GH5 + Atomos Ninja V Easy Setup // Quick Setup Guide for Your GH5 and Atomos Ninja V for 10bit 4K60
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2020
- Use this quick setup guide for your Lumix GH5 and Atomos Ninja V to record 10bit 4.2.2 4K60 in ProRes. The GH5 has an easy setup to record HDMI out to the Atomos Ninja V. I'll walk you through how I setup my GH5 and Atomos Ninja V to record some some cinematic 4K60 in 10bit 4.2.2.
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Great video! Nice setup! Ninja V is a whole new ball game with the Gh5!
It sure is!
Nice to-the-point rundown! Thanks 👍
Hi caleb thank for this new vid! Thank for sharing your xp it make us always better :)
thanks for watching!
Great stuff as always Caleb!
thanks man!
Thanks Caleb I enjoy watching your tips
Thanks for watching!
Hi Caleb, thanks for this one. Additionally, I only can advise to use the customer settings when doing video work and save your settings. There are way too many parameters to regard and you may overlook or forget one and your video shootings can get useless pretty fast.
Especially the parameter "HDMI Rec Output" - "Info Display = OFF" should part of your preferred settings stored in the customer settings !!! ... as I learned the hard way today :-)
Thanks dude always appreciate your videos .
appreciate it!
Thank you so much for this informative tutorial!
Great vid full of info!
Glad it was helpful!
Glad I found your channel, very helpful 🙏
awesome! thanks for checking it out!
Overpriced Atomos HDMI Cable - is the understatement of the century!!! Talk about daylight robbery. That aside I love the Ninja V. Thanks for this excellent setup guide.
Hey Caleb, thanks for the video. Late to the party on this one, I didn't actually need it but I wanted it :)
They're $499 on B&H with the accessory kit atm. This video was really useful, thanks again and good luck !
Thanks man!
You bet!
Thx very helpful!
Glad it helped!
Lol finally the answer. I have been talking to the team at atomos and they are testing the 2x out with the gh5. From the way they talk we should have the 2x even in 4k60. Will post if I get updates.
sounds great! keep me posted!
Nice, thanks
No problem 👍
Great video! I’m thinking of getting one for my gh5.
i think it's worth it!
Writing as of Nov 2020, and despite being allured towards the a7s3, I just can't justify switching due to the high cost of the sony body and an all-new very expensive lens system as a non-pro. So I got myself an Atomos Ninja V, a full Tilta cage setup, and a handful of Meike MFT cine lens with wireless follow focus instead. Hope I don't regret it. Thanks for the helpful video.
sounds like a good setup! I think you'll be happy with that
Hi Caleb, hope you are doing great! Thanks for this video! I followed all the instructions, but my MOV files does not have sound. What am I missing? Thanks
Hi, great overview - just wondering what the bitrate is when shooting 4K 60P onto the Ninja V with the GH5? Thanks!
Hi Caleb, nice video. Can you do an updated one on Lumix S5IIX?
Caleb thanks for the great Video! My first time using Ninja with GH5. Newbie question: When I’m recording on Ninja V am I also recording to SD Card on GH5?. Can I record on Ninja V SSD w/o needing SD card in GH5?.
Thanks for the video Caleb, really appreciate. I can't seem to find any ProRes LT footage online from the GH5 with the ninja V, especially in VLOG. Would you mind sharing a sample file with us. Thanks!
great idea. i'll see what i can do at some point.
Thanks Caleb, great video! Did you ever use the natural photo style (as it is your favorite) in your GH5 while recording on the Ninja V? For example for indoor shooting without extra light? If so, what input settings do you use on your Ninja V?
i actually don't use natural on the ninja for some reason i feel like it's overly saturated. i actually like rec709 or v log while shooting on the ninja
Hey Caleb, thanks so much for this tutorial. I shot on the Ninja V for the first time and used your guide as a setup. I have a question, how are you conforming the 59.94 to play in slow motion? I'm having a hell of a time trying to get it to play smoothly in a 23.98 timeline. Shutting angle and settings are not the issue as I had everything set correctly. Thanks so much for your help! Will
are you in premiere? i interpret the footage as 23.98 and it's always smooth
As a fellow GH5 shooter, love your channel! Always great and informative videos!
About the Ninja V, can it de-squeeze anamorphic footage? I've got a Sirui 35mm anamorphic lens on the way and looking at monitor options.
Yes I have the 50mm already, and the 35mm on the way. Don’t use the anamorphic 4:3 menu option. Shoot in 16:19 and just pick the desqueeze option and it will do the 1.33x. Using 4:3 is for anamorphic lenses closer to 2x and won’t work with the Sirui lenses.
@@edrugmanmusic Cool! Thanks for the reply!
looks like ed has you covered here! thanks ed!
Hi Caleb, Thank you for a comprehensive tutorial. One question I don't see covered is about the 4K60p 10bit 422 data rate. Would you know if that codec is recorded on the Ninja V at 400Mbps, or at 150Mbps (as indicated on the GH5 Rec quality menu)? Data rate is important to me. Thank you.
I have the same question...
Can you use the custom dials to use various outputs with the ninja v? For instance can you setup C1 on the GH5 to output 6k 30p and C2 to output 4k 60? Thst way switching between various outputs is fast.
Should the system frequency be on NTSC? when I had it on Cinema I couldn't switch the HDMI rec output to 4k/60p bit mode. NTSC worked though. 🤔
Hi Caleb. Hope you can help me out. What I see on my ninja looks quite a bit different than what I see on my GH5 . Definitely not matching. Any suggestions? Wondering if firmware versions make a difference. Thanks
hi Caleb, have you tried anamorphic mode 4k50p 8 bit to ninja v prores ? do the quality same like 4k50p 16:9 ?
Hey Caleb! Thanks for this video. Have you had any issues with the Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB? I read online that it doesn't record (or has issues with) 422 10-bit 4K/60p. Much appreciated!
personally, i've not had any issue with it.
Any link to the cable you use to connect the Atomos Ninja to the GH5?
Thanks for making this video! So useful! I'm about to buy the Ninja 5 and I didn't want to buy their expensive HDMI cable. But today i just read (from a seller on Ebay) that if we want to record ProRes RAW, we need the latest expensive cable from Atomos. Is that true or can we record in that mode with a cheaper HDMI 2.0a?
i would highly recommend just getting the atomos one. i know it's expensive but i think you'll be happy you did. cuz i've run into issues with other cables
Caleb, hope all is well. Just did my first shoot with my Ninja V +, I had to abandoned using the Ninja and went straight with the GH5. I was getting a reddish tint with the Ninja V while the GH5 was clear. Not sure why, had none of the assisted focus software on. Any idea?
Hi Caleb, does the atomos record 120p in 10bit on the GH5?
Hi Caleb, just hooked my ninja v to my GH5 and when I try ro toggle on the HDMI recording control, the feature is greyed our and states that "this menu item can't be set. I can record off the ninja and plugged the ssd up to my computer and verified that recording is taking place. I do not have the HDMI indicator on the GH5 screen also. Thanks and great tutorial!
Hey Celeb bit of a newbie question here, maybe it would make a good video if you haven't already covered it? But I've just bought the gh5 mk2 and I've been shooting 8bit atm, but can it handle 10bit out of the box or do I need the external monitor to handle more than 8bit?
thanks for reaching out! you should be able to do 10bit internal but it'll eat up card space and bog down the editor. if you're just making youtube videos or social media videos 8bit will be fine to use. if you're going for more broadcast or OTT stuff... you'll prolly want to shoot that 10bit.
@@CalebHoover yeah I've since been doing test shoots on all setting and there's only one version of 10bit it can handle and yes burned through the memory card in no time
yeah for youtube i use 8bit cuz i don’t want to have to mess with the file size and choppy workflow with proxies and all that jazz. 8bit is good for me for youtube.
@@CalebHoover can the memory card affect the quality of the video? When slot one was filled it switched to slot 2 and weirdly I noticed a slight drop in quality unless I knocked a setting buy I was sure it was correctly exposed ect....
yeah you’ll need a fast write speed memory card
Will my Macbook Pro Mid 2015 be able to handle the footage from a GH5S Atomos Ninja V set up? Or do I need to upgrade comp first? Been considering getting Ninja but may be no point if I wont be able to edit the footage on my older laptop.
After checking this out in Pr pro and viewing the properties on the clip - it is only showing as 4:2:0 10 bit at 4k 60 - have you run into this before?
I have a mistake and an issue of interest for you. I had the GH5 setup 4K60 in one of the custom settings that I was using a lot with the NinjaV and I had the GH5 setup for the clear HDMI output. One day I decided to shoot in another Custom setting. I shot a whole shoot with the the GH5 info recorded over my video. I was very sad! So was my customer. Another thing I ran into with the NinjaV was with the mic input. I could not get My Diety V-Mic D3 to work with it. My Rhode Video mic works fine. I had to plug the Diety into the GH5. I use the Diety because I can't remember to shut my mic off.
oh no! that would be sad!
Can you record the HD 180 on the ninja V, and does it look any better than on the GH5?
Hello I have a question I going to upgrade my gh4 to gh5, my gh4 stops recording any time if you monitor loose connection over HDMI or if the monitor go off with low battery etc, is the same with gh5? My DVX200 have a HDMI completely independent and if I recording I can disconnect and reconnect my monitor any time and my camera still recording
Hey Caleb, what are your opinions on the new S5?
i'm just confused what lumix is doing. seems like they're going all in on full frame
Hey man thanks for the video. Quick question, the “recording control” is greeted out on my gh5 when paired with the Ninja V. I’m also using an atomos hdmi cable. Do you know the problem??
Exact same problem. Did you find an answer?
@@WinstonWheelington Time Code, HDMI time code output = on
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Caleb, do you know if the HDMI info display can be used and not having everything baked in the final picture?
Only solution I've found to have the GH5's screen as "info display" and the Atomos as the monitor, but it's just frustrating to look at two different screens.
Knowing how external recorders work it seems impossible but still..
i've only done it with the info on for some tutorials and then off for regular recording. i've only seen it baked in to the image with all display on
@@CalebHoover Thank you for your response. In the meantime I've somewhat got used to the info being displayed on the GH5's screen and using the Ninja V for monitoring. :)
can we use the ninja v only for MONITOR DISPLAY ? so we still record on the GH5/GH5s
hi caleb, one question. can the gh5 recording in prores raw??? or only the gh5s.. thnks
ProRes RAW is only available with the GH5S.
Hello Caleb problem my HDMI Recording Control is Greyed out i cant access it any ideas cheers
Hey bruh how can I hook my lumix fz300 to the Atomos shonobi monitor when I record it show a black screen on my monitor
Hi, you said that you’re using the Samsung evo 860 ssd with the ninja how’s that working out for you. I just bought one for my ninja v that’s arriving tomorrow. I just checked the Atomos site for the drives they recommend and the evo 860 is not on the list I’m thinking of returning it and getting the WD 1tb. Your help will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!!
it has the 850 on the list and I've not had any trouble with the 860
hello good video!!!
How do you shoot in slow motion ( VFR ) with gh5?
the ninja v records in normal speed.... I have been looking for two weeks...
with the ninja you'll have 4k60 but not vfr. you can use the gh5 settings and just use the ninja as a monitor which works great. if you use 4k60 with the ninja, just interpret the footage in your editing software to 23.98 or 24 or 25 if your somewhere other than the u.s. 😂
@@CalebHoover ok thank you so much for your answer 😁
so you can record audio at 4k 60 woth the atamos?
I cant use trigger when im at FHD 10 Biy 60 FPS. Do tou know why? It works on all orher settings!
Hello, thx for your content, very helpfull. about the Ninja, is the framerate of the GH5 has to match the ninja frame rate ? the GH5 hdmi out is set 60p but if i just want record 24p on ninja do i have to switch to 24 on the gh5 too ? and 60p on the gh5 when i want record 60p on the ninja ? or the ninja just monitoring a fixed 60p signal from the GH5 hdmi output and i can record whatever framerate on the Ninja ?
nevermind just got the answer from an other channel (sorry), actually the ninja record whatever framerate i send to him (up to 60p), then its from the GH5 that i have to choose which framerate. just have to be 4k 422, even 8 bits since the GH5 will not internal record and sent the 10bits to the hdmi output
glad you found the answer!
@@CalebHoover yes thank you anyway, love your content, and i found out that actually i can set the GH5 to the lowest setting, i mean 420 8bit, the most important part is 4k and the framerate, the hdmi will anyway output 422 10 bits. correct me if i'm wrong. have a nice shoot (and keep shooting:) )
I cant put the hdmi recording control on do you know what might be the reason it says the menu item cant be set
what type of hdmi cable do you have? sometimes if you don't have a high speed cable it won't allow you to output
@@CalebHoover yes i think thats the issue thanks
I was waiting to see a live latency feed from the camera to the monitor. Since you got the expensive HDMI cable, I wonder how much signal delay there is.
i've noticed a little bit of lag in the feed. especially on some of the longer interviews i've been doing recently.
@@CalebHoover ty for the clarification.
Hi Caleb. Just purchased a ninja V for my gh5. All good till I try to transfer the videos from SSD to my pc. I use Samsung 850 EVO PRO 500GB. My pc see the videos icons on SSD but when I trying to upload in, it doesn’t work. Same problem when I try to import directly into editing software, don’t work. All videos works only when I see them on ninja V.
So would I use the DNx codec if I'm editing on a PC? Or does prores work just as good? I'm totally new to all these codecs
I'm actually not sure on that cuz I've never edited on pc
@@CalebHoover no worries. I think I just found out! Plus your videos are super helpful! Subbed!
I shoot in 1080P , can i shoot and record externally with the Ninja 5 in 1080P ?
Hi Caleb, I have one question. Can Ninja V record in 8 bit? Or everything is in 10 bit?
yeah you should be able to. in the menu option on the gh5 there's an 8bit or 10bit option
Hey,
Have you tried recording HDR with this combination? I am still kind of confused which settings to use and how to edit it for best results. Furthermore it is possible to use HLG or V-log (or both??) for shooting HDR.
What do you think, is it even worth shooting HDR with the GH5, is there a big benefit? Because atomos is advertising this a lot, but I can not find proper tutorials. I am thankful for any answer. 😊
i never shoot hlg but i've seen a few comments with people saying they really like it. i just don't like the workflow with it. 🤷♂️
@@CalebHoover hey, thanks for the reply. Yeah it is pretty hard to find tutorial about it. :-/
@@Norain1992 I use this for the basic workflow idea on which I based my Ninja V purchase decision as I love HLG: www.mysterybox.us/blog/2018/1/8/panasonic-gh5s-hdr10
Almost switched to A7S III but love Gh5 and GH5S too much...
Does the NINJA V comes with a cable in the box cappable to transmit 4K/60fps? Do I really need to buy another one? I'm confused.
it doesn't come with one but i would recommend just getting the atomos hdmi cable cuz that'll for sure work
Guys please can You help me? Do i need to buy V-log to gh5 or atomos ninja v will allow me to record video in v-log without buying it?
Hey mate, thanks for putting this video together. On my GH5, the HDMI Recording control @ 1:46 is blacked out, so I can't click on it to change it to ON. Do you know why this is?
Yeah exactly the same for me. Its greyed out so I can't access the option. Help please.
what type of hdmi cable are you using. i've heard that if it's not fast enough it won't give the option. 🤷♂️
@@CalebHoover Hey Caleb, thanks for getting back to me! I'm using the same one you use- the over priced 4K/60p HDMI cable from Atomos. If I'm not able to resolve this issue with the camera settings, I may have to return the cable and get a new one.
@@kalebarancelovic were you able to solve? what was the problem?
Hello everybody.
I have a question.
Is is possible to use the vfr feature on the gh5 when i recording on the Ninja V.
good question. i've only shot the 4K60 10bit never tried the vfr
I dont think its possible its only recording that live 24fps feed
Are you able to shoot 120fps in 4K at 10bit 422 with the Atomos Ninja V?
not right now but maybe in a future update which would be awesome. 4k 60 tho which is still pretty good
The Panasonic is bringing out the full frame s5. Is it the end of gh5 line in favor of full frame ?
i'm so confused by lumix. seems like they're going all in on full frame
@@CalebHoover agree.
YO! Quick tip for getting HDMI Recording Control un-grayed out. Go to Time Code (found below your Frame rates in the Motion Picture menu - camera icon) and at the bottom of Time Code menu is HDMI Time Code Output - turn that to ON. Credit: czcams.com/video/7cqOIq74Pnc/video.html
And make sure in the Ninja to turn the HDMI control to On. My Ninja V unchecked that when I did it and had to turn it back on.
thanks for the tip!
That you, that was super helpful!
Hello I use a gh5 camera with a ninja 5 external monitor and when I connect an hdmi cable the camera does not switch to power saving mode option by the time I chose Do you know an option to save battery because i use the cameras in diving housing and can’t open to change battery
that's a good questions. are you using it for events cuz you could just use the battery pack with the power cord so that it stays powered 🤷♂️
@@CalebHoover Hello friend thank you for quick reply I am using a camera with a dive housing I can not open to replace the battery during dive or connect to
external power
How can I do this with my g7 it connects but it starts to flash on and off
Anyone see "Not RAW Input" in the top left of the Atomos Ninja? Can't seem to find info on how to resolve that
When i go to select HDMI recording control to on, it simply sais " THIS ITEM MENU CANT BE SET "
can you go with a hdm 2.1?
just needs to be high speed.
If I want to record an mp4 or mov to ninja can I do it ? Can I record video from camera and audio from audio recorder to ninja ?
so far i've only done mov. i haven't seen the option to do mp4
Thanks .
What do you think on new s5 coming ? Does it mean we will not see the gh6? It seems like it does not make any sense to introduce additional camera if you sell full frame for about 2000
My ninja v footage always has way more noise compared to internal recording. Have you experienced this?
i haven't noticed a ton of noise. i haven't used it much in low light or anything like that tho. is that where you're getting it?
Caleb Hoover i’ve been getting it in the shadows even if my ISO is like 200 but I also have internal noise reduction turned down so maybe that’s affecting it
See here Rohan: czcams.com/video/ZRc0tOTBWuw/video.html
Overexposing by +1 stop or similar is a good practice for V-log L
Caleb, I feel like a complete idiot... but I'm ok with that... I used my Ninja V at a shoot last weekend... when i went to look at the footage, all my settings and scopes and everything appear in the playback on all my videos. Is this normal?? What am I doing wrong. Thanks for any help.
oh no! there should be a spot in the settings on the gh5 under hdmi recording that you can switch off info display. hopefully that helps!
@@CalebHoover Just found this yesterday...thank you so much (it was driving me crazy)!
@@ChipThompsonDesign sorry i couldnt respond to you sooner!
Prores Raw??? ))
i wish
Ninja Five, as in Ninja with 5" monitor.
😂
HDMI recording control is grayed out. Now what?
what hdmi cable are you using? might have something to do with it.
¿tiene sentido comprar un atomos ninja v, en abril de 2022, por un GH5…