The Story of Sally Whitemane (And the Scarlet Crusade) [Lore]
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- Sally Whitemane has been chosen to become a hero within Heroes of the Storm but what road has she walked within World of Warcraft? That's what we're going to be talking about today. I hope you’ll enjoy ^_^
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Thigh Inquisitor
Damnit, beat me to it.
man of culture
Thigh High Inquisitor
Inquisitor Thighmane
That's what the crusaders joking about when they are having a party.
Thiccmane or Thighmane are also acceptable.
Tightmane?
Thigh Inquisitor
You know how jack Harlow said the female reindeer from Rudolph and the female fish from shark tales had him bricked up as a kid? Well for me it was Sally thighmane that had me bricked up as a kid
sally thighmane figured out the best way to rally an army and inspire her troops. Heavy dark eye make-up, and a high one-piece bodysuit to emphasize... Everything, with a cut waist-robe covering only the middle (no idea what those things are called, but u see them all the time in games/fantasy costumes)
She is the Thigh Priestess
Whitemane best girl
'NO ONE EXPECTS THE SCARLET INQUISITION!' I'll admit, I erupted with laughter.
@ComocosonoEWL It's not a reference to the real spanish inquistion but rather to Monty Python's "The Spanish Inquisition", it's a series of short comedy sketches about inquisition priests trying to get people to admit to immoral things or catch them, and they shout that line "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!", it's a cult-classic. One of the devs must be a Monty Python fan, there are alot of Monthy Python references in World of Warcraft too.
@@snowleopardd "Since the real life Spanish Inquisition was the inspiration for the Scarlet Crusade in WoW it also fits very nicely." at no point hints to me that he understood the context, and I still wanted to explain for anyone else who might read this and not know anyways
@@josefnagy4075 He knows..
@@mrtoothless No idea why people keep saying that, are you personal friends with ComocosonoEWL? Had a chat with him? You guys are weird.
@@josefnagy4075 Hopefully you understood why poeple explained to know
Sally Whitemane, a.k.a. that chick with the sweet legs
Those thighs will surely make my champion to arise
Way ahead of you
She was obviously blessed by the light 😂
*throws up a high-five*
Lmao
Chronos legend
Uther: Damn it, Arthas! As my future king, I order you to order me to purge this city!
Arthas: I am not your king yet, man! Nor should you obey my command, even if I were!
Uther: Then you must consider this an act of treason...
Arthas: Treason!? Have I lost my mind Uther?
Uther: Haven't you?
Uther: Prince Arthas, by your right of succession, and the sovereignty of your crown, I hereby relieve myself and my paladins from service!
Jaina: Uther, you can't just...
Uther: It's done!
Brilliant
Why did I enjoy this?
Beautiful
Well done!
I love!
High Inquisitor Thighmane
Fun fact:there seems to have been a time when the Scarlet Crusade was willing to accept members of the Alliance Of Lordaeron into their ranks.
In the Scarlet Halls, in the room of the second boss,you can find eleven statues dedicated to heroes of the Crusade. Only eight are human,there is also a dwarf and two high elves
or they simply could be where they are was at one point a base for the Silver Hand and they didnt bother doing much redecorating except changing the color scheme.
@@Shiirow Nope.The plaques under each statue clearly states that they were members of the Crusade.Arellas Fireleaf, High Wizard of the Scarlet Crusade,Fellaris Swiftarrow, Ranger captain of the Scarlet Crusade and Dorgar Stonebridge,Lord of the Red Caverns.
@@306Bloodline fixed.thanks for noticing,I wrote this around three a.m
It's also possible Bloodmage Thalnos was a blood elf in life. If that is true, a likely explanation is he was an ambassador sent by Lor'themar in an attempt to form an alliance against the Scourge. But as the Scarlet Crusades' paranoia and racism grew, they betrayed and murdered him, after which he rose as a skeletal mage and began haunting the graveyard.
@@stormstrider1990 An interesting thought,sadly we can only speculate.
"Me, a knight of the Ebon Blade? Preposterous! Do I look like I would be caught dead wearing black?"
*obligatory thigh and champion rising joke*
O göte bülbül öte
*obligatory thigh and champion rising answer*
I like how she keeps her title, High Inquistor, after she joins with the Death Knights. She really made her mark on history.
Why is it that every time the culling of Stratholme is in a lore video I have to immediately go watch the Culling of Arthas.
How can you even consider Arthas??
I'm sorry Arthas, I can't watch you do Arthas..
Have you lost your Arthas, Arthas?
Have I? Lord Arthas, by my right of succession and sovereignty of my Arthas, I hereby relieve Arthas from your command and suspend your Arthas's from service.
This entire comment section must be *purged*
"Without monsters there can be no heroes."
Shit that's good
Yeah... not only that, but Darion's voice during that scene it was deep, it was clear that he was against that plan but had to play his part "for the greater good"
(;
Sounds like something you'd hear in One Punch Man so idk
@@vhaleryanadamant1975 LOL What? No it doesn't. NOTHING about it sounds like something "yOu'D heAr iN oNE PunCH mAN" AT ALL here in ANY way. There is no "so idk" as that's a GREAT line because it's true. A hero can ONLY exist due to conflict and issues and the embodiment of the conflict are usually villains.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Take it easy with that soy
That Culling of Stratholme moment is such a critical one in WoW lore. What other options did Arthas have? What if Uther and Jaina, instead of abandoning him, had stayed to assist, and to temper his judgments a bit. Would there even have been a Lich King? Would Sylvanas have become a soccer Mom? Alas, we will never know.
I agree. And imto it was also well written: Arthas did a horrible thing, but he had good intentions. Arthas' fall into darkness was done well: he didn't became evil due to ambitions, but for his desperation and obsession to do the right things.
+MrMike11233 It's easier to justify something in hindsight, he slaughtered a whole city of completely innocent people on the _theory_ that they would all turn. They did not know so at the time, not for sure. And even if they did, there was no way of knowing who had actually eaten and who had not. So realistically speaking, Arthas definitely also slaughtered people who were not infected at all that night. *The moral of the story is that summed up in this quote from Nietzsche: **_“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”_*
+Salty Admiral I hear what you are saying; fair points. But imagine now that *you* are Prince Arthas, and you've just come upon this situation. What do you do? What options did he really have? The loss of life is tragic to be sure, but, left unchecked, all of the Eastern Kingdoms would have been at risk.
Arthas could have put everyone under house arrest, and have his army watch over them, prepared to kill them if they turned. After a certain period of time, everyone infected would have turned, and they'd know the remainder were clean.
I agree. What gets me, though, is that the entire city of Stratholme became undead anyway. Arthas thought he was saving the people from turning, but one way or another, they were going to end up undead anyway. That is what gets me.
"Rise my Champion."
*Boooiiinnngggg*
18:10 And there is absolutely no mention of this in the Paladin campaign. Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
they do when you unlock the secret ashbringer skin problem is all the hoops you have to jump to do it legit.
Warrior of Virtue when you do the corrupted ashbringer event there is.
lore has ben fucked up when Bliz decided gameplay > lore, story & characters
And they can't even get the gameplay right.
We are sneaky little death knight, also sorry for breaking into your chapel, Lich King made me do it
The name "Sally" just makes her so less intimidating.
But the thighs, though.
High inquisitor Shaggy
@@zerefsunlimitedshipworks indeed dem thighs doe
You have incredible talent to upload right when I want to go sleep !
i mean he doesn't live in the states so it makes sense.
Darkrocmon that was 3 hours ago :/
Girlfriend: "Babe come over!"
Me: "I cant im purging stratholme"
Girlfriend: "Im home alone"
Me: 2:37
aah, Kel'thuzad's voice in WC3 always gives me shivers, I love it!
*"Hello Again children! I am kel thuzad"*
I really hope they do more with the 4 horsemen than let them rot and be something cool for 5 minutes in legion
I had major problerms with the order halls, one the DK one, So King trollbane, a human , warrior king who slain countless orcs and blames them for a lot of the damages done to his kngdom his absolutely fine with riding beside a Orc. Also with the paladin order hall, Eaverything about it screams alliance, all the statues in it were of alliances heroes, tirion was the only neutral one, and the Name, The silver hand was created to ifght the horde, now it has the horde in it, im kinda pissed that none of the paladins there took notice of fucking taurens being alllowed in they dont even worship the same thing, tauren paladins are not paladins but sunwalkers they worship the sun one of the eyes of an`she
I do love the Monty Python reference
May you please elaborate what the reference is?
"No one ever suspects the Spanish Inquisition!"
T Prime oh gotcha, thanks!
How does she even know how to wield a sword, she only used a staff for her entire life.
there's always places to train in hall
I would also more expect her to wielding spears.^^
nice tanya avatar mate
It's a magical staff. With magical abilities. Ofc she knows how to use it the right way, it's in her blood.
Well if you ask the Star Wars fan base it's because she's a Mary Sue.
Watching this while I wait in a 20,000-player, 1000+ minute queue to log into WoW Classic's Whitemane server.
PREACH
Am i the only one that was a little bit dissapointed that there was no mention of Scarlet Crusade during or after the Battle for Undercity in BFA?
I was disappointed too same with my guild
Hmm, one of their main goal was to get rid of the Undead in Lordaeron, would be nice to see how they react, but pretty sure Stratholme still remains...
Well there are no SC anymore the Ebon Blade killed the last of them.
Not at all. It was a perfect opportunity for the Crusade to make an appearance. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and all that. But I'll admit its a minor thing.
Well there are now "tamed" Scarlet Crusaders in Dalaran and a friendly one in Netherlight Temple
Sally is a lot younger than I thought, lorewise, she would probably be in her mid to late 20's.
As a Paladin I always feel hatred whenever I saw what the Ebon Blade and the Lich King trying to do in the Chapel. Lich King may know what was he doing, but DK attacking the homebase of Palading when we have to fight against Legion is not something that I can tolerate.
Paladins escalated that into a fight though, not the Death Knights
Just give us the corpse bro
Whitemane will serve the world better as a death knight than she ever did as high inquisitor
6:40-6:50 Best line ever, "yes, we get it you're edgy. Can we move this along?"
Uther is the best
@@Dionyboz Uther is Grandpa?
@@uuamenator Heroes of the Storm
That shit was cringe
@Nobble87 could you do a video on the Cult of the Damned and it’s current state in the current time line? Maybe how they deal with the change in Leadership after Wrath. Never did see what happened to Mal’Ganis after Legion... potential?
Funny you should mention Mal'Ganis. Figure he might be talked about given he was just announced as a new character in Heroes of the Storm. So odds seem good for your request.
2 years later he returned in shadowlands
I love the way you say 'hello everyone' at the beginning. It's my favourite part of all your videos.
Always liked her for some reason. RISE, MY CHAMPION! So hyped she's back as a dk
“For some reason”…. I can think of a few
Thanks so much for this Nobbel! I have really fallen in love with her play style in Heroes, so much so that I used my 110 boost on a Disc Priest on WoW! It's nice to have some more of her backstory.
The Scarlet Crusade are my favourite thing about WoW and this is my fave video by you. Thank you!
The death Knight order hall quest chain was tied for the best wow has ever done imo.
The Warlock one was absolutely incredible too though.
I think Bolvar knew Tirion would never be raised and it was all a test for Darion, to see how far he would go and how far he could get.
+S. F. P.
This is in dispute, with no confirmation in either direction.
+S. F. P. If we believe Chronicle, then Ner'zhul is nothing but a whimpering presence in the back of the Lich Kings head, after Arthas mentally defeated him. We don't get any confirmation, what happens to him after Arthas was deafeated, but my guess is, that he either died with him, or has still not recovered. I think what actually corrupted Bolvar was the extensive use of necromantic powers to keep the scourge in check, aswell as the absence of the light.
Arthas killed Nerzul and became the dominant identity.
S. F. P. Nope, Arthas' mind was stronger and he "killed" Ner zhul. He was fully in charge.
I guess the same goes for Bolvar i, since the scourge is contained
@@chickenbacon5197
That's just biased, but yeah she is kind of evil. Heck everyone is evil in one way or another
This really are all the best stories of warcraft intertwined together. My favorite story. Very good explanation & vid thanks.
20:36 Let me take a moment to remind you of, "The light will protect me! The light- AHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHH!" and then he was dead.
That man was a Badass from Classic to Wrath, then in Legion he dipped
Arise my champion!
At your side milady!
1:09
Arthas “Are you responsible for this plague, necromancer?”
Kel’thuzad “I mean, I’m a necromancer so…yeah, I am.”
lmao
15:53 Trollbane: "Those who terrorize the innocent have no place in this world or the next."
So.. mass genocide of an entire race, burning down a whole world tree full of innocent & children count as "terrorize the innocent"? What about plaguebombing cities of the living and chemical experiments on their living bodies & torture?
*When is he going to take down Sylvanas then?*
How about we bomb *israel* for good? Agreed
The bombing part was back in Cataclysm. The experiments were also back then. The burning of Teldrassil was consider a strategic attack, the Nigh Elfs are the biggest threat. With them gone, Kalimdor will be the Hordes. And (Oh christ) The bombing of Theormore was a strategic plan made by Garrosh to finish the fight quicker, all the Alliance commanders were in the same place. One good bomb and they all fall, if he had continue attacking normally. More soldiers would lose their lives against Theormore.
Slyvanas did what she had to, but I have to say she's going to need to go a different path or shell become the second Arthas
When the Deathlord orders him to.
Wasn’t a Thigh man before but now I am. Thanks Blizzard.
I loved the Scarlet Monastery since the beginning and the Whitemane hat and the Herod Shoulder. It looks like there are changes again. I might have to go back again but I do miss the 4 halls before it got merged into 3. Good to know the lore.
Such a good video, it really makes me want to play my DK and do the chain myself.
Arthas is the Anakin Skywalker of WoW
Too bad he doesn't have a Luke
No he isn’t. The whole point of Anakin is he can be redeemed and that redemption fulfills his purpose. Anakin is irredeemable as they go to extreme lengths to make know in Wrath.
Arguably, no.
Thanks Nobbel! :D Such a good vid.
YESSS I requested a scarlet crusade video ages ago! Love you nobbel xoxo
Nobble youre the best! I love watching your lore videos at work haha
15:46 Badass Nazgrim
Nobel HotS announcer when?
Thighmane is already an announcer in HotS.
He means Nobbel himself as an announcer ya dingus.
It may be a thing that's present in most of your videos, but I appreciate the fact that all those mobs and enemies just get onshot by a presumably hilariously overpowered character. Noice
I feel that her Heroes of the Storm design makes her look more like Franziska von Karma than she used to.
I hope the Scarlet Crusade comes back as an allied faction. Maybe for the future scourge expansion.
Honestly, first time i subscribed because of the youtuber's awesome voice! (and also for being a wow lore noob)
We love you man, keep up the good work
Knowing what we do about the light from legion I wonder how people would have reacted knowing how twisted the light was and the innocent purged while yelling for the light"
horrorkesh remember they were fanatic cultists so it probably wouldn’t make a difference
Cathedral was my favorite instance when my 12 yr old butt was playing classic. Kinda sad how I'm 26 and just now learning wtf was going on. Thanks for the nostalgia trip and the knowledge Nobbel
Great video as always! 👍
Love your vids so much xD
Here's a vid I'd love to see. I was a child when the first warcraft games released but I watched a youtube of every cutscene/dialouge of all three warcraft games (and expansions). However I found the first two difficult to follow. Have you though about doing a video of just the events in those first two games, specificaly from the knowledge that a player would habe at the time? Just a thought. =)
awesome video nobble and gotta say still shocked they turned yrel and the dreanei of alt. dreanor into basically the scarlet crusade 2.0
After 10+years of not playing wow I still find myself looking back and thinking about how hot whitemane was. Wish her deathknight version had a unique model that lived up to her scarlet crusade greatness.
no one expects the THIGH INQUISITION!
Interesting, i had no idea that Whitemane actually took a chance at redemption.
Great to unwind with my man Nobbel after that ufc 229 drama
lol as a non ufc fan i saw that go down on twitter and was like whaaaa
Sometimes UFC is too much like pro wrestling
"Glad you could bake it, Uther."
The Four Horseman raiding Light's Hope Chapel...
Argent Crusade/Silver Hand: "Ah shit, here we go again...."
Man, original Scarlet Monastery is the top reason I want to play Classic. Also, I really want a Scarlet Crusade Tabard, I'd wear that all the time.
Darion is such a beast he deserves to be a hero in hots. And i feel if there ever must be another lich king he is the only one who can hold such a honor and curse.
11:08 "of course the healer goes first." He says as we see her die second
Glad you could bake it, Uther
Great video! I was wondering if maybe you can do a recap on the lich king. Do the people of azeroth know hes alive? And if so, what do they think of the situation? And if the people dont know then why dont he reveal himself? And what about the ebon blade? Do they know hes alive? Your last video about the lich king was a while ago, i dont need to see the whole story just more of an update. Keep up the good work!
how comes darion sounded normal when saying 'without monsters, there can be no heroes'
It just hit me with this video. The new Lich King just picked off where the old one stopped. Sending the Death Knights into the Chapel ONCE AGAIN treading on holy ground. This is EXACTLY what happened when we turned away from Arthas in WOTLK. Why is Darion fine with Bolvar doing this to him?
Cause the apocalypse happened
Plus they weren't there to obviously kill people.
I mean... THey said they are going to get the most holy man from that church, obviously they will fight back, and obviously they will kill them.
And what Apocalypse do you mean, Kasim?
@@klonvomhaus they did fight back, doesn't mean they got killed. To what was given, the Ebon Blade was the only ones at risk. And Dorian was the only one who actually died. Evident since they used simple ghouls rather than just killing everyone, and only beat Liandra til she can't fight anymore
I disagree with the not killing thing. Not only did they disturb the slumber of righteous light soldiers in the chapelle, they also killed all the unnamed soldiers they faced. I am sure the named ones were spared because of their connection to the light. They COULD NOT beat them to death, and they weren't there to do that. So they did not try a futile effort in their time-bound quest to get Fordring. Still looks pretty Arthas to me. But you convinced me in so far that they weren't there to conquer and kill everyone and to "test the ground".
I never noticed this before but… the scale of those bosses vs your character…
Think you do the Kirin tor? And the argent dawn.
God damn whitemane was hot and crazy.
The scarlet crusade is basically the wow equivalent of the KKK. I think.
Never knew sally got raised as an undead(being something you hate is always an interesting thing for me). And it makes sense that she points her hate to the legion since they are the ones that created the undead scourge in the first place.
Great video nobble, keep it up!
I'd say the Scarlet Crusade is more like the Sedevacantists, a group of Catholics who claim to be traditional, but instead reject the Papacy and pretend anyone who doesn't reject the Papacy is a heretic while also ironically calling Protestants and Orthodox heretics as well. Basically, to a Sedevacantist, everyone is a heretic, including the Pope.
actually, more like the Knights Templar is a better comparison. Blacks back then did not destroy America, the KKK was created by the Democrat party to regain power via terror.(source: Prager university). but that is another topic, your assessment is fair and similar! the Scarlet Crusade became extremely prejudicial towards all races and I think it's roots started back in Warcraft 3.(Blood elf campaign). war and Death on a massive scale can easily create hatred, thus if the Scarlet Crusade had focused more on the Lich King and not on the "Purity of race" then they would have been a mighty enemy against the forces of evil and death!
Winthrop Augustine you mean that guy that had a hatred towards the blood elves(forget his name)?
@@winthropaugustine8125 Templars did nothing wrong.
@@greyworld6242 Lord Garithos did nothing wrong.
*THICC THIGHS VULT*
DISTurbedwaffle918 and hips
I've just been running Cavern's of Time - The Culling of Stratholme and seriously impressed on how the old WC3 inter-action at the start translated so well.
It also showcased how much Arthas forgot he was a Prince, not some biker-gang wanna-be-leader, and how much of his hotheadedness was because he wanted to show off to his chick, Jaina. Am I reading to much into it ? Nah.
when escaping the light mojodishu saying Dis bad mojo was right on point
Awesome....loved the vid...ty....and it was really fun raising ppl for the horsemen
Watching this reminded me, the revamped voice of the lich king. I'm still pissed that they will remove one of the best voices ever.
It was me DIO wait they did when
18:25 ah that quest brings back nostalgia from starting a death knight.
Damn it, Arthas! As your future Arthas I order you to purge this Arthas!!!
Imagine how a kid would feel being named by a car
I remember getting Whitemane's Chapeau on my first run when I was playing my first character, a priest. so happy
the death knight Campaign is one of the coolest ones imo.
Renault was clapping those cheeks.
Darion Mograine just outsmarted the Paladin’s sanctuary
That foot soldier flying across the screen at 2:37 though lol.
i did not expect this
She's arise my 11-inch champion
Erdem K. I didn’t know Whitemane had an Enzyte buff
You are such a hero yourself Nobbel
Mr. Nobbel. Could you do the lore of all of the horsemen? In the spirit of Halloween :3
The reason why i always run scarlet monas.
Great Story!
OH MY.. how can someone remember all these details.. Loved though the part where Arthas wanted to purge Stratholme.. same positioning of characters, same conversation (not a word changed).. even the intonnation is the same.
"Dammit ufer"
-Arthas Menethil
*...as ur future King I ORDER U TO PURGE THIS CITY!!*
Arthas is now voiced by Mike Tyson
And not long before this video went public, Mal'Ganis is announced as a new Hero for HOTS. Wow. :O
one thing im surprised about is how slow the story is coming along for the present expansion were as in the legion there was tons of videos to watch as the story unfolded but now we haven't got past the start of the war and its been months since the expansion came out
My theory on the DK quest, we raise these former with the help of the lich king power, he sent us to light hope on purpose to either kill us or to kill Darion so that we will raise him using his power. I'm expecting that he has full control of the four since we raised them using his power. On the quest to get the mount the lich king clearly stated that if we fail he will take over the Ebon blade. At this point it is clear that there will be an expansion where the lich king finally plot his move, it seem that the helm is finally taking control of Bolvar.