How Scarlet Monastery EVOLVED Over 10 Years
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Scarlet Monastery was revamped with Mists of Pandaria. But the four dungeons we know from Vanilla-Cataclysm were actually already a remake of a different version that can be found in the early game files. Today, we will take a look at how the Monastery has changed from this pre-vanilla version all the way up to the revamp. Enjoy!
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Intro: Mark Petrie - Holy War
Blizzard music (Scarlet Monastery/15 Guardians of Nordrassil)
Outro: Silent Partner - Yard Sale
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"And in a few months, I should be cancer free"
God dammit, that brings a tear to my eye.
cryz8210 :(
Yhea, that line hit super hard.. thinking that it seemed to go well up to this point.. May the Light have mercy with his humble servant.
same here, i get so sad each time i hear the music at the end of his videos..
Same here :/
Dont know this guy , but damn he did good videos. And i to get a tear in my eye thinking of how it all went in the end. May he rest in peace.
It's such a shame that things didn't work out for you, in the end. While you will never see this, your videos are an inspiration. The light abandons no one.
Good luck with your treatments man! Awesome videos! They are carrying my stream today
+KungenTV First
+KungenTV Oj oh
+KungenTV Hi Stream
+KungenTV Hi Stream and CZcams
+KungenTV I wish you the best mate :), we love your videos
We miss you
I don't know if anyone will see this, and I know you won't, but I pray you knew how we all loved you and will never forget you
Free, at last
It's 2023; the classic version of the Monastery is back with the Scarlet Key; and some of us know Hayven would of loved that.
Rest in peace, my man.
missing you buddy..r.i.p.
2023, still watching every now and then. Still amazing content imo. R.I.P Hayven, I hope you're in a better place now.
I have a lot of memories about the Vanilla dungeon, though not all positive ones, the nostalgia makes that my favourite version of the Scarlet Monastery
Glad to hear your treatment is going well. Keep fighting!
Cheers!
I love this video structure & quality. It really immerses you into the nostalgia & lore of the game. Your explanations + the in-game music + the camera panning through the dungeons are really great. I haven't seen anything like it or such attention to detail. Keep up what you do!!
Wait, you have cancer!? FeelsBadMan. Hope you get better soon! Great video as always.
+vFoxArts Yeah, I was diagnosed a few months back. I'm done with more than half of my treatment now, and everything is going as it should. Have been getting a lot of support from you guys, which has made it a lot easier to deal with!
+Hayven Games hope you're ok mate, take care of yourself, I love your videos man!
+Hayven Games From several sources from the internet i have seen alot of times that people use canabis oil so.. maybe it helps for you
+Hayven Games I hope you get better soon! :)
+Hayven Games Hey man, I just wanted to convey my most heartfelt best wishes and prayers to you as you go through this. Your videos have been a huge inspiration for me since you started. Exploring and picking apart various dungeons in WoW through all iterations has been a long standing hobby of mine.
I lost my sister just over a year ago to cancer, I know how hard that fight is for not just you, but your loved ones. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers, stay strong man, keep up the good fight.
Great video, the Scarlet Monastery has always been one of my favorite dungeons, as well as the most interesting. I had no idea that we even had access to the pre-alpha version, that's pretty insane. Thanks for taking the time and effort into making this!
I'm honestly a really sad panda they redid Scarlet Monastary.
On that note, did anyone ever notice that the Monastary's world model in the game looks nothing like the layout inside the dungeons?
(If that was mentioned in the video pls forgib, i haven't watched it yet)
I am not playing WoW anymore, but these videos are really entertaining to watch :)
Glad to see you back..hope things getting better for you.Excellent video..bringing back memories..
Wow I love the effort that went into this! The boss voices are a very nice touch!
Haha, boy, does this bring back memory! I still have the "Release then hounds!" trinket on my Blood Elf from back in the day. Good times, good times.
Such memories, more videos like this please
+Ian Thornburg its in the works!
There's nothing but memories now.
One thing I'm noticing: why was the lighting so much more beautiful in the scrapped version versus the four vanilla ones? It looked so much more colorful and atmospheric.
I loved Scarlet Monastery runs back in Vanilla. I have no problem with the newer version, but I loved getting a group together, running (no mounting until level 40) and swimming into Tirisfal Glades, and then skirting Forsaken patrols only to congregate on the road outside the monastery so that we could fight our way through elite Scarlet Crusaders until we reached the dungeon wing we wanted to run. As a mage, I preferred the Library and the Cathedral for the snazzy caster loot (Illusionary Staff and Whitemane's Chapeau).
+DrPluton I'll never forget how Horde 60's used to sit and wait for Alliance groups to run their butts off to get into the instance before they all got slaughtered. If you were on a PvP server and Alliance, you had to have all your $hit together as a group to rush through and if you got left behind you were Hordechow.
Niklas Theelder Yep. Many deaths even before the honor system was implemented. I enjoyed it though because we would try our hardest to get inside before getting spotted and swatted. Good times.
+DrPluton Remember dying from the outside mobs in vanilla? And then trying to run into one of the dungeons to escape them? And all the dungeon entrances would look the same inside the building (except the one with clickable double doors), so you'd wind up running into the wrong one? Or maybe that's just me, haha!
Love the video as always. Really interesting, tbh. Glad to hear that your treatment is going well, can only hope it keeps up. Good luck, Hayven!
Glad to hear about your health, good luck and take care.
2021-08-11. Your videos are still relevant. Thanks for all pal
Love the unique content and great quality of your videos. Keep it up and take care!
it's good to hear that you are doing very well with your treatment, nice vid as always :D
Great video, im between this one or the scholo for my favorite one. Also i think in vanilla you also needed the scarlet key for the cathedral door. And the saddest part for me from the revamp is that, aside the optional bosses, we lost 1 main boss... I realy miss Vishas... "I'll rip the secrets from your flesh" and "Secrets... naughty secrets!" also he dropped my very first fist weapon and a cool looking dagger. And finaly, i'd like to drive people's attention to the weather effects, shown in the vanilla portion, on the huntsmain cloister, i miss that. One of my favorite moments was to raid Zul'Gurub under a stormy rain, the immersion and ambience of the moment were priceless.
Glad to hear your help is improving. Amazing video like always.
Through out all the years I played WoW I always wanted a SM raid so badly. It is such a cool and good looking area.
I am glad to hear that your treatment is working!
My favs are still vanilla dungeons, long and sometimes give you a feeling like you are in a maze, great vid.
Great to hear you're doing better!
Loved the video, as always. Glad to hear that your treatment is going well, Hayven! Stay strong! :)
Riktigt bra video, du ger alltid den bästa möjliga atmosfären, med musikvalen och kameraplaceringar. Jag gillar dessutom hela konceptet du kör på, och varje video är intressant. Avslutningsvis vill jag visa mitt stöd för din kamp mot cancern, och jag hoppas allt slutar väl.
Your subs stand by your side!
+Victor Svensson Tack :) the support i've gotten from you guys has literally been one of the most spirit boosting things during this entire treatment!
HayvenGames uploads new video. FeelsGoodMan :)
I love your content man, especially these "history of ..." videos. Best of luck with your treatment Hayven!
I love your videos so much. Incredibly interesting, and this one gave me great feelings of nostalgia. My first WoW account ever was hacked back in Vanilla and I never got it back, but I was around lvl 40 at the time and my brother and I had been spending every waking moment in SM. Really great memories.
Just saw one of your videos linked on reddit, and I instantly subscribed. I love these type of videos.
I loved the vanilla Scarlet Monastery. Hearing Mograine's father was in the newly opened Naxx patch carrying the fabled Ashbringer gave me chills thanks to this place. Thanks for making this video. Its fantastic!
Man, your videos always make me miss wow. Hearing all that night elf music gave me some serious nostalgia, especially Darkshore. I started in Cataclysm, and that is hands down my absolute favorite leveling zone, ever. I would love to see more alpha/vanilla type comparisons of night elf zones! Keep up the good work Hayven!!
I miss that place so much. I accept that the story has to keep moving forward, but they really did a hatchet job on that whole part of the game lore. Excellent video!
yeah scarlet could've been so much more than just the small part it takes, especially considering they are controlled by one of the most powerfull demons on azeroth
huge thanks for making these videos, very well done and informative, getting quite nostalgic watching them
it'd be the early vanilla iteration for me, back when you actually had to CC mobs to progress ;) good luck with your treatments as well, take care
Best of luck in all you do! I personally love the vanilla version. The Cathedral is by far my favorite dungeon for Scarlet Monastery.
Another great video man ! I'm really enjoying these videos that take you back to the good old days, I love exploring new and old content, and my favourite wing of SM is the Graveyard. Small and simple, first introduction to Scarlet Monastery. Keep up the videos , greetings from Slovakia ! :)
Yay! You're back! I'm glad to see that you're well and advanced through your treatment!
Nice video though!
Alpha version looks best tbh... do love long instances with lots of bosses... dungeons are usually pathetic nowadays on length and boss quantity (New Sunken Temple and Scholomance)
I guess you never played classic WoW. Sure they seem cool, but getting a group together, willing to do everything was hard and A LOT of time was wasted just sitting in main cities and spamming random people you see if they are willing to do these dungeons ...
Not to mention that you got lost all the time.
Kurgath. Sure, that was a frustrating part. But he's not talking about the old system of group finding. He's talking about the dungeon design.
Caoimhe Gibson sry dude but legion has karazhan which takes more than an hour for ppl at the ilvl it's intended for, and Dungeons like arcway, halls of valor and blackrook hold takes 30 mins if you go for a difficulty suited for you. In my case at 905 ilvl 15+
I was so sad to see the Sunken Temple was now like a quarter of what it was before.. what happened to the old part? Why not leave it in with the riddle?
Loved this vid as well; wanted to comment that back in classic it wasn't common to leave dungeons in the middle like it is today; the equivalent today would be a bit like a tank leaving a scheduled guild raid without warning halfway through, haha. If you had wanted to do SM back in classic you would take time to get a group together and then you would all venture there: this meant that everyone in the group walked there. This is because if I recall SM was a lvl 32-40 place, and you only got your 60% ground mount at level 40 (hardly anyone had the 100% ground mount even after that (and I believe that was at lvl 60 anyway-- and it was very rare)-- and there was no flying at all). So you'd take time to form a group on your own, then every person in the group had to walk to SM (no summoning) - so it was an investment and a mutual adventure, no one would leave in the middle, especially if they had the key XD That said, I still have memories of a time I tanked it and stupidly used fear in the library, and then like a million mobs came to eat us because of that XD I also remember that this was before you had the option of rolling on loot, so if you picked something up then it was permanently yours-- and I had accidentally looted the one item our entire group came to do the dungeon to get for my friend-- I felt so shitty afterward, haha! (I sound like the worst tank ever right now, don't I? But those were more innocent times! XD )
RIP Hayven. The best youtuber to review dungeons that's changed over the years.
the old one obviously...we love you hayven....the light showers upon you
Just found out about your channel and immediately fell loved your work. Keep it up dude! And best wishes with your... stuff...
Amazing video as always man! Keep on fighting!
I'd forgotten how huge the Library and Armory were...so many nightmare overpulls...
And the secret room is still there, and you can still access it, and Fairbanks is still there. However, he is indeed dead for good :(
good luck to you and get well! great video again!
Really good videos bro! Armory was for sure my favorite
I wanted to make a build in minecraft based on some parts of scarlet monestary and I remembered your great coverage of it. Im all teared up watching this.. man you were so talented and life took you too soon man...fuck cancer.
You are awesome dude! Continue making the great content! :D
Hope you're doing a lot better, bud.
Love the vids!
Sad that he's not amongst us anymore. But thanks for these videos, really enjoy them quite a lot!.
Love these voice over videos!
I prefer the older version... So many memories! RIP Herod. Very nostalgic video, keep up the good work!
Excellent video! I like the videos with you talking in them.
May you read these comments from the peaceful forest of elwynn, or the tranquil plains of mulgore.
Goodbye Hayven, we will miss you.
My favorite was the vanilla version of The Armory. Anyone who has only played the revamp version has no idea how hard it was to get through those three armories of trash only to get fucked repeatedly by Herod's whirlwind. The only downside was that all the mobs were 4-8 levels higher than you at the level you could enter the instance.
One thing that freaked me out: I was playing the dungeon on my hunter just going through and i saw on the minimap that fairbanks was still inside the room.
I've been waiting for this video for so long. 0o0 I prefer the good old Vanilla version of this dungeon just like I prefer the old Death Mine.
Good to know you're doing well so far! And what a refreshing video to hear your voice :D I'm a late catababy so the only version I encountered was the MoP one.
You tend to pronounce the "Ch" sound in English like "Shh", not sure if you realise that, just thought you might like to know next time :D regardless your accent is really cute.
+Jackie Wu I will keep that in mind. I am aware of my very, very veeery swedish accent - still quite new to using the mic too, so still working on all those quirks :)
8:20 that's why you had seaforium charges, blacksmith metal keys, or rogue lockpicking.
I was devastated when SM got revamped... I wish we could go back and do it again. I do like that they contained the essence of each dungeon in it though, that's still a good feeling.
makes me want old wow;( entertaining and cozy video, liked it:0
i think the alpha version is my favorite, i wish they had made it that way because it seems like the stuff that was added in the retail vanilla just ended up adding winding hallways (lib/arm) to fill them in a bit so they didn't feel too short.
Who else still shudders when they hear “release the hounds!”?
Rest in the arms of the Earthmother Hayven.
I never got to run this dungeon before the cata/mists era but I can already tell that I like the vanilla version much more. Same with Scholomance. I think the first time I played wow was near the beginning of wrath (I was a total noob and had no idea what I was doing) and I really wanted to get herods shoulder from there but I always made new chars instead of focusing on my main and so I just wasn’t high enough level to do it.
I do remember having to make the journey to kalimdor as an alliance to do the wailing caverns. I miss that feeling of adventure and having to make friends to quest with. I had great times just questing through low level areas. Blizzard really needs to bring that back not only for the new vanilla, but for current as well.
My favourite dungeon by far for nostalgic and aesthetic reasons. Love the vanilla version because of the memories but also love the mop version for its new mechanics and twists added
The first version looks pretty cool as well. Would've loved to run that a couple times.
But I do sorta miss the good ol' Scarlet Monastery.
The original pre-vanilla instance looks amazing I want to do it as one big dungeon now with no undead running rampid but instead just crusaders :D
Still remember being shocked at how hard the monks hit in the library back in Vanilla. Armory was a pain (did the cannons also fire at you? cant remember) but worth doing as a warrior for Herod, as his axe (and mail shoulder) were very OP for the level.
I miss all the old dungeons! so much better than now. especially SM!
Just thinking about the old Scarlet Armoury makes my stomach turn... Revamps did a great job, except in that first clearing after the graveyard, where you start to approach the cathedral - there are an insane amount of mobs, and people would just pull everything and wipe 2-3 times every single trip through lol
Holy Crap this makes me feel so nostalgic. I remember 14 year old me going through the Monastary graveyard, killing that bastard who toured people and getting super hyped when we found the fallen champion! Such fond memories :D
this brings back so many memories!!!!
I remember that the quest-line for SM started in Desolace of all places
The way I used to run SM. Gather group, meet up, fight horde outside for 5 hours, repeat the next day.
8:15 I opened and closed those iron gates when I was turned into a zombie! Another piece that was oddly interactable!:)
I missed the old Scarlet monastery i remembered completing the dungeon with only 3 people , it was really hard but really fun.
you forgot the scourge invasion bosses. I remember killing a lich boss in the graveyard in patch 1.11
Love the videyahs heaven! (I know I spelled it wrong but your vids are godly
It's been months now, but I still can't believe he's gone... so unfair and cruel.
I prefer the vanilla version. The Unreleased version also looks really cool. Thanks for this amazing video! :)
this guy could be a good tour guide :D
vanilla definitely! and good luck hayven this is the first time ive heard of your cancer (im a new subscriber)
As always, a perfect quality video from my favorite wow youtuber!!
im glad you liked it ^^
you forgot about the secret boss, who now is dead^^ nice video hope you get well soon
I like both versions, the new one and the one before MoP. I prefer the new design though.
Have to say, I wish this one and Scholomance had only been graphically updated. The original versions were impeccably designed as far as voice acting goes and layout goes. I wouldn't even have minded updating the dungeon storyline. But a complete redesign wasn't necessary, even after wotlk
Gone but not forgotten RIP :(
While I have fond memories of the old version, I very much welcomed and loved the new one.
I simply love your videos
Voice acted video, great!
Thanks for putting these videos, very interesting to see the pre-launch monastery compared to vanilla and well newer, im kind of mixed, kind of like the newest version but feels lazy to me when re-do old dungeon to make it heroic _cough_ deadmines, scarlet monastery, etc.
Definetly prefer the original. I have so many memories of playing this game at launch, running SFK on my undead priest with guildies, and eventually hanging out in and around the SM hall with the locked doors, looking for groups. Lots of people actually did that, it wa very easy to find groups, especially cause I would just heal even tho I was shadow specced. I think I grinded from about 35-40 there, and still remembner how excited I was getting level 40, so I could get a mount. I don't actually remember if you needed a key for Herods room. As far as I remember it was unlocked, but maybe I had the key already and just didnt pay attention.
HEY!! Your missing Cannon Master Wiley! From the Armoury section in Vanilla. In the last hall there were 2 doors. One led to Herod...the other took you to a hallway and Wiley! I believe he dropped a set piece for Paladins.
I just came across & subscribed to your channel. I really enjoy your WoW videos of dungeon evolution. I am sorry to hear you are in treatment for cancer and wish you the best. I myself am a stage IV survivor since 2008, and I guarantee that WoW dopamine was one of the factors that helped me overcome. Also, you have a very nice accent - where is it from, if I may ask? Again- I hope all goes well for you, Best Wishes.
Hi and welcome to the channel! So inspiring to hear you have come so far battling such an advanced cancer. Thank you for sharing that, it gives me hope. Its a swedish accent you hear, glad you like it :)
+Hayven Games Yes it's a very nice accent - makes the videos even more interesting :) And I am not joking about the WoW dopamine either, although it sounds funny. I was advanced (metastasized throughout lymph nodes). Some people reduced their stress by meditating and such. Although I am older than the normal gamer, [being geek-ish], I found that WoW & similar dopamine inducing RPG games that I had always enjoyed playing, helped relax me and zoned me into a world that kept me from focusing on negative stress. Visualization and Dopamine have both been studied & linked to positive effects in fighting cancer-type-diseases. As a survivor who believed in that, I can only say I believe it worked helping in my successful remission. (That, and my sister surprised me with a new puppy while I was being diagnosed, just before my chemo. Therapy Pets work wonders, even if you already have a kids or a loving family, a pet can be magic.) The doctors did not expect me to survive, but here I am, my dog is going to be 10 next spring, and I am still alive playing WoW today, and enjoying your videos. So the best of luck to you, and good success with your treatments! I look forward to more good works from you.