Gen Z Gamers Choosing RETRO Games Over New AAA Titles?!
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2024
- Well now. Gen Z and Gen Alpha kids are going back to retro games from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s, according to the media. That means that if
Gen X and Millenial players are abandoning newer AAA titles, and now Gen Z and Alpha are... well, that might explain the lackluster sales and layoffs. At least partially. Is this just a fad, or are retro games (and retro STYLE games) here to stay?
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Retro games were meant to entertain you, not correct you. Just a thought.
They didn't try to sell you shit either!
Nahhhh surely that couldn't be it
@@coldspell they tried to sell games, now they try to sell you content
'retro games' also couldn't fall back on production values as a crutch. The game had to be first and foremost GOOD to get a market share, otherwise it was quickly forgotten when the next shiny new thing came along.
You can go back not that long and get yourself a 30+ hour single player experience with okay graphics, or you can get the newest, neatest possible tech demo that comes with maybe 8 hours of content unless you wanna buy a DLC or 3.... gee, i wonder why, in a a slumping world economy, people are going back to the older stuff...
Indeed
Turns out a majority of Gamers prefer to be entertained than be lectured to.
Ikr shocker
@aster4jaden
Who'da thunk...? But seriously this is sad.
Also they prefer Nintendo games both new and old.
They prefer fun over yap sessions… honestly not surprised
Gaming is a hobby. Always has been.
Hobbies are what you do to escape the drudgery of every day life.
You have to be a special kind of dumb to think you'll ever get anywhere by forcing 'modern day concerns' into people's hobbies.
As a retro-gamer Gen Z-er, I see this as an absolute win.
Welcome to the club
Same here, but I'm the oldest of the Gen z, so I grew up with stuff like the PS2 playing legendary games like Tony Hawk, the GOATed Dragonball Z games, Final Fantasy 10, 10-2 and 12 along with other gems
I'm gen alpha (13 soon 14) and this is also a fuckin win. Even though I'm born in a generation with improved technology. I still look at SM64/SM64DS and go like "Man, its Mario in 3d".
You should as I started on Wolfenstein 3D on a wang 87 running MS DOS
Glad I'm not the only one.
If I wanted realistic graphics I can go outside and enjoy a sunny day, if I wanted a realistic rain I can get to the door and watch the rain IRL...
There was some interesting property of old games, the "immediate" thing. WYSIWIG thing. One draws some level in Duke Nukem 3D, and level geometry matches the visible geometry. In modern games there are plenty of details, but underneath the level geometry is still simple, it's just invisible.
And people can draw custom maps, and they become alive with almost no customization. Monsters can hunt main player. The exception is flying pigcops, they need tracks to fly, others are just placed on a new map, and they attack player. If game developer makes new game as opposed to making Build level, chances are combat will suck. You probably have seen such indie games with bad combat. I even think that indie game developers, if they don't want retro look, they can take Build engine for game mechanics, but draw environment and creatures with some other game engine.
See I get it, but I enjoy realistic graphics on games that didn’t have them previously. I’ve been enjoying hd textures for my retro games as well as enhancing Minecraft. I think it just has its places
Og
This guy makes me feel proud of him. Well said there.
Those graphics are meant to replicate real life and give a feel that you'd have in-person and with Devil May Cry 5, see the Demonic/Supernatural Power as if it'd be what you'd see irl, Super Sonic fighting Wyvern in Fronteirs is to give that exhilarating flight battle as a absurdly powerful individual able to fly. Photorealism has its purpose.
Looks like modern audiences are rejecting games made for "modern audiences"!
Even the old video games can have bloat too. Japanese video games that were brought to the US back then have been censored. Super Mario Kart, Mother 2, and Final Fantasy are one of them.
That’s just the excuse THEY’VE been waiting for.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 at least the old censorship isn't as bad as today's DEI Bridge based censorship. (DEI is what needs to be censored)
@@LuigiTheMetal64Mainly a lot of them prefer both old and new Nintendo games.
@@suroguner Old censorship is still censorship. Saying otherwise is like saying new pizza is not pizza.
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And no woke ideology.
@@rogueinvestor2375 Yes, obviously, but the point is that when they get derailed on the quest to proselytize woke ideology, they lose sight of these fundamental qualities of good games.
And they are whole completed games.
also lets not forget CONTINUOUS FREE UPDATES
Stardew Valley: 1 person
Minecraft: 1 person
palworld: a handful of people
yet all of them give continuous free updates
also kreativity and beautifull artstyle that don't look all the same.
The 80's, 90's, and even 2000's had some of the best media for us growing up then.
At least these kids can go back to it and watch them.
The modern day also has great media.
As a 22 year old Gen Z member I'm having fun playing old PS2 games and playing on SNES emulators. It's also more affordable than spending $60.00 on a low effort triple A game with only 15 hours of gameplay
Exactly and i can't really afford a gaming pc. My pc is still a potato so i use that run emulators(too bad i need a beefy pc to run rpcs3 well), i also have a ps3 so i have been playing old ps3 titles that i couldn't play when i was growing up. Ever played spec ops the line? Godamn that was very interesting. The game is not even on steam anymore.
SAME! I got a vita and got some games to play which I haven't delved too much into since I played Minecraft most during that time. Currently playing Castlevania Symphony of the Night and also Death Mark.
@@ezhumbug that is so cool, I've been running ps2 emulator so I'm playing resident evil 4 and jetli:rise to honour. It's so much fun.
Word!!! Preach it!!
They hate equipment like Nvidia Shield pro that can Play tons of old games all for free.
Gen z are jealous of the 80s and 90s because their childhood is an isolated hel hole compared to back then
Yeah, they have the disgrace to born in a woke era. It must be crazy for them to know that years ago, videogames were made by people who deserved it and wanted to give customers what they want instead of attacking them.
Seriously it’s like the same crowd that downplays the stuff we play is pure garbage and is vastly inferior to the stuff they play where it’s all better graphics etc., like come on does it look like some of us care about that, not really like I’m playing Tomb Raider 1-3 remastered sure it’s not fancy schmancy but like I care it was fun and I enjoyed playing as a kid back then same with Turok remasters 😂
To be fair, Gens before then were born in occupied enemy territory. We never knew how good things were in the 50s.
I doubt it most likely they're going back to the 360 and PS3 generation because that's what they grew up with I highly doubt it that a Gen Z will buy an NES system. The article is little bit unrealistic.
I’m gen z and I’ve always been bitter about how I was never around for releases like Mario 64. I was 5 years shy of it.
Remember when Agent Smith referred to 1999 as "the peak of your civilization"?
Maybe he wasn't kidding.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri was maybe a year old at that time. The Baldur's Gate series wasn't much older either, games 1 and 2. So I'm not surprised. They were pretty top tier.
It really was the peak!
Culturally: Before 9/11, before crazy inflation, before racial tensions escalated
Entertainment: Before physical media died, before AAA games got bloated budgets, buggy releases and a necessity for EVERY game to be open-world regardless of if it works well for that particular game
@@mirceazaharia2094Sid Meiers alpha centauri is top 10 games to ever exist.
I was thinking about that quote of the Matrix and he was correct. How is it possible that right now most people are less tolerant and we have more censorship than in the 90's
@@mirceazaharia2094 Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri still holds a place on my shelf because it could be Played by E-mail (PBEM), which is something me and my friends still use to this day. Not to mention it's one of the best games to exist just from the complexity and depth.
Gen Z here. I'd rather play old games than modern games because they are COMPLETE. No DLC, no Day One patches, no Early Access BS, no live service BS, none of that nonsense.
I'm having a boatload of fun with Classic Doom with a bunch of mods or even just vanilla more than I'm having fun with any modern game.
Plus retrogames are not absurdly large in size so you can fit more in your Hard or Solid Drive
@@marcelo20xxxx Exactly. I'm glad my old games barely reach a couple hundred MB at most. Some may reach a GB or two, but often they're worth the space which is more than I can say for many modern games these days.
You should also try the original Half-Life - the mods for it are a whole cargo ship of fun
@@Ulrich_dArth I have. Mostly via Sven Coop, though.
@@Ulrich_dArthNah Half Life 1 is boring af, Duke Nukem's better
1975 - 2005 was the peak of humanity.
In the west
Tell that to the rest of the world 🌎🌍
Facts
1968 - 2013 for me imo
Generally, yes. Still some bangers past then though.
Like the entirety of Soulsborne games
It's also refreshing for these kids to play a game that was designed to be fun not designed to make them pay extra money for every aspect of it
cheers to that
Lol like you didn't have to enter a coin to get killed two minutes later.
Exactly!! I'm a true retro gamer
DLC... Take DBZ FighterZ for example. If you want MUI Goku, etc. You HAVE to buy that character if you want competitive matches etc. It's dumb. I remember having to unlock characters after you complete something and unlocking the character after you complete something in a story. Etc.
Your not talking about the arcade games right?
"Gen Z is playing retro games"
Me: these kids'll be just fine
I'm a later gen Z, but I've always loved retro games. I grew up playing them because my parents kept their college year systems that me and my friends would play for hours, even as a little kid. And today I'm still more likely to download a ROM of an old PS1 or N64 game than purchase a woke piece of crap that is more interested in sucking the money from my wallet at every turn than entertaining me.
@@vegetashairline3060More wahoos and limit breaks than you can shake a stick at.
Reminds me that when I modded my n3ds I managed to download a build of a retroarch PS1 emulator that was stable and didn’t run PS1 games slowly. It’s pretty fun, and kind of cursed looking, but fun.
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@@vegetashairline3060 if you ever have kids
Buy him a DS Lite with an R4 instead of a phone
I remember when you bought the entire video game on one disc on day one. No updates no patches, a complete video game. Those were the days.
I remember a lot of studios used to release buggy games back in the day that just never got fixed.
As bad as things can get now, at least some buggy games can end up eventually being decent
Nah, I prefer the modern day with patches. Most people don't want an incredibly buggy game but I could be wrong.
My Gen Alpha kids wants a Nintendo DS for their birthday and Gameboy color. They are 8,10 and 12. I’m a very proud Millennial mom. Also, they wish we kept our original n64 we sold a few years ago.
I've bought Nokia N95. With Symbian, N-Gage 2.0 and J2ME. That was the portable gaming, but somehow people only recall GameBoy now
Your kids have good taste :)
Check out retrogamescorps simplest handheld video
Retro games are better in every way. They are just about having fun with cool characters, no agenda, no forced identity politics, no over the top cinematic cut scenes, just straight forward gaming.
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Like old pokemon
@@justmeok2 All of that in a multiplayer only game where cheaters are a real problem.
Retro as in 20 or 30 years ago?
Like Quake 1 is just your strandards arcade shooter game it story is every where but you still feel the passion it when into making it.
Because they're bad games. I just want to have fun. That's it. I'm not trying to hear about political or ideological garbage from Californians, I just want to relax (or rage) at my hobby.
As a hispanic Californian myself, I HATE the damn politics and bad business practices in my games. Older games FOREVER! Plus, I pre-ordered Stellar Blade. So yeah.
Live service wallet raiding is a bigger issue than any Game with "modern" themes etc.
@@mediawarrior5957 You elevate such things above a literal marxist cultural revolution that is financed with your own taxes and uses media and education as a vehicle for absolute control and total domination? I think you need to readjust your priorities.
Californian Libertarian here. Don't lump us all in the Woke bin if we don't support that crap.
I play short but sweet modern games. No time to invest 80 hours in video games like the RPG genre.
Remember Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, where Eggman tried to hit Station Square with an ICBM and held a gun to Amy's head respectively? It's not just the hardware and the games themselves that are getting popular again, the idea that a kid's game could show you stuff like that is almost unthinkable nowadays, which is exactly why they're so alluring. Kids *enjoy* being surprised by things that break the status quo that they're used to.
Thank modern woke for that. Couldn't even have a game like paperboy today.
Now that you mention it, it's also wild that an entire city was destroyed in Sonic Adventure 1, or that an entire tribe was erased by Chaos. Sonic games nowadays don't even come close to that
@@j19aiden91well in Sonic forces Sonic was “tortured” they just didn’t show it. And in frontiers The End destroyed an entire planet so..
@@crustykeycap5670 True, but the stories have been a bit forgettable lately.
Forces was just underwhelming in execution since Sonic doesn't even have a scratch on him, and Frontiers is hardly any better since nothin really happens outside of a few bosses and break the monotony.
This is the "modern" audience they tried to groom and cater to.
All they did was drive them away.
The fact that AAA games are 70 bucks now doesn't help.. I just started playing witcher 3 again for the 5th time and I couldn't be happier :)
Same with me and monster hunter world.
@@jaylenharris343 Isn't that the one with a DLC named "Iceborne"?
I just started playing DS1 again and I just love everything there
And they’re not even complete at $70 either. 🙄I’d rather wait a week and save $50 since most get cheap fast anyway. Chasing an extra $10 just means more people will be willing to wait and save.
@@wargamesmaster Yeah
Next and last gen listening to old music, Watching old T.V Shows, even playing retro video games is literally something than dealing with new ones that are annoying to buggy or even filled with woke messages/propaganda.
I grew up in the 1980s, when it didn't take large teams years to produce a top tier video game. When the machines couldn't do fancy graphics, game controllers didn't have umpteen inputs, and the games had to depend on well designed play. When working within and around the limits of hardware was a big part of design.
Keep in mind that most new AAA games are $70, unfinished and unpolished, take up too much storage space, require a god tier PC to play, and the ones that are actually good or worth it are far and few between.
Although games cost far more now. Specs on game were high as well 30+ years ago. You had to have a pretty high end computer in the 90s the play wing commander 3 and 4. Alot of games required a good computer just to play them.
Don't really need to worry about that today.
Old games don't screen woke nonsense at you either.
"They don't make them like they used to" is actually being applied positively XD imagine playing games that were made to be fun over games that were made to lecture and insult you.
and to make you into a microtransaction junkie, yes, I completely agree with you.
It's not just that. Since the Xbox joined the console wars, graphics have been the focus and you even saw that take over the Playstation by PS3 as well. Games were no longer about content, but rather visuals. Then instead of aiming for sales, they aimed for "engagement" and focus on trying to monetize the whales as much as they could.
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz So true, mi so true, for me seen games i mean look so hyper realistic and yet they are boring as hell, all look the same and all are so boring, try to have everithing and focus on nothing
Oh man, Icewind Dale, Neverwinter Nights, Supreme Commander, Warcraft 3, Scarcraft Brood War, Diablo. Such wonderful gems.
@@mirceazaharia2094 other than commander and diable i have been playing the others XD
Modern AAA developers belittle & berate consumers, driving us towards our backlogs. It's honestly a blessing in disguise.
Some of the best money i ever spent was buying a NES classic and SNES classic for my kids. They like the Switch, but they ALSO like the classics - and I still have my skills - so we can enjoy playing together. Now they're begging me to bring the Wii out of the closet...
Evercade? Analogue Pocket?
Gamers are reverting to older classic games.
TV viewers are reverting to older classic shows.
The media seems confused about this. Maybe if they hadn't been shilling for game & TV studios the past 5 years or so they would have noticed a trend...
Whether it's in gaming or in shows, people just want to be entertained and not lectured to.
This.
This is definitely going to rely because you can't rely on the stuff from the past all the time
Speaking of TV shows as a fellow gamer that was born on 3rd August 1994, I enjoyed The League of Gentlemen a month ago. That was a real riot.
The wife and I have been watching M.A.S.H. It still holds up.
@@animezilla4486 The thing is that, these days, the people who run things in the entertainment industry tend to forget what made the media of old so timeless and great to begin with.
They weren't focused on realism and (to use a term coined by a certain drunk Scotsman) THE MESSAGE. Instead, they were focused on letting their audience escape from their mundane reality, telling a great story with compelling characters, and have fun, larger-than-life adventures while doing so.
As a female high functioning autistic zoomer born in 2001, it honestly disheartens me to know that I've witnessed the gradual enshittification of practically everything.
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80's and 90's was the golden age of video games.
*is
Early 2000s had some incredible hits too. But man. Dino Crisis and Link to the Past were just the apex of gaming.
@@grigoris.7732 The 2000 where amazing I spent so many nights playing on PS2 . Till around 3 am
As someone who grew up with video games and owned the original NES system, I would agree with the others who add in the 2000s. A lot of the games of the 2000s applied the concepts of the 90s but with better technical capabilities, though you were starting to see problems then with the fixation on graphics over gameplay. Once "live service" crap started in the late 2000s, that's when it began really going downhill.
@@CaptainOverkill so true
At a retro game store, I actually saw kids getting Gen 1-3 Pokemon. It's nutty. They aren't cheap, either.
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Hopefully, popular places like CZcams host more kid-friendly retro-game videos to help the new generation.
Older Gen Z here. Retro games for are actually nostalgic for even us because while I didn't play them when I was a kid, CZcams videos and let's plays did exist of people playing retro games, and the youtube gaming/let's play scene was absolutely full of mostly retro stuff, so those old games that were a part of of their childhoods then became a part of our childhoods through those videos, that then made us want to plays those for ourselves.
They're also just good games.
My grands always ask me to borrow old games and consoles from my collection, that I have accumulated over the decades.
My nephew is gen Alpha and he prefers playing the classic sonic games from the 90s over games from today.
No wonder, a lot of older fans are now seniors too, same can be said about the parents with their own kids...
@@cagnazzo82 Your nephew reminds me of myself. Tell him he's way past cool!
The reason? Entertainment. That's it.
Old games allow you escapism and inspire you to want to be those "characters". They don't lecture you. They. Just. Entertain. You.
The sooner recent generations undetstand the true meaning of the word, the better for their future.
Indeed
Also, if you want gaming to be golden again, play indie games and AA games.
We have awesome indie games and AA games like Fnaf, Batim, Monstrum, Cuphead, Dark Deception, Hollow Knight, Shovel Knight, Hades, Little Nightmares, Celeste, Skul The Hero Slayer, Metallic Child, Dead Cells, Curse Of The Dead Gods, Cult Of The Lamb, FIST Forged In Shadow Torch, Lumbear Jack, Pronty Fishy Adventure, 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim, Input6, Stardew Valley, Dead Estate, The Desolate Hope, The Messenger, The Coma, Rain World, A Hat In Time, Death's Door, Tunic, Haiku The Robot, Have A Nice Death, Kunai, Natti, Nova Drift, Peglin, Ak-xolotl, Atomic Heart, Voidigo, Spark The Electric Jester, A Short Hike, Lil Gator Game, Scarf, Mighty Goose, Cyber Shadow, Untitled Goose Game, Hotline Maimi, At Dead Of Night, Pikuniku, Pirate Outlaws, Soda Crisis, Pizza Tower, Pizza Possum, No Straight Roads, Popucom, Try To Fall Asleep, Everspace, Stellar Blade, and many more awesome indie games and AA games to look forward too!🎁🎊🥳
People on either side don't want to be constantly told they're part of a system of oppression. Amazing.
And that's the appeal of older entertainment. It's entertainment. Not propaganda.
Fun and escapism. There it is.
Also, side note... it's part of why I sometimes take issue with Realism outside of historical stuff. It's completely the opposite of both especially if you go about it wrong.
I want a fun video game, not a lecture about what details are realistic and which ones aren't.
As a Gen Z, I started playing Retro Games since I was 8. When my sister got a PS2 for Christmas, most of our games we bought were shovelware, mostly because how expensive the games were. Most of my best gaming experiences as a child back then was on PC. The game that brought me to retro games was Super Mario Bros Crossover, a flash game that introduced me to Mega Man. I was absolutely blown away by the Mega Man 3 Title screen theme that I had to google it up and find the source for it. I eventually discovered emulation. It ran slow due to my low end specs of my Windows XP PC at the time, but ever since I discovered retro games through emulation. I was hooked, man. I would spend hours upon hours playing through the Mega Man games after doing my homework and chores. My parents discovered my love for retro games so they gave me Sonic Mega Collection Plus on PS2 and it became one of the most played games out of my PS2 library since most of them were really bad games. I would eventually pay for the Mega Man Legacy Collections to make up for the downloaded Mega Man ROMs and to legally play these games I enjoyed during my childhood.
The 16-bit wars (1990 - 1995) were pure bliss.
I hope the crazies leave retro games alone. They like to lie & say certain games are 'dangerous' & need to get gone
It's a good thing you can just own a retro game that can't be tarnished. Pokemon Emerald comes to mind. 😏
No, in the 1990s those types were around saying games were too violent though they tended to be church goers. Amazing how the prudes now come from the left, although lefties have always been anti-arms.
Oh believe me. If they thought that going after non-retro video games and ruining them was hard with the pushback, good luck with the retro games. Because at this rate, when they try to go for retro games, they'll have both the new generations of gamers *AND* the original retro gamers on them. And if I had to choose between siding with the crazy wokies or the retro gamers, I'm going the retro gamers. Those retro gamers will have built a life, probably served in the military, and will absolutely lay the smack down on the rainbow haired land whale pin cushions with ease.
@@NerineArima Pokémon Emerald's OST SLAPS
you can download any retro game.....there are many repositories online.
why are you scared? are you a snowflake?
Retro Games include Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii U now. A lot of that stuff had graphics better than new games of today. Also, they don't have Live Service BS, Battle Passes, and fewer Microtransactions.
Silent Hill 3 and a few others from PS2 era look better than a lot of new games.
Shit bro. When someone call ps3 or 360 a "retro" xD
Nintendo in current times is still one to care about. Both old and new.
Exactly. Before the Dark Times.... before DEI....
Me literally replaying old ps3 games on my ps4 over the new and current stuff on it, I’m not kidding you, heck I’m even playing ps1/2 games too more on it😂
Amen brother. I'm in my mid 40's and I can remember as a little kid getting an old Coleco Vision from a garage sale about a year after the NES was launched. Finally got my NES in 1988.
My boy is 3 and loves Daddy’s old games. He has his own custom stick with Sanwa parts in his favourite colour. He likes Lotus Turbo Challenge 2 on Amiga. Bubble Bobble and Street Fighter on Arcade. Mario 2 on SNES / NES and Luigi’s Mansion on GameCube. These games will live on for eternity because they are still fun and always will be.
Bubble Bobble - YES! I love that game (hell, the entire franchise pretty much).
Have you tried him with Rainbow Islands and Parasol Stars yet?
"Those aren't thumb sticks. They're for 2 players." Ah, let me introduce you to a game called Robotron.
I remember playing Virtual On in the arcade. It was a twin stick fighting game.
And this,my son, is Battlezone....👍😁👍
@@cyndanetierney6449that game was fantastic
Smash TV
@@Larry Total CARNAGE! I LOVE it!!!
guess new generation are getting tired of being lectured and want to take a rest and have fun playing games.
That’s the generation who love to lecture the older generation
@@devilslayer3548 Unfortunately that's generational
@@devilslayer3548It seems like a split with Gen z in my opinion. Some buy into that indoctrination and self-centered preachiness, while others are turned off from it and are disgusted by it.
I’ve been having lots of fun going back to GBA titles lately, although it hits harder on the nostalgia for me being older Gen Z, the very first games I played were GBA, and what a delightful console it is! Like a mini greatly improved SNES in the palm of one’s hand. Glad that younger Gen Z and Gen Alpha will know how fun gaming used to be.
As a gen Z who loves my n64 I see this as a win
Reject triple AAA bs and embrace indie/retro games!
If this was a universe sign I was looking for to build retro games and learn game dev, it's better be this
It checks out in my household for the most part. My 10 year old son plays only 4 games... Fortnite, Roblox, NHL & Madden. I can offer to take him to the video game store and offer to buy him a new game and he will just ask for V-Bucks or Robux. He couldnt care less about new games at all.
I refuse to get Robux for my nephews. But I will get them Steam cards and Switch games.
@@jaymethysell5111 you doing gaming Good.
Sounds less like a gamer and more like a normie that just plays the same thing over and over in a drone state 😢
@@Hecatom
Does roblox count as a normie game? But yeah, the other ones seem like normie games.
Based son
So a lot of kids today don't even like the modern stuff? That's hilarious. So much for the "modern audience."
because its destroyed by greed everything is a demo not a full complette game w consideration of customers enjoying it full in offline mode the best route is to not play.
Also because I suppose now AAA tend to ultra realism, which is what we don't really want, unless it's x-rated content
@@InnerEagle Yup, realistic graphics in games don't age well, although sometimes it's cool to appreciate. Realism in terms of gameplay generally makes them absolutely boring.
Two words really stood out to me here: "Futuristic Optimism". I think that wraps up the entire 80s-90s generations who grew up with these games' outlook towards the future in general. A very sharp contrast to all the doom and gloom *constantly* shoved down today's children's throats for no good reason at all.
It would seem these children have had enough of the pessimistic, pandering, BS and are branching out into positivity on their own. Awesome to see, imho.
I’m 25 yrs old and I still play my ps2 regularly it just never gets old for me
Me too. It’s my favourite games console of all time.
People often forget what it was like tk be a kid, kids don't like being treated like kids, talked down to, or having their hand held
Can't say I blame them.
Retro games entertained people, they didn't lecture people, and more importantly didn't have excessive monetization killing them. Monetization back then was limited to the number of quarters in your pocket and didn't drain your credit card/bank account like modern games can. Be neat if more people got in to things like the PICO-8 and put those games on an open source like console/handheld that takes the big AAA companies out of the picture more.
its funny because in trying to indoctrinate kids like reapers from mass effect they ended up just making thier agenda a fad that passed real quick.
My kids are Gen-Alpha and ever since they discovered my old NES, SNES and Genesis, they keep asking me if they can play them. It does my heart good to see them enjoy the old Sonic and Mario games I grew up playing.
With indies often looking like older games I'm not surprised. Not everyone craves ultra realistic graphics. Games were just fun, and they still are.
My eyes hurts when I see ultra detailed stuff when I game, like really
I’m Gen Z and my fascination with retro games came from getting an hand me down n64 when I was in kindergarten and watching ScrewAttack and Normal Boots videos from back in the day.
Try BattleTanx and BattleTanx: Global Assault if you haven't already. It's the GOAT vehicular shooters on the N64. It has amazing multi-player, too.
@leafyfeathers
similar thing with me lol
I got my Mom’s shared n64 collection with 7 games included (no shovelware) it’s awesome.
I ended up with my parents PS1. I still have the games, but traded the PS1 with a friend for an N64. Currently have StarCraft 64 in the slot. Also have the OG Super Smash Brothers, Hexen, and Forsaken 64. Eyeing Perfect Dark as my next game.
I was born in 2000.
Edit: do you have an expansion pak? I bought one so I could play Brood War.
@@aiodensghost8645 I do have an expansion pack but unfortunately it's not for sale. As for the games get Perfect Dark IMMEDIATELY. I shit you not it's better than Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time. It's the GOAT N64 game hands down.
Gen Z Gamers Choosing NORMAL Games Over New WOKE Titles.
How the fuck are lethal company, helldivers 2, and garten of Banban woke?
@@Cubeytheawesome I don't know about 2 of those games have only heard of Hell Divers, Not all that interested as I have a PlayStation 2 up and running again.
@@nowhere529 based
@Cubeytheawesome indie are normal too in my eyes, expect Banban because it's garbage. Helldivers 2 is atleast caring about fun.
You can't call everything you disagree with "woke".
No Microtransactions, no Required Online Connection and it was all Physical Media, when that cartridge was made it HAD to be perfect, there was no broken releases and no day one patches that lasted for months
This makes me happy to hear. I’m 48 and have been gaming my entire life.
I don't exactly blame them. I've said this before, but games don't need to be a huge production with a lengthy narrative attached to it. Instead of wasting all this money on cutscenes and such, maybe they should just focus on the actual game.
I've never understood why you HAD to have stupidly hi-res photorealistic face and mocap characters with 20 hours of unskippable cutscenes for perhaps 10 hours of actual game time, and microtransactions for everything.
Just give us an enjoyable and entertaining game without all that crap and just focus on delivering FUN!
@@cocodojo Because they are too insecure about it, all they wanted to do was a movie or a tv series instead of that game
It's what people said: Modern developers are so obsessed with the future that they forgot to look at the past.
For me, I've stopped to play anything past 2014. The only two excessions were the Zeldas.
Nintendo still holds to the "make the game fun" in most aspects. They are often 5 years behind everyone though, so that works to their benefit here. Now lets see if we can course correct before they 'catch up'.
@@archmagemc3561We cannot allow them to join the circus.
The asnimia The bunker is good game that came out recently about a year ago. A good horror game that isn't too long, depending on your gaming skill and memory skill.
@@archmagemc3561They most likely won’t join the circus. They are very too set in their ways to do something to that to their ips in general.
@@mrconroy4672 Perhaps I think we'll get the more idealized woke reterhic that the woke don't even follow. Equality. The princess peach game for example is just better Ballen Wanderworld. Its not amazing, but its cute and decent enough. So we'll probably get a few more experimental stuff out of them using characters they don't use as often and thats interesting.
1- price. Modern games are getting more and more expensive, especially if you want a full experience (dlcs, microtransactions, etc)
2- acessibility. If you want to play a AAA game that just came out you need top of the line hardware. PS2 era and older can run on a potato laptop.
And the most important one
3- entertainment. Somewhere along the line big devs forgot that the primary objective of a game is to be FUN
Imagine being that age and having this back catalog of quality games going back for decades. And they're all around $10.
They were mostly complete and didn’t have agenda before fun. Now we have companies like Naught Dog run off the idea like “we don’t use the word fun”. 🙄
Even the big AAA of the time had more heart and intention to entertain.
Except E.T! 🤣🤣🤣 Man that was bad 😂
@@geerumpus2418 fr 😂😂😂
@@geerumpus2418He had only a week to put that crap out.
24 year old here, replayed Gran Turismo 4 again and its so much better than when I played it originally as a kid. The complete experience, no live service, the sincerity of the fun, no DLC... we really had it good.
Can you honestly blame them. Retro games are full games without the constant bugs and glitches of modern games.
Wow shocker, you mean games that don't have a road map, battle pass, micro transactions, multiple patches to add in "DLC". Just full games at release aimed for fun, not "we'll fix it later."
And if it's broke, they just patch the game, instead of anything else
Retro games are 100% complete without anything extra to pay for, have more variety, and don't carry any "modern audiences" social baggage. They're just games.
"But you can't mod older games"
(laughs in cheats)
@@theguybehindyou4762
"But you can't mod older games"
* Me playing Mario 64 on Project64, with Texture Mods * : "come again?"
@@theguybehindyou4762 Not true. There's a million vintage Tomb Raider mods, and even classic Final Fantasy games from the PS1 era have been modded. Plus the million classic GTA mods.
@@BeatmasterAC
You're still playing Super Mario 64 on Project64?!
Fans of that game have made a de-compilation port of that game for Windows, Linux, Android, and various other platforms. And that port has many forks like sm64ex-coop which brings online multiplayer into the game and even has a dedicated modding community of its own.
Even Project64 isn't even the best N64 emulator out there anymore as simple64, RMG (Rosalie's Mupen GUI), and the 'Mupen64Plus-Next' core for libretro frontends (such as Retroarch) exist.
@@Astolfo2001
* channelling my inner Galen Erso * : "It's a peaceful Life. *
On a serious note tho, I am not following much the Nintendo Emulation anymore. The only Emulator i keep up to date and use more often is PCSX2.
Video games are often great because of the gameplay, not the graphical looks of it.
You will play a game more so because it is fun rather than "it looks pretty". That's one core reason we have such a thriving Indie game genre.
Graphics have always been a supplemental addition; They never truly defined how a game will feel to the consumer.
Right on, Kneon. I lived through the 1990s and it was hell where I come from, but eventually as I gotten older, I met different kinds of people that all of us had a commonality among us and that was video games. Good times. Good video.
I hear there is a trend that the GenZ is largely rejecting modern AAA gaming. They are focused on retros and indies.
It's not rocket science to figure out why. They've gone where the passion is. All those giant soulless corporations were once smaller and driven by passion too.
It's the cycle. The industry is getting old enough that we can start to see the pattern. The cycle begins anew.
Which means there is hope ..
@RoseBaggins
There was always hope, as long as gamers learn to code and there is passion in their hearts to make interesting and fun games.
I hear gen z males are far more conservative, while gen z females... unfortunately 'think' with their feelings. But otherwise, how could anyone grow up with this insanity pushed on them and then want more of it? Personally i was extremely rebellious as a kid, which got me into a LOT of trouble in my teens, eventually spending a few years in juvie. I could not stand not being allowed, making own choices, and being told what to think or believe. I wanted to just be my own person. If i was growing up these days, oh I'd be finished, I'd be in more trouble than anyone would know what to do with. I'd never accept what they're pushing in schools, I'd mock everything so bad, ridicule relentlessly, send the activist "teachers" home crying and having breakdowns. seriously, i didn't give a F. So hopefully there's still people like me now.
Humanity is returning to normality.
"All those giant soulless corporations were once smaller and driven by passion too." For some reason, that reminded me of the Glukkons from Oddworld. In the lore of Oddworld, the Glukkons were once a deeply spiritual tribal race, who were close friends with the Mudokans. But after the Mudokan Moon (Which is a literal moon with a Mudokan's handprint on it) appeared one night, the Mudokans proclaimed themselves to be the chosen ones. This outraged the Glukkons, who turned to industry and technology, and eventually grew powerful enough to enslave the Mudokans. And now they've completely forgotten their past.
This will terrify AAA studios. Meanwhile, I'm showing my younger cousins my backlog on Steam and my emulation collections, watching their eyes light up at the older games I have on hand. Happy gaming to both young and old.
I’m not they are terrify
No it wont. Volition was insulting fans right after releasing Saints Row 2022. These guys are too stupid to understand why they suck.
Triple A will continue to insult gamers & try to copy retro best they can with their own woke spin on things. But nothing will work & ultimately gaming may become more of a niche again. They got greedy & overspent while being overly idological In the process. They're doomed long term.
@@supahkoopatvOr better, reject triple AAA gaming and embrace indie and AA gaming.
This is why it's better to have a small soulful studio rather than a big shitty soulless corporation.
The older gamer sensei introducing the younger apprentices to their shared gaming history. Wonderful. o7
Retro games have everything you need, no DLC or micro transactions
I've noticed this for the last 5 years because I work mostly with Millennials and I teach Gen-Z and Alpha. They are really fascinated by older video games. I was just talking with a student about the first Armored Core game on the Playstation 1. They love gaming in the 5th and 6th gen consoles in particular.
Something no one wants to talk about is that our technology has been hitting diminishing returns for a long time, and hardware has significantly bottlenecked. The message is always that tech will just get better and better forever, but no one counts the high cost for precisely how much better it will get (smaller and smaller increments each time).
Yeah. It's for that reason that I can't really consider anything from the past few console generations "retro" despite them having arguably been around for what used to be long enough to have that label, because they're just less and less distinguishable from modern stuff in terms of advancements, the biggest difference is just that they were often better and actually finished at the time which is solely the fault of modern games not clearing the bar anymore. Some like to say "retro" is defined by being x amount of years ago specifically, but if things evolve less and less with each year with diminishing returns and titles from x years ago are now virtually indistinguishable from modern stuff and could have easily been current-day games in many ways, are those games _really_ "retro," despite being around x years old?
and besides, better graphics just dont beat superior gameplay. And on top the more realistic a game tries to be, the more poorly it tends to age
Millennial lifelong gamer here, I've grown to really enjoy pinball when I go out and find one at a pub or whatever. Something about the analogue and real physics based nature of it makes them a lot of fun. There's also the sheer mechanical complexity of the machines and it's pretty cool how they work. Would love to own a vintage Star Wars or Black Knight machine in my home one day.
There is bound to be an analog renaissance sooner than later, definitely within 2 generations.
Pinball is such an awesome game and hobby to get into
@@daftpunk89 So expensive though unless you find a good Barcade doing 25 cent games. Makes sense though with them needing maintenence.
pinball is like a video game before video games. it was popular even in the 80s and 90s and people would compare it to video games.
@@belstar1128 I just looked this up and they said modern pinball machines first started arriving in the 1930's WTF?!
Thanks for the mention! Also it’s cool to hear the kids know the score.
I'm Gen-Z and I've been going back to play retro games since I was 7 or 8 when I got Sonic classic collection on my DSi.
Even now whenever there's nothing new or interesting out I watch old trailers, play, learn and marvel at the history of what came around back then just to see what I missed out on.
Retro is about fun, these game journalists don’t understand fun
I'm honestly starting to like Gen Z. I'm so proud of them. 😄
I can't wait to see them discover BattleTanx and F-Zero.
I'm Gen Z, and I remember playing battle tanks as a kid.
Let's show them the power of F-Zero. ✊🏽
(Starts dash dancing)
@@veggsbacon1891Is that the one with Star Fox I know of him since super smash bros brawl and ultimate
I actually play some f zero and it alot more challenging as i thought it would be
Battle Tanx was super fun, but the controls were trash. It would be really hard to go back to.
Kids, go play “The Guardian Legend” on NES, you’ll be amazed at its depth.
Im 23. On the older side of gen Z. The best game i played in 2023 was Final Fantasy 4.
I was fortunate to see the birth of arcades and video games as well. Born in 74. The atmosphere in an 80's arcade with all the different sounds of classic machines like Pac-Man, Phoenix, Kung Fu Master etc, was amazing at the time.
do you currently view video games as "childish"? im just curious because i do not. but i was born in 1980 ; so videogames are a part of me .
@@ChickenMcThiccken Great past time for young and old. Gauntlet Arcade game play was great for child development or adults co-opting, blow off steam, learn to get along.
That is what I think of when I think of an arcade, the 80's and early 90's arcades mostly had games from the 80's and the newer early 90's games ('90-'92) were closer to a game from the late 80's.
I believe it. I setup my old NES and SNES for my daughter's 9th birthday party and the kids went nuts over Duck Hunt.
The classic rules of "Its my turn when you die" and the controller gets passes around to everyone as they try to figure out how to beat that level on Super Mario Bros.
i think video games will have infinite influence in children. meaning video games in general ; will "never lose popularity"
as a 13yo i can confirm i really enjoy older games. it astonishes me how much videogames have came since then back from the early 80s to the PS5 and the Series X, but recently the efforts that are put in to make a triple A title has dropped alot. The more recent COD games are very pay to win even after spending your lifes budget on the game and it still comes with in game purchases. even my father still uses the same pc he built in 2018 to play his older games like DOOM 2016 and he dosent want to upgrade because no one makes good games anymore. that one time when i found my fathers PS1 i was curious what games were like back then. when we hooked it up to a CRT thats when i fell in love with retro games. now i have multiple consoles, a SNES, PS1, PS2, Wii, and a origional Xbox. I also have a Steamdeck so i can emulate some consoles and games that i dont have.
Oh yeah, started playing Classic Battlefront and Classic Battlefront 2.
I was just in Texas to see the eclipse and managed to go to the video game museum in dallas. It was packed with families! young kids were excited to see all the old games their parents played. The best part was there are working versions of all the old consoles that you can actually play with
I was there too at NVM and it's at Frisco, TX by the way. It was nice to make a trip down at memory lane.
It's really a cool place to visit if you like old games. They really try to make it "museum like" in that they have displays and demonstrations from that time period for things like internet speed differences, a giant pong game, Oregon Trail installed on old original retro computers. It's very interactive and at the end is an arcade with maybe 30 classic video games you can play with quarters. If you have kids of almost any age they will love seeing all of these treasures that many didn't even know existed.
Old video games were focused on being fun. They also had to release in their best condition in order to be successful. They couldn’t add microtransactions to the game, nor could they patch the game easily post launch.
No season passes, battle passes, loot boxes, gatchas, pre-order exclusives, paid DLCs, microtransactions, or macrotransactions.
Another thing is, many games these days also have issues like FOMO from battle passes, constant micro transactions, the "need" to be on almost every day for MMOs. Games from the 80s/90s lack any of that. It's just you playing a game. "Expansion packs" for games like Doom/Quake generally added a lot more additional playtime and sometimes new features.
Also, Malls were our version of VRChat to make a more accurate comparison. 70s/80s/90s kids hung out at the mall, whereas with malls now dying it's more common to see some kids on VRChat.
While I didn't grow up with arcade games per se. It warms my heart that younger people appreciate gaming in its finest form: pure fun. That's what games are for fun and not to be a chore. The industry has forgotten about that.
The industry didn't forget about it, they pushed the old industry out in order to set camp for their lectures. It is up to us to wait it out until they all burnt up their ESG money and leave.
@@Chraanthat's not going to work because what if they decided that there is no longer making any more video games
@@animezilla4486 That's the best case scenario, because we don't want "their" games. When no easy money is to be made, then only the ones with passion are remaining, and these are the ones who make good games.
it was a place to 'hang out at"". i can't even recall the amount of hours i would spend at an arcade. parents kept me in line by only giving me 2 dollars. but i learned to make that 2 dollars last LOL
I think an underrated attraction to retro games is that the lower fidelity makes you engage your imagination in a way that modern/realistic games just don't.
I imagine that to be a very minor reason,
not saying that this attraction happens to like 1 or 2 people,
but people generally like new and shiny stuff over old.
It's probably due to a whole slew of reasons, some of those reasons, I can easily imagine.
I'm 23 and eversince I was 5 years old I got addicted to my GBA. When I was 7 I decided to look for a way to get more GBA games (we moved to a differnt country where they didn't sell anything Nintendo related) and I came across emulators and eversince that day the main way I game is through emulators. I even started playing other older consoles (NES, SNES, Genesis, N64...) but GBA is still my go to console (I even use an emulator for it on my phone). Sometimes I feel like I have beat every worthwhile GBA yet still I always find new stuff, which is mindblowing! I have played some newer games, but I feel like they lack the soul that retro games used to have, which is a shame really. I have never met another person my age who enjoys these games, so the video's title kinda shocked, but I'm glad and I hope to meet someone like that someday!
As someone who is Gen Z, yeah I like to play retro games more then newer games. That’s the reason why I have a GameCube and a Sega Saturn
This is reminding of that scene in Back to the Future part 2 where Marty shows a couple kids how to play the Western arcade cabinet. Except this time, instead of showing disgust, the kids these days are actually curious.
"Nostalgia Glasses" isn't an excuse anymore. Older games are objectively better if even new audiences are more invested in them compared to modern games.
Oh yeah, that scene ... 2015 did not turn out the way the y promised us. 😜
@@RoseBaggins Indeed.
Also, fun fact. One of those kids was played by Elijah Woods.
probably the reaction you would have gotten in from kids in 2005
@@belstar1128 Perhaps. Though I personally enjoyed arcade cabinets in 2005, and I was a kid then.
@@taqresu5865 yea but were those games from the 80s? or from the late 90s and 2000s. i know neogeo games were still everywhere at the time. and stuff like time crisis and virtual cop and all the racing games. but those are more modern than 80s games
I've noticed this observation too... more Gen Z'ers are sticking with retro games, and that gives hope that the youth are not all lost, at least in this regard
Thank you for using my Tweet in your video! ❤ I am a younger player who plays retro games!
Pong came out in 1972, gaming is 52 years old.
pong did not interest me. but when i saw mario for the first time. IT WAS MINE!!!
Even Gen Z has abandoned modern gaming.
Rest In Pieces, AAA.
Kneon, these are the kinds of videos that drew me to your channel. The passion you and Geeky have for gaming, comics, and life in the 80s and 90s is so refreshing to see because so much of the "modern" media is a hate for the past. I too feel blessed to have been born in the 80s and get to grow with the gaming industry. I loved the 90s commercials that Sega did talking about how Nintendo was for babies as they appealed to angsty 90s tweens....what a great time to be alive.
This is exactly why for the past decade or so i have resorted to going the retro gaming route and got back to playing my Nintendo 64 along with Goldeneye 007, Super Smash Bros, and Mario Kart 64. I want to be entertained as opposed to “messaged” or corrupted by politics because there was so much better quality games from 70’s arcades and video games all through the early-mid 2000’s in my opinion. 🎮
It's not just nostalgia, it's escapism and play quality not defined by modern-day capacities, which arguably is what's been limited by creators and their "sensibilities".
Surprise surprise people actually want games that aren't a second job without the pay.