its verses are absolutely clear and lucid, and these are the core of the Book.5 Others are ambiguous.6 Those in whose hearts there is perversity, always go about the part which is ambiguous, seeking mischief and seeking to arrive at its meaning arbitrarily, although none knows their true meaning except Allah. On the contrary, those firmly rooted in knowledge say: ‘We believe in it; it is all from our Lord alone.’7 this is what Quranist do , They interpret those verses as per their desire , Like Jins , Hoor , How to perform Salat, Fasting , how to perform Hajj , If ALLAH SWT was meant to reveal Only Quran then every single detail would have been in Quran But ALLAH SWT did not put burden upon Muslims to remember such a huge Book and ALLAH SWT revealed this book upon Prophet Muhammad pbuh who taught us this Quran So whenever you will interpret Quran as per your desire you will go astray as this verse said , Companions R.A did not even interpret as per their own desires
@@rajababy2009 What does it mean to follow one’s own desires? To do so, is to approach the text with preconceptions and ideas that one prefers, and argue that is what the text is saying, and bending the text in every which way to demonstrate that this interpretation is the only possible meaning. How do you know that you are not doing thus from your own desires? You desire that the Hadith and Sunnah must be supported by the Quran so that its validity it strong and that it is reliable. So, when other people interpret a verse, and this interpretation is one you have not heard, you dismiss such interpretation because it goes against the desire that Hadith and Sunnah are supported by the Quran. Do you see how weak of an objection it is to say to someone: “you following your own desires”? Literally, any Muslim that has his own preconceptions about the Quran hurls this objection at another Muslim with a different preconception about the Quran. Instead of trying to see if an interpretation holds any water, it’s so much easier to accuse one of following their own desire when interpreting the text.
That's like saying if everyone spoke English differently there'd be different languages. Of course, people do speak English differently, there's British English, Canadian English, American English, New Zealand English Australian English South Africa etc etc. Yet it's all English and the meaning of the words is exactly the same in every dialect (excepting slang). Would speaking English differently over a SUPER long period of time mean different languages? probably, but that's a different argument. A difference in recitation or pronunciation does not mean a difference in meaning.
@@kangzosa there is difference between the book of ALLAH SWT and a language . ALLAH SWT words cant be change and language can be evolved no Problem but to Preserve Quran we need to stick to the basics which is the recitation of Prophet Muhammad pbuh and His companions
exactly! He says "The umayyads did this and the umayyads did that" but hold on a second... where did you get that from? he uses history (history that is not nearly as well preserved as the hadith) and builds here on what he wants to believe. he only goes according to his desires...
@@ISAiah.42 this topic goes only back to: is there a God. If we answer it with yes, there is no issue here. Allah can provide him with a horse that brings him to his throne. Allah could have teleported him up to himself but he chose the former and it is on him to know why he did it! If you want to make a point, try to be coherent and try to critique the main issue and not unnecessary ones! judging by your name, you are a christian. you believe that God died.... you see? this is the kind of argument you present!
@@ISAiah.42, If you are a Quranist then you insult the Quran by mocking the communication of ants If you are a christian then you mock the Bible by mocking it If you are atheist then you are going against scientific fact that ants do indeed communicate with one another
As a Turk, I feel great shame knowing people like this, that apostate, and the many Sufis exist. Alhamdulillah that I was guided away from that, and may Allah continue to guide all of us.
@Tim As a Turk, you should be ashamed of being Muslim in the first place. Your people are far better than the sticking concoctions of Arabs and Persians in the distant past.
@@paulthomas281 - Amazing how you have nothing better to do. Islam has nothing to with ethnicity, might want to go learn more and choose who you gaslight more carefully. As it stands, you are nothing but a devil.
@@paulthomas281 You pagans don't know about Islam. Islam has nothing to do with ethnicity. Im a Bengali and A Muslim. There are Muslims who are Arabs, Turks, persians, Pasthoons, Israelites, Pakistanis, Malaysians, Indonesians Etc. So Islam is not about race. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is for Everyone.
@@doctorsnuggles3299 - They're not necessarily like this guy. Sufis have a wide range. The best of them do not pay too much to the Sunnah and are innovators, the worst of them commit shirk and still claim to be Muslim.
The question should not be how does one pray but how does one does good actions and corret obligation with parents, spouse, orphans, the neighboor, the friend.. Physical moviments parroting the quran is nonsense... Quran is to be studied and implemented.. is spiritual guidance for humanity not a yoga manual for arabia
Yeah. According to him , he's come over a millennium later and has found the perfect Qur'an which no one else did. I don't know if that's brainwashing, arrogance, ignorance. Or any other word that could apply here.
These people talk about the proper recitation of the Qur'an, yet, they can not talk among each other in respect to their rights and does not even waiting the other side to finish his argument. And you think that these people will lead Muslims to the future of victory? Yeah! Right! Why not? They know Islam so well that, if Muhammad would have been alive now, they would have taught about the hadeeth to him, because, you are teaching your religion to Allah already.
@@squidguard4743 The flying donkey like creature is also mentioned in prophecies of Hinduism that resonate with the revelation of the Quran. To be honest, God knows best but it's funny people judge so fast about things, guessing at the unseen, and try to disprove the unseen with no proof. The future is from the unseen, and if you told stuff we experience now, or tech we have, to people of the past, it would be their "flying donkey" and they would ridicule you. "I use a luminous box to communicate to people from China in real time, and i can know what they are seeing using this method" They would think i'm going crazy or that i'm a divinator... but i'm only using a phone or a pc... That's the issue with "reason is king" ideology, i agree to a degree, there are hadiths talking about people not reasoning being the cause of death of a companion and it being bad... so yeah, but we can't be extremists... Allah knows best. We live in a Dajjalic era it seems. But I want to be fair, because the j3ws who killed the prophets probably argued the same, i don't want to be like them, but i don't want to be dajjalized either lol...
These men are acting like children. This gentleman has Obviously sacrificed more time and done more actual work than all of them combined. Yet they constantly interrupt and ( in the beginning) attempt to belittle him instead of giving him his due respect. Still, he plows through them . Also I find it interesting that the most vocal CZcams stars are suddenly silent.
The guy is totally lost... It seems these days there are many people who call themselves Muslims who are totally lost. May Allah guide all the lost Muslims.
@@ThanaVu This is part of the Sunnah and the Quran tells us to follow the example of the Messenger of Allah. If kissing a stone is pagan then kissing wife and children makes the person a pagan too.
@@abdelhak943 Here comes another hadith-believer, who, if they were born in a hindu-family, would be a devoted hindu-believer. That is truth of hadith-muslims. They follow their scholars and family only because they were born among them. Weak.
Arent you just following your desires ? It is easier to worship a fellow human being than a God that you cannot see. You are just taking the easy way by following hadiths. Forsaking God and his book. Following a human being that died more than thousand years ago. And not even that, the hadiths are fake, the prophet never said such things. Which is why they were only able to create it 300 years after the prophet's dead. It is pathetic.
@@Irshaad1337 1 thing I noticed about hadith rejectors, across them all, is their extreme lack of Islamic knowledge. "Which is why they were only able to create it 300 years after the prophet's dead. It is pathetic." We are just going to act like the Muatta of Imam Malik didnt exist, which was less than 100 years after the death of RasulAllah(saw). Please do yourslef the favor, before taking about hadith, and its transmittion, just learn about it a little.
@@Irshaad1337 Alhamdulliah I try to read the Quran everyday. I appericate the advice. But to say hadiths came 300+ years after the Prophet is just foolosh, and gave away the clear indicator that you have 0 knowledge about hadiths. But that's what all haidht rejectors have in commin. Lack of Islamic knowledge
@@liby254 The academics and even your hadith-scholars admitted the hadiths came 300 years after the prophet. If you title me as a "hadith-rejector" than I will title you as a "Traitor of the Quran". You commited shirk by following a fiction-based Prophet from the hadiths comparable to the jews who created a golden calf to worship as a substitute of God.
Short background of Edip Yüksel: He is from Turkey and quite "famous" at the reformists corner. (I sincerely apologize...) His father was a big sunni scholar and rejected him openly of being a murtad. Oh and he follows an indian guy claiming to be the last prophet. So there is more to it than just rejecting hadiths. There even is a video of hım making weird moves as his interpretation of salah in middle of a masjid...
I feel sad for them. Such a contradictory belief to hold on. Saddest part it is they are on the edge of heresy even in their own terms (rejecting Qur'an).
He HAS to change history, islamic teaching and even the Quran itself to justify his ideology. He has no chose but to change them, may Allah guide him to the straight path, he is off the rails.
The ending was sooo disappointing and funny at the same time. He seemed very confident and i was actually waiting for a strong argument from him for half an hour. And then Farid pushes him a bit and he leaves LOL comical and disappointing
These guys speak as if before the Quran and the Prophet , no-one recited Arabic verses. The Quran was revealed in the tongue of the Arabs and therefore how the verses were to be recited were already known to the people. The interviewers are trying to impose their false notion of the Prophet , Sahabas and imams as the only teachers of recitation and questioning him with it. There is nothing in the Quran that says 7 recitations were revealed. So questioning him over this false idea is nonsensical. The interviewers should first prove their point first
Why does no one just end this guys with the verse (اطيعوا الله واطيعوا الرسول) How would they ever obey the prophets saying if they don't believe in hadith
Because we would answer: Obey the messenger means obeying the message of the messenger. And the message is the Quran. And not the hadiths. If God wanted us to follow Muhammad himself, it would have said "Muhammad" but instead it said the "messenger". And the message of the messenger is the Quran. And yes you can call me a hadith-rejector while I will call you a hadith-muslim, the ones who have betrayed the Quran. You will feel hellfire at day of judgement when you continue this godless path. You are committing shirk. Be warned. Worshipping the person of Muhammad = shirk. Hadiths = shirk.
On the issue of 'understand as you please,' being able to see contradictions requires a certain sense of consistency, objectivity and honesty, a certain level of knowledge. He seems dishonest because he is relying on narrations (recitations and ahadeeth) when he chooses and discards them inconsistently/randomly. He could not have understood anything he considers knowledge without the very thing he believes as valueless. He has more evidence in favor of what he rejects than he does in favor of his position against it
He doesn’t use Hadith a premise of truth to refute Hadith. Instead, he used Hadith to point out that it is self-refuted. In other words, there are Hadith that contradict other Hadith.
As a Turkish I feel ashamed because of Edip. And it is not surprising us when we look at his background... His Family denied him for years and his brother himself on an discussion program denied him.. May Allah give him and us Hidayah...
I am sure you Turkish people have much more other matters to be ashamed for. Understand that believing in God is bigger than being in the grace of your family. Otherwise the prophet would have never accepted the Quran revelations as his family refused to do so. Shame on you that you can not even comprehend this. Satan has made you blind.
This entire topic is a false dichotomy. On one end you have people who reject everything outside of the Quran and want to reinterpret it, and on the other end you have people who put man made history books at the same level as the divine book, some of the extremists of the later even put the hadith above the Quran. Both sides are in complete disagreement with each other, no one considers the middle ground.
They believe it was man who preserved the Quran, and therefore take the Deen that they prescribed in their man narrated books. THE real believers know Allah preserves the Quran and take their a Deen through The word of Allah!
Can any of them just stick to a point and dont let him go around in circles and chase him in million different directions? I severely appreciate patience of brothers discussing with him
Farid where can I see images of manuscripts, of classical Islamic works, for example, anything from imam ahmed.. I just want to see how they wrote them and stuff.
it's so absirdt that this hadith rejector goes on to say that we don't need history,what do we have to do by knowing history,i mean it's so pathetic because the quran itself dwells into the history and the stories of the past ,as knowing history is what makes a flourish
@@finalfrontier001 what you're saying nonsensical,quran is preserved by allah ,but that doesn't mean allah will himself come and do something, it simply implies that allah will preserve quran through the pious people,and that has been done , that's our aqida that the quran we have today ,(all the qiraats ),are the same which was sent down to the prophet
Regardless of recitation the correct meaning of words in the Quran is important for understanding the words of God. The argument of recitation is completely irrelevant. Than they switched to about how to pray. Salat is not the ritual pray that we need to look detailed in some other sources. The meaning of salat is in the Quran . It means to follow closely. Very simple. God is the teacher of the Quran. We all need study the Quran as much as possible
Honestly, i think that's an L on the translators, or interpreters. I believe the preserved recitations by tradition do have a value, Allah knows best of course. It is said, by their fruits you shall know them. If it sounds cool, but then it produces chaos, i am then unsure if they are on the right path. I'm tempted tbh, because i like certainty, but at the same time I don't know if their assumptions are true. Because the 19 code is one thing, but other stuff in my opinion they are assuming it. And the Quran warns us about twisting the tongues. 3:7 هُوَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ مِنْهُ ءَايَـٰتٌۭ مُّحْكَمَـٰتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَـٰبِهَـٰتٌۭ ۖ فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ فِى قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌۭ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَـٰبَهَ مِنْهُ ٱبْتِغَآءَ ٱلْفِتْنَةِ وَٱبْتِغَآءَ تَأْوِيلِهِۦ ۗ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُۥٓ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ ۗ وَٱلرَّٰسِخُونَ فِى ٱلْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ ءَامَنَّا بِهِۦ كُلٌّۭ مِّنْ عِندِ رَبِّنَا ۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّآ أُو۟لُوا۟ ٱلْأَلْبَـٰبِ ٧ He is the One Who has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book, of which some verses are precise-they are the foundation of the Book-while others are elusive. Those with deviant hearts follow the elusive verses seeking ˹to spread˺ doubt through their ˹false˺ interpretations-but none grasps their ˹full˺ meaning except Allah. As for those well-grounded in knowledge, they say, “We believe in this ˹Quran˺-it is all from our Lord.” But none will be mindful ˹of this˺ except people of reason. - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran Of course, some may disagree, but if you pay attention my brother, you will see that this is exactly what lead to the corruption of Christianity, they strated reading the verses with their own desires/intellect, the issue with that is that people tend to seek philosofy, greek philosofy made up the trinity. And this person, the scholar of Quran only, he also relies in philosofy, as others do. The issue is that philosofy is man made, full of errors. I reverted to Islam because i got myself totally lost by hearing humans for moral advice. Why then would i revert to that, if I can read whatever and stretch the Quran to fit my desires, even if i tell myself i'm being honest, i don't think that's the right way. Allah knows, and we don't. I'm just saying my thinking right now, it may change. I only pray Allah subhana wa taala forgives our mistakes in any case. I don't want division in the umman, and i respect truth seekers, and i'm sure they got some good idea, but if one pays attention to more traditional scholars many also get to the same conclusions, without the need to go all to an extreme, Allahu 3alam. Perhaps we should hear some good scholars, I mean i'm unsure, but Ali Ataie is quite cool, he has also some weird opinion, he's more into Bible as a Muslim so he may be tempted to legitimize that more, Allahu 3alam. Appart from him i'm still researching good scholars who actually are more into Quran... one interesting point is the multiple readings of the Quran, i believe there is that, but as I said extremism may lead you astray even if the concept is true in principle... May Allah guide us all.
So simple and clear. sura 45:6 These are Allah’s revelations which We recite to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth. So what hadith will they believe in after ˹denying˺ Allah and His revelations? sura 77:50 So what hadith after this ˹Quran˺ would they believe in? sura 7:3 Follow what has been sent down to you from your Lord, and do not take others as guardians besides Him. How seldom are you mindful! I think sura 2:170 fits exactly to the hadith believers. They believe what their forefathers believe. More clarity is no longer necessary. sura 2:170 When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance?
Edip has bigger problems than being a “Just Quran” guy. He’s has adopted an indoctrination called the “Miracle of the 19” which was set forth by the infamous Rashad Khalifa who is mostly famous for his claim that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the final rasul but not the final nabi. He also claimed he was a nabi himself. Edip is a strict follower of him (you can find his videos that he claims he believes Khalifa is a nabi) and unfortunately that’s not he bulk of it; these people of the “Miracle of the 19” cult believe that all the verses in the Quran is somehow correlated with number the 19 in a mathematical way, except the last two verses of the Surah Tawbah. So, they reject those last 2 verses and claim that these were included in the Quran afterwards, hence they are fabricated. These people are blatantly infidels. The worst part is, because this cult’s followers are not well educated on how math works, their methodology purely sucks and doesn’t add up. There’s a Turkish mathematician who is at the same time a scholar of Islam. He debated with Edip solely on this “Miracle of the 19” issue and annihilated him on his false claims. That’s an almost 3 hours long video and only in Turkish, so I’m not gonna share here unless any of you ask for it.
Because it is not from the prophet and because the Quran says to only follow Quran. History is totally something else. Islam is religion and history is just history.
My guy said he used to be a Sunni scholar... 😂 What a load of BS. Real talk, if he was a real Sunni scholar, he would've legit given my brothers Farid and them some difficulty. There was absolutely 0 reason to believe he was a Sunni scholar. Plus I want to know where he got his ijaza from. 😂
This guy should understand the importance of Hadith if he’s “expert” in Quran. In Al-Emran 3: 48 Allah said: وَيُعَلِّمُهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ (48) This is the verse regarding Allah teaches Esa peace upon him literacy, knowledge Torah, the Injeel and given him "الحكمة" here is the sunnah of Essa (Jesus) peace upon him, it means prophets had sunnah as well prophet Muhammad peace upon him and that’s also part of religion that Allah demands us to follow. This guy should realized it if he only read Quran🤦🏽♂️
@NO NAME then tell me how you can pray step by step using Quran alone? Do the pilgrimage step by step? How do we calculate the amount of zakat? It’s you who don’t value prophet Muhammad’s teaching. Look at your Islam way is must be filled with holes and confusing questions if you don’t believe in the accepted Hadith.
@NO NAME On what basis you made that claim? From your head or in Quran? If so, THEN SHOW ME Step-by-step using the Quran!! Where in Quran? And how many reka’a each prayer? How many times you pray in a day? All using Quran only
@NO NAME Muslims pray 5 times a day, 1 in the morning (fajer), twice in afternoon (dhuher+Asher) and third time (mugreb+esha), the Hadith MATCHES the Quran timing exactly. You said Islam is dead, when it was dead? Give me a time period. How come Muslims pray after prophet Muhammad passed away? Imagine your in first century of Islam, how did Muslims pray? Using Quran only? You can not use Quran alone. If you claim Islam is dead then it means your won’t be questioned in day of judgment cause you don’t have applied Islam to follow and that denial. That’s what the devil wants you to think to stray you from the truth. Don’t listen the whispers of the devil he wants to you to questioned the foundation of Islam
@NO NAME so you’re saying God promise to preserve the Quran and the religion was false? Are you saying God didn’t allow the preservation of Islam all these 1400 years? if so then God tells you in the Quran in 4: 165-169 “Messengers delivering good news, and bringing warnings; so that people may have no excuse before God after the coming of the messengers. God is Powerful and Wise (165) But God bears witness to what He revealed to you. He revealed it with His knowledge. And the angels bear witness. Though God is a sufficient witness (166) Those who disbelieve and repel from God’s path have gone far astray (167) Those who disbelieve and transgress; God is not about to forgive them, nor will He guide them to any path (168) Except to the path of Hell, where they will dwell forever. And that is easy for God (169)” Please re-read those verses and think carefully, it’s a matter of heaven and hell.
I went to high school right across the street from Rashad Khalifa's "Masjid". I walked by it daily, alhamdulillaah Allah always kept me from going inside or asking for more info. As a teenager one might be susceptible to false ideologies, as Shaytaan can whisper many falsehoods into the ears. Plus, my eemaan in Islaam at that time was nowhere near to what it is now. Khalifa himself even came into my computer class few times, as we had one of the best programs in Southern Arizona at that time. A few months later he got killed, Edip was all over the news. Seeing Edip 31 years later on CH or still championing the "Quran Only" narrative is mind boggling. Wallahi this man has not learned a single thing in all these years. He is the definition of a cult leader. La hawla walaa quwwatta illa billah.
Let me tell what Edip and his type of people have problem. They have an issue with hadith with many of the commands about our lifestyle comes in the hadith. For instance the "big beards", and perhaps " the exact method of hijab" and "lowering the gaze". I have seen many people who will make excuses to forgo many things they don't want to do.
Hijab does not exist in the Quran. Women are commanded to cover their breasts. Beard and all stuff are non-sense and made up lies. Keeping beard as a sunnah won't make you go to heaven. THINK! I hope you will find the true way of God! The sunnah belongs to Allah as said in the Quran and it won't change. The best hadith is the Quran itself and it is complete and clear.
@@osmankerimli6710 so do what you want. Noone is forcing you. For me when the Quran says obey Allah and the Messenger SAW and those who have been given authority, I do just that. If those who have been given authority differ in the matter then the Quran orders to go back to Quran and Sunnah. If you want to give up the Sunnah, which comes in at least two forms (i.e. the written one and the one that is coming through the Muslims via tradition with agreement of the whole ummah) then that's your choice. When in the Quran the order of "hijab" came, I refer to what the sahabiyat did as per Sunnah. And for me there is logic in it given the shameless society we have. I do have a question. How do you do your salat and Hajj based on the Quran only? Please do provide references. Or do you get "inspired" by the "holy spirit"? Or the fact is that this is just an excuse to avoid being called a dayouths by your heart?
@@mdjackhan First of all, there is nowhere in the Quran Allah commands to obey Prophet's sunnah. Only Allah's sunnah is mentioned. It is called Allah's sunnah and it won't change and it was applied to the past generations. Allah probably used the word sunnah on purpose. Allah says obey Allah and his messenger because messenger was a good example of what Allah has commanded and it is only valid if the messenger is alive. Do you really believe Allah commands you to believe in books which is written 200 years after the prophet? They add non-sense to the religion. Stoning to death punishment for zina? Hasn't Allah already made a punishment for zina in the Qur'an? Someone should be killed if he leaves the religion, while Qur'an says there's no compulsion in the religion. If what you said were the case, Allah would've said to you that you should obey the prophet even after he died using the books, hadiths written after him. Or using the tradition. Did Allah forgot to mention it? Astaghfirullah. Prophet didn't command anything more than what Allah has commanded. And when it comes to prayer and hajj they are easily understandable from the Quran alone. You pray three times a day. You do your bowing(ruku), prostration(sajdah) which is mentioned in the Quran, you don't have to go into details. It is not rocket science. Someone with a proper state of mind will understand how to pray. It is just that your minds are so obsessed with tradition you always search for more. There are details of washing yourself before salat, but there is no detail for how to pray? Astaghfirullah, did Allah forgot it? No, he didn't go into detail for it. You don't need details it is simple. Hajj is a conference in the Kaabah which Muslims should do in 4 haram months for discussing things and helping society. How Hajj is done today is nothing other than worshipping a stone. Yeah in your hearts you worship Allah, but the picture isn't right. You rotate around a stone, touch it. Then you go to the other stone which is "Satan" and you start to stone it. Non-sense. "Hajj" word from arabic literally means "Discussion". When it comes to the sunnah of the Prophet, then why don't you get hadiths of Isa, Musa etc. and do their sunnah too? And also what makes you believe that Bible is corrupted? Why don't you believe in Bible? ALSO, nothing comes with the tradition from the Prophet's time to this day. It is impossible. Even sela is invented in the Ottoman Empire and it is included to the religion like it was always there. Peace, go with the God/Allah's way and you will find happiness. Why do you need more than the Qur'an brother?
@@osmankerimli6710 Interesting. Well do as you wish mate. We each answer for our deeds. Plus do followup with what your family does and how they live with regards to social lifestyle. Our discussion ends here.
10:20 he understands it in the way as long as it doesn't contradict the rest of the Qur'an. Then how do you decide what came first? So you have the basis for it ?
Keep up the good work. One interesting point to note is he is deciding to trust the "historical" reports of what happened around that time in regards to the ummayeds/rome/persia while refusing to trust the "historical" reports of the way the quran and hadeeth were passed down to us even though fundamentally they are both based on trusting testimony reports (sometimes from the same scholars). Sunni reports of hadeeth/quran is even more motwatr in certain regards compared to his version of history.
wow they interupt edip constantly and pile up on him. there should be open discourse and turns being taken to let people get out cohesive thoughts, especially when cohesion requires a whole encapsulation of ideas and trains of thoughts to arrive at the destination of conclusion.
pity Edp, still for him to claim he's a prophet same as what Khalifa ended up with.... This is clear tiny hole these enemies are digging to open n doors for Quran corruption, at the end (these Quranites/Hadith rejecters) may will only say same as Ibliss We only calked u, u decided, don't blame us😅 Since denying the Quran reached them through the comoanions, then everyone would claim he got it from the holy spirit or Amazon as many saying already 😂😂😂 Total Chaos🤐😷 May Allah sw guide them back if sincerely looking toward 🤲✌
According to the Quran for a document to be legal it must be in a written form confirmed by at least 2 witnesses not counting the script and the interested parties. So if the instructions of the prophet were of high importance they must have been put in a written form during his life time. As we know, only the Quran was put in a written form during the life time of the Prophet. According to the muslim historians other documents claiming to be words of the prophet were collected and burned by Abu Bakr and Umar during their Khalifate. How the above mentioned could be explained?
Honestly thank you so much Brother Farid and all other scholars for refuting these claims. It is really sad to see, but the Ummah is getting more and more divided.
@@Lightbulb909 Haha keep trying to protect your "scholars". They know nothing and are misguided. Farid actually studied for years with teachers that go back all the way to the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him). People make claims without actually seeking the knowledge.
I like what you say, if you say good morning/afternoon/evening to everyone except the hadeeth rejectors and twisters of the understanding of the words of Allah then where do they fit in all of this?? I think they're in a completely different dimension lol in a vacuum.
Good morning to every sincere believer. Learn better manners: Quran 6:52 وَلَا تَطْرُدِ ٱلَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ رَبَّهُم بِٱلْغَدَوٰةِ وَٱلْعَشِىِّ يُرِيدُونَ وَجْهَهُۥ ۖ مَا عَلَيْكَ مِنْ حِسَابِهِم مِّن شَىْءٍۢ وَمَا مِنْ حِسَابِكَ عَلَيْهِم مِّن شَىْءٍۢ فَتَطْرُدَهُمْ فَتَكُونَ مِنَ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ ٥٢ Do not dismiss those who invoke their Lord morning and evening, seeking His pleasure. You are not accountable for them whatsoever, nor are they accountable for you. So do not dismiss them, or you will be one of the wrongdoers.
the holly spirit is guiding him and his "reasoning", how dare you questioning him! the funny thing is that every sunnah rejecter/murtad claim that he is right because he is using his intellect, but they themselves disagree on almost everything.
No point in wasting energy on these things just make it quick and say "The same sources that brought you the hadith brought you the Quran, how do you think you got either?" Discussion over.
So, every HADITH must be SAHIH...One error/mistake in any HADITH will mean that the same will be in QURAN. The SAME SOURCES This is why one should NEVER attempt to compare any WRITINGS to QURAN
@@ZeroCelsius777 Obviously I am reffering to authentic hadith wher the sources have to be authenticated via the neccessary conditions like chain of naration and multi-attested etc.. Why would you make such a ridiculous assumption that I was talking about "All" hadith when clearly anyone but a troll would know it was "All Authentic" hadith. It is like talking about water and having to mention it is wet...
@@EyeIn_The_Sky Even what the HADITHERS call AUTHENTIC Hadith is INCORRECT or totally FALSE Explain that E.g. STONING Quran CLEARLY says 100 lashes for FORNICATION…Quran 24:2… So we first understand the definition of fornication... Fornication: Noun…Voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other. Okay, got it? The FORNICATORS can be unmarried or they can be married to someone else. Please explain why they follow something that DISOBEYS ALLAH and what he ORDERS in QURAN and want to STONE people instead.
@@EyeIn_The_Sky Then there are the Silly SUPERSTITIONS that the HADITHERS follow... E.g. Anybody knows why we YAWN. We yawn when the blood needs oxygen. A yawn causes a big intake of air and a faster heartbeat, which means that it is pumping more oxygen through the body. So a yawn is simply designed to help clear toxins out of the blood and provide a fresh supply of oxygen. HOWEVER...ask some HADITHER and they will say... Bukhari, volume 4, book 54, number 509 & Sahih Muslim, book 42, hadith 7130… WHAT THE?!
If you believe that the Quran comes from or is preserved by scholars you're not believing in what the Quran says about itself. Which is fine, but then what is your religion then if it is not based on Quran?
45:6 is crystal clear that believing in hadith after Quran is wrong. In fact prophet Muhammad himself was unaware of sahih bukhari &other hadith books, which means the word 'sahih' itself is already a huge lie.
Is the debate too long? Skip to 31:40 for the gist of it.
A quick recap. Edip believes the following:
- anyone can come up with his own recitation based on dotless manuscripts
- Allah's ﷻ wanted people to come up with their own recitations
- the actual reciters of the Quran are unreliable
- we cannot accept that the reciters of the Quran actually read in the way that we know they read
- we cannot rely on the recitations of the reciters even if they all agree on a recitation
- the Umayyad empire played a role in creating recitations for political gain
- Edip wrote his translation of the Quran based on Hafs' recitation
In brief, Edip, arguably the most well-known Quran-only scholar, doesn't believe that the Quran was preserved.
One point I didn't address in our talk was that the reciters, even when differing, weren't making mistakes, but were reciting in the way that they were taught to recite since the Quran was revealed in seven modes. Please refer to the video below for more on the subject.
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Not only this, he believes that the Prophet Muhammed made up the verse in surah Al Baqrah ayah 143.
Brother Farid, if this guy is "scholar" does that make you Super super super super duper Scholar?
Bruhh, the irony in that last minute 😂😂🤦🏻♀️
Brothers and sisters never forget our oppressed brothers and sisters in your dua and raise awareness for them specially the uyghur brothers and sisters. Our brothers in kashmir are also in great pain. Remember dua is the biggest strength of a believer.
Our beloved prophet(sm) said ,'‘Whoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; if he is unable to, then with his tongue; if he is unable, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith.’' Narrated by Muslim in his saheeh
@@P_Pro27 : You’re an atheist. That makes you fundamentally nihilistic and irrational. This is why you are so seething with rage, as you have no identity nor purpose in life.
LOL at the kitty sandwich pfp
Yeah 😆
I honestly struggled to not be distracted by that, as my mind kept wandering away from the topic to the more pressing question, "why is Farid's icon a kitten sandwich?"
hey you need to know this. LIST OF INNOVATIONS AFTER THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD: HERE IS A SHORT LIST OF TEACHINGS INVENTED BY PAGANS THAT ALLAH DID NOT REVEALED IN HIS QURAN HIS FURQUAN BECAUSE THEY ARE FALSE AND PAGANS.
1.- the christian jesus coming from heaven
2.- jesus being now in heaven
3.- jesus being alive in heaven
4.- jesus being the leader of the world for a time
5.- jesus ascending to heaven
6.- jesus descending from heaven to damascus
7.- jesus visiting Mecca
8.- jesus and his fabricated persian pal the madhi coming to fight with the mythological christian creature the antichrist
9.- female circumcision
10.- Prophet Muhammmad ( saw) being descendant of Abraham or Ishmael
11.- Arabs being descendant of Abraham
12.- killing dogs and loving cats , Dogs are highly defended in Quran
13.- Music as haram
14.- follow hadiths
15.- follow the fabrications of Sunni madhhabs or shia
16.- Praying 5 times a day ( this is taken by sunnis from zoroastrians, it wasn´t a teaching of Rasulullah )
17.- stoning to death is not in Quran, this from judaism copied by sunnis who love the jews
18.- Punishing in the grave and all that nonsenses
19.- Soul being alive after death
20.-Prohibition of perfumes
21.-Prohibition of dressing well
22.- Quran being abrogated, this is an insult to Allah who sent the Quran as guidance.
23.- women and daughters not permitted to study
24.- women being in home only.
25.- Women who has not sex with their husbands go to hell
26.- women testimony is half of a man.
27.- women must not work, but stay at home says sunnah of sahib lie of bukhary
28.- kabbah speaking in the day of judgment
29.- drinking camel urine
30.- defecating and using 3 stones
31.- Mary the mother of jesus being the wife of the Prophet Muhammad
32.- Aisha being the best lady
33.- Following caliphs instead of Quran
34.- niqab, burka ! not mentioned in Quran, because it is from pagans.
35.- male circumcision is from judaims copied by sunnis
36.- compulsory or obligatory to be Wearing long beard like jews or hindus
37.-Love arabs
38.- the dead listening to the living people.
39.- women must not pray when they have menses
40.- do not masturbate
41.-praying tashahhud in the prayers.
42.- suckling the breast of adult women for being you know what.
43.- the flood in time of noah being worldwide . ( Quran says it was noah`s town only !)
44.- The Beating of Children Who Stop Praying
45.- Women must not rule a contry
46.- women lack INTELLIGENCE AND RELIGION.
47.- you must not play chess
48.- you must not play dice.
49.- Prophet Muhammad (saw) being a prophet since he was kid
50.- Urine of the prophet being the best drink
51.- the sweating of the prophet Muhammad (saw) being a perfume
52.- Prophet Muhammad being a healer or a performer of miracles, he was just a man !
53.- do not practice oral sex with your wife says sunni innovators imitating christians monks
54.- Satan urinated in people’s ears.
55.- stupid teaching attributted to Rasulullah like this: Angels do not enter a house witch has either a dog or a picture in it.
56.- fevers were caused by the heat of hellfire
57.- sunni sharia being observed by monkeys
58.- Moses kicking an angel of death, THIS IS FROM JEWS copied by sunni scholars
59.- Menses being impurity
60.- Moses fighting with a stone, this is similar to jesus talking with stones.
61.- Humans being in the image of Allah, this was fabricated by the jew abu hurayra from genesis myths
62.- Adam being so giant ! this is from judaims narrated by the lovely abu hurayra the jew
63.- Aisha being the most important to the Prophet. Sunni lovers of Aisha fabricated this.
64.- dajjals and all this fairy christian mythology from christian scriptures is not in Quran
65.- The Killing of People Who Do Not Give Alms
66.- The Imprisonment and Starvation of Those Who Do Not Fast
and the list could go on !!!!
here are some contradictions of the innovation and likes of mabhabs
Is it obligatory to perform the intention to fast in Ramadan for each day separately?
Yes HANAFI
no MALIKI
yes SHAFI’I
no HANBALI
Does talking inadvertently during prayer invalidate the prayer?
Yes HANAFI
No MALIKI
No SHAFI
Yes HANBALI
Is it compulsory to perform ablution in a given order?
No HANAFI
No MALIKI
Yes SHAFI
Yes HANBALI
Are dogs impure?
No HANAFI
No MALIKI
Yes SHAFII
Yes HANBALI
AND THIS LIST IS LONG ! i do not have time to write all these sunni nonsenses fabricated.
BETTER FOLLOW QURAN AND BE HAPPY. FOLLOW THE QURAN THE GUIDANCE OF ALLAH
QURAN 1: 1-2, QURAN 25:29-30
ALL THE FALSEHOODS YOU SAW ARE NOT IN QURAN BECAUSE THEY ARE FALSEHOODS ATTRIBUTED TO ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET, THAT IS WHY THAT RUBBISH IS NOT IN THE HOLY QURAN.
READ........QURAN 41:41-42
@@neganrodriguez7609 lmfao
@@MuhammadSalman7236 i laugh at your sunni sect and leaders and their innovations 🤣 QURAN 9:31. THE TRUE ISLAM IS ONLY THE QURAN AND QURAN IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF TRUE ISLAM
May Allah guide all Sunnis to Islam
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This was a fun conversation! Wonder where you got the pic in this video from 🤔🤐
Glad to have participated in this conversation!
- IjazTheTrini
Quran talks about multiple revelations preserved:
Quran 6 An'aam 89 - They are those whom *We gave the Book, Al-Hukm (understanding of the religious laws), and Prophethood. But if these disbelieve therein (the Book, Al-Hukm and Prophethood), then, indeed We have entrusted* it to a people (such as the Companions of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) who are not disbelievers therein.
Quran 3 : 48 - **And He (Allah) will teach him [('Îsa (Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, wisdom), (and) the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).**
- Jesus will follow Quran and Sunna upon his return!
Surat al-Baqara 2 :129 - *Lord, raise up from among them a Messenger who shall recite Your Revelations to them and teach them the Book الْكِتَابَ and Wisdom الْحِكْمَةَ and purify their lives.* You art All-Powerful and All-Wise"
An-Nissa' 4 :113 - Allah has sent down the Book and the Wisdom ...
Surat al-Ahzaab 33 :34 - And remember what is recited in your houses of the verses of Allah آيَاتِ اللَّهِ and wisdom الْحِكْمَةِ.
Surat al Jumu'a 62:2 - He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) from among themselves, *reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Qur'an, Islamic laws and Islamic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah* (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم). And verily, they had been before in manifest error;
Quran 2 : 143 - where was the previous qiblah mentioned? - In hadiths!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Haha brother I see you almost everywhere, Barak Allahu Feekum xD
I'm 5mins in and I already find contradiction in what he is saying.
Example: At the beginning, he says Hadith can not be trusted because it is passed on by man and there are contradiction, so on and so on... At the same time he quotes history (Romans and Byzantine) in his argument as though it isn't passed on by man. 😂😂😂 I have a feeling a lot more nonsense are coming...
Passing a hadith from man to man is different than documenting a historical event for example my grandpa could tell me that his best friend said that he doesn't like rice where as in reality he actually did like rice on the other hand my grandpa could tell me about a war he was in and which side won here I can easily research wether it's true or not as many different nations and sources have objected and witnessed this event
@@Samir-dz3np I hope you are not saying what I think you are saying (That hadith can not be trusted) because I can destroy your argument with ease right now. Please tell me that is not the case.
@@Samir-dz3np good explanation.
but isnt hadith also like a documentation?...even when we look at historical events....we cant rely on exactly all the facts since they might ve biased..🤷♀️..after all, wtever research u r doing..u r referring to things written or documented by people...and hadith is not just passing man to man...many svholars verify it and classify it as weak or strong as well....so...hadith and historical documentation sounds similar to me..🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@PEACEWITHIN114 I personally am not a hadith rejector entirely I simply wanted to clear up things but since you got me interested Id like to know what argument you want to "destroy" as I haven't presented any argument for that matter?
The moment they use words like "open-minded" and "reform" is a clear indication of their deviation.
The moment you used another hadith than the Quran is a clear violation from God and regarded as shirk, which will not be forgiven.
@Luqmaan Rashid Science comes from our brains which is given from God. However hadith-followers gave up on that by following fiction books next to the Quran, known as hadiths.
@@Irshaad1337 if science studies in the future had develop different from our understanding nowadays, will your so called 'science' can be consider as fictional. Do remember, 'the fiction book' that you accused, by your understanding is also come from the brain at that time.
@@yobkk1192 Nope, science is nothing more then fact-finding, statements backed up with evidence and research. hadiths doesn't have any of it and it's just pure "hearsays".
@@Irshaad1337 fact finding, evidence, research that confine only among what is observable through your limited time and sight. Changes every 100 years, that may infact make your theory right now, fictitious in the future. Compare to the truth of the whole universe, your research is miniscule and can be regarded as insignificant.
May Allah guide the sincere. Ameen!
Ameen
@@ercanozdemir6956Stop with backhanded comments your the misguided ones Wallahi all most all of you guys are kaffir you sit around and don’t even recite the shahada
'I dont care about the qira'at, I read without marks, I dont care about those 10 men who cares'
10 seconds later
'I used Hafs 'an 'Aasim for my translation that I published.' pure genius
Hafs and Aasim originally had no marks, so he was correct, but you dont understand because of your lack of knowledge
@@willsimp1273 But who confirms the correct qiraat for those?
@@willsimp1273try to read without the marks🤣🤣🤣
You won’t be able to even know what the words mean
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbaliits you who won't be able to read but the arabic scholars read Arabic without marks
Keep editing the comments. What a clown 🤡
This guy is all over the place.. I couldn't really follow a coherent chain of thought.
imaginw believing in Gods word that were revealed to the prophet but disbelieve in the words of the prophet
Edip Yuksel is part of the Kemalist education system. He has an issue with beards, the thobe, political Islam. He is a munafiq, hes a terrible debater and makes points that are absurd.
@@turkishsalafi9819 you seem geniune guy and i would like for you to join me in my youtube and spread it to people
dajjal, jesus`s return, torment of the grave, mahdi, jesus going to heaven, 5 daily prayers, prophet Muhammad going to heaven, Quran being eternal with Allah etc etc are fabrications.
Only Quran must be followed. one enemy of ALLAH CLAIMING AND SHOUTING THE PHRASE....defend your QURAN, DEFEND YOUR QURAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MINUTE QURAN 32: 53 this exposes these false people OF ALHUL SUNNA SECT , the sunni sect rejects Quran, abrogates Quran etc etc, attacking Quran of Allah for their rubbish called sunnah from the sahib lie bukary and sahib lie of muslim and abu dawud etc ! THESE PEOPLE REJECT QURAN FOR A FABRICATED SUNNAH written 290 years after the Prophet. ( QURAN 25:29-30) ( QURAN 2: 1-2)
@@mzmi1422 heclaims to but no
I once asked a hadith rejector about how he knows the Quran is preserved. He then goes ahead and quoutes hadiths on how the Quran was collected and copied. When i pointed out to him, that he is now quouting hadiths, he tried to convince me that it was not from hadith, it is from history. And no matter how much i pointed out to him, that the history book he obviously had read on the subject got it from hadiths, he refused to listen to me.
They follow their desires no matter what, if it wasn't haddith rejection I'd be complete atheism, cause they deeply want to make the halal Haram and the Haram halal but they're too spineless to admit they've left Islam
Trust me bruh Ayub, that even if they try arguing with their own feet, their feet won't even listen to them hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂
@@neilcastro836 😁😁😁
@@neilcastro836 I love the implication that they'd attempt arguing with their feet in the first place LMAO
The Quran is preserved because God says so in the Quran.
*When Truth is heard Against Falsehood , Falsehood perishes . For falsehood by it's nature is bound To perish*
Al Quran 17 :81"
I absolutely love that verse. Another verse is in Surah Ar Rahman
"So which of the favours of your Lord would you deny?"
This isn't Quran. Write the proper Ayah.
@@Yumt.92 which one is the ayah that needs to be quoted properly. Also which translation are you using? I want to see how different your one is.
[6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law when He has brought down to you this book fully detailed? Those whom We gave the Scripture know that it has been brought down from your Lord with the truth. You shall not be among those who doubt.
Hadith-followers = shirk. They will burn in hell
@@Irshaad1337 explain 62:9. It directly mentions Friday prayers. Without hadiths how will someone pray?
Omg, as a Turkish Muslim, this will be such a treat. He just tries to modernize Islam and make it compatible with his fascist ideologies.
That was Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
How does this anyhow have to do with "kurdish ideologies" I lived in turkey and from what Ive seen kurds were the most god fearing and pious muslims in the country whereas turkish people fell into adultery and idolatry
@@Samir-dz3np bram change your username
@@Mohammad.abuabdullah basha akhi mn ka 15 bum aw nawam danawa hataku esta labiram chu bigorm, toba
@@Samir-dz3np dast xosh bray shirnm ♡
Mr. Edip Yuksel, this guy was the first Quranist that I started listening to. I was a bit confused back then about some things he was talking about and couldn’t agree with him because it would have meant that all I was following was full of lies. But now, many years later I did my own research and I have to say, this man is a legend! I’ve been living following Quran only for the last few years. It’s difficult and feels lonely most of the time, but it’s worth it! Love this guy’s work!
Read the verse 20 verses of surah al baqarah and you'll see why the person you think is a legend simply is not.
@@HydeCorvus I say, the same applies to you! You should read that! God starts with surat al Baqara by talking about one book!
@@OmgMustafa I don't think I said there are more than one Quran,but I'm pretty sure you didn't read the verses i mentioned or simply chose to ignore them.
I'm not gonna fight you any longer,only time will tell.
@@HydeCorvus so what’s your point? We should not believe in Quran only? Is that what you mean?
Whoever obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah [Al-Qur'an 4:79]
You have a good model in the Messenger of Allah for one who hopes for Allah and the Last Day. [Al-Qur'an 33:21]
Do you, then, believe in some parts of the Book, and disbelieve in others? So, what can be the punishment of those among you who do that, except disgrace in present life? And, on the Day of Judgement, they shall be turned to the most severe punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. [Al-Qur'an 2:85]
The verses are clear. Anyone who refuses to accept them is responsible for himself and will receive his recompense on the day of judgement. Quranists are only following their whims and desires and want to copy the way of life of the western colonisers
The final words this "scholar" said really bothered me.
33:03 to 33:10
"I cannot (somethingsomething) against those who close their eyes. I cannot show the light."
Hey Edip, Islam is not Christianity. Only Allah SWT guides those who are sincere to Him towards the Truth. Based on this video, it evidentally shows that you aren't.
U cant understand him because u dont have the holy spirit in u 😉
He said showing and not guiding, are you dumb ?
I wish I had Edip's imagination. What a fantastical world he must live in.
Is that a compliment or is that just sarcasm?? Do you even understood what he did with the textual understanding and reading? It's very dangerous!!
@@neilcastro836
Its sarcastic :/
Sounds like a Chrisitan lol
@@Hals-Speakers-Corner he’s a secularist from turkey I believe
@@haideraliibnakhlaq8823 yes I heard it in his accent
As Farid said, if everyone followed his methodology of changing the recitation of Qur'an, there would be way more ikhtilaf in the Ummah, which ironically they blame on ahadith.
You misheard what Edip said. He didn’t say he follows his whims. Rather, he said he follows any recitation that, when applied to entirely of the Quran, doesn’t lead to internal errors within the words of the Quran. Remember, chapter 2, verse 2: “that is the book, no doubt in it, a guidance for almuttaqeen”. Therefore, if a particular recitation of the Quran would lead to meanings of Arabic words that produce an internal error within the text of Quran, then according “that is the book, no doubt in it” is false, and therefore, not the original recitation. However, if any recitation that does not lead to internal errors within the text of the Quran, as said, is okay, since they demonstrate that “that is the book, no doubt in it” is true.
Now, I’ve only looked at five of ten Qira’aat, of them being Hafs and Warsh, they all have the same diacritical markings for chapter 2, verse 2. If the latter five Qira’aat have the same marking as well, then: “that is the book, no doubt in it, a guidance for almuttaqeen” is the criterion or standard for discerning which recitation will demonstrate that verse to be true or false; and those that demonstrate the verse to be false, then, can be disregarded as not reliable recitations. All it takes is for one internal error to be found to demonstrate verse 2 to be false, since it claims that there is no internal doubt or uncertainties in the words of the book or Quran.
@@Lightbulb909 what you will say about this verse
(3:7) It is He Who has revealed the Book to you. Some of its verses are absolutely clear and lucid, and these are the core of the Book.5 Others are ambiguous.6 Those in whose hearts there is perversity, always go about the part which is ambiguous, seeking mischief and seeking to arrive at its meaning arbitrarily, although none knows their true meaning except Allah. On the contrary, those firmly rooted in knowledge say: ‘We believe in it; it is all from our Lord alone.’7
this is what Quranist do , They interpret those verses as per their desire , Like Jins , Hoor , How to perform Salat, Fasting , how to perform Hajj ,
If ALLAH SWT was meant to reveal Only Quran then every single detail would have been in Quran But ALLAH SWT did not put burden upon Muslims to remember such a huge Book and ALLAH SWT revealed this book upon Prophet Muhammad pbuh who taught us this Quran So whenever you will interpret Quran as per your desire you will go astray as this verse said , Companions R.A did not even interpret as per their own desires
@@rajababy2009 What does it mean to follow one’s own desires? To do so, is to approach the text with preconceptions and ideas that one prefers, and argue that is what the text is saying, and bending the text in every which way to demonstrate that this interpretation is the only possible meaning.
How do you know that you are not doing thus from your own desires? You desire that the Hadith and Sunnah must be supported by the Quran so that its validity it strong and that it is reliable. So, when other people interpret a verse, and this interpretation is one you have not heard, you dismiss such interpretation because it goes against the desire that Hadith and Sunnah are supported by the Quran.
Do you see how weak of an objection it is to say to someone: “you following your own desires”? Literally, any Muslim that has his own preconceptions about the Quran hurls this objection at another Muslim with a different preconception about the Quran. Instead of trying to see if an interpretation holds any water, it’s so much easier to accuse one of following their own desire when interpreting the text.
That's like saying if everyone spoke English differently there'd be different languages.
Of course, people do speak English differently, there's British English, Canadian English, American English, New Zealand English Australian English South Africa etc etc.
Yet it's all English and the meaning of the words is exactly the same in every dialect (excepting slang).
Would speaking English differently over a SUPER long period of time mean different languages? probably, but that's a different argument.
A difference in recitation or pronunciation does not mean a difference in meaning.
@@kangzosa there is difference between the book of ALLAH SWT and a language . ALLAH SWT words cant be change and language can be evolved no Problem but to Preserve Quran we need to stick to the basics which is the recitation of Prophet Muhammad pbuh and His companions
Why does this guy trust history?
Is history the real quran to him
exactly! He says "The umayyads did this and the umayyads did that" but hold on a second... where did you get that from? he uses history (history that is not nearly as well preserved as the hadith) and builds here on what he wants to believe. he only goes according to his desires...
@@kdhanimesan I agree.
@@ISAiah.42 this topic goes only back to: is there a God.
If we answer it with yes, there is no issue here. Allah can provide him with a horse that brings him to his throne. Allah could have teleported him up to himself but he chose the former and it is on him to know why he did it!
If you want to make a point, try to be coherent and try to critique the main issue and not unnecessary ones!
judging by your name, you are a christian. you believe that God died....
you see? this is the kind of argument you present!
I like the freudian slip where he says he accepts Yarmouk because some American said something about it
@@ISAiah.42, If you are a Quranist then you insult the Quran by mocking the communication of ants
If you are a christian then you mock the Bible by mocking it
If you are atheist then you are going against scientific fact that ants do indeed communicate with one another
Bruh, that thumbnail...
You have a funny one too 😂😂😂
And yours too.. 😂
As a Turk, I feel great shame knowing people like this, that apostate, and the many Sufis exist. Alhamdulillah that I was guided away from that, and may Allah continue to guide all of us.
@Tim
As a Turk, you should be ashamed of being Muslim in the first place. Your people are far better than the sticking concoctions of Arabs and Persians in the distant past.
@@paulthomas281 - Amazing how you have nothing better to do. Islam has nothing to with ethnicity, might want to go learn more and choose who you gaslight more carefully. As it stands, you are nothing but a devil.
@@paulthomas281 You pagans don't know about Islam. Islam has nothing to do with ethnicity. Im a Bengali and A Muslim. There are Muslims who are Arabs, Turks, persians, Pasthoons, Israelites, Pakistanis, Malaysians, Indonesians Etc. So Islam is not about race. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is for Everyone.
So sufis are ahadith rejectors❓
@@doctorsnuggles3299 - They're not necessarily like this guy. Sufis have a wide range. The best of them do not pay too much to the Sunnah and are innovators, the worst of them commit shirk and still claim to be Muslim.
The question should not be how does one pray but how does one does good actions and corret obligation with parents, spouse, orphans, the neighboor, the friend..
Physical moviments parroting the quran is nonsense...
Quran is to be studied and implemented.. is spiritual guidance for humanity not a yoga manual for arabia
All 10 reading can be wrong? How did he get it right?
The arrogance of this deceiver
@Alien Reject truth thats he is arrogant and switches topic and name calls when cornered yea...
Yeah. According to him , he's come over a millennium later and has found the perfect Qur'an which no one else did. I don't know if that's brainwashing, arrogance, ignorance. Or any other word that could apply here.
The irony of it is that all these rejectors will follow him but not the prophet ﷺ or his sunnah.
These people talk about the proper recitation of the Qur'an, yet, they can not talk among each other in respect to their rights and does not even waiting the other side to finish his argument. And you think that these people will lead Muslims to the future of victory? Yeah! Right! Why not? They know Islam so well that, if Muhammad would have been alive now, they would have taught about the hadeeth to him, because, you are teaching your religion to Allah already.
I've also spoken to him before. All I can say is may Allah guide him
Ameen
May Allah guide you as well
Haha. Coming from someone who follows hadith that insult the prophet and Allah.
Lol 😅
it’s a sad thing that this crazy guy has followers .
İt's the end of time ya akhi , you should not be surprised
@@ISAiah.42 as a Quranist he believe in angels. How is that any more plausible than believing in flying donkey ?
@@squidguard4743 The flying donkey like creature is also mentioned in prophecies of Hinduism that resonate with the revelation of the Quran.
To be honest, God knows best but it's funny people judge so fast about things, guessing at the unseen, and try to disprove the unseen with no proof.
The future is from the unseen, and if you told stuff we experience now, or tech we have, to people of the past, it would be their "flying donkey" and they would ridicule you.
"I use a luminous box to communicate to people from China in real time, and i can know what they are seeing using this method" They would think i'm going crazy or that i'm a divinator... but i'm only using a phone or a pc...
That's the issue with "reason is king" ideology, i agree to a degree, there are hadiths talking about people not reasoning being the cause of death of a companion and it being bad... so yeah, but we can't be extremists...
Allah knows best.
We live in a Dajjalic era it seems.
But I want to be fair, because the j3ws who killed the prophets probably argued the same, i don't want to be like them, but i don't want to be dajjalized either lol...
These men are acting like children. This gentleman has Obviously sacrificed more time and done more actual work than all of them combined. Yet they constantly interrupt and ( in the beginning) attempt to belittle him instead of giving him his due respect. Still, he plows through them . Also I find it interesting that the most vocal CZcams stars are suddenly silent.
Amen
Edip you sir you are speaking for millions of us believe me! May Allah reward you
edip's argument is so crazy that he assumed that qiraats based on competing qiraats or based on disagreement.
Very interesting discussion. Excellent points raised by Farid. Too many people jumping in and changing the topics too frequently.
The guy is totally lost... It seems these days there are many people who call themselves Muslims who are totally lost. May Allah guide all the lost Muslims.
The so called muslims of today following hadith are pagans. Go kiss your black stone.
@@ThanaVu This is part of the Sunnah and the Quran tells us to follow the example of the Messenger of Allah.
If kissing a stone is pagan then kissing wife and children makes the person a pagan too.
@@abdelhak943 God tells us to follow the messenger as in the message of the messenger is the Quran. It is not hadith.
@@Irshaad1337 Lol. Another Hadith rejector who comes with another weird baseless claim.
@@abdelhak943 Here comes another hadith-believer, who, if they were born in a hindu-family, would be a devoted hindu-believer. That is truth of hadith-muslims. They follow their scholars and family only because they were born among them. Weak.
The first 5 minutes and 34 seconds should be enough to see these Hadith rejectors just follow their desires
Arent you just following your desires ? It is easier to worship a fellow human being than a God that you cannot see. You are just taking the easy way by following hadiths. Forsaking God and his book. Following a human being that died more than thousand years ago. And not even that, the hadiths are fake, the prophet never said such things. Which is why they were only able to create it 300 years after the prophet's dead. It is pathetic.
@@Irshaad1337 1 thing I noticed about hadith rejectors, across them all, is their extreme lack of Islamic knowledge.
"Which is why they were only able to create it 300 years after the prophet's dead. It is pathetic." We are just going to act like the Muatta of Imam Malik didnt exist, which was less than 100 years after the death of RasulAllah(saw). Please do yourslef the favor, before taking about hadith, and its transmittion, just learn about it a little.
@@liby254Maybe you should start learning to read the Quran because God disapprove the use of hadiths and nowhere did the prophet authorised it.
@@Irshaad1337 Alhamdulliah I try to read the Quran everyday. I appericate the advice. But to say hadiths came 300+ years after the Prophet is just foolosh, and gave away the clear indicator that you have 0 knowledge about hadiths. But that's what all haidht rejectors have in commin. Lack of Islamic knowledge
@@liby254 The academics and even your hadith-scholars admitted the hadiths came 300 years after the prophet. If you title me as a "hadith-rejector" than I will title you as a "Traitor of the Quran". You commited shirk by following a fiction-based Prophet from the hadiths comparable to the jews who created a golden calf to worship as a substitute of God.
Hadiths are very important, they contain important and vital information that we need in life
Bro islam is not complete without hadeeth
@@teenztown yep
@Mohammed Nasser yeah and?
@Mohammed Nasser agreed
Oh for Allah sake this guy doesn't even know how to pray pffff
32:43 thank you very much, I've officially failed to refute you and will resort to leaving now.
this is scary , this guy's heresy is scary
Short background of Edip Yüksel:
He is from Turkey and quite "famous" at the reformists corner. (I sincerely apologize...)
His father was a big sunni scholar and rejected him openly of being a murtad.
Oh and he follows an indian guy claiming to be the last prophet.
So there is more to it than just rejecting hadiths. There even is a video of hım making weird moves as his interpretation of salah in middle of a masjid...
can you share that video please?
breakdance sahih
I feel sad for them. Such a contradictory belief to hold on. Saddest part it is they are on the edge of heresy even in their own terms (rejecting Qur'an).
Qur’an only “schalah”
The END 🤣 didn’t see that coming…
All I know is, Edip spelled backwards means a Turkish sausage pizza.
Assalamu Alaikum
"my understanding"!!!!!!
I can show you from where it come this understanding.😊
May Allah guide all the ignorant and arrogant Sunnis and shia to the truth
He HAS to change history, islamic teaching and even the Quran itself to justify his ideology. He has no chose but to change them, may Allah guide him to the straight path, he is off the rails.
The ending was sooo disappointing and funny at the same time. He seemed very confident and i was actually waiting for a strong argument from him for half an hour. And then Farid pushes him a bit and he leaves LOL comical and disappointing
😭 your pfp makes me laugh 😂😂
These guys speak as if before the Quran and the Prophet , no-one recited Arabic verses. The Quran was revealed in the tongue of the Arabs and therefore how the verses were to be recited were already known to the people. The interviewers are trying to impose their false notion of the Prophet , Sahabas and imams as the only teachers of recitation and questioning him with it. There is nothing in the Quran that says 7 recitations were revealed. So questioning him over this false idea is nonsensical. The interviewers should first prove their point first
Why does no one just end this guys with the verse
(اطيعوا الله واطيعوا الرسول)
How would they ever obey the prophets saying if they don't believe in hadith
Because we would answer: Obey the messenger means obeying the message of the messenger. And the message is the Quran. And not the hadiths. If God wanted us to follow Muhammad himself, it would have said "Muhammad" but instead it said the "messenger". And the message of the messenger is the Quran. And yes you can call me a hadith-rejector while I will call you a hadith-muslim, the ones who have betrayed the Quran. You will feel hellfire at day of judgement when you continue this godless path. You are committing shirk. Be warned. Worshipping the person of Muhammad = shirk. Hadiths = shirk.
Why didn’t anyone invite Jake the Muslim metaphysician? He knows all the arguments of edip & his cult
On the issue of 'understand as you please,' being able to see contradictions requires a certain sense of consistency, objectivity and honesty, a certain level of knowledge. He seems dishonest because he is relying on narrations (recitations and ahadeeth) when he chooses and discards them inconsistently/randomly. He could not have understood anything he considers knowledge without the very thing he believes as valueless. He has more evidence in favor of what he rejects than he does in favor of his position against it
He doesn’t use Hadith a premise of truth to refute Hadith. Instead, he used Hadith to point out that it is self-refuted. In other words, there are Hadith that contradict other Hadith.
Yes farid thank you very much☝
29:34 that 'Bro'. I felt it man 🤣🤣🤣
As a Turkish I feel ashamed because of Edip. And it is not surprising us when we look at his background... His Family denied him for years and his brother himself on an discussion program denied him.. May Allah give him and us Hidayah...
I am sure you Turkish people have much more other matters to be ashamed for. Understand that believing in God is bigger than being in the grace of your family. Otherwise the prophet would have never accepted the Quran revelations as his family refused to do so. Shame on you that you can not even comprehend this. Satan has made you blind.
This entire topic is a false dichotomy. On one end you have people who reject everything outside of the Quran and want to reinterpret it, and on the other end you have people who put man made history books at the same level as the divine book, some of the extremists of the later even put the hadith above the Quran.
Both sides are in complete disagreement with each other, no one considers the middle ground.
I agree.
There's alot of these podcasts with many Sunni's debating 1 person holding an opposing view
Mental health is a serious issue 🙄
They believe it was man who preserved the Quran, and therefore take the Deen that they prescribed in their man narrated books. THE real believers know Allah preserves the Quran and take their a Deen through The word of Allah!
Can any of them just stick to a point and dont let him go around in circles and chase him in million different directions?
I severely appreciate patience of brothers discussing with him
Farid where can I see images of manuscripts, of classical Islamic works, for example, anything from imam ahmed.. I just want to see how they wrote them and stuff.
Sounds like a teacher of Hatun...everything he said is just as much logical as arguments of Hatun...
😁😁😁😁😁
Hatun has nothing to do with this , why are don’t Muslims so obsessed with her
it's so absirdt that this hadith rejector goes on to say that we don't need history,what do we have to do by knowing history,i mean it's so pathetic because the quran itself dwells into the history and the stories of the past ,as knowing history is what makes a flourish
Quran says Allah preseves it not the salaf. Quran has its own intenal mechanism that none of the people after Muhammed knew or would have known of.
@@finalfrontier001 what you're saying nonsensical,quran is preserved by allah ,but that doesn't mean allah will himself come and do something, it simply implies that allah will preserve quran through the pious people,and that has been done , that's our aqida that the quran we have today ,(all the qiraats ),are the same which was sent down to the prophet
Regardless of recitation the correct meaning of words in the Quran is important for understanding the words of God. The argument of recitation is completely irrelevant. Than they switched to about how to pray. Salat is not the ritual pray that we need to look detailed in some other sources. The meaning of salat is in the Quran . It means to follow closely. Very simple. God is the teacher of the Quran. We all need study the Quran as much as possible
Honestly, i think that's an L on the translators, or interpreters.
I believe the preserved recitations by tradition do have a value, Allah knows best of course.
It is said, by their fruits you shall know them.
If it sounds cool, but then it produces chaos, i am then unsure if they are on the right path.
I'm tempted tbh, because i like certainty, but at the same time I don't know if their assumptions are true.
Because the 19 code is one thing, but other stuff in my opinion they are assuming it.
And the Quran warns us about twisting the tongues.
3:7
هُوَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ مِنْهُ ءَايَـٰتٌۭ مُّحْكَمَـٰتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَـٰبِهَـٰتٌۭ ۖ فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ فِى قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌۭ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَـٰبَهَ مِنْهُ ٱبْتِغَآءَ ٱلْفِتْنَةِ وَٱبْتِغَآءَ تَأْوِيلِهِۦ ۗ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُۥٓ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ ۗ وَٱلرَّٰسِخُونَ فِى ٱلْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ ءَامَنَّا بِهِۦ كُلٌّۭ مِّنْ عِندِ رَبِّنَا ۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّآ أُو۟لُوا۟ ٱلْأَلْبَـٰبِ ٧
He is the One Who has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book, of which some verses are precise-they are the foundation of the Book-while others are elusive. Those with deviant hearts follow the elusive verses seeking ˹to spread˺ doubt through their ˹false˺ interpretations-but none grasps their ˹full˺ meaning except Allah. As for those well-grounded in knowledge, they say, “We believe in this ˹Quran˺-it is all from our Lord.” But none will be mindful ˹of this˺ except people of reason.
- Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
Of course, some may disagree, but if you pay attention my brother, you will see that this is exactly what lead to the corruption of Christianity, they strated reading the verses with their own desires/intellect, the issue with that is that people tend to seek philosofy, greek philosofy made up the trinity.
And this person, the scholar of Quran only, he also relies in philosofy, as others do.
The issue is that philosofy is man made, full of errors.
I reverted to Islam because i got myself totally lost by hearing humans for moral advice.
Why then would i revert to that, if I can read whatever and stretch the Quran to fit my desires, even if i tell myself i'm being honest, i don't think that's the right way.
Allah knows, and we don't.
I'm just saying my thinking right now, it may change.
I only pray Allah subhana wa taala forgives our mistakes in any case.
I don't want division in the umman, and i respect truth seekers, and i'm sure they got some good idea, but if one pays attention to more traditional scholars many also get to the same conclusions, without the need to go all to an extreme, Allahu 3alam.
Perhaps we should hear some good scholars, I mean i'm unsure, but Ali Ataie is quite cool, he has also some weird opinion, he's more into Bible as a Muslim so he may be tempted to legitimize that more, Allahu 3alam.
Appart from him i'm still researching good scholars who actually are more into Quran... one interesting point is the multiple readings of the Quran, i believe there is that, but as I said extremism may lead you astray even if the concept is true in principle...
May Allah guide us all.
Jazakallahu khairan
This person has absolutely no knowledge. I guess he just sat down one day and invented what he wanted to believe in and the evidence.
Conclusion: I cannot brainwash you unless you are open to it.
Kay...
Are you a Muslim
So simple and clear.
sura 45:6 These are Allah’s revelations which We recite to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth. So what hadith will they believe in after ˹denying˺ Allah and His revelations?
sura 77:50 So what hadith after this ˹Quran˺ would they believe in?
sura 7:3 Follow what has been sent down to you from your Lord, and do not take others as guardians besides Him. How seldom are you mindful!
I think sura 2:170 fits exactly to the hadith believers. They believe what their forefathers believe. More clarity is no longer necessary.
sura 2:170 When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance?
Edip has bigger problems than being a “Just Quran” guy. He’s has adopted an indoctrination called the “Miracle of the 19” which was set forth by the infamous Rashad Khalifa who is mostly famous for his claim that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the final rasul but not the final nabi. He also claimed he was a nabi himself.
Edip is a strict follower of him (you can find his videos that he claims he believes Khalifa is a nabi) and unfortunately that’s not he bulk of it; these people of the “Miracle of the 19” cult believe that all the verses in the Quran is somehow correlated with number the 19 in a mathematical way, except the last two verses of the Surah Tawbah. So, they reject those last 2 verses and claim that these were included in the Quran afterwards, hence they are fabricated. These people are blatantly infidels.
The worst part is, because this cult’s followers are not well educated on how math works, their methodology purely sucks and doesn’t add up.
There’s a Turkish mathematician who is at the same time a scholar of Islam. He debated with Edip solely on this “Miracle of the 19” issue and annihilated him on his false claims. That’s an almost 3 hours long video and only in Turkish, so I’m not gonna share here unless any of you ask for it.
He is so easily triggered when being challenged.
Surely not a good characteristic of a debater
"I read Qur'an however I like"...I think this what he wanted to say
Mashallah Farid and the rest of the brothers! 💪
What platform they are talking on? Discord? Telegram?
He trusts historical accounts passed down by non Muslim men but not historical accounts of the prophet Muhammad ﷺ by Muslim men and women?????
Because it is not from the prophet and because the Quran says to only follow Quran. History is totally something else. Islam is religion and history is just history.
The recitation remains the same regardless the different dialects. The message for guidance and mercy remains the same
its impossible to have a reasonable discussion with most polytheists and idolworshippers like the sunni sectants
My guy said he used to be a Sunni scholar... 😂 What a load of BS. Real talk, if he was a real Sunni scholar, he would've legit given my brothers Farid and them some difficulty. There was absolutely 0 reason to believe he was a Sunni scholar. Plus I want to know where he got his ijaza from. 😂
This guy should understand the importance of Hadith if he’s “expert” in Quran.
In Al-Emran 3: 48 Allah said: وَيُعَلِّمُهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ (48)
This is the verse regarding Allah teaches Esa peace upon him literacy, knowledge Torah, the Injeel and given him "الحكمة" here is the sunnah of Essa (Jesus) peace upon him, it means prophets had sunnah as well prophet Muhammad peace upon him and that’s also part of religion that Allah demands us to follow.
This guy should realized it if he only read Quran🤦🏽♂️
@NO NAME then tell me how you can pray step by step using Quran alone?
Do the pilgrimage step by step?
How do we calculate the amount of zakat?
It’s you who don’t value prophet Muhammad’s teaching.
Look at your Islam way is must be filled with holes and confusing questions if you don’t believe in the accepted Hadith.
@NO NAME On what basis you made that claim? From your head or in Quran?
If so, THEN SHOW ME Step-by-step using the Quran!! Where in Quran?
And how many reka’a each prayer?
How many times you pray in a day?
All using Quran only
@NO NAME
Muslims pray 5 times a day, 1 in the morning (fajer), twice in afternoon (dhuher+Asher) and third time (mugreb+esha), the Hadith MATCHES the Quran timing exactly.
You said Islam is dead, when it was dead? Give me a time period.
How come Muslims pray after prophet Muhammad passed away? Imagine your in first century of Islam, how did Muslims pray? Using Quran only? You can not use Quran alone.
If you claim Islam is dead then it means your won’t be questioned in day of judgment cause you don’t have applied Islam to follow and that denial. That’s what the devil wants you to think to stray you from the truth.
Don’t listen the whispers of the devil he wants to you to questioned the foundation of Islam
@NO NAME so you’re saying God promise to preserve the Quran and the religion was false?
Are you saying God didn’t allow the preservation of Islam all these 1400 years?
if so then God tells you in the Quran in 4: 165-169 “Messengers delivering good news, and bringing warnings; so that people may have no excuse before God after the coming of the messengers. God is Powerful and Wise (165) But God bears witness to what He revealed to you. He revealed it with His knowledge. And the angels bear witness. Though God is a sufficient witness (166) Those who disbelieve and repel from God’s path have gone far astray (167) Those who disbelieve and transgress; God is not about to forgive them, nor will He guide them to any path (168) Except to the path of Hell, where they will dwell forever. And that is easy for God (169)”
Please re-read those verses and think carefully, it’s a matter of heaven and hell.
@@SpJrD don't talk with this guy, i don't think he's even muslim in the first place
I went to high school right across the street from Rashad Khalifa's "Masjid". I walked by it daily, alhamdulillaah Allah always kept me from going inside or asking for more info. As a teenager one might be susceptible to false ideologies, as Shaytaan can whisper many falsehoods into the ears. Plus, my eemaan in Islaam at that time was nowhere near to what it is now. Khalifa himself even came into my computer class few times, as we had one of the best programs in Southern Arizona at that time. A few months later he got killed, Edip was all over the news. Seeing Edip 31 years later on CH or still championing the "Quran Only" narrative is mind boggling. Wallahi this man has not learned a single thing in all these years. He is the definition of a cult leader. La hawla walaa quwwatta illa billah.
I believe that Arizona "mosque" closed down; am I right?
@@ThatCanadianBrother yeah, I think somebody is living in it i.e. resident housing.
@@SaqifahProductions Thanks.
@@ThatCanadianBrother yw bro
@@mouloudbouchebaba860 stop crying and sit down.
Let me tell what Edip and his type of people have problem. They have an issue with hadith with many of the commands about our lifestyle comes in the hadith. For instance the "big beards", and perhaps " the exact method of hijab" and "lowering the gaze". I have seen many people who will make excuses to forgo many things they don't want to do.
Hijab does not exist in the Quran. Women are commanded to cover their breasts. Beard and all stuff are non-sense and made up lies. Keeping beard as a sunnah won't make you go to heaven. THINK! I hope you will find the true way of God! The sunnah belongs to Allah as said in the Quran and it won't change. The best hadith is the Quran itself and it is complete and clear.
@@osmankerimli6710 so do what you want. Noone is forcing you.
For me when the Quran says obey Allah and the Messenger SAW and those who have been given authority, I do just that. If those who have been given authority differ in the matter then the Quran orders to go back to Quran and Sunnah. If you want to give up the Sunnah, which comes in at least two forms (i.e. the written one and the one that is coming through the Muslims via tradition with agreement of the whole ummah) then that's your choice. When in the Quran the order of "hijab" came, I refer to what the sahabiyat did as per Sunnah. And for me there is logic in it given the shameless society we have.
I do have a question. How do you do your salat and Hajj based on the Quran only? Please do provide references. Or do you get "inspired" by the "holy spirit"? Or the fact is that this is just an excuse to avoid being called a dayouths by your heart?
@@mdjackhan First of all, there is nowhere in the Quran Allah commands to obey Prophet's sunnah. Only Allah's sunnah is mentioned. It is called Allah's sunnah and it won't change and it was applied to the past generations. Allah probably used the word sunnah on purpose. Allah says obey Allah and his messenger because messenger was a good example of what Allah has commanded and it is only valid if the messenger is alive. Do you really believe Allah commands you to believe in books which is written 200 years after the prophet? They add non-sense to the religion. Stoning to death punishment for zina? Hasn't Allah already made a punishment for zina in the Qur'an? Someone should be killed if he leaves the religion, while Qur'an says there's no compulsion in the religion. If what you said were the case, Allah would've said to you that you should obey the prophet even after he died using the books, hadiths written after him. Or using the tradition. Did Allah forgot to mention it? Astaghfirullah. Prophet didn't command anything more than what Allah has commanded. And when it comes to prayer and hajj they are easily understandable from the Quran alone. You pray three times a day. You do your bowing(ruku), prostration(sajdah) which is mentioned in the Quran, you don't have to go into details. It is not rocket science. Someone with a proper state of mind will understand how to pray. It is just that your minds are so obsessed with tradition you always search for more. There are details of washing yourself before salat, but there is no detail for how to pray? Astaghfirullah, did Allah forgot it? No, he didn't go into detail for it. You don't need details it is simple. Hajj is a conference in the Kaabah which Muslims should do in 4 haram months for discussing things and helping society. How Hajj is done today is nothing other than worshipping a stone. Yeah in your hearts you worship Allah, but the picture isn't right. You rotate around a stone, touch it. Then you go to the other stone which is "Satan" and you start to stone it. Non-sense. "Hajj" word from arabic literally means "Discussion". When it comes to the sunnah of the Prophet, then why don't you get hadiths of Isa, Musa etc. and do their sunnah too? And also what makes you believe that Bible is corrupted? Why don't you believe in Bible? ALSO, nothing comes with the tradition from the Prophet's time to this day. It is impossible. Even sela is invented in the Ottoman Empire and it is included to the religion like it was always there. Peace, go with the God/Allah's way and you will find happiness. Why do you need more than the Qur'an brother?
@@osmankerimli6710 Interesting. Well do as you wish mate. We each answer for our deeds. Plus do followup with what your family does and how they live with regards to social lifestyle. Our discussion ends here.
The pinnacle of jahaalah and takabbur. Over 1400 years and I am the only one who has ever known the truth.
😂😂😂this guy cannot even recite properly, so this is the expert !!!!
Referring to whether people should people should come up with their own recitations
"There is no problem with that. TRUST ME".
Edip Yuksel
A Turkish secularist.
The thing gained my attention is photo in the account of Brother Farid.😁
So bored of the hadith rejektors Islam is Quran and Hadith..
3/4 persons vs 1. Can’t you dare 1 to 1?
10:20 he understands it in the way as long as it doesn't contradict the rest of the Qur'an. Then how do you decide what came first? So you have the basis for it ?
So then how he explains the other part of that ayah when it says, ... Min ba'di GHALABIHIM ??
The Prophet ﷺ said in a hadith that in there will come a time where foolish will be listened to and the learned people will be ignored.
Edip's father Sadreddin Yüksel was a very famous sheikh in Turkey and he declared his son(Edip) a murtad.
Really 😬🤐😲?? Is that so 🤔🤨?? Wow than that means his father must have been better guided that he lol😆😆😆😆😆😆
Sources?
Keep up the good work.
One interesting point to note is he is deciding to trust the "historical" reports of what happened around that time in regards to the ummayeds/rome/persia while refusing to trust the "historical" reports of the way the quran and hadeeth were passed down to us even though fundamentally they are both based on trusting testimony reports (sometimes from the same scholars).
Sunni reports of hadeeth/quran is even more motwatr in certain regards compared to his version of history.
wow they interupt edip constantly and pile up on him. there should be open discourse and turns being taken to let people get out cohesive thoughts, especially when cohesion requires a whole encapsulation of ideas and trains of thoughts to arrive at the destination of conclusion.
I laugh everytime I see these himaar trying to fight the Sunnah .. they are good for comedy purposes but nothing else 😀
pity Edp, still for him to claim he's a prophet same as what Khalifa ended up with.... This is clear tiny hole these enemies are digging to open n doors for Quran corruption, at the end (these Quranites/Hadith rejecters) may will only say same as Ibliss We only calked u, u decided, don't blame us😅 Since denying the Quran reached them through the comoanions, then everyone would claim he got it from the holy spirit or Amazon as many saying already 😂😂😂 Total Chaos🤐😷 May Allah sw guide them back if sincerely looking toward 🤲✌
Which room is that
According to the Quran for a document to be legal it must be in a written form confirmed by at least 2 witnesses not counting the script and the interested parties.
So if the instructions of the prophet were of high importance they must have been put in a written form during his life time. As we know, only the Quran was put in a written form during the life time of the Prophet. According to the muslim historians other documents claiming to be words of the prophet were collected and burned by Abu Bakr and Umar during their Khalifate.
How the above mentioned could be explained?
Honestly thank you so much Brother Farid and all other scholars for refuting these claims. It is really sad to see, but the Ummah is getting more and more divided.
@@mouloudbouchebaba860 I guess your heart is blind. The guy was like the Christians, running away.
@@musfiqurkashem8614 He wasn’t running away. He realized they were too immature to discuss with.
@@Lightbulb909 Haha keep trying to protect your "scholars". They know nothing and are misguided. Farid actually studied for years with teachers that go back all the way to the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him). People make claims without actually seeking the knowledge.
@@musfiqurkashem8614 Right, because seeking knowledge is regurgitating the arguments of my teachers. That’s some good knowledge.
@@Lightbulb909 Wow the arrogance. Of course you know so much better and you definitely studied so much. Thanks for your knowledge Sheikh Yousef.
Good morning/afternoon/evening to everyone 😇 except Hadith rejectors 🗿
Good morning
I like what you say, if you say good morning/afternoon/evening to everyone except the hadeeth rejectors and twisters of the understanding of the words of Allah then where do they fit in all of this?? I think they're in a completely different dimension lol in a vacuum.
Subah/sham/shab bakhair 😇
Good morning to every sincere believer.
Learn better manners:
Quran 6:52
وَلَا تَطْرُدِ ٱلَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ رَبَّهُم بِٱلْغَدَوٰةِ وَٱلْعَشِىِّ يُرِيدُونَ وَجْهَهُۥ ۖ مَا عَلَيْكَ مِنْ حِسَابِهِم مِّن شَىْءٍۢ وَمَا مِنْ حِسَابِكَ عَلَيْهِم مِّن شَىْءٍۢ فَتَطْرُدَهُمْ فَتَكُونَ مِنَ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ ٥٢
Do not dismiss those who invoke their Lord morning and evening, seeking His pleasure. You are not accountable for them whatsoever, nor are they accountable for you. So do not dismiss them, or you will be one of the wrongdoers.
ofcourse why would a mushrik greet a believer.
So how do you follow the Prophet if you don't follow the sunnah
The Edip guy was making some interesting points but suddenly gave up.
the holly spirit is guiding him and his "reasoning", how dare you questioning him!
the funny thing is that every sunnah rejecter/murtad claim that he is right because he is using his intellect, but they themselves disagree on almost everything.
No point in wasting energy on these things just make it quick and say "The same sources that brought you the hadith brought you the Quran, how do you think you got either?" Discussion over.
So, every HADITH must be SAHIH...One error/mistake in any HADITH will mean that the same will be in QURAN.
The SAME SOURCES
This is why one should NEVER attempt to compare any WRITINGS to QURAN
@@ZeroCelsius777 Obviously I am reffering to authentic hadith wher the sources have to be authenticated via the neccessary conditions like chain of naration and multi-attested etc.. Why would you make such a ridiculous assumption that I was talking about "All" hadith when clearly anyone but a troll would know it was "All Authentic" hadith. It is like talking about water and having to mention it is wet...
@@EyeIn_The_Sky Even what the HADITHERS call AUTHENTIC Hadith is INCORRECT or totally FALSE
Explain that
E.g. STONING
Quran CLEARLY says 100 lashes for FORNICATION…Quran 24:2…
So we first understand the definition of fornication...
Fornication: Noun…Voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other.
Okay, got it? The FORNICATORS can be unmarried or they can be married to someone else.
Please explain why they follow something that DISOBEYS ALLAH and what he ORDERS in QURAN and want to STONE people instead.
@@EyeIn_The_Sky Then there are the Silly SUPERSTITIONS that the HADITHERS follow...
E.g.
Anybody knows why we YAWN. We yawn when the blood needs oxygen. A yawn causes a big intake of air and a faster heartbeat, which means that it is pumping more oxygen through the body.
So a yawn is simply designed to help clear toxins out of the blood and provide a fresh supply of oxygen.
HOWEVER...ask some HADITHER and they will say...
Bukhari, volume 4, book 54, number 509 & Sahih Muslim, book 42, hadith 7130…
WHAT THE?!
If you believe that the Quran comes from or is preserved by scholars you're not believing in what the Quran says about itself. Which is fine, but then what is your religion then if it is not based on Quran?
45:6 is crystal clear that believing in hadith after Quran is wrong. In fact prophet Muhammad himself was unaware of sahih bukhari &other hadith books, which means the word 'sahih' itself is already a huge lie.
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