Transformer Rise of the Beasts: The One Nobody Saw
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- This franchise used to break box office records. Now it can hardly make a dent. But hey, at least they're finally making alright movies. Thats what I'd describe Rise of the Beasts as. Decent, flawed and one that nobody saw.
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0:00 Intro
1:31 What Even Happens?
6:11 Rise of The What?
7:34 The Good Stuff
8:59 The Bad Stuff
11:56 Scourge Sucks
12:57 No Bay. Hooray?
14:52 What Next? - Krátké a kreslené filmy
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Can you make a video about that shitty halo show , if not what about the 2 halo movies
You're an inventor.
@@GrayStream-pl7ot I'd like that but I'd enjoy a sidebar about the twisted metal series that was decent and perfect timing with the new fallout show apparently
hell yeah you do
Making a Beast Wars tie in Transformers movie set in New York in the 90’s without Rattrap is unforgivable
They didn't give a Krap about Beast Wars.
It was just a Stupid Gimmick to sell this Garbage Movie.
And no Dinobot or Tigatron, either. They were my favorite Maximals!
Preach
hell, cheetor and rhinox dont even talk and airazor died half way through
@@louisduarte8763 that I'm not gonna deny. It's sad we didn't see the other Maximals
The way you squeeze the imfamous “I’m an Inventor!” Moment one way or another in every Transformers video you’ve done never fails to get a chuckle out of me.
He didn't even play the clip, but we still heard the line in our heads.
Haven't seen the video yet, but I hope he worked in "the card" as well, because god, that's such a stupid fucking scene. The entire situation was so dumb. Why didn't they just write her to be eighteen? Or both of them as teens? Was someone on the writers team self reporting or something? What the hell happened there?
We can never let that be forgotten.
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@@hydromancer4916Bro what
@@hydromancer4916RAPIST
I’m genuinely surprised you didn’t talk about Optimus in this movie. In this movie he didn’t really care about humans or earth and just wanted to go home because he feels guilty about leaving his team stranded. It’s an interesting change for him compared to the bay films which made him more bloodthirsty as the films went on
It is another example of Hollywood not understanding Prime.
@@zemox2534agreed
@@zemox2534 Let's be real, not every Optimus is or should be like G1.
How is it an example of Hollywood not understanding prime, @zemox2534? This is the best adaptation of his, at least he shows character development and it's not just a hollow machine saying effect phrases
@@PepeGibon Actually yes He should be unless there is a clear AU being explored (Mirrorverse). Peter Cullen based the original OP on his marine corps brother who was HIS hero. I think changing that concept would be a slap in the face to the effort and genuine love Peter put into the original character.
The 80s GI Joe and Transformers cartoons canonically share the same universe, via Marissa Faireborn, who is the daughter of Flint (Dashiell Faireborn) and Lady Jaye. Flint also appears in an episode (although not by that name).
The two franchises have been joined since 1986.
Some of the most popular comics have gi joe characters in them
Yes, very true, but my worst fear is that the next Transformers movies are gonna be mostly G.I. Joe and not, ya know, Transformers.
Diaclone (the line that Transformers came from) also started out as a G.I. Joe-inspired line from Japan.
I don't get why people are so adamant against the crossover .
@@KamenRider1 because the GI Joe movies suck, and theyre worried that its gonna be "GI Joe with transformers" instead of "transformers with GI Joe".
I fully burst out laughing at the G.I. Joe reveal at the end. Setting that up in an Avengers-style post credits scene about Transformers is like setting up a sequel to Training Day at the end of Paw Patrol.
Hasbro Cinematic Universe
honestly i was hoping it would be sector 7, just makes more sense.
@@nathansquared2685
"S7 don't exist"
@@infsm27 The Mul-toy-verse
Well to be fair G.I.JOE and transformers have always existed in the same universe they just never capitalized on it except for the comics and a couple toys, hell one of the main characters from the G1 Transformers Continuity Marissa Fairborn is Flint's daughter.
Flint is one of the JOE's for those who aren't familiar with the lore.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, we will never have a good enough Transformers movie until we get a scene where 2 Autobots sit across from each other and talk about something OTHER than humans or the mission.
The bechdel test, autobots edition
@@32BitJunkie Exactly.
Call it the "Mechdel test."
I could've sworn there was at least one scene like that in one of this movies.
At least one.
@@Knick3607Sentinel Prime and Optimus Prime kinda have one in Dark of the Moon, where they talk about leadership and Optimus offers the Matrix to Sentinel. It's brief and could technically be considered the mission, but it's there.
13:13 thank you. I thought I was crazy for being the only person who thought the cgi wasn’t great for this movie.
Totally agree that Nolan North should have been Optimus Primal too.
It wasn't bad but not as good as it was I'm the bay films
Beast Wars might be literally the first memory of my life. My dad, in the old apartment where I grew up, doing an air guitar of the intro and screaming "BEAST WAAAAAAARS". I can't figure out now if he was doing it to entertain his son or because he actually liked the show. It is one of the most precious memories of my life.
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I never watched this movie, thinking it was a meme. "Haha, Transformers movies are stupid. What if beast wars? haha"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😢😮😊
I sincerely thought Noah wouldve gotten a Sector seven card. But ...ing Hell the GI JOE card nearly killed me 😂
I remember being told about the GI Joe twist long before I watched the film and STILL thought it was a Sector Seven card. I think it was because I was waiting for the Megatron reveal that never came and forgot about it.
If the poor box office performance of this movie ends up causing the sequels not to happen, here's an easy fix. Noah joins GI JOE, and is assigned to their secret special division for dealing with Transformers called Sector 7, as well as being assigned the codename Simmons.
@@MrEnzio777 Maybe every chief agent gets assigned the codename Simmons, then you have a line of Simmons' dealing with transformer related stuff going back to ye olden days, would also open the doors for the sweet sweet prequel money that Paramount would be frothing at the mouth to get.
@@MrEnzio777 Simmons is already confirmed to be in this new universe though. He appeared in Bumblebee as one of the supporting soldiers.
Aparently this was an almost last minute rewrite. It was supossed to be an S7 card (and behind the secret doors we were supossed to see some cons stuff being studied) but they decided that it will be a perfect movie to start ,,hasbroverse". Kinda sad it performed badly
When ROTB first released, I saw it opening night, and thought it was pretty good. Noticed a lot of the missing scenes that were cut last minute, but didn’t think too much of them. The Fandom immediately devolved into fights over whether this was the best film, or one of the worst. Honestly, after reflecting since it released, it’s a firmly ok film. There’s plenty of things that could be improved, but comparing it to the films post DOTM, it’s a fairly solid movie. It’s a solid “B+”
Now we need a gi joe movie
I have to agree. It was a really good and enjoyable summer flick
Agreed, Rise of the Beast might be better if the story is more interesting
Agreed
I agree it’s a B+ movie
I honestly loved this movie, it was fun. I’m still upset over Airazor, we didn’t need her to leave again. But I understand story structure and the “death of the sage” is a great thing to send the main character off to do it himself
then bumblebee came back to life and his """"death"""" meant nothing
@@AhDollar bee's death was never going to mean anything, he failed what he was trying to do, and suffered the consequences for it.
@@aetheriox463even when people fail their lives and deaths mean something to the people who care about them. It’s called basic empathy and compassion.
@@meswoopnoseenothing its a fictional robot mate
@@aetheriox463 I know!
My favorite part of the film is how you made us play the "I'm an inventor!" line in our thoughts like Pavlov.
I’m still pissed Rhinox didn’t talk ONCE but is arguably one of the most intriguing and complex Maximals
Y'know the "We'll clear the way" line? That might've been Primal, but I gave it to Rhinox so he can have AT LEAST one line, besides roars & yells, etc!
I hope in the sequel we get more Cheetor and Rhinox
@@nicholasdeporto5257 YES! Cheetor had lines, but not enough! & he needed more development & screentime ofc with Rhinox!
this is why the movie was a fail. they promised us beast wars and they hardly do anything in this movie.
@@fennekin1750I tell myself that too
Like him or not. Their is no denying that Michael Bay reinvented Transformers. He even reinvented bumblebee with his microphone mouth and radio voice. That’s how iconic THAT bumblebee is
Yeah he sure did in fact make a movie that people saw.
He’s also responsible for the creation of the All-Spark.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios He did in fact have a MacGuffin in his movie.
*there
@ShockwaveFPSStudios He did not invent shit. The All Spark existed long before Bay got his dirty hands on TFm Bay is a bloody overrated action junkie who can't tell a good story if his career depended on it!
i literally thought that the post credit scene was gonna be about him being recruited for SECTOR 7😭😭😭
No, because you see: that would've made sense. And why make sense when you can make a ripoff MCU (that everyone tries unsuccessfully to replicate)?
The way you Pavlov-ed us into playing the, "'I'm an inventor!" line in our heads is my favourite moment in the video
Ikr, that was masterful and I didn’t even consider it was intentional until you pointed it out.
The fact Transformers used to make records in box offices, but now not so much is surreal to witness
Hasbro considers the film a success, even tho it didnt make a boom at the box office so we're gonna get more. And hey thats nice
@@eiriksundby "nice" is a really weird way to put it. It's certainly a thing.
My guy u are everywhere wtf
Comment bot.
The MCU took over after 2012
As someone whose only interaction with these movies has been purely through your videos on them, my soul was swiftly sucker punched into the next dimension the second I heard you utter the words "G.I. Joe".
That's exactly how it felt in the theaters.
as was I when I saw this in theatres. its significantly more abrupt in the actual movie. somehow.
I mean their is literally new toys this year with G.I. Joe and Transformers collab
Supposedly theyve been wanting to do another transformers and g.i.joe collab since the comics.
I was absolutely flabbergasted when that shit came up. Kept turning to my dad like "what the fuck are they doing" "why"
So was I in the theatre, I 100% thought it was sector 7 so when they said g I joe it hit me like a truck
Found it funny that Mirage the character known for not liking humans isnt given the arc about not liking humans in this
I saw it. It was actually pretty fun. Bumblebee is still my favorite of the bunch. The GI Joe reveal was the funniest thing I’ve ever scene after I got over my disappointment it wasn’t sector 7.
The biggest issue with this film? It dropped Unicron too early.
Unicron is a Thanos-level "ultimate" villain. This movie should have been three separate films: one featuring the Autobots vs. Decepticons (which could feature the Noah and Mirage friendship plot since it was genuinely fun), a second film featuring Maximals vs. Predacons (so the Maximals get enough time to shine as main characters rather than just being on the side) and then finally save Unicron and his heralds for the grand finale of a trilogy.
This movie tried to fit in all three concepts at once and wasn't able to realize any of them to their full potential.
I took it as being similar to the first Avengers movie. You get to see and hear the big bad but it's setting up a future confrontation.
If I remember correctly, Unicron is meant to be the overarching antagonist here.
They can easily bring Unicron back later. It's not like they destroyed him, just kept him from getting to Earth.
I mean, Unicron isn't dead. They could totally bring him back later on, but I agree that he had not nearly as much of an impact as he should have.
To be fair, a new hope had a death star. Empire didnt
The G.I Joe cut there is perhaps the most hamfisted thing I've ever seen in Cinema. Like Why?
because:
1. transformers and gi joe are both hasbro products
2. hasbro has wanted a gi joe movie reboot for a while
3. transformers and gi joe have crossed over before, in the comics
4. most transformers movies have the military in there somewhere (literally only the original animated movie and this one iirc dont have it)
The original GI Joe and Transformers cartoons take place in the same universe despite minimal crossover, and they’ve had a million crossover in comics since.
there was comics where they crossovered back in the 80’s
Folks in the replies have already mentioned Transformers and G.I. Joe's past crossovers, but they crossed over again just recently. After comic publisher IDW lost the rights to Transformers and G.I. Joe, Image Comics picked them both up and put em together in what they call the Energon Universe. The comics are actually really solid so far, and they combine the two franchises way more naturally than this movie seems to...
Anyway, the movie and the comic merger happening so close together is likely not a coincidence
Its amazing how I still remember the original Beast Wars and the plots despite it not being on the air for 20+ years but I forgot what happens in this movie that I saw a few months ago.
That's because this movie was trash (so I'm told). It doesn't even follow the lore of the actual Beast Wars. Just another, same old Bay "car go boom" movie.
@@croaton07 ROTB wasn't *horrible*, but it wasn't anything special. Lame action, lame characters, and repeats the same plot all the bay movies used. Also, the CGI is bland and colorless
I'm used to my transformers *being bad* . But when they *look* bad*? that's when I start having issues. All five of the Bayformers movies have absolutely *amazing* visuals. Even The Last Knight, which has worse CGI than the previous four! it at least has *interesting* visuals. I can give it that. While ROTB is just so gray and devoid of life. Optimus specifically just looks gross throughout the entire movie. Also that final battle... my god, what a horrible climax. It's grey robots fighting the same model repeated 100x in a grey field.
People had the same complaints for the Bay movies, but I never understood those *cowardly* complaints up until this movie. It looks awful
@@1FenFen1 its better to die as a glorious money printing dumpster fire(knights) than being so mediocre that everyone forgets you exist
@@1FenFen1 Nah it was pretty garbage and was a waste of 5 years tbh
Fun fact for those who don't know... Beast Wars was is a historically important show because it followed ReBoot in being a fully 3D rendered CGI show on a meager weekly show budget and insane schedule. It could do it because of the shift from super expensive software meant to run on super expensive SGI workstations (and mainframes just a few years earlier) could now be run on what was essentially desktop computers. Shouts to Mainframe and Alliance (the production companies) for breaking new ground with ReBoot in 1994 and following up with Beast Wars. As an early 3D animator on my Commodore Amiga's, these folks really blew me away. Hat's off.
Beast wars was a mistake and shouldve never happened
The my little pony and transformers crossovers do go hard.
On God.
I read the series months ago and I agree.
Good
Optimus could have just made friendship with the decipticons and then we would have 7 movies
@Sussybaka27616 That's what he tried to do a lot, actually, but as the name implies, the Decepticons no like that.
It was nice to see Prime not as a soldier but more like a dad just trying to protect what's left of his family
I saw him more as a passive aggresive bitch.
AKA every version of him that isn't Bay
Or a big brother, as the movie itself tells us
Netflix WFC Trilogy Optimus was kinda both, but sadly his voice acting was shit
@@SarcyBoi41 also the writing
I legit saw this movie when it first came out. I then saw your video about it on my recommendations and thought to myself "hmmm yeah, I never saw that one. Wonder what it's about"? I then realized that I did in fact see it when I started watching your video. That's how unforgettable this movie really was.
I think I'll go ahead and explain who the Terrorcons were in the olden days of G1, and keep it brief.
They were a Decepticon team of five that all turned into straight up monsters. They consisted of:
Sinnertwin, the angry, two headed fire breathing thing.
Blot, the sickly bridge troll.
Ripper Snapper, the stealthy walking shark.
Cut Throat, the psychotic bird creature.
And the leader, the glutenous Hungrrr.
They also combined to become the raging Decepticon, Abominus, who to quote Micheal Mercy "is so stupid it once took him an hour to cook minute rice."
"I did not want you to go to that drive-in movie theater anymore."
*sad Bumblebee noises*
I like how this implies Bumblebee sneaked out to a movie theater even after told not to
No. He said "I do not".
Always love me so farther and son moments with bee and prime😌
At this point, the only reason I know this many Transformers movies even exist is because of you.
Im beginning to think he’s just making them up at this point, like no way they had fucking wizards and shit in one of them
(for the record, im well aware that they’re real)
Same
I feel both of yalls points
TF ROTB is definitely a great movie in my opinion, but it is a film that could've benefitted as a Rise Of The Autobots story than as a Rise Of The Beasts story. Just looking at that early concept art with Trailbreaker, Sideswipe and the rest of the gang makes me imagine what we would've gotten, but overall I still absolutely loved the end result though. Hopefully the new Transformers One movie will be everything we want since its finally taking the story to Cybertron and focusing on the robots this time.
Just as long as it does not turn Prime into an anti hero and actually gives Megatron some depth and treats him with respect
15:08 Lmao, that Action Man PTSD reference killed me.
I saw it opening night & I enjoyed it but the funniest thing was during the end scene, I guess a couple people (including myself) thought the little card was going to say 'S7' and I heard a couple people clap, and then when the card revealed 'GIJOE' the silence was deafening lmao
I didn't know #wholesomepp liked transformers, that's certainly interesting
Who the hell was clapping for s7, that doesn’t even make sense.
@@MrBigB At least Sector 7 makes sende.
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 yeah, but why clap lmao. It’s not like it’s the first time s7 has been shown in this universe. And it’s just strange considering they’re just an organization it’s not even a fan favorite character or anything.
@@MrBigBFor real, they were just the human faction, hardly memorable or noteworthy... If this were to be true, and not made up for the comments, then those people are idiots who probably clap for anything in the theaters... Can't stand those people.
went to see this with the family, and my dad’s only comment about the movie was “Every Transformer’s movie is the same, they always gotta find the special object and take it to the special place and fight the bad guy”
To be fair, that’s every transformer’s media ever.
unfortunately, thats all that transformers really has been for a long time. its quite hard to make a unique story when all you have to go off of is "two factions at war" as their main story
@@Drawngalaxy Would I be wrong for thinking that the comics are different about this? They're generally more war stories and the closest we have to a real Macguffin hunt was Rodimus going on a quest with the Lost Light.
Distant thunder hit my ears right as you mentioned the storm that obscures Unicron and I assumed it was just part of the video until the rain hit. Good timing Cody
I agree with everything you said except they did explain why Bubblebee speaks in movie quotes with the drive-in theater idea, that’s a good way to explain it and a way to express his personality better
“Not a hellish abomination” is a great endorsement. I was big disappointed that Rattrap didn’t make the cut too. He was my favorite as a kid.
If sizes were right Optimus would stomp him and not notice
The director sayd they didn't included Rattrap because there was already too many characters to handle, but he promised Rattrap will be in the sequel, and Megatron too.
"WUNCE A PRED! ALLLLLWAYS A PRED!"
@@bernardoheusi6146 Nah, considering in this version the Maximals are way bigger than the Autobots I think Rattrap would be a little taller than Arcee.
Bay can be criticised for a lot of things, but he is an absolute master of getting value out of his special effects teams. On a technical level his films look better than most modern action films, while often costing less to make.
Also highly recommend every frame a paintings video 'what is bayhem?' for anyone curious about why other directors immitating Bay's style tend to look a bit 'off'.
Shame how dark of the moon looked better then this 12 years later
@Rushking20 why just dark of the the moon? The first transformers movie still holds up visually
Not only that, but the fight/actions scenes were the best things to watch in his movies.
@@ADHD_God5489 They can be hit or miss, a lot of fights in his Transformers movies are hard to make out or are literally characters spinning around.
Thank you for mentioning this. People who shit on the first 4 transformers movies fail to realize how innovative and insanely technical the action effects were. Sure the story is below average, nobody cares about sams girlfriend. I'm not sure about it being cheaper. Rise of thr beasts and bumblbee didn't use as much practical effects I think.
The funniest part about the Transformers verse is how The Last Knight basically said that Unicron is inside Earth, and then Rise of the Beasts suddenly said that Unicron is somewhere else in the galaxy.
5:46 Michael Kelly is one of the few actors able to whisper-talk without sounding forced 👍👍
Hub never misses with his videos; I dearly hope his uncontrollable descent into madness continues
Completely missed talking about the plot point of Noah doing everything in this movie for his sick brother.
With luck it’ll match his brothers descent into madness a few years ago
Yet another movie my dad worked on. Lets just say this one was a mess. It was filmed in Montreal and in Peru. My dad worked in the Montreal part of the movie and was responsible for the transport logistics. So everything from trucks, van location, lodges for actors and staff and all that. btw the movie was filmed in the summer of 2021 even though in came out in 2023. So for that whole summer my dad would come back from work with the wildest stories of that day. for example, the initial police chase with the porsche in the beginning of the movie kinda went wild during filming seeing has they crashed 14 of them. its not rare to crash several cars during filming (fast and the furious probably hold that record). Another cool thing is usually when production wrap up, especially the big ones staff gets a gift. for transformer my dad got a blanket made of llama fur from Peru with a transformer logo in the bottom corner. Idk if this worth anything but has far as i can tell this is pretty original and it actually has a cool link with the filming of the movie (best gift he got for a movie was to keep the director chairs for the movie Arrival(2016)). Although my dad has work on countless bad movies' like this one, i can understand how he likes doing what he does.
I made a community post for those who want to see the things we still have from that movie, here is a link to some photos i just took really quickly: czcams.com/channels/-ybHxuRR8INwz3rw9dlvPA.htmlcommunity?lb=UgkxmCx4h9g1SgGqEmSJ3J4QkAgbcQNa0fy8
I guess that would also explain its massive budget
Your dad works on hundred millions $ block busters, he’s like cool as hell lol. I wouldn’t consider transformers a bad movie to work on or something that looks bad on your career. Big accomplishment
I think ROTB was a great film in general. Your father should be very proud of working on this film especially one thats part of a huge blockbuster franchise
They ruined the good idea of going back to the 90’s with the story, cast, and choice of transformer characters on both sides.
7:57 was a missed opportunity to insert the, “I’m in inventor!” Clip
I honestly loved this film's take on Optimus. He's much angrier & rash here but makes sense for him. I hope its a more positive growth in this reboot as opposed to the regression in the Bayverse.
Yeah I'd rather have him start off this way and become more humble and kind over time than see him end up as a psychopath.
My only real issue is that it comes out of nowhere, the deleted scene with Transit would have cleared it up a lot better.
@@Spootprimeyeah it should've been there
prime in the Rise Of The Beast made more sense cause hes new to earth so why should he trust humans and care much what happens to them? and that's how character growth is made, they start from zero and move up
@@logan317bthat's actually an interesting take on Optimus imo, a soldier who's known nothing but war for so long it's changed him into a violent prick but over the time he spends on earth he changes from a warrior into the kind hearted and humble dad figure he was in the orginal show
So few people watched this I didn’t even know about the GI Joe post credit scene, absolutely incredible.
Yo I didn’t know either! I lost my shit when I saw it just now 😂
Me either! This is the first I’m hearing of it. I’m whelmed.
With the end credits being a thing for years now, you people should really stay till the last minute.
@@nathanielrobles3284 I didn’t see this movie. In theaters or after. I’m saying I didn’t even HEAR about a post credit GI JOE scene.
LMFAO SAME THAT HIT ME LIKE A TRUCK
The freaking Cinematic Universe tie-in made me wish I'd seen this movie in theaters instead of just learning about it now. Something that dumb and great would've been incredible to see on the big screen xD
The way Dinklage says "Bring me the key" is hilarious
You should really cover the Godzilla franchise. The good, the bad, and the sometimes awesome moments. It’s honestly a mind blowing series with how good it is and also how um… not so good it is. But nevertheless they are pretty fun to watch.
That's a great suggestion. Since there are so many movies though, maybe it'd be better to divide it into different eras: one video for the first film, another for the Showa series as a whole, other for Heisei etc
Going through at least the Legendary-verse ones would be so cool
I love to see him cover that weird Hannah Barbera cartoon. Remember Godzuki? I'm still half convinced it was a fever dream.
Isn’t that a tall order, I mean 70 years, a Halloween-esque timeline and then the American Washed films
i like the new movies mostly i just wish they would focus on the world and monsters more than just the random characters that are some set dressing. no one cares if these random people are doing random shit show me a lizard the size of a skyscraper beat the shit out of a monkey the size of a skyscraper
however seeing a giant robot double team godzilla and king kong forcing them to work together was easily the best thing to come out of media in decades.
I started laughing uncontrollable when you showed that GI Joe card. That came out of nowhere lmao.
I actually thought it was joke at first lmao
@@danjoreddnot really, GI Joe and Transformers started as a shared universe
Your videos remind me of meeting a stranger at an airport bar during a layover and having an awesome conversation. Love them
It's been 5 months please give us the best transformers video I cannot wait, it is hidden in the recesses of my mind from when I was like 5
I’m unbelievably hyped for the video on Transformers 1986. I’ve been wanting you to cover it for this whole series.
“ such heroic nonsense”
Still the best TF movie.
@@Comkill117 Yep. You don't get that many actual songs that someone would actually listen to in their free time being used during the actual action in an movie.
Same. Til all are One
TRANSFORMEEEERRRRRRSSS!!!!
MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
Maybe its my clouded childhood nostalgia, but another thing that seems to be missing from RotB is that larger-than-life aspect the Transformers had in the previous films. In the Bay films, the Transformers looked big, felt big, and left devastation in their wake as they fought in cities among the human populace. Michael Bay really liked to show how huge these guys are. Even in RotF, they didn't fight in a big city, but they still felt big as they fought in a Forest from Sam's perspectives. The climax of RotB kinda reminds me of the desert fight in RotF, but kinda worse, fighting on this flat plane without much scale.
I felt the same way. I thought the camera during ROTB's climax moved unnaturally and unrestricted kinda like a MCU movie. In most of the Bay movies the camera felt grounded.
@@no-replies The first movie came out 16 years ago...how OLD are you?
I'm 30, I was 14 when the movie came out
Yeah people criticise Bay's action style a lot but I think it made these movies way more awesome than they had any right to be, the visual effects were never what made these movies bad(until they got way shittier later)
The CGI even the first movie still holds up amazingly well, all the little parts of the bots moving around and clicking in to place as they transform is incredible. Size is something the cartoons even never really got that right because they still ultimately had to turn in to cars and stuff that the human characters had to get in to, so the scale always seemed a little weird.
Massive sentient robots SHOULD cause a lot of destruction, it was always weird to me how people say Michael Bay ruined that particular part.
They also fight on an alien megastructure setpiece against an army of things their size, which also makes them seem less impressive.
I agree. It didn't feel as powerful with the visuals or designs. Yeah, they were more cohesive than the Bay designs, but they ended up like a good 3/4 the size of the bay versions for the most part, and they didn't feel nearly as powerful like you said. It felt like some big people fighting and not giant robots. It was fun, yeah. But I honestly prefer most, if not all the bay films to this for entertainment and maybe even story. Hasn't really improved much story wise. Just "oh, we need this thing but to also keep it from the other side, then a big action scene after"
Except I like the way the Bay movies did the action much more
The fact that u got me hooked to your transformers videos with ur monotone voice and sarcastic takes even though I have never seen a single content related to the topic is phenomenal! Keep doing what u re doin bro!
*12:20** omg the CGI difference between cringey Scourge and that legend The Fallen says so much about today's CGI*
Nothing makes me happier than a Zoids tangent at the start of this video. Truly a forgotten piece of 90's and 2000's animation.
I fully agree, I would love to see him do a zoids video
They still make Zoids toys in japan, there was a new anime i think in 2018 called Zoids Wild
Unless you’re Asian and watch CZcams video of Zoids
The weird thing is that Zoids is kind of similar to Transformers in the way it was created, it began as a Japanese toyline, I forgot how it was called, then it was licensed by Hasbro and was given a new name, it got some comics, but then in '99 it got an anime that got pretty popular in both Japan and the rest of the world along with a new toyline
Cant wait for the street sharks revival movie
I can not describe my genuine shock of when the GI Joe part was shown. My jaw dropped.
GEE AYY JOOOOOEEEEE
@@Its.me.Sam.A REAL AMERICAN HEERRROOO!
I saw this movie, and am only now learning there was a show about this before. I was very confused about the robot animals and some other things, I figured it was just explained in some other movie I haven't seen and just suspended all 110% of my disbelief. And from my perspective of someone who, as far as I can remember, hasn't seen any other transformers movies but of course knows about transformers because pop culture, I agree with your assessment. It's a perfectly serviceable movie. There were parts I enjoyed, and no blaring issues that ruined the experience. Also I wasn't wearing my glasses when I saw this movie so had no idea what that card at the end said, when he said G I Joe I thought it was a joke. I thought it was the Avengers but legally distinct because it has transformers
I like how the bots in this one are scuffed up instead of oiled up like pro wrestlers. Using high gloss, mirrored finishes on all your CGI is a crutch to look flashy without having to put in the texturing work.
Didn't see this movie, but from what I saw online, one thing most people were upset about was Rattrap wasn't in the movie. Apparently in Transformers lore, Arcee and Rattrap are related and Transformer fans were looking forward to seeing them interact together.
correct. in one episode of Beast Wars, Rattrap refers to Arcee as his great aunt.
While it has its flaws I still really liked this one even if it was just the novelty of another live action transformers I think it’s neat
The fact weezer was not mentioned once in this video for a film taking place in 1994 New York is commendable
I realised through your channel that I made the conscious effort to watch transformers, and still somehow didn't even realise that I never watched Transformers 2, and didn't even realise half of the new ones even existed. I don't know how I managed to get to the opinion that the first three movies were great without realising I never actually watched the second movie. I made the choice to see it movies, but never actually went & forgot I bought tickets somehow.
Peter Dinklages performance in this movie immediately reminded me of his performance as the Ghost for the release of Destiny. You can really tell when he’s just taking a role for money. Dude actually falls asleep in the booth.
Should've been someone like Clancy Brown or Ben Mendelsohn voicing the character instead of Dinklage. I could've seen Dinklage voicing Dropkick in Bumblebee similarly to his voice work in Ice Age 4 and Croods 2 (except more brutish and threatening).
Yup, it has the exact same energy as his ghost performance, i guess you could try and blame it on the voice director. But almost all of the voice actors in this and destiny are great. Dinklage sticks out like a sore thumb in this. Im gonna say it's him that is not good at voice acting.
@@thepeps101 I thought he was fine in Croods 2 and people said he was one of the highlights of that fourth Ice Age flick.
@@DieHardAlien Fair enough, i haven't seen Croods 2, and it was a long time ago that i saw Ice age 4 but i don't remember his captain gutt performance that well. Still, like i said. He sticks out in properties with otherwise good voice acting.
he was honestly sooooo good in Ice Age 4!! idk what happened here in RotB 😭
This movie was proof that Bay Fatigue had set in with everyone, not just diehard Transformers fans. I love your reviews of the live action movies, and this was a delight. Thank you Mr. Hub!
The frick you mean? This movie was just mid. It had some cool things, but other than that most of it was bad or just forgettable.
@@TheOneWhoSouls1405 yes thank you! Bay ain't at fault for anything here. ROTB is just a boring dud of a movie.
It honestly felt like this seem dived back into the trends from the Bay movies with big action scenes and explosions where you can't tell what was happening on screen, and characters that exist only for the fights that contribute nothing to the rest of the movie with a way too large cast. I don't even understand why the other maximals aside from airrazor who dies without getting to transform and primal needed to exist, they literally do not have any dialogue.
@@M_k-zi3tn buddy bay IS at fault, tf5 was a clear cut example audiences were done with his vision of TF (with bumblebee being an exception for how down to earth it was) and the moment we get another big budget TF film that actually TRIES to respect the source material, audiences don't have much interest cause they look back at the 10 years of bay and assume rotb is the same thing despite having a different director.
Bay's movies put a permanent stain on the franchise, ask most casual viewers about TF and they'll only think of the bayverse, nothing beyond that cause that's all they know and been exposed to.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts Nah dude most people like the first 3 TF movies to a reasonable extent.
ROTB has itself to blame. It's just not a fun experience and is hella forgettable. Blaming Bay is blatant coping and denial of the fact that this movie wasn't entertaining enough to get asses in seats.
I forgot all about Beast Wars!!!!! That was my jam as a kid, I remember the toys and everything. Thanks for the nostalgia hit and another awesome Transformers analysis 😄
What’s funny is that I actually remember going to see this film in cinemas with my friend since I hadn’t seen him in a while:The only other people in the theatre aside from us were an old couple.
Actually I saw this film, at its Brooklyn premiere no less. Whole cast was in attendance and the theater legitimately went nuts at THAT final scene. I’d say it’s the most these Transformers movies have felt like the cartoons, for better or for worse.
This movie was so amazingly loved in Peru. It remained the most watched film in cinemas for more than a month I think. People like my mother along with my aunts, who couldn't give two shits about transformers went to see this in theaters.
I know its hardly little more than an ok movie with less than interesting human characters, but seeing Cuzco and those wonderful shots near Macchu Picchu and Sacsayhuaman certainly made it special for us, and having some minor indigenous characters was also heart-warming. Too bad the part were the final battle occurs is just made up with generic CGI.
I liked the fact that for the marketing in Latin America Optimus Prime's dub actor, Blas García, was featured in some of Paramount's social media posts. As for the voice cast itself, only Airazor had her original dub actress from Beast Wars returning, but to be fair, most of the original BW cast has either retired or passed away
That's sweet.
I thought that Wheeljack's redesign was a bit much, but it's good to hear from a local that the scenery was taken full advantage of. I honestly can't remember the last movie that used Peru, either the actual cities or the ancient ones, as a setting.
It's a reminder that "representation matters". Another example: "Black Panther" showed Afro-Futurism. Another one: setting "District 9" in Johannesburg (south Africa). Yet another one: "Ms. Marvel" and her Pakistani family. Want one more? "Blue Beetle" and his Latino family.
All these movies were seen, discussed, and supported by the "represented demographic". Even if a few of them didn't make billions, they made more than they would without their location and/casting decisions.
As much as we 💩 on "woke casting" and what-not, human audiences like to see themselves represented *positively* on the big screen.
@@user-gz7lm9js9f Which makes it kinda sad when its revealed that the Maximals and the village they were guarding had it the whole time, making their whole visit to the small Peruvian town kinda pointless.
There was so much that happened, it added up to not much happening, and rather quickly
wheeljack became a nerd now
I mean, he is, but at least he didn't LOOK like a nerd.
After all this time, we’ve finally reached the end of this transformers era in pointlesshub’s channel
Edit: Just finished the video, and looks like it’s 90’s time baby
80s and 90s cartoons babyyyyy
@@breakinglegsandbreakinghea3167 but he only reviews bad transformers media
@@The_Local_Goose I think he just like talking about the funny toy robots and Shia Laboof™
For now
It almost feels like there should be an enddgame portal scene for this
A lot of things about this movie were rather unimpressive . Like how Noah had to mention how he came from Brooklyn every time, Weeljack, the ham fisted G.I Joe tie in, the dull personalities of the Maximals, NO RATTRAP OR DINOBOT ( egregious ), and for some reason the Terrorcons were used instead of Predacons... like what?
I remember seeing the trailer for this movie and wanted to see it, then poof, suddenly the movie has come and gone and I didn’t even know. Watched it yesterday on HBO so now I can finally watch this video.
So many of your cut-away clips were the exact reactions I had to plenty of moments in this movie. In that opening sequence when they showed the key I said to myself “well here’s our McGuffin”. In Noah’s first scene when he’s repairing the cable-box the “I’m an inventor” line played in my head. Mirage’s “they fly now” made me think of that scene from Star Wars RoS. “Whelp, guess Bee is dead again for now”, which didn’t have much impact because they had shown him fighting in the final battle in the trailer. Overall I enjoyed the movie, it wasn’t the best or groundbreaking but it was far from the worst and was very adequate. Though for a movie called “rise of the beasts”, the maximals didn’t get much focus. Even with only four being present, only two were characters. I know nothing about Beast Wars and have no knowledge about them outside of this movie and what you added, so I feel they should have had a larger role in this movie. Noah wearing the Mirage suit of armor in the final battle looked a bit like Samus and just felt odd. Like everyone else here, I was fully expecting the reveal to be sector 7, so G.I. Joe really came out of nowhere and gave my a good laugh.
I still hope they do another movie after this one.
The film was released on my birthday, I watched it with my parents and 2 other cousins, it was a really cool experience.
And being able to hear "Arrivel to Earth" in theaters after so long was something priceless
I think the one thing that really bothered me was the characterisation of Optimus. I know he's younger here, but I always thought of the first Transformers movie was the best version of Optimus, he's hopeful and kind to species different from him but he also has an edge to him that does what's necessary because of his experience in the war of Cybertron.
Plus, isn't the reason why he's chosen to be Prime is his kindness to everyone?
But also, G.I. Joe? I think they're trying to do that Kong and Godzilla crossover thing (or a Hasbro Cinematic Universe jfc) but at least they're both huge monsters, this was just so jarring.
I suspect they're gonna do something with the Headmaster gimmick... humans reverse-engineer cybertronian tech, make their own transformers... but with human pilots instead of the Cybertronian "spark" of Life.
The idea has potential
@@ChineduOparapacific rim but smol
@@xekon14 I know, right??? I didn't even think about Pacific Rim Job! 😅
The transformers literally fought a dude named Old Snake in the g1 show. That’s not even to talk about how the comics were playing with each other for years
I never thought I'd be excited for more Transformers content until I discovered this channel. 😆
The thing I like about Scourge is how he is an improvement of his G1 counterpart the fact hes a hunter and his 2 minions the Freezers
I think it was Alright. They brought back war crime Prime which is really funny, but this movie gave him an arc that explains how he became so bloodthirsty and eventually learnt to trust again.
He had to draw from his inner bayverse to beat scourge
I loved this film and saw it in an empty theater by myself 😂
It gave me Saturday morning cartoon vibes especially with them introducing GI Joe at the end. Any kid would want more of this vs some of the previous films
My dad uncle and i all saw it in a empty theater lol.
Man my theater was full, heck some family showed up 20 minutes late and were loud af and in their phones.
@@astrowolvezmy theater was packed too
Someone took their crying child to our theater.
Me and my friend saw it in theaters and we were the only ones there. It was awesome. We were hooping and hollering and yelling the whole thing.
omg thank you for mentioning zoids i loved zoids so much they are an underappreciated art
Ngl you my second fav CZcamsr your vids are always so fun to watch
I went to see ROTB opening night, and while I do wish more people would’ve given it a chance, it’s understandable why that didn’t happen. It had it’s flaws of course, but while not being perfect I did enjoy it quite a lot and thought it was a step in the right direction after the last two Bay films.
The only reason I rate this movie it's alright/10 because there's not even a slight hint of connection to the previous Bumblebee movie even though it's also being advertised as (somehow) a sequel to that movie
That's the problem, the only value people seem to see in this movies is "Well, it's not as bad as the Bay Films". Comparing shit to bigger shit, they're still both shit. I'm not gonna praise a movie for doing the bare minimum
@@cahe6161You're toxic
@cahe6161 well that's a bad mindset to have
In its defense, apparently the inclusion of G.I. Joe was not planned at first but Paramount then requested G.I. Joe to be included.
Also G.I. Joe has always existed with The Transformers although they were only relegated to the comics thus far. 80's Marvel US/UK, Devil's Due, Dreamwave, 2005 IDW and now with *SPOILER* Skybound's energon universe
Basically the Transformers, G.I.Joe, Jem and The Holograms, and Inhumanoids cartoons all exist in the same universe.
@@OneNationUnderPug power rangers and fucking my little pony too. im being serious
@@kairaelstephen5788hasbro owns power rangers?
@@NepetasShippingWall1642 yep
I (G1/BW fan)took my brother (Bay fan) to see Rise of the Beasts. The second the opening scene ending and the title credit came up the whole theatre blacked out. I said "well, guess that was the rise of the beasts" and we left....we never remembered to go back
I love how they rebooted the series to give us something closer to the vibes of g1 and the original transformers just to revert to Michael bays over the top and violent adaptation of the series for the sequel. The wildest backtrack
At least there isn't that much sexual content
Zoids was legendary. We deserved more episodes of that series.
Zoids Wild was a mega success over in Japan, it got a ton of shit sold over there. The problem is that whatever the hell Zoids Wild Zero did was so bad it immediately tanked the entire brand again so now the franchise has died for the third time.
Liger zero is peak 😤😤
Zoids battle legends GameCube was legendary
I miss Zoids. I've watch every Zoids episodes and seasons back then. It was like Gundam in four legs for me.
@@TheShinyFeraligatr Gonna need that remake 🧐
Honestly I feel like the best thing for transformers at this point is to focus on the decepticons back when they were just starting out. It could cover megatron's origins as a miner and gladiator before turning into the evil war monger we know today, would be really interesting to see and could be watched by itself and still being able to connect to the other movies without retconning anything since it'd be a true prequel on cybertron
I would be down for that
So basically get rid of bayverse continuity and embrace the aligned continuity
Sounds great, sadly no humans so they won’t do it.
Lol, the Tranformers audience does not care about lore let alone Megatron lore.
Well they ARE making a prequel set on cybertron! It’s called transformers one
Had to get a plush, I love your channel dude!
me and 2 friends went to go see this movie. we did our usual 'wait a week to let crowds thin out' strat. by then our local lil cinema was only showing it in the smallest theatre, which also just so happened to be the fancy schmancy one with reclining chairs. we were the only ones there. so we could just do whatever we wanted. we all actively cheered like idiots during the final fight.
and then we all screamed "WHAT" at the Gi Joe reveal.
it was awesome.
i wish more of my movie going experiences were just like that
7:56 a real missed opprotunity to not say he was an inventor
I actually preferred Noah over Sam. Sam's emotional hang ups honestly had very little relevance to the Transformers directly. But Noah's desire to look out for his brother is very comparable to Optimus's plight.
But I think we could have had Air razor provide the exposition more than Elena(so more screentime for Air Razor). Also Rhinox and Cheetor(but definitely Rhinox) were done dirty in this movie.
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Again all in all Noah is arguably a better written character than Sam at least for TF1 and potentially TF2. We probably can't get Noah or other characters like Noah for the next few movies but he's a good template. I still would like to see Noah having a cameo in the next movies at least if possible.
"Air Razor"
Could've just used Primal, Airazor, and Cheetor as the primary Maximals and that's it. Save Rhinox for another film if a sequel got made.
Could've just used Prime, Arcee, and Mirage (with Bee at the start and climax of the flick once Mirage is out of the movie and in his suit mode) as the primary Autobots and that's it. Save Wheeljack for another film with a variation of his G1 design shown in Bumblebee.
Could've just used Scourge (a name used for characters in both Generation One and Beast Wars), Nightbird (primarily a Generation One character), and Quickstrike (primarily a Beast Wars character) as the primary Terrorcons and that's it. A good combination of villainous characters from different versions of the franchise whom are visually distinct from one another that people wouldn't mind being Terrorcons as Unicron's enforcers in this incarnation.
@@DieHardAlien We have to be careful about how many characters we exclude from a movie since there's no guarantee there will actually be a next movie that continues the storyline. While I can agree "less characters can mean more" for a movie, if the movie does terribly, the next movie will probably just axe the current characters(the execs can assume the current characters weren't liked so no point in having them take up screentime in the next movie) and we won't see the characters "we saved for the sequel". Sometimes certain characters only really work well with other characters being there as they did in the original show. If Rhinox had some lines, it would have been great to have him talk to Cheetor. A damn shame.
Sam is there just to pretty much scream his lungs out
@@shiftbloxx1076 Which boggles my mind why TF1 was praised so much when Sam/Shia... just kept screaming.
I tolerated it in TF3 because genuine shit was going down and Sam was getting into the action himself. But TF1? It's so distracting.
6:02 I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO SEE A PORKCHOP SANDWICHES CLIP! that brought back so many memories oml
You and I both got Rise of the Beasts videos out this month lol. Good vid man.
Also about the special effects don't forget too that Michael Bay had a great amount of practical effects to enhance the cgi making it feel more real.
"You rarely get a character in fiction that's both brawn and brains."
*Onua vibes intensify*
I absolutely loved this movie, and really hope it gets a sequel, cuz it and Bumblebee really treat both the humans and Autobots more as relatable characters than what we saw in the previous movies.
Thank you for mentioning ZOIDS at the start. I miss turning onto toonami as a kid and watching the newest dub release.