How Mercedes Ended Up With The Fastest Car Ever
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- In the shortened 2020 Formula 1 season, Mercedes came through with what may go down as the greatest F1 car ever built, possibly the greatest race car of all time. The Mercedes W11.
It would grant Lewis Hamilton his 7th world title and dominate the 2020 season. But just how Mercedes ended up with the fastest F1 car ever made is an interesting story, full of controversy, pure engineering genius and a little bit of luck.
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Probably the most perfect racing car ever built. People won't appreciate it now, it's too recent...but in 20 years it will be talked about breathlessly like the 919, CLK GTR, Lotus 79, etc.
Naaah, I don't think so. Those you write there were pure, innovative machines. W11 was just development and using parts/things which were banned in the past. But somehow FIA allowed Mercedes to use it aka gave W1 homologation, so in basic allowed it. So who else wouldn't use eat?
Also keep in mind thing, which Alpone or Williams says and they're approved by Mercedes. Cost gap. No one else, even Ferrari or RB didn't had same amount of money to spent as Mercedes,. Combined it with all rest and here it is
@@klausjager1826 where do you even get information that mercedes was totally outspending everyone? ferrari was dumping just as if not more money in f1 only to come out with relatively bad cars.
Eh, the Porsche 962 or pretty much any historic Porsche Le Mans car or the lotus 72 will always eclipse it because it only won everything in one year and 3-5
@@klausjager1826 I’d say the W11 is going to be remembered just like the F2004- not for being innovative, but for being fast as fuck, and basically symbolising the peak and end of Hamilton/Mercedes dominance like how the F2004 was the peak and end of Schumacher/Ferrari dominance.
The W11 with that black & purple helmet is one of the most iconic combinations In F1 history, great vid
Agreed, just like Senna in that Dayglow McLaren. Set in stone.
You forgot 1 of the most iconic things, valteri its james
@sjeiko5149 true but merc were fair to bottas and would only do that when he was clearly not going to win the championship
It's the same situation of the MP4/4 with the yellow, green and blue helmet, specially here in Brazil. It's probably THE most recognizable and iconic car in this country (even though we have an equivalent to Australia's Supercar series. It's that influential)
The greatest F1 car ever. It is 4s faster than the pole time around Hungary. Spa was just on another level
4 seconds? Difference between pole and 2nd is .1, unless im understanding it differently
I still remember vividly when Martin Brundle said something along the lines of “it shouldn't be that smooth!” at the onboard shot of the W11 during qualifying at Hungary.
@@carlosrenteria2495 I think he meant the 23 pole time, it wasn't quite 4 seconds though 3.3 was the actual difference
@@skrub45 ahh yea makes more sense.... duh lmao
@@carlosrenteria2495 it's probably the best comparison as it was Lewis in '20 and '23
W11 on the hands of Lewis Hamilton was a killer combo
Mercedes W11, Ferrari F2004, McLaren MP4/4... F1's Holy Trinity.
and the Williams FW15 another Adrian Newey car.
It will be interesting to see how the W15 turns out with James Allison back in charge.
Bro can’t wait for that 8th Championship
Well bud we'll know in a couple hours
@@edy1434 Aaand it's the same usual shit.
@@abbasawan6753 yep seems like allison cant make miracles in only 1 year they never shouldve let him go in 2020
Having watched Merc dominate starting from 2014 I was understandably bored by this car at the time but looking back I'd love to be back in 2020 watching the peak of this car regardless of all of the bad things going on in the world. The W11 reminds me of a safer, more certain time, irrespective of COVID. Everything turned out okay that year in the end.
That W11 pole lap at Mugello will tell you the story
2021 really did ruin f1 forever the fan base have become so toxic since
and 2021 added also some STUPID fans you sometimes read comments and opinions about F1 these days that makes you sick
all because of max
All because of Ham-stans getting their lolipop snatched away from them
all because biden
@@_pezzu_lol. All cuz of Biden.
The w11 wasn’t just on another level. Lewis was on another level. A driver as good as Bottas, who is as good if not better than Perez, could barely wrangle the car to beat verstappen that year. Meanwhile Lewis was so far ahead
This is often overlooked i feel like, despite it being an absolute rocketship. Bottas only finished 9 points ahead of Verstappen. Just like the RB19 this year you need an amazing driver to push that car to its full potential.
@@CheekyCheeky max even had 3 more DNF than Bottas that year. Perez this year is already much further ahead than p3 and I wouldn’t say he’s a better driver than bottas
Bottas is 10 times the driver compared to Perez. Bottas never missed a Q3 when he drove for Merc & he always got equal opportunity.
@@Jay-nk6dm Becuase RB16B was a rocket ship & could keep up with W11.
@@ktcool4660you really have no clue what you're talking about. The W11 is from 2020 and try to guess from which year the RB16B is (hint, it's not 2020).
Apparently Allison has take inspiration from this car for W15 so interesting video to note. 7 time world champion
Red Bull fan admiring the greatest rival of his team. Every sports fan should be like this.
A goated car can’t be driven without a goated driver 💜🖤🐐
shame that lewis sint as consistent
Yeah just imagine what would have happened if the W11 had a goated driver 🤯
@@quigglyz no need, it had the undisputable GOAT ;)
I love your videos my man, not a whole lot of Americans covering f1 like this, and tbh the ones that are I don’t like the way they narrate so much. You do a great job! Appreciate the content!
the w11 was on another level
Thank you for making these videos. You’re great 👍
People will hate on it, but Mercedes will go by the far the greatest formula 1 team in history during the hybrid era and creating the fastest machine that has ever produced
Would love to see this thing on the Nurburgring to challenge the 919 EVO's all time record, bit something tells me the delicacy of that rear suspension/diffuser setup would be a potential disaster on the bumpy surface and mountain high curbs of the Green Hell.
919 evo was literally made for the Nordschleife so it wouldn’t beat it
@@Horvathkristof00 I wouldn't say it was made for the Nordschleife; it was a tribute to the championships winning base car - what that car could be capable of without regulations. If anything it was supposed to be an F1 killer, or at least challenger. It was certainly optimized for its Nordschleife run though. That Nordschleife lap is up there with the greatest ever achievements in motorsport.
unfortunately i dont think it would be a fair challenge the evo is far superior when it comes to the specs for the nord. like u said the w11 is too fragile and the battery on the merc would not be anywhere near enough to get a smilar speed down the long ass straight at the nord
is the 919 evo a legal race car ?
@@yugarten8523 It’s legal meaning you won’t get arrested for using one
Great video! Very concise and insightful. Subscribed 👍
bro you deserve more subscribers considering the quality of your videos!
awesome video
and there is a point as i can remember the team stopped developing the car since spa if they improved more and more it would be more mind blowing
Great video. I must say the w11 is on par with the fw14b in my memory of greatest engineering of its time.
whatching from brazil, amazing video mate
What's even more impressive about the Monza lap record is that they had introduced the new ICE rules for this race
Great explanation
Theres a channel on CZcams that simulates different race cars over a lap to see the time difference. They put out a video a little bit ago where he had the last 4 Mercs running a simulation on the same track (Ill link the video in my comment) and the W11 was 4 seconds faster than this years W14.... and gapped the second fastest Merc, which was the W12 by just over 2 seconds over 1 lap..... Truely a legendary race car, course they probably threw an insane amount of money at it, but thats never enough. They had insanely smart engineers put that car together, had a lot of luck, a hell of a driver in Lewis, an amazing team behind the scenes and it all culminated in I think (not 100% sure) but the fastest F1 car of all time?
czcams.com/video/69-F9YGHf5w/video.html
Edit: Forgot to link the video..... Also wanted to say....what a awesome video. You know your stuff, you explained it perfectly, dumbed it down when needed, and added some great visuals. Probably one of the best F1 related videos Ive seen. Youve got a subscriber, even if your a RB fan (Im a Mercedes fan :p)
Want to see W11 vs RB19
@@Luisml8 Here is a link of the simulation: czcams.com/video/VaPonQtY0aU/video.htmlsi=s-eE5gwSEbwI1FIL
Pre budget cap Ferrari used to throw endless money at their cars and were only able to achieve a major scandal and breaking Vettel. If that's not proof that you need more than money then I don't know what is!
There’s a simulation here on CZcams of the W11 vs the RB19..
Very nice content, keep it up 👏
That lap in Spa was on another level
yoo, that's my render in the thumbnail. Was really trippy to scroll youtube and find my image being used. Glad you liked it enough to use it as the thumbnail!
I absolutely love your videos! Thank you for these. Such well researched and well framed explainers!
To me F1 is so beautiful because of the melding of the human side and the technological side. That’s why combinations like this are so special. Like I’m pretty neutral but Hamilton in the W11 will always be special and I hope people appreciate that more later on. It’s hard to love something in the moment, especially when it’s so dominant, but to deny the absolute greatness of this car/driver combo would be stupidity.
Fantastic video
Basically in 2020 Mercedes improve their Engine, Straight-line speed, downforce and chassis 😅
The car was designed to Lewis Hamilton's preference over the years. That's why he was the GOAT. W12 was truly faster or par on race pace than RB16B in the last 4 races.
Feel like that’s one of Red Bulls flaws they will prioritize max without question whether or not he is in a title race
Mercedes don't do that. That's what Redbull does they did that with Vettel and Max. Max is a renowned SIM driver. He said himself he drives the SIM not the reserve drivers. Therefore he gives continuous feedback to engineers that's one of the reasons the Redbull continues to be designed to suit his driving strengths/style.
@@MojoMachin3 I think I should have worded that it more clearly. LH does not have a specific driving style. He can adopt to any car. He gave inputs over the years to make the car go faster, because he know what it takes to make a fast car drivable. There won't be a W11 without LH.
Exactly and even Mike Elliot.. said the W11 was the car that it was because of a great deal of Lewis’s input on the W11. Max even said that was a beast in the DRS zone because when you got in the DRS zone that car would just blaze you on the straights and if it was a long straight then you could forget it..
lewis always builds a well balanced car with the right amount of oversteer, which is why every car he's had input on was drivable by everyone
Great video
Best video I have ever seen in a while
nice contradiction
@@josef7447 contradiction of what.
Informative! This is what we want. Technological insight.
Here’s thing..Lewis’s lap was only 6 10th/sec.faster than Bottas to get the Pole and title of the fastest lap in f1 history and what was really crazy about this lap was that he was slow in the 1st and 3rd sector of this lap
My god that car was a dream to watch ❤
This car was the peak of developing with that regulamency and the top on F1 performance cause the team were free tò do anything with the Cars and the aero..Just thinkin this car can do flat MOST of Mugello Is Crazy.
W11 in the hands of Lewis Hamilton. My God it was an absolute monster. FLATOUT on Pouhon and Mugello. Peaking 5-6G forces. Yes the car is an absolute masterpiece of an engineering but without a proper pilot it will be nothing. Imagine the constant Gforces Lewis's neck had to endure every race while fast cornerning.
I'm really trying to get into f1 as much as possible to the point where I wanna be a driver, though I know it's definitely not a simple process and requires some type of luck but I finally found a passion since basketball and i'm late but mannnnn. If any advice what's the best videos, anything I can watch to learn and grow. I plan on getting a race set up so I properly play sim games with a race wheel and not a controller :( but other than i'm all ears right now. Any really good channels that can help a beginner like me down to every detail
Love the w11, I want to see a video on the w12 now
Dude you've gotta make a video about RB19 now! 🏎
That car was an absolute monster
Pls make a vid about the sf 23
Som the W11 Holds the lap record at all tracks still. Ferrari fell off the cliff when the FIA slapped them down behind closed doors with the engine power.
Loving your videos Jonny, can you make a video on just how lucky RedBull were able to get Max? When Mercedes offered him backup when they were at their peak, like how insane is the story of Max getting to where he is now both on track and behind the scenes
The best thing happened to MV is not joining Mercedes. You know that MV lost to Ocon if F3? Merc wanted MV to win the GP2 & then offered a seat at Williams. If Max ever joined Merc & became LH's team mate in 2017, Max would have been mentally scarred beyond repair. Helmut Marko said that 2021 season was mentally tough for MV & he can't handle another 2021 season. Look at what LH is doing to Russel since Canada 2022.
@@ktcool4660 You're all over the comment section with your deluded Max hate comments.
Championship fights are mentally tough for everyone regardless, look at 2016 and 2008, so just because Max says 2021 was challenging doesn't mean it wasn't for Lewis.
Max lost to Ocon, STFU Max was driving a Van Amersfoort who had never won an F3 title yet still fought neck and neck with Ocon who was driving a superior Prema (the best F3 team).
Lewis would've 100% beaten Max over a season in 2017-2018 no denying that, Lewis was in his prime.
But Max would've definitely challenged him more than Bottas did or Russell is now.
Lewis wouldn't have ended his career and he hasn't, Max is thriving just as Lewis once did with Red Bull.
@@lotus865 Most important LH driving an inferior car beat MV in 2021 for the WDC until at the last minute Masi intervened & break the rules to make his bastard the champion.
" more than Bottas did or Russell is now." lol no. GR63 now is far superior driver than MV in 2017 & 2018.
LH far better driver than MV at 38 years of age. In same machinery MV will produce same results as GR63 against LH in 2023.
LH is the most talented driver ever to touch drive an F1 car.
Don't ever compare MV one man show to LH time at Mercedes. LH always had competition except for 2020.
@@ktcool4660 Least crack addled Hamilton fan.
Russell is better than 2017-2018 Max 😂😂. DTS delusional Hammy fan.
Max wiped the floor with Hamilton and would've won easily without Hamilton and Bottas' terrorism, Masi's safety car was well deserved karma and Max was the rightful champion.
@@ktcool466038 year old Lewis would make 25 year old prime Max in the "oversteery" W14 look like Russell, are you fucking stupid 😂😂.
Max absolutely cooks in cars like the oversteery W14 which isn't as well suited to Lewis.
vettles red bull back in 2011 was the original op car that nobody seems to remeber
i know the cars are different nowadays and a lot slower, and they probably already tried it, but like, would it be possible for them to adapt the w11 aero to the 2022 rules? i mean that's probably what they tried with the w13 and we know the tractor it was, but still i cant believe that the team that made the fastest ground vehicle ever was able to make the w13 and 14
james allison did not design for mercedes in 22 and 23 as in the w13 and w14 but now hes back as technical director and working on the w15
@@lyric5922 yes but I’m guessing they still have the blueprints and things like that so idk
They don’t have an unlimited budget anymore. Lot harder and areo concept is entirely different now just not possible…
Agreed ..not to mention the cars now are bigger and heavier than the W11..@@jacobbrassard2776
its not possible anymore. The downforce of 2023 cars is generated mainly by the floor and diffusor. In 2020 it was generated by aero parts like wings etc. (the floor had almost no impact on downforce)
The man behind W11 is Aldo costa
If i'm correct, they didn't even brought aerodynamic updates on the car during the season, but red bull and co did
Imagine how fast the W12 would of been without the 2021 floor regs being changed mid season....
Lewis would have walked it that season i imagine
W12 is literally W11 adjusted to 2021 regs
James Allison is still technical director.
He was given a different role in 2021 that would see him manage projects outside of F1. Mike Elliot would be the one replacing him. Allison only just returned this year, some time before Imola was supposed to happen.
@@LoganSLRLockwood Source? Because I quickly looked it up on wiki and it seems he never left the role.
he moved to boat racing as a part of a deal mercedes had with ineos
Id love a video on another car he designed. The 2011 Lotus that kimi and grosjean drove. That thing sounded sooo good with the side exit exhausts
@@Snufflegrunthe has only recently returned to his post, it's been on every F1 race preshow since it was announced, toto wolff said about it to one of the show presenters on the F1 channel, in fact if you search the vids on CZcams you should be able to find the information yourself
So glad things changed in 2021!!!!!
2021 ruined Formula 1 forever, couldn't have said it better!!!
Loved every bit of the analysis....nice
Nice job nephew
I'd say, give the Ferrari F1 2004 todays tires and well see what it can do against the rest of todays cars. The Red Godess was sheer speed on straight and corners. The W11 might be better, but again, im just saying to give it todays tires and a driver that can handle it
You do realize that modern Pirelli tires are 'worse' than those from 2004?
And then came 2023 and we saw the all conquering RB19. Maybe not technically and historically as fast as the W11, but relative to other cars that year, it was untouchable.
2:42 that car looks so crazy in all black🔥
Per: Maybe you should get DAS back
Ham: DAS?
Per: DAS Nutz
Imagine if Lewis had a tow in Monza, for the past several years we've had crazy qualifying sessions at Monza as everyone wants a tow, Mercedes were so fast they just went out first as they were so much faster they didn't need the tow
He’s talking about Mercedes and he’s got a red bull hat.
Giving Props were Props is due
so? just because someone is a fan of something else they can't appreciate greatness?
Renault getting the cold blowing right is one of the reasons why Red Bull was so dominant in the years preceding the Merc era.
So i've got to disagree that the engine and the chassis manufacturer has to under be the same team to be successful
That clever iterpretations fo the rules is happening right now with redbull rb19 and now that TD018 has maneged to stop them like the ferrari was stoped in 2019
Shame you didnt give any comparisons on how was itwas to other cars or even from today's car.
I don’t think it was 8 back to back championships. Could you elaborate on that?
It's surprising Merc is still as Competitive as they currently are given how many key personal have been Poached from Mercedes by other Teams over the last few years...
James Vowles being a HUGE loss
It's nice to see that money dominantion is over and it's driver dominantion.
Driver domination😂. Yeah one thing f1 will always be is about CAR domination.
@@khalidmartie5854 no one denied that. however, the gems shine with mediocre cars then end up in top teams, unlike the african which had the road paved only through top teams, and keeps moaning about how unfair the motorsport is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@khalidmartie5854 now it's more sort of creative domination rather than money domination 🧏♀
Verstappen got more out of the Rb19 than Hammilton from the W11.
Even if this woud be true the W11 is still faster.
3 years ago!
Lewis and that car is like Senna and his McLaren Honda or Lewis and his McLaren Mercedes 🤙🏼
Anyone could've driven that car to pole, case in point: Russell's Mercedes debut.
I'd like to see them try that in a Redbull!
@@nonegone7170 Like anyone can drive Maxes car to pole now . Right or wrong because we have to make max special and Lewis not having anything to do with helping to get the car on point?
I keep on saying W11 was a beast of a car a monster on a road the most perfect...
W11 marked the perfect end for the Mercedes dominance era
have you seen the RB19
This video reminded me just how much I hate barge boards.
W11 has a legal cheat code known as dual axis steering
Which was never used at race pace in a stent because it wasn’t design to do that.
The W11 is truely and Engineering Marvel and will go down in history as the fastest car in f1 cause I dont think any faster car will be never produced.
How? By getting an FIA official to give them secret info. And hiring brilliant engineers. If Max or Alonso had been at Merc, we'd have 10-time WDCs easily.
And by starting their hybrid engine development in 2007 for the 2014 season...
That's quite a leap, hell the Germans went from bi-planes to jetfighters in that amount of time during WW2.
The greatest F1 car in all time 💪💜️
Not more power but max power right out of the gate
I deserve more subs, glad i found you
2019-2021 (Especially 2020) F1 cars were the best looking cars in the history of the sport... Change my mind
Its just absurd.. seeing it flatout through pouhon and savelli
Wait, you said the the current red bull cant be compared because the W11 was consistently 1 second quicker than everyone else in the field. You do realize that this years red bull (i say "this years" because i forget what number RB it is) is consistently 1 or more seconds per lap faster as well right?
Man... he speeks only in terms of speed. If you put them on a race w11 wins because it is faster.
I was about to ask if yall forgot about the RB19, but I guess mercedes fans won't admit that the W11 was topped
the w11 was a lot faster than the rb19 it would get smoked on every track. Even the rb16 is faster than the rb19. We're talking pure performance, not relative performance to the rest of the field.
Even Mercedes themselves can’t get even remotely close to this machine.
while it certainly isn't the outright fastest formula one car in history, nor is it close, you have to admit the RB19 is probably the most complete car we've seen since the W11, and probably second only to the W11 in recent times. in the beginning of 2023 their only slight weakness was slow speed corners which they held a small deficit in to ferrari. by the summer break they were dominating every area of every track, whether it be low, medium, high speed corners, straights, direction changes, wet, you name it. only downside I can think of is, similar to the pre-W11 mercs, being too gentle on tires, which has lost them a few race starts and pole positions, the latter of which I could count on one hand. given completeness is what was discussed in this video I think the RB19 should get some credit. great analysis though!
The 2019 Ferrari super engine surprised Mercedes and they built a monster car to go to war with Ferrari. Sadly Ferrari never showed up.
You’ve got one of the very best F1 channels on CZcams, and I mean that sincerely. BUT. You mispronounced “Super Saiyan”.
Niki lauda was in merc then so that is the reason
They uneashed too much power at once. should have sandbagged so regs for 2021 wouldnt hurt em so badly
Mercedes asked for that kind of engine (in 2014), that's why they were faster and faster through the years. Second, FIA didn't make anything to slow them, to change some of the rules like previous times with other dominat cars. Mercedes turbo era is just power on the straights with looong and wide cars, no racing spirit (no braking later, no sliding in corners...nothing, just saving tires and straight power [who will press harder on the accelerator])
Redbull will lose their mind if Mercedes win a race in first half of 2024. They do not care about Ferrari winning as they can handle it easily. But Mercedes winning without any incident from RedBull is a scary thing for them.
Even in 2022 beginning, Rebull were losing to Ferrari but they were worried only about Mercedes making a comeback. This was clear from Horner's and Max's interviews.
I would really love to follow you, but c'mon, RR)))
Dad was the obvious rule break, but because it was Mercedes they didn't ban it at once, just waited for next season
w11 had the Hyper and Ultra soft compound tires and it really helped with it's traction
We still have those…they are just called soft, med on circuits that run c3/4/5
… we still have those compounds, they just go under a different name. idiot
1:54 editing at its peak💀
and now how can't they build a competitive car? 😭😭😭
They got the new era so wrong the zeropod concept. We'll have to wait for the 2024 season to see if Mercedes have actually learned anything.
Give adrian a free pass to do whatever he wants, bo cost cap, no rules, nothing. I'd die to see the results of that.