Atomos Ninja Inferno and Panasonic GH5 Setup guide
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2017
- This is a setup guide for the Panasonic GH5 and the Atomos Ninja Inferno. Also applicable to the Shogun Inferno. Ninja Flame and Shogun Flame can also follow this guideline less some of the recording modes. This guide takes you through the intricacies of the menu set up, so you get the most out of your camera and recorder. This setup also outlines the benefits of this setup for shooting HDR. Go to www.atomos.com for more information.
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What Panasonic Cameras can do 4k 90 FPS with an Atomos device?
Please identify the device with the camera. thanks
Can I recorder 60fps at 4k with G85? The camera supports 4k 30P standalone only? Or LOG, 709?
how to get camera display and external display simultaneously in GH5 ?
good guide, thanks
Can the Ninja Inferno record and play back slow motion footage at 60p from the GH5, or does footage have to be slowed down in post?
Please see below notes for guidance on setting up 4k60p on GH5. Let me know if you are still having issues after following these steps
--> For the GH5 to have access to 60p video, the camera must be in NTSC (59.94 frequency) mode.
--> To get the GH5 to output a 10bit 4:2:2 4KUHD60p signal, you must do the following:
----- INTERNAL "Rec Quality" is set to 8Bit 4K 150M 60p. This setting can be found under the "Motion Picture Menu."
----- "HDMI Rec Output" is set to 10Bit 4:2:2. This setting can also be found under the "Motion Picture Menu."
If either of these settings is not correct, the camera will not output the best quality 10Bit 4:2:2 4kUHD at 60p over HDMI. This is noted at the bottom of page 68 in the GH5 manual.
Another important item needed is a high quality HDMI cable that is capable of handling the bandwidth of a 10Bit 4K60p signal. These cables are generally labeled "2.0a" (though not every 2.0a cable is made well enough to work properly).
--> 4Kp60 compatible HDMI Cables are available from Atomos at retail partners, under item numbers ATOM4K60C5, and ATOM4K60C6.
--> If the HDMI cable that is being used is not good enough, you will experience signal dropouts and breaks in your recording. An Intermittent connection between the camera and recorder when using a 4K60p output, is almost always caused by using a cable that can not handle the full signal bandwidth.
You can find a setup video for the GH5 and an Atomos recorder at the following link: @t (Setup begins at @)
Note: To keep all of the 10Bit data, you can record in the following codec formats:
Apple ProRes HQ
Apple ProRes 422
Apple ProRes LT
Avid DNxHR HQX (4k)
Avid DNxHD 220x (HD)
* (All other available Avid DNx Codecs are 8Bit, DNxHD 36 is a Proxy codec)
Hope this helps.
we will just buy an s1h lol too complex
Is there a Pentax Camera that can record to an Atomos device in 4k video? and slow motion? from PreRes RAW
To change frame rates between 60p 50p 30p 25p do you need to change the frequency on the camera or is this controlled by the Atomos?
I bought the Ninja Inferno for my GH5 six month ago. I'm thinking about to add a Nikon Z6 as a second camera. Will the Ninja Inferno support the N-Log of the Z6 with a new firmware upgrade to 10.x with N-Log support? You offer firmware updates for the Shogun Inferno 9.x with 5.7k support but the Ninja Inferno is still on 8.5! As a registered customer i'm a little bit disappointed of the Ninja Inferno firmware update strategy.
Do I attach tentacle sync to camera (gh5) or to ninja v?
Cool video, how do you set up the Ninja V record 240fps slow motion from a GH5s?
As the camera is not able to output over 60p via HDMI we aren't able to record that rate. Thanks.
If "no input" prints on the atomos, don't forget to set the hdmi input to 2.0 (menu/timecode/input/). It was set at 1.4, I spent the day to figure it out why it didn't work, even with the C6 atomos cable. Just in case it helps :)
@Julien - This was it for me! I can't believe no-one else is making this point. Atomos themselves really need to make this clear! Thanks a bunch.
Will pass on this feedback. Thank you
Just setting it up with my GH5. I recorded a couple test scenes on the 'Atomos Ninja', but when I select 'Play'. It says "No Media"/ busy (with some yellow Kangaroo sign). Am I missing something here?
Maybe une an other HDMI someone talked in thèse comments about a 2.0 one
I had problems with getting this to work for me but here’s what i did and i got it to work. Make sure you are using high speed hdmi cable, i got mines from amazon for $8.99. Then make sure the camera frequency is set to 59.94Hz and when you go to HDMI REC Output you should have the option
link for the cablre plz
I bought a second-hand AtomOS ninja inferno, I can’t update it because there is no access to the support site, I have version 8.5, but as I understand it, there is already 10.69, but how can I download it and or how can I get this file through someone and will it fit my AtomOS ninja inferno. please help me please!
How do we get GH5s to record VFR (variable frame rates) to the Ninja V like it records slow motion internally? Meaning shooting 4K60P, 1080p 240fps & having it record & play back in slow mo.
Hey Jamon, unfortunately not. 4Kp60 is the limit as the camera is not able to output higher (can record internally yet not send it to a recorder). Let us know if we can assist further. Thanks
What about high frame rate (like 180) in fhd? The ninja inferno can do 10 bit on HFR?
I had the same queston!
I was told that you cannot get the waveform monitor out to the Inferno. Is that correct, that there is no output? Also, can you shoot in V-log but display you LUT in the monitor?
Yes, you can load a LUT into the Atomos and either preview it or bake it into the recording.
Can I use The Ninja Inferno With the GH4? All this GH5 talk lately
Had this as a rental for the GH5s but didnt end up using it - the Atomos was recording the display info from the GH5s ( f stop, ISO etc ) burned into the image. When I turned the display off on the GH5s it went away but then I have no access to settings. Was I doing something wrong ? I should mention that I was also using the Ronin S and its remote focus control plugged into the camera.
Hey Mike, sounds like you need to go through the settings to find the option to send clean HDMI out to the recorder. Let us know if you're not able to find.
A question -- S, the major advantage I would get for using the Panasonic GH5 and Atomos monitor recorder is that I can now shoot 4K 60p in 10bit, which is high-detailed Slow Motion when reproduced in 23.97 fps?
That is correct. Plus, you can capture the video data with an Avid compression codec since Windows support for ProRes is gone (thanks so much, Apple!!).
Anyone had any issues with bad audio distortion when recording from the GH5 through HDMI to an Atomos Ninja Inferno?? The video is just fine - just the audio. The Inferno also records just fine (audio and video) when recording from a Panasonic DVX200 so the cable is OK (& I have also replicated the GH5 problem with a second cable). Recording internal audio into the GH5 is also fine - just the GH5 output into the Inferno seems distorted...any thoughts/suggestions??
Why are you running audio through your camera? You should run your audio directly into the Atomos. Filtering it through the GH5 is going to screw it up pretty badly.
I could set up everything in the gh5 which is shown in the video, also the ninja Inferno shows me then "4KUHDp59,94" but when I record a clip on the Inferno it has only 29,97fps. I have the original Atomos HDMI cable. Is there anyone with the same issue?
Hey Alexander, if you haven't already please get in touch with our support team via support.atomos.com/hc/en-us/requests/new to get to the bottom of this trouble. Thanks
so the output from vlog is proves....is it better outputting proves or just getting vlog straight from camera and converting to pro res in editing system
The output from the camera isn't ProRes so there would be an encoding process if you didn't record in ProRes using our recorders. Are you trying to record HDR footage or SDR footage? Thanks
How do you record audio with the inferno?
Plug in an XLR microphone and set the audio settings from within the control interface.
i am using the ninja assissin because i can not find anything for it, and i don't even have the option to click " HDMI recording control" to on. it is not highlighted. any suggestions ?
me too....
[HDMI Recording Control] can only be changed when [Movie settings] -> [Time Code] -> [HDMI Time Code Output] is set to [ON] in Creative Video Mode **first**, not the other way around as this video shows.
life saver
I love you for that
How do I turn on HDMI recording control? When I followed your settings up to that point, that option (as well as HLG View Assist and Sound Down Convert) are greyed out. Also, why does your menu say "LUT HDMI Display"? That option is definitely not anywhere in my v2.2 firmware GH5.
To answer my own question, [HDMI Recording Control] can only be changed when [Movie settings] -> [Time Code] -> [HDMI Time Code Output] is set to [ON] in Creative Video Mode **first**, not the other way around as this video shows.
THANK YOU!
@@jurrich Thank you. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why mine was grayed out. Your tip worked.
same for me I needed an HDMI 2.0 cable @18gps to be able to use 4k60 at 10bit with no problem. SOLVED
What is 18gps?
I think he means 18 gbps. Not 18 gps.
Jan Cardenas nonetheless, I have bought 2 different hdmi cables with that description and I’m still having a problem at 60p.
I can't seem to get the 4k/60p 10 bit to work. I've tried the settings shown in the video, but my only option is 4k/60p 8 bit, and the inferno gets no signal when I use that profile
taypuc31 happens the same to me, did you find out how to do it?
Same for me !!!!!!!
same for me! i use hdmi2.0. whats wrong?
happens to my Shogun Inferno as well. So frustating.
Problem solved. It was because I'm using a non premium HDMI certified 2.0 cables. Please use a premium HDMI certified 2.0 cable. Go Google for it.
My HDMI Recording Control is greyed out. Any ideas?
[HDMI Recording Control] can only be changed when [Movie settings] -> [Time Code] -> [HDMI Time Code Output] is set to [ON] in Creative Video Mode **first**, not the other way around as this video shows.
For me, HDMO RECORDING CONTROL is greyed out and LUT HDMO DSPLAY also preyed out.
Also, the media shows NO MEDIA while I have it inserted too.
[HDMI Recording Control] can only be changed when [Movie settings] -> [Time Code] -> [HDMI Time Code Output] is set to [ON] in Creative Video Mode **first**, not the other way around as this video shows - if you have media inserted, and it's on the list of known-to-work drives, tap the "--:--:--" in the upper right and tell it to format your SSD.
formatting a new ssd was exactly what i needed to fix this problem. thank you so much Jurrich.
Do you need V-Log on the GH5 to get the HDR?
did you not watch the video? yes it is required.
You can also capture HLG HDR within the last year or so if you have the latest Panasonic GH5 firmware. It has a little more dynamic range than V-Log L, a little less noisy, it's free, and the camera goes into Rec 2020 color mode.
Hello my HDMI recording control option is grayed out. I have the HDMI and everything plugged into my ninja V. How can I get the control?
Same thing. I can't get a reply from anyone!
@@kevinjack5184 I found a video that fixes this issue!
czcams.com/video/1FRaBCkfihs/video.html
@@dreamersdayproductions8564 Thanks, I found it too, or something similiar. I don't know why all these "gurus" can't reply with this simple step?!
Also, can we control everything from the recorder, or just the record on/off?
you cant change iso aperture, white balance and focus.
How do you setup Inferno to record 120fps?
same here
You can't with the GH5. The HDMI chipset on the GH5 does not allow for anything above 60 fps to be output from the HDMI port.
so the Ninja Inferno doesn't shoot DCI 4k60p 422 10 bit?
Nevermind. It does. :)
Is this for the gh5 or gh5s?
Video Bros. Both
Awesome! Thanks. It's just a little confusing that the menu nowhere says '4K 60p 10 bit' and you actually have to put the camera to 4K 8 bit 60p to get the 10bit working...if that makes sense haha :) Also: did you find a way to get the Record button on the GH5 to work as the actual record button for the recorder? It doesn't work with my Ninja V
Video Bros. Yes which is a godsend. PhotoJoseph actually just did a video about that. I know you have to turn on the HDMI record control on the camera then in your settings on the atomos, you turn the HDMI trigger on. I dont have my kit in front of me or i’d double check, but i know it’s something along those lines.
why sky look like in 8 bit?
Because CZcams compression.
For the people that can't playback a video via their hdmi monitor. To play, press "up" on the ring around the menu button, to pause press "up" again and to stop press "down". You can navigate through your video's by left and right on the same ring. Hope this helps anyone.
also make sure to update gh5 firmware to be able to record 10bit
Just be careful when your camera seems to be recording internally 10 bit. IT DOESNT WORK 10 bit internally your files will be corrupted, just the Inferno records 10bit with the correct cable hdmi 2.0.
anybody know if i can shoot hd 120fps with my gh5 in atomos ninja inferno?
You cannot. Both the GH5 and Ninja Inferno only go up to 60fps.
This is not what Atomos says on their website. It says Inferno should record whatever input it sees. 180fps should be doable. If not, this is disappointing.
Hi Tyler, Luke from Atomos here. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Just to clarify, the maximum frame rate the Ninja Inferno can record from a camera is 60fps because currently that is the maximum frame rate cameras output over HDMI. If we suggested otherwise on our website please let me know which page so I can investigate. Hope this helps.
Hi Klaus. Luke from Atomos here. I see that @jurrich has answered your question (sorry for not answering earlier), but to confirm the maximum frame rate the GH5 outputs over HDMI is 60fps. Let me if you have any more questions.
so it is UHD not DCI external.
Am I right?
You can record 4KDCI on the Inferno at 24fps. Thanks.
So it can't shoot DCI 4k @ 60fps is that because the capabilities of the camera or the recorder?
Both. The 10 bit 60p modes are only available through the HDMI out. The Atomos recorders can capture that signal and record it.
but, what settings on the gh5 to be able to record the 4k60p at 10 bits?
Jan Cardenas It's in the GH5 setup menu. This is an HDMI monitor output setting. If you choose the 10 bit 4:2:2 60p mode, you get a warning you cannot record internally.
HDMI record control is grayed out
You need to activate HDMI Timecode Output (From the manual: "[HDMI Recording Control] can only be set when [HDMI Time Code Output] (P169) is set to
[ON] in Creative Video Mode.")
For the life of me I cannot get 4K 60p 10 bit.. I've followed this video exactly and advice in the comments below.. I've spent £150 (just for a lead) on the correct Atomos cable and the dammed thing still doesn't work...
Why is it so difficult? Surely it should be as easy as ABC.. It's science and engineering not psychology.. You do A then B and then C and Bobs your uncle it works.. Why do we have to go online to get advice from other users?? Surely Panasonic/Atomos knows people are having problems? Give us some bloody help.. This is poorly thought out and bad customer service... Anyone would think we were dealing with Microsoft..
anybody figure it out, i think they lying
Hi Paul. Luke from Atomos here. Firstly, I just want to say that it has taken us way too long to get back to you on this. We messed up and I am really sorry that we left you without a response but you can be rest assured that we are doing all we can to ensure this sort of oversight doesn't happen again. I am hoping in the meantime you have worked things out. On the other hand, if you are still having issues or have any other questions please let me know so I can help and do my best to make it up to you.
hey I figure out why so many people are having problem with atoms 10bit and gh5,It nothing with the cord,It the camera setting,anybody that need help dm me on Instagram ill walk you threw @mafiolor
Why dont you just write it here?
@@brianwynn10
@@AtomosChannel Please answer the question. Im using the official cable from atomos and doing all the steps and there is no signal when its changed from 8bit to 10 bit. I can see the same problem all over the internet with no answer from you. Thanks
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100$ for activate the V-Log is ridiculuous Panasonic... I still recording in 709 with the Ninja Inferno.
You can afford the Inferno...yet complain of vlog cost? LMAO
An extra $100 on top of the $4000+ for the camera, + a decent lens, + Inferno, + even a tiny SSD is literally a trivial expense. If you don't need it, hey, you saved yourself $100. Go you. But if you want 4k, 4:2:2 10 bit 60fps footage, you already factored that $100 into your purchase when you got the GH5.
This video solved it: czcams.com/video/1FRaBCkfihs/video.html
spent 500 on cable this dont work,They lying
update gh5 firmware
You need to be a physics major to use this new camera! Sh@t!!! :-(