Apple Is Going To Make Nintendo Very Angry...
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2024
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time I look at the surprising development where Apple who once famously never let an emulator on their store has finally caved in and while it's awesome, It dropped me down a rabbit hole of finding out just how much other emulators have grown to the point where we can now PC game under mobile devices. Thanks for watching!
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Aw poor billion dollar corporation is pissed at a trillion dollar corporation.
Picking on the little guy is so tuff 🙄
More like “Aw poor billion dollar corporation is pissed at a random emulator by a small team”
Apple is just the messenger by it being on their App Store, so Nintendo probably won’t shoot them
@@carlostapia2822 Nintendo's not a little guy. They're a big guy who regularly bullies actual little guys: emulator developers.
Big bank takes little bank?
@@mjc0961 uhh carlo was being sarcastic
Nintendo: “Cease and-“
Apple: “We have a lot more money than you.”
Court might favour Nintendo if they had a case there
Well my reply to the thread under me got hidden for some reason so I'll summarize my yapping, Apple bigger Nintendo Smaller
Out of touch People could wane in on either side however Nintendo will get more leniency as they're not a monopoly, the end
Also hate that Apple has That charge fee per 3rd party installs that's why the app is paid for the EU bros, Sadge
@@LUCAS420BLZ major word IF
YES! Get Them, Apple!
Lucas it's already been determined that emulators are perfectly legal. Nintendo just bullies emulators off the Internet with big money. A small emulator group just can't gather the money to fight their evil and garbage suits.
@@d10_br4ndo8 I mean yeah but given apple lost this case due to app store monopolizing they were forced to comply with allowing 3rd party app stores which allowed emulators
The paid version is still Apple being scummy charging devs an install fee which is why it's paid exclusivell for the EU bros
I never downloaded an app so fast in all my darn life. I’m over here playing MarioKart on my iPhone with a ps4 controller in my truck waiting to start my shift. Happy days
Could you tell me where to get roms?
@@brenchong7767 Google them. There are tons of sites, you'll find the ones you like. No one will tell you as 1 that's a good way to get banned and 2 if we all point at a specific site, it is likely to get shut down.
@@brenchong7767 🏴☠️
@@brenchong7767 Internet Archive has a DMCA excemption. It's legal there.
@@brenchong7767 dude there's literally no need to ask anywhere, Nintendo doesn't seem to take any pages down for some reason, can find those with some keyboard presses
My favorite mobile emulation experience was on my old android that had a slide out keyboard. Perfect for actual button mapping and responsive controls
Remember the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play? This was peak mobile gaming.
@@-eMpTy-yessir was so sick playing emulators on that
@@-eMpTy-yup. My favorite smartphone I ever had, I wish they’d make a modern one. Playing ps1 games on a phone with actual PlayStation buttons was CRAZY back then.
As an android dude, welcome to the emulation community apple users.
Gba4ios was there very long ago. Delta is the rebirth of it
As someone who was android but got a iPhone because it was free but ended up finding out I could not do emulation without loopholes I’m happy I don’t have to jailbreak and sideload now. I’m still going back to android as soon as I can though lmao. But I’m happy for iPhone and hope they become as free as android steadfast iPhone brothas.
@@aaron-gz delta has been there for 6+ years as well.
Thanks for not being like “HaHa we android users have had emulation for years”
Thank you 😊
If you anger Nintendo, you're doing something right
@OG_Sneert0130 naw, thats an insult of gay people
Agreed
True I mean nintendo a yakuza game
We emulating to piss off Nintendo on the App Store on this one Bois!
@@shinjiikari1021lmao💀
Totally with you on the importance of game preservation and the freedom to emulate. It's interesting how Apple is finally opening up to emulation, even if they're super late in the game. I can't quite believe it either, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
I dont know, Apple isnt better than Nintendo.
@@AntiGrieferGamesNot many mega companies are great. But any shithole is better than Nintendo.
You have to thank the European Union for that, not Apple lmao.
I think it’s also interesting that this development is coming after Apple lost its own emulator lawsuit against Corellium relatively recently. This is all just conjecture and I can’t guess at what goes on inside an Apple boardroom, but I’m wondering if that had any correlation to this sudden change in their wider stance on emulation in general.
Dead internet theory
I remember my first Symbian Nokia smartphone in early 2000s. Playing GBC and SNES titles on a device with 4MB internal storage was WILD!
It's nice that Apple finally catches up.
GBA “dbz buu’s fury” 🫡
Emulation must be protected. Game preservation must be protected.
Yus!
As a media preservationist, you're right. Especially when it comes to bootleg releases or extremely obscure systems.
time to start backing up all those torrents
Sadly nintendo has the power to kill non official emulation since they want to control emulation
@SuperKlondike64 what's annoying is we're also called pirates too which is stupid
If Nintendo would sell their old games on the app store, I would paid a few bucks for old games but no you have to rebuy the same game on their new device each time.
They don’t even let you buy a lot of those classics. Now you need to stay subscribed forever
Not even that, since they don't relelase the games on the new devices.
There is always another way. Break free of your shackles. A 30 year old game that sold for five bucks shouldn't be going for five hundred dollars on amazon. There is always a free alternative. Use your brain, use your best friend, google.
@@MelodyIV Aka, piracy for a game that should've lost copyright protection a long time ago after being several gens out of production. Who gives a damn at this point to skirt around the lingo, handheld vendors certainly don't so why should we?
I would happily pay $5 for Pokémon fire red on the App Store. Squandered money
This was honestly SUCH valuable information, thank you!! I'm about to take a log trip and have about 300 old SNES ROMs that can now come along too, they all seem to work great so far on that emulator. Great call covering this!
Downloading it now. Lets see what up. Thanks for the recommendation Muhta!
Apple vs Nintendo lawsuit should be a juicy one
they’re not suing apple. apple would slap them around in court. this isn’t a small emulator developer they’re up against, this is apple. they can’t just bully it off the internet with big money, emulation by law is completely legal. nintendo has no case against apple even if they did try and go to court over this
@@ninjafrog6966thats why he said it would be a juicy one
That would be hilarious if that happens.
Fun fact: Apple didn’t make the emulator.
Nintendo can’t sue Apple, just like they can’t sue Google.
Emulators are legal. What’s illegal is pirating roms, and neither Apple nor Google allows that.
Finally, I can play gambling without real money thanks to Luigi
super mario 64 ds minigames could 100% be a standalone ds game
@corndoggoiscool8223 I was playing the NSMB version, but yeah they absolutely can
W game
@@starsuper64 On the Nintendo DS. Luigi got me addicted to gambling.😂
12:27 "This is actually uncharted territory"
Next week: "RPCS3 gets announced for iOS with full compatibility for Uncharted trilogy"
Is this riyal?
Delta has been very useful for when I wanted to play pokemon mmo with either my older or younger brother, they both were on PC and I was chilling on my phone 10/10 would reccomend
Nintendo is so late to the "Phone emulators are illegal on phones" they shouldn't have any ground to bitch about it now. Its their fault for being slow to start
Again
They've literally made no comment. Stop spreading misinformation.
@@Gala_KM Probably not an unfair assumption that Nintendo isn't a fan of this.
@@MultiCool55its not unfair, its fucking stupid, were getting of something that doesnt happen lmao
old pokemon games are HUNDREDS of dollars for this reason. They refuse to release the games on their own switch so it can stop the toxic market, but also wanna bitch about pirating. Like everyone said - we would buy the official games if they were fair.
As a competitive pokemon player, having official older games would be helpful to us. It would help us get easier access to certain mons - and actually be able to transfer them to a new game. (since you obviously cant transfer mons from your emulator.) screw Nintendo they deserve 0 sympathy.
Nintendo could just offer their old games on all platforms like Steam/AppStore/PlayStore and all of this wouldn't be any news. They did it to themselves.
You act like people would buy it.
People just want something to complain about, they don’t actually care😮💨
@@bigman4487dirty brokies can't flesh out the $500 for a gameboy sp 😂
@@RetreatSequelit's funny because Nintendo could be making a lot of money by selling their games. They make no money from someone buying a gameboy and a bunch of games on eBay lol.
@@bigman4487 they would actually, they genuinely would but they don't want to sell them
There are a lot of poor people that would still download Nintendo games for free no matter what.
lol, Thanks Muta! I just got back into Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubadour, been almost a decade since I last played it, coincidentally on my jailbroken iPhone; imma get this right away.
I knew I’d eventually see you covering this. I don’t know how they’re getting away with it but it’s awesome!
Im literally playing Pokemon on my phone as this dropped hahahaha
What kinda team are you rocking?
i started pokemon crystal just now
Same brother, been playing Pokemon White
Same, i'm playing Pokemon Sun on Citra, haha
Playing Kirby 64 as this dropped
I love delta and am happy to see it finally hit the app store (the dev made it like 10 years ago and apple said no so he made his own store)
Shoutouts to everyone who used to use it when it was called "GBA4iOS" in 2013-2019. You know who you all are.
Dev be like : "Fine. I'll do it myself!"
Riley Testut testing his in testing app store.
Man I was wondering when you’d make a video on this! 😆
Appreciate it the info pimpin. We’re glad you’re doing well.
Surely a matter of time before Dreamcast,psp, ps1/2 etc
Retro arch will cover most retro systems.. not too sure on emulators past N64 and PS1
Provedence emulator on AltStore has psp/ps1 support already
@@garystinten9339 the current best emulators for android are ppsspp for psp, NetherSX2 for ps2 (netherSX2 is modified version of aethrSX2 that is open source and afree with significantly performance improvements) citra for 3ds and dolphin emulator for gamecube and wii.
@@garystinten9339 the current best emulators for android are ppsspp for psp, NetherSX2 for ps2 (netherSX2 is modified version of aethrSX2 that is open source and adfree with significant performance improvements) citra for 3ds and dolphin emulator for gamecube/wii
@@garystinten9339 @garystinten9339 the current best emulators for android are ppsspp for psp, NetherSX2 for ps2, citra for 3ds and dolphin emulator for gamecube and wii.
I'm glad you mentioned Winlater, because for the longest time i was like there has to be some way to get certain files to run on arm based systems.
Going to look into this more and probably try it. Thank you Muta!
DUDE I was playing MGS3 on my Aether emulator the second you mentioned emulating on an android device using Aether. A man after my own heart ❤
I remember always needing to skirt around apples updates in order to get emulators on my phone, good to see that those days are coming to an end.
I remember when I had an iPhone 5s. I used to use this emulator then. Crazy how little the icon has changed.
Also I use Winlator on my tablet for Touhou. It has issues running on my OP12 but soon we should get Cassia which is hopefully much better on Android.
Nintendo: You can’t allow emulators Apple,we’re gonna sue yo….
Apple: Womp Womp
Nintendo: HOW DARE YOU, HOW ABSOLUTELY DARE YOU!!!
Apple: Womp womp
Nintendo isn't suing anybody. they don't go after retro emulators.
@@Gala_KM cough dolphin cough
@@stereokuujiThey didn’t go after Dolphin.
@@waterheart95 They did, they just didn't have a case
Switched to iOS last month and the only thing I projected I’d miss are emulators. And just as I switch over, Riley Testut’s work moves from having to be sideloaded to being available on the app store. What a time to switch.
The 7th generation is totally retro gaming now. Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis was retro to the 7th gen and it was 15-17 years younger than it. 7th gen is now 18-19 years old and it started with the X360.
got this notification while playing pokemon platinum on delta. what are the odds
Based platinum player
w game right there
I’m playing Pokémon black rn
Nice
How far are you now in the game
These still sketch me out so I was waiting for the Muta video
Playing Leaf Green version and I feel like a kid again. I haven't played since I was 10 or 11. Thank you for making a video about this, otherwise I would have never heard of it.
I waited for you to talk about this before installing the app.
Well, i suppose i'd be talking for a lot of the people here: 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!'
The 1v1 I did NOT have on my bingo card
😂 This one lmfao
:popcorn:
What most people expect isn’t going to end up being reality (fortunately or unfortunately). Big companies are risk-averse enough to want to avoid tedious litigation against other big companies if they can help it, it doesn’t benefit either Nintendo or Apple to spend ages suing one another.
Apple is likely going to side with Nintendo if Nintendo gives them cause to take down Delta, but the fact Nintendo has not acted against Delta yet even though it’s been in the headlines and at the top of the App Store for a week shows that they probably trust Apple’s vetting process for emulators (or are just concerned for their own finances or PR) enough not to do it. Apple isn’t just allowing emulators willy-nilly either, there’s actual regulation of what they allow to be hosted, which they have enforced even after lifting the overall ban-perhaps it’s this process Nintendo trusts enough to not care too much about Delta.
I’m 4 badges in on sapphire already 🙏🏾
Got this app last night and boy ohh boy it’s great. Still can’t believe apple allowed this. Was waiting for a Muta video on this.
Was waiting for you to make a video about that.
Bad news for Nintendo 99.9999% of the time is good new for the people.
This is incredible, thanks for sharing Muta!
Nokia with the snake is SUPER old school. I was at least writing J2ME and BREW games in '02 and '03. Snake was a default firmware game - it came stock with the firmware since it's inception essentially. Prior to writing BREW and J2ME games I worked on the firmware while at Kycoera Wireless. If you had a Nokia you more than likely downloaded some J2ME games.
Everything I could have asked for. Thanks for the heads up!!!
I remember using this emulator when it was gba4ios. Really happy more people can use it now.
There was a GBA emulator that made it onto the App Store days ago but it was taken down as it was basically a fork of the code from GBA4iOS with ads and an absurd amount of tracking behind it that tapped into personal data.
Ohhh noes! not the poor multi million dollar company 😱
How oh how will the rich company ever survive? 😢
its multi BILLION dude
@@heyjeySigmait’s multi hundred BILLION dude
Million? Lol. That’s chump change.
@@heyjeySigma For apple, they have $162.1 billion. That’s only Cash on Hand, too. Their actual full total is $383.29 billion in US dollars.
3:11 That mouse cursor had me. I thought it's a dirt on my phone.
3:23 you don't have to pay for altstore... if you want to go the sideloading route (or you're outside the eu). When it comes to installing it in the eu, I have a feeling the price might be due to some apple shenanigans with the developer having to pay money to allow people to install it.
Mutahar is my daily newspaper in the morning.
Thanks man 👌
Mutahar knows EXACTLY which Pokémon game was the best, thank you for showing everyone it was Crystal.
The Gen II remakes are infinitely so much better than Gen II
ive been looking for a good priced crystal cartridge for so long
at least i got yellow and green
gen 2 is literally the worst dawg
@@masonmurphy5402
Crystal doesn't have Mareep. It's the worst gen 2 game and the worst "third version".
I remember having gba4ios back in like freshman year of highschool before it got killed. Thank god it has returned in full glory
I remember 10 years ago, if you wanted to sideload an emulator on ios, you had to push back the date by 2 days to get around certificate revokations
I literally downloaded this same app like 2 days ago not even knowing what it was, I missed playing Mario 64 DS
You downloaded an app without knowing what it was??. Bro....maybe you should stick with an iPhone
@@Balloliver6902fr wtf 😭😭
@@Balloliver6902I guess I should have specified “not knowing the full extent of its capabilities”, anyone with eyes can read a description before downloading an app
@oOArsonist oh okay. You had me worried there for a sec 😅.
I sideloaded delta one day before it came on the App Store and me and my friend we’re playing a pokemon diamond randomizer. He came to school the next day and it was on the App Store. Guess I got early access
when i saw the winlator gta it immedieatly reminded me of those "free mobile gta" ads
for some additional perspective, i remember running ds emulators on my android devices years ago and it could barely run most games. now delta is working almost perfectly and now we are apparently at this state for PC games on android.
I've only had one iPhone, but I still have fond memories getting around things to download GBA4ios 10 years ago but I'm so happy to see this development for iOS users lol
Bro I was so happy to play Pokémon black 2 never got to play it only one I missed.
For anyone interested:
Android OS long ago used JIT compiling, called Dalvik.
But now it uses Ahead-of-Time compiling -> called Android Runtime (ART)
As phones and processing power raise, retro gaming emulators will raise too
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see ps5 games on mobile
Nintendo's just going to go haywire with trying to make Apple take it down if they ever lay their eyes on that emulator.
Then, it's all about whether Apple is man enough to stand their ground and tell them to piss off.
Let them.
Nintendo isn't going to do anything. They don't go after retro emulators.
@@Gala_KMthis is extremely wrong. Nintendo is constantly closing down emulators and going after retro emulation as a whole
Also even if it flies in the US they can hit them in Japanese court.
@@azenyrthey usually go after things that make money .
Emulator + apple vision pro would be pretty cool
It’s been wild playing Nintendo 64 and Super Nintendo games on my iPhone 14 with a ps5 controller.
From what I have tried out of this emulator, it is surprisingly versatile. Gives you info and links to the emulators and cores used as well, which is pretty neat for those new to emulation.
Nintendo: You cannot do that Apple!
Apple: Nuh Uh
Nintedo: F%CK u MeAn NUh - Uh
If this ends up as another lawsuit, I might as well get my damn popcorn lmao.
This is so nostalgic, I remember downloading it when it was gba4ios and you’d have to re sign the profiles and everything
Used to sign and load the Retroarch app when it was free. It's weird being able to just boot Delta up on the same old iPhone.
Long hair suits Mutahar surprisingly well
You were already able to emulate games on iOS, they just had to be side loaded and you can do it without modding. All this app does is make the process easier.
ikr lol. me and my buddies been known about this for a min. we use eclipse it's v good
That’s the main takeaway though: the fact that a full on emulator like Delta is just on the App Store now without any real downsides. Not groundbreaking but it will likely lead to more full emulators to come to iOS soon without requiring workarounds.
Now if only they’d enable JIT…
13 years ago i got my first Android. the Xperia Play. loved that thing. first thing i did was emulate games on it.
All I’m gonna say thank you for this info. Just downloaded it and got all my N65 childhood games up. Perfect Dark, Super Smash, No Mercy and F-Zero X works flawlessly on my iPhone.
Saw the thumbnail and immediately went to the AppStore to download
At least we got Retroarch for Android
That’s cute. There’s RetroArch for Apple too.
Yup, we also got Dolphin and other stuff.
Yea iOS has all the same stuff. I really don’t understand why people think they’re so great because they have an Android these days 🤣🤣 you guys sound like console fanboys from 2003
@NaterBater Android also has yuzu and other stuffs. Sure yuzu is discontinued but you can still get it
@@NaterBaterNo it doesn't have the same stuff android has wayy more options
Spent the weekend playing Ocarina of Time on Apple Vision Pro via Delta. So good.
been testing winlator and mobox on the sd 8 gen 3. the power and efficiency of arm devices are crazy
Corporate slap fight!!!
Actual battle of the billionaires
They’re not going to get into a fight. If anything, companies are willing to make concessions with one another-Apple would likely side with Nintendo if Nintendo presented reasonable cause to do a takedown and Nintendo probably trusts Apple’s own vetting process enough (remember Apple itself was willing to take down other emulators that didn’t meet its requirements after lifting the ban) to not go after an emulator it’s allowed.
It is such a dream come true to actually emulate and play old Nintendo games on my phone.
I was born too late to experience the gameboy generation myself, but being able to play Pokemon Emerald and Super Metroid on my Iphone is pretty sick!
Well I’ve been able to play these games on my iPhone for over 10 years. I mean I’m happy that other people are able to experience this I guess.
@@NaterBaterdawg we don’t care you commented this like 500 times
@@dripxiaoping5837 than why did you respond lol
@@NaterBater had to put u in ur place little man
@@dripxiaoping5837 oh thanks, like I said something wrong 🤣
bro i been waitin for this for years i cant believe they actually did it. i played dam near every gba pokemon game on my first android phone in middle school.
Playing SMB3 on an HTC hero was a tough time phones now are blessed to *easily* emulate pretty much anything up to PS2 maybe more
The iPhone has been jailbroken, and has had third party app stores and emulators on it since the iPhone 2 and 3 days.
yes but now its available for normies too
you can't jailbreak any iphone device higher than iPhone X
@@sub0rLainot true. iPhone 14 Pro Max can be jailbroken, but only if it’s below iOS 16.6.1 I believe
Technically you are wrong. Even the first iphone with ios was jailbroken and had an nes emulator. It did not start with the second iphone
@@sub0rLaiWho told you that lie lmao
A day Nintendo is angry is a day everyone is happy
Muta should move forward with this new Ice Cube inspired look.
As someone who used Delta whenever the option was available, this emulator is very nostalgic and dear to my heart. I remember popping in a ROM of Pokémon Yellow and getting a full team of Glitch Pokémon. I remember preforming countless glitches in my game and getting so many insane effects, literally breaking the game down to a pile of dust. I welcome this emulator on the App Store. It deserves it.
As much as I hate Apple, Nintendo really needs somebody to put them in their place and Apple could absolutely do that. Or Apple will just buy them.
people commenting before they even start watching the video are crazy 😅
Yeah, people are actually here telling things he's addressing in his videos and I'm dying of laughter
All like um actually you can sideload the app or um actually, you can jailbreak your I phone when bro is gonna address it😂
Some people just click on videos to comment and don’t even want to watch a 13 minute long video. 😂
i had my ipad for a long time now and i haven't used it for so long as well. I primarily used it to draw and watch movies but i can also do that both on my pc so it's just been gathering dust on my shelf. Thank god this emulator existed on apple devices now.
I remember playing gba4ios and delta 10 years ago and moving to android when emulations got harder. Now that apple can emulate i may even move back one day this is huge
"It doesn't matter what device you use."
Uh, Muta. My Galaxy Fold 4 begs to differ.
You can't do even 10% of the shit I do on my phone on an iPhone.
Arguing about Android vs iPhone just makes you look dumb. I prefer Android, but if someone prefers iPhone, that’s fine by me too. Why would you waste your time thinking about what phone some random stranger prefers?
When did I say that I do?
I was commenting about my specific device, which folds out into a larger tablet sized screen, and the fact that Apple doesn't have a folding device to do the same.
Hence, you can't do the things I need to do on my phone, on an iPhone.
@@Shreyas-S i have both :)
One's phone type and model is literally the definition of inconsequential.
just curious, but what exactly is all this stuff you’re doing that you couldn’t on an iPhone
I’m genuinely curious
Apple taking a morally correct stance against Nintendo? It feels strange, but I'm all for it.
They're being forced to, they have lawsuits being filed against them for things like this so this is them saving face
Got into emulating over the weekend. Playing those childhood classics i once thought i'f never be able to play again was so fun
The problem with JIT is that the software can write to memory which can be executed which leads to security issues.
MONUMENTAL day for ALL of us Iphone users. Major shout out to apple for allowing this.
Would love to see two shitty companies going at it
I've been playing a dino game called Path of Titans it's still in early access but it's cross plat on everything. I can play on my PC if I want to get sweaty af, I can kick back on the couch and play on my Xbox or if I'm stuck at work but getting the itch I can grow my dinos even on the clock because the account is linked across all platforms it's awesome. Can't wait to see what kind of games do this in the future
2:49 I no shit already had a Pokémon emerald ROM on my device that I immediately booted up when I saw this in my feed 😂
Who hates Ubisoft?
I do
Shut up it's not their turn yet.. it's Nintendo and Apple having a shit fight.
I don’t
Me!
They’re like ea they just cut and paste everything
Android vs Apple isn't "lame as fuck" it's literally consumer choice vs buying into a suffocating closed off brand that prevents the most basic of consumer practices.
Buying apple products is quite literally buying an inferior end user experience.
Not really iphone is better when it comes to apps android play store is full of trash apps and you can't really use the camera unless you want it to look like shit on Android iphone doesn't have that problem. Android fan base are clowns
@@bobbyharris2270 "There are more options therefore they're bad"
Stop coping.
Found the green bubble 😂
@@bobbyharris2270nuh uh my thing is better bro!
Your post right here is a perfect example of why Android vs Apple is lame as fuck. It's the fanboying. Apple has a lot of disadvantages and I use Android too, but to claim it's "buying an inferior end user experience" is just stupid. A lot of people liked the walled garden where everything works together easily and they don't care and would never use the things Apple locks them out of. People have preferences, stop being a dick and let them enjoy their thing while you enjoy your thing.
I'm a dev at Azul (who make Zulu OpenJDK and Zing), and can say that macOS does allow JIT, that is how almost all Java and .NET programs run on macOS. There are some great dev talks from Java architects and developers how Java "compilation" works under the hood.
I don't know how I was able to manage this, but way back in high school on the school issue ipads, I was able to get pokemon up and running on them 10+ years ago without jail breaking the device (as it was sanctioned by the school for students to use/help with note taking).